From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #173 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Friday, July 4 1997 Volume 01 : Number 173 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Re: buffy Digest V1 #170 Re: BUFFY: Uninviting Vamapires? Re: BUFFY: buffy timeline and stuff Re: BUFFY: buffy timeline and stuff Re: BUFFY: buffy timeline and stuff BUFFY: BUFFY Re: Strange Quote Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Place in the WB Universe Re: BUFFY: Fan Name Re: BUFFY: Buffiatric? BUFFY: BtVS in OnSat BUFFY: The Unofficial Buffy Drinking Game... Re: BUFFY: Angel plot BUFFY: ADMIN: Netiquette BUFFY: ADMIN: Housekeeping BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules BUFFY: ARTICLE: Review in Boston Phoenix BUFFY: Little Buffy's Toys BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! Re: BUFFY: READ Posters? Re: BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! Re: BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! BUFFY: We Saved The World...I Say We Party! Re: BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! BUFFY: annointed one Re: BUFFY: annointed one See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 07:10:51 -0700 From: Terrie Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: buffy Digest V1 #170 On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Inspyral@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-07-04 08:28:26 EDT, Bufffan@webtv.net (Gary) writes: ><< The Hairy Elbows. I like it. Cool! >> >Please forgive me, but I missed a couple eps. Who exactly had hairy elbows? That's the weird part. No one does. Someone made the comment that we shouldn't depend on the cast for a name, because what is they give us something silly, like "Hairy Elbows". But, for some strange reasons related to the Hellmouth, people actually LIKE the name Hairy Elbows. Go fig. - -Terrie Keeper of Angel's Fridge "Grrr, Argh" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:17:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Weber Subject: Re: BUFFY: Uninviting Vamapires? I think you can actually univite vampires from your house. They have to be invited in, so it would make sense that if you distinctly uninvite them they won't be able to enter your house anymore. Score a little protection for us humans :) Krissy Email: krweber@suffolk.lib.ny.us you've got to fight for your right to have a monster - tori *Keeper of Buffy's Funky Trenchcoat* *Keeper Of Giles's Ice Pack* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:32:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy timeline and stuff On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Wien Huang wrote: > i was rewatching the angel ep. and buffy's mom says that she's been > "wrestling with the irs." when darla comes over. so that would mean > somewhere around february or march so she can get a good jump on the > deadline. considering that buffy and willow were studying at the school Actually, since Buffy's mom runs her own business, she probably has to file quarterly, not yearly. So it could be almost any time of the year. Betsy bentley@umich.edu -- www-personal.umich.edu/~bentley - - "Why did you pull a gun on me, you SOB?" - - "You laughed at my frog." -- Nea Dodson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:13:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Huff Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy timeline and stuff > Actually, since Buffy's mom runs her own business, she > probably has to file quarterly, not yearly. So it could be > almost any time of the year. I'm given to understand the quarterly filings are fairly simple (for a small business), and not something one would "wrestle" with. (Unless perhaps one is Xander.) Robert Huff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy timeline and stuff On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Robert Huff wrote: > I'm given to understand the quarterly filings are fairly > simple (for a small business), and not something one would > "wrestle" with. (Unless perhaps one is Xander.) Is this her first business, so she might not be used to the forms, yet? Also, maybe Sunnydale has its own set of taxes that she's not familiar with yet? Or maybe I'm just reaching? :-) Betsy bentley@umich.edu -- www-personal.umich.edu/~bentley - - "Why did you pull a gun on me, you SOB?" - - "You laughed at my frog." -- Nea Dodson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:32:42 -0400 (EDT) From: WiliQueen@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: BUFFY Re: Strange Quote >Ok, I have found these quotes: >"Give in to your true self, Nichol... I mean, Angel!" -- Darla >[Valerie >Meachum](who?) *raises hand sheepishly* Guilty. Actually, Perri's the guilty one, for declaring very-late-night phone conversations with her poor defenseless friends to be fair game for putting up on the Web. The "Character [Real Person]" attributions just mean the real person in question was saying something that *could* have been said by the character in some cockamamie alternate universe. Like one where Darla was really Janette or LaCroix, which connection FK fans really couldn't help making no matter how good an ep "Angel" was. :-) Like I said, it was late. But hey, I do my best to confuse six innocent people before breakfast. Thanks for helping me make my quota! ;-) Valerie Slayerette * NatPack * Broadway Baby * BBPG * etc... "You were destined to die! It was written!" "What can I say? I flunked the written." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 12:10:47 -0400 (EDT) From: MacKayne@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Place in the WB Universe I'm all for the bake sale. Only keep the chocolate chip cookies away from me. They are one of my primary weaknesses. I'll just stand over in the corner with a uzi watching out for Barney. As for names. Pick a name, any name. Just get it over with, start some kind of voting and get it over with. Ashe MacKayne Keeper of Absolutely Nothing. Burner of the Black Book aka: That guy on the left. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 07:28:54 -0700 From: Lee Daley Subject: Re: BUFFY: Fan Name "Hairy Elbows" it has a ring to it..... I'm a Hairy Elbow, ask me how. BTW Who's keeper of Xander's virginity. LeeD Keeper of the service contract on Willow's computer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 07:49:23 -0700 From: Lee Daley Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffiatric? PalOBuffys@aol.com wrote: >We are HUGE fans of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Hey wait a second, I might be old, I'll even go along with Hairy Elbows, but the overweight thing is the limit :) LeeD Keeper of the service contract on Willow's computer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 13:38:54 -0400 From: koch@northnet.org Subject: BUFFY: BtVS in OnSat Hey all, The new issue of OnSat (essentially a TV Guide for those with a satellite dish) sports a picture of our beautiful Ms. Gellar on its shiny cover, with a caption saying "Buffy: Saving the World One Vampire at a Time" or something like that. Anyway, there is an article on the show (I don't know how long) inside, which I, unfortunately, did *not* get to read, because my dork of a friend wouldn't let me borrow it for a few hours. Anyway, if anyone has the issue, or will be getting it, might you post the article here? Also, if anyone could possibly scan the picture and send it to me (I lack a scanner), would you please? TIA, - --Viashino-- "Yow! That thing's colder than Cordelia! No, I take that back. Nothing's *that* cold." - --Buffy, in the upcoming "Pyromancer: Part IV" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 13:46:18 +0000 From: Steve Slesinger Subject: BUFFY: The Unofficial Buffy Drinking Game... The Unofficial Buffy the Vampire Slayer Drinking Game!!!!!!!!!!!! Get together with a group of your fellow slayerettes and watch an episode of BtVS. Make sure to have plenty of beer on hand (or soda for you youngsters out there) and enjoy the game! -cyber.girl NOTE:Main characters are Buffy, Xander, Willow, Cordelia, and Giles. Take one drink after the following occurs: =3D)Buffy kills a vampire, demon or other hellish creature =3D)Giles says something using big words that is way too complicated for teenage comprehension =3D)Xander raises his eyebrows =3D)Buffy says something totally dumb(ex:=94Get down with your bad self!= =94) =3D)A main character uses the phone =3D)Cordelia says something mean to Xander =3D)Cordelia says something mean to anyone =3D)Xander says something mean to/about Cordelia =3D)Buffy wears her blue leather jacket =3D)Buffy wears her boots =3D)The Master is shown =3D)Willow does something that shows her love for Xander, and of course h= e doesn=92t notice. =3D)Xander does something that shows his love for Buffy, and of course sh= e doesn=92t notice. =3D)A band playing at The Bronze is shown Two drinks: =3D)Willow does something illegal on the computer =3D)Buffy asks how her hair looks =3D)Angel makes an appearance (if he appears several times in an episode, just drink the first time) =3D)Someone dies at Sunnydale High (a human) =3D)Buffy has a conversation with her mom =3D)A main character opens his/her locker =3D)Xander=92s backpack is shown =3D)Buffy wears sunglasses =3D)Buffy, Willow, and Xander are at The Bronze together =3D)Scene with only Cordelia and Giles =3D)Scene with only Angel and Xander =3D)The graveyard is shown =3D)Willow helps Xander with his math =3D)Buffy=92s mom drops her off at school =3D)A pop-culture reference goes over Giles=92 head =3D)Buffy argues with Principal Flutie, or anyone for that matter Three drinks: =3D)Someone screams =3D)Xander gets to hit someone =3D)Xander hugs Willow =3D)Xander dances =3D)Willow says =93Xander!=94 =3D)Willow talks about Xander when he=92s not around =3D)Buffy gives Willow advice =3D)Willow tosses her hair over her shoulder =3D)Willow puts her hair in two braids =3D)Someone opens a refrigerator =3D)Someone kicks down a door (most likely Buffy) =3D)Giles takes off his glasses =3D)Someone walks backwards =3D)Buffy lies to someone =3D)Buffy agonizes over what to wear =3D)Angel kisses Buffy (or Buffy kisses Angel) Four drinks: =3D)Xander is shown skateboarding =3D)Willow wears her Scooby Doo shirt =3D)Xander wears his black and orange sweater =3D)Giles drinks coffee =3D)A vampire gives his/her life to The Master =3D)Buffy practices vampire slaying with Giles =3D)Giles=92 teapot is shown =3D)Someone jumps out the window =3D)Xander shows jealousy =3D)Scene where someone is alone in the dark locker room =3D)Buffy jumps over a fence =3D)A main character is seen driving a car =3D)Buffy punches Giles =3D)Someone curses =3D)Xander tells Willow he loves her =3D)Someone does a back roll ( This will most likely be Buffy or Xander) =3D)Giles has a conversation with Ms.Calendar =3D)The Master does that thing where he puts his hand out and the screen gets all wavy... cyber.girl@rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:05:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ruthie718@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel plot >>A humdinger of a plot could revolve around one of Angel's victims tormenting him from beyond the grave. Buffy would initially be drawn into the conflict to save her beloved, and then be forced to confront the nasty aspects of his past. Excellent way to explore the entire natural of Angel's character, too.<< I really like this idea. That would be really cool. Think of all the more info we could get on Angel's past and see if they can work this out. I think I'd like to see them get together. The physical attraction is definetly there! It could work (maybe). And with the ghost, that would be a great plot! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 15:11:54 -0400 From: sah Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: Netiquette Please save this post for future reference. In addition to the list rules, here are a few suggestions that are established netiquette. These aren't rules per se, but Jill and I would like listmembers to observe them anyway. Basically, the common theme of all these suggestions involve wasted bandwidth. Most of you I think will agree that keeping that to a minimum is a necessary thing on the buffy list due to the high traffic. NETIQUETTE 1. When in doubt, and particularly when something is off topic, take it to private email. Since the reply to on the list is set up to automatically go to Buffy, Jill and I are well aware that mistakes will happen from time to time. If it does, you'll probably get a note from one of us about it. If you do happen to make a mistake, there's no need to post to the list apologizing, since that also is a waste of bandwidth. Going to private should be your first choice. If you do post something off topic to the list please include an ObBuffy in your post. 2. Please, no one line "this is a test" posts. If you think there's a problem with the list, please take one or more of the following steps. a. Write to either me or Jill (romana@mindspring.com or jtkirby@mcs.com) and tell us what you think the problem is. We'll answer you ASAP. b. Send a s*bscribe note to majordomo@xmission.com since you may have been uns*bscribed due to bouncing. If you aren't s*bscribed, that'll resub you; if you are s*bscribed, you'll get a note back saying you're still on the list. c. If you *must* send a test post (and this should only be as a last resort) please make it a post relating to buffy. 3. No "me too" posts. Those should go private, or should include more discussion. 4. At a bare minimum, please sign and place your email address at the end of each post if you don't have a .sig. This makes it easier for people to contact you privately if they need to. Some people's mailers strip out the headers with this information which is why you should include it in the body of your email. 5. Please make sure you properly attribute quotes when replying to previous posts. HOUSEKEEPING We're coming to the end of the academic year, and I just want to remind those of you with school accounts that you won't have access to over the summer to uns*bscribe from buffy. Mailboxes and disk quotas fill up and messages start bouncing. When that happens, Jill or I will unsubscribe you from the list, but doing it yourself before you go away makes our job a lot easier. Also, since it's not clear, the address for the list is buffy@xmission.com, whether you're on the regular list or on digest. I think that's about it. Back to your regularly scheduled Buffy discussion. :-) sah & Jill - -- Sharon * romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com Ask me about the Buffy the Vampire Slayer mailing list The Buffy Mailing List page: http://www.mindspring.com/~romana/buffylist/ "Be a Nazi, be a hypocrite, be a dictator, be a kitten killer, just don't be a Republican." ---Alora ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 15:10:42 -0400 From: sah Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: Housekeeping From time to time (and this depends largely on your ISP), we have to uns*bscribe people from the list. This is almost always due to some technical problem with your ISP. When it happens, we can't get a message to you to tell you what's happened; you'll just stop receiving list mail. It can be for one of the following reasons. MAILBOX FULL This affects AOL users more than anyone. If you are an AOL user, and you don't get to check your mailbox at least once a day, it fills up, and things start bouncing back to us. 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I sometimes will post two things in quick succession, and only one will drop. The other will take hours or days to drop. If something hasn't dropped in a few hours and it's timely or important, check with either me or Jill for permission to repost it to the list. sah - -- Sharon * romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com Ask me about the Buffy the Vampire Slayer mailing list The Buffy Mailing List page: http://www.mindspring.com/~romana/buffylist/ "Be a Nazi, be a hypocrite, be a dictator, be a kitten killer, just don't be a Republican." ---Alora ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 15:13:24 -0400 From: sah Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules Here's the periodic posting of the list rules Please review, or make sure you have an updated copy of them saved on your hard drive. The Buffy Mailing List Page is located at http://www.mindspring.com/~romana/buffylist/index.html. There you can find the status, rules, archive, etc. It also has instructions for s*bscribing/uns*bscribing. As always, please direct any questions offlist to Jill and/or me. *** Welcome! This list is for discussion of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer," both the TV series and the movie. Because we want this list to be a great place to talk about "Buffy," we are setting up a few ground rules. If you've ever been involved in a discussion list, many of these rules will look familiar. Hopefully, they'll make list life more interesting (and more fun) for everyone. 1. Keep posts on topic. Topics should be related to Buffy the series, Buffy the movie, the actors involved in either project, etc.. Discussion of vampires in other universes is fine as long as they're being discussed in relation to the Buffy universe. 2. Please be careful with the use of strong imagery or language in consideration of younger list members. Think "rated PG." 3. No advertising of non-Buffy related items or services. 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If you have any questions about these rules, please contact either one of us offlist. If you have subscription problems or questions, the fastest way to get help is to e-mail one of us at the addresses below, at the kirby@xmission.com addy which is the "official" e-mail owner of the list. Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) & sah (romana@mindspring.com) Listowners, Buffy the Vampire Slayer Discussion List buffy@xmission.com - -- Sharon * romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com Ask me about the Buffy the Vampire Slayer mailing list The Buffy Mailing List page: http://www.mindspring.com/~romana/buffylist/ "Be a Nazi, be a hypocrite, be a dictator, be a kitten killer, just don't be a Republican." ---Alora ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 16:13:03 -0400 From: David Williams Subject: BUFFY: ARTICLE: Review in Boston Phoenix The following article appeared in yesterday's *Boston Phoenix*, a local alternative paper . Yes, he got Angel's age wrong, but it's a really positive review. ***** Raising stakes Sink your teeth into *Buffy* by Charles Taylor (Boston Phoenix, Arts, p. 11 7-4-97) It's not much of a compliment to say that *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* (Mondays at 9 p.m. on the WB network) is the best of the supernatural shows that have debuted in the wake of *The X-Files*. (How hard is it to be better than *Dark Skies* or *Profiler*?) So let's say that *Buff*, which has been renewed for the fall and has just started summer reruns, is going to be the next cult show that becomes a big hit -- and that it deserves to be. Created by Joss Whedon, *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* bears only a superficial resemblance to his screenplay for the 1992 movie, an annoyingly broad teen comedy/horror spoof. Sixteen-year-old Buffy (Sarah Michelle Gellar) is the chosen one, the latest in a centuries-long lineage of young women, each of whom is the only human of her time with the strength and skill to slay vampires. Kicked out of school for burning down the gymnasium (the bloodsuckers had invaded the prom) and hoping to put her slayer days behind her, Buffy, along with her mom, relocates to lovely Sunnydale, California. Only thing is, Sunnydale is the location of the Hell Mouth, the opening to the Underworld from which demons rise. And it's in Sunnydale that Buffy meets her Watcher -- the mentor who trains her as a slayer, mentaly and physically -- in the person of the school librarian, Giles (Anthony Stewart Head, the male half of the ongoing Taster's Choice soap opera, who employs a British accent for his wonderfully dry delivery). One of the show's best gags is that the students and faculty are so caught up in the computer age, they never darken the library's door, leaving Giles -- resplendent in vests and tweeds that define bookworm chic -- free to pore over his trove of ancient demonology tomes. The characters here are teen types (after all, high school is the place where stereotypes come to life), but the writers and the cast have taken care to put some quirky meat on their outlines. And they have the wit to make vampire slaying Buffy's cross to bear. Every teenager complains that life is unfair. But it really is when you're only 16 and saddled with the responsibility of saving mankind from demons. Driving stakes into the hearts of various toothy miscreants (they dissolve into pixilated dust), Buffy is a walking, breathing Contempo Casuals poster for revolution, slyrr-style now! Gellar's Buffy is cute as a button in her minidresses and knee-high boots (sigh), though she's no Miss Popularity (she wouldn't be so appealing if she were). That title belongs to Cordelia (the name is a lot less funny than that of the actress who plays her, Charisma Carpenter), who's so catty and self-involved, she's irrestible. Whedon has also given Buffy a pair of misfit sidekicks who act as her research assistants, cheerleaders, and often grossed-out Greek chorus: Xander (Nicholas Brendon), who's got a wicked crush on Buffy, and science nerd Willow (the red-headed charmer Alyson Hannigan, with her sideways smile), who's got a wicked crush on Xander. And since no teen sage is complete without unrequited love, Buffy has a romantic ideal: Angel (David Boreanaz). Unfortunately, he's a 350-year-old vampire (a good one -- he's given up feeding on humans). Fortunately, he's the hunkiest 350-year-old vampire you've ever seen. Week after week, Buffy and company protect Sunnydale High from the Hell Mouth exchange students. So far, the choicest emissaries have been the evil mother who switches bodies with her daughter to relive her cheerleading glory days, and the girl who's such a wallflower, she literally becomes invisible, and thus is able to take her revenge. (Buffy realizes just how unpopular this girl is when she gets hold of her yearbook and sees everyone has inscribed exactly the same thing: "Have a nice summer.") The show's tone can waver; it's tough, at times, to tell where the comic deadpan ends and the straightface begins. But that's part of *Buffy*'s sweet-spiritedness: it never becomes campy or superior by condescending to its material or its audience. The nighttime scenes have the familiar-yet-uncertain blackness of your hometown at night. It's there that the sneaky connection between the show's teen adventurers and the vampires they face is strongest: everyone's a nocturnal creature. By day, at school, Buffy and Xander and Willow are weighed down by the usual teen complaints about their love lives (or lack thereof), school, their parents, boring suburban Sunnydale. (A one-Starbucks town," Xander calls it.) At night, they're trawling the streets on the trail of some new ghoul. The terrific season finale (the best of any prime-time show I saw this year) risked taking one of those encounters beyond the creep-show jolts by having Willow discover her techie pals slaughtered by vampires in the school's AV room. What followed was a modest, exceptionally intelligent scene about the emotional impact of violence that was anything but moralistic. It didn't put a damper on the show's visceral charge, either. Huddled in her bedroom, Willow explains to Buffy what she felt. "I've seen so much," Hannigan begins quietly, in a young girl's voice grown suddenly very tired, "I thought I could take anything...[But] I know those guys. I go to that room every day. And when I walked in there it wasn't our world any more. They made it theirs. And they had fun." Cool television shows are, by definition, more accessible than cool movies or bands or writers. Because they're right there on the TV dial, they're like a club anyone can join. For a show about high-school misfits coming out on top (or at least staying above ground) that's not only fitting -- I'd say it's awesome. ***** - -- David Williams <*> Ph.D candidate, Dept. of Theology, Boston College Strong am I with the Force, but not that strong... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:35:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Rose Subject: BUFFY: Little Buffy's Toys Good News! (at least for those of you are likewise struggling for your sanity), A new section has just been added to the Little Buffy Page, "Little Buffy's Toys," detailing all those specialized playthings that the Summers family might have purchased for their young daughter had they only known of... (you know the drill). You can access the toy section directly at: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/cyberpaws/lilbuffy.html#toys Or take the scenic route by starting at the Little Buffy Page top: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/cyberpaws/lilbuffy.html Plus, there is also a new Little Buffy TV program, which I have included in my sig quote below. Have fun! Lisa 15. >> Sabrina's Mom the Teenage Witch << Mom decides Sabrina is wasting her youth hanging out with loser friends when she could be leading cheers and bagging quarterbacks. So she declares "Step aside dear, I'll show you how it's done!" in a clear case of premeditated Freaky Friday. You thought Mom wanting to borrow your *clothes* was a pain? Try this! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:21:06 -0300 (ADT) From: Michael Thomas Subject: BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! Hi! Did anyone else see the Batman and Robin movie. There's a rubber lips reference in it that's EXACTLY like a "Get Smart" I saw years ago! Anyone else notice that? ObBuffy: If I'm not mistaken, the Annointed One is little kid... How did he come into existence? Was it like two vampires had "kids"? Can vampires have "kids"? Also, why don't vampire hunters just put on a metal neck guard when they go hunting? More blatther from: Mike Thomas. (Hope to be) Keeper Of Buffy's Slayer Birthmark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 18:27:44 EDT From: funee@juno.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: READ Posters? writes: > >In truth, since we have done a few photo shoots already (and there are >hundreds of photos from them) so we will probably just send some >negatives >or slides to the ALA and they'll do what they wish with them. > >Although we are doing another photo shoot on Monday... This is wonderful news!!! I'm so happy that there will be a variety of photos for the American Library Association to choose from. With such choices they should be able to come up with at least one, possibly and HOPEFULLY more than one poster idea. A series of posters would certainly be warranted. After all, what other tv series has ever boasted a Librarian like Giles as a hero? What other tv series has its characters utilize the library so deeply and successfully as a source for understanding and unraveling mysteries? I hope they included Joss Whedon in at least one photo shoot. Would be so nice to have a face to go with the name and creative genius behind this wonderful tv show. And he certainly deserves the recognition (maybe wearing a BtVS Genius t-shirt) for the photo shoot? I wonder: What were Joss Whedon's favorite childhood readings? What books of fantasy/horror/science fiction laid the groundwork from which Buffy The Vampire Slayer sprung? funee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 18:36:30 -0400 From: nothoney@olg.com (slb) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! At 7:21 PM 7/4/97 -0300, Michael Thomas wrote: >ObBuffy: If I'm not mistaken, the Annointed One is little kid... How did >he come into existence? Was it like two vampires had "kids"? Can >vampires have "kids"? Also, why don't vampire hunters just put on a >metal neck guard when they go hunting? It appears he had a mortal mother. (She was trying to protect him when the bus crashed.) I assume he had a mortal father, as well. Vampires can't have kids, at least in most vampire lore they don't have them. They're not human; they just look human. As for the metal neck guard; a vampire could just as easily rip your heart out. Sheryl NotHoney@olg.com -- "That much quality time with my mom would probably lead to some quality matricide." Buffy, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" -- "I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if behind them they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary kindness and a little lookin' out for the other fella. ... -- James Stewart, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," 1939 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 17:53:09 -0500 From: "*Titania*" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! I have to believe that either the Annoited One is not a vampire, or he was made into a vampire when the bus was crashed. If you watch NKABOTFD, you can clearly see his reflection on the bus. Am I the only one who is thoroughly repulsed by the idea of a child being made a vampire? *Titania* ******* GASPer: Keeper of Giles's chin stubble Keeper of Angel's Secrets "That's great. I'll slay them, and you can fence their stuff." : :ObBuffy: If I'm not mistaken, the Annointed One is little kid... How did :he come into existence? Was it like two vampires had "kids"? Can :vampires have "kids"? Also, why don't vampire hunters just put on a :metal neck guard when they go hunting? : ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 18:57:45 -0400 From: paul bliss Subject: BUFFY: We Saved The World...I Say We Party! Hi! I'm Kim and I am new to this wonderful list. I love Buffy and was glad to hear that there is a list for this show. I am on the Kindred: The Embraced list and also love Forever Knight and Friday the 13th The Series. Julie F. told me about this list recently. I love every character on this show! I am a Fallen Angel and a Fallen Angel&Slayer. I love Angel and the romance between him and Buffy. Every time the kicking theme music comes on I am excited whether it is a new or old episode. I am truly happy that it will be back next season! The season finale was on the edge of your seat action... I hope you all are having a excellent Fourth of July! Xanderly Yours, Kim Fallen Angel Fallen Angel&Slayer *loves Xander's dance moves* :-) Lillie's Dark Embrace http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2659 under contstruction ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 19:00:57 -0400 From: Kamala Subject: Re: BUFFY: Batman & Robin & Buffy! In most mythologies the bringing across of children is frowned upon. Think about it he could be a 100 years old in a 11 year old body. Have all the urges and can't do anything about it. Look at Claudia. Kam At 05:53 PM 7/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >I have to believe that either the Annoited One is not a vampire, or >he was made into a vampire when the bus was crashed. If you >watch NKABOTFD, you can clearly see his reflection on the bus. >Am I the only one who is thoroughly repulsed by the idea of a >child being made a vampire? > >*Titania* >******* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:13:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Shelley Durocher u Subject: BUFFY: annointed one On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, *Titania* wrote: > I have to believe that either the Annoited One is not a vampire, or > he was made into a vampire when the bus was crashed. If you > watch NKABOTFD, you can clearly see his reflection on the bus. I'm not so sure he is a vampire at all. My take on the situation was that the annointed one is a kid with an evil destiny, kind of like Buffy in reverse. If it is one young woman's destiny to be a slayer couldn't there be a similar destiny to lead the evil minions (I love that word--minions minions minions). Shelley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:55:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Ruthie718@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: annointed one On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, *Titania* wrote: > I have to believe that either the Annoited One is not a vampire, or > he was made into a vampire when the bus was crashed. If you > watch NKABOTFD, you can clearly see his reflection on the bus. I think he was made into a vampire when the bus crashed. I know this is one of the really obvious alternatives, but I think it's necessary for him to be a vampire. Who else would take over where the old master left off? I don't like the idea of the master being resurrected though. Not after he got a stake through his heart - what would that say for all the other vampires Buffy had staked?! Anyway, I think the child is necessary as a vampire for now. Maybe he has to be a certain age to mature into a full vampire and that could be an episode some time. Then he can really take over for the old master. I mean, we haven't really seen any proof that he's a vampire already. - -sharon ruth (ruthie 718) ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #173 *************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-buffy": subscribe buffy-digest local-buffy@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "buffy-digest" in the commands above with "buffy". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/buffy/archive. These are organized by date.