From: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com (bagpipe-digest) To: bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: bagpipe-digest V1 #116 Reply-To: bagpipe-digest Sender: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk bagpipe-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 01 : Number 116 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:47:40 -0300 From: "dnimmo" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: For the lady pipers in the newsgroup......... Audrey wrote in message <37f8139f.17543910@news.powerup.com.au>... >I'm currently nearly 6 months pregnant, and already have had to switch >to an easier chanter reed, and I also get worn out quicker when I >play my pipes. What other effects on my piping can I look forward to? You realize of course, that you are already training one of the next generations of pipers..............so make sure all your embellishments are full and even........introduce him/her to piob...........and ALWAYS hold the LOW A ! otherwise you will be sentencing him/her to eternal "being yelled at" by his/her instructor.............. Congratulations, you look wonderful................david - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Oct 1999 11:56:19 GMT From: alixgunn@aol.com (ALIXGUNN) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: For the lady pipers in the newsgroup......... Hmmmm....David. Bill. I believe the thread reads "for the LADY pipers...." - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:58:07 +0100 From: "Peter Anderson" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The "Right" Bagpipe snip> > The second quality is the drone's ability to stay in tune. I once owned a > set of drones that produced an incredible sound, however I was forever > cranking them to stay in tune. I attributed this, rightly or wrongly, to > the fact that the sound was too clear, too "spot on" and that they were > unforgiving of any "out of tune-ness" whatsoever. Other drones seem to have > a broader range in which they are "in tune". I believe that this is one of > the critical qualities that makes a set of drones superior. I know this to > be true, through my experience and through talking with other respected > pipers. > That's a very interesting point. What is the difference between older v' modern pipes - I am talking about how they are made - that makes such a difference in sound. If the wood is similar, the bore diameter the same, sound chamber 's the same, the length and all other things the same, then what makes the difference in sound? I remember Willie McCallum saying that the bore of his drones were every so slightly 'rough' (i.e. not polished and shiny), the same went for Andrew Wright's pipes. If I look down the hole of my old Lawries - same thing. I have no idea if this has any significance at all - just an observation. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:24:24 +0100 From: Iain Richardson Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Small pipes Yes, it's the same maker. Here are his contact details again: John Rutzen Liafin Linsfort Co Donegal Ireland Tel +353 77 63135 Cheers Iain Andrea wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:06:53 +0100, Iain Richardson > wrote: > > >I have a set of "A" small pipes made by John Rutzen. I > > Is this the Rutzen who makes flutes? If so, I've tried one of his > flutes and it was extremely good for the modest price - very nicely > made. I'd be interested in contact details - if his small pipes are as > good as that flute I'd certainly consider getting a set. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:29:57 GMT From: "Ron Bowen" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: PERFUME IN THE PIPE BAG ???? er,... my post was to Derek, who is a long standing friend. This was his first post to the NG and I guess that we should both thank you for revealing your level of intelligence. I just love it when somebody makes a statement and it comes back to bite them in the ass, moron. Ringo André Mittun wrote in message news:GaYJ3.2880$rP.512@news.get2net.dk... > A very usefull answer. Thank you very much. Moron > > > > Ron Bowen wrote in message ... > >But then, when you're out on a piping job, you can reach into the bag and > >rub a bit of that stuff behind your ears, and owheeee, the cats come > >callin'!!! And get your own "sign off"... Good Piping is mine!!! > >Ringo > >tramp wrote in message > >news:01bf0d23$b20ee400$c222f0d1@schatts... > >> I'VE BEEN AT THIS GAME FOR A LONG TIME.NEVER PROFESSED TO BE A GREAT > >PLAYER > >> OR AN EXPERT AT ANYTHING,BUT PUTTING PERFUME IN THE BAG AFTER SEASONING > >FOR > >> THE SMELL SEEMS SOMEWHAT BIZARRE. > >> I GUESS YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW ALL THE TIME. > >> TAKE CARE EVEYONE AND GOOD PIPING. > >> > >> DEREK > > > > > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:32:52 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: My Mistery Drones Very nice, Bill ! Mike Green, COW P/M, bought a set of very similar-looking drones (also Lawrie) from Jimmy McIntosh earlier this year. Nice pipe. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Oct 1999 12:44:29 GMT From: gaelmann@aol.com (Gaelmann) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners >> The price is wrong Bob... > >Very origional, I've NEVER heard that one before! I'm sorry, forgot to put the "LOL" no offense was intended. It was a bit compulsive on my part, couldn't stop myself, again, my apologies. .>I could give a rats ass about "making grade 1 status"! This is what John, >and apparently you, don't understand about some of us adult learners Actually quite the contrary, I do understand you, at least on an intellectual level, just not on an "emotional?" level. I'll take a shot in the dark and say that John is probably befuddled by the whole idea of "playing your pipes in peace" just as some might be puzzled by the idea of a judge actually determining what is good and what is bad "music"(as oppsed to judging a good crunluath), and the worth of a piper being determined by such judgement. >The >fact that some of us aren't driven to compete in the same nature as John >causes him great confusion. Completely agreed with. I should also add that I'm completely against the aggressive and degrading nature of his posts/attacks, and I would hope that he'll start being a bit more fair to people who don't share his views. > The truth is, I have neither the time, inclination, >nor desire to make the sacrifices necessary to acheive that level, assuming >I even could. Without even knowing you, trust me you and about everyone else(with semi-decent fingers) on this newsgroup can attain it with enough practice. The Piping "world" seems to be alot like high school(as opposed to college physics) in that even someone with a low aptitude should be able to do quite well with enough practice .> I am offended when someone suggests that >it is a waste of my time to try and improve my playing in this fashion. As well you should be, I was trying to point out Mitchell's point , but it seems you already know it. I'm not saying that Mitchell's behavior is in anyway excusable in fact I'm a little apalled myself. The best thing to do in this situation would probably be to ignore the abusive element, Your not going to change his mind and he's nay gonna change yours. The whole "piping" world saw Mitchell's behavior(everyones watching, don't kid yourself), and I doubt any feel unlike yourself about him as a result. Mike - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Oct 1999 13:01:20 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (SENDMEMORESPAM) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: For the lady pipers in the newsgroup......... > Hmmmm....David. Bill. > I believe the thread reads "for the LADY pipers...." > > I know, but who could resist? You couldn't either LOL Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Oct 1999 13:02:20 GMT From: ccc31807@aol.com (Ccc31807) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners >Angus McLellan said something similar to me a few years ago. "A lot of >pipers could do a lot better at expressing the music if they dropped at >least some of the heavy embellishments". > >However...... I won't do it, I simply wouldn't dare.....I get truly >pissed off at those who do chop the hell out of a tune to make it easier >to play. Not exactly proud of my own attitude either but, there it is. In all activities requiring physical skill, from weight training and running to art, including music (especially including piping), you try to do two opposite things - push yourself and coast. You should always try to play harder than you can play. This his how you improve. Attempt more difficult tunes, it will build you up and make you a better piper. Play harder reeds for stamina and endurance. Never be satisifed with what you can do, but attempt that which leads to failure. OTOH, in performance, whether for a gig or in competition, always fall back on the stuff that you have long since passed. Struggling is for practice; easy, facile piping is for the public. If this means that you have to "chop" a tune, then do it. Making music is much too important an activity for you to have to worry about being able to play the notes or blow the bag. Angus McLellan was right! But that doesn't mean that you should stop growing beyond your present level. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Oct 1999 13:26:14 GMT From: ccc31807@aol.com (Ccc31807) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Tip of the Day - a web page?? >shutting off some of the 'lively debate' (as if that could >really happen) that could / would follow each tip. The problem with a "tip of the day" scheme is that the tips by necessity will degrade into trivial suggestions that, while useful, will not lead to better piping. Why not look at something like a "tip of the week," with the understanding that the advantages, disadvantges, and alternatives would also be discussed? After all, a tip like "to cure a high A crow, sand the lips of the reed lightly" would have to consider things like (1) what is a high A crow, (2) is it desirable at all, (3) if so, how much crow is desirable, (4) what are the costs of sanding the lips, (5) are these costs worth the result, (6) are there other alternatives, (7) what is the result on the life of the reed, (8) do certain types of reeds respond to this treatment differently, (9) etc. This, of course, is what we have on the ng. John Mitchell had a post several weeks ago, top ten tips, that was useful and practical. Having ten together creates an overload of a sort, but that is certainly better than not having them. Rather than channelling efforts into a "tip of the day" project, I would rather we concentrate on discussing a "problem of the week" and explore the problem from every angle. An archive is an excellant idea. Maybe a format like an on-line piping encyclopedia. This is a worthy project for you, Bob. Another thing we need: a good, consistent, moderated classified ads site. The Bagpipe Web had a good one for a while, bagpiper.com had a good one for a while, but we need a comprehensive and well-maintained site for buying and selling pipes and piping supplies. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:03:01 GMT From: "Ron Bowen" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: My Mistery Drones Congratulations, Bill! According to Jeannie Campbell (Piping Times) Robert George Lawrie is said to have worked for Peter Henderson (Glasgow) prior to 1900. R.G. died in 1904 at which time his sons took over the business. John MacColl became the manager of the bagpipe department in 1908, retiring in 1936. Apparently he had spend a couple of years with pipe maker Donald MacPhee (1878 - 1880). According to Jimmy, your pipe was made during John MacColl's tenure and reflects his influence on the instrument. There is a picture of John MacColl's bagpipe in an issue of Piping Times (July 1999). It looks very similar to your pipe. If you don't have this, I'll try to scan an image and email it to you. Let me know. This whole thing of bagpipe identification is so difficult. And you can see why, with makers moving from one shop to another, bringing their particular styles and subtle signatures with them. Jack Dunbar speaks of being able to hold a Henderson drone in his hands, (when he worked there in the 1930s on) eyes closed, and being able to tell you which turner made the piece. By the way, all. I'm rebuilding my site and will unveil it in the next several days. I'm going to kick it off with a bagpipe identification contest. I've stuck with more common types with distinct identifying features for the first go 'round. I'll announce the event on the NG when it's ready. Good Piping Ringo Bill Carr wrote in message news:37F73DB6.3E175D08@of.telia.no... > A few weeks back I sent some photos of my pipes to Jimmy McIntosh asking > if he could help me identify them. > > Today I got a reply from him with a Certificate of Appraisal. The > certificate reeds: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------- > > THE BAGPIPE OWNED BY MR.CARR WAS MADE BY R.G.LAWRIE, > GLASGOW, SCOTLAND CIRCA 1926 FROM EITHER COCUS WOOD BUT MOST > PROBABLY AFRICAN BLACKWOOD AND NATURAL IVORY. > THE VALUE OF THIS INSTRUMENT (APPRAISED VALUE) $3000.00US > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------- > > Yippeee!!!!!! I'm over the moon. > > See them here: > > http://business.fortunecity.com/newhouse/855/billpip.html > > > Cheers > > Bill Carr > > > > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:34:39 GMT From: "Ron Bowen" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Good posts from Sunnyboy I will only be dragged kicking and screaming into this dung heap. Pat, sorry, but Sunnyboy came up with this on his own. He was here long before I arrived and apparently had several clashes with Lindapiper. You know only too well that I enjoyed Lindapiper's caustic behavior, biting wit, and uncommon intelligence. It does seem that you have stepped up into the void created by her departure. But then... why am I talking with you. You're not real. I gotta find a couch! Ringo oshpiper wrote in message news:7t81cd$hjr$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > In article <938964333.223612@news.vaxxine.com>, > "JOHN MITCHELL" wrote: > > > oshpiper wrote in message > > > I do have to say, in all fairness, that > > > 'control' from a control freak. No replies, means you are cutting > out > > > the other side of the story, at least. > > > > No replies, means that a response is not required. > > It's just a tip that is self explained > > > > Is that OK with you LINDA PIPER > > John, John, John. You've been spending quality time with Ron Bowen, > too, is see. Such a pity you can't pay for real spies. > > Hey, thanks for the compliment, but guess again. Remember, you and Ron > can guess together again, if you like. I might even tell if you are > getting close. NOT! > > Pat > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:52:53 -0700 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) re: early Goshen results Hey Bagshite: Speaking of whining - when you can stand on the boards without swaying, willie, and get through a set without choking or molesting gay midgets, then talk to me...if you can express yourself in words of more than one syllable. Oh, yeah - I was competing professional in 1972 against Ronnie Lawrie and Willie MacDonald among others - what were YOU doing in 1972 besides playing with yourself? Sounds like your daughter may have some small talent - you obviously don't. If you want to crow about her accomplishments, do it by direct email, or pick up the phone and actually TALK to someone - but playing pipermommy doesn't cut it here or on the boards. IS - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:53:24 -0400 From: Bentley Wall Subject: (bagpipe) Useless, but interesting, NG stats I was bored. I thought it would be intersting to note the frequency of posts by posters and the length of big threads, just to see what we were spending most of our time on, and who was doing the talking. My newsreader maintains only one week of back messages, so this data is compiled over the time period of 9/27 (9am) to 10/4 (10am) in EST. I figured over one week's time, one post a day (except Sunday of course...) would be a fair amount of regular attendance so I only recorded people;s handles who appeared 6 or more times during the week. Also, I only took threads that numbered 15 or more in that one week. There were 871 messages posted during this single week! Here it is: Handle: Number of posts (>5, last week) alex young 7 ALIXGUNN 15 Andrew Hagen 6 Bill Carr 12 Bob Cameron 8 Ccc31807 33 Chris Hamilton 56 dnimmo 6 Don Robertson 8 Doug Campbell 12 Iain Sherwood 25 IMOIR 7 Joe Brophy 7 John Mitchell 32 Lance Hallgren 6 Lindsay Kirkwood 26 Israpm 22 Maeve 13 Marc Dubois 6 Matt Buckley 8 New and Rossmiller 6 oshpiper 36 Peter Anderson 7 Richard Mao 12 Ron Bowen 22 Royce Lerwick 64 Screecher 17 SENDMEMORESPAM 104 T. Charles 8 zudupiper 25 total = 616 out of 871 or 71% of the contributions were made by people that post about an average of once per day. Threads: # of contributions adult learners 50 carpal tunnel 25 celtic classic 22 good posts from sunnyboy 23 helpful hints for newbie 17 Lerwick's hold... 19 Millenium march 17 mouth blown smallpipes 31 pipe chanter 17 Royce is great, top ten etc. 29 Shut ... up and play... 45 steady blowing 35 the right bagpipe 46 tip of the day 21 what's it all about 75 total = 472 out of 871 or 54% of posts were tied up in large thread debates. I just thought it was funny. My boss is out of town today.... : ) Bentley Wall - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:56:10 -0400 From: "JOHN MITCHELL" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: TIPS OF THE DAY(no replies allowed) To respond to any tip, cut and paste and start new thread. (tipsters, always quote the above in your tip) insert tip here - ------------------------------------------------- Practice tip, First play for ten minutes then set the pipes down for 5 minutes. This gives the reeds a chance to settle and it gives your stomach muscles time to prepare for the practice session. Just like with exercising, its a good idea to get everything warmed up, and stretch a bit too. - ------------------------------------------------- end of tip To reply: cut and paste, then start new thread. > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:06:08 +0100 From: Bob Smith Subject: (bagpipe) Tip of the Day Learning new tunes can be a difficult. To make life a lot aesier use Bagpipe Music Writer, you will understand the structure of the tune better once you have entered it into BMW. Set the playback speed to about 50% of normal play speed. Highlight the barr or phrase you are working on and BMW will play either one through or over and over again, while you follow note indicator, and play along with it, gradually speeding up as you learn. more information from the web site, all I can say is it works for me. BMW home page is at http://home.iSTAR.ca/~rmm/index.shtml Bob - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:10:30 -0700 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Useless, but interesting, NG stats interesting to see that the greatest number of posts was put up by the individual with the least experience or positive input - and the one who makes the most wisecracks and puerile insults. Bentley Wall wrote in message news:37F8BF64.64018751@po.cwru.edu... > I was bored. > I thought it would be intersting to note the frequency of posts by > posters and the length of big threads, just to see what we were spending > most of our time on, and who was doing the talking. > > My newsreader maintains only one week of back messages, so this data is > compiled over the time period of 9/27 (9am) to 10/4 (10am) in EST. I > figured over one week's time, one post a day (except Sunday of > course...) would be a fair amount of regular attendance so I only > recorded people;s handles who appeared 6 or more times during the week. > Also, I only took threads that numbered 15 or more in that one week. > There were 871 messages posted during this single week! > > Here it is: > > Handle: Number of posts (>5, last week) > alex young 7 > ALIXGUNN 15 > Andrew Hagen 6 > Bill Carr 12 > Bob Cameron 8 > Ccc31807 33 > Chris Hamilton 56 > dnimmo 6 > Don Robertson 8 > Doug Campbell 12 > Iain Sherwood 25 > IMOIR 7 > Joe Brophy 7 > John Mitchell 32 > Lance Hallgren 6 > Lindsay Kirkwood 26 > Israpm 22 > Maeve 13 > Marc Dubois 6 > Matt Buckley 8 > New and Rossmiller 6 > oshpiper 36 > Peter Anderson 7 > Richard Mao 12 > Ron Bowen 22 > Royce Lerwick 64 > Screecher 17 > SENDMEMORESPAM 104 > T. Charles 8 > zudupiper 25 > > total = 616 out of 871 or 71% of the contributions were made by people > that post about an average of once per day. > > > > Threads: # of contributions > adult learners 50 > carpal tunnel 25 > celtic classic 22 > good posts from sunnyboy 23 > helpful hints for newbie 17 > Lerwick's hold... 19 > Millenium march 17 > mouth blown smallpipes 31 > pipe chanter 17 > Royce is great, top ten etc. 29 > Shut ... up and play... 45 > steady blowing 35 > the right bagpipe 46 > tip of the day 21 > what's it all about 75 > > total = 472 out of 871 or 54% of posts were tied up in large thread > debates. > > > I just thought it was funny. My boss is out of town today.... : ) > > Bentley Wall > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:14:33 -0700 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: tip of the day Good tip, Peter! Here's another one: To prevent clogging your brain with mindless insulting drivel, put a block on your email software for anything from Bagshite - or Bagpiip - or SENDMEMORESPAM - or whatever he/she/it calls him/her/itself these days. Your colon will thank you.... IS Peter Anderson wrote in message news:939049172.25761.0.nnrp-11.9e982e21@news.demon.co.uk... > > To prevent your pipe chanter from getting broken (my best chanter was broken > because I put too much gear into my pipe box) get a piece of 1 1/2" diameter > plastic waste pipe. Put your chanter in one end, measure the length so it > fits exactly inside your pipe box. Block one end off with a suitable > bathroom waste plug. You now have a safe container for your chanter - it > will not bend or crush. > > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:26:34 -0700 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: early Goshen results Oh, one more thing: what you originally posted was an early Goshen RESULT - one place from one event. What about the others that you, in your vicarious basking mode, utterly neglected to mention. if you're going to post RESULTS, do it; if you're going to brag about something you didn't do, just come out and say so. IS Iain Sherwood wrote in message news:rvhfnr6gmom65@corp.supernews.com... > Hey Bagshite: > Speaking of whining - when you can stand on the boards without swaying, > willie, and get through a set without choking or molesting gay midgets, then > talk to me...if you can express yourself in words of more than one syllable. > > Oh, yeah - I was competing professional in 1972 against Ronnie Lawrie and > Willie MacDonald among others - what were YOU doing in 1972 besides playing > with yourself? > > Sounds like your daughter may have some small talent - you obviously don't. > If you want to crow about her accomplishments, do it by direct email, or > pick up the phone and actually TALK to someone - but playing pipermommy > doesn't cut it here or on the boards. > > IS > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:27:37 GMT From: oshpiper Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Bass drone problems In article <7t8bk9$nph$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Hackergirl wrote: > Hi everbody. ... > When ever I try to blow it, the reed goes > too far down my mouth and it makes me gag. > > Is there any other way to test my Bass reed. > > Thanks for your responces > > Christy Use a false stock. I'll make you a "false stock" for free. Just send me the "length" you need - (measure from the bottom of the bass drone projecting mount to the far end of the bass drone reed while it is in its seat), __ |<--measure this distance-->| ______/ \ ( )----- <--Drone Top ( ) |----------------------, ( ) |----------------------' <-- drone reed _____( )----- \__/ ^ | hemped part and the inside diameter of the hole in the bass drone stock "or" the outside diameter of the hemped portion that goes into the stock. Whichever is easier for you. Send it to my 'deja email' account. Pat Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:27:46 -0700 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Ross Canister Bags hard to say. They haven't really been around long enough to determine morbidity. IS woober wrote in message news:C_gJ3.179336$5r2.318109@tor-nn1.netcom.ca... > How long would one expect these to last.Anyone playing them for an extended > period of time?Any problems? Thanks in advance, Mike > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:33:33 GMT From: oshpiper Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Zudupiper Reed Performance --- Tip of the Day In article , toneczar@erols.com wrote: > TIP OF THE DAY: > > If you set your drone reeds so they stop with a bit of overblowing, > they (a) will NOT be 100% steady, and (b) they WILL stop when you > least expect it. > > Leave a little extra strength or fudge factor. > > Chris Just in case someone didn't see this, I'm going to cut and paste it again for ya Chris. Nice information. May the force always be with you, Pat Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:51:28 -0400 From: "JOHN MITCHELL" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners Gaelmann wrote in message > that John is probably befuddled by the whole idea of "playing your pipes in > peace" just as some might be puzzled by the idea of a judge actually... No mike I'm not befuddled at all, I just don't understand why an individual would decide to learn somethng, and then not want to excell at it. If you wanted to become a computer programmer, and started out taking classes in basic, then would you not want to continue and finish the course with a C++ or other advanced language so that you can call yourself a "Computer Programmer" when your done. Then why only learn the pipes half way, finish the Job What usually happens is students get involved with this instrument, find out how difficult it truly is to play, see how much work is involved, then become complacent about their level and resign to just saying they enjoy playing the simple stuff. There's nothing wrong with that, I just get burned when people make the claim that competition is not for them, and the likes of John Mitchell have no idea of what thier talking about when it comes to enjoying the playing. Such as the phrase below. > >fact that some of us aren't driven to compete in the same nature as John > >causes him great confusion. > Completely agreed with. I should also add that I'm completely against the > aggressive and degrading nature of his posts/attacks, Who am I degrading, what specifically are you talking that is degrading? > As well you should be, I was trying to point out Mitchell's point , Yes you did it well, and it was accurate, so why the turnaround. > ......The whole "piping" world saw > Mitchell's behavior(everyones watching, don't kid yourself), and I doubt any > feel unlike yourself about him as a result. Well if that's the case, then the whole piping world would be very hypocritical. If anyone of them can honestly state that they haven't turned a sour ear, or said, "listen to that rubbish" then I must be going deaf. What I have provided was an insight of just how most players think. If they hear rubbish playing by an adult, and realize their just an adult learner. that makes it OK in some sense. that's why the grade system was invented. The higher you go, the less you suck. I've also heard alot of grade1 bands that suck too, but what it all comes down to, is how much work are you prepared to put in to excel at this game. I know that's an inadvertent way to look at this subject, but with any other kind of instrument, the good players would just say, "that guy Sucks!" It's tough to comprehend, but that's the reality of the piping world. There is very little mercy shown here, and there is no tolerance for bad playing or poorly setup pipes! I didn't invent this attitude, it was here when I started playing 30 years ago, when us kids were listening to the top bands and saying who we liked, and who sucked. John Mitchell - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:51:36 -0700 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Shut the Fuck Up & Play!!! got news for you. This is as good as it gets. M3967 wrote in message news:19991002044818.29936.00000506@ng-ft1.aol.com... > >The biggest problem I have with the WEB, is that > >nothing is verifiable, anyone can write anything > >and there's no background on the author. > > >It's really hard to accept some posters opinions when > >you know those opinions are based on very little > >experience, but that doesn't mean I think the poster > >doesn't have a right to post, I'm saying you should > >understand that the information given is coming from > >an unqualified source of limited exposure to the > > >My point is, if you've only been at it for a short while, > >(6 years or less), your still a beginner who's opinions don't > >count for shit, and that's only because you don't have > >the experience to backup your claims. If your in the lower > >grades, then your opinion is suspect to wondering if > >you really know what your talking about. > > >My advice to this NG, is to look at the posters information, > >and then judge for yourself how credible that information is. > >Is the information true, based on the experience of the poster > >or could the facts be questionable because the poster doesn't > >have the experience to make an accurate statement about > >the subject at hand. > > When are you going to give up this paranoia about less experienced pipers > giving advice? How many times do we have to hear about how all of us with less > than six years should have no valid opinion on piping? How many times do we > have to hear that unless we have competed in grade one we cant possibly > understand what it took for you to get there? And how many times do we have to > go over the fact that nothing is verifiable on the web? > > The fact is that most pipers dont even asspire to be grade one. A majority > probably dont even asspire to compete. Most are like me, we love to play well, > we aspire to hopfully get better through the time we have available. We enjoy > being able to play for family and friends and perform at the occasional gig > that comes our way. In wanting to get better we use the web as a limited > source to maybe pick up a tip or two. Some work, some dont. Some are > obviously rediculous, some are wonderful. It is as simple as that. > > You can stop worrying that all us peons will be poisoned by unscrupulous > beginners. Anyone here old enough to log onto the internet already > underestands that anyone can post anything, and nothing on here should be > accepted at face value. > > So if you want to give some advice, I will be glad to accept it, but knock off > the "big brother" routine. It is getting old. > > The funny part of this whole thing is that most of the people on here who claim > to be the great pipers spend more time wringing their hands over what a less > experienced piper might say, instead of just shutting up long enough to give > their own "expert" opinion. > > These are also the very people who wine and cry about what this news group > should be, as they continue to clog up the system with their childish arguments > and name calling. > > If this is what its like at the top, you can have it. > > Mike Baechler > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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