From: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com (bagpipe-digest) To: bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: bagpipe-digest V1 #192 Reply-To: bagpipe-digest Sender: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-bagpipe-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk bagpipe-digest Saturday, November 20 1999 Volume 01 : Number 192 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 05:51:56 GMT From: John and/or Lori Gaudet Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Bands near Sudbury Ackkkkkk A Comedian!! ;-)) guess you don't know anyone up that way Robbie, but saw an opportunity to get a laugh in! ;-)) Lori Robbie wrote: > John and/or Lori Gaudet wrote in message <382B927A.D230D7D4@nbnet.nb.ca>... > >Hi everyone, > >I have a friend here in Saint John, NB who is an excellent bass drummer > >who is looking for a band to play with in or around Sudbury Ontario. If > >you know of any bands in that area who would be interested in > >him... > > Long commute to play bass drum! > > Robbie - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:11:28 -0800 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Fabric weights The weight of the cloth is based on full-width (54", 56", or 58", depending on the maker) REGARDLESS of the width - so 28" handwoven cloth weight is based on a double-width. 1 yard of 16 oz cloth 28" wide, weighing 8 ounces, is 16 ounce cloth...do the math. Most commercial kilts are made from 12-14 ounce cloth, and are made from 4 yards of double width worsted split and seamed in a pleat - look for it about halfway across the seat, inside. The best made, best quality kilts are made from 17 ounce, handwoven worsted, single width This cloth is usually referred to as 'Strome.' There should be no seam in a pleat in a 'handwoven' kilt. If there is, you've been had... If you want a really well made 7 yard kilt, get a military kilt made from 20 ounce 'Cheviot,' if you can find it. Tartan does not come in 'ell' width. An 'ell' is the length from your elbow to your index fingertip - about 18". IS Steven Akins wrote in message news:IW2X3.184$KU2.1405@newsfeed.slurp.net... > > Bob Cameron wrote in message <38298987.D8E38779@mail.berklee.edu>... > >If I remember correctly, tartan comes in two widths: an ell,(39 inches) and > 54 > >inches. > > If the weight is reckoned by the running yard, then we nwould have two > >different "weights" for cloth of the same density. - one yard being 36x39 > >inches, (1404 sq.inches), the other 36x 54 inches (1944 sq.in). Given the > >above, let's assume weights are per square yard(1296sq inches) Your > sample, > >10.5x70 would be 735 sq. inches. a square yard would be about 1.763 > times > >as large as your sample, so a sq yard of your weave would weigh about 9.68 > >ounces. - roughly a 10 ounce weight. > > > I'm no expert on weaving, but I think I might be able to make a correction > here. Tartan fabric does indeed come in two widths, but these are 54" > (double-width) and 27" (single-width). 16oz. fabric weighs 16oz. per linear > yard, 13oz. weighs 13oz. per linear yard and so on. I have a kilt made from > 8 yards of 16oz. fabric, and it weighs not quite 4 pounds, as it is slightly > less than single-width material in length, therefore, I would assume that > the 16oz. weight is taken from the double-width (54") yardage. Hope this > helps. > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:12:47 -0900 From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations Zudupiper wrote: > >Just a point about you drone/chanter balance observations. Those > >aren't going to be very viable in this format. Unless you're playing > >them back through about 100 watts per channel with 15" woofers that > >is, and even then, it's all going to come down to how you personally > >choose to EQ your playback > > Huh? > > I don't have anything sophisticated at all. I just downloaded the files into > my computer and playe them through the speakers. > > I kept the volume and balance the same for everything. Maybe it's just my > speakers. Maybe it's my ears. > > Are we supposed to go to the trouble of optimizing the playback of each file? > > I don't think there's much I can say about the tone of any of the samples, at > least the way I heard them. If I had to vote for best tone, I'd only be able > to vote for what I heard, and if I couldn't hear drones on a particular file, I > wouldn't vote for that one. > > Based on that criteria, the only files I'd consider would be 3,5,7,8,9,and 12. > On the others, there's no drone sound or it's faint. > > Zu Zu, Go ahead and download Winamp. It's not a big deal, and it has a built-in equalizer. Just click the EQ button to open the equalizer, and slide the volume controls on the left hand side up to maximize the drones. Most of the files can be optiomized this way to enable you to get a good idea of what the drones sound like. The other advantage of Winamp is that you can download the files to your computer and create playlists which will play all or some of the samples in sequence. It's cool. It's easy. It's got cool blinkinlights. It's not a lot of work at all, and I figure that if someone went to the trouble of recording and submitting a sample, we should probably be willing to put in the small amount of effort required to honestly evaluate their file. Cheers, Michael - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:25:46 GMT From: Bill Carr Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone I'll just give my vote on the top 6. This is based solely on my own taste and probably has nothing to do with what rally counts as good tone. First Place goes to #12 "March of King Lewis" Just listen to the interaction between the drones and chanter here. Each note pulls out a different overtone or harmonic from the drones. To me, the drones are not just a background tone to the chanter but they are intricate part of the "presence, wholeness" bagpipe sound. This set up is heading down that road. Why......it's almost as good as the pipes on "Tape for the COP Tutor book #1" (seriously!). Chanter is at a lower pitch which appeals to me. Chanter could have been a bit crisper. Seconds place goes to #8 Shoshana's. Ditto as above, only less so. Third place to #11 MacGreggor. Much the same reasons as above. Possibly recorded too close to the mike thus creating a "hard" tone. Forth place to #13 STB. Again, perhaps too close to the mike but if you adjust the equalizer in Winamp you can hear some of same qualities as above. High G a bit out for my taste. Fifth place to #6 Leprechaun. Beautiful chanter but I though the overall tone was a bit hollow. Drones and chanter somewhat detached from each other. Sixth place to #14 Hag at the Churn. Nice tone without the harmonics and over tones. There was something about the chanter that didn't tickle me fancy though. Too sharp? To Zu, Chris and Arthur........Shhhhhhh....... :-) It's all in fun, right? Bill Carr - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:35:03 GMT From: Bill Carr Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Ivory Hendersons on Ebay STOP! STOP! STOP! I posted the wrong link on this. It should have been http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=198937381 My fault...Sorry. Bill Carr - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:10:15 GMT From: oshpiper Subject: (bagpipe) Re: 1999 GS McLennan Competition results In article <80lsf1$taf$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, lsamuels@my-deja.com wrote: > > > 1999 G. S. McLennan Invitational Piping Competition > > Unofficial results: Do you know who won the "Bagpipe Tune Writing Contest"? Pat Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:30:07 GMT From: oshpiper Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review In article <382C57C4.EBDE4198@aol.com>, Shawn Husk wrote: > oshpiper wrote: ... > > Because, synthetics generally tend to be "not as" susceptible to minute > > differences in blowing pressure as cane drone reeds tend to be. > > > > I have to disagree, cane has always been more stable for me > than any synthetic drone reed I've tried. > > Shawn I won't doubt your experiences. If a synthetic drone reed is set-up properly, I think you may change your mind on this one. Pat Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:00:59 GMT From: "Ron Bowen" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Meaning of Flett from Flotta Learned further that Alex had been PS under Donald MacLeod while in the Seaforth Highlanders. Unable to confirm relationship between Alex and Flett. Ron Bowen wrote in message news:6H3X3.48367$Jp4.72509@news20.bellglobal.com... > The late PM Alex Robertson (Highland House PB, Highland Fusiliers of Canada) > claimed that the tune was written for a relative of his. I'll try to find > out a few more details this weekend at the gathering. (PPBSO AGM and > Highland Ball) > Ringo > wrote in message > news:80hk22$1pn$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > Does anyone have any information about Flett from Flotta? > > What does the title mean? > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:00:00 +0100 From: "Leslie Thomson" Subject: (bagpipe) RE: Hevia' Electronic Pipes? Hola Jose, The fact is that you may be right about the URL but it's is not my fault, Hevia in PERSON gave it to me at one of his concerts. The story is that I was there with some friends of mine from a Gibraltar Band, after the concert I managed to talk to him and was very interested about the Band, tha is when HE gave me that URL. But as I see both URLs are equally useless ;-) BTW the concert was at Tivoli World in Benalmádena (where I live); Jose, if you ever come to the Costa del Sol give me a call. Cheers, Leslie > > > He's got a website http://www.versionmidi.com/ > > I'm sorry but I think that that URL is unrelated to Hevia's > bagpipe. The correct one is: > > http://welcome.to/versionmidi > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 18:42:05 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Playing from winamp > The >rack display shows tunes 1-15 not listed individually but as a group, they >must be in there somewhere?? > >Any offer gratefully accepted > John, On my player I must go to the weird symbol ( looks like this "<><>" without the quotes) in the upper left hand corner and click on it, the pull down menu offers a "play file" option, I click on that and it automatically found the downloaded files for me, then I dbl clicked on the one I wanted to hear. Hope it helps! Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 19:10:23 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review >Why not? is it a national secret,If I'm interested in a product and I'm >going to put any kind of money into it I'm going to want to know if anyone >else is using it and any testimonials that may accompany it,good or bad. Because he's listed them about 5 dozen times, and public testimonials are generally a pay-for type thing. You won't hear Burt Reynolds plugging his favorite wigmaker unless he's compensated, why should an open player come on here and say anything, much less an opinion he knows will only generate hostilities. Try private emails, I did before I bought our pipes. >i'm buying a GM product and I ask "did John Smith buy one?" and the answer >is "I can't tell you that ,it's a secret." or "we've sold alot of these but >we can't tell you to whom." I'll walk out the door and but a ford. Why? Do you think Ford will tell you? I mean Ford will only tell you the same thing. Besides, Fords are junks LOL! > I and we >have a right a a consumer to know if "A" product is being sold to reputable >people or even complete strangers. No way! Your saying a company should turn over their customer list to you before you buy. That's not practical or realistic. > If I bought everything that someone said "Trust me,just >buy it...You'll like it." I'd be broke and have alot of crap in my house. Then make sure you have thirty days to look over, play, listen to, and just check out before you send your money. A confident dealer would (two did in fact) offered to send them up front to me just to check out first before sending cash. There's absolutely no risk even if you send money first, a guarantee IS a guarantee from a reputable company. Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 19:20:00 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone >Myself, I tried to ignore the actual tune played and quality of the playing >and just >focus on the tone. Admittedly easier said than done considering the wide >range of talent in the players. I thought the whole point of this was (and everyone agreed?) the tone, and there'd be no critisizing the quality of the playing? Comments like "Get a new instructor, it's worth the 50$" are very rude, and I thought were not supposed to occur. REF, REF??? We need a referee here! Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 19:27:14 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review >Then make sure you have thirty days to look over, play, listen to, and just >check out before you send your money. A confident dealer would (two did in >fact) offered to s I meant pipes BTW, not reeds. Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:30:00 -0800 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Results, Angus MacDonald Competition, San Diego FULL RESULTS? wrote in message news:80l219$bpu$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > > Here's the *unofficial* results of the first > Angus MacDonald Competition in San Diego, Nov. 12, 1999: > > Grade 1: > > Piobaireachd: > 1. Decker Forrest, "McDougall's Gathering" > 2. Dr. Ian Grahame, "Lament for the Old Sword" > 3. Larry Samuels, "Scarce of Fishing" > > MSR: > 1. Decker Forrest > 2. Jeff Henderson > 3. Dr. Ian Grahame > > Overall: Decker Forrest > > > ################### > Open > > Piobaireachd: > 1. Ian Whitelaw, "Battle of Auldearn #1" > 2. Glen Thompson, "Lament for Patrick Og MacCrimmon" > > MSR: > 1. Ian Whitelaw > 2. John Partenan > 3. Glen Thompson > > Overall: Ian Whitelaw > > > > ######### > PS: I'll post the GS McLennan results ASAP Sunday morning. > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:30:18 -0800 From: "Iain Sherwood" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: 1999 GS McLennan Competition results FULL RESULTS? wrote in message news:80lsf1$taf$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > > 1999 G. S. McLennan Invitational Piping Competition > > Unofficial results: > > Piobaireachd: > 1. Willie McCallum - The Big Spree > 2. Bill Livingstone - Lament for the Children > 3. Roddy MacLeod - Old Man of the Shells, #1 > > MSR: > 1. Alasdair Gillies > 2. Roddy MacLeod > 3. Willie McCallum > > > Overall: > 1. Willie McCallum > 2. Roddy MacLeod > 3. Alasdair Gillies > > Fine competition; some really lovely music. > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:45:53 -0900 From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Playing from winamp JOHN BROADWELL wrote: > I've downloaded WinAmp, got the 15 tunes downloaded, but cannot get them to > play. Press play and nothing, sound is up and working as the demo is fine > and I can play that at will, but it's not what I want to hear!! HELP?? > Please?? > > Thanks > > Slainte > > John B John, In the extreme upper left hand corner of the Winamp player is a little symbol kind of like an angular infinity symbol. Click on that to open the file menu. To play one file at a time, just click on Play File...then select the appropriate file, and away you go. To play files in sequence, open the file menu, then click Playlist Editor. A window opens with a blank black screen area and two buttons at the bottom: Add and Remove. Click the Add button, add one or more files (add more than one by selecting the first and last files of the series while holding down the Shift key, or individual files while holding the Control key). You can also add files to the playlist by opening Windows Explorer to the appropriate folder and clicking and dragging the sound files onto the playlist window. Click Save Playlist As...give the playlist a name - and open the playlist name next time you want to hear the files by clicking Play File...and then selecting the playlist. And Bob's your Uncle. Happy listening Michael - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:25:30 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: PAID PIPERS!!! >It really miffs me, >when I sweat for weeks preparing for a comeptition, only to have the judge >comment something to the effect of "nice drones, well balanced pipe, nice >expression............etc." and not WIN! What grade are we talking here? >I have had adjudications that could >fit on the head of a pin! Me too. >So I guess my >point is, *some* judges need to understand that they need to reflect more >fully, and echo on paper, the value of the performances they hear. You're not gonna change any judge's style of writing sheets. Some judges are known for giving a good, comprehensive sheet with both good and bad points noted. Others, like you say, write almost nothing. Others just note the mistakes. Depends on the judge. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:33:03 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review >I have to disagree, cane has always been more stable for me >than any synthetic drone reed I've tried. Hmmm. When I played cane, I found cane to be more forgiving of slightly unsteady blowing. When I switched to synthetics, it was a tough couple of weeks while I learned to blow to them. They react a little different than cane. For an equivalent strength setup, I found myself blowing one of the drones out when I was playing synthetics, but not when I was playing cane. So for me, I found cane more forgiving. Once my blowing got steadier, the problem was moot and synthetics are fine. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:46:18 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations Okay, where can I get Winamp? Thanks, Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:28:55 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone >Well, the season's over, but I guess I can dig up my whistle and give the >offended party an indirect free kick... > You get to kick em if they don't do well? Kewl! Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:55:21 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Sabotage in Ocala! (long!) >But one said . . . GREAT EFFORT!!!! and the other . . .. GOOD SPORT!!! Those are comments one doesn't hear every day! You go, girl! >OH! ZU! I met Pete! What a sweetie! I let him play Angus. You are going a >great job with him! It was great how me met, the poor thing! He was looking >over some things in one of the tents . . . and I noticed the "If you can't >say it . . " shirt! I pulled on his shirt, he turned and I said "WHO ARE >YOU?!?!?" LMAO! >Scared the poor boy to death! I made DH turn around with >his "I'm married to a piper . . . " shirt. The young fellow said, "My >teacher makes those shirts". "Then you are PETE!!!" I'll be getting his side of the story next Sunday at our next lesson. It's VERY cool that you 2 managed to meet! >We spent a lot of time >together and really enjoyed the day. Fine young man! Yeah, he's a good kid. Good sense of humor too! Wonder how many of my secrets you know now....? He was bringing his pipes (the Krons with the Zu reeds in them) to Fla but probably not to the games.... And the ironic thing is, I met you in the first place because Peter was going to move to Fla and needed a teacher there. His folks did, but he stayed here. And the bum gets to meet you before I do! Grrrrrr! Glad your first time's over.... er,well, you know what I mean Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:55:34 GMT From: bdunsire@aol.comNOSPAM (Bob Dunsire) Subject: (bagpipe) Setting the Tone - Observations Greetings all, I should be answering email.. but noooo, I end up playing the Tone sound files for daughter Alison (ohh.. should I say she is now Pipe Major Alison? yep!).. to see what she hears (huh? you know what I mean.. I hope). I believe that players of higher skill (than I) also have much more finely tuned / knowledgeable ears than mine - and I find their observations to be really interesting.. I have a great deal of fun learing things about sound and piping from my 15 year old daughter (is that cool or what?), and in the spirit ot sharing this fun I write this. No harm is intended... I was not expecting much in the way of observations, because the recording quality, the mics used for recording, and the speakers used for playback all limit the sound reproduction.. but.. having written that, I was surprised at the comments / observations of daughter Alison.. so.. with no further doo: 1) quite good, one of her favorites. e is a bit sharp, chanter sound a bit weak. 2) bottom hand flat, interesting D throw, not too sweet a sound 3) too sharp, really sharp on high notes, unsteady drones 4) good recording, could be sweeter, unsteady drones, dull low hand 5) e too sharp for chanter, chanter sharp overall, weak (easy) reed, needs a poke 6) nice high g, another of her favorites, drones not quite in, really nice chanter 7) drones not in, d,e,f sharp, unbalanced chanter 8) weak sound, peapee (I don't know how to spell that), sharp 9) flat e, sharp high a, g, unbalanced 10) well balanced, another favorite, a band like sound, bit flat, big sound. 11) d,e,b, sharp for chanter, but chanter is flat. nice high a 12) f, g, a sharp, rest of chanter weak 13) d sharp maybe, another favorite, makes other chanters sound flat, a sweet sound 14) strange stuff, can't really tell about chanter 15) high a sharp, d sharp. Her favorites were 1,6,10,13. I hope the comments like peepee, needs a poke and sweet are understood? - -peepee - older weak reeds sound like this - - poke - from reed manipulation tool, long & tapered (handmade) to change the sound (and strength) of the reed, from a poke to the inside - - sweet - the sound she searches for in a solo setup.. you'll know it when you hear it in person. BTW - I am curious as to how many 'ringers' sent in sound files - I look forward to learning more of the details. Bob D. (having too much fun with web pages, including: http://members.aol.com/bdunsire http://members.aol.com/bagpipeweb (Bagpipe Web Directory - 1000+ links) http://www.user.dccnet.com/bcpipers/index.htm (BC Pipers' Association)) - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:30:21 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations >Okay, where can I get Winamp? > >Thanks, > >Zu At "www.winamp.com" of course! ;?)~ Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:39:51 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Judging Sheets... >Does >anyone else keep their sheets? > I do, but I don't look back at them after the season's over usually. It's interesting to see the way the comments progressed from early season to late season, as I got better at playing the tunes. It's probably worthwhile to keep them. One of my students is going to start competing next year and I want to show him some of my old sheets....and explain the difference between a winning sheet and a non-winning sheet. It's also instructive to look at the differences in the problem areas noted on a bad grade 4 sheet, a good grade 4 sheet, a bad grade 3 sheet and a good grade 3 sheet. You can draw a lot of conclusions from that. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:31:38 GMT From: bagpiip@aol.com (Bagpiip) Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Judging Sheets... >>Does >>anyone else keep their sheets? >> Well it depends how often I launder them, but I usually get a year or two out of them. Bill Mar a bha, mar a tha, mar a bhitheas gu brath, ri tra'ghadh's ri lionadh. - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:37:04 -0800 From: "Todd" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting The Tone Michael New & Diane Rossmiller wrote in message > Todd wrote: > > We must keep the overall lack of validity of the experiment fully > > in mind. > > In order to arrive at meaningful conclusions? This is one of my all time > fave quotes from rmmb! No! In order to *NOT* arrive at too strong of a conclusion. (But I'm glad you liked it). Cheers Todd - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:34:52 GMT From: "Ron Bowen" Subject: (bagpipe) Re: The Phenolic Chanter Review Shawn, my preference is cane, however setting them up properly is as much an art as it is a science. Only so much can be taught, the rest must be learned through experience, patience, and a whole lotta trial and error. Not everybody can do it. With bands, synthetics remove a multitude of variables, making overall set-up much quicker, easier, and the sound much more uniform throughout. Also, the synthetics change less throughout a performance, especially given the swings in playing conditions that we can experience. I have a video of the worlds where NRP warmed up in sunshine and played in a downpour. The drones were solid throughout and I don't think that any were lost along the way. We also played Ross bags, which no doubt helped, however I still don't believe we would have pulled it off playing cane. Great comments by all. Ringo Shawn Husk wrote in message news:382C57C4.EBDE4198@aol.com... > oshpiper wrote: > > > Good post, but I might add: > > Because, synthetics generally tend to be "not as" susceptible to minute > > differences in blowing pressure as cane drone reeds tend to be. > > > > I have to disagree, cane has always been more stable for me > than any synthetic drone reed I've tried. > > Shawn > - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:30:44 -0900 From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Setting the Tone: Observations Zudupiper wrote: > Okay, where can I get Winamp? Zu, Good man yerself! Go to : http://www.winamp.com/ to download the winamp player. Cheers, Michael - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:04:41 -0900 From: Michael New & Diane Rossmiller Subject: (bagpipe) Re: Thanks Bill & Chris!! JOHN BROADWELL wrote: > I've tried both of those things, neither works, and I've checked temp. > internet files and tunes1-15 are there, so why it cannot find them or bring > them up I have no idea :-( However, I have heard all the tunes :-) > as I downloaded them one at a time as I was quite determined to HEAR them, > if nothing else. I'll have a play around and see what I can find in the > meantime. Any other Ideas gratefully received?? > > Many thanks > > John B. John, Why don't you download the files again to a new folder (i.e. create a folder called tone on your C drive, and download all the files to the new folder)? Perhaps the problem is in trying to access the files from the temp folder. Bear in mind that wherever you put the files, they need to stay there to be accessible to winamp each time it plays the file, and when you clear your temp folder you'll no longer be able to hear the files unless you moved them elsewhere. I downloaded the files and put them on a Zip disc to avoid using precious hard drive resources. Have you tried opening the playlist editor in Winamp and dragging the files from the temp folder onto the playlist window as I suggested? Do that, and then save the playlist using the Save Playlist As command as per my last post. Bear in mind that the playlist file is just that - a list, it doesn't contain the sound files themselves. You have to keep the sound files on your hard drive (or zip drive) to be able to repeatedly access them. Have you tried using the Winamp file menu at all? If this doesn't work, you'll have to download the sound files to another folder and save them there, then proceed with the Winamp playlist editor etc. Okay, here is the blow by blow description: 1. Open Winamp. 2. Click on the symbol in the upper left hand corner of the Winamp player. 3. Select Playlist Editor 4. Open Windows Explorer 5. Open the folder containing your sound files. Make sure they're actually there if you've got them in the temp file. In fact, if you have got them in the temp file, move them to another folder for permanent storage. 6. Click the Winamp box at the bottom of the screen (on the taskbar) so that you can see the playlist editor window and the windows Explorer window. 7. Select all the sound files and drag them on to the Playlist Editor window. Alternatively, you can just open the Playlist Editor window and select all the sound files using the Add button. 8. Select Save Playlist As...and save the playlist using whatever name you like in the same folder a the sound files. 9. At this point, you should just be able to click the play button on the Winamp player. If not, select Play File from the Winamp file menu and browse to the folder containing the playlist and sound files, select the playlist file, and then hit the forward (play) button on the Winamp player. Michael - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Nov 1999 01:33:17 GMT From: zudupiper@aol.com (Zudupiper) Subject: (bagpipe) High 5 and Reed Pinching The fun part first. I piped at the Ocean State Marathon like I have the last several years. Very well received, and many runners expressed delight at hearing the pipes (lots of thumbs-ups etc). One guy came running by with arm extended for a high-5, and I obliged him in mid-tune! Funny! Another runner came out of the race long enough to pose with me while her friend (another runner) snapped a photo. Reed pinching: Here's the piping content. This is an atypical gig, in that I'm playing almost continually (continuously) for a little over an hour. I get huge rations of crap from the runnners anytime I stop. Anyhow, it's not really cold, I'd say in the high-40's, into the 50s by the time I finished. I'm playing my plastic pipes. I decided to take a different approach to maintaining my tuning this time. In previous years I've played and played, and gradually my pipes got harder and harder as the chanter reed got flatter and finally drones started shutting off. This time I played long enough to get into pretty good tuning, and then when I noticed the chanter drifting noticeably from the drones (usually accompanied by small chokes), I stopped and pinched the reed a bit. Solved both problems at the same time...eased up the reed so the chokes went away, and restored the brighter pitch. I guess I did this about every 10-15 minutes. Twice I disassembled the drones and blew out the reeds, and emptied the watertrap 3 times I think. I wouldn't necessarily want to do this to a great chanter reed because it probably takes some of the life out of it, but it seemed to work really well this time. Still chuckling about the high five. Zu - - To unsubscribe to bagpipe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe bagpipe" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ End of bagpipe-digest V1 #192 ***************************** - To unsubscribe to $LIST, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe $LIST" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.