From: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com (bagpipe-digest) To: bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: bagpipe-digest V1 #37 Reply-To: bagpipe-digest Sender: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk bagpipe-digest Tuesday, August 31 1999 Volume 01 : Number 037 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:40:53 +0100 From: "lsrapm" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Proper kilt height. dnimmo wrote in message news:rrjgtf9b3uk90@corp.supernews.com... > Close to fisticuffs in band re differences of opinion on "proper" height of > kilt, ie., how much of knee should be showing. I know there are many > personal opinions, mine included, but looking for possible sources that can > be presented as some sort of "authority" on or off the internet addressing > this question. Posts from military type pipe band members quoting their > dress manuals would be much appreciated. Similarly, height of hose > directives would be of interest. > > Thanks in advance > > David > Tired of kilt bottoms being lower than hose tops! > (Taken from Liverpool Scottish Army Dress Regulations 1968) The bottom of the kilt should be on a line with the centre of the knee cap, (ie. just touching the floor when kneeling) and not drooping at the back. Hose tops: seam at the centre of the back of the calf. With the turnover in place, the top of the hose should be three fingers' width below the fibia ball on the outside of the leg. (If using black and red diced hose), there should be one red square showing in the centre front of the hose turnover and three red squares showing below, above the spats. Chris Eyre Liverpool Scottish Regimental Associaion Pipe Band - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:28:41 GMT From: "Douglas \"Doug\" Frobese" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: questions about smallpipes Robert Wallace, also of the band "Whistlebinkies," has a recording of Scottish smallpipe tunes (or tunes played on Scottish smallpipes at least). I haven't heard the album, but I have heard him play with the Whistlebinkies, and the tone of his smallpipes and his playing is superb, to say the least. Anyone who has heard him play the GHB is aware of his excellent technique and musicianship. I'm sure this album is also top quality. Doug Frobese Tgreul wrote in message news:19990820224415.16883.00000128@ng-bh1.aol.com... > >third, can anyone recommend a good smallpipes recording? < > > 'The Chanter's Song' by Mike MacNintch is a nice recording. (anybody know if > he's got a new CD coming out soon?) Also, Matt Seattle has a new CD out called > 'Out of the Flames' - he plays the border pipes which has a different > repertoire; it's a great CD. > Tom > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:14:51 -0400 From: "A.L. Rapp" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Flag Protocol While in uniform the headgear stays on. Hand over heart or salute is appropriate as any Boy Scout will tell you. I Hope ! - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:57:09 -0500 From: Richard Mao Subject: (bagpipe) Re: funeral idea Hi Mike... some idle thoughts... guilty about $200 for a short period of playing...for a funeral service...? YOU may have the wrong attitude, brother.... how much time did it take you to garb up...travel to the site (mileage expense)...warm up and tune your pipes (you did make a sincere effort to tune them, didn't you?)...wait for the appropriate time(s) to play. (especially a longish funeral)..travel back home.... hang up your clothes and wash/clean them as appropriate.... Were you able to perform any other meaningful projects during the day....income producing?...or did the gig effectively break up your day.... Are you proud of your playing....are you rendering honor to the deceased... giving the deceased a proud sendoff and helping the family get through the grieving process...did you play to the best of your ability to express the tunes you played? (if not...draw and act on your own conclusions...refuse the next gig you can't give your all to).... do you really feel the family resents you....after having members of the family come up and tell you how much it meant to them.... how the deceased would have loved it.... How many of the family knows what you are being paid... they only know the honor they are rendering to the deceased... ............and so should you.... it will help your view of the matter, I hope. A smile on your face is the light in the window that lets people know you're at home.(author unknown) Richard Mao, The Peking Piper ( PekingPiper@mao.org ) Gaelmann wrote: > >that's the way I always do it, Mike > > Oh man! I thought I had a great original idea. > > >I've had the occasion to talk to after the funeral. > > Wow! I dont even feel comfortable looking in their direction. Maybe If I was > doing it for free, I always feel like the family resents me for some reason. > Well maybe not for*some reason*, I think the reason's quite clear as I have 200 > dollars of someones hard earned cash sitting in my sporran > and I didn't even break a sweat. I think we all know about that exciting *I > just got away with *ripping off* the local bank, lets skip town to tiajuana* > feeling you get as soon as you pass the gate of the cemetery. I usually let out > a YeeeeHawww! myself. > Sure I feel guilty, but I'm an Irish Catholic, Guilt is already such a common > thread in my life anything else just wouldnt feel right. > I'm being truthful, Making a quick 200 bucks is exciting to me, maybe its > because I lead a fairly normal/boring lifestyle, but I'm willing to bet I'm not > alone in my feelings on this subject. > So please don't persecute me as Jewel says" these are not your hands they are > my own". Don't ask me what that means but in a strange way I think it may > apply. > > Mike (don't judge me)McFafern - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:28:45 -0400 From: "Andrew Berthoff" Subject: (bagpipe) http://www.PiperAndDrummer.com We've just received our first analysis of activity at the new Piper & Drummer magazine Web site (http://www.PiperAndDrummer.com). Since its launch four days ago, there have been over 4,000 individual visits, and over 100,000 page view "hits." We hope you visit and keep returning to the site for daily updates. BTW -- today's Poll asks whether you think the Grade 1 judging at the '99 World's was fair. Be sure to express your opinion on this and future daily Poll questions! And don't forget to cast your vote for our "Best of the Millenium" Online Survey, as well as visiting all the other stuff at the site. Hope you enjoy it, Andrew Berthoff Toronto, Canada - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 00:24:54 -0500 From: "Maeve" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Drone cords: Silk or polyester? Zudupiper wrote in article <19990813233721.07197.00001252@ng-fg1.aol.com>... > Feels more like polyester, or some texturized synthetic. And the cable ties > just slip and slide. This was never a problem with wool cords, and wasn't a > problem with the silk cords I had years ago. > > What's up with that? Has silk been replaced with imitation silk? It's simple enough to find out. Just take a small piece and light it with a match. If it melts into a ball, it's synthetic. If it turns to ash, it's silk. Same with wool or acrylic. If it smells like burning hair and goes to ash, it's wool. And it's just not everyone who can have handspun silk cords braided in Kumihimo fashion for their pipes :) Only certain people and their good friends :) :) - -- Love and Light be with you, Maeve http://people.delphi.com/terralyn terride@sanctum.com - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:13:26 -0400 From: "Bill Burt" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The thing in the sock. Actually, the sghian dubh (black knife) was originally (according to accounts which I read) a last resort weapon which was concealed under the arm and was intended only for use if the combatant was hopelessly cornered without any other means of defense. It became an indispensable part of highland dress when it moved to the right sock. The tradition of carrying it in the right sock is essentially a part of what became known as "table manners." In short, a gentleman never carries a concealed weapon - especially not to the dinner table. Hence, placement in the right sock was a sign to your host and/or guests that although you were carrying a weapon, it was in plain view for all to see and that you were a gentleman who had no intention of using this "last resort," since all other weapons, for the duration of the social occasion, were either not brought along, or left at the door. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:58:09 GMT From: JOHN MITCHELL Subject: (bagpipe) Re: bagpipes at Weddings Chris Hamilton wrote: > At my very first wedding gig (my sister, 1974) I think I played Morag > of Dunvegan. Probably unrecognizable, and certainly on a hideous > choking and untuned bagpipe ... Knowing you, you probably still got your 250 bucks out of her! LOL John Mitchell(the Lovely Piper) - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:32:00 -0700 From: Andrew & Kristen Lenz Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Pin is up! Just catching up from a few days off of the NG . . . I kinda like the buckle, but I'd say it has to read as a "@" number one, and belt number two. So I'd say move the buckle, make sure we can see the break in the circle and then see what it looks like. I'd ditch the serif (for lack of a more accurate term) off the upper right of the "a" in the center, make it more italicized and thin it out so it's taller/more oblong. I'd add the blowpipe and chanter, just run them under/through the flames and and have them disappear under the belt so they are not prominent. I'd give the drones/chanter/blowpipe more detail/roughen them up and give them contrast to a very smooth, shiny "@". My two cents, Andrew - -- Andrew T. Lenz, Jr. alenz@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu Santa Cruz, California U.S.A. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Aug 1999 17:00:37 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Pin4.jpg . . . sorry! >I love it!!!!!!!! > Me too! Although the drones protruding from the wrong end LOL! Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri traghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 1999 21:14:48 GMT From: ccc31807@aol.com (Ccc31807) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: memorizing tunes With all respect, your schema, to me, is extremely dangereous. I say this as an amateur musician who has memorized a great deal of music, most of it not bagpipe music. The absolute WORST thing you can do in committing a piece of music to memory is to play it through enough times to be able to play it without the music. Not only is this method inefficient, it will fail you at the most critical time. You wrote: >What, then, is the process of learning. How do you, learn/memorize under this >viewpoint? The conscious mind’s role is to show the subconscious mind how to >play a >tune and then the conscious mind gets out of the way. > >First, we must recognize that either the conscious mind or the subconscious >mind >can control and manipulate your fingers. I visualize the memorization process >this >way: > >At first, the conscious mind uses your eyes to read the music and move the >fingers >according to the pattern of notes. The conscious mind is “showing” the >subconscious >mind how this tune goes. > >Then comes repetition of the musical phrase (in this context, a phrase is a >chunk >of music that the piper is comfortable with memorizing, e.g. a four-note >musical >word, a two-bar phrase, an eight-bar part–all based on the piper’s current >musical >memorization capability). The conscious mind makes the fingers play the >phrase over >and over...eventually the conscious mind gets familiar with the tune and its >attention wanders. The subconscious mind reaches out under the conscious >mind’s >finger control and starts manipulating the fingers. > >The conscious mind at first resists this takeover and the fingers fumble, the >fingers can lock up....the conscious mind has not developed confidence that >the >subconscious mind can do the job. (Imagine a father hanging on to the seat of >a >bicycle, running along side while his child pedals the wheels. The kid >shouts, “let >go, let go” and sooner or later the parent has to let go...the kid might >wobble, >but will straighten out and peddle on its own....that’s successful learning >and >letting go.) This is a recipe for disaster. After you have memorized a tune, you should be able to sit down with a sheet of manuscript paper and write the tune perfectly, without using your fingers to "play" the tune, or your ears to "hear" it, or your eyes to "see" it. Only when you have done this can you be said to have learned the music. I don't think that you can do this with your method. Try it and see. If you can, then your method is fine. I would be interested to see if it works. On another note, it seems to me that pipers differ from "real" musicians in two respects. First, a "real" musician can perform being completely unfit. A piper can't. The GHB is a physically strenuous instrument, and it calls for a certain level of physical fitness. Second, a "real" musician doesn't have to rely on his memory. He is seldom called upon to play without his music. A piper can't do this. He can't play with the music, he must play without it. (When is the last time you saw a piper playing in front of a music stand?) This is why this topic is so important, and why memory work must be given the highest priority. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:56:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Duell Subject: (bagpipe) Re: U.S. Kilt makers? I know that you said U.S., but Burnett's and Struth in Ontario (705-728-3232) or burnetts@mcw.on.ca makes a nice kilt at a reasonable price. Mike - ---Pipeboy3 wrote: > > Message from the Deja.com forum: > rec.music.makers.bagpipe > Your subscription is set to individual email delivery > oO---------------------------------------------------------Oo > SPONSOR > No gimmicks - just great value! Long distance with Qwest. > State-to-state calls 9c cents a minute, all day, every day with NO > monthly fee. Sign up today and start experiencing the difference. > http://gp4.deja.com/emc?id=1002485&site=dn.vpmail > oO---------------------------------------------------------Oo > > You might want to also try Ann Stewart. She made me my kilt and did a super > job. (she had her work cut out for her because I'm a "special" size.) Good > Luck, Paul > > Ann Stewart > 384 Main St. > Catskill, NY 12414 > Phone: (518) 943-0975 > FAX: (518) 943-6605 > E-mail: kiltmakr@mhonline.net > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Deja.com: Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > http://www.deja.com/ > * To modify or remove your subscription, go to > http://www.deja.com/edit_sub.xp?group=rec.music.makers.bagpipe > * Read this thread at > http://www.deja.com/thread/%3C19990823235034.00346.00003103%40ng-ck1.aol.com%3E > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:59:04 -0500 From: "matheson" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: And yet another . . . pin3 I like the changes, but the angle of the drones in pin 2 seems better than the straighter ones in pin 1/3. Just my opinion. Really must be commended. Les Maeve wrote in message <01bee753$d6d15f20$5f46a5ce@sanctum.com.sanctum.com>... >Pin3.jpg is up. I tried to use a consensus of opinions to create this one. >The background (behind the @ and flames) is intended to be open. Hope this >one is closer! > >http://people.delphi.com/terralyn/pin3.jpg > >Pin1 and pin2 are still there as well. >-- >Love and Light be with you, >Maeve >http://people.delphi.com/terralyn >terride@sanctum.com - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 10:13:52 GMT From: jsloanpr@aol.com (JSLOANPR) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Top 10 Hints for Improving > have certainly known pipers who didn't seem to care if their pipes >were out of tune or not. We have some pipers around here that will go much better ( read worse ) than that! Can you imagine charging a fee to perform at a wedding or other gig when you have never had a lession, can't play a grace note, own one shitty reed, can't tune your pipes or play anything but Amazing Grace and two other tunes very very badly. And this knowing half the wedding party was coming from Scotland, or gig was going to be on TV or world class pipers were going to be there? NOTICE: Being of Scotttish decent does not mean you have a weird gene that enables you to play the bagpipes without instruction, good reeds, hard practise and much more. Pass the bottle of Tums and another beer. Sorry for the rave. Jim - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 1999 18:20:51 GMT From: ccc31807@aol.com (Ccc31807) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Higgins does good work. >Colorado Irish PB has used Higgins for all its kilts for about 10 years with >never a complaint. Stu Ditto in my own experience. Higgins will make mistakes, but I have never had to wait more than a week for the correction. A friend of mine had to wait about two months, and was pissed off at Higgins for a needless, stupid mistake (they unaccountably delayed in completing an order), but Higgins made it up properly, and the final product was exactly as advertised. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 14:16:07 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Drone cords: Silk or polyester? >Real silk "silk pipe cords" have not been around for thirty years or better. >for that matter niether has silk lingere, I mean not that i would know ...or >anything...I mean about the lingere... > Consider this little bugs produce silk. If little bugs had to poop out >enough stuff for you "silk" pipe cords do you think that they would cost >29.99. > no really, silk is too expensive to produce for things like that anymore. >they have been synthetic for years. The difference between these and you last >cords is probobly just a different maker That's interesting because at band practice the other night someone was examining our pipes and commented on the quality of our tassles, and after touching them said "they're real silk too". It's nice to know that if they are or not, (who cares?, as long as they look good) that some NON-Paki made stuff still looks good enough to fool the eye and hand. And contrary to Mr LeBeouf's contention, the world does NOT evolve around Pakistan, and there's ACTUALLY other makers of products in the world besides Pakistan. Oh yes we know Mr L., it was REALLY made in Pakistan, then secretly smuggled to other countrys who mark it up, and sell it as their own. PLEEEEEEASE! BTW, Who suggested lighting your tassles to test them? You've probaly just been responsible for burning up a few hundred pipes and pipes Hopefully they were Pakis LOLOLOL Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri traghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 23:13:11 GMT From: rojo2g@aol.com (Rojo2G) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Top 5 Hints >You folks could do with getting your hands on "The Inner Game of >Music". You mean theres more to than always starting on the wrong foot? - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:08:45 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Smallpipes with ceilidh band - make/volume/key? On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:22:36 -0500, Mike Talcott wrote: > > >Mike Talcott wrote: > >An amazing amount of garbage, but I forgot one point: get a sound guy that listens >to (and likes) what you guys play. Nothing like trying to set up a Celtic band to >sound like AC/DC. > Maybe we can condense that to: 1 Set levels on the smallpipes just short of feedback. 2 Set everything else to mix up to that. 3 Leave everything the hell alone after it's the soundcheck. Royce (By the way, sit down, play the chanter in your crotch, set the mike right at your knee pointed at the family jewels, directed at the bottom of the chanter, the weaker notes of the smallpipes.) - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:46:18 -0500 From: "Daniel Sheppard" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: funeral idea Mike, Though my expierence is very limited piping at funerals I have been in charge of the Honor Guard for the Corpus Christi Fire Department since 1993. You have a great idea and it appears that others have done the same or similar. But remember sometimes the family or friends of the deceised feel a need to personally thank you. It may help with their grief and closure. My suggestion is as you begin playing the second verse of AG have a pre-selected spot to walk to. If this is near your car so much the better. Give the minister a few minutes to conclude the ceremony then play one or two slow airs while people line up to console the family. By the time you are finished there are others leaving and it gives a chance for personal thanks from family or friends. Anyway for what it's worth. Dan Sheppard - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:41:42 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Top 5 Hints On 10 Aug 1999 08:45:04 GMT, bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) wrote: >>Well, I suppose you can, but that'll add another 10 years of mindless >>tedium for no good reason to the process. > >According to my tutor it takes 7 years of mindless tedium... ;?)~ For a total of 17 years. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:54:34 -0400 From: "Vern Catron" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Shuttle Pipe Tuning They are definatly in the key of A. Getting the pressure right takes practice, try playing with the bag "soft" ie not inflated fully. Feadog wrote in message news:19990813182655.15512.00000723@ng-cq1.aol.com... > I just got my first set of pipes today, a new set of Walsh shuttle pipes with > three drones. The shuttle pipe chanter is supposed to be in the key of A. When > I play a low A, fingered with all holes covered except the right little finger, > it shows close to D on my tuner. It's also a D for the high A fingering. I say > close because I have some wavering due to my poor bag control. The scale > appears to be D, not A as I expected. I ran a sanity check with my Bb whistle > and it is Bb on my tuner. I did verify that the drones were off. I tried > varying the bag pressure, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. > > Is this normal for shuttle pipes, or due to my lack of proficiency, or > indicative of a defective setup, or ??? > > A frustrated beginner. > > Bill - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:57:09 -0500 From: Richard Mao Subject: (bagpipe) Re: funeral idea Hi Mike... some idle thoughts... guilty about $200 for a short period of playing...for a funeral service...? YOU may have the wrong attitude, brother.... how much time did it take you to garb up...travel to the site (mileage expense)...warm up and tune your pipes (you did make a sincere effort to tune them, didn't you?)...wait for the appropriate time(s) to play. (especially a longish funeral)..travel back home.... hang up your clothes and wash/clean them as appropriate.... Were you able to perform any other meaningful projects during the day....income producing?...or did the gig effectively break up your day.... Are you proud of your playing....are you rendering honor to the deceased... giving the deceased a proud sendoff and helping the family get through the grieving process...did you play to the best of your ability to express the tunes you played? (if not...draw and act on your own conclusions...refuse the next gig you can't give your all to).... do you really feel the family resents you....after having members of the family come up and tell you how much it meant to them.... how the deceased would have loved it.... How many of the family knows what you are being paid... they only know the honor they are rendering to the deceased... ............and so should you.... it will help your view of the matter, I hope. A smile on your face is the light in the window that lets people know you're at home.(author unknown) Richard Mao, The Peking Piper ( PekingPiper@mao.org ) Gaelmann wrote: > >that's the way I always do it, Mike > > Oh man! I thought I had a great original idea. > > >I've had the occasion to talk to after the funeral. > > Wow! I dont even feel comfortable looking in their direction. Maybe If I was > doing it for free, I always feel like the family resents me for some reason. > Well maybe not for*some reason*, I think the reason's quite clear as I have 200 > dollars of someones hard earned cash sitting in my sporran > and I didn't even break a sweat. I think we all know about that exciting *I > just got away with *ripping off* the local bank, lets skip town to tiajuana* > feeling you get as soon as you pass the gate of the cemetery. I usually let out > a YeeeeHawww! myself. > Sure I feel guilty, but I'm an Irish Catholic, Guilt is already such a common > thread in my life anything else just wouldnt feel right. > I'm being truthful, Making a quick 200 bucks is exciting to me, maybe its > because I lead a fairly normal/boring lifestyle, but I'm willing to bet I'm not > alone in my feelings on this subject. > So please don't persecute me as Jewel says" these are not your hands they are > my own". Don't ask me what that means but in a strange way I think it may > apply. > > Mike (don't judge me)McFafern - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:39:35 +0100 From: "lsrapm" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Revised @pin up now. lsrapm I downloaded your first drawing a few days ago, but I've tried several times > to download this update. All I get is "wrong address". Is there a problem? > > Chris Eyre > Forget I spoke.... I just downloaded version 3, no problem. It's getting better.... The only bit I think is weak is the motto "Don't thread on me" Just my idea... Chris Eyre - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 1999 04:45:46 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Proper kilt height. >I know there are many >personal opinions, mine included, but looking for possible sources that can >be presented as some sort of "authority" on or off the internet addressing >this question. > Similarly, height of hose >directives would be of interest. My reference books are at work, but they are Edgar MacIntyre's "Drum Major's Handbook" and "So You're Going to Wear the Kilt". The first book has many drawings. Kilt should be reach to the top of the knee, and shorter is better than longer. Hose should reach to that bone on the outboard side of your leg, below the kneecap. I'll give you specifics tomorrow.... Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:03:23 +0200 From: Fred Bronius Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Pipe Bags Hi there,
 

I know L&M bags very well. And yes the are good, but seven years is along time. It all comes down on the climat you live in, In Holland just as in Scotland the wheater is mostly rainy and that's why we choose for the sheepskin. it absorbs the moisture, but when you live in a dry climat the best bag to choose is a hide or an elk bag. Furthermore everything depends on how wet a blower you are. Watch out with the Canmore bag, because this bag doesn't regulate the moisture so good.
But anyway at the end off it all it comes down to the taste of the piper himself, but you have to take some points in account before you choose a bag.

Fred - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 19:44:30 GMT From: jsloanpr@aol.com (JSLOANPR) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Top 10 Hints for Improving >> Pass the bottle of Tums and another beer > >Sounds like a long interesting story with an ulcer at the end.... do >tell... > It starts: Once upon a time there was a band with a few more hackers than serious pipers who wanted to move up in grade and skill. The hackers would vote down any move to improve. They only played their pipes the night of band practise. When world class pipers came in to do a help seminar with us the hackers would resist any changes in tunes or technique suggested because " he didn't know what he was talking about ". Soon the band began to quarrel, unfortunately for the serious pipers the hackers all carried Paki dirks. One dark night after practise at the pub ..................... Jim - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:13:08 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Top 5 Hints On Sat, 07 Aug 1999 14:58:46 GMT, "Ron Bowen" wrote: >Let's try to get back on topic... Top 5 Hints: > >1) Listen, listen, listen - I reckon we got two ears and one mouth for a >reason. Lord knows I like talking as much as the next person, but I have to >admit that I've learned an awful lot by listening to others. This doesn't >mean that I necessarily agreed with everything they said, however in my own >private way, or in confidence with others whom I respect, I would put their >theories to the test and then decide for myself what is best. > >2) Ask questions - Here's where you mouth kicks in. Keep probing to reveal >and understand. Be curious and alert. Find out "why" or "why not". Accept >a fish, and you eat for a day. Learn to fish and you feed yourself for a >lifetime... or something like that. > >3) Experiment - What do you think? You think that these "master pipers" >just woke up one day with perfect technique or perfect tuning? No way. >They tried different things in the privacy of their own home. I remember >when tuning the chanter first started to make sense to me. I experimented >with taping the various holes and listening to the difference, adjusting the >drones, fiddling, listening, fiddling, listening. This was years prior to >me ever having the courage to take a knife to a chanter. Over time my >confidence and competence grew to the point where no one.... and I mean NO >ONE, has touched my reed, chanter, or bagpipe in over 10 years. There. Ringo said it. Now that guy can believe it. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:50:47 -0500 (CDT) From: axnjxn@webtv.net (Daniel Jackson) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Top 10 Hints for Improving Man, that bottle....er....battle scene had me on the edge of my couch, wishing I had a Paki bass drone to use as a shillelagh! I still want to know about the badpiper (sic) and the televised wedding gig..... - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:12:07 -0500 From: Tad Myers Subject: (bagpipe) Re: funeral idea I have decided that it is my responsibility to wait at the grave side till the immeadiate family have left. I will play 3/4's or other slow airs on and off while the family pays their respects. At the end i march off playing a minor key 6/8 or 2/4. The family usually is nothing but kind. Cheers Tad - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ End of bagpipe-digest V1 #37 **************************** - To unsubscribe to $LIST, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe $LIST" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.