From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #210 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Monday, July 28 1997 Volume 01 : Number 210 In this issue: BUFFY: Buffy FAQ 4/4 BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl BUFFY: Tidbits Re: BUFFY: tv guide (Internet BS-a little off topic) Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line BUFFY: New Buffy Page Re: BUFFY: Tidbits Re: BUFFY: Tidbits Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl BUFFY: Re:Commercial after Inv. Girl Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl BUFFY: past character sightings Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names) BUFFY: ComicCon Question Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names) Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment BUFFY: School Sign Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations BUFFY: wrong url for tv guide BUFFY: Recycled Vampires Re: BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line Re: BUFFY: Angel, Amy and other stuff Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question BUFFY: New Buffy Page BUFFY: The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List BUFFY: Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question RE: BUFFY: Music question See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:52:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Cagey Subject: BUFFY: Buffy FAQ 4/4 IV. The Actors "Buffy Summers": Sarah Michelle Gellar Born: April 14, 1977 Credits: I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) All My Children: Kendall Hart, 1993-1995; Ms. Gellar won an Emmy for her role in "AMC" Swan's Crossing: Sydney Rutledge, 1992 A Woman Named Jackie (1991) miniseries Related Web Sites: Bob's SMG Page: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5772/ John's SMG site: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/joloam/ The SMG Collection: http://www5.outwest.net/SMG/ SMG Fan Page: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/9910/ SMG Fan Ring: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/9910/sring.html ***** "Alexander "Xander" Harris" Nicholas Brendon Born: April 12, he is currently in his 20s Credits: Children of the Corn III (1994) Related Web Sites: The Babe Known as Xander: http://members.tripod.com/~AE_Collier/nicholas.html ***** "Willow Rosenberg": Alyson Hannigan Born: April 1974 Credits: The Stranger Beside Me (1995) TV Movie Switched at Birth (1991) TV Movie My Stepmother is an Alien (1988) Related Web Sites: Alyson Hannigan Altar: http://users.twave.net/shrine/ahaltar.htm Welcome to Willow's Computer: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lights/9251/ Willow Rosenberg, Hesitant Hacker: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7779/willow.html ***** "Cordelia Chase": Charisma Carpenter Born: Credits: Malibu Shores: Ashley, 1996 Related Web Sites: ***** "Rupert Giles": Anthony Stewart Head Born: He is currently 43, brother of Murray Head Credits: VR.5: Oliver Sampson, 1995 Royce (1994) Prayer for the Dying (1987) Lady Chatterly's Lover (1981) guest appearances in Highlander, NYPD Blue, and Detectives. Related Web Sites: The Giles Appreciation Society Panters: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Rupert Giles, Master Librarian: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7779/giles.html Sunnydale Library: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffy.html Fan mailing list: send a note with your email address to ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com ***** "Angel": David Boreanaz Born: He is 27 Credits: Married, With Children: Kelly's biker boyfriend Related Web Sites: Angel's Loft: http://www.angelfire.com/ar/mafdet/angel.html Angel Shrine: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8126/index.html Fan mailing list: send a note to titania@innocent.com for more information. ***** "Joyce Summers": Kristine Sutherland Born: Credits: Related Web Sites: ***** "Master Vampire": Marc Metcalf Born: Selected Credits: The Stupids (1996) A Woman Named Jackie (1991) miniseries Seinfeld : recurring role as the Maestro, 1990-1996 Animal House (1978): Douglas C. Neidermeyer Related Web Sites: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/8018/ ***** "Darla": Julie Benz Born: Credits: Inventing the Abbotts (1997) Hi Honey, I'm Home: ?? Two Evil Eyes (1990) Related Web Sites: ***** "Jesse": Eric Balfour Born: Credits: No One Would Tell (1996) TV movie Bloodlines: Murder in the Family (1993) TV movie Kids Incorporated: Eric, 1984 Related Web Sites: ***** "Principal Flutie": Ken Lerner Born: Credits: Related Web Sites: ***** "Luke": Brian Thompson Born: Credits: extensive film and TV credits, including these notable sci-fi related roles Dragonheart (1996) Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Jem'Haddar second in command, 1996 Kindred: The Embraced Hercules: The Legendary Journeys: Goth the Barbarian in "The Siege at Naxos," 1995 The X-Files 1993-97: The Pilot in "Colony, "End Game," "Talitha Cumi" and "Herrenvolk," 1993-1997 Alien Nation (1988) Star Trek: The Next Generation: Klag in "A Matter of Honor," 1987 The Terminator (1984) Related Web Sites: ***** Creator and Executive Producer: Joss Whedon Born: Credits: As writer Alien Resurrection (1997) Twister (1996) uncredited Toy Story (1995) Waterworld (1995) Speed (1994) uncredited Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992) Related Web Sites: V. FAQ Credits The FAQ may be found online at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html The BtVS FAQ is maintained by Cagey (cagey@geocities.com) with suggestions and corrections by Hendu (hendu@usa.net). Thanks to TV James for the miniFAQ which got us started. The following people have also contributed to the FAQ: Sharon Himmanen, Betsy Vera, Maureen Wynn, Leslie Remencus, Kira Chistiakoff, Pat Moss, BioHaz, Augie De Blieck, Jr., Tom Simpson, Sonja Marie, Seth Kaufman, Trevor the Starlet Priest, Brenda, Susan A., Alan "Anime Nut" Hufana, Violet Starr, Elaine, X-Lander, Scott Woodard, Lady Elendil, Brenda again :), Roselyn/SugarHI614, Joloam, Pamela Hodermann, Raven626, Lori Wellborns, John E. (a Julie Benz fan!), Titania, Lawless, Molly. Special thanks to Joseph Northcott and Sharon Himmanen for technical help! Last updated 07/27/97 Please send suggestions, additions, corrections to cagey@geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:14:45 -0400 From: Kate Subject: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible Girl that aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a doorway screaming "Buffy!" Can anyone confirm? Thanks! - -Kate Check out AngelusT http://www2.cybernex.net/~hrprobe/angel/index.html Home of the Shirtless Pic :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kiwi84x@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Tidbits Okay, I just saw the episode with the invisible Marcy for the first time, and I loved it! I mean, I love every episode, and this combined suspense and humor just perfectly! I started cracking when I heard something like this : Cordelia: ...to know that we share the same feeling deep down inside Willow: Nausea?? I was laughing throughout the commercial break on that. It was said perfectly. I felt a little cheated at the end when Cordelia, after beginning to show her true feelings, completely changed her attitude and insulted Buffy & gang. I guess she's a little naive. P.S. What was that episode called? P.P.S. How many episodes have been directed by Reza Badiyi? (He also directed a few episodes of the show Mission: Impossible in the 60's or 70's.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:09:48 -0600 From: Jodie King Subject: Re: BUFFY: tv guide (Internet BS-a little off topic) Just out of curiousity... I am a teacher with cable Internet access in my class. I think there are a LOT of students on this list and I would really love to know if you are kind of warned in school that there is a lot of BS on the net and that you shouldn't believe everything you read and that some stuff is better left alone. Is that part of your Internet training? Most of the high school students I know are pretty aware of the misinformation on the Net and what *is* and *is not* appropriate. Buffy is such positive show. I hesitate to use the phrase "role models" but it is full of good ones. I'd like to make it required watching for my classes but that might spoil the fun. I even like the way a lot of teachers are depicted. As for the principals....well not all teachers like the principal either. LOL Jodie Proud Buffyatric Defender of Angel's integrity Keeper of Angel's intelligence and wisdom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:26:15 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bjorkman Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Kimberly wrote: > One of my favorite lines from Buffy comes from the great Willow when she is > in the computer lab and tells Cordy to press the "Deliver" button and Cordy > pressed the "Del" button. There goes all that work :-) .....just makes me > wonder what you all feel is your favorite line from Buffy. Kimberly, there are choice lines in every episode, but my favorite is from "Out of Sight, Out of Mind" (aka "Invisible Girl") when Buffy spills her implements on the floor and Cordelia goes in front of everyone "Behold the weirdness." ObB: Anyone else notice that when the FBI guys barge in at the end of "Invisible Girl" that the telephone poles in the background seen through the open door (like, do you Californians still have those things?) look like crosses? jb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:28:03 -0400 From: Kristy Garvey Subject: BUFFY: New Buffy Page Hi! I'm working on a new Buffy page, and i was wondering if any of you could provide any advice on making it, or could suggest some good pages with stuff to use for it????!!!!!! PLEASE?????? Kristy G. *Keeper of Angel's Biting Wit* *Angel and Buffy's Maid of Honor* (At their wedding of course!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:39:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Huff Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tidbits > P.S. What was that episode called? 1) There is no on-screen title. 2) According to the Official Buffy Site. it's "Invisible Girl", a.k.a.."Out of Mind, Out of Sight". 2) I've also seen the variant "Out of Sight, out of her Mind". Robert Huff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:30:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Maria440@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tidbits The show is called "Invisible Girl". ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:33:54 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bjorkman Subject: Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Kate wrote: > I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible Girl that > aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a doorway screaming > "Buffy!" > Can anyone confirm? Yup. jb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:54:49 PDT From: "Maddy :)" Subject: BUFFY: Re:Commercial after Inv. Girl >> I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible >>Girl that aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a >>doorway screaming "Buffy!" Can anyone confirm? >Yup. Nope! That was Owen from Never Kill A Boy On The First Date. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:07:29 -0400 From: Kate Subject: Re: BUFFY: Commercial after Inv. Girl At 1:33 AM -0000 7/28/97, James Bjorkman wrote: :> I have a question about the commerical for Buffy after Invisible Girl that :> aired tonight (7/27). In it I thought that I saw Angel a doorway screaming :> "Buffy!" :> Can anyone confirm? : :Yup. Thanks, but I was wondering what episode it was from. - -Kate Check out AngelusT http://www2.cybernex.net/~hrprobe/angel/index.html Home of the Shirtless Pic :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:15:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Girljen296@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: past character sightings It's the strangest thing, but I've been seeing past Buffy characters everywhere! I think most people know that the blond girl from the pack is on General Hospital now, but just this weekend I saw the dearly departed principle Flutie in a prison on some movie, and then on Baywatch, on the same episode, there was the head cheerleader girl, and the blond guy from the pack...Is it just me or has everyone been on Baywatch...? girljen *keeper of Xander's Toga* *keeper of Angel's statue* Girljen296@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:51:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Girljen296@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations In a message dated 97-07-25 01:25:25 EDT, PalOBufys writes: << (Cordelia, Angel, Ms Calendar) could be replaced more easily. If I was to place a bet, I'd go with Ms Calendar as the first to depart. >> If someone is leaving it probably would be Ms. Calendar. Angel and Cordelia are both on contract for next season, so them leaving isn't an option. But I think I read somewhere that there will be love stories for most of the main characters. This could involve bringing in new people...thus creating characters to kill off. girljen *keeper of Angel's statue* *keeper of Xander's toga* Girljen296@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:11:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Girljen296@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names) In a message dated 97-07-25 07:02:29 EDT, biohaz writes: << > B) Join the Slayerettes NOOO! This one I do _not_ want to see happen. The Slayerettes are complicated enuf, they don't need a brain-dead member to join there group. >> I think that you're not giving Cordelia enough credit. You call her brain dead, but in the invisible girl ep. she is able to debate her point fairly well in class. And on several other occasions Cordelia has shown she is actually very smart. Try not to confuse self-involved with stupid. girljen *keeper of Angel's statue* *keeper of Xander's toga* Girljen296@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:06:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Girljen296@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: ComicCon Question In a message dated 97-07-25 05:59:21 EDT, you write: << The thing I have noticed is that Nick and Alyson are really going out of their way promoting the show. >> Does anyone know why SMG, ASH, and David B were not at the convention? girljen *keeper of Xander's toga* *keeper of Angel's statue* Girljen296@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:11:41 -0700 From: Sage Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question & Killer Line > ObB: Anyone else notice that when the FBI guys barge in at the end of > "Invisible Girl" that the telephone poles in the background seen > through the open door (like, do you Californians still have those things?) > look like crosses? Yep. I believe so... but I'm not sure I know what your talking about. We have telephone poles EVERYWHERE. The ones where I live are found on every street everywhere you look and at the very top of them, they have a horizontal wooden bar-like log thing. obBUFFY: I read the article on the TV guide site, and I didn't really get a "internet fans are wacko" idea about it. I didn't find it rude at all. It must really stink if people are floating fake nudes over the net about you. SAGE mailto:sbusse@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:15:23 -0400 (EDT) From: CREATVJUSZ@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment I happened upon this article while surfing the web the other day...it has some really great things to say about BtVS...so i snipped out most of the non-Buffy related stuff...thought you all might enjoy it... B :) _________________________________________________ The Uses of Enchantment by Ann O'Tate Television shows about adolescence in general, and high school in particular, have always been somewhat supernatural; how else to explain a host of teens inhabiting the bodies of people obviously half again their real age, or the curious warping of time, where major activities tend to cluster around homecoming, Christmas, and the prom, and these events themselves occur over and over again, allowing for a matriculation so unnaturally lengthy that it would seem to make manifest the common lament that high school is hell. Well, not if your ratings are solid, I guess. It is, of course, a specific sort of high school hellishness that's created the first Warner Brothers Network show to attract enough ratings and acclaim to distinguish it from the rest of the digital slop trough that undulates at the far end of the dial. Thanks in part to some savvy scheduling and a heroic marketing push, Buffy the Vampire Slayer looks to drive a stake through the heart of non-major network television's other teen-angst franchises, Beverly Hills 90210 (where the preternaturally youthful class has taken a page from the yearbook of Dorian Gray) and that gothic melodrama in Gap clothing, Party of Five. In turning a suburban high school into a scary-but-sexy battleground for good and evil, where Lycra-clad she-wolves, cheerleader succubi, and hunky warlocks go head-to-head with the brave and buff Buffy (though her most obviously gutsy act is a willingness to bare her navel), the show has created a hilariously accurate depiction of adolescence's psychic toll, if not its actual form. For that, one would have to go back to the sepia-toned moodiness of My So-Called Life (whose ghost haunts MTV to this very day) - a show whose untimely demise is unfortunate testimony to how accuracy fails as entertainment. A horrifically honest flashback to the stunning revelations of human cruelty that come with first dates and lunchroom hierarchies, My So-Called Life was emotional truth with commercial breaks - part spell, part curse. While it at first held the titillation of reading someone's diary, it soon became clear that, like most people's diaries, not much was going to happen, and what did would be incredibly, devastatingly obvious, especially to the people to whom it wasn't happening. Buffy borrows equally from the otherworldly antisepticness of Saved by the Bell and from Xena's feminist fantasy to synthesize a truth that doesn't exist in either of those universes on their own. To be sure, Buffy casts blindingly white magic (Sunnydale High appears to share the same dopplegraphic, not to mention the same campus, as 90210), but the monochrome faces that populate the halls are just a human gesso for producer Joss Whedon's ironically technicolor portrayal of high school's chiaroscuro nightmares. At no other time does life have the same clarity, the same sharp delineation of right and wrong and punishment and reward. The encroachment of adult responsibilities (and adult desires) onto what is still plainly, troublingly childhood, doesn't muddy the waters so much as provide for variation in torment and salve. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:54:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Xainith@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations In a message dated 97-07-28 00:50:03 EDT, you write: << If someone is leaving it probably would be Ms. Calendar. Angel and Cordelia are both on contract for next season, so them leaving isn't an option. But I think I read somewhere that there will be love stories for most of the main characters. This could involve bringing in new people...thus creating characters to kill off >> I dont think they would kill any of the popular charecters such as Cordy,Xander,Willow,Angel,Giles and of course Buffy but we might see a few more teachers and principals die.One of them might move away or something but i dont think any one is going to die any time soon but maybe in the middle or end of the new season. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 02:14:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Xainith@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cordy's kicking butt (was re. meaning of names) In a message dated 97-07-28 02:06:19 EDT, you write: << B) Join the Slayerettes NOOO! This one I do _not_ want to see happen. The Slayerettes are complicated enuf, they don't need a brain-dead member to join there group. >> What do you mean NO Cordy is smart and is popular enough to get infomation on evryone in the school and she has other capeabilities so dont judge her like that because she is a very smart person and can be good help for the slayerettes. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 02:27:28 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line >One of my favorite lines from Buffy comes from the great Willow when she is >in the computer lab and tells Cordy to press the "Deliver" button and Cordy >pressed the "Del" button. There goes all that work :-) .....just makes me >wonder what you all feel is your favorite line from Buffy. There are some Just out of curiosity, why do computers have two delete buttons? At least, mine does. I think. One says delete, so it obviously is one. The other says del and has an arrow with an x inside of it below it. I press that opne, but nothing happens. Oh, well. You probably don't care about how computer illeterate I am. obBuffy: In "Invisible Girl", did anyone else notice that when Buffy was completely silent and waiting for a clue to Marcie's where abouts, that the way her hair was blowing had a great effect on the mood and look of the scene? Where was the wind coming from? Also, Where were they in the "surgeon" scene? I don't think they were above the ceiling because when the MIBs came in, there was a door. Any idea to where they might have ben? The door seemed to lead to the street. Katie kmasters@rof.net http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Nail Plish and Past Popularity Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother Ask me about the BLS Newsletter "I'm not just some crazy person. I'm the Slayer." -Buffy, "Puppet Show" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:25:52 -0700 From: Lawless Subject: BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site TV Guide now has a Buffy features section up on their site. About 20 new pics of SMG and a voting section. A Buffy postingboard (boy, we could sure use on of those), and some stuff with vampire experts and other vamp-related stuff. It's at http://www.tvguide.com/tv/features/buffy/index.htm - -Lawless ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:15:23 -0400 (EDT) From: CREATVJUSZ@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: The Uses of Enchantment I happened upon this article while surfing the web the other day...it has some really great things to say about BtVS...so i snipped out most of the non-Buffy related stuff...thought you all might enjoy it... B :) _________________________________________________ The Uses of Enchantment by Ann O'Tate Television shows about adolescence in general, and high school in particular, have always been somewhat supernatural; how else to explain a host of teens inhabiting the bodies of people obviously half again their real age, or the curious warping of time, where major activities tend to cluster around homecoming, Christmas, and the prom, and these events themselves occur over and over again, allowing for a matriculation so unnaturally lengthy that it would seem to make manifest the common lament that high school is hell. Well, not if your ratings are solid, I guess. It is, of course, a specific sort of high school hellishness that's created the first Warner Brothers Network show to attract enough ratings and acclaim to distinguish it from the rest of the digital slop trough that undulates at the far end of the dial. Thanks in part to some savvy scheduling and a heroic marketing push, Buffy the Vampire Slayer looks to drive a stake through the heart of non-major network television's other teen-angst franchises, Beverly Hills 90210 (where the preternaturally youthful class has taken a page from the yearbook of Dorian Gray) and that gothic melodrama in Gap clothing, Party of Five. In turning a suburban high school into a scary-but-sexy battleground for good and evil, where Lycra-clad she-wolves, cheerleader succubi, and hunky warlocks go head-to-head with the brave and buff Buffy (though her most obviously gutsy act is a willingness to bare her navel), the show has created a hilariously accurate depiction of adolescence's psychic toll, if not its actual form. For that, one would have to go back to the sepia-toned moodiness of My So-Called Life (whose ghost haunts MTV to this very day) - a show whose untimely demise is unfortunate testimony to how accuracy fails as entertainment. A horrifically honest flashback to the stunning revelations of human cruelty that come with first dates and lunchroom hierarchies, My So-Called Life was emotional truth with commercial breaks - part spell, part curse. While it at first held the titillation of reading someone's diary, it soon became clear that, like most people's diaries, not much was going to happen, and what did would be incredibly, devastatingly obvious, especially to the people to whom it wasn't happening. Buffy borrows equally from the otherworldly antisepticness of Saved by the Bell and from Xena's feminist fantasy to synthesize a truth that doesn't exist in either of those universes on their own. To be sure, Buffy casts blindingly white magic (Sunnydale High appears to share the same dopplegraphic, not to mention the same campus, as 90210), but the monochrome faces that populate the halls are just a human gesso for producer Joss Whedon's ironically technicolor portrayal of high school's chiaroscuro nightmares. At no other time does life have the same clarity, the same sharp delineation of right and wrong and punishment and reward. The encroachment of adult responsibilities (and adult desires) onto what is still plainly, troublingly childhood, doesn't muddy the waters so much as provide for variation in torment and salve. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 02:38:37 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie) Subject: BUFFY: School Sign I know that the school scenes are filmed at Torrence, California, but I was just wondering, how do they get that Sunnydale High School sign up there in the front of the building. It's attached to the building, so they cant just take it down. Katie kmasters@rof.net http://www.angelfire.com/co/vampireslayer/index.html Keeper of Buffy's Nail Plish and Past Popularity Angel's Proud Adoptive Mother Ask me about the BLS Newsletter "I'm not just some crazy person. I'm the Slayer." -Buffy, "Puppet Show" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:51:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Girljen296@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Season 2 Speculations In a message dated 97-07-25 01:25:25 EDT, PalOBufys writes: << (Cordelia, Angel, Ms Calendar) could be replaced more easily. If I was to place a bet, I'd go with Ms Calendar as the first to depart. >> If someone is leaving it probably would be Ms. Calendar. Angel and Cordelia are both on contract for next season, so them leaving isn't an option. But I think I read somewhere that there will be love stories for most of the main characters. This could involve bringing in new people...thus creating characters to kill off. girljen *keeper of Angel's statue* *keeper of Xander's toga* Girljen296@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 05:20:35 -0700 From: Lawless Subject: BUFFY: wrong url for tv guide The URL I gave earlier for the TV Guide thing is actually a section of the main part, called, The Buffy System. The main URL is http://www.tvguide.com/buffy/ Sorry for the double posting - -lawless ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 06:21:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Iocaste@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Recycled Vampires So is anyone else amused by the obvious using and reusing of the same actors to play vampires? For instance, there's one guy who dies twice in Prophecy Girl -- he's the vampire Buffy kills in the beginning, and then he's the one Buffy kills en route to the library. And if I'm not mistaken, he's also the vampire Buffy throws off the balcony in The Harvest. All right, fine, maybe this whole post should have gone under a heading of YKYBWTMBTVSW.... Ann iocaste@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:01:41 -0400 From: apollobuff@webtv.net Subject: Re: BUFFY: TV Guide Buffy site Just got back from the TV Guide Buffysite. A lot of fun, make a beeline for Sarah singing the Brady Bunch theme (pretty adorable and funny). Also funny that only Lawless and I have wandered in so far, like two drunks crashing a concert hall in the morning before that night's performance. We both made posting mistakes and sheepishly had to cover our behinds with further posts...oh well, no shame in my game... Later (damn thing kept me up half the night) - -apollobuff@webtv.net Giles: "wel i.. i don't dangle a corkscrew from my ear" Ms. Callendar: "that's not where i dangle it" (hey Mike...sorry, just noticed yours...i'll change it tomorrow when i'm not so tired) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:16:15 -0400 From: Virginia Eveland Subject: Re: BUFFY: Question and Killer Line Katie wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, why do computers have two delete buttons? Computer have two delete buttons for the following reason. One delete button is associated with the alphabetical part of the keyboard, being that part with all the letters on it. You *can* and are supposed to be able to stretch that little pinky of yours that far across the keybaord if you use delete often. The other delete key is in the numerical keypad, this is used for the rapid (by those who know what they're doing) entry of numbers into things such as spread sheets, etc. Since the whole point of the numerical keypad is mainly to enter data (unless you play Subspace >:-) it makes since to have a delete key available without having to shift your hand away from the keypad. Boy, was that almost kinda correct sounding? (g) > > obBuffy: In "Invisible Girl", did anyone else notice that when Buffy > was completely silent and waiting for a clue to Marcie's where abouts, > that the way her hair was blowing had a great effect on the mood and look of the scene? Where was the wind coming from? My impression was that the wind was present to show that she was paying attention to the very miniscule things in her environment. If you are completely still, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to sense a change in your environment by the change in the air pattern on your skin. Perhaps that was what she was doing, as well as listening for Marcie. - -- Virginia Eveland dscully@erols.com UIN 1517244 Pretender,Slayerette, Bab5, X-Phile SYX, AGML, LGW, BLA, OBSSE, GASP Keeper of Giles's Inner Child Keeper of Buffy's Three Gold Hoop Earrings Keeper of Little Buffy's Dogeared Copy of 'Horton Slew a Who' - -- Visit the Buffy ICQ List http://www.erols.com/dscully/buffy.htm - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:02:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Vampyrslay@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel, Amy and other stuff This is my take on some stuff, if it's already been debated to death, then I'm sorry. Just wanted to share my thoughts. << In the scene where Amy is telling Giles and the almost dead Buffy what happened, she said that the switch took place a few months ago. Does this mean that it was her mom at the tryouts? If so, why was she screwing up? >> I think that Amy's body just wasn't capable of the kind of things that her Mom wanted to do. The muscle memory for cheering doesn't exist in Amy's body and it would take a long time to develop the proper muscles and stamina. (you don't learn to cartwheel really good in one day, for example) <> Just type what you want your signature line to say and save it as a .sig file somewhere that you'll remember where it is. When you want to use it just copy and paste it to your mail. <> I read something about that also. In the books I read, R.L. Stine, I think, the vampire gave the AIDS victim a bit of her blood. It wasn't a "whole sucking thing" but that bit of blood overran the AIDS virus and eliminated it. <> I have a thought on this. If Angel is a human who is possessed by a Demon, but got his soul back. That makes him alive in a sense. His body was held in stasis, without his soul, by the Demon presence. Couldn't they just exorcise the Demon? His sould would remain, I think, because of the curse. And I don't think he would age fast because he wasn't really "living" those two hundred or so years. <> Are we so sure he isn't evil? Remember in the Puppet episode (I can never remember the title) when Giles sees him standing in the doorway and the light from behind made his ears glow? Almost like demon horns, I thought. Just one more! Someone (sorry forgot to copy the line) asked how the aging of Colin would be handled since the real boy would continue to grow, but a vampire boy wouldn't. Was it ever actually stated that Colin had become a vampire? Maybe the Master was waiting for him to grow a bit first, and he is still actually human. I don't know for sure, anyone know for sure? Any takes on this stuff, I would expecially like to hear some opinions on the Angel exorcism idea. Vampyrslay@aol.com (Melissa) "I think I speak for the rest of us when I say, 'Huh?' " Buffy Summers, Invis ible Girl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave-Fu Master Subject: Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question Joss was asked that very question about why SMG and David B. were not at the ComicCon with their co-stars Nick and Alyson. Joss said that SMG was at a photo-shoot. I'm positive that he said the same for David B. Photo-shoot shmoto-shoot. You guys should've been there darn it!!! *just kidding* =) I guess I was kinda glad that SMG and David B. didn't show up at the ComicCon. Now, before I get castrated by most of the female fans of Angel on this mailing list, let me explain. IMHO, if SMG had shown up, I think her presence would've overshadowed that of Alyson's. And by doing so, I might not have seen the true Alyson shine through. I'll reiterate on an statement I had made earlier on, in that I think that Alyson's real life personality so much embodied that of Willow's in BtVs; that that what made her so cute, lovable, and accepted by her many loyal fans. Oh sure, it would of been utterly fantastic if the entire cast did make an appearance. And that may have given more than 15 min for the question and answer portion of the convention. And I could've gotten all of their signatures on the poster. =) But sometimes less is more. In this case, I agree with that whole-heartedly. *8^) Dave N. - - Get busy living or get busy dying. - - "He doesn't sound like a person who would have a hairy back." - Willow, BtVS ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu ngand@manta.nosc.mil masc0221@rohan.sdsu.edu masc1296@rohan.sdsu.edu On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 Girljen296@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-25 05:59:21 EDT, you write: > > << The thing I have noticed is that Nick and Alyson are > really going out of their way promoting the show. >> > > Does anyone know why SMG, ASH, and David B were not at the convention? > > girljen > *keeper of Xander's toga* > *keeper of Angel's statue* > Girljen296@aol.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:49:49 -0400 From: Kristy Garvey Subject: BUFFY: New Buffy Page Hi! I'm working on a new Buffy page, and i was wondering if any of you could provide any advice on making it, or could suggest some good pages with stuff to use for it????!!!!!! PLEASE?????? Kristy G. *Keeper of Angel's Biting Wit* *Angel and Buffy's Maid of Honor* (At their wedding of course!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:54:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List Hi all, Want a place to post you unfinished work so other can read it and help you get it ready for others to read? Then this is the place for you! This is where you can get your work critiqued, etc. We will except all Buffy and related stories and VR5 related stories (IF Oliver Sampson is the main character). To join: 1. send a email to buffy-beta-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA or S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA-DIGEST Thanks! (PS email me about the Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List if you are interested) Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Hi all, Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff. Check out our Home Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Hurry pickings are slim, once what's left is gone, I'll be stopping admission till next season starts. To join email me PRIVATELY and I'll send you the info on how to. Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles Coats&Ties "Because I'm English, I'm Strange Anyway" - Anthony Stewart Head (Giles - BTVS) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:05:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Xainith@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: ComicCon Question In a message dated 97-07-28 03:00:14 EDT, you write: << Does anyone know why SMG, ASH, and David B were not at the convention? >> SMG wasnt there because she was doing SCREAM 2. ASH and David B i dont know why. ------------------------------ Date: From: RemencusL@jsc.mil Subject: RE: BUFFY: Music question Ann wondered: >>Just wondering if anyone knows the band/song playing in Teacher's Pet, when Xander is blown off by the singer at the Bronze.<< The band is Superfine. They're singing "Already Met You" when Xander walks in. Leslie Natpack~HPotCoS~GASPer~AGA~Slayer LaremyB@aol.com or RemencusL@jsc.mil ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #210 *************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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