From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #184 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Thursday, July 10 1997 Volume 01 : Number 184 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Giles & Buffy (was Re: Salon Article) BUFFY: "Read" posters Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? Re: BUFFY: Various topics BUFFY: BtVS FAQ repost 2/2 Re: BUFFY: Various topics Re: BUFFY: The Dubba dance Re: BUFFY: Giles and Buffy Re: BUFFY: SMG and Alyson in Top 20 site. Re: BUFFY: SMG and Alyson in Top 20 site. Re: BUFFY: Where did COLIN go???? Re: BUFFY: "Eww it's Illegal" Buffy w/Giles Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? (& Buffy's Fashion Sense) Re: BUFFY: Giles and Buffy BUFFY: keeper BUFFY: Re: GilesWear (Re: Book cage explanation) Re: BUFFY: new episode? Re: BUFFY: Hit the Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? Re: BUFFY: Leader of the Pack Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? (& Buffy's Fashion Sense) Re: BUFFY: Giles and Buffy BUFFY: Prophecy Girl - One more time! Re: BUFFY: Leader of the Pack Re: BUFFY: keeper BUFFY: keeper "again" Re: BUFFY:Scream/I know what you did last summer info Re: BUFFY: multiple responses and Flutie Sighting! Re: BUFFY: SMG and Alyson in Top 20 site. Re: BUFFY: The Dubba dance Re: BUFFY: How do you rate your Buffys? Re: BUFFY: Blood on the Saddle & Hyena Symbol Re: BUFFY:next season and one more pack thing Re: BUFFY:next season and one more pack thing Re: BUFFY: Re: GilesWear (Re: Book cage explanation) Re: BUFFY: mild mannered mannered zookepper by day, hyena-boooy by night Re: BUFFY: Joss Whedon, Ojai and Bionics Re: BUFFY: Prophecy Girl - One more time! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles & Buffy (was Re: Salon Article) At 12:08 PM 7/9/97 +0000, Robin Carroll-Mann wrote: >Buffy: News flash, Giles. I'm a blonde. > >Giles: (sighs, puts book down) *That* is becoming painfully >obvious. ROTFL!!! What is it about the Buffy & Giles team that inspires such witty faux dialogue among the fans? (I've seen a few others really parody their banter well too). Joss has apparently cooked up a very fertile (no innuendo intended) combination with his Dynamic Duo of Bookman & Girl Wonder. Formerly a blonde, Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:12:58 -0700 From: Kathryn Johnston Subject: BUFFY: "Read" posters Hello, all! For those who are interested, a few "Read" posters are on the ALA webpage at: http://www.ala.org/market/graphics/graphics.html I cannot make out all the books held by the celebrities but Mel Gibson has Orwell's "1984," Tim Allen has "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance," and Barbara Walters has "The Little Prince." From memory (they are not on the website), Ophrah Winfrey holds Hurston's "Their Eyes Were Watching God," Dr. Bill Cosby reads a Dr. Seuss book to a lapful of children, Patrick Stewart has the works of Shakespeare, and Sting has "Frankenstein"--but I could be mixed up on these. REM band members seemed to favor philosophy books, instead of novels. Obligatory library plug--visit your local children's/young adult library section for more! Or you can order the catalog at 1-800-545-2433, ext. 5046. Each poster costs $8.00. Kathryn, a librarian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:55:14 -0700 From: "Wien Huang" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? > In answer tp Wien Huang's inquiry: What or who is DeBarge? Please > refer to VH-1's "Big '80's" as a reference. DeBarge was a pop- > singing group from the early '80's. The look was characterized by > skinny ties, and sports coats with the sleeves pushed up. thanx everyone that responded. the reason i didn't get it cuz up until 4th grade i lived in my own little world, not realizing that i was missing on all the cool stuff of the 80s. obBuffy: why do the hair stylists on the show always part willow's hair to the side? i mean why are they trying to hide her widow's peak? Lily Keeper of Angel's Dresser "Giles, care. I'm putting my life on the line battling the undead. I broke a nail last night! Look, I'm wearing a press-on. The least you could do is exhibit some casual intrest. You could go 'Hmmmm'. "--Buffy "Hmm?"--Giles, Prophecy Girl, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:01:42 -0700 From: "Wien Huang" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Various topics > On July 8, Mike said: > > >I'll have to go back and watch my copy of "Angel" and see whether > or not he's thrown out by Buffy, or forced to leave due to being > dis-invited. < this was cleared up by some one on the show. lost boy, i think. he said that angel was thrown out of the window by buffy. and she uninvited him after he was on the grass outside. Lily Keeper of Angel's Dresser "Giles, care. I'm putting my life on the line battling the undead. I broke a nail last night! Look, I'm wearing a press-on. The least you could do is exhibit some casual intrest. You could go 'Hmmmm'. "--Buffy "Hmm?"--Giles, Prophecy Girl, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:09:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Cagey Subject: BUFFY: BtVS FAQ repost 2/2 This is a repost of the FAQ, but next time I won't split it right at the spoilers section so that people who don't want to be spoiled don't have to be (as if anybody on the list hasn't heard all this stuff already, anyway!). S P O I L E R S III. Buffyverse (note: SPOILERS AHOY!) A. How do I become a vamp? I *want* Buffy to put a stake in my heart! According to Buffy, "To make a vampire, they have to suck your blood. And then you have to suck their blood. It's like a whole big sucking thing." (WTTH) Buffyverse vampires are the vestiges of Demons who walked the earth in the age before Man (or even WoMan SlaYer). When one becomes a vampire, one's body is taken over by a Demon, and one becomes one without conscience, remorse, or fashion sense. (WTTH) B. What is the Master's problem? The Master Vampire came to Sunnydale, more aptly known as the Hellmouth, some sixty years ago to open a portal between this reality and the next. Unfortunately, he tried his little experiment at the same time that an earthquake swallowed half of the town--and him with it (HARVEST). Now he's stuck halfway in the portal, unable to break free and leave the underground (but he's got lots of groovy minions to rampage topside on his behalf). C. Who is that Angel guy? Why is he such a downer? The dark and brooding Angel is a vampire with a curse. When he chomped a Romani maiden ("Beautiful. Dumb as a post. A favorite among her clan....") her clan placed a curse on Angel: he regained his soul, but remains trapped in vampire form (ANGEL). Though he and Buffy have agreed that Slayers and Vampires can't date, they continue to cast meaningful glances at one another. D. Why is Giles a "watcher?" Slayers and Watchers come in matched pairs. According to the Movie, Slayers and Watchers are reincarnations of their previous counterparts, but Giles himself has mentioned that his father and paternal grandmother were Watchers before him (NKABOTFD). His task is to train the Slayer; fortunately for Buffy, she's already more adept than her tutor (PACK, ANGEL, etc). E. Hey! That's not right...! Was that a picture of Giles that Willow had in her locker in "Angel"? Yes, it was a picture of Giles and Willow. But as far as the producers are concerned, Willow does not keep a picture of our favorite librarian in her locker. So it was just a figment of your imagination. Exactly when is Buffy's birthday? Buffy's birthday has been mentioned on the show three times, once as 6 May 1979, once as 24 October 1980, and once as simply 1981 (Nightmares). Joss Whedon says that the 1981 date is correct. What is with those library doors? (thanks to Susan A. for pointing this out) Apparently Giles has been remodeling the library in his spare time. In WTTH, the library doors swing into the library. In "Puppet Show" they swing out into the hallway and the handles are now on the outside of the doors, though in "Angel" the handles were on the inside. F. Tell me more! Buffy's address is 1630 Revello Drive. Her father's name is Hank. The school scenes were filmed at Torrance High School, Torrance, California. The show is produced by Twentieth Century Fox, Sandollar Television and Kuzui Enterprises. Special effects are done by Area51/Optic Nerve Studios Music by: Walter Murphy Costume design by: Susanna Puisto Casting by: Marcia Shulman IV. The Actors "Buffy Summers": Sarah Michelle Gellar Born: April 14, 1977 Credits: I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) All My Children: Kendall Hart, 1993-1995; Ms. Gellar won an Emmy for her role in "AMC" Swan's Crossing: Sydney Rutledge, 1992 A Woman Named Jackie (1991) miniseries Related Web Sites: Bob's SMG Page: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5772/sarah.html John's SMG site: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/joloam/ The SMG Collection: http://www5.outwest.net/SMG/ SMG Fan Page: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/9910/ SMG Fan Ring: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/9910/sring.html ***** "Alexander "Xander" Harris" Nicholas Brendon Born: April 12, he is currently in his 20s Credits: Children of the Corn III (1994) Related Web Sites: The Babe Known as Xander: http://members.tripod.com/~AE_Collier/nicholas.html Billie's Nicholas Brendon page: http://members.aol.com/MBenvolio/harris.html ***** "Willow Rosenberg": Alyson Hannigan Born: April 1974 Credits: The Stranger Beside Me (1995) TV Movie Switched at Birth (1991) TV Movie My Stepmother is an Alien (1988) Related Web Sites: Alyson Hannigan Altar: http://users.twave.net/shrine/ahaltar.htm Willow Rosenberg, Hesitant Hacker: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7779/willow.html ***** "Cordelia Chase": Charisma Carpenter Born: Credits: Malibu Shores: Ashley, 1996 Related Web Sites: ***** "Rupert Giles": Anthony Stewart Head Born: He is currently 43, brother of Murray Head Credits: VR.5: Oliver Sampson, 1995 Royce (1994) Prayer for the Dying (1987) Lady Chatterly's Lover (1981) guest appearances in Highlander, NYPD Blue, and Detectives. Related Web Sites: Rupert Giles, Master Librarian: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7779/giles.html Sunnydale Library: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffy.html Fan mailing list: send a note with your email address to ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com ***** "Angel": David Boreanaz Born: He is 27 Credits: Married, With Children: Kelly's biker boyfriend Related Web Sites: Angel's Loft: http://www.angelfire.com/ar/mafdet/angel.html Angel Shrine: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8126/index.html Fan mailing list: send a note to titania@innocent.com for more information. ***** "Joyce Summers": Kristine Sutherland Born: Credits: Related Web Sites: ***** "Master Vampire": Marc Metcalf Born: Selected Credits: The Stupids (1996) A Woman Named Jackie (1991) miniseries Seinfeld : recurring role as the Maestro, 1990-1996 Animal House (1978): Douglas C. Neidermeyer Related Web Sites: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/8018/ ***** "Darla": Julie Benz Born: Credits: Inventing the Abbotts (1997) Hi Honey, I'm Home: ?? Two Evil Eyes (1990) Related Web Sites: ***** "Jesse": Eric Balfour Born: Credits: No One Would Tell (1996) TV movie Bloodlines: Murder in the Family (1993) TV movie Kids Incorporated: Eric, 1984 Related Web Sites: ***** "Principal Flutie": Ken Lerner Born: Credits: Related Web Sites: ***** "Luke": Brian Thompson Born: Credits: extensive film and TV credits, including these notable sci-fi related roles Dragonheart (1996) Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Jem'Haddar second in command, 1996 Kindred: The Embraced Hercules: The Legendary Journeys: Goth the Barbarian in "The Siege at Naxos," 1995 The X-Files 1993-97: The Pilot in "Colony, "End Game," "Talitha Cumi" and "Herrenvolk," 1993-1997 Alien Nation (1988) Star Trek: The Next Generation: Klag in "A Matter of Honor," 1987 The Terminator (1984) Related Web Sites: ***** Creator and Executive Producer: Joss Whedon Born: Credits: As writer Alien Resurrection (1997) Twister (1996) uncredited Toy Story (1995) Waterworld (1995) Speed (1994) uncredited Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992) Related Web Sites: V. FAQ Credits The FAQ may be found online at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html The BtVS FAQ is maintained by Cagey (cagey@geocities.com) with suggestions and corrections by Hendu (hendu@usa.net). Thanks to TV James for the miniFAQ which got us started. The following people have also contributed to the FAQ: Sharon Himmanen, Betsy Vera, Maureen Wynn, Leslie Remencus, Kira Chistiakoff, Pat Moss, BioHaz, Augie De Blieck, Jr., Tom Simpson, Sonja Marie, Seth Kaufman, Trevor the Starlet Priest, Brenda, Susan A., Alan "Anime Nut" Hufana, Violet Starr, Elaine, X-Lander, Scott Woodward, Lady Elendil, Brenda again :), Roselyn/SugarHI614, Joloam, Pamela Hodermann, Raven626, Lori Wellborns, John E. (a Julie Benz fan!), Titania. Special thanks to Joseph Northcott and Sharon Himmanen for technical help! Last updated 07/07/97 Please send suggestions, additions, corrections to cagey@geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:20:46 -0400 From: nothoney@olg.com (slb) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Various topics At 1:23 PM 7/9/97 -0700, Marie Patricos wrote: > But, now I wonder if he >had a choice (I never thought about the dis-invited aspect). Just for the record, it's "uninvited." You'll have to show me proof of an ugly word such as "dis-invited." ;-) Sheryl NotHoney@olg.com -- "Scary. I'll tell you something, though. There are a lot scarier things than you. And I'm one of them." Buffy, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" -- "A shaved puppy is a happy puppy." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 17:38:54 PDT From: James Walsh Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Dubba dance this morning i finally saw a dubba dance with smg (the one where she dances in front of a mirror) too bad i didnt tape it but i have yet to see nick or alyson in a dubba dance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:42:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "He's Dave" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles and Buffy But didn't SMG date a much older man during her reign as Kendall on AMC? DAve - --Life's like a movie, write your own ending, keep on dreaming, and keep on pretending. ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu ngand@manta.nosc.mil masc0221@rohan.sdsu.edu masc1296@rohan.sdsu.edu On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Lawless wrote: > PalOBuffys@aol.com wrote: > > Ah, but in the real world, where I'm 37 and SMG is 20, everything would be > > just wonderful! I do find it interesting that more women than men on this > > list seem to be comfortable with the older man/younger women relationship. > > Personally though, I think Angel is WAY too old for Buffy. Me and Sarah? > > No problemo! > > Well, the only problem being that you're 17 years older than her. Sarah > might have a small problem with that. > > -Lawless > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:49:01 -0400 From: Doyle Tatum Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG and Alyson in Top 20 site. > I don't mind. Since we were suppose to vote for Sarah last week lets > go to > Alyson this week. That is exactly the reason SMG is not number one yet. We need to concentrate on her (she has the most votes!!) until she is number one. Then we can go to Alyson and so on. - -- Doyle Tatum, RCDD NAR #70025 doylex@mindspring.com Member #554 NASA http://www.mindspring.com/~doylex RMR FAQ = http://dtm-corp.com/~sven/rockets/rmrfaq.toc.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:51:07 -0400 From: Doyle Tatum Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG and Alyson in Top 20 site. I voted for SMG last week and now this week. If EVERYONE in this mailing list had done the same she would be number one now and we could start on Alyson. This has to be a TEAM effort. It is not hard. - -- Doyle Tatum, RCDD NAR #70025 doylex@mindspring.com Member #554 NASA http://www.mindspring.com/~doylex RMR FAQ = http://dtm-corp.com/~sven/rockets/rmrfaq.toc.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:48:55 +0100 From: angela4luv@juno.com (Angela Mach) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Where did COLIN go???? But Buffy wouldn't be a vampire because she didn't suck the master's blood and in order for her to become a vampire she needs to suck the blood. she's stronger because the master bite her and some of his blood is in hers maybe...... Angela Mach 'aka' lilangelface ~Angel's baby! =)~ Keeper of Buffy's closet Keeper of Xander's sense of humor, good and bad side Keeper of Angel's sweet, sensitive side ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:50:41 +0100 From: angela4luv@juno.com (Angela Mach) Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Eww it's Illegal" Buffy w/Giles I think she and angel would make a better couple. they should be a couple!!! Angela Mach 'aka' lilangelface ~Angel's baby! =)~ Keeper of Buffy's closet Keeper of Xander's sense of humor, good and bad side Keeper of Angel's sweet, sensitive side ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? (& Buffy's Fashion Sense) At 03:47 PM 7/9/97 -0500, MR MARK A WENTWORTH wrote: >In answer tp Wien Huang's inquiry: What or who is DeBarge? Please >refer to VH-1's "Big '80's" as a reference. DeBarge was a pop- >singing group from the early '80's. The look was characterized by >skinny ties, and sports coats with the sleeves pushed up. Moreover, wasn't the leader, Something DeBarge, married to that Pamela DeBarge woman who wrote the book "I'm with the band: Confessions of a rock groupie"? I'm serious! (Or was that "DeBarres"?) Anyway, ObBuffy: I love how Buffy, while not buying into Cordy's superficial and elitist fashion sense, is nonetheless very sensitive to fashion and uses this knowledge frequently. The way she flagged the vamp hitting on Willow, the humorous accusation of a DeBarge resemblance to suggest "ancient." It reminds me of how Ian Fleming's original James Bond could spot a foreign agent by noticing mistakes in the man's outfit or in his choice of wines. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:45:58, -0500 From: GSSM83C@prodigy.com (JOSEPH NORTHCOTT) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles and Buffy Dave wrote: >But didn't SMG date a much older man during her reign as Kendall on AMC? That's what he told the tabloids, but SMG always said they were "just friends." You can decide for yourself. (Lawless, any light you want to shed on this, or is this getting too "indescrete" to speak of in public?) Joseph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:57:04 -0700 From: Matthew Hammond Subject: BUFFY: keeper Is any one the keeper of anyones rings. If not I'll be the keeper of Buffy's ring, The keeper of Willows ring, and the keeper of cordiliar's ring. They all wear a ring on there left hand in most episodes. Also Has anyone seen Xander or MIS C. wearing a ring? Giles does wear a ring but what hand does he wear it on. Matbe he's married! And Angel also wear's a ring some times but again on what hand! Mhammond@yesic.com Keeper of the BABES rings Willows ring Buffy's ring & Coedilia's ring ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:03:18 -0700 From: Kathryn Johnston Subject: BUFFY: Re: GilesWear (Re: Book cage explanation) From Sonja Marie, No putdown against librarians in general meant :D No offense taken. :) I just had fun challenging your image. By the way, Giles fits the stereotype of an archivist (specialist in ancient or rare tomes) more than a librarian. Although when I was in sixth grade, my mother asked me why I begged to go to the public library, instead of using my school library. I responded that the school librarian liked books more than people. Giles used to fall into that category. I think that he has changed--at least in regards to certain individuals. [See the end of "Prophesy Girl."] :) Kathryn, fated to be a librarian. [I began volunteering in the fourth grade.] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:04:15 -0400 (EDT) From: SMartin862@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: new episode? In a message dated 97-07-08 13:14:00 EDT, you write: << There's gonna be a new episode of BtVS? I was gone for the second half of June, and i obviously missed something. I have no idea what everyone's talking about, except that Scott said there would be a surprise coming in June. Could someone clue me in? >> They Will be showing 2 episodes a week starting July 13th (one on Sunday night at 8p and one one Monday nights) Shelley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:18:35, -0500 From: GSSM83C@prodigy.com (JOSEPH NORTHCOTT) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Hit the Jesse Jou wrote: >Not to start this again, but I believe that the final consensus was that >he was thrown out the window and that someone from the show confirmed >this (Lost Boy? Joss?). Unless Marie meant "Buffy broke her foot on his >butt kicking his sorry self out the window" in that understated way that >she has. Ohh, yeah. We've been here before. I'm sure the next time Angel airs we'll go there again. However, since I remained silent last time this came up, I will take a moment to mention that Darla left the door open in that scene. For Angel to have jumped out the window, he would've had to disregard the open door behind him, dropped Buffy's mom, and run _past_ Buffy to get to the window to jump through it. An off scene argument culminating in a judo throw out the window is more plausible, I think. Joseph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:18:38, -0500 From: GSSM83C@prodigy.com (JOSEPH NORTHCOTT) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? >obBuffy: why do the hair stylists on the show always part willow's hair to >the side? i mean why are they trying to hide her widow's peak? I've noticed, and really enjoyed, the way they make slight changes to Willow's hair as the eps. go on. A realistic touch. I don't think they're trying to hide her widow's peaks, but what do I know? I think Alyson's widow's peaks are the greatest. At first I wondered if they were natural, or created for the hair style. Joseph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:21:31 PDT From: "Marie Patricos" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Leader of the Pack >For just a moment there, it was important that Nicholas had several inches and probably 25-40 pounds on Sarah.< I have to agree all around that this assault was a fundamentally disturbing scene. What made it worse for me, was when I finally realized (I'm a little slow on the uptake) that Xander has full memory of what he did while possessed by the hyena, so he also has this little nugget of nauseau to go with it. Unfortunately, it also colored how I viewed him asking Buffy out in Prophecy Girl. Buffy may not know that he remembers attacking her but he does. I guess that's the beauty of friendship. Marie _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:30:46 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bjorkman Subject: Re: BUFFY: Who is DeBarge? (& Buffy's Fashion Sense) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Lisa Rose wrote: > Moreover, wasn't the leader, Something DeBarge, married to that > Pamela DeBarge woman who wrote the book "I'm with the band: > Confessions of a rock groupie"? I'm serious! > (Or was that "DeBarres"?) No. You're thinking of Pamela DesBarres (sp.), married to Michael, who was a musician with a popular '70's band. No DeBarges involved. jb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 19:33:09 -0700 From: Lawless Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles and Buffy JOSEPH NORTHCOTT wrote: > > Dave wrote: > > >But didn't SMG date a much older man during her reign as Kendall on AMC? > > That's what he told the tabloids, but SMG always said they were "just > friends." You can decide for yourself. i don't know how that rumor got out but SMG and Winsor Harmon have both said it's not true. You can read her statement about it at http://www.netside.com/~lawless/amc.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:44:50 PDT From: "Marie Patricos" Subject: BUFFY: Prophecy Girl - One more time! On July 9, Tina wrote: >I don't think Buffy's a vampire for one or two reasons< O.k., I have a theory about Buffy's newfound strength (it's not a good theory but I promise it's been well-thought out - and knowing my luck, someone already mentioned it and you can just press next on your toolbar). Anyway, I think that Buffy became noticably stronger because the Master was finally free. From the moment she hit town, the Master had been imprisoned between dimensions (for lack of a better word) and since we don't know what she faced before, I'm going to assume that she didn't notice anything different in her abilities (implying that the vampires she had faced before were of a weaker variety). Then with the shock of dying and being resuscitated (which I will always consider one of Xander's saving graces), she bounds up stronger than ever with her body compensating for the Master's new strength in this one dimension. Personally, I also think we'll be seeing Colin again. There have to be more vampires kicking around town, aimlessly, looking for a demonic 8-year old to lead them. Marie _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:11:55 +0100 From: angela4luv@juno.com (Angela Mach) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Leader of the Pack Well guess Xander wanted to see if they would say it to his face about what he done to Buffy and Willow. He paused before he said that.Probably wasn't sure if he wanted to say it or not..... Angela Mach 'aka' lilangelface ~Angel's baby! =)~ Keeper of Buffy's closet Keeper of Xander's sense of humor, good and bad side Keeper of Angel's sweet, sensitive side ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:02:36 +0100 From: angela4luv@juno.com (Angela Mach) Subject: Re: BUFFY: keeper You need to ask the list owner but i'm asking to be keeper of buffy's ring. you need to request to be a keeper of anything. you just can't claim it because someone else might be the keeper of it already. if you need help just email me personally and ask me about it. Angela Mach 'aka' lilangelface ~Angel's baby! =)~ Keeper of Buffy's closet Keeper of Xander's sense of humor, good and bad side Keeper of Angel's sweet, sensitive side ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 20:10:03 -0700 From: Matthew Hammond Subject: BUFFY: keeper "again" OK you said try again is anyone the keeper of Buffy's weapon chest? You know the one that she digs out the holy water, crosses, stakes...ect that she brought with her from LA. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:28:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Susan Cho Yuk Subject: Re: BUFFY:Scream/I know what you did last summer info On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Flagg wrote: > Ummm...where did you hear that Lacey Chabert is going to be in it? I > seriously doubt that, since she's off in England all summer filming > "Lost in Space" > Is it me, or does there seem to be an aweful lot of BtVS/Party of 5 > crossovers? I think I read it in EW that Lacey Chabert would be in it. Don't know about if anyone else has. Well, these women are up and coming actresses. Back to the Buffmeister: How do you suppose the town rationalizes the weird things that happen? Like the nightmares and in the finale. I'm sure other stuff was going on besides what we saw. I mean, I'm all for repression and denial. They're great tools. [I even bought the "Erica Kane forgot she gave birth at the age of 15" although the math with the story makes no sense.] Nonetheless, aren't we pushing it just a little? Also, I wouldn't mind seeing more of the town. my mind is chomping at the but to mentally draw and situate the town. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:36:39 GMT From: flagg@wwa.com (Flagg) Subject: Re: BUFFY: multiple responses and Flutie Sighting! On Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:53:05 -0400, Jesse Jou wrote: >Flutie Sighting: > but Ken Lerner, the actor who plays the >late Principal Flutie (with substantially bigger hair), playing a >disgruntled Lounge Restaurant Manager. =20 Here's the ultimate Flutie sighting....I believe he was one of a gang of greaser thugs , possibly friends of Fonzie, way back when on "Happy Days". - --Flagg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:35:42 GMT From: flagg@wwa.com (Flagg) Subject: Re: BUFFY: SMG and Alyson in Top 20 site. On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:51:07 -0400, Doyle Tatum wrote: >I voted for SMG last week and now this week. If EVERYONE in this mailing >list had done the same she would be number one now and we could start on >Alyson. This has to be a TEAM effort. It is not hard. >-- Sure it's not hard, but why bother? It's not like it's any kind of real organization running this 'poll', just some schmuck started a website. Big deal. So maybe she'll win this poll... the only people who will see it is the people who bother to vote...so like I said, why bother? It's not like a magazine or TV show that people OTHER than the obsessive fans of various actresses will see it. - --Flagg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:42:08 GMT From: flagg@wwa.com (Flagg) Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Dubba dance On Wed, 09 Jul 97 17:38:54 PDT, James Walsh wrote: >this morning i finally saw a dubba dance with smg (the one where she = dances in front of a mirror) too bad i didnt tape=20 >it but i have yet to see nick or alyson in a dubba dance Nick and Alyson were in that same one...unless there's a shorter edited version being shown. In fact, they're in every variation I've seen so far. My web page has a pair of animated GIFs of their short segments of the promo on the main page, and there are AVIs (1 min each) of the 2 main variations of the promo in the "promos" section of my site as well. - --Flagg http://shoga.wwa.com/~flagg/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:20:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ulysses011@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: How do you rate your Buffys? These are my rates for the show. "Welcome to the Hellmouth" 5 "The Harvest" 5 "The Witch" 3 "Teacher`s Pet" 4 "Never Kill a Boy on the First Date" 3.5 "The Pack" 5 "Angel" 5 "I Robot, You Jane" 4 "The Puppet Show" 2 "Nightmares" 4 "Invisible Girl" 3 "Phophecy Girl" 5 Diana Keeper of Angel's fear of Sunlight Keeper of Buffy's holy water Keeper of Buffy's job of beheading people "This is not gonna' be pretty. We're talkin' violence, strong language, adult content."-Buffy from Welcome to the H-mouth part1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Blood on the Saddle & Hyena Symbol Re: Did Joss conveniently switch into absurdist mode to get away from the fact that it's implausible that kids could kill their principal and have it be written off to wild dogs? At 04:52 PM 7/9/97 -0400, Jennifer Hawthorne wrote: >If I thought that was what he had done, yes, I'd gripe about it. But as I >said, in this case I think it's just willful blindness and covering-up by >the local cops. I don't think any reliance on absurdism is required at all. OK, several people on this and xmission list have mentioned this coverup possibility, which I think is very interesting, but equally improbable. Giles acknowledged that the pack kids were the last ones seen with Flutie, making them automatically the prime suspects. There were witnesses to this effect. The kids' bloody fingerprints are all over the crime scene. Their clothes and hair (in anything but a Buffyverse) would be full of Flutie's blood and flesh. Everyone knows they've been acting even more savage than usual, stealing hotdogs, threatening a mother (who may not have reported it) and a family in a car (who certainly would have reported it). Word spreads quickly in a small town. If they were not at least charged and tried for this crime, the whole town would be asking "What in the... ?" In days gone by there might have been a lynching. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:09:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Monet Subject: Re: BUFFY:next season and one more pack thing On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Lady Elendil wrote: Just think if it had been Buffy who > had gotten possessed. Think how scary that would be. Her Slayer > strengths combined with the strengths of the spirit (remember when Giles > sadi that they were individually almost as strong as her?) > The episode would have taken a whole different turn of events. What if > Buffy and Willow had made it into the hyena house. Do you think they > would have gotten possessed too? I think they would have if they went > after Kevin and Xander and the Pack. Where would we be then? The whole > school would be eaten alive! Although "The Pack" is one of my fav. episodes, I always wondered the same scenario. I, for one, would love to see Willow turn to a darker side---although I have a feeling we will see one in future episodes (you know the whole "leather" thing :) And Buffy, too. I wonder how the Slayerettes would've handled it...it would've been tougher and gritter :) Just think, Buffy could've done the same to Xander as he did to Willow and she would've probably jumped Angel's "bones" like Xander did to her. Oh what a scene that would've made! BTW, has anyone picked up the new "Seventeen" with the Spice Girls on the cover? There is a tiny article on SMG and how she works out. There is also a small pic next to it with her clad in a black, leather outfit, hair partly up, and standing in the Master's Lair. That's FYI...:p G :) ==================================================================== Xander: "So Buffy, how'd the slaying go last night?" Buffy: "Xander!" Xander: "I mean, how'd the LAYING go last night? No, I don't mean that either." (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) ==================================================================== monet@arches.uga.edu or gs01gad@panther.gsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:50:01 +0100 From: angela4luv@juno.com (Angela Mach) Subject: Re: BUFFY:next season and one more pack thing Oh yah it's on the YM issue. yah there is two pick of her in the mag. Angela Mach 'aka' lilangelface ~Angel's baby! =)~ Keeper of Buffy's closet Keeper of Xander's sense of humor, good and bad side Keeper of Angel's sweet, sensitive side ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:12:12 +0000 From: "Robin Carroll-Mann" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: GilesWear (Re: Book cage explanation) > By the way, Giles fits the stereotype of an archivist (specialist > in ancient or rare tomes) more than a librarian. Didn't Willow say in the pilot that the new librarian had previously been a curator at the British Museum? Sounds very plausible to me. > Although when I was in sixth grade, my mother asked me why I begged to go to the public > library, instead of using my school library. I responded that the > school librarian liked books more than people. Giles used to fall into > that category. Mmmhmmm. I don't think he was even a misanthrope -- he just wasn't that *comfortable* with most other human beings. >I think that he has changed--at least in regards to > certain individuals. [See the end of "Prophesy Girl."] :) Buffy and the slayerettes have been very good for Giles. They've opened a few windows, so to speak, and let a little fresh air into his life. Miss C. has done the same, and -- I hope -- will continue to do so. Also, the deadly-serious responsibilities of being a Watcher to the Slayer has pulled Giles out of the ivory tower and into an existence where his actions *matter*. I think all of his previous life was just study and research -- training for his role as Watcher. Now, lives depend on on how well he does his job. Just as the seriousness of being the Slayer has matured Buffy, I think being her Watcher has changed Giles for the better. > Kathryn, fated to be a librarian. > [I began volunteering in the fourth grade.] Robin, also fated. [I played the librarian in "Up the Down Staircase" in 7th grade] Hey, you wanna form "Librarians for Giles"? (With a little organizing, we could be an ALA Roundtable ) Harper *** Robin Carroll-Mann harper@idt.net "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams Harper's Bread Basket http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3967 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:00:08 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie) Subject: Re: BUFFY: mild mannered mannered zookepper by day, hyena-boooy by night >i think he found out when he was using his super hyena sense to listen to >buffy and willow talk. But Willow didn't say anything about liking him, just that he was being a jerk to her and she thought it was because of Buffy. Katie kmasters@rof.net http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother (He was such a cute baby, don't ya know.) Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish "I suppose some girls might find him good-looking. If they have eyes. Okay, he's a honey!" -Buffy, "Tha Pack", Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:14:44 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Joss Whedon, Ojai and Bionics >1) What's the deal with the cage in the library? I can't recall ever having >seen that before or since this ep. Was there an explanation for it's >existance? I dimly recall seeing it in Prophecy Girl when Ms. Calendar was doing that little thing. I rememberGiles walking into it and out of it. I'll check on my tapes tomorrow and check it out. Katie kmasters@rof.net http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother (He was such a cute baby, don't ya know.) Keeper of Buffy's Past Popularity and Nail Polish "I suppose some girls might find him good-looking. If they have eyes. Okay, he's a honey!" -Buffy, "Tha Pack", Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:21:54 -0400 (EDT) From: PalOBuffys@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Prophecy Girl - One more time! OK, I knew I could up with a better reason for Buffy not being a vampire other than because I just don't want her to be one. After being resuscitated by Xander she continues hunting the Master. If she had become a vamp by the Master's bite, why would she still hunt him? (that, and only half of the "whole sucking thing" process took place) Additionally, while on the hunt for the Master, she rather indiscriminantly kills at least one other vamp ("Oh look, a bad guy."), and isn't one vamp killing another for no good reason supposed to be a bad thing? Plus, through all of this Buffy is wearing her cross around her neck. No smoking Buffy flesh either, which is a good thing. Mike Keeper of Buffy's little white teddy bear Keeper of Buffy's beeper Buffy: "Why can't you people just leave me alone?" Giles: "Because, you are the slayer." --- Welcome to the Hellmouth ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #184 *************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-buffy": subscribe buffy-digest local-buffy@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "buffy-digest" in the commands above with "buffy". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/buffy/archive. These are organized by date.