From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #55 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Monday, May 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 055 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Re: BUFFY: Willow, Angel Acronyms and Stuff Re: BUFFY: "Keeping" stuff Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Re: BUFFY: "Keeping" stuff Re: BUFFY:Willow's stuff Re: BUFFY: replying to a few posts BUFFY: Re: buffy Digest V1 #54 Re: BUFFY: Question. BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List RE:BUFFY:Crossovers I'd like to see Re: BUFFY:Willow's stuff Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Watchers of Willow RE:BUFFY:Crossovers I'd like to see Re: BUFFY: Big ol' long comparison Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings BUFFY: Amy's body Re: BUFFY: replying to a few posts Re: BUFFY: Willow, Angel Acronyms and Stuff Re: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List Re: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast Re: BUFFY: Big ol' long comparison [none] BUFFY: A New Buffy Site Re: BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast BUFFY: FoW of WoW, you choose. Re: BUFFY: FoW of WoW, you choose. BUFFY: Brahms Stoker's Dracula BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast BUFFY: Ratings BUFFY: Defenders of the Night Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Re: BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast Re: BUFFY: News at Eleven: fire destorys all of a fans Buffy the Vampire Slayer tapes! Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Re: BUFFY: replying to a few posts RE: BUFFY: Ratings Re: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings BUFFY: News at Eleven: fire destorys all of a fans Buffy the Vampire Slayer tapes! RE: BUFFY: Ratings BUFFY: Buffy Rules!! Re: BUFFY: "Keeping" stuff Re: BUFFY: Son of Crossovers I'd like to see! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:37:52 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Hi David, > At 00:03 5/5/97 -0700, you wrote: > >I don't understand the ratings thing. How can sister, sister have more > >viewers than Buffy? It just doesn't make sense. > > 1) Sister, Sister has had a much longer time to establish an audience. > 2) Sister, Sister has been promoted quite a bit this season, including episodes on various nights. > 3) Sister, Sister was probably not a repeat. BtVS was. > 4) Sister, Sister fits WB's "family-programming" theme a bit better than Buffy. Don't forget that Sister, Sister is also a sitcom. Half-hour shows are easier to watch than hour-long shows. They also require less brain-power and patience. And Sister, Sister started out on a major network. > We need to compare first-run BtVS vs. first-run Sister, Sister if we are going to have a valid comparison. This is an important point, too. - -Augie - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. * augie@nic.com * AugieDB@compuserve.com VR.5 FAQkeeper - Watch VR.5 on The Sci-Fi Channel Tuesday Nights, 10 p.m. EST! Read the FAQ: http://www.nic.com/~augie/vr5/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:42:21 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Willow, Angel Acronyms and Stuff > Hendu asked for the blurb in Entertainment Weekly (5/9/97 issue) - anything > for you, sir! > > So, I thought it was notable that *they* thought the show was notable. Yeah, but only because a Star Drek actor was in it. ::sigh:: But I guess if that's what it takes, you do it. - -Augie - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. * augie@nic.com * AugieDB@compuserve.com VR.5 FAQkeeper - Watch VR.5 on The Sci-Fi Channel Tuesday Nights, 10 p.m. EST! Read the FAQ: http://www.nic.com/~augie/vr5/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:44:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Hendricks Ng Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Keeping" stuff DDA asked: > I don't imagine that they would, so what good is "keeping" something? > Is it just something silly to add to an already overly-long signature? In all seriousness, I think the actors are flattered that we fans like the show and their characters enough that we liken them enough to rock stars to be possessive over their attire... how many young women in 50's and 60's would've gone bozo if John Lennon or Elvis gave her his shoes or guitar? And now? If Metallica or Ozzy strolls in and decides to chuck a guitar or a pair of boots out into the stands, you know people would be fighting over it. David Boreanz aka Angel mentioned he was totally surprised some fans wanted to "Keep" his shirt... So far it's been a fun little gimmick that's gotten us mentioned on Inside Edition and giving BtVS extra notoriety and exposure. This is a *good* thing :) It's like buying Xena's Chakram at one of those Sci-Fi conventions, only so far Keeping something isn't really tangible. As long as the obsessiveness stays intangible or items start getting offered on a SciFi Con's auction block, then It's All Good. (i.e. no storming DB's house like a commando team, ISO his shirts and shorts) *knocks on wood* So basically, by "Keep"ing stuff, we will help advertise our fave show while having fun. - --Hendu, who thinks it'd be weird for him to mention BuffyBoots(!) in all his posts if it wasn't obvious he :)~~~ over them ;P /======================================================================\ | Hendu * hendu@usa.net * http://www.personal.psu.edu/hxn106 | |Willo'Wisp BuffyFan WHAM! * Keeper of Buffy's Boots & Buffy FAQ helper| | ===>Buffy The Vampire Slayer * WB Network Mon 9pm<=== | \=="A suspicious heart will see imaginary ghosts." -- Chinese proverb==/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 11:26:36 -0400 From: Sharon Himmanen Subject: Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings At 04:18 AM 5/5/97 -0500, David Daniel Anderson wrote: >We need to compare first-run BtVS vs. first-run Sister, Sister if we are going to have a valid comparison. Also, people need to keep in mind that networks tend to regard dramas and sitcoms differently. Buffy is, I believe, WBs highest rated drama, doing slightly better than 7th heaven. Sharon - -- Sharon A. Himmanen * romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com Ask me about the Buffy the Vampire Slayer mailing list "There was no reason for him to act silly when he said hello unless poultry was involved." --Vivian, Sabu, Eastway (a.k.a. Easter), Emily, and Nigel (a.k.a. Kitty Nunkies) Rutledge as pantomimed to Bonnie Rutledge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:04:16 +0100 From: Rich & Terry Pfeifer Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Keeping" stuff David: >What is this business about "keeping" stuff? I understand the part about >simply being the first to claim that you are going to do so, but then >what? Does WB actually send you the item? Um, No, but if I get to "keep" Willow's Mac, I'll put in a requisition order! :) > >I don't imagine that they would, so what good is "keeping" something? Is >it just something silly to add to an already overly-long signature? Hey! My sig isn't overly-long. I don't even really have one! > >Finally, from where do you people come that you all seem to know all about >"keeping" already? Are you people part of a group posting on a Buffy >board somewhere, or is "keeping" some new term that an >old-person-without-kids (like me) doesn't get to learn until it is no >longer cool to say it? It's a new thing, but it really reminds me of what we do over on the rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc boards, which is have F*C's. For example, if you are an All My Children fan, you may have "Erica" as your FAC (Favorite AMC Character, get it?) Of course, that doesn't really work here, as there are much fewer characters on BtVS as on any given soap, so we just keep "things." Everybody has a much better change of getting something, as oppsed to 75 million people (yes, that's an exaggeration) wanting to be FBC (Favorite Buffy Character) Angel! And to be fair, I think the RATSA people stole the idea from a Disney board. Terry Fow!-- Malcolm, remember me, your girlfriend? *clang!* I think it's time we break up. *clang!* But maybe we can still be friends. *clang!*- Willow (oh, I guess this makes it a sig, huh?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: felixcat@ecicnet.org (Felix) Subject: Re: BUFFY:Willow's stuff >>So far, no one has stole..er Kept the following Willow stuff: >> >>Willow's Awesome Macintosh Computer > >Ooooooh! Ooooooh! > >Can I have the Mac? Oh, please oh, please!!!! > >Terry >(I think I wanna be a FoW, not a WoW!) sorry, i already bagged that yesterday. mine! - -felix ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:19:45 -0600 From: Craig Posey Subject: Re: BUFFY: replying to a few posts At 11:43 PM 5/4/97 -0400, you wrote: >There have been a few crossovers where one of the shows ended in a >cliffhanger, to be solved in the other show. One specific example was the >"Magnum, PI"/"Murder, She Wrote" crossover, where Jessica Fletcher drove >Thomas Magnum up the wall. > >Then there's Xena/Hercules... Don't forget this season's X-files/Simpsons crossover... Craig napoleon@dbeach.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:21:56 +0100 From: Rich & Terry Pfeifer Subject: BUFFY: Re: buffy Digest V1 #54 Hiya Flagg! >>I've captured several clips from the "Angel" episode and put them up >>for download on a web page. So if anyone wants to check them out, go >>to >> >>http://shoga.wwa.com/~flagg Um.. anybody know if there's anyway to convert these to a Mac-happy format? Thanks! Terry Fow! Malcolm, remember me, your girlfriend? *clang!* I think it's time we break up. *clang!* But maybe we can still be friends. *clang!*-Willow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:30:05 -0400 (EDT) From: YWINGMAN@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question. Could someone please E-Mail me on how you get off the board, cause I deleted the old mail that tells you how to. Thankyou, ywingman@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:56:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BELCRAVE@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List The Keepers of Willow's Things page is at http://members.aol.com/BELCRAVE/index.htm. Tell me what you like. Chad BELCRAVE@aol.com Keeper of the list of Keepers of Willow's Things ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Katherine L. Combs" Subject: RE:BUFFY:Crossovers I'd like to see Hi, I like the idea of a Buffy/Forever Knight crossover and a Buffy/X-files crossover. The Millenium(sp)/Buffy crossover is good too. But what about: Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Poltergeist: The Legacy crossover Buffy and her gang meet Derek, Rachel, Kat, and others. They fight vampires, ghosts, and all sorts of stuff. . . Doctor Who/Buffy crossover The Doctor (#8) places his TARDIS in the school's library. Giles finds someone interested in vampires. Willow, Buffy, and Ms. Calender fall for the Doctor and the Doctor's companion falls for Giles. Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Friday the 13th: The Series (aka Friday's Curse) Buffy and gang meet Micki, Johnny, and Jack. They find that the vampires are planning the destruction of Sunnydale with help from Satan. Everybody has a plan and everything goes fine until Lewis Von Tradee(sp) or Satan possesses Giles. For the X-files/Buffy crossover: Scully gets help from Giles in more way than one. ;-) Mulder helps Buffy and the Slayerettes destroy a powerful demon. Oh, what about: Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Austin Powers crossover Austin goes to meet his #1 fan back in 1967: Rupert Giles! He even brings a picture of Giles as a 11 year old in a blue crushed velvet coat and pants and frilly cravat surrounded by girls just like his hero, Austin Powers. Giles has unfortunetly become "square" by Austin's standars. Soon, the guys realize that the Master and Dr. Evil, Austin Powers' nemesis, are plotting to take over the world together! *********************** For the Buffy & Giles bodyswapping idea Heh, Heh. . .I'd kill to see that. Oops ;-). .I'd love to see this in fanfic. Buffy tries to give Giles' body some taste in the fashion dept. "Where did you get that?" said Giles in Buffy's body, pointing to his left earlobe. "What?" said Buffy in Giles' body. "That earring?" "I found it. I'd thought it looked cool." "I've been wondering where I put that." "That's *yours*??" Heh. . .Heh. . . ;-> Bye, Leighann *************************************** PMEB/PWFC/GASP/Keeper of Giles' Hair Giles: They came after me, but I was more than a match for them. Buffy: Meaning? Giles: I hid. *************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:58:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Davignon Subject: Re: BUFFY:Willow's stuff Anybody got dibs on her heart? (And I don't mean ripping it out) If not, put me down for it :) Michael Davignon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:13:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Hendricks Ng Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy: Watchers of Willow Chad, Is your site up yet? so far, what do the lists look like? Hendu, is the Keeper of Buffy's Boots, smokin' or otherwise! /======================================================================\ | Hendu * hendu@usa.net * http://www.personal.psu.edu/hxn106 | |Willo'Wisp BuffyFan WHAM! * Keeper of Buffy's Boots & Buffy FAQ helper| | ===>Buffy The Vampire Slayer * WB Network Mon 9pm<=== | \=="A suspicious heart will see imaginary ghosts." -- Chinese proverb==/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:21:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: RE:BUFFY:Crossovers I'd like to see On Mon, 5 May 1997, Katherine L. Combs wrote: > Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Friday the 13th: The Series (aka Friday's Curse) > > Buffy and gang meet Micki, Johnny, and Jack. They find that the > vampires are planning the destruction of Sunnydale with help from > Satan. Everybody has a plan and everything goes fine until Lewis > Von Tradee(sp) or Satan possesses Giles. It's Lewis Vendredi (Vendredi is French for Friday). Micki tries to persuade Willow to wear her hair like hers, and the fans feel compelled to track Micki down and do *things* to Micki's hair in retribution. (Especially if Micki is from the season in which she's been described as having a cursed hairbrush). Betsy - bentley@umich.edu Fanfic Resources: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bentley/ Natpack/CohenHead/DDEB2/PotCoS/BHarbour Genealogist/ Joxerite/Friend of Willow/GASPer: Keeper of the Cuff Links "To read makes our speaking English good." -- Xander (BtVS) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:00:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Raymond M. Kowalski" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Big ol' long comparison I really liked the Vampire Diaries, but I forget what they are about. Time to reread them as soon as school is done(only two more days). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:04:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Raymond M. Kowalski" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Whoa DDA calm down. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:20:24 -0400 From: Cassandra_Caswell@condenast.com Subject: BUFFY: Amy's body Wow, you guys were busy this weekend! There must have been a few smoking keyboards...it took me an hour to read all eight of my digests! :) anyway, I think that when Amy's mom took over her body in The Witch, she couldn't give Amy coordination and finesse. Amy never seemed to have the coordination (I think I remember this...) so when her mom took over, the body still was unable to perform correctly, no matter who had the controls. Re: crossovers - I can definitelty see a Xena/Buffy thing. I mean, the Gods in Xena love to play with people right? So why not with Xena being time-jetted to Sunnydale? And then they can transplant some weird god-being there to mess with that poor death-trap of a high school. Any ideas of what the creature could be? Maybe a two-headed dragon....what would its disguise be tho'? I mean, the science sub was a woman during the day, right? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:26:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Banzai88@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: replying to a few posts In a message dated 97-05-05 01:19:01 EDT, you write: << There was supposed to be an X-Files/Picket Fences crossover, but CBS nixed it at the last moment. Picket Fences used the storyline, anyway (about cows giving birth to human babies), but cut the FBI agent's part a lot and made him into a generic FBI guy. >> Though they did go so far as to make reference to it on the X-Files ep that week. I thought it was great, though a full-fledged x-over would've been better. Unfortunately, what few crossovers get done on tv these days are only shows on the same network, which severly limits any decent Buffy connections. (Though I still think theres something off about those Mowry sisters and would help Buffy stake them). The comic book companies have started allowing folks to cross all over the place now, it'd be nice if the networks would follow suit. (Buffy vs Alien anyone?) Chris Banzai88@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 01:01:51 -0700 From: "Scott Palmer" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Willow, Angel Acronyms and Stuff > The Moloch Fan Club (btw, "Moloch" was how the subtitled Latin in > IRYJ spelled it) decides to use MALLOC as their new club name... > "Moloch Always Loves Lackeys On Computers" MALLOC, of course, is the name of an "include file" used in C programming. So it's a perfect name for a club of computer nerds. :-) Noah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:46:36 -0700 From: "Scott Palmer" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List > From: BELCRAVE@aol.com > To: Felixcat@ecicnet.org; buffy@xmission.com > Subject: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List > Date: Monday, May 05, 1997 9:56 AM > > The Keepers of Willow's Things page is at > http://members.aol.com/BELCRAVE/index.htm. Hi, Chad -- I tried to access the page, but the Web server said "URL not found." Noah (keeper of Willow's diary) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:15:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List On Mon, 5 May 1997, Scott Palmer wrote: > > The Keepers of Willow's Things page is at > > http://members.aol.com/BELCRAVE/index.htm. > > I tried to access the page, but the Web server said "URL not found." It should end in html, not htm. Betsy - bentley@umich.edu Fanfic Resources: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bentley/ Natpack/CohenHead/DDEB2/PotCoS/BHarbour Genealogist/ Joxerite/Friend of Willow/GASPer: Keeper of the Cuff Links "To read makes our speaking English good." -- Xander (BtVS) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 15:22:11 -0700 From: Sebastian Luberto Subject: BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast Hey all!! Does anyone know how old the cast of Buffy is??? I'm dying to find Nicholas Brendon's and Alyson Hannigans!! - -Jilbert:) "I laugh in the face of danger!...Then I hide till it goes away." - -Xander Harris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:31:12 -0400 From: Crimson Dream Subject: Re: BUFFY: Big ol' long comparison Raymond M. Kowalski wrote: > > I really liked the Vampire Diaries, but I forget what they are about. > Time to reread them as soon as school is done(only two more days). The Vampire Diaries is a really good Triology. J>J Smith is a fantastic writer. Anybody read her Night World books? Naja ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:59:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Xander Subject: BUFFY: A New Buffy Site Hey all you fellow Buffy fans!!!! I am just informing you of my new site. The address is: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8993 When you type in this address it will go to a gray screen. Click on the second line not the directory one. This is a new site and is still under construction, so don't complain about it yet! So visit my Buffy site and tell me what you think. My e-mail address is: xander03@rocketmail.com Respond ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!! === Xander # # ! ~~~ _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:15:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Raymond M. Kowalski" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast Alyson just turned 23. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: IMALwayzMe@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: FoW of WoW, you choose. Ok, so I am willing to do the GASPers thing with Willow (more like I would LOVE to) but I need to know what people think: Friends of Willow or Watchers of Willow. ~Kristen Keeper of the Sunglasses (finally!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:52:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: FoW of WoW, you choose. On Mon, 5 May 1997 IMALwayzMe@aol.com wrote: > Ok, so I am willing to do the GASPers thing with Willow (more like I would > LOVE to) but I need to know what people think: Friends of Willow or Watchers > of Willow. I've been waffling, but usually I prefer Friend of Willow. Betsy - bentley@umich.edu Fanfic Resources: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bentley/ Natpack/CohenHead/DDEB2/PotCoS/BHarbour Genealogist/ Joxerite/Friend of Willow/GASPer: Keeper of the Cuff Links "To read makes our speaking English good." -- Xander (BtVS) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:02:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Anna Taylor-Web Curator Subject: BUFFY: Brahms Stoker's Dracula I was watching all of the discourse on x-overs. I was thinking about the FK possibilities (especially since that series is otherwise defunct). It would be nice to see Ben Bass make an appearance, or Nigel Bennet. I kind of miss getting to see them at work. Maybel Nigel can take over The Bronze. But, now more to the topic of my post. Useless trivia that comes up when you work at a news/talk station. It's the 100th anniversary of Braham Stoker's "Dracula" this year. Auspicious time for vampire lore. - -Anna (the other Anna...since I think there are two of us.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 15:22:11 -0700 From: Sebastian Luberto Subject: BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast Hey all!! Does anyone know how old the cast of Buffy is??? I'm dying to find Nicholas Brendon's and Alyson Hannigans!! - -Jilbert:) "I laugh in the face of danger!...Then I hide till it goes away." - -Xander Harris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:18:54 -0700 From: Ekstrom Subject: BUFFY: Ratings <> > You are all forgetting one crucial fact in the Buffy ratings war: WB does not > have the type of clearance the major networks do. I'm not sure it can even be > seen in every household, like an NBC or an ABC can. > find their audience. I know that this is a fact for me. There isn't a WB station up here in Northern Minnesota, but thankfully we have a sattelite dish so i can watch Buffy via the KTLA station from LA California. *she thanks her lucky stars* I wouldn't worry so much about ratings. I mean look at it this way, except for a few movies, usually (from what I have noticed) no matter how bad of reviews a movie gets from the critics, as long as it has a good ads campaign people will go see it. FOr anyone who is actually is in the biz correct me if I am wrong. Take Care Wolfka 8o-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:22:11 -0600 From: Craig Posey Subject: BUFFY: Defenders of the Night I guess I am read to open my web site for visitors. It is entitled as above. It is a dual site being dedicated to the cartoon series Gargoyles and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The Gargoyles section is up and running and includes the complete Gargoyles encyclopedia with everything you could possible want to know about that series including all of the magic spells. It is arranged alphabetically. The Buffy site is underconstruction. Currently it only incorporates a couple of synopses (sp) for eps 7 and 8. Okay, I'm still writing 7, but it will be finished by tomorrow. It also includes production crew credits for eps 3-4-6-7-8. But, I will continue to add as they air. The address is HttP://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8138/index.html Craig napoleon@dbeach.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:11:14 -0500 From: David Daniel Anderson Subject: Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings At 10:37 5/5/97 +0000, you wrote: >Hi David, > >BTW, what program are you using for e-mails? All your lines come out to being >more than 80 characters long, and I'm just not filled with enough energy to go >scrolling to the right to read the rest of each line. . . I am using Eudora Light, which is supposed to auto-wrap. I'll manually wrap my lines in the future. I'm sorry about the problems! >I think the argument that was being used here is that more peope watch Buffy >than are watching, say, Larry King or whatever is on Nickelodeon. Kinda like >apples and oranges, but a point, nonetheless. Unfortunately, network >executives don't look at it this way, so it's a moot point. I see. Yes, that is likely true. If BtVS was on some cable station, and getting the audience that it is, then its survival would be assured. >> Not really. If Buffy was on ABC, CBS or NBC, the show would likely have been cancelled by now. Buffy's saving grace is that it is on WB - a new and struggling network. >Now that's a tough assessment to make. If Buffy were on one of the three major >networks, it would have better clearance, possibly more credibility, and >possibly more advertising behind it. (Although WB has done an excellent job on Yes, thank you for clarifying that point. I was speaking with the assumption that the ratings for BtVS would remain the same if it was on the big three, but that case is very unlikely. Wider coverage and larger carry-over audiences would likely ensure that the ratings for BtVS would be significantly higher. DDA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:15:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Raymond M. Kowalski" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Ages of the Buffy cast Alyson just turned 23. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Seanan McGuire Subject: Re: BUFFY: News at Eleven: fire destorys all of a fans Buffy the Vampire Slayer tapes! On Mon, 5 May 1997, Sharon A. Himmanen wrote: > This bounced. --S > > >About two days ago now, the guest house where I kept my tapes and tv/vcr > >setup was subjected to a fire. The guest house was pretty much destroyed, > >along with my Buffy tapes. ARRGGHHH! ! Now I have to say I love this > >show, and rewatch the tapes frequently. Not having them has become a > >real pain, as I am sure you all would understand. > > > >Here is what I am asking. I was wondering if anybody out there who has the > >episodes on tape would be kind enuf to dupe them for me. If this isn't to > >much trouble, I will send you a tape, all necessary post&handling, and a > >self-addressed return envelope. I am not expecting one person to tape > >them all, but if I could get a group together to help me out, this really > >wouldn't be too much work. The next time you all sit down to rewatch your > >favorite episode, hook up an extra VCR, and dupe it for me. Any help you all > >can provide would be a gift. > > > >Plz respond to me, either privately or onlist. Thank you all! > > > >-ALEX E-mail me privately at delirium@xocolatl.com if you still need help. S. > >Keeper of Buffy's .. ummm.. is there anything left? > > > > -- > Sharon A. Himmanen > romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com * shimmane@shiva.hunter.cuny.edu > "Dolphins have no use for psychodiagnostic categories." --Douglas L. Medin > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:35:18 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Hi Sharon, > Also, people need to keep in mind that networks tend to regard dramas and > sitcoms differently. Buffy is, I believe, WBs highest rated drama, doing > slightly better than 7th heaven. And this is a huge point. How well does a show pick up on its lead-in audience? If a show loses the viewers from the previous show, then it's as good as dead, most likely. (Exceptions being those shows in the NBC hammock - between Friends and Seinfeld or Seinfeld and ER. You will still get a large audience and get moved to another night that way, but you will survive. =) That Buffy attracts additional viewers as well as 7th Heaven viewers is a good sign. (Of course, one has to really wonder about this whole 'lead-in' audience thing in this age of VCRs and remote controls. . . Like people are too lazy to change channels anymore? C'mon!) - -Augie - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. * augie@nic.com * AugieDB@compuserve.com VR.5 FAQkeeper - Watch VR.5 on The Sci-Fi Channel Tuesday Nights, 10 p.m. EST! Read the FAQ: http://www.nic.com/~augie/vr5/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:32:29 -0400 From: Laertes@webtv.net Subject: Re: BUFFY: replying to a few posts Just want to make a comment about crossovers actually happening this relates to Bentley's post: A) Golden Girl/Empty Nest - Empty Nest was a spinoff of the Golden Girls. In fact the EN charcters started off on one episode of the Golden Girls. Also they had the same producers/writers and network. B) The other examples that you gave such as Magnum and Murder, She Wrote were all from the same network. C) The Picket Fences/X-Files is a strange one since they were on the same nights and for the last season for quite a few episodes they were on the same time. In reality the only chance for a crossover is for Buffy to crossover with another WB network show. Pity. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:28:19 -0700 From: "Okoniewski, Debbi" Subject: RE: BUFFY: Ratings Ekstrom wrote: > <> > > > You are all forgetting one crucial fact in the Buffy ratings war: WB > does not have the type of clearance the major networks do. I'm not > sure it can even be seen in every household, like an NBC or an ABC > can. > Actually, this is a true fact. The WB is really considered a full-fledged network yet because they don't yet have enough hours of programming. > I know that this is a fact for me. There isn't a WB station up here in > > Northern Minnesota, but thankfully we have a sattelite dish so i can > watch Buffy via the KTLA station from LA California. *she thanks her > lucky stars* > Yeah, well, we lost the audio feed for 10 minutes last week on the I, Robot episode, so I just shut the tape off. Sometimes KTLA has a wicked ghost in it and we have two of everything on the screen. I guess it's better than NOT having it. > I wouldn't worry so much about ratings. I mean look at it this way, > except for a few movies, usually (from what I have noticed) no matter > how > bad of reviews a movie gets from the critics, as long as it has a good > > ads campaign people will go see it. FOr anyone who is actually is in > the > biz correct me if I am wrong. > Actually, there is a big difference between feature films and television publicity and marketing. (and I am in the biz, BTW) Ratings mean a lot in the television business because they determine the advertising rates and the resulting revenue that can be generated. When Magnum, PI was first sold into syndication, it commanded more than $1 million per episode in license fees. This means that a station who wanted to run Magnum on their local stations would have to pay approximately $22 million dollars for one season. If your ratings are bad, the studio is going to lose money, the station is going to lose money, and ultimately the fans may lose the show to cancellation. I really don't want to bore everyone to death with this, so if you want more details, e-mail me off-list. One suggestion to everyone though, start writing letters to the station in your area that shows Buffy and thank them for airing the program. Tell them that you hope they are picking it up for next season. SNAIL MAIL IS BEST, as these are recorded. Letters do work. (It worked for all of us Highlander fans this year). Remember the KISS principle (Keep It Short and Simple) in your letter writing. Deborah Okoniewski ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:36:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Anime Nut Subject: Re: BUFFY: Keepers of Willow's Things List On Mon, 5 May 1997 BELCRAVE@AOL.COM wrote: > The Keepers of Willow's Things page is at > http://members.aol.com/BELCRAVE/index.htm. Chad, you made one tiny little error in your URL that may confuse some people out there. That should be "index.html", not "index.htm" Here's the whole URL again: http://members.aol.com/BELCRAVE/index.html Also, you really should check out the Who's Who Board at the Official Buffy the Vampire Slayer Site. Here's the URL: http://www.ultimatetv.com/wb/buffy/bronze/whowho.html You'll find that quite a few people have already claimed some Willow stuff. I myself am the proud Keeper of Willow's Chewed-up Pen. Hope this helps! Cheers, Anime Nut ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() ()_() (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) Alan "Anime Nut" Hufana ahufan1@uic.edu Keeper of Willow's Chewed-up Pen The Al-Files at http://www2.uic.edu/~ahufan1 Domain of the Slain at http://www2.uic.edu/~ahufan1/btvs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:39:31 -0400 From: Laertes@webtv.net Subject: Re: BUFFY: Last Weeks Ratings Alright 2 points in many markets such as Boston and NY the show is aired twice. Once one Monday night and repeated over the weekend - WPIX NY Saturday at 1:30 and WLVI (Boston) at 6:00pm Sunday. This will dilute the Monday night ratings and also WB is not on all markets like the big 4 networks. Has anyone looked at area ratings and how the show measures - national ratings would be very decieving since WB is not in all markets. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:45:15 -0500 From: romana@mindspring.com (Sharon A. Himmanen) Subject: BUFFY: News at Eleven: fire destorys all of a fans Buffy the Vampire Slayer tapes! This bounced. --S >About two days ago now, the guest house where I kept my tapes and tv/vcr >setup was subjected to a fire. The guest house was pretty much destroyed, >along with my Buffy tapes. ARRGGHHH! ! Now I have to say I love this >show, and rewatch the tapes frequently. Not having them has become a >real pain, as I am sure you all would understand. > >Here is what I am asking. I was wondering if anybody out there who has the >episodes on tape would be kind enuf to dupe them for me. If this isn't to >much trouble, I will send you a tape, all necessary post&handling, and a >self-addressed return envelope. I am not expecting one person to tape >them all, but if I could get a group together to help me out, this really >wouldn't be too much work. The next time you all sit down to rewatch your >favorite episode, hook up an extra VCR, and dupe it for me. Any help you all >can provide would be a gift. > >Plz respond to me, either privately or onlist. Thank you all! > >-ALEX >Keeper of Buffy's .. ummm.. is there anything left? > - -- Sharon A. Himmanen romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com * shimmane@shiva.hunter.cuny.edu "Dolphins have no use for psychodiagnostic categories." --Douglas L. Medin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:28:04 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: RE: BUFFY: Ratings Hi Deborah, > area that shows Buffy and thank them for airing the program. Tell them > that you hope they are picking it up for next season. SNAIL MAIL IS > BEST, as these are recorded. Letters do work. I won't get into the debate here as to whether or not letters do work, but I suppose it is note-worthy to mention that local stations must keep letters on file for a certain amount of time, by federal regulation/law. So that Buffy file folder could really pile up if lots of letters are written. They can't just throw them out and pretend they never counted them. - -Augie - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. * augie@nic.com * AugieDB@compuserve.com VR.5 FAQkeeper - Watch VR.5 on The Sci-Fi Channel Tuesday Nights, 10 p.m. EST! Read the FAQ: http://www.nic.com/~augie/vr5/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:35:00 -0700 From: Lance Cummins Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Rules!! Just a test to see if it works. Buffy Rules "Friends dont shake hands. Friends gotta hug!!!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:42:30 -0600 From: "Gina (aka Gee)" Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Keeping" stuff David wrote: > >Finally, from where do you people come that you all seem to know all about > >"keeping" already? Are you people part of a group posting on a Buffy > >board somewhere, or is "keeping" some new term that an > >old-person-without-kids (like me) doesn't get to learn until it is no > >longer cool to say it? Actually, "Keeping" has been around as long as internet fandom and mailing lists have been around. Reference the Highlander list for one... lots of keeping going on over there! It's just a way of showing your fandom for a particular show or character, and it's just for fun. Not to mention it produces interest in the show when you put it in your sig... people often ask what certain acronyms are about, and you get the chance to fill them in on your fave character or show. Gee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gee  justgee@navix.net  {{>AGA<}} Archangel Copresident of the JFIFC  <*>  DFW & DFWGPADC "Stop this whirlygig of fun - I'm getting dizzy." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:05:11 PDT From: "Ana Cotton" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Son of Crossovers I'd like to see! From: "The Rogue Scholar" Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 : >Oh, if we're heading for cartoons, why not take the natural next >step and send her to Massachusetts to find out why so many people >vanish around the School for Gifted Students? snip Hmm.. Yes , but which group/team of the XMen would she meet up with? GenX? Definitely right up her alley... Of course Jubilee would take her shopping--probably with Sean's credit card (again since she and Boomer of Xforce did a spree 'see who can spend the most money' a while back.) >**Buffy and the Diana Tregarde novels > Another good female role model for our Slayer. [Heck, at this >rate, maybe Buffy should cut to the chase and transfer to NYC.] >Better still, let's get Anita Blake, Di, and Victory from Tanya >Huff's stories together and have a chat or seven about What It Means >to be female and an opponent of darkness. >Ooh, female mentoring! [Add Dana-Scully-to the above suggested Female >Opponents of Darkness chat.] Oohhhh... That would be fun. They could argue on the right way to kill a demon, etc.. Hugs, Ana, Secretary of the CIA, Communications Officer Purple Haze, Member of the PMEB, Keeper of the GASP Radio. "..I was bringing the Master as backup.It was like carrying a thermonuclear device to kill ants. Overkill has always been a specialty of mine." 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