From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #18 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Monday, April 14 1997 Volume 01 : Number 018 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow Re: BUFFY: Rosie Today BUFFY: Rosie show Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. BUFFY: A Buffy Newsgroup Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow BUFFY: Buffy Segment mention on Inside Weekend Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow BUFFY: Buffy in Cinefantastique Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow BUFFY: The Pack Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. Re: BUFFY: Buffy Segment mention on Inside Weekend Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow Re: BUFFY: The Pack BUFFY: Character guides Re: BUFFY: Buffy Segment mention on Inside Weekend Re: BUFFY: A Buffy Newsgroup BUFFY: No Inside Edition!!! BUFFY: Malleus Maleficarum BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar Re: BUFFY: The Pack Re: BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar Re: BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. BUFFY: Next Watcher? Willow BUFFY: ARGH! No mention of ASH or Alyson on IE! :PPPP Re: BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar BUFFY: Buffy's mother and previous slayer Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. BUFFY: Fwd: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer (Renewed for next year) See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:59:17 +0000 From: "WorstWitch" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow > devices for which we would see a different side of Willow? > Possession by an animal, vampire, or succubus (the last of which > would be VERY interesting...)? Put under a spell or curse? I'd settle for drunk (against her will, of course) - I'd love to hear some of that girl's unspoken thoughts ... a love potion that gave her the hots for the first creature she locked eyes on might be interesting. Or the old "bolt of lightening gets her temporarily swapped with the Slayer" trick. Walk a mile in Buffy's shoes (boots...whatever)? Noooo thanks ..... Posession by an alien life form ... the cliches go on forever. I'd like to see 'em all!!! How many hours is it to tonights ep, all you US Angel fans ...? WorstWitch - --------------------------------------------- WorstWitch's "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" Pages http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1497/index.html - --------------------------------- Giles Appreciation Society Panter Mopper of Brow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Raymond M. Kowalski" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Rosie Today On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Patrick A. Kampman wrote: > I don't know if the shows are different by location, but for what it's > worth my local newspapers' (San Jose Mercury News) television listing > for the Rosie show today at 3:00pm (and 4:00pm on another station) > reads > > 3:00pm Rosie O'Donnell, Ch.7: "Richard Simmons; Mint Condition; Sarah > Michelle Gellar ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer")" > > So it LOOKS like there will be a Buffy trilogy (Rosie, indide edition, > and of course BTVS) > > -patrick > HI Patrick, don't get your hopes up about Sarah being on Rosie. It already aired here at ten in the morning and Sarah wasn't on it. She was also not mentioned for the Tuesday or Wednesday show. I was really disappointed because I thought it would be so cool to have her on there for her birthday. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:14:27 -0500 (CDT) From: kampman@ix.netcom.com (Patrick A. Kampman) Subject: BUFFY: Rosie show Disregard my last post. The Rosie O'Donnell web page has removed SMG and replaced her with Diane Lane (s.p.?) for todays ep. Maybe they'll re-schedule? cya, patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:16:43 -0700 From: Watchers@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. andrew stellman wrote: > excuse me, but buffy has *super* *powers*, while duncan mcloud is just > some guy, and all he can do is fight other guys. O.K. before anyone gets into this...it's a long one!!!!! "Other Guys?" Duncan has fought men and women with either centuries or even millenia of experience. Not to mention that every he is the one who is stalked for every encounter he has with another immortal. Yes, Buffy has super powers...but, didn't Giles say in the episode "The Pack" that even she could not contend with the likes of five demonically enhanced teenagers. Duncan Macleod has survived most of the major battles of Scottish Independence and four hundred years of immortals both high and low who have come to execute him. So..they aren't really just SOME guys. Be fair. > like i > already said, Buffy has faced worse enemies in five excellently-produced > WB episodes than Duncan Mcloud has seen in three years of low quality USA > syndication. Just to be fair again, yes Buffy has sttod up to the likes of the Master's minions...but a human sized female Praying Mantis? I would really like to see how she would fair against the Kurgan. Or Kane? Or Slan? Or just ONE of the recently seen "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" (whom Duncan dispatched two of ) I mean does she enjoy "watching children thrown into pits for hungry dogs to fight for meat"? This is the Kurgan. Has she been the symbol of timeless terror like the Four Horsemen? Buffy is strong but she is not ruthless. Most of the immortals are in their own way in order to survive. And as for low quality T.V....I believe that you really haven't watched the show to be able to make that kind of comment. If you're going to argue the facts about the fiction...argue them. But don't make fiction of the facts. > Angel is *so* much hotter than Duncan, and besides, Duncan is *old*, and > Buffy totally doesn't go for that. Actually, this is where I think you're mistaken. Angel carries the same sense of cryptic mysticism which surrounds any immortals life. This is what she is attracted to , and of course his good looks. Which brings me to my next point. > she's hot for Angel, who is at least her age. but even Xander is better > looking than Duncan. he's got kind of a funny face. Not according to the multitude of female fans which represent the majority of the Highlander viewing audience. Duncan, to quote you is "old" but he remains physically 30, which was the time of his death / rebirth. His sense of history and prescence of an aged spirit is and would be enticing to any woman of taste - i.e. Buffy (and countless others.) Angel IS a good looking guy with lost of suaveness. I never said he was otherwise. And yes he probably could give Duncan a run for the money with the women watchers out there. > > so i think you're wrong -- he would be completely overwhelmed by Buffy's > stunning, sterling beauty. she would probably get that Lolita thing going, > and when he's lulled into a state of blubbering and drooling hormonal > bliss, doing her tonails or something, she'd neatly dispatch him, one two > three finito. > > andrew Duncan probably would be interested in Buffy's looks...but after four hundred years...do you really think SHE is the best looking gal to ever cross his path? Don't get me wrong..I think she's gorgeous but then again I've only been around for a quarter of a century. Ultimately I think you're points are unfair to the Highlander. I don't really think you've watched the show enough and have a case of BUFFY blindness. I think the show (Buffy) is an EXCELLENT show, but I don't think I'd be too quick too judge the validity of other characters in how they stack up to the slayer. There is no real "right" or "wrong" to this...just a preference of opinion. I've presented mine I believe rather farily..do you think you have? Peace- Norman C. Lao Watchers - Northeast region ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:33:33 -0400 From: Crimson Dream Subject: BUFFY: A Buffy Newsgroup I hope there's going to be a Buffy News group. I'm getting about 10 to 15 e-mail per day! Naja ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:34:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Bast Subject: Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Gail Celio wrote: > As we wait for "Angel", what are some possible plot > devices for which we would see a different side of Willow? Possession by > an animal, vampire, or succubus (the last of which would be VERY > interesting...)? Put under a spell or curse? Oh, I so hope nothing! I was thinking, last night, that if something were to happen to Willow, the way she's portrayed now she'd be the ideal victim. That would make me very unhappy. Of course, if we saw Willow going and signing up for self-defense courses, that would be another side of her. We have seen more than one side of Willow, imo. She's a hacker, and a person who's a good gossiper. She also can think on her feet, like in the premiere when she tossed holy water on Darla. She's someone who is very cunning and shrewd, and knows enough to not trust in first appearances, such as when Xander was trying to get the key from her in The Pack. I'd say the side we see most is the shy and retiring one, but within that there's a core of iron that's well hidden. If something were to ever happen to Buffy, and Willow needed to do something to go and try to save her, such as heading into the sewers, then I think she'd do it in a heartbeat--after taking the time to prepare for about any eventuality. - --Bast *NatPack *CoS *Dryad *Duchovnik *Broom Brigade *CF *Siamese Twin http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~cooling "Thou shalt not commit acts of Jerry Lewis!" --Tippi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 13:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Segment mention on Inside Weekend Hi all, I was watching the tailend of "Inside Weekend" ("Inside Edition's" weekend show), and they showed what was going to be on the next "Inside Edition" and they showed SMG talking about Buffy and a clip from "The Witch" and something like "See how Buffy has already become a cult hero". I'm getting psyched to see this segment, considering I helped get it to be put together! Reminder - It will be showing in most States tomorrow, check your local listings for time and channel. And it is suppose to air in NY and DC Tues. Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:03:43 -0500 From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow At 3:34 PM -0500 04/14/97, Bast wrote: >Oh, I so hope nothing! I was thinking, last night, that if something were >to happen to Willow, the way she's portrayed now she'd be the ideal >victim. That would make me very unhappy. Of course, if we saw Willow >going and signing up for self-defense courses, that would be another side >of her. I don't think Willow is portrayed as a victim at all. I give major kudos to the writers of last week's episode for not having her get tricked by Xander *and* for having her be smart enough to get the hell out of the library when The Pack arrived. Smart. Very smart. Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:16:33 -0700 From: "Dave Ko" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow > I don't think Willow is portrayed as a victim at all. I give major kudos > to the writers of last week's episode for not having her get tricked by > Xander *and* for having her be smart enough to get the hell out of the > library when The Pack arrived. Smart. Very smart. > > Sharon > I would most definitely agree.. not to be sexist or anything, but many women on TV are portrayed as: 1) see monster 2) brain turns off goto 1), etc etc.. giving her an intelligence adds a lot to her character.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:45:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Buffy in Cinefantastique Hi all, There's an article in the May issue of Cinefantastique, I skimmed through it, it's mainly a interview with Joss, and no comments from any of the stars that I could tell. There was a picture of Joss, one of SMG, ASH, Nicholas and Charisma together (Alyson was cut out of it :P ), and one of SMG with the "DeBarge" vamp. (who was mistakenly identified as "Luke" in the caption). I didn't get it, cause it didn't have anything of interest for me and the picture with ASH was one I already have (From StarLog, that shows Alyson in it). I think Cinefantastique should've done better research when it comes to who's in the pictures and that AH is on the show more than CC. Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:42:08 -0700 From: Taiyin Subject: Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow At 05:03 PM 4/14/97 -0500, Sharon A. Himmanen wrote: >I don't think Willow is portrayed as a victim at all. I don't think she is, either. Not at the *moment.* So far I've been *extremely* impressed with the way the show has managed to lull me into a false sense of predictability (and sometimes cliche) before shocking me with a 180 degree turn at the end. But, I also think that, unless there is a concerted effort to keep that up, of all of the characters on the show, Willow would be the one to ultimately be victimized the most. She is the one who is, by design, most easily lapsed into that particular stereotype. She isn't now, but I think what Bast was saying is that (as XF fans will attest about Scully) just because a character starts out breaking the molds doesn't mean it lasts. Sometimes all those centuries of writing cliches just start to catch up with writers. And, of all the characters on the show, Willow would be the one most likely turned into the damsel in distress. I adore what they've done with the show so far. But I've been too disappointed with too many shows over the years (X-Files) that deteriorate over time. Especially when they start out as phenomenally as Buffy did. I'm just a skeptic. Taiyin ~ NatPack ~ Siamese Twin ~ Cult of Skinner ~ BuffyFan ~ A-Team http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/1922/taiyin.html "Testosterone is a great equalizer. It turns all men into morons." -- Giles, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:50:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Azran Tain Subject: BUFFY: The Pack I haven't seen my first message appear yet, and I don't know if I'm supposed to on a majordomo list, but it broke the ice anyway (at least for me). I rewatched The Pack last night, and caught a few little things besides the "scully" line that were interesting. (I hope these haven't been mentioned before.) "Here come the Winged Monkeys" referring to the four mean kids as they came into the club. Nice Wizard of Oz reference. "This is beyond the pale" by Principal Flutie. This is a fun one, and I don't even know if the writers realized it at the time. As an expression, it means something wild or uncivilized. It's the entomology of it that's interesting, though. Pale is as in palisade. The expression is derived from an outpost protected by a palisade, beyond which lies the wilderness. What's funny is that a palisade is a fence of pales -- pointed wooden stakes, from the Latin, palus. (Well, I thought it was funny, anyway.) Then there's the book Giles checked for information on possession, the Malleus Maleficarum. This is actually a real book, published in 1486 that was created by two Dominican inquisitors. It also happens to be one of the most vile and sinister (not to mention sexist) things ever written. The title translates as the "Hammer of Witches" and it details step by step the methods of extracting confessions from suspected witches. Not using the "comfy chair," either. Though in the Buffyverse, where the witch-hunts most likely had their basis in reality, I suppose you can't really condemn it. - -Azran (who can be very boring at times, he knows) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:50:28 -0400 (EDT) From: andrew stellman Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 Watchers@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Ultimately I think you're points are unfair to the Highlander. I don't > really think you've watched the show enough and have a case of BUFFY > blindness. I think the show (Buffy) is an EXCELLENT show, but I don't > think I'd be too quick too judge the validity of other characters in how > they stack up to the slayer. There is no real "right" or "wrong" to > this...just a preference of opinion. I've presented mine I believe > rather farily..do you think you have? i never presented my opinion "fairly", and i never intended to. i have a lot of trouble taking seriously the idea of buffy and duncan mccloud getting into a fight. how can you type five pages worth of serious consideration of the issue? i think you have way too much free time on your hands. i really don't feel all that strongly about trying to imagine a world where two characters from two TV shows would be pitted against each other in a fight to the death. if it means *that* *much* to you that buffy can't kick highlander's ass, then fine. i take it all back. i didn't realize that you took the whole prospect of buffy kicking duncan's butt so seriously, i kind of thought it was funny. i really didn't mean to offend you, because it seems that i did. so from here on in, i promise i'll do my best never to mention highlander's ass, and the various prospects of it getting kicked. is he the only USA show that's going to be defended tooth-and-fist? how about renegade? i guarantee that buffy could kick the renegade guy's ass. and forever knight's ass, too, but that's not really fair because she is a vampire slayer, after all. she could totally beat the booties of both detectives in silk stalkings, and she could definitely kick both asses of the guys in weird science. how about other wb shows? she could kick hercules' ass, but not iolis' ass. she could probably beat up captain cisco, maybe whorf, but definitely not odo or dax. how about talk shows? rosie would wipe the floor with buffy (sorry, guys, but y'all know it's true), but she'd definitely hold her own against ricki lake, leeza, montel williams (even if he uses his super-baldy-powers), and she could kick kathie lee gifford's ass around the block and back (and i'd pay to see that). she would pulverize conan and andy, but max weinberg would sic his posse of musicians on her and she'd have to run away. buffy would buff the floor with david letterman, but his ratings have dropped off, so i'm not really surprised by that one. the one show i can't figure out is how buffy would do against the entire cast of Talk Soup, coming at her all at once with various cleaning implements and gardening tools. don't forget, john henson has his special henson powers, and senor sock has his soup-spray-gun that blinds and maims and causes evil and death wherever it hits. come on, people, i really wanna know this stuff! andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:05:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Segment mention on Inside Weekend On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Sonja Marie wrote: > Reminder - It will be showing in most States tomorrow, check your local > listings for time and channel. And it is suppose to air in NY and DC > Tues. In the Detroit area, it will be on tonight (Monday night/Tuesday morning) at 12:05 a.m., WXYZ. Betsy - bentley@umich.edu Fanfic Resources: www-personal.umich.edu/~bentley/ Natpack/CohenHead/DDEB2/PotCoS/GASPer/BHarbour Genealogist "The dead have a lot to say. You've just got to speak their language: Stiffbonics." -- Simms, "Leaving L.A." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:57:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Bast Subject: Re: BUFFY: Alter-Willow On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Taiyin wrote: > She isn't now, but I think what Bast was saying is that (as XF fans will > attest about Scully) just because a character starts out breaking the molds > doesn't mean it lasts. Sometimes all those centuries of writing cliches > just start to catch up with writers. And, of all the characters on the > show, Willow would be the one most likely turned into the damsel in distress. Thanks for explaining me, Taiyin. I guess I wasn't as clear as I should have been. No, Willow's not a victim, not in the least, however; if tptb decided they needed a main character as a victim, my bet is, unfortunately, on Willow. > phenomenally Ooh, you spelled it right! I'm so proud of you! *snicker* Bast ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:11:39 CST From: "D.L. Solomon" Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Pack Azran wrote: > "This is beyond the pale" by Principal Flutie. This is a fun one, and I > don't even know if the writers realized it at the time. As an expression, it > means something wild or uncivilized. It's the entomology of it that's > interesting, though. > > Pale is as in palisade. The expression is derived from an outpost protected > by a palisade, beyond which lies the wilderness. What's funny is that a > palisade is a fence of pales -- pointed wooden stakes, from the Latin, palus. > (Well, I thought it was funny, anyway.) This really is a fun thing to know. Sometimes we believe that these things are just coincidence, but I think that the writers know what they're doing. > Then there's the book Giles checked for information on possession, the > Malleus Maleficarum. This is actually a real book, published in 1486 > that was created by two Dominican inquisitors. It also happens to be one > of the most vile and sinister (not to mention sexist) things ever > written. The title translates as the "Hammer of Witches" and it details > step by step the methods of extracting confessions from suspected witches. > Not using the "comfy chair," either. Though in the Buffyverse, where the > witch-hunts most likely had their basis in reality, I suppose you can't > really condemn it. This is quite interesting. And quite eerie. The things people have done to others over the course of history is horrifying. > -Azran (who can be very boring at times, he knows) This wasn't boring at all. I appreciate learning more about language and history. Thanks, Azran. Donna Giles Appreciation Society Panter: Bandager of Boo-Boos D.L. Solomon solomon@library.uta.edu "I don't take things for granite cause that's what tombstones are made of." -- Hank the Cowdog. (Hank the Cowdog, Book #1) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:23:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Cagey Subject: BUFFY: Character guides Azran wrote: > Malleus Maleficarum. This is actually a real book, published in 1486 > that was created by two Dominican inquisitors. It also happens to be > one of the most vile and sinister (not to mention sexist) things ever > written. The title translates as the "Hammer of Witches" and it details But a lovely primary source. Condemn the disease rather than the symptoms. Taiyin pronounced: > I'm just a skeptic. Don't Scully me, Taiyin. :) I'd like to echo Elaine's request for character guides, and I hope that everyone who contributes will allow the material to be included in the FAQ (which I'll make available very soon. Promise!) - --kg **** kg244989@oak.cats.ohiou.edu * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1263 * No quote today. Move along. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:16:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Segment mention on Inside Weekend On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Betsy Vera wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Sonja Marie wrote: > > Reminder - It will be showing in most States tomorrow, check your local > > listings for time and channel. And it is suppose to air in NY and DC > > Tues. > > In the Detroit area, it will be on tonight (Monday night/Tuesday morning) > at 12:05 a.m., WXYZ. > Betsy - bentley@umich.edu And in Seattle (where I am) it's on at 1:05 am, so I guess it on on Tues (early) in other places as well! Long night for this Buffy fan! Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:20:07 -0600 From: Jill Gillham Subject: Re: BUFFY: A Buffy Newsgroup It was my understanding that talk about a newsgroup was getting tabled until after the second season renewal notice came down. (And it is going to get renewed, darn it!) In the mean time, it might be a good idea to position ourselves to get one put into place. First, post Buffy thoughts/threads into the right newsgroups. I've seen threads in rec.arts.sf.tv, and someone said it was on topic in rec.arts.tv too. If you've got webTV, I think it's possible to read/post through Dejanews (http://www.dejanews.com) but I'm not totally sure. Current usenet traffic is a powerful tool/statement when it comes to arguing for a group. Second, what are the current mailing list statistics, List Goddesses? (Members on the list, rate of new subscribers, posts per day?) Current, active mailing lists are seen as a plus when it comes to determining group interest. Third, if you do get involved in arguing for the group itself, the key thing to assert is that "there is enough potential traffic to make this group viable" Saying that Buffy should have a group because it's a cool show, although accurate, isn't going to win an argument in alt.config. The people involved in sending out the command messages to create a new group don't care how worthwhile or wonderful a potential group is, they just want it to have enough traffic to be sucessful. I'm more of a news.groupie than someone who hangs out in alt.config, but if there's anything I can do to help form the group, give me a holler. The other Jill, Jill Gillham jilkey@grfn.org http://www.grfn.org/~jilkey "You are awfully impatient for someone who's supposed to be immortal." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: The DarkScorpion Subject: BUFFY: No Inside Edition!!! ARGHHHHHHHH!!! No Inside Edition for two days in Los Angeles because of Clippers games?!!! Thats just great. Would someone be kind enough to tape it and make me a copy? I'll gladly pay, or I could dub some episodes, or do something. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks *****Please reply to lmarjun@calstatela.edu The DarkScorpion *************************************************************************** You Have Just Been Stung By The DarkScorpion *************************************************************************** Contact The DarkScorpion at: lmarjun@calstatela.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 23:07:04 +0000 From: "WorstWitch" Subject: BUFFY: Malleus Maleficarum > Then there's the book Giles checked for information on possession, > the Malleus Maleficarum. This is actually a real book, published in > 1486 that was created by two Dominican inquisitors. So Giles has a copy of this thing, huh? (Haven't seen the ep yet.) Gee, I'd love to go through the books he hides under *his* bed. I think he enjoyed his little stint as a warlock in "The Witch" - he must know about some pretty scary and gruesome reference books. Bet he has nightmares ... ahem, I'll stop GASPing now before I get pathetic. I remember this book from college drama class - that's where my nickname came from ... I played a witch once, and got tried according to this book, and hung and the audience *laughed*... the name kind of stuck I seem to remember that having a mole or wart was a *real* bummer if you were being investigated as a witch by these two perverts - moles and the like were thought of as nipples for the devil to suckle the witch's blood or somesuch. None of this humanely turning the witch's skin blue with acid and eye-of-newt, just trial-by-pain. WorstWitch - --------------------------------------------- WorstWitch's "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" Pages http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1497/index.html - --------------------------------- Giles Appreciation Society Panter Mopper of Brow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:04:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Xinlei Du Subject: BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar This is my first time posting here. Hi everyone!! Anyways, today is my birthday and it's Sarah Michelle Gellar's too!! Does anyone know how old she's turning? ~Xinlei~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:07:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Xinlei Du Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Pack >I rewatched The Pack last night, and caught a few little things besides the >"scully" line that were interesting. (I hope these haven't been mentioned >before.) When was the "scully" line part? I think I missed it. I wastched it twice, but...well, ya know. Please help! Thanx! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:13:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Raymond M. Kowalski" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Xinlei Du wrote: > This is my first time posting here. Hi everyone!! Anyways, today is my > birthday and it's Sarah Michelle Gellar's too!! Does anyone know how old > she's turning? > > ~Xinlei~ > > > Sarah is twenty today. How old are you if you don't mind me asking. That is pretty cool that you have the same birthday. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:15:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar She turned 20 today. On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Xinlei Du wrote: > This is my first time posting here. Hi everyone!! Anyways, today is my > birthday and it's Sarah Michelle Gellar's too!! Does anyone know how old > she's turning? > ~Xinlei~ Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:37:42 -0700 From: Watchers@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. Andrew...Andrew...Andrew...thanks for the fine entertainment as we rebuttled each other of the finer points of ultra fandom. However, I graciously respect your concern with my own apsects of "ultra fandom". Thanks for the genuinely enthusiastic commentary. However, the truth always rings truer when presented with the facts. Hope everyone in the list liked this thread. I know I did. And for anyone else who thought either I or this thread was obnoxious....it was...but it was never meant to be. Peace - (I mean it) Norman C. Lao Watchers - Northeast Sector ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:37:27 -0400 From: Falstaff@webtv.net (Daniel Tropea) Subject: BUFFY: Next Watcher? Willow Hi, With Giles taking such an interest in the work that Willow is doing for the team ie doing research on the net. If you notice she does all the computer research. Could Giles be training Willow to be the next Watcher. Giles is in his early 40 and since Buffy seems to be his first and probably only slayer to watch could Giles be training Willow to watch the next one. It is very conceivable that Giles served the same type of function during his teen years ie apprenticing under another watcher, ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 16:36:36 -0700 From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: ARGH! No mention of ASH or Alyson on IE! :PPPP Hi all, I just read on the Posting board about IE and someone said that they didn't even mention Anthony or Alyson or their characters!!!!!!! Why that &@^#^#@#$ piss me off!!!!!!!!!! I know of a place where you can send feedback and if anyone is interested I'll send the URL. And after all the help I gave the producer!!!!!!!! HURUMPH! It's good publicity but it still sucks that they totally disregarded two of the great cast members! And as a GASPer and ASH fan I'm really miffed! http://www.ultimatetv.com/wb/buffy/bronze/postingboard.html - -- Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the JFIFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Xinlei Du Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah Michelle Gellar >Sarah is twenty today. How old are you if you don't mind me asking. That >is pretty cool that you have the same birthday. > 14!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:45:40 -0400 From: Falstaff@webtv.net (Daniel Tropea) Subject: BUFFY: Buffy's mother and previous slayer Someone in this group mentioned that PMS may be the determining factor in ending a slayers job but not life. That brings up another theory that I thought of but dismissed. Could Buffy's mother be the former vampire slayer. There are two advantages to this. The first it would be very easy for the watchers to keep tabs. Also if being slaying is based on genetics rather then soul this would also make sense. Now the only problem is that would her mother not remember. To protect the offspring and to allow the next slayer to naturally develop could the memories of being a slayer be repressed during the pregnancy ie given a false childhood. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:54:51 -0400 (EDT) From: aduty@norfolk.infi.net (Andrew Duty) Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy/highlander correlation.. I thought there would be a little Highlander spill over here. Now I really dont think its fair to really compare the two shows, they are similar in some respects but the reason I love BtVS so much is that it is so different from HL. If the two fought Buffy has the advantage her powers and Duncan has experience and healing abilities. Again she has no problem beheading Vampires with pen knives and drum cymbals so I doubt fighting a immortal would be any different. Duncan also has a problem with killing women so that could also give Buffy a bit of an edge. It basically comes down to who's show this little battle takes place on. If Buffy was in HL then she would lose, if Duncan was on BtVS he would lose (least in my opinion). As for villians, that is one of the absolute best things about BTVS. They have a real villian that isnt killed by the shows end. Joss said in his interview that the Master was Buffys Lex Luthor. A good villian makes a show and they have a great one. So no matter how tough a Kalas or a Kronus are in the end they just another diversion til the next head of the week. I do hope this doesnt turn into a battle though. Both shows appeal to different people and there is a bit of a cross-over. I remember a Xena/Highlander war a few months ago that was particularly nasty and BtVS is too much of a good show to divide people into camps. Again, just a few thoughts. The Other Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:58:10 -0400 From: Falstaff@webtv.net (Daniel Tropea) Subject: BUFFY: Fwd: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer (Renewed for next year) - --WebTV-Mail-1302864154-3821 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi, A newsgroup for Buffy has been created and is on www.zippo.com. Except to get to an alt group on zippo you need to be a member. So please ask your local usenet servers to carry it. Also for the other webtv subscriber to this list i have sent a request to wecare@webtv.net for them to carry it on our usenet. I hope that you also send them a request. Thank you, - --WebTV-Mail-1302864154-3821 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <199704142354.QAA06052@mailtod-101.bryant.webtv.net> From: Falstaff@webtv.net (Daniel Tropea) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:54:20 -0400 To: wecare@webtv.net Cc: falstaff@webtv.net Subject: Fwd: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer (Renewed for next year) Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=WebTV-Mail-245857237-1963 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) - --WebTV-Mail-245857237-1963 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Since alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer is in Zippo could this be included in our newsgroup server. I know many would appreciate it. Thank you. Dan Tropea - --WebTV-Mail-245857237-1963 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT From: evebehr@super.zippo.com (Eve M. Behr) Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer (Renewed for next year) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:30:09 GMT Organization: None Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3353476b.127917490@snews5.zippo.com> References: <5in0nh$bve$1@newsd-103.bryant.webtv.net> Reply-To: ebehr@internode.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 23:49:05 -0400, Daniel Tropea wrote in alt.config: >Hi, > >I proposed alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer a couple of weeks ago and was told it >was too early that >it should wait till it gets renewed for next season. Well it has been >renewed and it should now be created. It has a loyal following and >deserves a newsgroup plus it is really getting to large for >rec.arts.tv. The newsgroup: alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer is already on the Zippo news server. I imagine it is on others as well. I suggest you ask your news admin to carry it. In other words, it's already here. Eve M. Behr ebehr@internode.net - --WebTV-Mail-245857237-1963-- - --WebTV-Mail-1302864154-3821-- ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #18 ************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-buffy": subscribe buffy-digest local-buffy@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "buffy-digest" in the commands above with "buffy". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/buffy/archive. These are organized by date.