From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #19 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Monday, January 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 019 In this issue: BUFFY: Yet another new Buffy site Re: BUFFY: Buffy the Movie & Series BUFFY: Newly Designed Site BUFFY: Things I wish I had said to Alyson BUFFY: GASP!: More Info on ASH at NYC Con Re: BUFFY: Spoilers..none Re: BUFFY: Re: 2-Parter: Possible Spoiler Re: BUFFY: More on E! Online SPOILER Re: BUFFY: David Boreanaz Re: BUFFY: Buffy the Movie & Series Re: BUFFY: Buffy Fact potpourri Re: BUFFY: Spike glitch BUFFY: "Very Special Buffy" Re: BUFFY: Buffy Teaser BUFFY: thought..minor spoilers BUFFY: Peoples Choice Awards Re: BUFFY: "Very Special Buffy" BUFFY: ASHFC - Head Lines BUFFY: Website Update - Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! Re: BUFFY: Yet another new Buffy site BUFFY: Re: Spoilers - seventeen Magazine BUFFY: Music News BUFFY: AOL Buffy Chat BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:43:45 -0800 From: Leanne Shawler Subject: BUFFY: Yet another new Buffy site Hi all! First post here! Just wanted to say that my "Betcha didn't know Buffy was Educational" or "Giles' Stacks" site is now up ... I need some help with the Buffyverse side of it (take a look at the source code and find all the commented out bits) so if you can lend a hand let me know! http://www.znet.com/~volterra/giles/giles.html Leanne (who edited down her sig to 6 lines ... *phew!*) Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:34:08 EST From: RbSayre Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy the Movie & Series In a message dated 98-01-11 23:20:33 EST, fun-ee@juno.com writes: << Rutger Hauer's Master is dressed like an Anne Rice 17th century vampire.>> Kinda like Ford's friend in the Vampire club... "the only hope you have of surviving this is to get out of this pit right now & My GOD could you have a dorkier outfit??" << The movie vamps do not have game faces but they did have pointed ears and fangs, and they had the ability to fly, or at least, to hover in the air.>> I admit that when the series debuted I was bummed to see that they didn't look like that, but after about 20 minutes I saw that this is a darker sort of Buffy & it fit right in. But I love Pike's buddy- David Arquette- as a vampire... :-) Forget about Angel.... << Another interesting thing, in the movie, Buffy gives up her jock boyfriend for Luke Perry who plays Pike. Pike reminded me of Spike on the tv series. He's kinda like a James Dean outcast character. >> This is kind of random, but BtVS was on late last night, here in South Florida & I had been watching a Daria festival earlier in the day on MTV & when I saw Pike it hit me that he's a dead ringer for "Trent" from the MTV cartoon DARIA!! (does anyone else see that resemblance, know what i'm talking about, or have I just lost it completely?) peace, love, and funky sig lines rick *i think animal testing is a terrible idea. they get all nervous & give the wrong answers.* - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:50:48 PST From: "Avatar Solutions" Subject: BUFFY: Newly Designed Site Hey peoples.. Avatar here and I just wanted to announce my newly designed site.. futher improvements are still on the way.. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/3264/ Avatar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:56:28 -0500 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: BUFFY: Things I wish I had said to Alyson Once again as you all know I did talk to Alyson About a month ago and probably will never get the chance again and here are a few things I wish I had said(You forget a lot when your talking to a celeb) 1- I wish I had asked for an autographed pic of Alyson, Sarah, and Charisma 2- I would've asked for her email address instead of asking her to email me(She may still email me yet...but I am assuming she hasnt been online in ages because I havent seen her on the buffy posting board) 3-I would have asked her to marry me =) 4-I would've asked her if Ms calendar is a gypsey or something besides a technopagen 5- I would've asked her to do some thing like a camio for me like saying i am on the phone with my cousin Ryan or something(I know thats probably stretching it but thats a once in a lifetime opportunity? 6-I would've told her hi from more people I'll think of some more later - -Ryanh - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:07:00 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: GASP!: More Info on ASH at NYC Con Got this from the Planetx List: From: "Keith R.A. DeCandido" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: NYC CON INFO: Anthony Head and Little Nell (fwd) Here's the information, translated from the web site (which is =abysmally= organized, BTW): This is the Rocky Horror Picture Show Convention, to be held on Saturday 4 April 1998 at the Vault, a famous (or infamous) S&M club in Manhattan (the location of the Vault isn't given on the web site -- I can get it from a friend, though, and will post it here). The club -- an alcohol-and-drug-free bar -- will be closed to the general public on that day, so only fellow RHPS fans (and guests of the con) will be present. The evening portion of the con will be held at the Village East Cinema (located at 189 2nd Avenue at E. 12th Street -- that address also isn't on the web site), and will be that night's screening of the movie (presumably at midnight, though the web page doesn't say that, either -- notice a theme?). There are only 428 seats at the theatre, so reserve your tickets now. Tickets for the day part of the con are $30; tickets for the movie screening are $8.75. The package deal for both is $35. Sooner the better for reserving the latter. Events include: SHOCK TREATMENT with full cast Costume Contest Trivia Contest Individual and cast performances Chinese Auction Possible appearance by a star from RHPS (ASH, presumably?) Rare videos Fun stuff!! For more information, write to Bill Brennan, Larry Viezel, Mad Man Mike, or Alicia Wallace at quadprincess@cybergal.co or call Brennan at 908-241-5462. - ---- Hope this answers alot of questions! Sonja Marie - whtrose@eskimo.com, gaspers@eskimo.com Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) To Me About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" President of the Official Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club! President of The Giles' Appreciation Society Panters (GASPers) http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html Co-Owner of the Anthony Stewart Head and Buffy Beta Fanfic Lists - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:31:52 EST From: Kemilla Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spoilers..none I hope the writers at TV guide & Ckick TV are reading this: you guys give away WAY too much in your little synopsis's!!! I didn't want to know *everything* important about "Innocence"! ooohhh welll. :giggle: - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:36:00 EST From: Kemilla Subject: Re: BUFFY: Re: 2-Parter: Possible Spoiler P S O P S O S I I L B E L R E << I'm a sucker for tall, dark, handsome, and mysterious. I am just wondering if there is anyone else out there that feels the same way. >> you are NOT alone...especially when it comes to...Angel. Would the show be as good if there was no Angel? (sorry..as good as the show is..it just wouldn't be the same without him..) - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:00:34 EST From: Kemilla Subject: Re: BUFFY: More on E! Online SPOILER S P O I L E R S O N 2 P A R T E R >>"I was there with you inmind--which is why I battled the crowd to make my way over to Angel (Buffy's DavidBoreanaz). ....David would neither confirm nor deny. >> So what do you have to do to get a job like hers????? ...sigh... - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:08:13 EST From: Kemilla Subject: Re: BUFFY: David Boreanaz << Hello, but David Boreanaz is supposedly going to be on Live with Regis and Kathie Lee on the 12th(Monday). >> ::CHEER:: So they finally got my threatning emails (j/k.sortof)...and I finally know about an interview befoe it happens!! :)) thanks! ;) - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:10:24 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy the Movie & Series At 11:34 PM 1/11/98 EST, RbSayre wrote: >In a message dated 98-01-11 23:20:33 EST, fun-ee@juno.com writes: ><< Rutger Hauer's Master is dressed like an Anne Rice 17th century vampire.>> Hmmm, I have no idea where this thread started, but this line reminds me of the rumor that Anne Rice wrote the character of Lestat while imagining that he would look like a young Rutger Hauer (and was thus initially outraged when (then) toyboy Tom Cruise landed the movie role). ObBuffy: I've always thought it was interesting that Donald Sutherland played a vampire killer (watcher) in the Buffy movie and his son played a vampire in The Lost Boys. Too bad they couldn't both make a guest appearance on the Buffy TV series as a father/son demonic pair of some kind. That would be delightfully tongue-in-cheek campy. Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:15:14 EST From: Kemilla Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Fact potpourri << •David Boreanaz listed as one of the Top 20 Guys in Entertainment by Twist magazine in their December issue. >> He was also listed as: - -character most bite-worthy(or something like that) :Angel - EW best of '97 - -#3 on the "Sexiest TV Stars on TV guide's on-line poll" BTW, did anyone here ever watch Married with children..and see the episode he was in (Kelly's ex-boyfriend that she runs into at the movie theater while she's there with her brother)? - -of everyone I know, i know the most about the stupidest things...but ask me to do division in my head...hah! - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:18:07 EST From: Kemilla Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spike glitch << In the episode School Hard Spike said and I quote, "I was actually at > Woodstock, that was a weird gig. I fell off flower person and spent the > next 6 hours watching my hand move." >> he was saying.."I fed off a flower person & spent the next six hours watching my hand move..." -from the psychedelic drugs the flower person was on. - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:31:28 -0500 From: "J. Andrew Lipscomb" Subject: BUFFY: "Very Special Buffy" What is the source of the common assumption that a "very special episode" would mean one where Buffy loses her virginity? The term is commonly used to mean an episode of a show that goes off to explore some serious real-world issue, usually without any real connection to the storyline of the series. J. Andrew Lipscomb ewwa@chattanooga.net Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:26:43 EST From: Kemilla Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Teaser i dont think this is a spoiler but ive been warned so.... >>> What the heck?! Angel? Dust? AAAHH! I seriously doubt that this really happened. It must have been a dream or something. I reeeeally hope so. Please respond with your ideas. >> NO! that can't be right!! AHHHH! Here's a scary thought: Maybe when they first created the show, Joss put Angel on, and then when we were starting to like him, they kill him off..you never know...we're thinking "But you can't kill Angel, he's part of the show!" It's like when you see an ad for Melrose Place, and they say "Someone is going to die"..but you *know* that noone important is going to die..you know that someone will almost die..and then be brought back to life in the next episode..so maybe BtVS's way of being different & unpredictcble is that someone important WILL die. ;( ?? - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:33:29 EST From: Kemilla Subject: BUFFY: thought..minor spoilers what would a gypsy do spoiler space Ok..I was just thinking of something...Angel was a vampire first, and then a gypsy put a curse on him to restore his soul..but his body was still dead... ok, so if a gypsy undoes the spell, his soul would leave, but he would be what he was before the gypsy spell, a mindless killing vampire. Still dead, but no soul. So, in an upcoming episode, would a gypsy just reverse the "curse" or would she put a new one on him, totally restoring his life?? - -alissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:44:58 EST From: Nicoley99 Subject: BUFFY: Peoples Choice Awards does anyone know why BTVS wasn't even on it? Is it because the WB doesn't count or what? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:48:34 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Very Special Buffy" At 12:31 AM 1/12/98 -0500, J. Andrew Lipscomb wrote: >What is the source of the common assumption that a "very special episode" >would mean one where Buffy loses her virginity? As far as I know, that started with the 90210 episode where Donna, the quintessential "not until I'm married" holdout, finally lost her virginity. The episode was billed as "A Very Special" 90210. And that would scan on this list, because we often hold 90210 up (fairly or not) as one of our worst fears of what Buffy could become if everything went wrong. (Though I'm not denying a supernatural 90210-esque sleep-around might not be a bit o' fun!). Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:55:07 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: ASHFC - Head Lines Hi all HEAR YE! HEAR YE! The ASH Fan Club is currently taking submissions for its first draft of the club newsletter, _Head Lines_. If you are interested in writing an article or column for the newsletter and have the time and dedication to manage it, please read on. Available articles (one-publishing only) include: 1) Convention reports (*must* be ASH relevant) 2) Reviews a) Buffy eps b) VR5 eps c) ASH movies 3) Crossword puzzle or wordsearch 4) Visits to the set (if you get to see a filming of a Buffy ep and these are printed as discretion of the editor) Long-term columns: 1) Taster's Choice serial (we need a *real* commitment for this one) 2) Fan fiction - possibility for a serial or for an "all-ASH" fanzine All material is published at the discretion of the editor, and full credit will be given on all submitted and accepted materials. The Club will not accept any illicitly obtained material, gossip or information about ASH's personal life unless given permission to do so by Mr. Head. ALSO: If you have ASH-related merchandize/tapes to trade or sell, please contact me. Likewise, if you would like to be included in the Pen Pals listing (email or snail mail) please contact me. _Head Lines_ is the official newsletter of the Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club, a nonprofit organization. _Head Lines) and ASHFC belong to The White Rose Inc. All Right Reserved. We'd prefer all submissions come from fans who plan to join the fan club when it starts, but we can discuss it if you don't actually wish to join, email me at gaspers@hotmail.com about that as well. If you have any questions or would like to make a submission, please contact: Sonja Marie, gaspers@hotmail.com President or Kim Sefcik, ksefcik@conninc.com (put ATTN: ASH/FC, in subject line) Corr. Secretary, _Head Lines_ Editor ________ Kim Sefcik, Richie Reservist (Clan Denial) ~ MFWC & PWFC ~ Wombat Extraordinare Chancer ~ Cousin ~ Early Edition Lover and Yet Another Bleepin' X-Phile Keeper of Giles' Past / Keeper of Angel's Lower Undergarments Secretary of the GASPers / Maintainer of the "Strange Luck" FAQ "I am Richie Ryan of the Clan... wait, can we try that again?" - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:06:50 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Website Update - Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! Halo! This is my usual Buffy Night Post: This message contains info on Sonja Marie's Buffy Links Page, ASH/Giles Mailing list, The ASHFC, GASPers, and the Buffy Beta Fanfic List. ***** Sonja Marie's Buffy the Vampire Slayer Links I have added 39 more URLS to my Buffy Links Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/btvsurls.html There are now 598 pages listed! And if you are so inclined, PLEASE sign my guestbook! If you have a page for the show or cast members and IT IS NOT LISTED already, please send me the URLS and I will add them. ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List Are you a fan of Anthony Stewart Head? Giles? Oliver from VR5? Then the Anthony Stewart Head List is for you! We talk about all his work, share fanfic stories related to Giles and Oliver, etc. To join: 1. Send an email to ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP or S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP-DIGEST ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) We (Kimmie and I) are very close to getting ready to accept money to join the fan club, $18 US a year, joining gives you the following benefits: The newsletters An autograph picture of Tony Able to send in questions to Tony that will be answered in the newsletters Contests (which Tony will provide signed prizes) And more... We have been approved to make merchandize that members can buy, such as: Shirts Buttons Posters Key Chains Bumper Stickers And probably more... This will only be availible to members of the ASHFC (though the GASP! merchandise will be availible to the members of the internet club.) For GASP! and the internet Buffy community, we are planning a net auction for one of Tony's favourite charities, for which he'll donate items for. If you are interested in joining the ASHFC (The Official Anthony Stewart Head (Offline) Fan Club), please email me your REAL NAME and email address PRIVATELY, and once I get the PO box set up, I'll email you with the form to fill out to join, the address to mail your check to join, and the name to make the check out to. Kim and I are looking at a Feb. start date, hopefully in time to coincide with Anthony's 44th Birtday on Feb. 20th. More later! ***** Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff. Check out our Home Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html (PS - there is a picture of me and Anthony on the front page :D). IMPORTANT NOTE: Only those who email me about becoming GASPers and follow the directions I send them will be considered real Keepers in my eyes. To join email me PRIVATELY at gaspers@eskimo.com and I'll send you the info on how to join. ***** The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List Want a place to post you unfinished work so other can read it and help you get it ready for others to read? Then this is the place for you! This is a place where you can get your work critiqued, etc. We will except all Buffy and related stories and VR5 related stories (IF Oliver Sampson is the main character). To join: 1. send a email to buffy-beta-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA or S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA-DIGEST Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 04:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: Sakina Fakhri Subject: Re: BUFFY: Yet another new Buffy site I also have another Buffy page. The address is: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7622 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:35:40 EST From: "Angel Williams" Subject: BUFFY: Re: Spoilers - seventeen Magazine Kate wrote: >Sorry, sweety. That ep's been and gone. Halloween? Yes indeedy, but the curse >was destroyed and Giles got to beat a guy up. Well, Kate, had you happened to actually take the time to read what she actually wrote, you would have noticed that it was taken out of the newly release Seventeen Magazine. Therefore, this episode that she was talking about, was, as she put it, anticipated, and could not be Hallowe'en (as she said, it was LIKE Hallowe'en.) Please read and comprehend things before you say something like YOU'RE WRONG.... Angel angel__63@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: From: RemencusL@jsc.mil Subject: BUFFY: Music News Thanks to everyone who posted about the MTV Music News and a possible new Buffy band. I missed that clip this weekend. I've been updating the Buffy Music Website again. There isn't much to add until we get new episodes (like tonight ), but there is some news for any of you in Southern California. Four Star Mary Performance Friday, January 16!! Moguls 1650 Schrader Blvd Hollywood, CA 90028 (213)465-7449 Four Star Mary is the band playing for "Dingoes Ate My Baby" (Devon and Oz's band) in Inca Mummy Girl. Two of the band's songs are featured in the episode, "Shadows" and "Fate." I hope some of you out there on the West Coast can enjoy the show. Leslie Natpack~HPotCoS~GASPer~AGA~Slayer~BotCoJ Buffy Music--http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8864/music.htm "I am the Bug Man, coo coo ca-choo." --Xander, BtVS LaremyB@aol.com or RemencusL@jsc.mil - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:00:47 EST From: CatDancer8 Subject: BUFFY: AOL Buffy Chat There will be an AOL Buffy chat at 9:00PM EST. The Time has been kinda switched around by DWO but this will be the chat time. It will be this time until I can work out a better time. We need all the attendence we can get or we will loose our chat. Please attend if you can. For some, this may be a "Buffy" time and that I why I ask that we change it. Please attend by going to: Keyword: Digital Worlds>(choose the button) Schedules and Cafe>Chat Here>Digital Worlds Cafe. If you have any problem with these directions please let me know. You can use this KW also: aol://4344:3213.chatcent.21635737.564812818 if it doesn't work, please let me know. Hope to see you at the chat!!! - -Michelle. The Buffy Cross & Stake http://members.aol.com/aglx/main.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:16:37 -0500 From: sah (by way of sah ) Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules Welcome! This list is for discussion of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer," both the TV series and the movie. The address to post messages to the list is BUFFY@XMISSION.COM. The buffy FAQ can be found at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html. Please check it out ASAP--Cagey has done a wonderful job with it and it will answer a bunch of your questions about the show and fandom. PLEASE READ THE FAQ before posting questions to the list-- many common questions are covered there. Because we want this list to be a great place to talk about "Buffy," we are setting up a few ground rules. If you've ever been involved in a discussion list, many of these rules will look familiar. 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