From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #28 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, January 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 028 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: BW: Bad Eggs - Willow? BUFFY: SPOILERS for Jan. 27 BUFFY: British Buffy fan needs tapes!! BUFFY: bad eggs,...bad episode.... BUFFY: intro BUFFY: Photos from 2 parter BUFFY: Bad Mom BUFFY: Re: Various II BUFFY: Buffy Mention on XF Top 20 List Re: BUFFY: What Exactly Is A Vampire? Re: BUFFY: Telephone repairmen? Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Senses-Bad Eggs & Rambles Re: BUFFY: Xander Christian? (Various II) BUFFY: mall food Re: BUFFY: Angel & fatherhood BUFFY: buffy and angel possible Spoiler Re: BUFFY: What Exactly Is A Vampire? Re: BUFFY: Review--Bad Eggs. **SPOILERS!!** BUFFY: Nicholas Brendon in TV Guide Re: BUFFY: BW: Bad Eggs - Willow? BUFFY: a message I thought I should pass on... Re: BUFFY: What Exactly Is A Vampire? BUFFY: Spoilers _Speculation-Upcoming 2 parter Re: BUFFY: Review--Bad Eggs. **SPOILERS!!** BUFFY: Sarah In US Magazine See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:15:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeff R. Harris" Subject: Re: BUFFY: BW: Bad Eggs - Willow? On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, SnOwBaLL30 wrote: > Anyway..On to my question...When Willow said that her egg was Jewish...Does > that mean that SHE is jewish? > And what about Xander..Both of them have INCREDIBLY Jewish names...Harris and > Rosenburg...You could not possibly get anymore Jewish. > Does anyone know for sure? > Since when has Harris been an incredibly jewish last name. I've never even heard of that, much less seen any evidence of it. Not to say Xander couldn't be, although I tend to doubt it from some the things he said in the episode. Jeff Harris - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:01:03 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: SPOILERS for Jan. 27 From the Jam!TV listings, here is the description for the episode on January 27: S P O I L E R S P A C E H E R E Buffy the Vampire Slayer Phases Program Type: Network Series / Adventure Parental Guidance: TV-PG Buffy (Sarah Michelle Gellar) protects a werewolf from a poacher; Willow (Alyson Hannigan) becomes interested in Oz (Seth Green), much to Xander's (Nicholas Brendon) dismay. (1 hr.) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:15:10 +0100 From: David Hughes Subject: BUFFY: British Buffy fan needs tapes!! Hi folks, Just wondering if anyone out there is able to supply second and even first season Buffy tapes to a sad British fan who's about a YEAR AND A HALF behind due to appalling TV scheduling. Can you believe, we just aired the first episode last week??? Take pity on me! I'll trade you for anything that airs in the UK you can't get wherever you are (I have cable, etc.), and since I quite often interview genre TV celebrities in my line of work (freelance magazine writer), I might be able to set up a really special trade... Can't wait to hear from someone! Cheers for now, |\ . | |_)(\\/|(| David Hughes - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:47:41 -0500 From: QUEEN C Subject: BUFFY: bad eggs,...bad episode.... At first I thought I liked this episode, but the more I think about it, there were two stories going on at the same time and neither of them had anything to do with each other. The cowboy vampires, the freaky eggs,....what do they have to do with one another? Nothing. Giving each one their own episode may have worked, but the two of them together just didn't do it for me. There were a few highlights ofcourse, (i.e. Xander and Cordy in class) and Angel as usual, but this one was just missing something. just my 2 cents. **************************** Buffy the Vampire Slayer Monday 9:00p.m. on the WB network "Feels like home,...if it's the 50's and you're a psycho."--Cordelia Chase Keeper of Cordelia's Adidas Sneakers **************************** - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:49:30 -0500 From: Carolyn or Paul Subject: BUFFY: intro Hey Buff-o-philes: I just joined the other day and am finding the list quite entertaining so far. Lots of fun and lots of great opinions, questions and comments. Keep em coming. Im Carolyn, a 34 year old Canadian who loves all things horror and especially the use of humour and horror together. So, it is just natural that I love seeing Buffy kick vampire ass every week. I like how the storyline has progressed since last season and I think that is contributing greatly to the popularity of the show. Anyway...I have a few comments (sorry for the format of my post but it is a drag to reply on digests.) You wrote: >> Why should the demon inhabiting Drusilla care what >> (the demon inhabiting) Angel did to Drusilla's mother, uncle and so on? From how I figure it, Angel killed Dru's family before he bit her. This drove her insane. Her vampire qualities are exagerated because she was crazy before. You wrote: >Okay there has been a lot of specualtion on Buffy's sensing powers. In 'Bad Eggs' she sensed the spider-thing on the bedroom wall behind her..turned quickly and hit it dead-on. You wrote: > adding music by Rev. Marilyn Manson and losing all this skater crap would be great. I think that it wouldnt fit the tone of the show. Buffy is fun because it is campy. Nothing against Marilyn but he might be just a bit too heavy. I dont see Buffy in a gothic sense just because it has vampires in it. You wrote: >Its because Buffy isn't very popular nationally. It only gets 5-6 million >viewers. Thats hardly anyone when you compare it to a hit show like Home >Improvement or Friends. HM and Friends have been on for many more seasons than Buffy has. The shows popularity is definately going up....the net has a lot to do with that too. Also tons of publicity lately (someone posted all of the casts appearances in this week alone...never mind magazines). SMG's part in a very popular movie doesnt hurt either :) By the way, I get Buffy 3 times a week here! (twice on YTV and once on CFPL/BBS) You wrote: >If you want to know what a vampire is watch "Real Vampires...Exposed!" next >Tuesday at 8/7 on UPN. Its a documentary that will showcase real vampires. I belong to a few other horror/vampire/fan, etc mailing lists and quite a few members follow a goth lifestyle. One poster said that she was asked to be interviewed for this program. She said they wanted to watch her put on her makeup and go out with her to a goth club. She refused. She didnt want to be exploited, but also because she is a writer and they would merely end up with footage of her sitting at her desk in front of a computer. Some of the members have teeth, etc, but stress that goth is a culture that goes beyond being a 'real vampire'. Unfortunately, I dont get the channel so I cant check it out for myself :( Have Fun! Carolyn - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:29:46 EST From: RayneFire Subject: BUFFY: Photos from 2 parter There are two new photos on Business Wire dealing with the upcoming 2 part Buffy! The photos don't give anything away, but the caption gives some mini- spoilers. You can find the photo at this addy: http://www.businesswire.com/photowire/pw.011498 ********SPOILERS******** Caption reads: A SPECIAL TWO NIGHT EVENT ON "BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER" -- In part one of a pivotal two-parter, Buffy (Sarah Michelle Gellar) and Angel (David Boreanaz) take their relationship to an intimate new level, setting in motion a heart- wrenching chain of events that will alter their lives forever in the "Surprise" episode of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" airing Monday, January 19 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) on The WB. The riveting conclusion, "Innocence," airs the following night, Tuesday, January 20 (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) when the series joins the network's New Tuesday line-up. Photos (left to right): Sarah Michelle Gellar, David Boreanaz. Rayne Keeper of Willow's Animal Slippers Keeper of Buffy's Stuffed Pig, Mr. Gordo Keeper of Spike's Trench Coat - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:05:17 -0500 (EST) From: Muse of Fire Subject: BUFFY: Bad Mom Hi folks! I've been lurking on the list for a while, but after seeing so many of my fellow Highla-l people post lately (alas, I've been gone from there for a while now...) I just had to throw in my own $.02 :) Sandy Fields wrote: > I think Joyce is a perfect example of a single mom who feels totally > inadequate when it comes to being a parent to Buffy. Absolutely. I've gotten the impression in several episodes that she doesn't *like* laying too many ground rules, but she feels like she has no other option. All she knows is that Buffy stays out late, has weird friends, and is not the favorite student of the principal. I think her usual reaction of coming down hard on Buffy is sad, but understandable. > The problem is... this was the perfect time for her to *really* be a mother. > The bump on Buffy's head, the "gas leak", etc. were what she should have > been focusing on. YES. That bothered me. I expected her to just be glad that Buffy was relatively ok, and to worry about the bump on her forehead, and hug her and take her home. I also expected Buffy to come up with a better story, like, the gas overtook her while she in another part of the school before she could get to the library (as "evidenced" by the bump that she got on her head when she was rendered unconscious by the gas and fell and hit her head on the locker) - or at least some other similar story. > But with Buffy, I can well imagine that "let Mommy kiss > it and make it better" never amounted to much -- even when she was small; so > that kind of mothering went out of their relationship so long ago that Joyce > simply doesn't know how anymore. That's probably true. But even then, especially after the whole Ted thing, I would have expected Joyce to be a little more sympathetic and protective. BEFORE the Ted thing I might have expected her to be a little harsh. Otherwise, I enjoyed the banter in the ep, and I loved the cowboy and Buffy alternating fighting the "zombies" and then each other. Very cute. ========================================================================== Christina Madelon Robertson-Goddard *** Muse of Fire *** Atlanta,GA crobert@emory.edu or cgoddard@law.emory.edu AOL Instant Messenger nick: MuseOFire1 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Quote of the week: "I always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific." --Lily Tomlin ========================================================================== - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:14:52 +0000 From: "Amy Sheldon" Subject: BUFFY: Re: Various II WiliQueen@aol.com wrote: > ...we have hints that Willow's parents are a little on the > stricter side [snip backup material], but how on earth > does she get away with all the late-night running around required for her > Slayerette duties? This one I can answer from personal experience. Yes, I, too, was a Willow-ish high school nerd girl. I never got into trouble, all A's on the report card, teachers thought I was wonderful, etc. What that meant was that by the time I was a junior, my parents (although also quite strict) pretty much trusted me not to get into trouble. If I said, "Mom, I'm spending the night at my friend Buffy's house," she'd reply, "Fine. Will you be having supper with us, or over there?" She would have never considered checking to see if I actually was at Buffy's house. If I stayed late at school to research the lastest mystic threat to the world, a fast phone call saying, "I'm working on a special project in the library and I'll be late. Cordelia will drive me home, so you don't have to pick me up," would take care of everything. As long as Willow keeps her grades up and doesn't get caught by her parents in any lies, she should have no trouble spending the occasional night out. - ------ Amy Sheldon Member GASP - Giles Appreciation Society Panters Proud Buffyatric & Keeper of The Accent Amy.Sheldon@sff.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:59:51 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Mention on XF Top 20 List Got my latest Top 20 and there was a mention of Buffy: TOP20 CHANGES IN THE X-FILES NOW THAT IT'S (allegedly) MOVING TO LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA... #6) The Chances for a X-Files/Buffy the Vampire Slayer cross-over just doubled. If you want to get the whole list yourself, email: RJCHRISTEN Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:28:58 PST From: "Mike Stone" Subject: Re: BUFFY: What Exactly Is A Vampire? >> Why should the demon inhabiting Drusilla care what >> (the demon inhabiting) Angel did to Drusilla's mother, uncle and so on? I >> would think she might even respect and admire the type of cruelty that he >> displayed back then. > >Ok, this may be a stretch but I think it works ... > >Angel tortured Dru before she became a vamp. She knew and resented him >before he "made" her. So the resentment she carries is actually part of >the "host memories and personality" that the vampire demon gets when it >takes up residence. Angel on the other hand killed his family after >becoming a vamp when he no longer cared about them. I don't think it's necessary to analyse this so deeply; Let's face it, Vampire's aren't exactly kindly to each other either. When I watched that particular episode, I simply viewed the torture as part of the upcoming ritual that had to be performed, and more likely, just for [Angel] being a traitor to his fellow vamps. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:56:26 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Telephone repairmen? At 10:07 AM 1/14/98 EST, CatDancer8 wrote: ><< <> >> >First of all, telephone repairmen don't just work at night, and Angel needs a >night job...you know...sunlight? Plus it's a very busy job, he would probally >get hungry somewhere along the line...and I don't think being in a house full These types of explanations are all very reasonable, but I keep getting the feeling that this is a humorous riddle of some kind, like "Q: What do vampire mothers tell their children? A: How many times have I told you not to run with a stake in your hand!" or something like that. I've been trying to make some weird connection with being impaled by the wooden telephone poles (or getting splinters from them), but so far nothing funny is coming up. Why doesn't the original asker just tell us the answer? Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:12:48 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Senses-Bad Eggs & Rambles At 12:39 PM 1/14/98 -0800, Kimberly wrote: >I agree. At first when I watched the episode I thought Buffy saw the girl >as a twin then I thought they both were vampires. Then I watched it again >and lightly slapped *grin* my forehead and went duh! Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only one who made this same wrong assumption at first. I also initially thought that Buffy looked over at another escalator, not a mirror, and saw a duplicate of the same girl. So I thought it was an episode on cloning (thus bad "eggs"?), or a doppelganger (evil twin) or something. But I couldn't figure out what about a regular twin would get Buffy so worked up. Then when I saw Lyle's game face, as he was about to bite the girl, it all suddenly dawned on me. Duh, indeed! I've looked into those escalator mirrors hundreds of times before! Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:05:24 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander Christian? (Various II) At 10:37 AM 1/14/98 -0500, WiliQueen@aol.com wrote: Considering that Xander immediately popped out with the >"teaching the eggs Christian values" crack, though, I'm guessing he at least >isn't Jewish. Actually I felt that line seemed somewhat awkward for Xander to say. I suspect it was written mostly to give Willow a chance to assert her Jewishness (indirectly). Joss seems aware of some of our undead question debates (from second-hand reports, or by reading the Bronze posting board perhaps?), and has been curiously answering a few of them in round-about ways lately (like the Angel fertility issue). I also suspect it was supposed to be a figure of speech, not an assertion of Xander's Christianity, because religious commitments of any kind don't really seem in keeping with Xander's character to me. Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:44:01 PST From: "Keenan Itwasalatenite McCardell" Subject: BUFFY: mall food Just curious here. What exactly is Buffy's "mall food"?? ITWASALATENITE Tha 1 and tha only keeper of Buffy's mall food, Buffy's dead Gigapet, and Cordelia's bogus parking ticket. - ---------------------------------- "It's all good from Diego to The Bay!" -- Dre Check out the pages: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/deucetre http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/8642/bshaw.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:38:08 EST From: LilyRei Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel & fatherhood In a message dated 98-01-14 09:32:06 EST, Sandra wrote: << whether Angel actually meant that he can't father a child; or that he can't bring himself to face the consequences of having a child with a human? >> I took it to mean he could not have children. Sort of like the Highlander thing. Maybe this ability is reserved for only the grand pooh-bahs . . . like say the Master (although this has NEVER been mentioned on the serious). I'm rambling. I'll stop. Angel can't have children . . . LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://members.aol.com/LilyRei/PAGEONE.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:49:02 PST From: "Amber Miner" Subject: BUFFY: buffy and angel possible Spoiler P O S S I B L E S P O I L E R Ok, Angel is supposed to turn all evil and join spike and Dru, right? He has been invited into Buffy's and Willow's room, and assuming one invite lasts a lifetime, they're both in a bit of trouble. Even if the two of them get away safe, what about thir families??? I love Angel (even if he does turn evil), Amber spirit_btvs_list@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:51:38 +0000 From: northcat@juno.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: What Exactly Is A Vampire? On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:53:48 -0800 bandr@impulse.net writes: >If you want to know what a vampire is watch "Real Vampires...Exposed!" >next >Tuesday at 8/7 on UPN. Its a documentary that will showcase real >vampires. Well, seeing as part 2 of Buffy is going to be on at the same time, I would say nobody on this list will be watching it. Real vampires....right. Dragonnrth-GASPer, keeper of Giles' office - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:01:03 PST From: "Mike Stone" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Review--Bad Eggs. **SPOILERS!!** > One of the things that has really impressed me about Buffy as a >whole is that typically the shows have several different plot threads >running, all of them interesting enough, and each of them given enough Agreed; this episode had more unanswered questions than usual. There really didn't seem to be a need for the cowboys to even be in the script, except to leave us unsuspecting of the creepy creatures around the corner. I suspect they put this episode together a little more hastily so that they could work on the much-hyped two part episode next week. > More than anything else, this episode felt like set-up for next >week. It seems as though most of the characters were in a holding pattern >as far as development went. I semi-agree here; the development has been going on for a little while now, but I don't think too much of what we saw in this episode is going to carry over into the next. > --Did anyone catch the announcement on the sign in the library >sign saying "Web site coming soon"? Was it the first time that's been >there or was it just the first time I saw it? Somebody else here noticed that as well. Let us know what you find out. :) > --We haven't seen Oz for some time. Or heard mention of him. >Maybe with the sweeps coming up, he'll turn back up. He's busy doing those Kodak commercials. :) I've seen a little bit of the members talking about what he's done in the past, and I don't recall anyone noticing he was briefly on 'The Wonder Years' as well as some other things. > >Final score: 6.0 (out of 10.0) > Eh, I'll give it a 7.5 :) Mostly for shock-effect and humor wrapped into one. Mike Stone, Ph.D. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:07:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike \"Nelson\"" Subject: BUFFY: Nicholas Brendon in TV Guide I don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but TV Guide has an article on Nicholas Brendon in the Insider section. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:08:29 EST From: VampSlayr6 Subject: Re: BUFFY: BW: Bad Eggs - Willow? do the actual crosses hurt the vampires (IE, the demon cannot stand the sight of something associated with God), or does it have to do with the person's faith in the object? It could be the first, cause in Nightmares, Doesn't the Master have to face a cross, and it hurts him? But if anyone has seen Interview with the Vampire I'm sure we can all recall the line that stated vampires are quite fond of crosses...but like we have said buffyverse is very very different!! Beth - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:34:42 -0500 From: twofangs/randi spiegel Subject: BUFFY: a message I thought I should pass on... Hi, This message just came in to me from the *BtVS-planet-x* list... Thought you might be interested... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:51:59 -0800 From: "Zippy" Subject: David online LIVE I'm a producer at Entertainment Asylum (www.asylum.com) and a fan of BTVS who reads the list. And imagine my excitement when I learned yesterday that our talent bookers had nabbed David Boreanaz for a live chat!! I'm really jazzed. I don't think it's 100% confirmed yet, so they = haven't publicised it on the site at all... but I *had* to let this crowd know. It's scheduled for Jan 20th, from 5:00-5:45 pm PST / 8:00-8:45 pm EST. He'll be in our Studio-I (www.asylum.com/si)... http://www.asylum.com/si which combines I-Chat and Real-Video... so you submit questions using I-Chat, and watch the whole thing live in RealVideo. You'll also be able to call in live during the show to ask questions. I'll let you know more as I find out... Hope you Angel fans will be there.... Charlie http://www.asylum.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * hope this info turns out to be true... confirm or deny anyone????? fading back into yesterday before tommorow comes, Randi 172 Charles Street Thornhill, Ontario, Canada L4J 3C7 905-881-0575 *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock *all you need is love...all you get is afraid* - Robyn Hitchcock ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ *I don't trust you...you're a vampire...oh...I'm sorry...is that an offensive term...should I call you an "undead-American"...?* - Buffy *whenever we fight you always have to bring up the vampire thing*-Angel ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ s/he who knows others is wise s/he who knows her/himself is enlightened* - Tao Te Ching ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Ms. Randi Spiegel Assistant Producer Revolver Films 53 Ontario Street Second Floor Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5A 2V1 Tel: (416) 869-0420 Fax: (416) 869-0568 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:42:47 -0500 From: jjswbt@huskynet.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: What Exactly Is A Vampire? Mike says: >I don't think it's necessary to analyse this so deeply; Let's face it, >Vampire's aren't exactly kindly to each other either. Huh? We have seen that Dru and Spike are *very* kindly to each other. Darla and Angel meant something to each other at some point in time. The Gortch brothers seemed fond of each other. The vampires of Sunnydale seem to hang out together..as opposed to hunting alone. All in all, I'd say that vampire look at each other as members of a big family. If Dru "enjoyed" torturing Angel- and she seemed to - then I assume it was because some part of the *human* Dru remains conscious in the *vampire* Dru. Otherwise ..there would be no reason for one vampire to be taking revenge on another vampire. Wendy jjswbt@huskynet.com jjswbt@aol.com http://members.aol.com/JJSWBT/wendy.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:46:44 -0500 From: jjswbt@huskynet.com Subject: BUFFY: Spoilers _Speculation-Upcoming 2 parter Come down and see what's up: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 So....what's my idea of how it will go? "Surprise" ... while obviously having more than one meaning here..first relates to a surprise party for Buffy. All her friends are trying to find the perfect gift for a Slayer. Giles is rewriting the Slayer Handbook in short simple sentences -with lots of pictures. Willow is writing an easy to use database of vampires. Xander is whittling a stake (hey..teenage boys can't help being phallic) Cordy is designing a chic outfit that won't wrinkle and will shed blood and vampire dust easily. Angel is boning up on something he hasn't done for a long, long time And our Ms. Calender is trying to perfect a spell to make Angel whole again....truly a special gift. On Buffy's birthday, all her friends hand over their gifts, except Angel (who insists he can only deliver his in private :::nudge :nudge::wink::wink:: ) and Ms. Calender, who is running late. She is still wrapped up in the computer lab with one hand on the keyboard and the other on a book of spells left to her by her great great great grandfather Carmen. Buffy and Angel retreat to Angel's lair. ::kiss::kiss:::fondle::fondle::: Just as things get interesting - Ms. Calendar (in an eerie split screen of mirrored actions) pushes "Enter" :::heh heh::: and the spell is cast. Buffy loses her ..innocence .....simultaneously with Angel losing his (previously lost and found) soul. Buffy opens her eyes to find Angel in full vampiric visage staring hungrily at her neck. She is understandably upset and pushes him away. She flees and Angel....with his last gasp of "humanity"..... rushes out into the rain and screams "BUFFY!!" Now..if this happened to *you*..what are the chances you would *ever* get near Angel again? What are the chances you would ever have sex again? Slim and none. So....are we about to see the last of the Angel & Buffy ? Will Angel be reduced to a bit player ..shunned by vampires and Slayer alike? Who can come up with a *realistic* scenario that will allow Buffy able to forgiven and forget the trauma of her "first time" and allow for future smoochies in the dark with Angel? Anyone? Wendy (Betting on two episodes of pained estrangement then back to square one ...starting over with longing glances and moping at the Bronze)(Unless, of course, Angel is toast.)(Reducing my interest in BtVS by 50%) jjswbt@huskynet.com jjswbt@aol.com http://members.aol.com/JJSWBT/wendy.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:27:35 -0500 From: John Nestoriak Subject: Re: BUFFY: Review--Bad Eggs. **SPOILERS!!** > > --We haven't seen Oz for some time. Or heard mention of him. > >Maybe with the sweeps coming up, he'll turn back up. > He's busy doing those Kodak commercials. :) Actually he is (or was) busy doing a movie. That was the reason behind: Willow: Your hair is brown. Oz: Yeah, sometimes. Ie he had to die his hair brown for the movie and so they needed to cover the change in the series. - -- John Nestoriak * "It's the non-relationship drink Software Engineer * of choice. It's not a date, it's The Telephone Connection * a caffeinated beverage." jnestoriak@telecnnct.com * - Willow on Coffee - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:58:34 -0800 From: Kimberly Subject: BUFFY: Sarah In US Magazine Hi All! There is a picture of Neve Campbell, David Bowie, and Sarah Michelle Gellar in the February issue of US Magazine on Page 20 beside an short article about KROQ's eighth annual Almost Acoustic Christmas Benefit in Los *Angel*es. It's a good picture and David Bowie has a new look. The three look great! The picture is at: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2659/SARAH2.jpg ObBuffy:It was funny how Buffy & Xander ended up in *the closet* and he kind of revealed about him and Cordy but quickly brushed it off. - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #28 ************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. 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