From: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com (bagpipe-digest) To: bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: bagpipe-digest V1 #149 Reply-To: bagpipe-digest Sender: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk bagpipe-digest Monday, October 18 1999 Volume 01 : Number 149 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:07:10 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Size Canmore? On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:44:51 -0400, smitty wrote: >I am getting a new canmore bag...I'm 5'8" and built pretty stocky. would >a medium or large bag be good? I understand the large is VERY LARGE. >THANKS SMITTY I'm 5' 7", medium build, and I find the medium Canmore to be perfect for me. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:24:03 -0500 From: "D. MacKinley Riebesehl" Subject: (bagpipe) Ezeedrones are problematic but profitable. Chris Hamilton wrote: > On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:31:05 -0700, Paul Hinson > wrote: > > >I've been using Ezeedrones since June and have been thoroughly pleased > >except for one thing...one of the tenor drones persists in making a > >high-pitched whine until the chanter starts. When the chanter kicks in, > >the reed begins harmonizing as it should. Any suggestions? > > This has been a common complaint about Ezees. Try moving the bridles > back a tad ... that may help a little. > so long as your chanter reed is rather easy. and depending on your make of drones. M - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:38:08 +0200 From: Fred Bronius Subject: (bagpipe) Blowing problems Hello people,

Does anyone have some tips for me on how to get pipers blowing the correct way. We have some pupils at the band and they blow like shit.(some of the regular pipers aswell)
How do you get someone to blow the correct way. I have tryed the thing with the book and we have such a U-thing( sorry i don't know the english name) filled with water.

Thanks - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:31:07 +0100 From: "lsrapm" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Hornpipes vs Reels Gaelmann wrote > Yeah eventually were gonna have to invent a new name for this "style"?. Someone already has. I've seen them in a book somewhere that calls them "Reelpipes" and "Marchpipes" I can't remember which book just now. Anyone jog my memory? Chris Eyre - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:36:23 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: N.A. Pibe Band Association Summit On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:56:26 GMT, "IMOIR" wrote: >Leaders (or their representatives) from all 10 pipe band associations >across North Amercia met for two days to discuss common isses and >challanges. I feel extremely honored to have been part of that group. >EVERYONE came with an open mind and the result will be a strengthening >of ties between the associations ad the beginning of a new culture of >trust and sharing between them. Yeah Ian, but did anyone *important* show up. You know, somebody like John Mitchell from a real band in Ontario. It's fine just to say some representative showed up, but how do we *know* anyone really important showed up in that desolate piping hellhole with that group of lame wannabees from the boonies? Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:23:35 -0600 From: sdon Subject: (bagpipe) Computer question (sorry) I know there are some pretty savvy computer guys on this list. I am at my wits end and could use some suggestions. My computer keeps re-starting it's self out of the blue, or the screen goes black and everything locks up and I have to hit the re-start button to get it to respond again. I can't figure out what is causing this and it's driving me nuts. I have to wait for my computer to re-start so dang often it is really consuming alot of time. Any ideas what is causing this?? Please respond pirvatley. I don't want to clutter the ng. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Don Smith - -- PIPER AT LARGE (sdon@utah.uswest.net) White Peaks Pipe Band http://www.angelfire.com/ut/sdon/index.html - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:10:22 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Why is it ? On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:01:33 -0300, "dnimmo" wrote: > >Sir just drop the chalupa wrote in message ><19991017131735.22499.00000036@ng-cf1.aol.com>... >>>you Americans take fighting FAR TOO SERIOUSLY.................. >>> >> >>Or could it be that, you take AMERICANS FIGHTING far too seriously? >>Seems to me your taking it more seriously than we are. >> >Aw...Bill......you are making me think (again)........ > >naw.....don't think I am.......I'm not forming any new bands ! In my area there *are* no new bands. Just the same guys standing in a different practice hall with a different name. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:09:51 -0800 From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Size Canmore? smitty wrote: > I am getting a new canmore bag...I'm 5'8" and built pretty stocky. would > a medium or large bag be good? I understand the large is VERY LARGE. > THANKS SMITTY I'm 6'1" 195, and I'm about to toss my large Canmore for a medium Ross sealed. The large bag is _very_ large. The size, combined with the lack of a swan neck, puts the chanter at a very awkward angle. The Ross sealed bag has a swan neck, and is less expensive than the Canmore. You might want to consider the Ross. Good luck, Michael - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:58:18 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results of San Francisco bagpipe shop references On 18 Oct 1999 13:04:38 GMT, bagpiip@aol.com (Sir just drop the chalupa) wrote: >John, >What was outrageous was being called an "alchohol and marijuana driven person" >by someone who lives 2500 miles away from me, and has never met me. We often criticize in others what we fear most in ourselves. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:48:09 -0400 From: "JOHN MITCHELL" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results of San Francisco bagpipe shop references Sir just drop the chalupa wrote in message > Like you've done to Kron and Royce John? Pipes you never heard that suck, a > book you've never seen that sucks. Is that what you mean John? It's funny to watch you run around in circles every time someone tells you something Bill. Christ! about this time last year, you were ripping Kron apart, and YOU had the award for the longest thread endurance spiraling with Royce. Now low and behold, 1 year later your a proud owner of a set of Kron pipes, and your even defending Royce. Those two must be having a good laugh at you now Bill. What other tricks can you do for them? How can anyone take you seriously? - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:18:59 +0100 From: "lsrapm" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Piobaireachd set tunes for 2000 barry shears wrote in message news:3809D2FD.68C5@ns.sympatico.ca... > Anyone have the list of the set tunes for the Clasp, Gold medal and > silver medal competitions next year in Scotland. > Barry SILVER MEDAL The Groat Clan Chattan'sGathering Battle of Strome Tulloch Ard MacLeod's Short Tune Duntroon's Salute Hector MacLean's Warning GOLD MEDAL Blind Piper's Obsinacy Sobieski's SAlute Pride of Barra King's Taxes The Vaunting Lord Lovat's Lament MacRae's March Lament for the Dead SENIOR COMPETITIONS Young George's Salute Red Hand in the MacDonald's Arms Sutherland's Gathering Gunn's Salute War or Peace (Gesto MS) Donald Duaghal MacKay (MacArthur setting) John Garve MacLeod of Raasay's Lament (D. MacDonald setting) Chris Eyre - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:35:59 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Learning experience!!! On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:52:19 +0100, "JOHN BROADWELL" wrote: >Was it a very moooooooooooving experience, I've heard cows can clap!!?? I categorically deny any rumours that "the clap" was either given to or caught from a cow. That cow is a damned liar! Chris >Chris Hamilton wrote in message <9VkLOOFFoJUQIq=57l6=OeDEZ4Yg@4ax.com>... >>On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:33:09 -0400, "Lindsay Kirkwood" >> wrote: >> >>> Hope your not playing like a COO this weekend!! >> >>I hope to give 'em a wow, and not a make 'em have a cow. >> >>Chris >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com >>City of Washington Pipe Band >>http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 1999 01:44:36 GMT From: jsloanpr@aol.com (JSLOANPR) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gig Rates >BUT in an area where you can get $300 US for a single piper how much can you >charge for a whole pipe band? > >David > For corporations, 1,500 - 2,000 expecially during the week. Other organizations vary depending on their support of charity / Scottish community / funding. Jim N. Florida - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:26:08 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Dave Brown On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:20:03 -0500 (CDT), DClawed@webtv.net (D. Clawed) wrote: >I'm in the MWPBA (Chicago area). I know lots of Browns, but sorry, no >Dave. I think Bad Bad Leroy Brown is from the South Side of Chicago, though. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:36:37 -0500 From: "D. MacKinley Riebesehl" Subject: (bagpipe) Ezeedrones typical problems--bad attacks with some pipes I just never had success with them. Too hard a chanter reed, or maybe my drone make. Wygents work very well though. M - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:03:28 GMT From: John and/or Lori Gaudet Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Henderson Harmonic Drone Reed Problem It's probably too open, bring the bridle down a bit and see if this solves both of your problems! Cheers, Lori Glenn Campbell wrote: > I have been playing henderson plastic reeds for a while now and I really > love them, however I have encountered a strange problem as of late. When my > band members are tuning chanters I turn off my drones and I find that even > the slightest change in air pressure from me will cause my outside tenor to > start up. This is annoying , but I can control it by blowing hard enough. I > also notice that when I am playing the pipes with the drones, the outside > tenor will begin to release this "hiccup" sound (almost like coughing) every > now and then. > > Any suggestions? - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 13:04:38 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Sir just drop the chalupa) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results of San Francisco bagpipe shop references >What's outrageous Bill, is your willingness >to damage a persons reputation over rumours >of which you cannot verify. John, What was outrageous was being called an "alchohol and marijuana driven person" by someone who lives 2500 miles away from me, and has never met me. Was that outrageous????? Was it???? You nor anyone else whose commented on this thread said a word about it when HE said that about me, but when I (predictably so) return the comments, and you and every other person I've ever disagreed with jump in and use it as a chance to blame me. Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:16:05 -0500 From: "D. MacKinley Riebesehl" Subject: (bagpipe) Bigger is always better, eh? but.......you don't play one anymore, do you?! I prefer the large. more reserve. M - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:20:15 -0600 From: sdon Subject: (bagpipe) Clan Pin needed Does any one know a supplier in the U.S. or Canada that might carry the Smith Clan pin?? I have one, but have never been able to track down another. Any suggestions?? Thanks, Don Smith - -- PIPER AT LARGE (sdon@utah.uswest.net) White Peaks Pipe Band http://www.angelfire.com/ut/sdon/index.html - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 12:56:44 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Sir just drop the chalupa) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results of San Francisco bagpipe shop references >Who is he? The person who your defending. Don't tell me you don't even know who he is... Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:33:23 -0000 From: "paul draper" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Hornpipes vs Reels lsrapm wrote in message news:7ucuak$qp1$2@news8.svr.pol.co.uk... > Not a great deal these days.... > main difference is the number of bars per part: > reels have 8 bars played once or 4 bars repeated. > Hornpipes have 16 bars played once or 8 bars repeated. > > The gracing also tends to be more complicated in hornpipes. > > Also, reels are usually in 2/2 time (ie. split common time) > Hornpipes are usually in 2/4 time. 4/4 and the relative lengths of each quaver pair vary, the first being dotted (or almost dotted) I would generally play hornpipes slower than reels although the ranges of the speeds overlap quite a lot. - -- Paul Draper 0171 369 2754 - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:31:05 -0400 From: "Maeve" Subject: (bagpipe) Learning experience!!! I'm back from my adventure and WHAT an adventure it turned out to me! As usual, I can find the darnedest situations! First . .. I met Wayne (NG) at the hotel he was staying at in Tampa before I flew out. We had about an hour and the visit was lovely!! Thanks, Wayne! Still wish I had known it was your birthday . . . I'm great at throwing parties! I let Wayne play Angus in the parking lot of the hotel :) :) :) Then it was off to England where I met up with a lot of friends. I had the pleasure of meeting John Broadwell (NG) and spending some time with him. He brought his pipes but . . . . well, I didn't hear much of his Glens and almost nothing of his Hendersons. I allowed HIM to play Angus and thought that I was going to have to pry Angus from John's cold, dead hands after I killed him! Seems he loved Angus and wasn't willing to give him back for a while! He gave me his Glens to play but I couldn't!!! So I was pipeless for a while! When I DID get Angus back, John was kind enough to point out a few things . . . did I say kind? This guy was BRUTAL in his teaching! I'm still not sure if I did anything right but I sure learned a lot! I have been working diligently on all of the new things that were pointed out to me. He taught me how to set up cane reeds and we put them in Angus. What a SOUND! Thank you, John!!!!! What a sweetheart! The REAL lesson came later in the trip. I remember a thread here on the NG about cows loving bagpipes. Keep this in mind as you read on. My strongest desire was to play Angus in a stone circle. . . alone somewhere. I got to Stonehenge but it was a very inappropriate place to play, being fenced off and mobbed. I glanced across the street at these 4 ancient mounds in a huge field and thought . . . THOSE would work since I couldn't find a better place. I grabbed Angus in his case and, with a friend, trekked across this huge, fenced open field. . . acres away from everything . .. filled with cows. It took a while to get behind these mounds. Finally, out of view and earshot of the crowds, I took Angus out, roughly tuned and started to play. Remember the cows. I don't think I got one line into my piobaireachd when I heard and saw HUNDREDS of cows RACING across this huge field TOWARDS me!!!!! I mean RACING! Stampeding! THUNDERING towards me and Angus!!!!! Terror gripped my heart as I realized that there were no trees to climb, no fences to leap, nothing there but me and these cows heading straight to me from all directions! I could do nothing but stand there, visions of being trampled to death and making the UK headlines with my demise flashing through my mind! The cows were bawling and running for all they were worth! What a sight!!!! As they got close, they finally stopped and just stood . . . within feet of Angus and me . . . and stared . . . still moo-ing. I slowly said "Nice cows" and moved to Angus's case, put him away and made my way back through this heard of HUNDREDS of cows! And . . . no . . . there is NO picture!!! The lesson here is. . . if you read somthing on this NG about cows, TRUST that there is some creedence in the warning!!!!! DON'T try this!!!! I am still suffering from the memories of this near-death experience!! Cows DO love pipes! It was an UDDERLY terrifying experience!!! :) There is more to report and I will do it soon. One thing that was distressing to me is that my computer bit the dust upon my return to the States. I spent 4 days trying to recover it but to no avail. I had to buy a new one yesterday. But I have lost all of my e-mail addresses and ICQ contacts. If you were on my mail list, would you please please send me a note so that I can return your address to my book. Same with ICQ messages. Thank you! - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:49:55 -0300 From: "dnimmo" Subject: (bagpipe) Tip of the Day for Newbies As Newbies we frequently have problems keeping all three drones "turning & burning", particularly at critical times. P/M sometimes asks you to turn off one or more of your drones........but we don't want to do a parade with corks showing............... I use a stub of a pencil with a bit of hemp wound around it, take the top section off the offending drone, and stick the pencil in the top of the tuning pin.......... Much less distressing to your reed than pulling it out and sticking it in backwards, or putting an elastic around its tongue.........and it can be handy having a wee pencil in your sporran.......... david - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:02:27 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results of San Francisco bagpipe shop references On 18 Oct 1999 13:26:49 GMT, bagpiip@aol.com (Sir just drop the chalupa) wrote: >In some instances your 100% right, I do tend to do that, but this isn't one of >them. John has a very relativist sense of correctness. As long as it's him and his, he's pretty accurate. Whenever it strays from what he knows directly, it's all a load of shite to him by default, and all the rules go out the window. For instance, he would tell you that it's wrong to steal, and praise himself and his own for not being thieves. When the discussion turns to anyone else, he'd say, well, stealing is wrong, and I know *I* don't steal and neither do my friends, but we don't know *you* aren't a thief, and you can't *prove* that you're not, so I might as well call you one until you convince me otherwise. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:04:14 GMT From: pmlerwick@wavetech.net (Royce Lerwick) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Hornpipes vs Reels On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:24:11 -0400, "Blair" wrote: >Hornreel sounds famailiar somehow. Not sure from where. > >....Blair I've thrown that one around for a few years here, but I don't think it's very universal or anything. Royce - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 20:42:40 GMT From: jginmd@aol.com (Jginmd) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Gig Rates I charge by the gig. I consider driving time and level of inconvenience. Weddings tend to run late anyhow so I charge more for them (between 150 and 350 depending on what they want me to do). If you're going to charge that kind of money though, I would recomend you have a considerable number of denominationaly specific tunes in your pocket. >Also - for one on one teaching - how much should one charge - if it >all - for private bagpipe lessons? Whatever the market inicates geographicly. An investment banker in New York is going to pay more than a field hand in Idaho. JGS - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 22:55:15 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: About our public face... >It seems that >only a very small handful (I can only think of two) use objectionable >language >routinely, and blocking these will probably cut out 90% of the problem. And 75% of the traffic on the NG at the same time!!! ; ) Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:55:25 -0400 From: Chris Hamilton Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Peter MacKenzie Warren composer... On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:03:40 -0400, "Jim Price" wrote: > I have a hand written photocopy of a photocopy of the 4/4 March "Peter >MacKenzie Warren". I cannot make out the composer's name. Would any one >happen to know the composer of this tune? Wasn't it Tom Muirhead, a former piper with Shotts? Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Hamilton -- ToneCzar@erols.com City of Washington Pipe Band http://toneczar.freeservers.com/ - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 22:31:23 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Sir just drop the chalupa) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results of San Francisco bagpipe shop references >Bill, Isn't this the shite you and others so >often complain about. Your getting to be >the #1 shite poster on this NG. > > >What did I tell you, Bill? > This quote has been falsely attributed to me, by Mitchell who refuses to acknowledge his mistake (as usual!) so since he's wrong, your comment is un-informed at best. Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 23:18:11 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: judge bias (long) Where do "ensemble" judges come from, anyway? Aren't they generally piping judges? Is there any special training an ensemble judge would get? Just wondering... Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:29:19 -0400 From: "JOHN MITCHELL" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: John Mitchell wrote in message > I bet Allisdair Gillies is quaking in his shoes at the thought of facing > the mighty John Mitchell. Yea, Alisdair is probably thinking to himself right now "I've heard alot about his reputation, but I know I can out drink him, I know I can, I know I can, I know I can" LOL Think Positively Alisdair, you might just be able to do it! ;-) cheers John - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 23:36:03 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Size Canmore? >I am getting a new canmore bag...I'm 5'8" and built pretty stocky. would >a medium or large bag be good? I understand the large is VERY LARGE. It is. I went from a Large canmore to a Medium hide bag and have been much more comfortable since. Like Chris says, medium would probably be fine. They also make a "small long" I think, which is the same size as a medium but shaped more like a sausage. I'm 6'3" and large-build, and I play a medium canmore on my plastic pipes. You might want to think about small, but Large canmore is really TOO big. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:01:33 -0300 From: "dnimmo" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Why is it ? Sir just drop the chalupa wrote in message <19991017131735.22499.00000036@ng-cf1.aol.com>... >>you Americans take fighting FAR TOO SERIOUSLY.................. >> > >Or could it be that, you take AMERICANS FIGHTING far too seriously? >Seems to me your taking it more seriously than we are. > Aw...Bill......you are making me think (again)........ naw.....don't think I am.......I'm not forming any new bands ! David - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:26:31 -0500 From: "D. MacKinley Riebesehl" Subject: (bagpipe) Ezeedrones typical problems hours and hour and hours of practice, but shouldn't you be learning more open class tunes for comp, rather than putting that imte into reeds that squeal to high heaven on the attack. aye, M - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:04:34 -0400 From: "Maeve" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Learning experience!!! dnimmo wrote in message news:s0mtnknur0185@corp.supernews.com... > > > > >Maeve wrote in message <380b2148.0@news3.paonline.com>... > > > He taught me how to set up cane reeds and we put > >>them in Angus. What a SOUND! Thank you, John!!!!! What a sweetheart! > > Just thought I'd repeat this part of your story Maeve..........in case some > of us missed it hidden away in the middle of all the cows !! > > David Yes, David, this was a GREAT part of the trip! No one here knew or would share the first thing about cane reeds so I learned a LOT! The bridles had fallen off because of sitting for 25 years and John taught me how to tie on new ones! I DID IT! And they worked! Go figure! The new sound from Angus was ever so exciting! The cane reeds were, however, a BIT more finicky than my Wygents so I replaced them again with the Wygents until I have a little more time to toy. My first competition is coming up in a month or so and I really don't want to spend the time toying with reeds when I can be practicing. . . which I need a TON of according to my beloved, dear, sweet John (maybe this will buy a compliment the next time we meet!!)!!!! I do intend to buy some new cane reeds when I get to the first games. Being 25 years old, these didn't do too bad but I'd like to fool with others too. More on the trip later!!! BTW . . . . I didn't receive the "Hurricane Maeve . . " post. Are there posts that are missing lately? Love and Light be with you, Maeve . . . . in WARM Florida (and thawing out from the trip!) http://people.delphi.com/terralyn terride@sanctum.com - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 1999 17:14:38 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Sir just drop the chalupa) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results of San Francisco bagpipe shop references >Bill, Isn't this the shite you NEVER NOT ONCE! You continue to say this, it's an outright lie. Let's see the post? Put up the post, or shut the fuck up. Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:55:43 -0400 From: "JOHN MITCHELL" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: John Mitchell Crimmy Crum wrote in message > whoever says john mithcells playing is not up to there caliber is oviosly a > complete LUNATIC, its emacualte on that sound test Geeze, your easily pleased! I've got to get you onto the Judging panel. LOL It pays $165.00 per day plus expenses, but you have to have a name so they know who to make the cheque out too? - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1999 23:46:25 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Sir just drop the chalupa) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: N.A. Pibe Band Association Summit >Yeah Ian, but did anyone *important* show up. You know, somebody like >John Mitchell from a real band in Ontario. You mean to say the piping world is making decisions regarding piping without contacting the greatest authority on pipes and NG's (He says this NG is for "piping info ONLY!, but calls it a "beer tent" when its convenient) in the civilized world? Oh my! How can this be? Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 03:33:01 GMT From: alex_young@my-deja.com Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Thoughts expression and written music In article <7u8f7a$csk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Fernetta wrote: > I agree with this. The Irish session I go to is over run by music majors > so tied to their written music that they get upset when you play real > embelishments with a tune. If what you play doesn't scan with what they > read on their music they try to instruct you on how to read music. They > have no concept of Irish style music or free form musical expression. man... I thought our sessions were rough :D > I became aware of how true this statement is when I was learning The > Factory Girl from Paddy Keenan's Poirt an Phiobaire CD. As I started to > play along with the CD I heard that he was playing the same short melody > over and over but with different embelishment on each time through. It > sounded like three different parts but they were essentialy the same. If you think thats good, learn the "Maid Behind The Bar" off that same CD... Brilliant! Paddy Keenan is represents everything I love about Irish music, he's very traditional in many ways, yet he's such an amazing innovative musician. > > When you analyze some band tunes like Cameron Quickstep you see much the > same thing. And what about Piob.? Definitely. One interesting distinction between solo piping and say, solo fiddling is the number of times tunes are played.... In a fiddling contest, or at virtually any performance, a fiddle will play a given tune twice through every time he/she plays it. Whereas pipers, when they play traditional tunes like the Cameron's Quickstep, Cock of The North, Braes of Castle Grant, instead of playing the tune twice through and making up their own variations simply play the four part version, thus avoiding the trouble of improvising any on their own. This isn't the fault of the players themselves of course, its just that that is the way its done in the piping world in this day in age, and no one wants to break the mold. > There is a school of pipers that are exploring this idea. One person > that comes emmediatly to my mind is Hamish Moore. I have his arrangment > of Dungarthill that was posted on a web sight and it is completely > devoid of embelishments. Very fun to play but you have to put in > embelishment to seperate some notes. I have found birls added to the end > of some of the parts to be essential. Yeah, Hamish is a great exponent of the Cape Breton style. Writing a tune like that; allowing you to put your own gracing in, is really a great way to do it- because it gives you a rough guide without telling you exactly what to do. You can only guess at it until you actually hear it played, which is the best way to learn it in the first place. Other players like Allen MacDonald, Iain MacDonald, Gordan Duncan, and Dougie Pincock have all been important contributors in the move to bring piping back into a more Gaelic paradigm. > When this style is accepted by the judges then you will see a wholesale > change. Until then..... The most exciting piping is to be found in the beer tent :D Alex Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ End of bagpipe-digest V1 #149 ***************************** - To unsubscribe to $LIST, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe $LIST" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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