From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #413 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Friday, August 3 2001 Volume 01 : Number 413 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:58:30 -0700 (PDT) From: William Morris Subject: [AML] Re: Editing Literature (was: Sex in Literature) - --- Craig Huls wrote: > Thom Duncan wrote: > > > > > > > Serious considerations. Suppose you do get the > book published, and it makes a > > move sale. You, as a new writer, would have NO > rights over the final film > > version. > > > > Thom > > > > Thom.... > Maybe I am really naive. I certainly have no > experience to speak to, but is there > any reason the writer can't have an attorney when > negotiating the contract with > specific clauses indicating damages if the movie > takes a twist outside the > contract? It would seem in this litigious society > we live in today the writer ought > to have something to say about it. > > Craig Huls > Uh. Anybody know why the _Ender's Game_ movie hasn't been made yet? ;) Thom will probably have more trenchant and relevant examples, but let's use the recent suit by freelance writers against newspapers that package and sell their content in online archives and/or cd databases. The newspapers lost the case, meaning the court decided that they should pay freelancers for the re-use of the content. The New York Times responded by removing all the articles from their databases and then tried to convince the freelancers to 'donate' the articles back to the NY Times so that they would be available to our posterity. By the way, the court decision is not relevant for freelance content accepted over the past 5 or 6 years because now newspapers require freelancers to sign over all digital rights before they will publish your piece. In the Mormon publishing world it's even worse (or at least that's what I've heard). The major publishers won't even deal with literary agents, let alone lawyers. ~~William Morris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:13:56 -0500 From: Craig Huls Subject: Re: [AML] Writing About "Good" Mormons REWIGHT wrote: > > > > Since we've beaten up on poor Jack Weyland recently, I might as well > > beat a little more on him, and not bloody another author. (Remember, I'm > > talking about a Jack from twenty years ago. I haven't read much of him > > recently. Maybe he's better now.) In the world of Jack Weyland, the > > Mormon boy meets a non-Mormon girl, and literally days later, she's > > taking the discussions from the missionaries. Of course she ends up > > baptized. This just doesn't happen in real life. > > It happens all the time. > > I was baptised three weeks after my first initial contact with the > missionaries. I never drank, smoked, and at the time, I was a 17 year old > virgin. > > Does that make me unbelievable? > > Anna Only if you lived in my home town! :-) actually Anna, I am on your side on that one. I named off 5 young ladies I know of who had similar whirlwind conversions and several young men, including my current Bishop who was not LDS. He was raised in Idaho, met his wife in California, she said we can't get married till you get baptised, so he was baptised Saturday, they got married the next week and have four kids, 3 married in the temple, boy served a mission, and the fourth daughter who is still single, was instrumental in the conversion of another lad whom she later dumped. But when it came time for his baptism all her family and most of our ward were there. She talked to him long and hard before that she did not want him leaving the Catholic Church to be baptized if it was for her. He assured her she may have introduced him to the Church, but he was joining for his own reasons. They had had an amicable parting, courtship wise, prior to his baptism. He is going to make a great missionary. Maybe when he gets back she will renew the acquaintance. It mattereth not of course. "Real Life is Stranger than Fiction." I don't know who said it, but I believe it! Craig H. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:47:59 -0500 From: "REWIGHT" Subject: Re: [AML] Morality and Art Does that include pornography? Certainly it does. I don't know much about child pornography, but I know that it can lead to the most horrendous crimes against children, and I know that there are people who become experts in it in order to catch those criminals Except in the case of child pornography, horrendous acts have already been commited to create it. It doesn't just possible lead someone to do something. It's already been done. Anna - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 20:09:30 -0500 From: Ronn Blankenship Subject: [AML] Re: Editing Literature (was: Sex in Literature) At 09:45 PM 7/31/01, you wrote: >Thom Duncan wrote: > > > > > > > Serious considerations. Suppose you do get the book published, and it > makes a > > move sale. You, as a new writer, would have NO rights over the final film > > version. > > > > Thom > > > >Thom.... >Maybe I am really naive. I certainly have no experience to speak to, but >is there >any reason the writer can't have an attorney when negotiating the contract >with >specific clauses indicating damages if the movie takes a twist outside the >contract? It would seem in this litigious society we live in today the >writer ought >to have something to say about it. > >Craig Huls The question is whether anyone would want to buy the movie rights to your novel enough to sign a contract with a provision like that in it. Particularly if this is your first novel and no one has ever heard of you. Perhaps if your first novel $-$-$old a million copies the first week in print . . . ;-) - --Ronn! :) - --------------------------------------------------------- I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle - --------------------------------------------------------- - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:36:27 -0500 From: "REWIGHT" Subject: Re: [AML] Artists vs. Illustrators > But, to me, it's static. It's not just a snapshot of something > happening in time. It has no past or future. Is Christ sitting because > he's tired? Can't tell. He's too clean to have been walking the > streets of Jerusalem all day. What does his expression tell us about > what he thinks about Jerusalem? To me, it tells me nothing. Christ's > face is expressionless. He could just as easily be looking at a tree, > or a rock. Christ isn't sitting as real people sit, he's posing. But that's just your interpretation and what you see (or don't see). What is Christ thinking of? Is it up to the artist to tell us, or is it up to the us to decide for ourselves? Do we really want artists to spell out everything for us? I like art that suggests a story, and for me, Olsen's art does. (by the way there is symbolism in Olsen's work that you may have missed). By your description you would claim that the Mona Lisa isn't art either. It's just a picture of a woman with a smile. What is she thinking? No one knows. So try telling the rest of the art world that the Mona Lisa isn't a work of art. There's a lot of stuff out there labeled art that looks like something my two year old could do. Anna > > None of this means, however, that a person who expects less out of our > community's artists can't be moved by such paintings. But then we're > talking about matters of taste, and not the nature of art. > > -- > Thom Duncan > Playwrights Circle > an organization of professionals > > > > > - > AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature > http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:46:30 -0500 From: Ronn Blankenship Subject: Re: [AML] Writing About "Good" Mormons At 03:25 PM 7/31/01, Anna Wight wrote: > > > > Since we've beaten up on poor Jack Weyland recently, I might as well > > beat a little more on him, and not bloody another author. (Remember, I'm > > talking about a Jack from twenty years ago. I haven't read much of him > > recently. Maybe he's better now.) In the world of Jack Weyland, the > > Mormon boy meets a non-Mormon girl, and literally days later, she's > > taking the discussions from the missionaries. Of course she ends up > > baptized. This just doesn't happen in real life. > > >It happens all the time. > >I was baptised three weeks after my first initial contact with the >missionaries. I never drank, smoked, and at the time, I was a 17 year old >virgin. > >Does that make me unbelievable? > >Anna I dunno. How about this: 8 June 1977: After reading the Bible as I'd done every night for a number (8 +/- ?) of years at that time, I knelt beside my bed to pray as usual. While I was doing so, I suddenly had a certain knowledge that the LDS Church was true. I was not praying about the truth of the LDS Church then or before, had not been "investigating" the LDS Church, had never read any of the Book of Mormon (If anyone had asked at the time, I'd have guessed that it was some kind of Church manual listing the basic beliefs, etc.) or any other LDS Church publications, had no particular reason up until then to think the LDS Church was anything but another denomination, and was not particularly interested in leaving the United Methodist church, which was the one my parents and I belonged to. Later that week: Neighbors invited me to attend the local ward with them. They had asked only once before, several months earlier, when I had moved into the house I was living in then and met them, and I'd told them simply, "No, thanks." This time, of course, I accepted. 12 June 1977: I attended the local ward with my neighbors. When the sacrament was passed, I let it pass by, until the stopped the person passing it and signaled for me to take it, which I did. That evening, I attended a fireside for young adults at the local stake center, where one of the people I met turned out to be a missionary who had just returned from Germany the day before, and he and I became friends. 14 June 1977: My 23rd birthday. 15 June 1977: The young adults of the stake regularly had activities on Wednesday night, and I started attending. I continued attending Church services on Sunday and the activities on Wednesday until 13 July 1977: After that Wednesday night's activity, I was riding back to town with the aforementioned recently returned missionary, and he was telling me some things about the LDS Church and culture and answering the questions I asked in response to his explanations. Eventually, there was a pause in the conversation, and he asked if I had any more questions. "Just one," I replied. "How does one join?" He did recover in time to avoid running off the road and drowning us in the reservoir located there. 17 July 1977: In the afternoon after Church, the missionaries show up at my door. We go through all the lessons during the following week, after which I finally get around to reading the entire Book of Mormon. 30 July 1977: I was baptized. 31 July 1977: Confirmed and ordained a priest. 9 Oct 1977: Ordained an elder. 13 Aug 1978: Ordained a seventy. 15 Aug 1978: Got my endowments. - --Ronn! :) - --------------------------------------------------------- I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle - --------------------------------------------------------- - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:00:57 -0600 From: Thom Duncan Subject: [AML] Movie Rights (was: Sex in Literature) Craig Huls wrote: > Thom Duncan wrote: > > > > > > > Serious considerations. Suppose you do get the book published, and it makes a > > move sale. You, as a new writer, would have NO rights over the final film > > version. > > > > Thom > > > > Thom.... > Maybe I am really naive. I certainly have no experience to speak to, but is there > any reason the writer can't have an attorney when negotiating the contract with > specific clauses indicating damages if the movie takes a twist outside the > contract? It would seem in this litigious society we live in today the writer ought > to have something to say about it. If you brought in an attorney (as opposed to an agent), I'm almost certain the publishing company would back out of the deal. If Orson Scott Card has to produce Ender's Game himself just so he can make sure they don't cast Ender as a teenager and throw in a sex scene or two, then there's NO WAY you or I, or an unknown writer would get that much clout. When a movie production company buys the movie rights, they buy ALL the rights. They can turn your suspense story into a musical and cast Bette Midler as a teenage boy and there is nothing in this world you can do about it. Thom - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:54:43 -0500 From: Ronn Blankenship Subject: Re: [AML] Artists vs. Illustrators At 02:36 PM 8/1/01, Anna Wight wrote: >There's a lot of stuff out there labeled art that looks like something my >two year old could do. There's stuff out there labeled art that looks like what I'd get if I dipped my two cats in contrasting colors of paint, put them on a blank canvas, and got them to fight with each other. Hey, do you think anyone would buy . . . - --Ronn! :) - --------------------------------------------------------- I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle - --------------------------------------------------------- - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:14:28 -0500 From: Craig Huls Subject: [AML] Re: Movie Rights (was: Editing Literature) William Morris wrote: > In the Mormon publishing world it's even worse (or at > least that's what I've heard). The major publishers > won't even deal with literary agents, let alone > lawyers. > > ~~William Morris > WOW. No wonder I'm going to have to live to be 100 to get all this done. Not only do I have to write and publish it. Now you're telling me if I don't want some director to missinterpret it I have to film it too! ;-) Oh well it will keep me young! Richard Dutcher? If you are listening in, start a film school for old guys with a dream! I don't think my VHS recorder is up to the task! Not too soon though I have too much on my plate as it is! Now there's another thread folks. Lets start the "AML Film Production Company!" Thom, if you promise to read my mind you can be the director! Rex and I will write about sex that we won't film and well ..... this could get to be fun... (tic) We could write about a celibate Brigham Young and ooops....now I am getting carried away....[g] It is late and I must hit my chair I have a full day tomorrow. I love you folks! Goodnight from HOT TEXAS! Blame this outburst on the heat! Craig - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:18:15 -0600 From: John Williams Subject: RE: [AML] Editing Literature >> Do you get the same bad taste in your mouth when you apply this >> logic to, say, the culinary arts? Ex: the Chef wrote this recipe >> with green pepper in it. You don't like green peppers, or you're >> allergic to them? Well, then, you shouldn't be allowed to have the >> soup at all. Either you get it EXACTLY as the menu describes it or >> else you don't get it at all (this is starting to sound like the >> Soup Nazi on Seinfield). > >I don't think your analogy fits quite right. When you follow a >recipe, you end up with some kind of culinary creation. When you read >a book, you end up with some kind of mental image. I think you're comparing making food and reading a book, but I'm comparing EATING the food and reading the book (writer = chef; reader = eater). Is there really that big of a difference between a work of art that you _see_ and a work of art that you _taste_? (Perhaps there are some more bellicose chefs on the list here willing to defend their casserole as a work of art? Stand forth and protect the artistic integrity of your muffins! ...I'm afraid that my cooking more closely resembles the work of Jackson Pollock, and probably won't serve as a very good example of "food as art.") >In the 1980s, Better Homes and Gardens released a new edition of their >popular cookbook. Because of the sodium scare at that time, the >editors decided to remove salt from almost every recipe in the book. >If you compare recipes from the new and previous editions, often you >would find that only the salt changed -- no other compensation for the >change in flavor made by the omission of salt. To me, the editors >should have printed a "no salt" icon next to every recipe where the >reader could choose to optionally eliminate the salt from the recipe, >but instead, the editors decided that everyone would eliminiate salt >from their diet. This is fascinating. Where did you read about this? - --John. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:21:46 -0600 From: John Williams Subject: RE: [AML] Editing Literature Eric Snider wrote: >An author might write a book and insist it never be made into a film, >never be abridged, never be put into paperback, never be translated >into another language -- in other words, insist it remain exactly as >he wrote it. And people can still buy it, read it, misinterpret it, >misunderstand it, retell it poorly to their friends, get offended by >things the author did not mean to be offensive, and place the wrong >emphasis on a supporting character when the author intended for the >main character to be the important one. The reader may treat the book >itself like a sacred object, and revere the author -- but he has >still "edited" the book, with the red pen of prejudice in the margins >of his mind. (Thank you. Thank you very much.) You wouldn't expect a humor columnist/movie reviewer to elucidate the major tenets of post-structuralist criticism, but Eric, smarty pants, surely has (and with alliteration, too!). >I used to be the same way with records. There was just something cool >about watching them spin around on the turntable, seeing the slight >wobbliness of the needle, etc., etc. I've always hated cassettes. >They're so boring. Yes, but cassettes had the advantage of forcing you to listen to the entire album, getting to know (and eventually appreciate) songs you would have otherwise skipped in a fit of impatience. Trust me, I've known Eric D. Snider since we were freshmen together at BYU, and he has fits all the time :) >Apples and oranges, my good friend John Williams. We're talking about >boycotting ONE particular film because it has content we object to. >The parallel to your example would be boycotting an entire video >store because it carries one movie we don't like, and I don't think >anyone's suggesting that. But someone not buying ONE particular film hardly feels like a boycott. Maybe it would be more useful to refer to it as a "personal decision to abstain." Boycotts, generally speaking, seem more economically coercive--grander--at least in the way we usually use the word. Just a minute, I'll look it up . . . . Okay, we're all wrong. If you are acting alone, it doesn't even fit the definition of "boycott": "To _act together_ in abstaining . . ." (emphasis obviously mine). YOU can boycott neither "Titanic" nor the video store. For it to really be a "boycott," you have to participate in a communal expression of protest or disfavor. Geez, now I've switched roles. Two paragraphs ago I was descriptive linguist, and now I'm prescriptive despot. I'll just give up now . . . use the word however you want. >(You really should get a DVD player.) We graduate students don't have the big salaries of you Newspaper folk, so I'll have to take your word for it. Nice to hear from you Eric. John. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:09:57 -0600 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Artists vs. Illustrators [MOD: Compilation of two Thom Duncan posts.] "LauraMaery (Gold) Post" wrote: > But if, perchance, I'm wrong, and he does, in fact, actually illustrate, I > still don't see how engaging in the art of illustration makes one something > less than an artist...any more than engaging in the production of s.f.-- or > tech writing, As a writer of both, I can tell you there is a great difference between writing SF and writing technical manuals. The former CAN be a work of art, the latter must never be. In the latter, form follows function. I can't write an SF story without some kind of mental or spiritual preparation. Writing tech manuals is about as automatic as eating. > FWIW, I'm looking right now at Greg Olsen's Web site > , and what I see there is pretty > definitively ART. One may fairly argue about the quality of his art (I > happen to like it, but I'll grant you the option of disliking it), but art > it is, nonetheless. Pretty pictures, but not ART. Thom Duncan REWIGHT wrote: > > But, to me, it's static. It's not just a snapshot of something > > happening in time. It has no past or future. Is Christ sitting because > > he's tired? Can't tell. He's too clean to have been walking the > > streets of Jerusalem all day. What does his expression tell us about > > what he thinks about Jerusalem? To me, it tells me nothing. Christ's > > face is expressionless. He could just as easily be looking at a tree, > > or a rock. Christ isn't sitting as real people sit, he's posing. > > But that's just your interpretation and what you see (or don't see). What > is Christ thinking of? Is it up to the artist to tell us, or is it up to > the us to decide for ourselves? Do we really want artists to spell out > everything for us? I like art that suggests a story, and for me, Olsen's > art does. (by the way there is symbolism in Olsen's work that you may have > missed). > > By your description you would claim that the Mona Lisa isn't art either. > It's just a picture of a woman with a smile. What is she thinking? No one > knows. So try telling the rest of the art world that the Mona Lisa isn't a > work of art. If people are still wondering what Christ is thinking in "O. Jerusalem" three hundred years from now, then it's art. Part of art is work that transcends the ages. A white, Anglo-Saxon Christ with clean fingernails isn't a work of the ages. The enigmatic Moan Lisa most certainly is. Thom - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:03:29 -0700 From: "Jeff Needle" Subject: Re: [AML] Gary ROE, _Mormons against the MOB?_ (Review) I hope I can find one at Borders for that price. I'd add it to my library, just for the curiosity value. - ----- Original Message ----- [snip] > > I bought the book at Borders for a buck. > > Roy Schmidt - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:04:40 -0700 From: "Jeff Needle" Subject: Re: [AML] Jennie HANSEN, _The River Path_ (Review) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Holladay" > > Jeff Needle wrote: > > > > >There are some points of discontinuity that are > > puzzling. One > > > >that comes to mind involves Matt's decision to > > purchase cell > > > >phones for himself and for Dana. Having > > delivered the phone to > > > >her, she soon finds herself needing to make a > > call. She runs to > > > >a phone booth, finds it busy, and goes looking > > for another one. > > > >No explanation is given as to why she couldn't > > just use her cell > > > >phone. > > Matt and Dana are having communication problems and he > buys the cell phones since she is staying at the > hospital to be near their son and he can't be with her > because he's needed at work. When he comes to the > hospital with the new phones, he finds her asleep and > rather than wake her, he leaves a phone with her and a > note that tells her not to use it in the hospital > since it can affect the hospital's electronic > equipment. Most hospitals have signs asking that > visitors turn off their cell phones when they enter > the hospital. > > Valerie Holladay > Ack! You're absolutely correct. My apologies for the mis-read. Jonathan, shall I revise the review and re-send it? [MOD: Fine with me. Terry, if Jeff does this, can you capture the later version and use it for the book review archive?] - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:36:42 -0600 From: John Williams Subject: [AML] Out-of-print Books (was: Sex in Literature) >When I was a teenager, I read a novel called, _The Viking_. I can't remember >the author. (Is there a place on the net where you can look up information >on old out-of-print novels?) It was about Leif Erikson finding the new >world. There were several tawdry sex scenes in it and I was looking for a >cigarette after each one (even though I didn't smoke). You can find a lot of out-of-print novels for sale at www.bibliofind.com, where a bunch of used-book stores across the country have put their entire inventories on-line. I use it all the time, and usually find whatever I'm looking for. This may or may not be helpful since they don't provide a synopsis for the books, but it might point you in the right direction. Best of luck with the novel, Rex. John. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 02:22:54 -0400 From: "Debra L. Brown" Subject: [AML] Fw: MN Maren Ord Tells Edmonton Sun About Career: FYI Edmonton (Edmonton Sun) 29Jul01 A2 Maren Ord Tells Edmonton Sun About Career EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA -- With tours shaping up for fall and a series of free concerts at Kinsmen Park during the World Championships in Athletics and playing in Sarah McLachlan's Lilith Fair, Maren Ord has been forced to quit her part-time job at Treasured Memories. What has been been bad for the scrapbook industry has been good for the music business. With the full support of her large, musical Mormon family, Ord, 20, is preparing for her August 6 performance at the Festival of the Worlds. She says she is delighted to be able to make a career out of the dream she's had since she was a child. When asked about her perfect day, Ord replied, "It would be Sunday." "Wake up, go to church, come home spend time with my family," she said. "We try to have family dinners every Sunday. Actually, every Sunday is perfect for me." When asked who she most admires most, Ord said, "My parents. I really look up to them. They're a really good example to me. They've been the most influential in my life." Her most extravagent expense is her art supplies and her greatest weakness is chocolate. Her favorite quote is "Remember who you are and what you stand for." Source: Every Sunday is the perfect Sunday FYI Edmonton (Edmonton Sun) 29Jul01 A2 http://www.fyiedmonton.com/htdocs/arts.shtml by Mike Ross: The Edmonton Sun 20 questions with Maren Ord >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:04:57 -0700 From: Terri Reid Subject: RE: [AML] LDS Publishers vs. National Publishers Thom said: "Which is precisely WHY I think faithful Mormon writers writing for the larger market should almost feel it a mission from God to use Mormon characters wherever they can." Once again - Thom has cut to the chase. That's it - no preaching, no taking away from what we write, but rather adding to it by including believable Mormon protagonists and antagonists. HUCK FINN (referring to Paris' note) has a lot of "LDS" elements - and had Mark Twain not been put off by the "beauty" of the LDS women pioneers, perhaps there might have been even more. :) We can write what makes up happy AND include LDS ideas, characters and elements. Terri Reid Executive Producer - Midwest Region PIXELight www.itpnow.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #413 ******************************