From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #234 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, April 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 234 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: A song that I think would fit the Angel and Buffy relationship. Re: BUFFY: David on the radio BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules Re: BUFFY: 1st or 2nd better? BUFFY: catalog BUFFY: More buffy/Angel Tunes BUFFY: Buffy theme songs BUFFY: MARRIAGE IS FALSE! BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise BUFFY: Buffy/Angel Song Thread Re: BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise Re: BUFFY: David on the radio Re: BUFFY: 1st or 2nd better? Re: BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise Re: BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise BUFFY: BtVS ALA cast poster Re: BUFFY: the songs for Buffy and Angel thread BUFFY: Next week episode BUFFY: Trading cards BUFFY: RE: trading cards - PRIVATE E-mail please BUFFY: Joss Having A Way For Angel To Be Forgiven - SPOILERS BUFFY: Previews.. Re: BUFFY: Suprise/Innocence BUFFY: Other couples' songs? See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:53:00 -0700 From: lrous@juno.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: A song that I think would fit the Angel and Buffy relationship. You asked for it; here's my choices: "I Love the Night" by Blue Oyster Cult, "Nosferatu" by Blue Oyster Cult, "Cherry Pie" by Warrant, "(Boom Boom) Out Go the Lights" by Pat Travers, "Back in Black" by AC/DC, "Highway to H*ll" by AC/DC, "Burning for You" by Blue Oyster Cult, "Desperate But Not Serious" by Adam and the Ants, "Ten Years Gone" by Led Zeppelin, "Angel Eyes" by Steelheart, "Love Bites" by Judas Priest, "If Looks Could Kill" by Heart, "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf, "I Think I'm Going Blind" by Kiss. I think that's enough for now. Don't even get me started on Xander/Cordy's relationship. Len R. -- I'm living for giving the devil his due. And I'm burning for you. "Blue Oyster Cult" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:57:15 -0400 From: VHouston Subject: Re: BUFFY: David on the radio He was on this morning, and is going to be on on Saturday, somtime between 7:00 and 10:00, or something like that, IF he's still in the city. BuffyChic4 wrote: > I live in Connecticut and get Z100, but I had no idea he was going to be on. > Can anyone confirm this because last week he won this Hottie of the Week > contest they have on Z100 and they said that next week which would be this > coming Saturday, any time from 7-10 pm, that they would bring him on the show. > > ~Cathy > BuffyChic4@aol.com > http://members.aol.com/smeegzcacs/index.html > Member of the Buffy Crew > If you are looking for a great Angel Fan Club/Mailing List, then join > LoveAlways, Angel @http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/8697 & tell > them Cathy sent you! > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:16:36 -0400 (EDT) From: sah (by way of sah ) Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules Welcome! This list is for discussion of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer," both the TV series and the movie. The address to post messages to the list is BUFFY@LISTS.XMISSION.COM. 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If you have s*bscription problems or questions, the fastest way to get h*lp is to e-mail one of us at the addresses below, at the kirby@xmission.com addy which is the "official" e-mail owner of the list. Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) sah (romana@mindspring.com) Listowners & Lisa Rose (cybrpaws@wco.com) Assistant Listowner Buffy the Vampire Slayer Discussion List buffy@lists.xmission.com - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:45:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Monet Subject: Re: BUFFY: 1st or 2nd better? This is actually a great question. However, just because I do like one better than the other, it doesn't mean the other isn't great. I tend to go for the first season mainly because the shows (not all, mind you) had great suspense and twists. Although, now that I think about it, I used to read spoilers before WML came out so that pretty much ruined it :) "The Witch" is my all time fav, with "Passion" at a VERY, VERY close second, and each comes from a different season. One of the reasons the second season is second on my list is because there was a point when Buffy and Angel got TOO mushy that it got ANNOYING. Still, the second season isn't disappointing me one bit, and there is more to come in a week! I can't wait! G:) ============================================================ XANDER:"Man, Buffy. My whole life just flashed before my eyes! I gotta get me a life." (Buffy, the Vampire Slayer) ============================================================ monet@arches.uga.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:12:51 EDT From: Atina10 Subject: BUFFY: catalog in case you missed the digest when i asked if anyone knew of a buffy catalog i'm addressing this question again: does anyone know of a buffy catalog? please e-mail me privately if you have my answer., - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:46:47 PDT From: "Lady Cietdubh" Subject: BUFFY: More buffy/Angel Tunes Okay, i know if my mother ever knew I'd forgotten about this one, she'd have my head examined. :> There's a celtic rock group based out of SF called Tempest, one of my favorites. They have a song that is *perfect* for Buffy and Angel. It's called "Dark Lover (Love song for a vampire)". I don't have all the lyrics with me now...i may get them and post them later, but the basic premise is this: a girl is waiting in the darkness for her lover, who happens to be a vampire. she lets him drink fom her so that he can keep his strength and he never drinks enough to kill her. The part that always reminds me of Buffy and Angel is the refrain: "Love wears a death mask, and life is a liar." Lady C~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:01:42 -0500 From: Greg & Angie Kaelberer Subject: BUFFY: Buffy theme songs Daryl Rodriguez wrote: >There is one song that I think would fit Buffy and Angel after they broke up because of the soul thing. The song is called "Shot Through The >Heart". Then, Lady Cietdubh wrote: I say, if we want to get really angsty with the songs for after the "break-up", let's go with Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name". (snip) I think both of you are thinking of the same song (Lady has the correct title). Opening lines: Shot through the heart and you're to blame Darling, you give love a bad name Regards, Angie - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:59:31 PDT From: "Sara Barton" Subject: BUFFY: MARRIAGE IS FALSE! Okay--I just heard that the marriage is false! On a radio station, David said that he made a mistake--can you believe it? A MISTAKE!!!-- calling Ingrid his wife! AKKKK! I am soooo happy now!!! *sArA* Come join the club! Love Always, Angel! Just say that Sara Barton sent ya! http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/8697/index.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:01:06 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise Last week's repeat of Surprise got a 2.4 rating in the national Nielsen ratings for households, placing it in a tie for 106th out of 114 prime time shows; out of the 14 WB programs, Buffy tied for 10th. The WB's top show was 7th Heaven with a 3.7, good for a tie for 93rd overall. A repeat of Dawson's Creek got a 3.0. For comparison purposes, the last four repeats had the following national household ratings: Bad Eggs received a 2.8, What's My Line, Parts 1 and 2 both got a 2.9, and Ted had a 3.4. The new episodes can't start too soon in my book -- that's the kind of number that Buffy repeats used to get back in the ratings dark ages of the first season. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com http://www.iaw.on.ca/~rohaly/tvschedule/buffy.html (archive of Buffy's Nielsen ratings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:10:08 -0700 From: Dawn Murrell Subject: BUFFY: Buffy/Angel Song Thread I'd like to remined everyone that I have a website dedicated to songs about buffy/angel on my site at: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/9592/basongs.html E-mail me PRIVATELY with your submissions, if you have posted a song to the list, please send it to me. Dawn sunrise84@geocities.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: sah Subject: Re: BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise At 07:01 PM 4/21/98, Jeff Rohaly wrote: >The new episodes can't start too soon in my book -- that's the kind of >number that Buffy repeats used to get back in the ratings dark ages of the >first season. I've got to agree. Six weeks of repeats was a huge mistake for a series that was showing the kind of growth Buffy was. The upheaval of the episodes during February sweeps needed the follow through, and I think *not* doing that caused the slide in ratings. I know I haven't tuned in for the repeats, because I've already seen them, and have them on tape. I'm almost a little afraid of what ratings for the new episodes are going to be like. Hopefully WB will be smart and have a big advertising push for them, so people know the show is back. - --sah - -- sah * romana@mindspring.com * romana@aol.com NatPack * BotCoS * Jungle Patrol * BBPGrrl:TGLIL * Bishop * BTVS Listowner Nat's B&B: http://free.prohosting.com/~romana/natpack/html My homepage: http://free.prohosting.com/~romana/index.html "In front of me, facing me and the bank of journalists, was the Senate Judiciary Committee: Fourteen white men in dark grey suits." Anita Hill - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:34:18 -0700 From: twikos@webtv.net (Lupe Mejia) Subject: Re: BUFFY: David on the radio ok if you have a copy of when David was on z100 this morning Please i would trade or pay for a copy, i would really apreciate it! & since he is going to be on saturday too, if somebody could make me a copy of that, i would really really aprecite it! i can trade or pay. thanks! hope to hear from somebody. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:50:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter McHugh Subject: Re: BUFFY: 1st or 2nd better? > So, IMHO, the second season rocks! I'm curious to see what others >think. > >Trudi Well, if you're talking about single episodes, I think the first season had the best "buffy" ever so far in the finale, "Prophecy Girl", but talking about a whole season, Season 2 is better in terms of developing the many ongoing storylines and dramatic plotlines. Still, Seasons 1 and 2 had thier different vibes (both good), and to sum it up, I'm just glad they didn't let me down from Season 1. Pete ptmchugh@admin.con2.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:42:31 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise sah : >I'm almost a little afraid of what ratings for the new episodes are going >to be like. Hopefully WB will be smart and have a big advertising push for >them, so people know the show is back. I assume that was the thinking on having Charisma Carpenter and David Boreanaz on talk shows the past week. But as I mentioned before, I liked CC's interview but the show itself was barely mentioned; certainly nothing about what's coming up. David Boreanaz did say something on Rosie about watching the upcoming two-parter. We all know what that means and when it's on but I'm sure the casual Buffy viewer wouldn't. I guess just their appearances though might trigger the memories of infrequent viewers to catch the show again. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:41:10 -0600 From: Annie Weyand Subject: Re: BUFFY: National ratings for Surprise >Six weeks of repeats was a huge mistake for a series that was showing >the kind of growth Buffy was. No kidding. It also might have been helpful if they had run eps from season one or even just earlier in season two, instead of replaying the same ones that we have just seen. Grrrrr. Annie - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:40:58 EDT From: fun-ee@juno.com (fu nee) Subject: BUFFY: BtVS ALA cast poster I just got my copy of the Spring/Summer American Library Association (ALA) Graphics Catalog. It contains many new pro-library/literacy/reading items, among these, the new Buffy the Vampire Slayer cast poster which contains the following item description: New Buffy the Vampire Slayer Cast Poster Outsmart the enemy at the library! Bufy and her gang unearth centuries of knowledge with guidance from Giles, the librarian. $10, Item #5015-0198 Above this is a 6" picture of the poster itself which measures in actuality 22" x 34". The caption on the poster reads: 'SLAY IGNORANCE At The Library' (done in the type of lettering they run the opening credits of the show in. In the lower left-hand corner is a small heading: 'The Cast Of Buffy The Vampire Slayer For America's Libraries'. The poster is a stock publicity photo that ALA Graphic Designer Kathy Repholz tried to decorate the edges of, featuring from left to right David Boreanz (Angel, standing), Sarah Michelle Gellar (Buffy, standing), Alyson Hannigan (Willow, standing), Anthony Stewart Head (Giles, standing), Charisma Carpenter (Cordelia, standing), and in the front sitting Nicholas Brendon (Xander). Looks like they are standing on a wooden platform with an ancient columns and shards with hieroglyphics on them. I'm disappointed they didn't use a library setting and let the cast hold books...but maybe next time, as Kathy said that BtVS is a popular show and they may do another poster. In any case, if you are a fan of Buffy and a student, teacher, book lover or library enthusiast, it's a poster you'll want to have. You may get a free copy of the ALA Graphics catalog containing this and many other celebrity posters and merchandise promoting libraries by calling toll free: 1-800-545-2433. If you are out of the United States you could try Fax: 312-836-9958 or e-mailing: mweirich@ala.org _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:06:09 +1000 From: Krystyna Horsten Subject: Re: BUFFY: the songs for Buffy and Angel thread As for songs, how about, "I'll be wtching you" by the Police? tan3@cornell.edu wrote: > Had to jump on the song bandwagon for just this one part... > > On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Blu2cool wrote: > > > from Angel's POV now: Everything I Do, I Do it For You - Bryan Adams > > How about "Every Breath You Take" by the Police. It's probably already > been mentioned, but I missed it. > > Cheers! > > Tracey > tan3@cornell.edu > Keeper of the Cluelessness of the Rest of the School > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:01:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "F.Y.G." Subject: BUFFY: Next week episode True story: called up someone during last scene of Buffy...she was crying AND watching her first episode of Buffy tanx to me. Then she screams "It was all a lie thank god!" during the preview for next week. I think the last 4 episodes are gonna kick major butt and the last episode will probably be over a 7.0 in the Nielsons (I hope!). F.Y.G./missile http://members.xoom.com/fyg Founder and President of the Buffy Crew http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7427/ Delta Sigma Phi Sargent at Arms - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 98 19:59:50 PDT From: "Sapphire" Subject: BUFFY: Trading cards For those of you who are interested in the BtVS trading cards, and don't = know where to get them, I have a family member who is a distributer for Sci-fi= collectibles. She is keeping her eyes peeled for them and I will know THE SECOND they = become available. If anyone is interested in ordering them, e-mail me, and I wil= l keep a list and let her know what kind of interest she would have in them. So far, = they are not listed in the distributer's catalog yet. I can't wait...I am more excited about = those than the XF movie cards I just ordered :) Sapphire: sapphire@chaos.taylored.com X-Over Crossover list admin: X-Over: XF Crossover archive http://www.busprod.com/aclaybor Taking the Challenge: BtVS Challenge Archive ; SPCDD; LOMIG ; G-Woman #3 Keeper of Willow's momentary obsession with sore thumbs, Willow's whimper of sadness for her dead fish and her fake frog fit in = KBD - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 98 20:08:38 PDT From: "Sapphire" Subject: BUFFY: RE: trading cards - PRIVATE E-mail please One more thing, please make sure that you e-mail me privately if you are = interested in the cards, k? I know how annoying it is to get my mailbox filled with tha= t stuff if I don't want it :) Sapphire: sapphire@chaos.taylored.com X-Over Crossover list admin: X-Over: XF Crossover archive http://www.busprod.com/aclaybor Taking the Challenge: BtVS Challenge Archive ; SPCDD; LOMIG ; G-Woman #3 Keeper of Willow's momentary obsession with sore thumbs, Willow's whimper of sadness for her dead fish and her fake frog fit in = KBD - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:31:19 EDT From: BuffySumr9 Subject: BUFFY: Joss Having A Way For Angel To Be Forgiven - SPOILERS Spoiler Space ********** ********* ******** ******* ****** ***** **** *** ** * - -- If you watched the previews for "I Only Have Eyes For You" after "Innocence" tonight, then you would have notcied the narrator's voicing over: "It's an unearthy mystery that will bring Buffy and Angel together." - -- I think this means that somehow, Angel's spirit will come to Buffy and crew and when his soul is returned, this allows everyone to forgive him. I think that the distinguishment between Angel and Angelus will be clearly shown in this episode. Did you see when they were kissing at the end of the preview and there was a white mist hanging over them...? I think this is Angel's spirit entering the body and, at that time, probably leaving it. I know this sounds kinda strange but anything could happen and it's definitly not the most asinine possibilty that I have heard. {Reference to the Angel/Willow thing in the finale...ack!} Lots 'o Luv Ashley http://members.aol.com/BuffySumr9/sunnydale.html Official Keeper of Buffy's Quote: "I can't live in the past anymore. Angel is gone. And nothings ever going to bring him back." - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:04:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Monet Subject: BUFFY: Previews.. I think I was more excited about getting to the end of the show than I was with the show itself! I just HAD to see next week's episode; ahh, a brand, spanking new one. :) It was a good teaser, too. The song playing in the background was a wonderful touch (especially for those who know the name of the epi.) I do tend to agree that the producers or whoever, made a mistake in putting so many repeats. I heard Noah Wyle when he was on "Rosie" with David say they also tape 22 episodes of "ER." But I think they spread it out just right, although they really don't need to! They have like four more new episodes (like BtVS) from now, but they also showed two new ones the past two weeks. G :) ============================================================ XANDER:"Man, Buffy. My whole life just flashed before my eyes! I gotta get me a life." (Buffy, the Vampire Slayer) ============================================================ monet@arches.uga.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:49:35 -0300 From: Aida or Fernanda Subject: Re: BUFFY: Suprise/Innocence VampGrl22 wrote: > > Also, I have always thought that the episode titles for these two parts should > have been reversed...Maybe Angel's change was the loss of Buffy's innocence. The title >for the first part of the ep, "Suprise," is more fitting. Dear Buffy fans, :D I think both titles fit well for each episode. I think SURPRISE is the beggining of the loss of Buffy's INNOCENCE. I mean, in the 1st part Angel surprises Buffy a few times...not only in the end when he loses his soul. He surprises her when he kisses her in his apartment, he surprises her letting her know he would love to wake up and have her laid beside him, he surprises when he gives her the ring ( sorry I forgot its name) and finally, he surprises her when he says that he loves her. In the 2nd part, we have the END of Buffy's INNOCENCE, not only related to the loss of her virginity but her condition of being morally pure. Now she realizes things have changed. She will be able to think as a woman not as a teenager, even though she faces lots of issues and weird things as a slayer. Now she is more mature concerning LOVE and other HUMAN feelings such as hate, forgiveness or redemption. There is also Willow's loss of INNOCENCE. She finds out about Xander and Cordelia's relationship. She realizes how "blind" she had been and she knows that from now on her relationship with Xander is nothing but pure friendship, not only because she wants to but only to help Buffy. I guess there is a connection between Buffy and Willow and how both characters changed their point of view and attitude towards the loss of their INNOCENCE. Please forgive me for any English mistakes! Aida from Brazil - -- "If I fail, at least I will have failed my way instead of failing someone else's way" Jodie Foster (actress and movie director) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:20:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Brandy Subject: BUFFY: Other couples' songs? How about songs for Oz/Willow? Or Cordelia/Xander? Or even Giles/Jenny? Here's a few... Oz/Willow-------------"Blue Moon" of course!!!!! "I Wanna Be Sedated" by the Ramones "Big Bad Wolf" (some 50s song i heard) Cordelia/Xander-------"Love is Strange" "I Hate Everything About YOU" by Ugly Kid Joe Buffy/Angel------------"Love Hurts" "Murder By Number" by The Police "Zero" by Smashing Pumpkins "Send Me an Angel" by Garbage Giles/Jenny-------------"Lovefool" by The Cardigans "My Heart Will Go On" by Celine Dion that's all i can think of right now...if you can think of more, add them on!!!! Tina Line that Drucilla SHOULD"VE said "I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!" - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #234 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. 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