From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #114 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, February 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 114 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal BUFFY: Ideal Mate for Buffy Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal BUFFY: Buffy's Ideal Mate and True Love Re: BUFFY: Mythology Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal BUFFY: (OT) Sarah on Rosie BUFFY: Mini Golf Re: BUFFY: Mythology Re: BUFFY: Prego Buffy Anyone? Re: BUFFY: Prego Buffy Anyone? BUFFY: upcoming episode mirroring an old episode. Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Ideal Mate and True Love BUFFY: buffy and angel Re: BUFFY: Mythology Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Ideal Mate and True Love - spoilers for Rosie O'Donnell interview BUFFY: The Last Word on Diana BUFFY: Buffy on Rosie BUFFY: WB Fanz Club Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular BUFFY: Slayerette families Re: BUFFY: buffy and angel BUFFY: A Male Slayer Re: BUFFY: Slayerette families See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:37:58 +0000 From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love) Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal >Well ... most girlz are for the Buffy/Angel pairing because most girlz, in >that situation, would choose Angel. But more GUYZ can relate to >Xander. I feel for the guy. I am in a similar situation.... true true ... but how can us girls not be drawn to angelus ( yah yah whatever angel for u people who like the good one *shudders* ) ... on the show angel is supposed to be this mysterious tall dark and handsome guy who is totally OFF limits because he's a vampire ... girls like what they can't have =) i just know that some girl is going to email me and go " angel is mine ! and i can too have him " Šarla Keeper of Darla's Lust for Angelus !~ Join the DawsonsCreekMailingList ~! !~ www.coollist.com Listname: dawsonscreek ~! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:37:48 +0000 From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love) Subject: BUFFY: Ideal Mate for Buffy Buffy Ideal Mate doesn't have to be THE "Slayer" * this solves the whole prophecy thing ---> ... A vampire hunter ... catch my drift ? .. he isn't the slayer he is just some really fine buff guy that is strong enough to kill them ( i was thinking he coul d be blonde ... cause no other guy on the show is blonde except oz once in awhile ... not that i don't like tall dark and handsome ... but a blonde guy would be nice ) ... they would atleast have one thing in common ... a job that requires them to kill those lovely vampires that i love so much ... they could have little slayer babies =) once he gets over the fact that she gave her virginity to a vampire ... and omg they could even get married cause he is legaly alive ! on another note ... maybe a slayer could be a guy ... another "mix-up" ... hey it happened once ( kendra ) ... why can't it happen again ? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Galuzo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal I disagree. From what I know about the teenagers who have sex, they do it without thinking of the consequences. In BtVS they showed that the question of pregnancy was nonrelative since Angel said that he could not have kids. On the other hand he doesn't have any diseases because he heals immediately. Basically, he has a super immune system. At least that is the way I understand it. Having considered that, Buffy had sex with the man she loved, while most teenagers at her age do not have such strong feelings for others as Buffy does for Angel. Also, we have to consider the fact that she is not a normal teenager. She is very much mature and can handle everything concerning the consequences under normal circumstances. Of course, she could not have know what was going to happen when they had sex. So I think that she should not be blamed for overlooking this possibility. As for her being a role model, I disagree with that too. She is a great role model, having shown that she loved Angel and wasn't just having sex just to do it. Also you have to consider that she will die young. So she has to experience the best parts about life as soon as possible. I do not think that this was a rush decision and I think that it was great that this happened. Even the turning Angel to Angelus part. Now the viewers (teenagers) can see the depth of her feeling for Angel and that it wasn't just this thing that she did. It was a conscious decision that she made. And since i hope that Angel will be back soon, I think that this will help her forgive him. Sorry for this message being so long. I have very strong feelings about the subject, so here they are. Love, Natalya. P.S. But of course you are entitled to your opinion. On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 DIESEL456@aol.com wrote: >> I didn't like the fact that they did that on the show. Many people continually refer to buffy as a "rolemodel" and, although many teenagers have sex... i don't think that a teenager that does so should be a model for other teenagers. See what I mean? Oh well... you probably don't.<< - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:16:03 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Galuzo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy and Angel I think that he might have been one of those people who was told that he could feed on rats and animals and stuff. I do not think that he knew that he lost his soul and became a demon. That would make to me much more sense since I do not know anyone who would want to become that kind of demon. I think that even Ford did not realize fully what he was going to become, even after Buffy told him. Angel chose to become a vampire while he had a soul that he had after the curse. His soul is being tortured from the knowledge of what he has done, so therefore his soul would not have allowed him to do such a thing as to become a vampire if it had a full knowledge of what is to become of him. So, I think that he might have known that he was going to feed on blood, but he might have thought that he could live on animals. Besides, at the moment that he became a vampire, he was had to choose between life and death. That could put a strain on his thinking for a while. Hope this makes sense. Love, Natalya. On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Kathy Perkins wrote: > I think Buffy and Angel should get back together if he gets his soul back. > However, my big question is this: How did he bacome a Vamp in the first > place? Was he forced into it, or did he think, like Buffy's ex-boyfriend, > that it would be a great idea and go into it voluntarily? That would make > a lot of difference to me. If he was forced, then he's not responsible for > what he has done and should be forgiven. If not, then he should be held > responsible, since he chose the lifestyle. > Any thoughts? > > Kathy > katperk@mindspring.com > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:49:53 +0000 From: Jack Welsh Subject: Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular > I haven't seen this mentioned on the list yet, > but Seth Green (Oz) posted to the Bronze posting > board that he's going to be a regular next season! Woohoo!!! Is anyone else upset about this? Oz was funny at first but now I find his character wearing thin. Also there are way too many people who now know about Buffy (Xander, Willow, Cordelia and Oz). I think Oz should marry Willow and then they both can exit the show gracefully. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:45:35 EST From: KPet44@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal Tony asked if Buffy and Angel had Safe sex, but it doesn't really matter because in the ep "Bad Eggs" Angel tells Buffy that he can't have kids, so no worries about Buffy getting pregnant, cause vamps can't have kiddies! As for the STD factor, i dunno, i'm sure Angel's been around the block more than a few times, i mean he's really really old! Nerissa Keeper of nothing - if ya know of something i could keep that's not taken let me know! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:50:35 EST From: BuffySumr9@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Buffy's Ideal Mate and True Love The idea mate to me would have to be Buffy's true love. In this case it's Angel. C'mon guys! We all know pretty much for a fact that Angel will get his soul back! The Buffy/Angel relationship is like practically the whole show! No way will Joss let Angel be bad for that long! I know the reason most of my friends watch BtVS is cause they love that fact that Buffy and Angel are like Romeo and Juliet. They were both doomed lovers. But maybe in this case, Buffy and Angel, won't be doomed. Maybe they can have a real relationship when Angel gets his soul back. It's practically a given that Angel will get his soul back. To all you Buffy/Xander lovers out there: Buffy and Xander are just friends. Xander luvs Cordy and I'm glad those two got together. Plus we know Buffy would never, ever betray Willow and get a thing going with Xander. And she would never just give up on Angel! After all they shared, how could she? And we know that it's not really Angel saying and doing all those mean things, it's Angelus! Just trying to state my opinion peacfully so please don't bash me for it! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:52:54 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Galuzo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Mythology Diana was never the goddess of love. Venus (Aphrodite) was the goddess of love. Diana was the VIRGIN huntress. She killed men who saw her naked. You can read up on that in many mythology books or the Canterbury Tales which I am reading right now. Natalya. On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 Mokuren26@aol.com wrote: > << Diana (Greek Artemis) as Goddess of Love? >> > > Diana is Supposedly the mother of all witches. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:59:47 EST From: Lizzie2ooo@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular i like the oz character. before him willow had no life and she was the joke character. everyone made fun of her. even her best friend repeatedsly told her that she had no life. i think that oz is good for the character of willow. as for the cast being to big i think this is becoming true. if they keep adding on the way they have been it will be too big and there will be too many "slayerettes". i think it should stay about the way that it is. leslie - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:17:32 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Galuzo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal Remember in "Bad Eggs" Angel said that he could not have sex, therefore they did not have to worry abour Buffy getting pregnant. Natalya. On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 BuffyILove@aol.com wrote: > Just a quick question on the whole Buffy/Angel thing..... Did they have SAFE > sex?!?!?!?!?!?!? :-o > > Imagine the possibilities...... School, slaying vampires, AND babysitting > ?!?!?! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:30:19 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Galuzo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular I agree. I think that it should stay the way it is. But then there is no need for more characters. Everyone is pared off. Buffy-Angel (not now, but hpefully soon will get back together), Xander-Cordelia, Willow-Oz, Giles-Ms. Calendar (I hope they get back together as well). The only other person who knows about this is Ami. But since she is not really in the gang, it doesn't realy matter. So, I do not think that they will be bringing in more people into the show since they do not need to do that. Love, Natalya. On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 Lizzie2ooo@aol.com wrote: >> i think that oz is good for the character of willow. as for the cast being to big i think this is becoming true. if they keep adding on the way they have been it will be too big and there will be too many "slayerettes". i think it should stay about the way that it is.<< - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:25:35 +0000 From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal >Remember in "Bad Eggs" Angel said that he could not have sex, therefore >they did not have to worry abour Buffy getting pregnant. If he couldn't have sex then what did angel and buffy do ? i thinke you mean he can't have baby vampies Šarla Keeper of Darla's Lust for Angelus !~ Join the DawsonsCreekMailingList ~! !~ www.coollist.com Listname: dawsonscreek ~! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Galuzo" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Indecent Proposal That is what I meant. Sorry. Sometimes I make such mistakes. I was on a roll and thought one thing and then wrote another. Sorry!!! Natalya. On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Darla Love wrote: > >Remember in "Bad Eggs" Angel said that he could not have sex, therefore > >they did not have to worry abour Buffy getting pregnant. >=20 > If he couldn't have sex then what did angel and buffy do ?=20 > i thinke you mean he can't have baby vampies=20 >=20 > =D0arla > Keeper of Darla's Lust for Angelus=20 > !~ Join the DawsonsCreekMailingList ~! > !~ www.coollist.com Listname: dawsonscreek ~! >=20 >=20 >=20 > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >=20 >=20 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:37:39 -0500 (EST) From: Peter McHugh Subject: BUFFY: (OT) Sarah on Rosie Anyone see it and is going to transcribe it? I'd be grateful that if someone transcribes it, if they'd send me a copy off-list, please. Pete ptmchugh@admin.con2.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:31:21 EST From: Daphne1784@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Mini Golf Ok, I was going through and watching some episodes for the beginning for the second season and at the end of "When She Was Bad" the first episode in the second season the Xander asked if they were Bronzing that night and Willow goes "Wednesday night, kinda beat" and then Xander goes "how about miniature golf" and then you can barely kind of hear Willow go "there are no courses" so like in "Ted" where did they go to play mini golf? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:55:15 EST From: Mokuren26@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Mythology I never said she was the goddess of love, I got that out of someone else's post. And I did some back tracking and found that she was supposed to have been the very first witch, (there for the mother of witch's) and you cant follow just one book when it comes to this stuff, cause there are many different Diana stories and myths. (those of which do include the huntress, and moon goddess forms) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:01:14 -0800 From: "CHRISTIAN RENNELS" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Prego Buffy Anyone? In a message dated 2/16/98 8:28:17 PM PST, wrigle@yahoo.com writes: >>...sit there and watch blood and guts and death and evil on a weekly basis and be offended by the PC word BITCH?...<< I agree! How come no one has every complained about the use of massive violence on Buffy, but the second Willow says bitch, y'all are up in arms? why is violence more socially acceptable than what you consider bad language? I'm not trying to be rude, just trying to understand everyone's views. >>...so what if Willow and Buffy want sex? They're in high school and they're in love...<< While I agree with the sentiment of this statement, it's foolish to believe that they are in love just yet. I remember in High school being "in love" with someone new every month. But they are over 16, right-correct me if I am wrong on this one! And 16 is the legal age of consent in California. The only problem with that being Angel's age. But if Willow and Oz want to get it on, it's perfectly legal and I see no reason why they can't do things that are perfectly legal. These kids have shown themselves as responsible teenagers, and that does not mean they abstain from sex, but that they deal with sex responsibly, i.e. looking at the consequences and long-term effects and taking proper precautions, then making the decision that they are ready for. Also, if this sex violence bothers you, stop watching! Remember, the ratings in the right hand corner are there for a reason. Just speaking my mind, Gidget keeper of Willows ability to get cuter every episode - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:46:27 -0500 From: "Charlotte Veazie" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Prego Buffy Anyone? moondoggie@thegrid.net >>>...so what if Willow and Buffy want sex? <<< >that they deal with sex responsibly, i.e. looking at the consequences and long-term effects and taking proper precautions, then making the decision that they are ready for. Also, if this sex [and] violence bothers you, stop watching! < Thank you! I get so depressed when I see words like "sex" and "foul" linked together indiscriminately... Yes, there is ugly sex, when force or drugs are involved, or sex where you hate your body and yourself, or think you have nothing else to offer someone, but that's not what Buffy, Willow, or Cordelia are about. Buffy and Cordelia sexually aware women who are comfortable with their bodies and themselves, and I'm glad to see they aren't inhibited by personal or social taboos or emabarrassment (just TV censors) when it comes to personal, romantic, or sexual pleasure (in a precautious way of course)...BUT I am especially happy to see that Willow, who, though cute, is a member of a tribe (colloquially known as "young geeks") noted for modesty and sexual inhibition, is no longer just feeling and stifling her curiousity and lust (lust is a good word, say it too yourself in a mirror until you start giggling), but is acting on it (I mean with Oz, not BBB--though, that ear nibble!!) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:30:37 EST From: Raininfire@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: upcoming episode mirroring an old episode. In a message dated 2/15/98 2:28:11 PM, you wrote: < S > P > O > I > L > E > R > S > P > A > C > E > Buffy is admitted to the hospital with a raging fever where she encounters a > young child that brings nightmares of Buffy's past and present.>> Does this preview remind anyone else of the "Nightmares" episode? Boy in a hospital bringing out people's nightmares? Raininfire@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:31:43 PST From: "Black Fire" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular >no need for more characters. Everyone is pared off. Buffy-Angel (not >now, but hpefully soon will get back together), Xander-Cordelia, >Willow-Oz, Giles-Ms. Calendar (I hope they get back together as well). >The only other person who knows about this is Ami. While I do agree that the team is getting a bit big, this wonderous thought strikes me... Think of the team that Buffy has been able to (involunatily) put together. I mean, aside from Giles and Xander and Willow, she has a gypsy/technopagan, a witch, a werewolf and a vampire (when she gets Angel back) all in her corner. Now, what demon in its right mind, would want to go up against that? Oh... wait... most demons wouldn't think about those things. The Black Fire Blackfire42@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:43:40 EST From: DIESEL456@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: indecent proposal Buffy won't necessarily die young...... most slayers die young only because they are killed at a young age by vampires. Buffy could be the exception... ya never know - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:48:50 EST From: DIESEL456@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Ideal Mate and True Love I don't think that Xander DOES "love" Cordy. On BBB... when he initially thought that Buffy really did have feelings for him... he quickly forgot all about the situation with Cordelia. As far as Angel and Buffy are concerned. How often do teenagers have relationships in highschool and think that they will "last forever".... only to break up shortly after graduating. You can make the argument that this is different because Angel is a vampire and Buffy is the slayer.... but SMG has said numerous times in interviews that the show reflects real life experiences. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:04:30 EST From: Lizzie2ooo@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: buffy and angel why is everyone all up in arms about buffy and angel having sex? at least 75% of the teens i know (and i am a teen) have had sex. all the safe sex talk and the videos have not made a difference and showing sex on tv goes on al the time. no just with buffy. i agree that we should not be having sex but angel felt like she loved angel and whether ya'll want to believe it or not angle loved her. why is that any different than an 25 year old having sex with someone she or he loves. i am just stating an opinion on what people have been going off about a lot lately. leslie - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:02:09 -0500 From: "Charlotte Veazie" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Mythology In a weird way this mythology thread has led me to a new thought on Buffy and Angel's night together having deprived him of his soul...I too had trouble with it from a feminist perspective: yet again, female sexuality castrates the male ...well, close enough (impromptu poll guys, which would *you* rather lose?). Though, to be fair, the writers do seem to be gender-neutral: Xander also has an inordinate amount of bad luck whenever he tries to get laid. While the most recent expression of Buffy's sexuality had a bad consequence, that consequence does not stem from a fault within her or some inherent badness in her, her sexuality or in sex in general, nor does it effect her abilities (in contrast to some legends about witches losing their powers with their virginity--see below). She is still the same person with the same qualities and abilities, just more memories and experience. In response to Mokuren26@aol.com's comment that >>she [Diana] was supposed to have been the very first witch, (there for the mother of witch's)<< This is an interesting thought, I had forgotton about the legends about witches, that are similar to some Amazon legends, in that witches were supposed to remain virgins to retain their powers. - --in some ways this seems to imply that the women are pure until sullied by men, sex or lust, but that's only because modern viewers tend to see amazons and witches as heroes. But originally they (witches and amazons) were unnatural, monstrous boogeywomen; thus a happy ending entailed them losing their powers and either being killed or subordinated to men. The greeks did not necessarily see Diana/Artemis as a woman, by remaining a virgin (and enshrined thusly by Zeus) she was effectively desexed, this is one reason she could be associated with so many masculine arts in a society with fairly strict gender codes and distinctly unfavorable images of women. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:26:10 -0500 From: Janis Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy's Ideal Mate and True Love - spoilers for Rosie O'Donnell interview > You can make the argument that this is > different because Angel is a vampire and Buffy is the slayer.... but SMG has > said numerous times in interviews that the show reflects real life > experiences. SMG said on Rosie O'Donnell today that Buffy loves Angel. I believe it was right after they showed the clip of her beating up Angelus in 'Innocence' when Rosie {who obviously doesn't watch Buffy} said "And this is the guy she likes????" SMG said "This is the guy she loves." Or very close to that. Isis - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:27:09 EST From: CalliScrlt@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: The Last Word on Diana This whole goddess Diana thing is getting a might out of hand, so here I quote Edith Hamilton's Mythology, the last word on mythy matters. ~~~~~~~ Diana: As Phoebus the sun, she was the moon, called Phoebe and Selene (Luna in Latin). .... In the later poets, Diana is identified with Hecate(DING, DING!). She is 'the goddess with three forms,' Selene in the sky, Diana on earth, Hecate in the lower world and in the world above when it is wrapped in darkness. Hecate was the goddess of the Dark of the Moon, the black nights when the moon is hidden. She was associated with deeds of darkness, the Goddess of the Crossways, which were held to be ghostly places of evil magic. An awful divinity. ~~~~~~~~~ Hope that clears things up! Amys Moiriarti "Wild on me....equals spaz." Guardian of Oz's Confusion over waking up Naked in the Woods Keeper of Willow's Pick-axe Keeper of Willow's Blunt Make-out Request to Oz P.S. While I'm here, Oz rocks! And everyone whining about him joining the show needs to examine his coolness once again. P.P.S. To that guy who said that Willow and Oz should marry and exit the show gracefully: The day Willow leaves the show, Buffy will be turned into a vampire and the Apocalypse will begin. She needs a man. Why begrudge her that? Plus, Willow and Oz are my favorite characters and couple! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:38:35 EST From: BuffySumr9@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Buffy on Rosie DOes anyone know when Rosies will re-air with SMG on it cause I missed it! Stupid me! Any help is appreciated greatly! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:28:51 -0500 From: GORDON K CUMMING Subject: BUFFY: WB Fanz Club Hi everybody, There is a new club called WB Fanz. It is a very cool club, where you can win downloads from your favorite shows. If you love Buffy and/or Dawsons Creek and 7th Heaven. Just e-mail me if you want to join and I will send you the info to join. There is also a club page with a special Buffy section. Plus there is a newsletter that comes out 2 times a month, and you can write articles for it. A great way to promote the show more. OB Buffy:Did anyone see Buffy on Rosie today (February 17th). I thought it was a cute interview. They showed the clip where Buffy and Angel are fighting inthe mall (innocence) and she kicks him. After the clip Rosie gave Buffy a high five for doing it. I thought it was cute. Jennifer Cumming Keeper of Angel's House Keys Willow's Smiley Face Backpack and Her Eagerness for Oz To Get A Gold Star. builder@comnet.ca - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:43:53 -0500 From: Barb Taylor Subject: Re: BUFFY: Seth (Oz) a regular >I think that it should stay the way it is. But then there is > no need for more characters. Everyone is pared off. Buffy-Angel (not > now, but hpefully soon will get back together), Xander-Cordelia, > Willow-Oz, Giles-Ms. Calendar (I hope they get back together as well). Ah, but where would the reality of the relationships be? I know with my friends we're not all paired off. (Far from it). Brian P.S. - The D in the ratings box stands for "Suggestive Dialogue" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:50:08 -0500 From: Barb Taylor Subject: BUFFY: Slayerette families I've thought about this for a while, and here is my take on the Slayerette home situation: 1. Buffy- Single divorced mother (duh) who feels inadequate in her parenting skills so consults books and tapes on the subject. ("The tapes all say I should get used to saying it") 2. Willow- I'm going to have to say scientist, or other intellectual career type parents. Her dad seems to be the absent minded professor type. ("Dad, did you forget your keys AGAIN?") 3. Oz- "A circus freak! He's probably a circus freak!". I'm thinking showbiz parents, if not actual Circus ones. 4. Cordelia- Think Cher from Clueless. Her mother died when she was young, and she was spoiled by her father. 5. Xander- I don't want to go into this again...we had this discussion already. Bored out of my mind, Brian outnumbr@bellatlantic.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 18:00:50 -0500 (EST) From: Clause Jacklynn Ann Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy and angel I am glad that someone finally defended Buffy's decision to sleep with Angel. Come on guys, even Giles didn't repremand her or look at her with disdain after he had realized what had happened between the two. The truth of the matter is that teens do have sex. Some are stupid about it and do not use protection or birth control and end up being teen moms. Others are smart about it, like Buffy, and engage in it only when they know they are properly protected from negative outcomes. I applaud Buffy not only because I too would sleep with Angel if given the chance but also because she was smart about it... Love, Jackie, Angel's Love Slave Keeper of Cordy's Allure magazine and Buffy's D&G tank> > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:20:09 -0800 From: "Tammy Place" Subject: BUFFY: A Male Slayer I was wondering why the slayer would not be a male, I do not want to have a debate with femnist on the list but it is a proven fact that on avrage males are stonger, and have a mind more capable of dealing with combat, plus it would be easier for the watcher because they would not have to deal with all of the problems Teenage girls go though. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:14:13 +0000 From: vxdarlaxv@juno.com (Darla Love) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Slayerette families 6. Amy ~ Psycho Witch Mom who isn't around much because she is stuck in a cheerleading statue couldn't resist =) Šarla Keeper of Darla's Lust for Angelus !~ Join the DawsonsCreekMailingList ~! !~ www.coollist.com Listname: dawsonscreek ~! >1. Buffy- Single divorced mother (duh) who feels inadequate in her >parenting skills so consults books and tapes on the subject. ("The >tapes >all say I should get used to saying it") > >2. Willow- I'm going to have to say scientist, or other intellectual >career type parents. Her dad seems to be the absent minded professor >type. ("Dad, did you forget your keys AGAIN?") > >3. Oz- "A circus freak! He's probably a circus freak!". I'm thinking >showbiz parents, if not actual Circus ones. > >4. Cordelia- Think Cher from Clueless. Her mother died when she was >young, and she was spoiled by her father. > >5. Xander- I don't want to go into this again...we had this discussion >already. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #114 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)