From: owner-beehive-beemers-digest@lists.xmission.com (beehive-beemers-digest) To: beehive-beemers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: beehive-beemers-digest V1 #49 Reply-To: beehive-beemers-digest Sender: owner-beehive-beemers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-beehive-beemers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk beehive-beemers-digest Friday, July 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 049 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:41:08 -0600 From: roia@mindspring.com Subject: BB: Re: My apologies Sorry? Hell, I think it should be printed in the next Stinger! Thanks for the laughs!!! Roi (former campground rowdy) - -----Original Message----- From: DeVern Gerber To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 6:52 AM Subject: BB: My apologies Gentlemen; My apologies. The previous post was intended for a private distribution list, goes to show what happens when you hit the send key a little too soon..... Sorry. DeVern **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:23:24 -0600 From: "Michael W. Backus" Subject: BB: RE: Re: My apologies DeVern.... Don't be sorry...!!! Your verbiage lent some humor to what is really a ringing indictment of our judicial system. It is a sad state of affairs when people out to share a good time with fellow enthusiasts must think first not of the enjoyment of the sport we share but of the legal ramifications and the "what ifs" of every conceivable occurrence before, during and after an event. I for one appreciated the humor of your message. Perhaps you should share more of your creative writing with the group. Michael Backus 1999 R1100R - -----Original Message----- From: roia@mindspring.com [SMTP:roia@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:41 AM To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com Subject: BB: Re: My apologies Sorry? Hell, I think it should be printed in the next Stinger! Thanks for the laughs!!! Roi (former campground rowdy) - -----Original Message----- From: DeVern Gerber To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 6:52 AM Subject: BB: My apologies Gentlemen; My apologies. The previous post was intended for a private distribution list, goes to show what happens when you hit the send key a little too soon..... Sorry. DeVern **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:48:15 -0600 From: "Michael Clark" Subject: BB: Seattle in the Wasatch Insomnia had me on a ride this morning at 6:00 a.m. Rode to Brighton on the much-neglected K12RS. The whole ride reminded me very much of a ride on the coast of the pacific north west. Mist hanging out in the trees, the sharp smell of pine from the recent rains. All that was missing was the ocean. Temps were comfortably warm at the mouth of the canyon to having the grips on at the top. A layer of fog is hanging about 500 feet above the parking lot up there. Wonderful - -- Mike **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:47:44 -0600 From: "Tom Deaver" Subject: BB: Re: On the advice of my attorney..... DeVern, Are you going to Victor? I'm planning on going and notice that Crit is too. Nice humor. Tom D. PS: don't paint w/ too wide a brush. **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:55:25 -0600 From: "Tom Deaver" Subject: Re: BB: My apologies Crit, DeVern, Roi, Brian, et al, This is the most lively the list has been for a while. Planning to head north mid morning before heat don't care about route, 'cause you 'll know all the great roads. Anyone want company? Tom D. - -----Original Message----- From: FlyinBrian To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:55 AM Subject: Re: BB: My apologies >Kinda like going into a corner a little too hot, huh DeVern. Gets your >heart pumping when you realize you MAY have f***ed up! > >DeVern Gerber wrote: > >> Gentlemen; >> >> My apologies. The previous post was intended for a private >> distribution list, goes to show what happens when you hit the send >> key a little too soon..... >> >> Sorry. >> >> DeVern >> >> ************************************************************ **** >> The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List >> http://www.beehive-beemers.org >> ************************************************************ **** > > >*********************************************************** ***** >The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List >http://www.beehive-beemers.org >*********************************************************** ***** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:00:44 -0600 From: "Tom Deaver" Subject: BB: Re: Seattle in the Wasatch Tis good to be on the road. I took Max to lunch couple of weeks ago and ended up to a little jaunt round Bear Lake, about 450 miles after Easst Canyon, Trappers Loop Monte Cristo, etc. (I tooold you I stutter) Tom - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Clark To: Beehive Beemers Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 8:48 AM Subject: BB: Seattle in the Wasatch >Insomnia had me on a ride this morning at 6:00 a.m. Rode to Brighton on the >much-neglected K12RS. The whole ride reminded me very much of a ride on the >coast of the pacific north west. Mist hanging out in the trees, the sharp >smell of pine from the recent rains. All that was missing was the ocean. > >Temps were comfortably warm at the mouth of the canyon to having the grips >on at the top. A layer of fog is hanging about 500 feet above the parking >lot up there. > >Wonderful > >-- Mike > >*********************************************************** ***** >The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List >http://www.beehive-beemers.org >*********************************************************** ***** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 99 10:26:41 -0600 From: "Richard K. Sager" Subject: Re: BB: On the advice of my attorney..... That was worth a $15 membership fee, all by itself. Really. I'm waiting to see the "Turn around and shit at your own risk" ammendment to the club by-laws. When's the next board meeting? By the way, I'll be joining the group in Victor on Saturday. I'll spend Friday night with family in Smoot, WY, and ride to Victor early Sat AM. I'll make my own espresso, thanks. See you there, Ken Sager - -----DeVern wrote: >Well, it's really coming down now. Read your latest copy of the Stinger. Seems this group has gotten to the point where we can't turn around and shit without checking with "my lawyer" and getting an opinion as to the legality and liability of it all. Yessiree bob, I can see the lawsuits coming now: ****snip**** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:04:46 EDT From: STaylor326@aol.com Subject: Re: BB: Re: On the advice of my attorney..... I saw a note earlier from Jeb Berg saying he was going up and looking for companions. I am a maybe - if my daughter can join me two-up on the LT. She may have committments here in which case I've got to look for stuff to do around here with her. Still, Jeb... or anybody.... on Friday... what is a good meeting time and place to join up with you? I'll be starting from Park City. Steve Taylor **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:00:27 -0600 From: Robert H Jensen Subject: BB: Re: My apologies Another " classic DeVern" commentary (.Keep it up Bid d .) On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:23:24 -0600 "Michael W. Backus" writes: >DeVern.... > >Don't be sorry...!!! Your verbiage lent some humor to what is really a > >ringing indictment of our judicial system. It is a sad state of >affairs >when people out to share a good time with fellow enthusiasts must >think >first not of the enjoyment of the sport we share but of the legal >ramifications and the "what ifs" of every conceivable occurrence >before, >during and after an event. I for one appreciated the humor of your >message. >Perhaps you should share more of your creative writing with the group. > >Michael Backus >1999 R1100R > >-----Original Message----- >From: roia@mindspring.com [SMTP:roia@mindspring.com] >Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:41 AM >To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: BB: Re: My apologies > >Sorry? Hell, I think it should be printed in the next Stinger! >Thanks for >the laughs!!! > >Roi >(former campground rowdy) > >-----Original Message----- >From: DeVern Gerber >To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com > >Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 6:52 AM >Subject: BB: My apologies > > >Gentlemen; > >My apologies. The previous post was intended for a private >distribution list, goes to show what happens when you hit the send >key a little too soon..... > >Sorry. > >DeVern > > >**************************************************************** >The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List >http://www.beehive-beemers.org >**************************************************************** > > >**************************************************************** >The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List >http://www.beehive-beemers.org >**************************************************************** > >**************************************************************** >The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List >http://www.beehive-beemers.org >**************************************************************** ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:18:02 EDT From: STaylor326@aol.com Subject: BB: Park City Motorcycle Week Volunteers This morning, on behalf of the Park City Motorcycle Club (PCMC), I approached Thane about engaging the BB's active support to assist in the upcoming production, Sept. 16-19, 1999, of a major American Historic Racing Motorcycle Ass'n (AHRMA)event. I am acting Vice President of the Club, a member of the Executive Board, and club interface for the Trials events on Thursday September 16th (I am also a proud Beehive Beemer). So, while with my executive board hat on I want to encourage BB members to volunteer for any segment of the Park City Motor Cycle Week event for which they have interest, my own interest is selfish. We need observers, judges, gate managers etc. for the Trials events. I have had requests from club's out of state to participate as volunteers for this event, however, before we confirm that source, we'd like to ensure that our Utah Club's have first and full opportunity to participate. So, I'll tout the Trials in this note. Details of how to volunteer are found on the club's website: www.parkcitymotorcycle.org. But, here's a digest as it pertains to the Trials volunteer. For a free pass for the remainder of the week - including motocross, flat track, and road race a trials volunteer must: 1. Attend a Wednesday evening barbeque. 2. Post/during barbeque - receive training on how to judge a trials event 3. Optional - pre barbeque - attend trials clinic put on by AHRMA (great opportunity) 4. Work 8 hours on Thursday assisting AHRMA judge events, manning gates etc. (lunch, drinks for the day provided). I think this is a real "two-fer." On the one hand a free pass to three of the four major events for the week. On the other hand, a volunteer gets to build a knowledge of the whole Trials discipline. Its fascinating. I walked the 12 sections of the Steamboat venue last year. I've also found getting acquainted with our local Trials community - CZ Bob in Logan, Dave Wand at Rimrock Racing, Brad Burnton, Head of Wasatch ials Assn. (still exchanging calls) and others as extremely interesting. Among others, I've found that a 275 pound 6''7" "oversized person" can ride one of these bikes. And, I'm interested! Mike Fenner of AHRMA wants to do an unprecedented 16 sections at Park City and expects a record 200 entrants from around the United States. HOW DO I VOLUNTEER? The volunteer signup sheet is on the website, along with procedures to enroll. If I'm up in Victor, I'll bring some forms. I want to personally keep track of the Trials volunteers so it is OK to fax them to me at 435 649 3951. I'll acknowledge receipt, and ensure you are properly registered. I will also add you to my Trials email broadcast list to keep you well informed of the issues, interesting facits, etc. of Motorcycle Week. I hope you can help out. Jeb/Tom, Thane suggested that if I can make it to Victor, you would give me a couple of minutes to tout this in person. I am happy to answer any questions via this list as well. PS. Thane said he wanted to sign up. This is a great opportunity to be a player in Utah's first major motorcycle event. We need your help! Steve Taylor **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:34:51 -0600 From: Jeb Berg Subject: BB: RE: My apologies DeVern, No apologies necessary as far as I am concerned. You really need to publish an editorial in each Stinger! You are right on the mark! and the entire matter really pisses me off that I had to have the concern brought to me in the first place. - ---------- From: DeVern Gerber[SMTP:gerberd@mtwest.net] Reply To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 6:52 AM To: beehive-beemers@lists.xmission.com Subject: BB: My apologies Gentlemen; My apologies. The previous post was intended for a private distribution list, goes to show what happens when you hit the send key a little too soon..... Sorry. DeVern **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 20:42:51 -0600 From: "Robert D. Mabey" Subject: BB: Park City Trials Steve: I'd like to help somewhere and the trials competition sounds fun and interesting so sign me up. I assume that we will be insured. There are days that I don't even get out of bed if my attorney advises against it. Bob Mabey **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 08:10:22 -0600 From: FlyinBrian Subject: BB: Yahoo - Ducati races on Harley rumours, denies talks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------25B632FC5DA8250E9062AEE8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/990708/bbq.html To all you Ducati owners out there, thought you'd be interested in this. 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MILAN, July 8 (Reuters) - - Shares in luxury motorcycle maker Ducati rose sharply on Thursday on speculation another biking legend Harley Davidson (NYSE:HDI - - news) was ready to make a bid, but the rally sputtered when Ducati denied there were talks.

Four months after the Italian company floated on the Milan bourse, Ducati saw its shares soar as much as six percent as investors pounced on a newspaper report that a tie-up between the two classic motorbike brands would make perfect sense.

``Neither Ducati nor its principal shareholder TPG have had any contacts with Harley Davidson concerning a possible acquisition of an interest in Ducati,'' Managing Director Federico Minoli said in a statement.

The remarks disappointed an Italian market buzzing with almost every kind of merger talk this year, sending Ducati shares back to close 1.2 percent up on the day at 2.95 euros.

But investors remain aware that Ducati has all but asked its transatlantic rival to knock at the door, telling markets an alliance between Ducati and Harley Davidson would be ideal.

``Our brands are so complementary that from every standpoint if Harley wanted to buy us, I don't think we could say no,'' Minoli told financial daily Il Sole in a recent interview.

On Thursday, the same paper reported rumours were rife on Wall Street that Harley Davidson could at last be interested in buying Ducati, which has a market value of $400 million.

There was no immediate comment from Milwaukee-based Harley.

Known as the Ferrari of motorcycling, Ducati was listed on the bourse after an oversubscribed public offering in March at a price of 2.9 euros.

But the shares have had a mixed ride since their debut when they got off to a slow start, swerving between 2.49 euros and 2.99 euros. Italian traders mostly express confidence the shares will perform, however, as one of Italy's few glamour stocks.

``It's a sexy name, everyone will want to own a bit of it,'' a Milan-based trader said following the initial public offering.

On the downside, traders say Ducati has been exposed to the economic crisis in Asia and that interest in the flotation had been hit by the partial seizure of Italian markets during a wave of complicated deals in telecoms and banking.

Founded in 1926, Ducati sells its high-speed racing-inspired motorcycles in more than 40 countries worldwide.

In the first quarter of 1999 Ducati saw its registrations rise 11 percent to 6,915 compared with the same period a year ago, and in key German and North American markets, units sold rose nearly 50 percent and 40 percent respectively.

At the company's stock market launch in Milan and New York Minoli said Ducati was planning to invest a ``significant'' amount of the money raised in expanding its accessories line and in May it opened its first North American showroom, featuring leather biking gear by top designer Donna Karan (NYSE:DK - - news).


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Question= s or Comments? - --------------25B632FC5DA8250E9062AEE8-- **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:45:25 -0600 From: "DeVern Gerber" Subject: Re: BB: Yahoo - Ducati races on Harley rumours, denies talks boundary="------------25B632FC5DA8250E9062AEE8" Actually, this WOULD be a merger that made sense. Harley's financial backing and dealer network would give Ducati a more solid footing in the everyday motorcycle market, while Ducati's lineup would give Harley something they've never been able to build for the mass market--a true sporting machine. It would take a while to straighten out the apparel and accessory end of the business, however. How do you spell "show your tits" in Italian on a tee- shirt??? And would we see a Harley-Davidson pasta that we could wash down with a Harley-Davidson beer?? And what, pray tell, would the new products be called?? Harley-Ducati?? Ducati- Davidson?? DeVern On 9 Jul 99, at 8:10, FlyinBrian wrote: > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/990708/bbq.html > > > > To all you Ducati owners out there, thought you'd be interested in this. > Be careful what you say about those "other" brands, you could wake up one > day finding yourselves owning a Harley-Davidson! > DeVern Gerber gerberd@mtwest.net '83 R80ST '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 10:48:26 -0400 From: Michael Scott Subject: Re: BB: Yahoo - Ducati races on Harley rumours, denies talks boundary="------------25B632FC5DA8250E9062AEE8" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------1B5A7C7847DFD82BCE2B7652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You don't think that Harley's "Buell" line is doing very well??? DeVern Gerber wrote: > Actually, this WOULD be a merger that made sense. Harley's > financial backing and dealer network would give Ducati a more solid > footing in the everyday motorcycle market, while Ducati's lineup > would give Harley something they've never been able to build for the > mass market--a true sporting machine. It would take a while to > straighten out the apparel and accessory end of the business, > however. How do you spell "show your tits" in Italian on a tee- > shirt??? And would we see a Harley-Davidson pasta that we could > wash down with a Harley-Davidson beer?? And what, pray tell, > would the new products be called?? Harley-Ducati?? Ducati- > Davidson?? > > DeVern > > On 9 Jul 99, at 8:10, FlyinBrian wrote: > > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/990708/bbq.html > > > > > > > > To all you Ducati owners out there, thought you'd be interested in this. > > Be careful what you say about those "other" brands, you could wake up one > > day finding yourselves owning a Harley-Davidson! > > > > DeVern Gerber > gerberd@mtwest.net > > '83 R80ST > '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) > Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! > > **************************************************************** > The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List > http://www.beehive-beemers.org > **************************************************************** - -- ===================== Michael Scott [C_Tech Volunteer - Quattro Pro] Please post replies ONLY to the Newsgroup. Unsolicited e-mail messages/attachments will be deleted w/o response. - --------------1B5A7C7847DFD82BCE2B7652 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="michael.scott.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Michael Scott Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="michael.scott.vcf" begin:vcard n:Scott;Michael x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http:\\www.graphon.com org:jBridge Division; version:2.1 email;internet:Michael.Scott@Graphon.Com title:Software Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;=0D=0A=0D=0AGraphOn Corporation=0D=0A
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YES UNDER AHRMA/AMA BLANKET LIABILITY POLICY There are days that I don't even get out of bed if my attorney advises against it. ITS A NEW WORLD. :-) Bob Mabey >> **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:53:56 -0600 From: "DeVern Gerber" Subject: Re: BB: Yahoo - Ducati races on Harley rumours, denies talks boundary="------------25B632FC5DA8250E9062AEE8" No. They're not. Have you seen the latest recall notice??? They are recalling practically every machine built for a variety of problems. I watched Fran Crane try to haul one to the finish line in both the 1088 and the '97 Iron Butt. Mechanical DNF in both cases. As if that weren't enough, any decent Japanese sportbike built in this decade will run and hide from the Buell on a snaky road, and for 2/3 the money or less. No, they're not doing so hot IMHO. DeVern On 9 Jul 99, at 10:48, Michael Scott wrote: > You don't think that Harley's "Buell" line is doing very well??? > > DeVern Gerber wrote: > > > Actually, this WOULD be a merger that made sense. Harley's > > financial backing and dealer network would give Ducati a more solid > > footing in the everyday motorcycle market, while Ducati's lineup would > > give Harley something they've never been able to build for the mass > > market--a true sporting machine. It would take a while to straighten > > out the apparel and accessory end of the business, however. How do you > > spell "show your tits" in Italian on a tee- shirt??? And would we see a > > Harley-Davidson pasta that we could wash down with a Harley-Davidson > > beer?? And what, pray tell, would the new products be called?? > > Harley-Ducati?? Ducati- Davidson?? > > > > DeVern > > > > On 9 Jul 99, at 8:10, FlyinBrian wrote: > > > > > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/990708/bbq.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To all you Ducati owners out there, thought you'd be interested in > > > this. Be careful what you say about those "other" brands, you could > > > wake up one day finding yourselves owning a Harley-Davidson! > > > > > > > DeVern Gerber > > gerberd@mtwest.net > > > > '83 R80ST > > '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) > > Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! > > > > **************************************************************** > > The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List > > http://www.beehive-beemers.org > > **************************************************************** > > -- > ===================== > Michael Scott [C_Tech Volunteer - Quattro Pro] > > Please post replies ONLY to the Newsgroup. Unsolicited e-mail > messages/attachments will be deleted w/o response. > > DeVern Gerber gerberd@mtwest.net '83 R80ST '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 13:11:35 -0600 From: FlyinBrian Subject: Re: BB: Yahoo - Ducati races on Harley rumours, denies talks boundary="------------25B632FC5DA8250E9062AEE8" But what about the pretty colors they come in? DeVern Gerber wrote: > No. They're not. Have you seen the latest recall notice??? They > are recalling practically every machine built for a variety of > problems. I watched Fran Crane try to haul one to the finish line in > both the 1088 and the '97 Iron Butt. Mechanical DNF in both > cases. As if that weren't enough, any decent Japanese sportbike > built in this decade will run and hide from the Buell on a snaky > road, and for 2/3 the money or less. No, they're not doing so hot > IMHO. > > DeVern > > On 9 Jul 99, at 10:48, Michael Scott wrote: > > > You don't think that Harley's "Buell" line is doing very well??? > > > > DeVern Gerber wrote: > > > > > Actually, this WOULD be a merger that made sense. Harley's > > > financial backing and dealer network would give Ducati a more solid > > > footing in the everyday motorcycle market, while Ducati's lineup would > > > give Harley something they've never been able to build for the mass > > > market--a true sporting machine. It would take a while to straighten > > > out the apparel and accessory end of the business, however. How do you > > > spell "show your tits" in Italian on a tee- shirt??? And would we see a > > > Harley-Davidson pasta that we could wash down with a Harley-Davidson > > > beer?? And what, pray tell, would the new products be called?? > > > Harley-Ducati?? Ducati- Davidson?? > > > > > > DeVern > > > > > > On 9 Jul 99, at 8:10, FlyinBrian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/990708/bbq.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To all you Ducati owners out there, thought you'd be interested in > > > > this. Be careful what you say about those "other" brands, you could > > > > wake up one day finding yourselves owning a Harley-Davidson! > > > > > > > > > > DeVern Gerber > > > gerberd@mtwest.net > > > > > > '83 R80ST > > > '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) > > > Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! > > > > > > **************************************************************** > > > The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List > > > http://www.beehive-beemers.org > > > **************************************************************** > > > > -- > > ===================== > > Michael Scott [C_Tech Volunteer - Quattro Pro] > > > > Please post replies ONLY to the Newsgroup. Unsolicited e-mail > > messages/attachments will be deleted w/o response. > > > > > > DeVern Gerber > gerberd@mtwest.net > > '83 R80ST > '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) > Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! > > **************************************************************** > The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List > http://www.beehive-beemers.org > **************************************************************** **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:51:04 -0600 From: "DeVern Gerber" Subject: Re: BB: Yahoo - Ducati races on Harley rumours, denies talks boundary="------------25B632FC5DA8250E9062AEE8" Gee, I guess you're right, that DOES make up for it all... DeVern On 9 Jul 99, at 13:11, FlyinBrian wrote: > But what about the pretty colors they come in? > > DeVern Gerber wrote: > > > No. They're not. Have you seen the latest recall notice??? They > > are recalling practically every machine built for a variety of > > problems. I watched Fran Crane try to haul one to the finish line in > > both the 1088 and the '97 Iron Butt. Mechanical DNF in both cases. As > > if that weren't enough, any decent Japanese sportbike built in this > > decade will run and hide from the Buell on a snaky road, and for 2/3 the > > money or less. No, they're not doing so hot IMHO. > > > > DeVern > > > > On 9 Jul 99, at 10:48, Michael Scott wrote: > > > > > You don't think that Harley's "Buell" line is doing very well??? > > > > > > DeVern Gerber wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, this WOULD be a merger that made sense. Harley's > > > > financial backing and dealer network would give Ducati a more solid > > > > footing in the everyday motorcycle market, while Ducati's lineup > > > > would give Harley something they've never been able to build for the > > > > mass market--a true sporting machine. It would take a while to > > > > straighten out the apparel and accessory end of the business, > > > > however. How do you spell "show your tits" in Italian on a tee- > > > > shirt??? And would we see a Harley-Davidson pasta that we could > > > > wash down with a Harley-Davidson beer?? And what, pray tell, would > > > > the new products be called?? Harley-Ducati?? Ducati- Davidson?? > > > > > > > > DeVern > > > > > > > > On 9 Jul 99, at 8:10, FlyinBrian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/990708/bbq.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To all you Ducati owners out there, thought you'd be interested in > > > > > this. Be careful what you say about those "other" brands, you > > > > > could wake up one day finding yourselves owning a Harley-Davidson! > > > > > > > > > > > > > DeVern Gerber > > > > gerberd@mtwest.net > > > > > > > > '83 R80ST > > > > '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) > > > > Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! > > > > > > > > **************************************************************** The > > > > Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org > > > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > -- > > > ===================== > > > Michael Scott [C_Tech Volunteer - Quattro Pro] > > > > > > Please post replies ONLY to the Newsgroup. Unsolicited e-mail > > > messages/attachments will be deleted w/o response. > > > > > > > > > > DeVern Gerber > > gerberd@mtwest.net > > > > '83 R80ST > > '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) > > Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! > > > > **************************************************************** > > The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List > > http://www.beehive-beemers.org > > **************************************************************** > > > **************************************************************** > The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List > http://www.beehive-beemers.org > **************************************************************** > DeVern Gerber gerberd@mtwest.net '83 R80ST '95 R1100RSL (Das Amsdel) Fliegen Sie Hoch und Schnell! **************************************************************** The Beehive Beemers Internet Mailing List http://www.beehive-beemers.org **************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of beehive-beemers-digest V1 #49 ************************************