From: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com (bagpipe-digest) To: bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: bagpipe-digest V1 #134 Reply-To: bagpipe-digest Sender: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk bagpipe-digest Tuesday, October 12 1999 Volume 01 : Number 134 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:42:43 GMT From: oshpiper Subject: (bagpipe) Re: On the beat? In article <939580487.612955@news.vaxxine.com>, "JOHN MITCHELL" wrote: John, does the last rat abandoning ship tell you anything? - --------- Leave me out of this, John's responsible for his own comments and hasn't used my identity(posts) for quite some time now .Or maybe you've been away or your specs need cleaning!!!! Then again I Guess you haven't been away with the amount of posts you've written! Lindsay - --------- > Oops, anger management therapy kicking in again! > > IT'S time for a wee pint. So, is geographical relocation in your future, too. Ask your therapist about that if you don't understand. Pat Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:32:52 GMT From: oshpiper Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes") In article <939580492.6505@news.vaxxine.com>, "JOHN MITCHELL" wrote: > Your experience, and opinion are based on the how many > years of playing Bill? One year. Let's see now. "Eyesight" and "years of playing" are now somehow inseparably linked. Oh, no! I wear eye glasses - the end is near for me. > Bill maybe once you have played for a quite a few > more years, then you will be able to form your own > opinion and be able to judge a set of pipes based > on your own requirements. You just keep spinning your circle of manure a little tighter each time, John. > I don't know about you Bill, but I prefer to do > business with companies that have respect for people. Gee, are you saying Jerry Gibson never uttered a foul word about anyone in the pipe making community, or even about his customers? Is this the respect you are talking about, John? Pat Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:38:43 GMT From: "Ron Bowen" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Open Post - No Title Royce, now I know you're pulling my leg. The "Royce writes" quote (from you) was from October 9 in the "Shut the Fuck Up & Play" thread that has been spinning for weeks now. October 9 is hardly "ancient history." You started out shouting at John and then all of a sudden referred to me, and then signed off by talking directly to me. I never went anywhere near that thread! Royce, I think you need a rest. This doesn't look good. How are we supposed to take the rest of your posts seriously? Ringo Royce Lerwick wrote in message news:38016b8e.5577632@news.mn.mediaone.net... > On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 18:58:24 GMT, "Ron Bowen" > wrote: > > >Royce writes (Shut the Fuck Up & Play!!! Oct 9 1999 11:48) > > Yeah Ringo, > >you just keep taking your inside sources from guys the people in the current > >world's championship grade 1 pipe band have written off as "not having a > >clue" how to set up a pipe band. > > You know Ron, in net terms this is a historical document by now. Don't > know why you pulled this quote up now and responded to it at this > point, because it's ancient history and there's not enough context to > establish a response to it. > > Royce > > (Don't remember what or if you said to prompt it.) - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 1999 19:09:59 -0500 From: "Matt Buckley" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners John - Its important to keep track of who said what: JOHN MITCHELL wrote in article <939138189.962500@news.vaxxine.com>... > Matt Buckley wrote in > > > > sure takes a lot of gaul to say what you just said. Hamish Moore? > > > > Allan MacDonald? Gordan Duncan? all dismissed as whiners? Read my posts. This is not my statement. I did say: > > Wrong again, John. I cannot speak for Allan or Gordon. I can > > speak for Hamish, and Gary West, who were in Vermont in > > August for the School. When I asked Hamish about Peel and > > a couple of other bands, he was pretty much up-to-date. You said: > So why the statement about holding competition holding no esteme? Read my posts. I said nothing about competition being held in no esteem by these folks. Gaelmann started the "esteem" topic. > It's an obvious attempt on your part Matt to use these Names > to get up on your own platform. Real Musicians general >recognise good talent in any forum, but it might not be their >cup of tea. If Gordon Duncan, Gary West play in any >pipeband, then the competition must mean something to >them. > John My only platform concerned your offensive remarks regarding adult learners. The folks I listed, some of whom are friends, are simply challenging assumptions held dear by pipers whose only contact with piping is competition. Again, I heard NRP at Montreal and greatly enjoyed the piping, and to some extent the band competitions. You need not convince me that pipers of your level have much to say. However, Gordon and Gary (both Vale of Atholl) and countless others (Dougie Pincock ... Ian MacDonald...) also have something to say, and I plan on listening to, and learning from, all sides. Matt - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 1999 12:38:24 -0500 From: "Matt Buckley" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: "Farewell to the Creeks" From The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: "Creek. A confederacy of several Muskhogean-speaking Indian tribes, formerly inhabiting parts of Georgia, Alabama and Northern Florida." I also recall from my history degree days that the Creeks were the principal object of the wrath of Davey Crockett, Andrew Jackson, et.al. The Creek wars were in the early part of the 19th century, and had nothing to do with the Seven Years War. The Crees are based in Western Canada. The most well- known present-day Cree is actress Tantoo Cardinal. P.S. I am still curious about the title. Paul Gretton - lend some help here! Drew McPheeters wrote in article ... > Uuuhhmm, that was the Cree Indian tribe, not Creek. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Oct 1999 13:24:12 -0500 From: "Matt Buckley" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish Dancing? Bill Carr wrote in article <37FCAB1E.18943338@of.telia.no>... > I'm thinking of taking a course in Scottish Country Dancing > because I have an idea that it might give me a better understanding of > how to play Reels and Straths on the pipes. Talk about a can of worms .... Should make for an interesting new thread. 1. Many argue that Scottish Country Dancing (SCD) has more to with English court dancing than traditional Scottish dance. We do know that it is a relatively recent tradition arising out of late Victorian 2. The reels and strathspeys played for SCD are played at very different tempos, and very different phrasing, than reels and strathspeys played originally for the older, and in my mind more authentic, Scottish ceili dancing. Many threads have gone before on the NG addressing "Cape Breton" or "gaelic" style piping and dance, and the more formal SCD style piping and dance. 3. Perhaps the best approach (I'm trying not to incur the wrath of the more competition-oriented NG brethren) is to learn both, remaining at all times aware that an "under- standing" of SCD reels and strathspeys does not neces- sarily translate into an "understanding" of traditional Scottish reel and strathspey playing in general. Cheers. Matt - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:31:45 +0100 From: Iain Richardson Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Hymns suitable for church play There are some hymns in the Church of Scotland publication "Songs of God's People" that are set to traditional Scottish tunes: e.g. there is one set to "Dream Angus" which of course is a good pipe tune. Iain Richardson. Derek Young wrote: > In article , "Sunwolfe" wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm looking for a few pipe "hymns." Amazing Grace is all I know and I'd like > > to have a few more hymns in my repertoire. Any tune suggestions? > > > > Regards, > > Andre' > > I like "Just As I Am," "A Gift to Be Simple," and "Diamonds in the Rough." > > Derek > > -- > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:35:28 +0100 From: "Steve White" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Scottish Pipeband music Surely its "MONTY python" - you got the stress all wrong! :-) Steve White Willie Carr wrote in message <37FEE210.A4813E6@of.telia.no>... >Monty PYTHON - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:13:47 GMT From: aberdeen Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Info on Lars Sloan In article <7tdpq2$c6f$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, robb1972@hotmail.com wrote: Lars was an open grade piper in his competition days, but no longer walks the boards. He has been teaching for a number of years and the most recent CD by The Rogues is up for a Grammy Award. Many of the tunes on the CD were written by Lars. For a review of the CD by Piper & Drummer magazine, visit Welcome to Houston. All the best, Jim - -- Jim Hudgins Aberdeen Bagpipe Supply Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 1999 19:03:16 GMT From: bdunsire@aol.comNOSPAM (Bob Dunsire) Subject: (bagpipe) Nicol-Brown contest - results+ Greetings, I'm surprised that I haven't seen the results from the Nicol-Brown posted. Perhaps it is just that AOL won't let me see the post - that does happen from time to time. So, sorry if I am duplicating a message, but.. FWIW: 6/8 March Glenn Pocock Heather Scott Bill Weir Piobaireachd Maureen Conner Decker Forrest Linda MacKay MSR Glenn Pocock Heather Scott Linda MacKay Overall Glenn Pocock It was a great contest - well run (perhaps the breaks were a bit long), by may hardworking, friendly and supportive people. I was a bit surprised at the relatively small number of spectators, but I believe everyone there had to be impressed with the event (the playing, organzation, and venue). Everyone (competitors, parents, spectators, ..) was really friendly too - great stuff.. We'll plan to go next year (if Alison is invited again), because it is fully worth the effort and expense. (BTW: Alison was very happy with her bagpipe sound and with the way she played. (except for a note mistake in her Piobaireachd) In fact, it was the first time in her piping life that she was happy with her playing and a judge did not feel the same way (Lucky girl -eh? to go nearly five years before she runs into this 'fact of life'..) ) Bob D. (having too much fun with web pages, including: http://members.aol.com/bdunsire http://members.aol.com/bagpipeweb (Bagpipe Web Directory - 900+ links) http://www.user.dccnet.com/bcpipers/index.htm (BC Pipers' Association)) - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:58 GMT From: oshpiper Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes") In article <7tteh1$bi0$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, John Mitchell wrote: > So PAT, what useful info do you have for us today. > I don't beleive you have posted one piece of > imformative or imaginitive insight yet. You believe only what you think will further an arguement. > Why don't you make yourself useful and > tell me something that I don't already know. I don't have to post another bit of information about you. You have done it for me. Thanks. Pat Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:16:04 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Adult Learners On 5 Oct 1999 19:09:59 -0500, "Matt Buckley" wrote: >My only platform concerned your offensive remarks regarding >adult learners. The folks I listed, some of whom are friends, >are simply challenging assumptions held dear by pipers >whose only contact with piping is competition. Again, I >heard NRP at Montreal and greatly enjoyed the piping, and >to some extent the band competitions. You need not >convince me that pipers of your level have much to say. However, Gordon >and Gary (both Vale of Atholl) and countless others (Dougie Pincock ... >Ian MacDonald...) also have something to say, and I plan on listening to, >and learning from, all sides. I think you're missing his main point though Matt, and that is, if these guys were any good, in his mind, they'd be in conventional GHB bands playing the amateur competition circuit for their own gonad-driven edification, rather than playing real music on real instruments and making a living at it. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:13:32 GMT From: aberdeen Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Info on Lars Sloan In article <7tdpq2$c6f$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, robb1972@hotmail.com wrote: Lars was an open grade piper in his competition days, but no longer walks the boards. He has been teaching for a number of years and the most recent CD by The Rogues is up for a Grammy Award. Many of the tunes on the CD were written by Lars. For a review of the CD by Piper & Drummer magazine, visit Welcome to Houston. All the best, Jim - -- Jim Hudgins Aberdeen Bagpipe Supply Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:41:25 GMT From: John Mitchell Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes") oshpiper wrote: > In article <939580492.6505@news.vaxxine.com>, > "JOHN MITCHELL" wrote: > > Bill maybe once you have played for a quite a few > > more years, then you will be able to form your own > > opinion and be able to judge a set of pipes based > > on your own requirements. > > You just keep spinning your circle of manure a little tighter each time, > John. So PAT, what useful info do you have for us today. I don't beleive you have posted one piece of imformative or imaginitive insight yet. Why don't you make yourself useful and tell me something that I don't already know. You think you can do that sweety! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:28:43 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Open Post - No Title On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:38:43 GMT, "Ron Bowen" wrote: >October 9 is hardly "ancient history." That's when your server got it anyway. >You >started out shouting at John and then all of a sudden referred to me, and >then signed off by talking directly to me. Ron, John, Ringo, Lindsay, it all sounds the same to me. Maybe John posted a reference to you. Three days makes 600 posts bud. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 1999 21:30:16 GMT From: jsloanpr@aol.com (JSLOANPR) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: "Farewell to the Creeks" " In 1814 the Creeks up and rose and redskin arrows through the country flows, Davie, Davie Crockett, King of the wild frontier". It's been 30 years since I've heard the tune but it's something like that. Crockets family immigrated from Protestant Ulster. I wonder if they knew the difference between Irish and Scottish pipe bands. >I also recall from my history degree days that the Creeks >were the principal object of the wrath of Davey Crockett, Andrew Jackson, Jim Jacksonville, FL Yep named for A.J. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:34:25 GMT From: "Stewart Nimmo" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Piob Mohr > Where do I find this Piob Mohr program everyone has been talking about? Pìob Mhór - Stittsville, Ontario, Canada Web-site at: http://www.trytel.com/~piobmhor/ Slàinte! Stewart Nimmo, Maitland, ON, Canada. See my web-site, Canadian Bagpipe Links, at http://web.ripnet.com/~nimmos/ / O/// <|o> /_\ | \ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:54:43 -0700 From: "Jeff Ramsden (MacLeòid)" Subject: (bagpipe) Steady Blowing - I don't get it Hi all - I've seen SO many posts and have heard so much about the necessity of steady blowing.....and quite a bit about not blowing harder for the top hand, shallower on the low hand, etc. ...but I'm a little confused now. I find that I regularly overblow my low A (that annoying squawk), and underblow my high A and, especially, my high G. It seems that my high G is the first to go when I'm getting tired - every time. Okay, so my question is this - am I subconsciously varying my blowing in reverse - that is, do you think I'm actually blowing harder on the low hand than I am the top? Or is it that there is something wrong with the way I have the instrument set up? I've only been playing for a few months, so it's probably more likely to be my fault than the pipe, but I thought I'd check if there's anything that is likely to be wrong with the instrument. Thanks in advance! - -- - ---------------------- Goraidh "Jeff" MacLeod Ramsden Pacific Region Vice President Clan MacLeod Society USA, Inc. Clann MhicLeòid Leódhais - "I Birn Quhil I Se" http://www.macleodpacific.org - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:12:17 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Oil and the difference between old pipes and new pipes >Do the older sets indeed crack less? >If they do crack less, is it because they are built beefier to begin >with? Or maybe the ones with a tendency to crack have long since bit >the dust and only the indestructable ones are left? Older sets, being older, have a better chance of being made from better quality wood (first-growth vs second-growth) AB. But I think it's mostly your second point, that if they were going to crack, they would have cracked many years ago. >Question 2: My Naill chanter, like all Naills, has no varnish. I know >you're supposed to oil Naill drones, but what about a chanter - are we >supposed to oil them too? If so, do we oil both inside and outside? If >so, how often are you supposed to oil it? I wouldn't oil a pipe chanter at all. And you're right about Naill chanters being thin walled. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:21:23 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: plastic chanters >Why is it that the less expensive pipes come with plastic chanters? Is >it just to save money? Plastic chanters cost $100-$125 less than AB chanters. >Put another >way, if for some strange reason you had to play either AFB drones with a >plastic chanter, or a set with plastic drones and an AFB chanter, which >would you choose? Most bands play AB drones with plastic band chanters, so that's a common choice. Plastic drones with an AB chanter? I guess it could be acceptable but you'd need to reed up the chanter to balance the loud tone of the plastic drones. It's all in how you set things up. The chanter's just a chanter, but the drones are the soul of the instrument...to me, anyway. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:27:35 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: On the beat? >SO WHAT your saying, is just play the SAME fucking way, >that you DRIVE your car on the GOD damm highway >at RUSH hour. Is that the way Canadians phrase a strathspey? Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:32:18 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Piobaireachd > It will sound like noise to you if you are not familiar >to you, and when you learn one, it will take you a good six months to >assimulate it. For me, it took 4 or 5 months to memorize my current piob, and another 3 or 4 months to learn to play it reasonably well. If I spent another 3 months on it I could probably play it pretty well. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 02:45:19 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes") >John Mitchell >Gibson player for 10 years now Admitting it is the first step on the road to recovery. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:09:28 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Zudupiper Reed Performance (part 2) After last week's debacle at Goshen, I got a new chanter reed and tinkered up a new set of Zudupiper tenors, this time using a thicker (yellow) tongue material. They kick ass. It rained all day at the Scotland CT games, and these reeds just kept on going. One reed stopped once, and even at that it gave a little advance warning (crackling sound). I only play really well in bad weather, and I found myself in the prize list in all the light music events. Maybe it was my setup (a slightly harder chanter reed). Maybe it was because I used a chanter cap religiously whenever I wasn't playing. Maybe I was just lucky. Maybe all of the above. Whatever it was, I'll take it. Now I'm beginning to think that the thickness of the tongue should increase as the strength of the overall pipe setup increases. Easy reed, pink (.015") tongues. Medium-easy reed, yellow (.020") tongues. I still think white (.025") is too thick for anything but flappervalve stanchions, but that seems to be what MacMurchie tongues are made of. Or maybe it has to do with elevation of the tongue. Or effective length of the tongue. My Zudupiper tongues are all about 1-2 mm shorter in effective length than Wygents. They're also pre-set to have a higher elevation before they're bridled back down. Yes, the drone tops do tune higher on the pins, even with the tuning screws mostly extended, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:10:33 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Steady Blowing - I don't get it On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:54:43 -0700, "Jeff Ramsden (MacLeòid)" wrote: >Hi all - > >I've seen SO many posts and have heard so much about the necessity >of steady blowing.....and quite a bit about not blowing harder for the >top hand, shallower on the low hand, etc. > >...but I'm a little confused now. > > >I find that I regularly overblow my low A (that annoying squawk), and >underblow my high A and, especially, my high G. It seems that my high >G is the first to go when I'm getting tired - every time. One of the most common problems I've seen among novice pipers is not the underblowing or even unsteady blowing, but rather OVER-blowing. For instance, I see the situation where I'm tuning drones in a lower grade band, and some pipers consistently have less than three drones going as I go around the circle. They also have trouble starting their pipes without severe tenor howling. Their drones are hardly even tunable at all due to the inability to get a steady reading from their instrument. The chanter is screaming, particularly on the top hand. I'll take their pipes, and without making any adjustments start them up easily and blow them sweetly with a good tone, all three drones working and the chanter in balance. Their pipes are easy to blow and comfortable. It's amazing ... people without much experience will just blow the living shit out of the instrument ... I don't know if some bad old teacher from their past told them to blow super hard or what ... I see this all the time. So my advice is ... be careful that you're not overblowing!!! Now, to get the Low A and High A in balance ... First, open the reed up a bit so that it doesn't gurgle on Low A. Then reseat it and test it in your mouth (with the scale) to gauge the proper strength. Pinch it a bit if needed to get the High A blow-able. Basically, blow to the High A ... get that to sound reasonably in tune ... check with the other notes ... tune the drones and check with them. Now THAT is the strength you want. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:57:31 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gibson Pipes Update (was "cost of bagpipes") On 12 Oct 1999 02:45:19 GMT, zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) wrote: >>John Mitchell >>Gibson player for 10 years now > >Admitting it is the first step on the road to recovery. Gee, I guess Jake Watson is "recovering" too ... Look, Gibson pipes have some damn good tone, whatever else their shortcomings, and yes I am aware of what those shortcomings are. I'm not saying they're the greatest pipes that have ever been, but have any of you detractors actually heard a set? Geez, y'all are as bad as the Kron-bashers. Notice how I neither bash nor praise the tone of Kron pipes ... 'cuz I HAVEN'T HEARD a set that was properly set up that would allow me to make a value judgment. Now as for their workmanship, yeah I've seen that, and it's excellent. Chris "Does Not Play Gibson Drones" Hamilton ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:11:56 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Chanter Reeds On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:52:46 GMT, glenn@snoopy.v-net.org (Glenn Campbell) wrote: >I have noticed a recent problem of late. The town where I live has >only 2 music shops that carry chanter reeds. Unfortunately, (for me) >they only carry warnock. I have recently noticed a strange screeching >change in the chanter going from high A to low a. I thought it was >because I was blowing too hard, but after testing a few different >warnock reeds and adjusting my blowing pressure I continued to witness >this. I am presently playing a MacFarlane chanter, however I noticed >this on my old Dunbar as well. Can someone on this NG recommend a make >of reed that is free of these occasional sqeals going from A to a. (or >maybe a remedy for the warnock reed to fix the problem) Hi Glenn, 1. Open the reed up a bit. 2. Moisten it a bit. 3. Watch that your fingers are 100% bang on the bottom hand holes when you go from High A to Low A. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:13:28 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Synthetic Drone Reeds >I was wondering if any out there could share their experience with the >various synthetic drone reeds, and whether any one has ant recommendations, If you fiddle enough you can get a good sound out of about any set of synthetic reeds. I think one brand is more "plug & play" than the other ones, but I can't remember if it's EZ or Wgyent. Think it might be EZ. FWIW, it's a lot easier to fiddle with synthetics than cane. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:19:58 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Black Donald's March >I am learning Piobaireachd Dhomnuill Duibh right now and I was just wondering >if anyone plays a Crunluath A Mach variation in this tune. It's does not say >to play one, however, my teacher plays it and from what little knowledge I >have >of Piobaireachd I think there should be one. If you're getting this from the Kilberry Book, sometimes the a-mach variation isn't written out, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:25:34 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Zudupiper Reed Performance (part 2) On 12 Oct 1999 03:09:28 GMT, zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) wrote: >After last week's debacle at Goshen, I got a new chanter reed and tinkered up a >new set of Zudupiper tenors, this time using a thicker (yellow) tongue >material. > >They kick ass. > >It rained all day at the Scotland CT games, and these reeds just kept on going. > One reed stopped once, and even at that it gave a little advance warning >(crackling sound). I only play really well in bad weather, and I found myself >in the prize list in all the light music events. Ha! I only play well in 95 Fahrenheit and above ... :-) >Maybe it was my setup (a slightly harder chanter reed). Maybe it was because I >used a chanter cap religiously whenever I wasn't playing. Maybe I was just >lucky. Maybe all of the above. The harder reed and the cap ... no luck involved here. You won't get as much tonal stability from a too-easy reed. The cap keeps the chanter reed dryer, hence crisper and more stable. Good job, grasshopper. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1999 03:31:32 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Winning for adult learners? >My question to the masses on this NG is how should I feel about winning (or >losing) to young children. In the EUSPBA, grade 4 is broken up into Senior and Junior (over 18 or under 18) to protect the adults from the kids. Starting in grade 3, the age restrictions go away, and don't come back until the Open level, where some Canadian games have an over-50 competition. I was talking to an older Open piper (in his 70's) and he was telling me how he recently got beat by a kid in his 50's at one of these things. >When playing against the younger ones I feel like all eyes are on me >saying"look at that bully,playing against those poor little kids" >Does anyone else feel this way? Never crossed my mind. If anything, it's more the other way. I have to compete with kids in grade 3, and generally they win. Grade 3 around here has a bunch of teenagers in it, and a bunch of 30-45 yr olds, and not much in between. As adults, it just seems to take longer. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:42:36 -0700 From: Paul Hinson Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Tune Search. Gary Nicholas. wrote: > > Looking for the tune, " Alexander McAskill of Bernary ". > > Thanks in advance. > > Gary. It is in Seumas MacNeill's book 2 and in Capt. John MacLellan's Ceol Beag Agus Ceol Mor - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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