From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #109 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Sunday, February 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 109 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL Re: BUFFY: hair? nose? Re: BUFFY: Sarah on AOL BUFFY: Season I episodes Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal BUFFY: re: vampiric characteristics BUFFY: SMG stalker Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL-SPOILER BUFFY: Buffy Rat BUFFY: Amy's powers Re: BUFFY: Babysitter Spoiler Re: BUFFY: Amy's powers BUFFY: Buffy and Angel Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel BUFFY: SMG's nose BUFFY: 1-800-COLLECT winner debut BUFFY: Kill Off Angel? Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel Re: BUFFY: Consumer Tips from your local BBB (Spoilers!) Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel BUFFY: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 7th Heaven Parody BUFFY: The whole how to become a vamp issue BUFFY: Buffy Merchandise Re: BUFFY: I am confused Re: BUFFY: End of filming? See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 01:56:06 EST From: LilyRei@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal In a message dated 98-02-14 21:54:24 EST, DIESEL456@aol.com writes: << Is anyone else bothered by the fact that Buffy and Angel had sex? I thought that was pretty foul of them to put that in there. I like the way they handled it, though. didn't go into too much detail. >> No. I was bothered by the what happened after the sex. Now, why did you think it was pretty foul of them? Just curious. LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/set/1673/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:00:59 EST From: LilyRei@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL In a message dated 98-02-14 21:45:04 EST, DIESEL456@aol.com writes: << I don't think it would be a good idea for buffy to have a "steady" for the bulk of the series... which is apparently going to be what happens NEXT season after Angel regains his soul. Kill him off and let's see the Buffy Xander relationship blossom a little more. ... but never into a full blown "couple" >> What you propose doesn't make a lot of sense. They have explored the Buffy- Xander relationship. They are good friends. To explore it any more is going to move them to the romantic situation you appear to object to with Buffy and Angel. Relationships don't stay static. They change. If they don't, they are history. Besides that, nobody watches *any* television show to see *nothing* happen. IMHO, Buffy and Xander would be dull, like watching the people next door. Buffy and Angel . . .now *that's* conflict. LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/set/1673/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:04:28 EST From: LilyRei@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: hair? nose? In a message dated 98-02-14 23:37:51 EST, x-lander@geocities.com writes: << I tend to think her nose is part of what gives her character. I mean, anyone can go have a nose job and have the classic, it takes a real woman who is comfortable with herself and knows that true beauty comes from within. >> Thank you for saying this. SMG is a real person. Few real people are perfect. Those of us who are looking for perfection are chasing a dream, there is no such thing in life. Our imperfections are what make us unique and special unto ourselves. Too bad more people don't appreciate who they are without starvation diets and plastic surgery. LilyRei Heart of the Slayer http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/set/1673/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:03:10 -0500 From: Lawless Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah on AOL Nino Gerardo Gaerlan wrote: > screen name on my buddy list, I talked to her and at first she was ignoring me, so I > sent her a pic of a rose, after that she said hi, she got me believing that she was the > truth, I even told her about the time when she was on VIBE and when she said she dosen't > like to go on the NET she said I go here sometimes, that got me going. But when she said Not only does she not like going on the NET, she hates it. But I guess after 16 hours worth of shooting, there's nothing I'd rather do than go on AOL and start chatting with fans. There are about 40 different people on AOL claiming to be her. It's been awhile since I've taken Statistics, but I don't think this works out mathematically. next time anyone "talks to her," ask her if she knows what agency represents her. I'd be willing to guess anything that they don't correctly say ICM. Or you can ask her who Deborah Klein is (her attorney) and I doubt the person would be able to give you an accurate answer. Lawless - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:41:49 -0600 From: King Shaneos Subject: BUFFY: Season I episodes I am missing a few episodes from season one and would really like to get them for my collection. If anyone would be kind enough to lend me their copy(ies) for a day or so, I would be glad to copy them and return them. I have nearly the whole collection, and would be glad to trade or tape them for true Buffy fans. I would be forever in debt to anyone who would help me. Please email me offlist. Thanks and hello to everyone. I enjoy reading everyone's posts on the list. KS - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:08:15 -0800 From: bandr@impulse.net Subject: Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL DIESEL456@aol.com wrote: > but i think that for the good of > the show they should kill off the character of Angel. I don't think it would > be a good idea for buffy to have a "steady" for the bulk of the series... Right on. She should have killed him back in the first season episode "Angel" when she had the chance. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:26:10 EST From: DIESEL456@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal I don't know... it was just a personal thought. I didn't like the fact that they did that on the show. Many people continually refer to buffy as a "rolemodel" and, although many teenagers have sex... i don't think that a teenager that does so should be a model for other teenagers. See what I mean? Oh well... you probably don't. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:28:19 EST From: DIESEL456@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL well i'm glad somebody agrees with me at least :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:33:04 EST From: Buffy13776@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal remove - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:55:33 EST From: TrudiRose@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: re: vampiric characteristics Tammy wrote: <> I totally disagree! I LOVE the fact that the vampires aren't just one- dimensional monsters. I think it's great that they're real characters with their own individual personalities. The fact that Spike can ruthlessly plot the destruction of Sunnydale and the death of all its humans, yet tenderly put his coat around Drusilla if she says she's cold, is a marvellous combination, in my opinion - much more interesting than if he was pure evil with no emotional weaknesses. And I'm really enjoying the vampire love triangle that's going on. I MUCH prefer Spike and Drusilla to the Master, who I found very boring and cliched (IMHO, of course). Trudi - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:15:00 -0500 From: Schimmel <75211.522@compuserve.com> Subject: BUFFY: SMG stalker According to the STAR tabloid, SMG has already had trouble with a stalker. The item said she had to hire a security firm to patrol her house after the guy came from Las Vegas with a gift for her. (She'd already gotten some weird notes and letters from him, so she agreed to meet him later and called the police.) She later asked that her mother move in with her. This is just what the article in STAR says; I have no idea whetrher or not it's true. Sandra - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:45:03 -0500 (EST) From: Amber Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 DIESEL456@aol.com wrote: > Is anyone else bothered by the fact that Buffy and Angel had sex? I thought > that was pretty foul of them to put that in there. I like the way they > handled it, though. didn't go into too much detail. Not in the slightest. What I find "foul" is people's wilingness to watch endless gore, rape, and violence than watch one people make love. * Amber * * Amber SilverWolf/Lolandrea Psikine'Aelanar/Elektra/O'mra * * * * http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/7969 -Amber's Domain * * http://members.tripod.com/~Lolandrea/ -Castle Amber * * http://www.angelfire.com/ny/samilani -Samilani * * http://members.theglobe.com/lolandrea/ -Ryv're/ * - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:18:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Grace M. Lee" Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 DIESEL456@aol.com wrote: > Is anyone else bothered by the fact that Buffy and Angel had sex? I thought > that was pretty foul of them to put that in there. I like the way they > handled it, though. didn't go into too much detail. I agree with Isis that it was tastefully done. Diesel's introduction of the "rolemodel" question regarding Buffy is interesting, though. I happen to think that this society is too hung up on sex -- we're an incredibly repressed society that makes sex a taboo thing sort of as a power play (see Foucault's _History of Sexuality_ -- it's an interesting take). Ignoring the societal implications of having Buffy, a teen, have sex on the show, I have to say that the situation involved around her "first time" is symbolic of all the terrible things that young women face when they think about or have sex for the first time. The loss of her virginity causes a waning of interest in her partner. She questions whether or not she was good. There is a massive, traumatic change in her life. She questions whether others can or will see her differently. In a sense -- giving this whole thing a feminist reading -- Buffy's loss of virginity could be incredibly destructive to her sexuality and her empowerment. The one time that she indulges herself and satisfies herself leads to a tragic turn of events. Sheesh. This makes me think that *my* first time was a piece of cake physically and emotionally. glee - ------ "Oh, what a rogue and peasant slave am I!" - Hamlet - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 11:51:36 -0500 From: sah Subject: Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL-SPOILER NOTE: *Please* spoil protect this thread. --sah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 At 11:24 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >BuffySumr9@aol.com wrote: > >> Hey I respect your opinion and everything! But IMHO I believe that >> Angel and Buffy should continue their relationship when Angel gets > his soul back. I think Xander should stay with Cordy and Willow with > Oz!! > > >Ditto! However, as much as I am a fan of Buffy and Angel, I gotta say I >am seriously enjoying David Boreanaz's role as Angelus. It really shows >his talent as an actor. And as evil as Angelus is, he is hilarious! I >mean, maybe not while watching an ep the first time {especially >Innocence, I was so upset at the scene where he bashed Buffy that I was >nausious} but after knowing what as comming, it was sooooo hilarious! > >Iisis > >- > > sah * romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com NatPack * Jungle Patrol * Bishop * Bossy the Lost Dwarf * BTVS Listowner Nat's B&B (moving shortly): http://members.aol.com/romana/natpage_stuff/ "She's out there, strong and smart and proud and gorgeous. That has to piss the hell off of Clarence Thomas, and that makes my day." --jk on Anita Hill - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:57:15 -0600 (CST) From: umharbow@cc.UManitoba.CA Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Rat I was just sitting down thinking (ya it really hurt) and I was wondering why the Buffy rat was brown?? This strikes me as kind of odd ya know since she is now blonde and all. The only explanation that I could come up with was that Joss is going to bring the Buffy rat back in a future episode, but they're going to cut of it's bangs, part it's fur down the center, and bleach it blonde.....:-) G: It seems on one occasion that Angel took a puppy, ... B: Skip it! G: But....??? B: Gile's, don't have a puppy, skip it! I like that one! Mark - -Wilo_Luvr PBA #56 WPWP #137 Sarah S.O.T.A #68 Proud member of Buffy, Eh? #32 "I am Canadian" -Molson's Keeper of Willow's stuff - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 01:50:01 -0800 From: ron zurba Subject: BUFFY: Amy's powers Hi I saw BB&B just last night and IMHO if Amy could do all those spells and willings (the way she did) on people like a 'Sabrina the Teenage Witch" thing, then she'd be a really, really powerful witch (and something to fear). BUt on the downside to the stuff she did on BB&B is that she'd have a lot of bad Krama working against her. An example of this: turning Buffy into a rat. Marissa - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:23:57 -0500 From: Nicole DiPatrizio Subject: Re: BUFFY: Babysitter Spoiler SECaban@aol.com wrote: > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > S > P > A > C > E > Buffy is admitted to the hospital with a raging fever where she encounters a > young child that brings nightmares of Buffy's past and present. that sucks, for buffy! i mean, going into the hospital with a horrible fever while knowing that angelus is out there, and he really wants her dead. i often think about when angel does get his soul back he will feel horrible. i don't think he could live with himself. uh, dream? what dream? they probably are dreams about angel. > Wow....angel does NOT get his soul back in Passion. how do you know exactly if he gets his soul back or not? none of us do. for all we know he will get his soul back and get rid of dru and spike. spike is a thorn at his side right now. angelus definitly wants him dead. ~Nicole~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:31:35 From: Theodore Jay Miller Subject: Re: BUFFY: Amy's powers At 01:50 AM 2/16/98 -0800, Ron Zurba wrote: > I saw BB&B just last night and IMHO if Amy could do all those spells >and willings (the way she did) on people like a 'Sabrina the Teenage >Witch" thing, then she'd be a really, really powerful witch Perhaps there's more preparation needed than we were shown. Amy might have had to go through a whole conjuring routine to set up the illusionary paper for the teacher spell, or the spell that turns someone into a rat, and what we saw was just how she releases those previously prepared spells. Maybe the rat spell was originally intended for Xander; if he didn't like how the love spell came out, and continued blackmailing Amy, HE was going to get ratted. So Amy could be versatile and powerful overall, but at any one time she'd be limited to whatever couple of spells she had prepared beforehand. Theodore Jay Miller tedjmill@mindspring.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 14:16:24 -0800 From: Kathy Perkins Subject: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel I think Buffy and Angel should get back together if he gets his soul back. However, my big question is this: How did he bacome a Vamp in the first place? Was he forced into it, or did he think, like Buffy's ex-boyfriend, that it would be a great idea and go into it voluntarily? That would make a lot of difference to me. If he was forced, then he's not responsible for what he has done and should be forgiven. If not, then he should be held responsible, since he chose the lifestyle. Any thoughts? Kathy katperk@mindspring.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:35:36 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel I agree. I think that as long as Angel's a vampire, she should just try and stay away from him. A lot of people think she should kill him, but I know that if MY boyfriend was a vampire and there was some sort of hope in the back of my mind that he might be restored, I wouldn't kill him. Buffy still loves Angel. As long as she thinks there may be someway to give him back his soul, she won't kill him. Katie Keeper of Willow's leather mini, Cordelia's stakes, Buffy's Nail Polish and Past Popularity and the heart necklace Xander gave Cordy on V-Day Guardian Angel of Spike's feeling of rejection from Angel Angel's adoptive mother "Titanic is not just a cautionary tale---a myth, a parable, a metaphor for the ills of mankind. It is also a story of faith, courage, sacrifice, and above all else, love." James Cameron - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:36:15 -0600 From: Harold Hutchison Subject: BUFFY: SMG's nose Frankly, I don't see anything wrong with Sarah's nose. She's just drop-dead gorgeous, IMHO. I'd go out with her just the way she is, thank you. ObBuffy: Was anyone else disappointed by the lack of fireworks (violent) between Angel and Xander in BBB? Harold Hutchison - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngan Subject: BUFFY: 1-800-COLLECT winner debut Does anybody know what episode the 1-800-COLLECT winner will make his debut? His name escapes me at the moment, but if anyone has any info about his part in a last or upcoming episode (w/o potential plot spoilers of course) , please share. I wanna see the lucky guy. man, I'm sooooo envious...=) Dave N. The only place where SUCESS comes before WORK is in the dictionary. ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu ngan@SPAWAR.mil - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:47:16 -0500 From: idigbuffy@webtv.net Subject: BUFFY: Kill Off Angel? My prefrence would be to start next season with a 2hr. show which ends with Buffy or Spike (or even Dru)killing off Angel.If not I will settle for Angel being kept evil ,but in a less promient role. I wonder if Dracula(a.k.a. Vlad the impaler) could ever become a character on BTVS? The only thing I don't like (besides The good Angel) is there are too many reruns. It is (BY FAR) my favorite show,and I try to turn people on to it whenever I can:~) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:00:43 -0500 From: Nicole DiPatrizio Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel Kathy Perkins wrote: > I think Buffy and Angel should get back together if he gets his soul back DITTO!!! i agree. i mean, angel is not angelus. they are just two different people. angel loves buffy more than anything in the world. they were destined to be together to matter what happens. they need to overcome this little baracade they are facing right now. when they do or if they do, it will be very special. > . > However, my big question is this: How did he bacome a Vamp in the first > place? well, i think that he was forced into becoming a vampire. he was probably attacked one day and the thought of dying just didn't appeal to him at that point. so he made the choice of living forever. i doubt back then they had no idea as of what he was doing. it was either dye or live for like forever. ~Nicole~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:52:31 -0500 From: Jesse Jou Subject: Re: BUFFY: Consumer Tips from your local BBB (Spoilers!) At 04:54 PM 2/13/98 -0500, Lisa Rose wrote: >Poor little red-shirt shopgirl. We never even got to >bond with her. I wonder if the provenance of that heart meant anything to Druscilla? Kind of like ripping the heart out of a JC Penny's shopgirl and saying that you got it from Macy's? Hmm, I can see it now... Dru (setting down the newspaper): It says here that they found a girl outside of the Gap with her heart ripped out. Angel (nervously): Oh? Dru (slowly fuming): They say they can't find her heart. I'm sure I wouldn't know where it is, as the one *I* have came from Betsy Johnson, right? - ----- I'm also kind of disturbed by how Angel used the word "shopgirl," which had rich and belittling associations in a different time. After all, once upon a time, girls of quality were meant to marry and breed and not soil their hands with "shopgirl" work. It's so archaic! Is that word still used commonly? I'm afraid to these postmodern ears it sounds as dated as if Willow were to say, "You can reach him at 1-800-I'm-Dating-a-Courtesan!" >Although I do now have a perverse desire to see Dustin >Hoffman do a cameo on the show as a grizzled, venerable >watcher, hacking phlegmatically from time-to-time as >he rides on a bus to Sunnydale with his assistant, >Jon Voight. LOL! Of course, I read somewhere that David B. starred in a production of Sam Shepard's Cowboy Mouth during the Buffy off-season, the words "cowboy" and "mouth" being particularly important to Voight from his tenure as a Midnight Cowboy. Although you know, now I'm really curious to see Nicky B and David B. play those roles in a remake of that classic film of desperate living, especially Nicky B's take on the Ratso Rizzo character. Tuberculosis, anyone? And perhaps we could have Giles and Buffy simultaneously re-enact the DeNiro/Foster relationship from Taxi Driver, with Jenny as Cybill Shepherd? Giles in a mohawk and doing the now famous, "You looking at me?" schtick? Too much! And to further complicate things, Willow and Cordelia could move in together in a funny way and become BtVS's answer to Kate and Allie? Is this the "Buffy visits the Big Apple" episode I've so longed craved? >She is a woman of conscience, after all. And the lush >pleasure in Xander's warm teenage flesh, after having >formerly been plastered to Ted's cold plastic body, might >be more delight than her guilt could bear! But once you've sipped from that forbidden chalice, how can you resist getting the Big Gulp? >Keep going in this direction and I'm going to be dying >for them to consummate! I see a whole complicated Luke/Leia scenario emerging now. "There is another, strong in the Force. Your brother..." hmm. >>Maybe if Flutie's SO wished that he >>would come back to life? Ewwwww!!! >Oooh, that's a pleasant image. Thanks for sharing, especially >just before lunch! Think I'll have a BLT now! Well, I just love the notion of putrefying chunks of Flutie inching their way out of the sewage plant (come on! you know, he's there by now...) towards vengeance. >Cookie dough? Rotfl! Humor is all in the details. Are you >speaking from personal experience here? An empty package of cookie dough is at least still there when you wake up in the morning. *sob* I wonder if Buffy felt the same way in Innocence? >And how hard will Cordy punch him if (Xander cheats)? >(Can you imagine her opening the door on him and >Harmony in the very same closet that her own love with >him took root?). The image of Xander and Cordy's love "taking root" is certainly intriguing. I think it's particularly interesting that Cordy and Xander's relationship was initially based on a purely physical interaction (I mean, what can they really talk about in that closet?) Our little virginal Xander must be quite the innate lover, regardless of the "Hoover technique" if he kept Cordy coming back for more, and in a grungy utility closet no less! I'm so proud of him. sniff. JJ - --------- "Isn't it reassuring to know When it's time to go That you'll still be there when you leave?" - --from the song, "Making Love Alone." - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:54:14 PST From: "Thu Ngo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: BE RID OF ANGEL I don't think that they should kill him off, per se, but he should get his soul back and Buffy should be really mean to him for a while, like she was in When She Was Bad. Well... okay, not mean, like "bitca" mean, but they shouldn't get together and be a couple for a looong time. I've always thought that the whole thing about "Will they get together, will they not?" was one of the best things about the show. It was more interesting than the five million make-out scenes that we saw AFTER Buffy and Angel got together. I liked the fact that it kept me guessing. I mean, romance is cool and everything, but there's nothing better than a forbidden romance, you know? Thu Ngo - ----- Keeper of a bunch of stuff. Ask me sometime. Xander-"Can I just say... ghuuuh!" Buffy-"I'll see your ghuuuh! and raise you a nuuuhh!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:59:08 PST From: "Thu Ngo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel >>How did he bacome a Vamp in the first place? > >well, i think that he was forced into becoming a vampire. he was >probably attacked one day and the thought of dying just didn't appeal >to him at that point. so he made the choice of living forever. But Darla made him, didn't she? I thought maybe he was forced into it, but not really, like he loved Darla, but he didn't really know what he was doing, so he did whatever he could to be with her, because in the Angel ep, she said they spent a few lifetimes together or something like that. Thu Ngo - ----- Keeper of a bunch of stuff. Ask me sometime. Xander-"Can I just say... ghuuuh!" Buffy-"I'll see your ghuuuh! and raise you a nuuuhh!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:01:56 -0500 From: GORDON K CUMMING Subject: BUFFY: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 7th Heaven Parody I was just thinking about a very funny Buffy, 7th Heaven crossover that could be done. It came to me right after Giles and Buffy and this conversation: Giles:Angel nailed a puppy to the... Buffy:Skip it! Giles:But Buffy... Buffy:I don't have a puppy, Skip it. You see the Camedons(7th Heaven family)have 5 kids and a DOG named Happy. Buffy could get a babysitting job one night to take care of the 2 youngest kids Simon and Ruthie. Angel could have followed Buffy to her babysitting job and is lurking outside. He tries to get little Ruthie to invite him in but Buffy stops her before she invites him. Then Buffy remembers what Giles told her about Angel nailing a puppy to something and she freaks out running around the house looking for Happy and has to lock the dog in the closet. I just thought it would be funny if that happened. Jennifer Cumming Keeper of Angel's House Keys Willows Smiley Face Backpack and Willow's eagerness for Oz to get a gold star. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 98 17:00:37 PST From: "Sapphire" Subject: BUFFY: The whole how to become a vamp issue This whole issue of whether or not you have to choose vampirism is intrig= uing. In the past, some thought that you bacame a vampire if you were killed = by a vamp. Three days after burial, up you rose. No choice at all. No big sucking = thing. ALso there is the theory that there must be the big sucking thing, but I don't= believe that that has to be voluntary either. WHen a person has been drained of enough= blood, they aren't going to be strong enough, or even conscious, to say no. If = a vamp wants to make you a vamp, I am pretty sure he could do it whether you wan= ted him to or not. Take Teresa. she was unconscious when Wolfie found her and saw= Angelus. I doubt that she had a choice in the vamping. Actually, this lends theory= to the 'if you are killed by a vampire theory'. She had been dead three days. That sure = would explain the number of vampires in town. Of course, as I said, it would be easy = for a vampire to vamp someone when they were near death without consent. To me, that = is most likely how it happens. Any thoughts? Sapphire: sapphire@chaos.taylored.com X-Over Crossover list admin: X-Over: XF Crossover archive http://www.busprod.com/aclaybor/xover/ Gossamer XF Specialty Archive: http://www.busprod.com/aclaybor SPCDD; LOMIG: http://www.busprod.com/aclaybor/lomig ; G-Woman #3 Keeper of Willow's mometary obsession with sore thumbs - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 14:39:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ricki Morris Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Merchandise Hi all, Thought you might like to know they have new Buffy stuff at: http://www.tvmerch.com They have a T-shirt, the Cinefantasique mag and some new publicity stills. See ya, Ricki rickimorris@rocketmail.com http://surf.to/buffy WPWP #156 === Keeper of: Willow's beaded choker (SAR), Willow's goofy grin (TED) Willow's egg basket (BE),Willows first date outfit (INNOC) !!!Willow Rules!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:21:12 EST From: Smellcore@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: I am confused In "School Hard" it is mentioned that Spike is around 200 year old. In "Angel" Giles tells Buffy that Angel hasn't taken a human life since he came to america 80 years ago (when he got his soul back and that was shortly after the death of the gypsy girl) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:12:29 -0500 (EST) From: Peter McHugh Subject: Re: BUFFY: End of filming? At 12:56 AM 2/15/98 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone know when Buffy is done filming and what the cast is doing on >hiatus? > >F.Y.G./missile > http://home.switchboard.com/fyg >Founder and President of the Buffy Crew > http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7427/ >Delta Sigma Phi Sargent at Arms > > I think it's at the beginning of April. Sarah will film "Cruel Interventions" with "I Know What You Did Last Summer" co-star Ryan Philippe. I suppose some of the other cast members will do films or other things. Pete ptmchugh@admin.con2.com - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #109 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)