From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #65 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, January 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 065 In this issue: BUFFY: Written, not scene - Lie To Me Re: BUFFY: scene in Innocence Re: BUFFY: Angel's Curse -- IMPORTANT READ! BUFFY: David Boreanaz on Keenan Ivory Wayans Right now! Re: BUFFY: scene in Innocence BUFFY: SNL Re[2]: BUFFY: Status Among Vamps BUFFY: Music BUFFY: Music BUFFY: Willow Spoiler BUFFY: nothing hugely controversial, just a wondering..... BUFFY: Mr. and Ms. Showbiz Pageant BUFFY: Written not scene -Surprise BUFFY: More Buffy Magazine Scans BUFFY: Website Update - Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! BUFFY: Nick Brendon on MTV Tailgate something or other... Re: BUFFY: nothing hugely controversial, just a wondering..... BUFFY: Re: buffy-digest V2 #62 BUFFY: Angeel as Sire BUFFY: Ethan's Motive? BUFFY: Weapon used in "Innocence" Re: BUFFY: SNL BUFFY: help! BUFFY: Definition of "sire"/Music See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:20:07 -0800 From: preta@earthlink.net Subject: BUFFY: Written, not scene - Lie To Me Here are some bits and scenes from Lie To Me that never made it to telecast, yet give some interesting info. In the opening sequence when Angel is talking to Dru. *DRUSILLA: Do you remember the song mummy used to sing me? Pretty. She would sing me to sleep, and the fairies and sprites would bite at my heels. - ------------------------ In the Bronze at the bar: Buffy crosses over to the bar. As she arrives the man in front turns to go, drink in hand. It's Angel. BUFFY: Oh! ANGEL: Hey. I was hoping you'd show. BUFFY: You drink? Drinks? I mean non-blood things. *ANGEL: Yeah. I eat too. Not for nutritional value - - it just kind of passes the time. - ----------- Exchange amongst Buffy, Ford, Angel, Xander, Willow. WILLOW: Hey, Angel. FORD: Hi. BUFFY: This is Ford. We went to school together in L.A. They shake hands. ANGEL: Nice to meet you. FORD: Whoah. Cold hands. XANDER: You're not wrong. ANGEL: So you're visiting Buffy? FORD: No, I'm actually here to stay. Just moved down. *XANDER: Well, Sunnydale is a fun town to live in. If you're a small patch of moss. - ----------------- *EXT. SCHOOL - FOUNTAIN QUAD - DAY Buffy and Ford are sitting and talking. BUFFY: And then everything was Vampires. I slacked utterly in school -- and.my . social life pretty much dried up and blew away. FORD: You made quite a hit at the prom. BUFFY: Oh, God, the prom. What a disaster. FORD: Wasn't dull, tough. Watching the gym go up in flames... it was like a movie. Life isn't nearly enough like a movie, don't you think? BUFFY: I think that was the worst night of my life. FORD: You saved a lot of people's lives. I know it - I bet there's others who do too. BUFFY: It's good to hear. And it's good to be able to talk to someone who knows. Who knew me before, and... well, during. FORD: You kow, one mite you're a kid, living in your safe kid world, and then -- Truth hits you in the face. Vampires. I'11 never forget that night. BELL RINGS. They get up and head inside. BUFFY: Most everybody else did. FORD: What's up with that? Nobody would say a word. BUFFY: Peopls ignore truths they don't like. Cordelia comes up to them, all smiles. CORDELIA: Buffy, you haven't introduced me to your new friend. BUFFY: Yeah, isn't that weird? She blows by her, Ford in tow. FORD: Who is that? BUFFY: A truth I like to ignore. - --------------------------------- The morning of the end. After Ford and Buffy agree to meet that night INTERIOR SCHOOL LOUNGE - DAY Cordelia sits with Xander and Willow, pressing them. CORDELIA: Come on, can't you tell me anything about him? WILLOW: Why are you so interested in Ford? CORDELIA: In case you haven't noticed there is a devastating cute guy shortage right now. The government is calling for rationing so why does Buffy get to horde (sic) them all? She has Angel. So come on, what's Ford interested in? XANDER: Vampires.. CORDELIA : (deflated) Oh great. That's Buffy's best subject. You sure he doesn't like clothes? - ----- Preta preta@earthlink.net *** Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:20:15 EST From: BlkPhoenix Subject: Re: BUFFY: scene in Innocence In a message dated 98-01-26 23:56:18 EST, you write: << Angel says to her, "You have to know what to see." What did he mean by that? Then she sees Jenny Calendar and realizes she had something to do with Angel's transformation. It looks like they were at a funeral. Who's funeral were they at? Just wondering. It seemed a little odd. >> I thought they were kind of at Angel's funeral. Like the death of Angel and the rebirth of Angelus or am i really looking into this too much?? I'm guessing that when angel tells her "you have to know what you see" he was kinda hinting towards the fact that Jenny knew or was responsible for his change since she knew that Angel had gone bad, which is why she was warning Willow and Xander to get away from him. Did that make any sense whatsoever or am I just rambling late at night?? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:15:11 EST From: BlkPhoenix Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel's Curse -- IMPORTANT READ! In a message dated 98-01-26 21:02:06 EST, you write: << Can't Ms. Calender just put the curse back on Angel again. You know the curse that restored Angel's soul? >> Didn't she say in the episode that she couldn't do it, something along the lines of it was an old curse and the spell to do it was forgotten? However her uncle might have been able to help, but Angel took care of him before they got to him. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:26:01 -0500 (EST) From: Hendricks Ng Subject: BUFFY: David Boreanaz on Keenan Ivory Wayans Right now! FYI :) David Boreanaz is appearing on The Keenan Ivory Wayans Show, tonight, Jan. 26. I think he's the 3rd guest, so you still have time to tune in. I'm taping it but I have no access to another VCR to dub. Cheers, Hendu /-----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hendu * hendu@usa.net * http://www.personal.psu.edu/hxn106 | | Willo'Wisp GASP! WHAM! * Keeper of Buffy's Smoking Black Boots & | | Giles's Morning Star * Buffy The Vampire Slayer * WB Network Mon 9pm | | Buffy FAQ: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html | \--"A suspicious heart will see imaginary ghosts." -- Chinese proverb---/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:23:50 EST From: TIGGERGW Subject: Re: BUFFY: scene in Innocence In a message dated 98-01-26 23:56:41 EST, jphelan@radware.net writes: << Right after the scene where Buffy's dreaming and their showing Angel and Buffy's sex scene, there is a cemetary scene. Angel says to her, "You have to know what to see." What did he mean by that? >> Jenny said that she knew about Angelus by seeing his face....Angel told buffy in the dream that "you have to know what to see"...in other words, even if jenny saw his face, she had to have been aware of what was happening in order to put two and two together and realize angel was bad...just my two pennies....by the way, i am fairly new to the buffy scene, so if anyone has any episodes on tape of the first season, i'd really appreciate a copy, i'll spring for tapes and shipping...thanks... TiggerGW@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 23:45:28 +0000 From: Noone Subject: BUFFY: SNL Are there any ratings for "SNL" last week? - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:42:22 -0600 From: Mia_McDavid@em.fcnbd.com Subject: Re[2]: BUFFY: Status Among Vamps From Theda Bara: On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, Courtjes5 wrote: > Mia said: > Darla, who made Angel, who made Spike, who made Dru, I believe that Angel made Dru, who made Spike. This is Mia talking. Dunno who Courtjes5 is quoting, but I don't think it's me. Mia I *LOVE* this show! - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:55:03 PST From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: BUFFY: Music I know I'm fairly new to this list, but maybe someone could answer this question for me. Will there be a compilation CD of music from Buffy's shows. I would really appreciate any help you guys could offer me. Ciao Mz. Gwyn http://www.geocities.com/~mistressgwyn priestessworship@hotmail.com lgums@msmc.la.edu "the opposite of war is not peace, but creation" Mark RENT-the musical "Whatever is causing the Joan Collins tude, deal with it, embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever, but get over it." Cordelia (WSWB) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 08:48:53 PST From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: BUFFY: Music I know I'm fairly new to this list, but maybe someone could answer this question for me. Will there be a compilation CD of music from Buffy's shows. I would really appreciate any help you guys could offer me. Ciao Mz. Gwyn http://www.geocities.com/~mistressgwyn priestessworship@hotmail.com lgums@msmc.la.edu "the opposite of war is not peace, but creation" Mark RENT-the musical "Whatever is causing the Joan Collins tude, deal with it, embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever, but get over it." Cordelia (WSWB) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:40:04 -0500 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: Willow Spoiler Here is a Willow Spoiler that I heard recently: s c r o l l d o w n f o r s p o i l e r I REALLY hope this is just a rumor and turns out not to be true! But- I have heard that Alyson Hannigan is leaving the show. Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:48:06 EST From: Tanjelli Subject: BUFFY: nothing hugely controversial, just a wondering..... anyone ever wonder how coincidental it was that buffy burned down her old school and her and her mother just HAPPENED to move to the place on earth known as the HELL MOUTH? joss never quite made that coinccidence less coincidental with details at all... hmmm... just being pensive! •••••••••••••••••••••••• <3 from meeh! luv lots, jelli been willow's peak tangerine queen keeper of taco bells princess leia :-) tanjelli@aol.com :-) Kelli •••••••••••••••••••••••• - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:33:38 +0800 From: Michael Gibbons Subject: BUFFY: Mr. and Ms. Showbiz Pageant The results of the beauty part of the Mr. and Ms. Pageant are in: SMG won for women (yay!) and Leonardo Dicaprio won for men. Today's voting is for brains. Keep voting! - -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Michael Gibbons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<< 'When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different >>> << than when you do know that you don't know. He knows now >> <<< that he doesn't know. Last year, he didn't know that." >>> << -- Bill Parcels, New England Patriots head coach >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< pi@omen.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:37:07 -0800 From: preta@earthlink.net Subject: BUFFY: Written not scene -Surprise At the locker CORDELIA: Well, of course you want to tell everybody. You have nothing to be ashamed of. I on the other hand, have everything to be ashamed of. XANDER: Know what? 'Nuff said. Forget it. Must have been my multiple personality guy talking. I call him Idiot Jed, Glutton for punishment. *He moves off. Cordelia closes her locker, catches up to him *CORDELIA: Let me... Think about it. Can I pick out your clothes? *XANDER: For the party? *CORDELIA: For pretty much... every day. She walks off. Xander watches her, chagrined, then sees GILES - --------------------- XANDER: Buffy! I feel a pre-birthday spanking coming on - Buffy gives Xander a.look that would melt steel. JENNY: I'd - curb that impulse, Xander. XANDER: Check. Cancel spanking. GILES: What's the matter, Buffy? You look fatigued. *BUFFY: Rough night. I had a dream that Drusilla was alive - and she killed Angel. It really spun me. I even went by Angel's on the way to school to make sure e was okay- *XANDER: There's a line I haven't tried. "I just dropped by to see if you're dead.," It says caring. Concerned. Smootchies guaranteed. *BUFFY: Please. I didn't go over there for smootchies - (then) Well. When I found out he was okay I was relieved, and so, naturally... (then) Someone stop me. *JENNY (obliging) So, Angel's alright? *BUFFY: Yeah, but... I've just got this bad feeling. This wasn't a normal dream. GILES: You feel it was more of a portent? BUFFY: I don't know. I don't want to start a big freak-out over nothing GILES: Still. We should be on alert. If Drusilla is alive then we may be facing a cataclysmic state of affairs - - ------------------------ After Xander and the others leave. Calendar and Giles then move down the halltoward the library. Giles' expression now betrays the fact that he is more concerned than he let on. *JENNY: What? You really think Buffy's having premonitions? *GILES: It's possible - INTERIOR LIBRARY - DAY Calendar and Giles enter - continuing their talk. *JENNY: I guess it makes sense. I mean, all of Buffy's senses are heightened. Why should her intuition be different? *GILES: Precisely. It's not unheard of for the Slayer to start having prophetic dreams and visions as she approaches adulthood - *JENNY: Adulthood? Buffy's seventeen tomorrow, Giles. Don't rush her. *GILES: I'm not the one rushing her. While I'm loathe to say it, the fact is - the Slayer rarely lives into her mid-twenties. It follows that she'd exhibit signs of maturity early on. Her whole life-cycle is accelerated. *JENNY: Still, you should be careful a preta@earthlink.net *** Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:24:22 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: BUFFY: More Buffy Magazine Scans For anyone who's missed any Buffy-related magazine articles in the last two months, 23 new pages from 9 articles (w/ full pictures & text) have just been added to the Cyberpaws Gallery. They are: Cracked (Dec 97), Page: 1 2 3 4 5 TV Guide (12/20/97), Buffy & Spike TV Guide (12/27/97), Page: 1 2 People (12/29/97), Sarah Seventeen (Jan 98), David Sarah Teen (January '98), Sarah Rolling Stone (1/08/98), Page: 1 2 3 TV Guide (1/17/98), Page: 1 2 3 Seventeen (Feb 98), Page: C 1 2 3 4 At: http://www.wco.com/~cybrpaws/cbphotog.html (Click on "Media and Official Images") 1. They include the somewhat silly Cracked Magazine parody called "Boffy the Vampire Slayer" (yes, they *do* mean "boff" in that way). 2. There is also the controversial TV Guide mini-article that started the recent rumor about Sarah leaving the show, based on things she was overheard saying in a club (a rumor that caused her to cry, according to Joss). (TV Guide (12/27/97), Page: 1) 3. And all the SMG stuff from the recent huge Rolling Stone "Scream II" article. 4. Note - Some of these pages are over 200K in size, so expect to be downloading awhile if you're on a slow dial-in connection. Happy reading, Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:27:38 -0800 (PST) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Website Update - Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! Halo! This is my usual Buffy Night Post: This message contains info on Sonja Marie's Buffy Links Page, ASH/Giles Mailing list, The ASHFC, GASPers, and the Buffy Beta Fanfic List. ***** Sonja Marie's Buffy the Vampire Slayer Links I have added 33 more URLS to my Buffy Links Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/btvsurls.html There are now 616 pages listed! And if you are so inclined, PLEASE sign my guestbook! If you have a page for the show or cast members and IT IS NOT LISTED already, please send me the URLS and I will add them. ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List Are you a fan of Anthony Stewart Head? Giles? Oliver from VR5? Then the Anthony Stewart Head List is for you! We talk about all his work, share fanfic stories related to Giles and Oliver, etc. To join: 1. Send an email to ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP or S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP-DIGEST ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) We (Kimmie and I) are very close to getting ready to accept money to join the fan club, $18 US a year, joining gives you the following benefits: The newsletters An autograph picture of Tony Able to send in questions to Tony that will be answered in the newsletters Contests (which Tony will provide signed prizes) And more... We have been approved to make merchandize that members can buy, such as: Shirts Buttons Posters Key Chains Bumper Stickers And probably more... This will only be availible to members of the ASHFC (though the GASP! merchandise will be availible to the members of the internet club.) For GASP! and the internet Buffy community, we are planning a net auction for one of Tony's favourite charities, for which he'll donate items for. If you are interested in joining the ASHFC (The Official Anthony Stewart Head (Offline) Fan Club), please email me your REAL NAME and email address PRIVATELY, and once I get the PO box set up, I'll email you with the form to fill out to join, the address to mail your check to join, and the name to make the check out to. Kim and I are looking at a Feb. start date, hopefully in time to coincide with Anthony's 44th Birtday on Feb. 20th. More later! ***** Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff. Check out our Home Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html (PS - there is a picture of me and Anthony on the front page :D). IMPORTANT NOTE: Only those who email me about becoming GASPers and follow the directions I send them will be considered real Keepers in my eyes. To join email me PRIVATELY at gaspers@eskimo.com and I'll send you the info on how to join. ***** The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List Want a place to post you unfinished work so other can read it and help you get it ready for others to read? Then this is the place for you! This is a place where you can get your work critiqued, etc. We will except all Buffy and related stories and VR5 related stories (IF Oliver Sampson is the main character). To join: 1. send a email to buffy-beta-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA or S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA-DIGEST Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 04:52:47 EST From: Inspyral Subject: BUFFY: Nick Brendon on MTV Tailgate something or other... I haven't seen this mentioned yet-Did anyone see that Super Bowl Tailgate thing on MTV on (duh)sunday? It was like a pre Super Bowl special type deal, and was hosted by that Ferrall guy(w/ the raspy voice) who was also at MTV's S&M(Sports and Music) Festival. There were some celebs doing football related segments(Tyra Banks w/ cheerleaders, Carmen Electra end zone dancing, Rebecca Romijn interviewing players, etc.), and Nick's segment was about The NFL Experience. He basically hung out with football player Michael Haynes(I *think* that was his name) and through passes and kicked field goals and such. It was a pretty kewl segment, and Nick successfully kicked a field goal wearing what looked llike moccasins(sp.?), while Michael Haynes came up short. They had nick wearing some dorky looking glasses w/ a camera in them, plus a backpack w/ all the video gear that went along w/ the glasses, so he looked pretty funny. Just thought I'd meantion this... Kay, bye now Chris >=) P.S.-Was anyone else at the Oasis/Cornershop show in San Francisco on Monday? It was AWESOME. Those of you who are going to the LA gig on Tuesday are in for a great show. Are ya mad fer it!?! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:56:21 -0500 From: grandnagus@juno.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: nothing hugely controversial, just a wondering..... On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:48:06 EST Tanjelli writes: >anyone ever wonder how coincidental it was that buffy burned down her >old school and her and her mother just HAPPENED to move to the place on >earth known as the HELL MOUTH? joss never quite made that coinccidence less >coincidental with details at all... hmmm... Well, Joyce probably just wanted to get her gym burnin' daughter out of the "bad influence" of L.A., and so she moved to the town of Sunnydale to teach her daughter good old-fashioned values and get her to straighten up and fly right. (She didn't know that the quiet little burg was the site of a dimensional rift.) As for the coincidence...IMO, it just LOOKED like coincidence, but was actually orchestrated by some powers beyond our ken...(Hey, in the Buffyverse, there's a Hell and demons; so of course, there's probably a Heaven and angels (the glowing, winged, halo'd guys; not HIM! ^_^) Besides, Giles was SENT to Sunnydale by someone, who either was clairvoyant, or just watched the Slayer very closely. =============================================================== A Message from the Grand Nagus AKA Latinum Racer and Shadam http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/5477/ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:50:59 -0500 From: "Rob Clark" Subject: BUFFY: Re: buffy-digest V2 #62 Mark wrote: >Has anyone wondered why it is that, having established the efficacy of a >*single* rocket launcher against the most powerful vampire ever, Buffy >and her pals *don't* just call in the army? Apparently, Snyder and the >local police chief do have some conspiratorial knowledge of what's going >on, so it's possible the government *knows* and prefers to keep its >cache of "protected vampires" unannihilated, but obviously, Buffy and >Giles don't know this. I'm waiting for the inevitable episode in which Mulder and Scully are called in to investigate the remarkable number of murders and disappearances in the Sunnyvale area, and discover a government conspiracy to create an army of the undead. The Smoking Man would obviously be the ringleader. Xander would follow Scully around like a lovesick puppy, Cordelia and Willow would get in a catfight over Mulder's affections (or lack thereof), and Giles would have fun explaining the whole 'slayer' thing without sounding like a B-movie reject. StoneDog 'It is the tale, not he who tells it.' - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:56:33 -0500 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: Angeel as Sire Joel wrote: <> This refuses to die- but Joss W. said that Angel made Dru and Dru made Spike. However, Angel was still Spike's sire because the term "sire" refers to the line of vampires from which one comes. Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:09:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike \"Nelson\"" Subject: BUFFY: Ethan's Motive? Given the upcoming repeat of Halloween, I was just wondering about Ethan. So far, he is one of my favorite villains from Buffy, but I don't know if they ever mentioned why he put the spell on the costumes. What was his motive? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 7:57:44 -0600 From: Harold Hutchison Subject: BUFFY: Weapon used in "Innocence" >I know that Buffy is a TV show, but common if it was that easy to march into >a Military base steal what I very sure was a A203 West Gate radar guided >stinger anti-tank single use rocket laucher every one would be doing it. >Second when Buffy was using it she armed it wrong, she actived both >switches, the first was for arming the rockets fule supply, thats all she >would have needed to kill the judge, when she armed the second switch, she >turned the radar on, this would have required the rocket to have a lock >before firing, It would not have been able to lock on to something as small >as the judge. The Clancyphile sighs: Not quite. I've not seen the weapon, but the Stinger is an anti-AIRCRAFT missile. More likely, what Buffy was using was either an M72 LAW (which is being retired) or the newer AT-4 (a single-launch version of the Carl Gustav). Both are unguided anti-tank rockets, with no radar or anything. Other anti-tank weapons in use are the Dragon, which is a wire-guided missile, meaning one has to just keep the target in the crosshairs, or the new Javelin, which uses infrared guidance in a fire-and-forget system. At present, the only radar-guided anti-tank weapon we have is the Longbow Hellfire, which is a little big for a person to carry and fire from their shoulder. Harold Hutchison - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:06:55 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: SNL At 23:45 1998-01-25 +0000, Noone wrote: >Are there any ratings for "SNL" last week? SMG's appearance on Saturday Night Live on the 17th got an 8.0 rating/20 share in Nielsen's 38 overnight metered markets, according to Ultimate TV. That's basically the same as the previous week's 7.9/19 which had Samuel L. Jackson as host but is down from some of the December outings, including the Christmas special (9.2/24) and Helen Hunt's hosting (8.6/22). Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:29:43 EST From: Kemilla Subject: BUFFY: help! Hi...did anyone tape DB on Keenan Ivory Wayans last night?? If you have it, i will trade or pay for it. I have every episode of Buffy & DB on Regis & Kathie Lee...:) thanks! - -alissa kemilla@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:39:13 EST From: TrudiRose Subject: BUFFY: Definition of "sire"/Music <> Didn't they explain at some point that "sire" doesn't necessarily mean the vampire who DIRECTLY made you - it's more of a "lineage" thing? In other words, Angel made Dru, and Dru made Spike, but Angel is the "sire" to both because he's the vampire that started it - their "ancestor," so to speak? I have no specific reference for this, someone else will know better than I do, but I seem to remember them saying something to that effect. And on an unrelated note: What's the name of the song Drusilla danced to at her party, just before they reassembled the Judge? It was a song with lots of words, and the chorus was something about a "Transylvanian concubine." Trudi - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #65 ************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)