From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #364 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, July 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 364 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Monday Night Buffys BUFFY: GASP!: Future Mention in a Book (Giles Keepers (fwd)) Re: BUFFY: Monday Night Buffys BUFFY: Books... Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments BUFFY: Buffy Video news/rumor from usenet BUFFY: JOC and SMG BUFFY: Technopagan BUFFY: Overnight Ratings for IRYJ BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe Re: BUFFY: That extra guy BUFFY: Angel Chronicals Re: BUFFY: Buffy Video news/rumor from usenet RE: BUFFY: corkscrew Re: BUFFY: Technopagan Re: BUFFY: Telling Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe BUFFY: SMG TV Guide BUFFY: birthday flubs Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe BUFFY: more seth appearances Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe BUFFY: Location of Sunnydale Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments Re: BUFFY: Angel Chronicles Re: BUFFY: That extra guy Re: BUFFY: Angel Chronicles Re: BUFFY: Buffy Video news/rumor from usenet BUFFY: Review--I Robot, You Jane. See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 01:35:11 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: Re: BUFFY: Monday Night Buffys > Anyone know if the WB is planning to show all the episodes from the first > season one Mondays? So far we've seen the Pilot, "The Witch," "Never Kill > a Boy on the First Date," "The Pack," and tonight "I, Robot--You Jane." > Apparently we've skipped "Teacher's Pet" and "Angel." Well yes and no. "Angel" is on next week. They are showing all the first season eps in order except that they reversed IRYJ and Angel and they are skipping Teacher's Pet and Puppet Show entirely. Here is the entire summer schedule up to the premier:MON 7/13/98 - Angel (first season ep) TUES 7/14/98 - I Only Have Eyes For You MON 7/20/98 - Nightmares(first seas.) TUES 7/21/98 - The Dark Age MON 7/27/98 - Out of Mind, Out of Sight aka invisible girl (first seas.) TUES 7/28/98 - School Hard MON 8/3/98 - Prophecy Girl (season 1 finale) TUES 8/4/98 - When She Was Bad (season 2 premiere) MON 8/10/98 - What's My Line (part 1) TUES 8/11/98 - What's My Line (part 2) MON 8/17/98 - Surprise TUES 8/18/98 - Innocence MON 8/24/98 - Bad Eggs TUES 8/25/98 - Passion MON 8/31/98 - Reptile Boy TUES 9/1/98 - Go Fish MON 9/7/98 - Ted (John Ritter guest stars) TUES 9/8/98 - I Only Have Eyes For You MON 9/14/98 - Killed By Death TUES 9/15/98 - Becoming Part 1 (season 2 finale) MON 9/21/98 - HYPERION Series Premiere (new show) TUES 9/22/98 - Becoming Part 2 (season 2 finale) TUES 9/29/98 - TBA (Buffy - season 3 premiere!!!) ~Ryan > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: GASP!: Future Mention in a Book (Giles Keepers (fwd)) This made my day! Sonja Marie - whtrose@eskimo.com, gaspers@eskimo.com - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:02:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Nikki Stafford (address deleted for privacy) To: gaspers@eskimo.com Subject: Giles Keepers Dear Sonja Marie, My name is Nikki Stafford and I am completing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer book which will be published in September. I have a website section in the book (where your links site is listed) and there is a section where I list the Keeper sites. I was just wondering if you could clarify one thing for me: does a person have to be a GASP fan club member to keep something of Giles'? I just need to know for the notes in the book. I've also been following the controversy surrounding that buffy.org site. Whew! I think I'll make their site as low-key as possible, if I mention them at all. If you have any suggestions, please don't hesitate to let me know. I think your ASH site is wonderful. Thanks for your time! Nikki _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 00:12:04 -0600 From: David Simpson Subject: Re: BUFFY: Monday Night Buffys On Mon, 06 Jul 1998, M.S. wrote: <> The posted schedule of Monday night reruns of the first season episodes for the rest of the summer is as follows: Monday, July 13 - Angel Monday, July 20 - Nightmares Momday, July 27 - Out of Sight, Out of Mind (aka Invisible Girl) Monday, August 3 - Prophecy Girl (season 1 finale) After August 3, Monday reruns will be of second season episodes. Teacher's Pet and Puppet Show are not being rerun. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Angelus: No weapons... no friends... no hope. Take all that away... and what's left? Buffy: Me. - --- Becoming Part 2 (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:20:03 PDT From: "Marat Sade" Subject: BUFFY: Books... I was wondering if somebody could send me a list of the Buffy books.... thanks, Marat http://www.geocities.com/TelevisonCity/Set/6691/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 00:10:34 -0700 From: Mark Subject: Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments >2. I can't believe the same writer and director put together that >brilliant final "None of us will ever have a normal relationship" Nothing to base this on, but that scene had the feel of Joss' writing touch, to me. This was probably discussed when the ep aired first season... Did anyone else notice the screens where Buffy's record was shown. First has a birthdate of 10/24/80(?) and listed her as a sophmore. Second had a birthdate of 5/6/79 and listed her as a senior(!). Both dates wrong now thanks to "Surprise". Mark - FanFic at http://bvs.cjb.net -or- http://btvs.cjb.net slayer@cheerful.com -or- slayer@hhdevel.com -or- techno@pagans.org Keeper of Buffy's imagery, Buffy's becoming [Becoming], and Buffy's saving of the world, again [Becoming]. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 08:12:13 GMT From: flagg@wwa.com (Flagg) Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Video news/rumor from usenet I just found this on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, so I don't know how reliable it is, but at least this person actually provides REAL INFORMATION, like dates and prices . :) Anyway, it fits in nicely with all the rumors we've been hearing of September video releases and such... It sounds like they're following the X-Files video release model. Too bad they're not releasing 6 tapes so we'd get the whole first season. Hopefully it won't be too long a wait. - --Flagg =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D On Sept 22, Fox will release 3 tapes with 2 shows on each..... Tape 1: Welcome to the Hellmouth / The Harvest Tape 2: The Witch / Never kill a boy on the 1st date Tape 3: Angel / The Puppet show Each tape is $15 Check out my NEW VIDEO RELEASE DATE Page at: Http://www.knip.com/video Updated Daily Enjoy, Keith - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 04:34:25 -0400 From: Mina-Clare Moseley Subject: BUFFY: JOC and SMG On Jerry and Sarah: >Well he certainly must have had a chance when they were both >working on Scream-II. Is he shy, or is she uninterested? >Hey Jerry, *I'M* interested! To conclude the Jerry/Sarah rumour: He DOES have a crush on her. Jerry confirmed it, and said if anyone could get him a date with her, to please do. I think it's just that he's shy. On a side note, I think Jerry's brother, Charlie, is just the cutest (other than Seth Green and James Marsters) Mina-- One of the original JODS (Jerry O'Connell Drool Society member.) - ------- "Scary to cope to have to deal but sometimes it works out, gets real. Don't quit just before the miracle." - -- Peter Tork Special Agent Mina Mallory Nezwalker-Green the Vampire Slayer (What a mouthful!) Also Known As Mina-Clare Moseley mailto:dmoseley@interhop.net My site of the week: The Jedi Haven http://skywalker.iscool.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:10:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kte'pi" Subject: BUFFY: Technopagan "Technopagan" is legitimate insofar as it predates its usage on BtVS. It's been around at least a decade. Personally, I'm sick both of it and other -pagan words used to describe peoples' religious choices, since "pagan" has no specific meaning other than "non-Jewish, non-Muslim, non-Christian", and doesn't actually refer to the pre-Christian western religions self-styled pagans seem to believe it does ... ... but that's just me. - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "A being can only be touched where it yields. For a woman, this is under her dress; and for a god, it's on the throat of the animal being sacrificed." :: George Bataille, "Guilty" - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Bill Kte'pi http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/4186/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:25:40 -0400 From: "Jeff Rohaly" Subject: BUFFY: Overnight Ratings for IRYJ Last night's repeat of I Robot, You Jane (the 3rd time it's been shown) received a 3.5 rating/6 share in the overnight Nielsen ratings for households. Overnight ratings are based on viewing in only 40 of the largest television markets, not the nation as a whole. The 7th Heaven that preceded it got a 3.6/6 (down from a 4.1/7 last week). Here are the overnights for the Monday Buffy repeats: June 29, The Pack: 3.6/6 June 22, NKABOTFD: 3.3/5 June 15, The Witch: 3.8/6 Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com http://www.iaw.on.ca/~rohaly/tvschedule/buffy.html (archive of Buffy's Nielsen ratings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:33:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Ngan Subject: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe Let's talk about SMG's wardrobe... I think that during Season I, SMG's wardrobe was more alluring and sexy than that of her later episodes in Season II. My theory is that since the entire cast filmed the entire first season *BEFORE* it aired on TV, and followin the notion that sex sells, wanted to draw in young teenage viewers to watch the show. But as the show gradually built a loyal, almost cult following of fans; and the quality of acting/scripts/and threads began to increase in quality and depth, the wardrobe tapered off from the outlandishly sexy/revealing to the (dare I say it) conservative look in the latter half of Season II. Granted, there have been scenes where Buffy's wardrobe has flashes from last year, but not to the extent and the edge of Season II. Now one could argue that Season II was supposedly set during the Fall and winter months. But come on....Sunnydale is in southern CA. Speaking from experience, (I live in Southern CA), if the temp drops below 75, we all scream Ice Age. So what do you all think? David Ngan ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu dngan@lykos.netpart.com http://aznet.net/~buffylvr/index.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 09:33:10 PDT From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy That extra guy is Lance, he was also in Go Fish, Passion (I think). I believe that someone should do a page on Lance, and Joss should do an episode on him, like a day in the life of a "normal" Sunnydale student and we should get to see how other people view the Scooby Gangs goings on through a third party. Gee I hope that made sense? Ciao Ms. Gwyn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:39:42 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Angel Chronicals Well, they may have more then the one book, but how are we to know until they announce it. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 12:39:40 -0700 From: Lawless Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Video news/rumor from usenet When I talked with a few of the Buffy merchandisers, including Power Star Collectibles who will be carrying all the videos, those were the same release dates that they were given from FOX a couple of weeks ago. - -L Flagg wrote: > I just found this on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, so I don't know how > reliable it is, but at least this person actually provides REAL > INFORMATION, like dates and prices . :) Anyway, it fits in nicely > with all the rumors we've been hearing of September video releases and > such... - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:42:54 -0400 From: "Beth Mims" Subject: RE: BUFFY: corkscrew Just a thought, but I'd think you are probably being Waaaaaaaaaay to naive :) Charles > so, where did ms.calendar hang that jewelry ornament? a belly-button > ring? or am i just being way to naive? anyways, i'm puzzled. > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 09:49:35 PDT From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Technopagan <> The definition of pagan from the Webster's New Ninth Ed. is (verbatim) 1) a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome). 2) one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods: an irreligious or hedonistic person. I don't go by the second definition in Webster's b/c this dictionary is is one of the most racist, ethic-biased books on the market today. But anyway My definition of the word "pagan" is earth based and definitely polytheistic (multiple gods) and it means before Christianity. In the bible, Jezebel was "pagan" b/c she didn't practice her husband's religion, and was called the "whore of babylon" b/c of this, I will not use this platform to go off on the bible. Sorry I didn't mean to go off on this tangent. I'll go back to my lurking corner now. Ciao Ms. Gwyn Proud to say that I'm a PAGAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:57:04 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Telling In a message dated 98-07-06 17:03:36 EDT, you write: << Humm, this is a really interesting point that I havn't heard anyone bring up yet. So is Whistler as "guilty" as Xander, then, for sending Angel to hell? >> Look, i dont know how many times i have said this....Xander is not guilty for sending angel to hell!!!! Buffy was going to have to send him to hell whether she knew before that Will was going to re-try the curse or not.....whether buffy knew or not she still would have to send him to hell to save the world!! So once again i say....xander isnt guilty... - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:00:31 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe <> I was all set to disagree with you, but come to think of it, you're right. Just compare Buffy's outfits in NKABOTFD to the ones in Passion. I like the change, actually. I don't know if "conservative" is the word for it but they definately changed her look. I think they were trying to go with a more mature look, raher than sticking with the trendy, more sexy style of the first season. I do have a problem with Buffy's wardrobe--she never wears the same thing twice! It's just not realistic that she would always have these (generally) expensive clothes that are worn and then forgotten about. It's not a socially aware statement to make. Young girls watch the show andd see how Buffy dresses and are influenced by what she wears. And most people can't afford her wrdrobe. That was one of the coolest things about MSCl--Angela dressed like a teenager. You could find most of the clothes she wore in thrift stores and you saw different pieces pop up in several episodes. I wish Buffy would take a lesson from them. . . Pandora - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 13:25:01 +0000 From: Jack Welsh Subject: BUFFY: SMG TV Guide Just to let everyone know... I still have 1 more SMG tv guide left because the person who wanted it doesn't anymore. If anyone is intrested let me know (OFF-LIST) - -- What about God? Where am I that I don't feel him anymore? Can a man go so far he doesn't feel the presence of his closest friend? What about God? -Crystal Lewis - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 12:11:21 -0500 From: Jennifer Bishop Subject: BUFFY: birthday flubs > This was probably discussed when the ep aired first season... > Did anyone else notice the screens where Buffy's record was > shown. First has a birthdate of 10/24/80(?) and listed her > as a sophmore. Second had a birthdate of 5/6/79 and listed > her as a senior(!). Both dates wrong now thanks to "Surprise". > ===I noticed that as well! That would make her nineteen years old, and about to turn twenty for the 5/6 one and the other almost eighteen. Hmmm. Who messed up on that?? Definite technical error. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 98 13:12:05 EDT From: (Charles Summers) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe Well, in the TV world characters rarely wear anything twice because we don't see them that often (22-28 shows) and the producers don't want to bore us. Also, I have noticed some serious wonderbra-ing of SMG in season 1 as compared to the more natural look of season 2. Season 1 had a lighter tone to it than the heavy drama of season 2, and I think SMG's wardrobe reflected that. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 12:27:07 -0500 From: Jennifer Bishop Subject: BUFFY: more seth appearances As well as doing Conan next wednesday, Seth will also be appearing on Politically Incorrect on Tuesday, the 14th, which shows at 11:30 Central time. Just a tidbit I found out while surfing... - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Ngan Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe About the theory of wonderbra -ing. I do agree with you on the fact that Sarah seemed more well -endowed during Season I. But I believe a thread was brought up when there was a huge outcry about how Sarah looked in WSWB during SEason II. list members were concerned about how skinny sarah was. It appears that when women lose weight, they lose it in the chest area. This may be the reason why she doesn't seem as "full" in SEason II. Perhaps, "conservative" in my last e-mail wasn't the right word. I think the producers wanted Buffy to be more mature. Because Season II really explored the Angel/Buffy relationship. David Ngan ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu dngan@lykos.netpart.com http://aznet.net/~buffylvr/index.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 10:26:44 PDT From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: BUFFY: Location of Sunnydale Ok, we know that Sunnydale is in Southern CA, but where exactly is it? We all have to consider what is the cut off between Southern/Northern CA (I think Cambray) and possibly Central CA. From Go Fish, we know it's by an ocean. From Innocence, we know it's by an Army Base. We really can't think inland b/c of Go Fish and the ending of it. And which county is Sunnydale located in LA, Ventura, Orange, SD County. There is an Army Reserve installation in Los Alamitos (OC), that's pretty close. I do realize that Sunnydale is mythical, but can't hurt to find out where this mythical place is. I would love your thoughts on this (esp. the Cali people). Ciao Ms. Gwyn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:37:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Robin Carroll Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah's Wardrobe On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 PandyGrrl@aol.com wrote: > I do have a problem with Buffy's wardrobe--she never wears the same thing > twice! It's just not realistic that she would always have these (generally) > expensive clothes that are worn and then forgotten about. I agree with you to a point, I don't think it is realistic that TV shows generally don't repeat clothing. On the other hand, with Buffy there is a possible explanation in that her clothing often gets destroyed by her encounters with the Undead and Friends. Maybe _because_ of this, she should wear the the unruined clothes more often. What I don't get is where she gets this never ending supply of expensive clothing without a paying part-time and without arousing her mother's suspicions. points to ponder :) Robin rncl@uhura.cc.rochester.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 12:49:21 -0500 From: Diane Schultz Subject: Re: BUFFY: IRYJ Comments VampGrl22@aol.com wrote:=20 > Technopagan? Now, is this a tern that the writers made up, or is it >= legitimate? It's a legitimate term, in fact there are a lot of Wiccans and other Paga= ns on the 'Net. - --=20 Diane Schultz dianes@texas.net owned by Wilma and Angel Buffy: =93The next impulsive decision I make will involve my choice of dentures.=94 - - ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jul 1998 11:27:13 -0700 From: lisag@ella.mills.edu Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel Chronicles I have asked my friend who works for the Angel Chronicles' publisher when more will be out. I will send info as soon as I get it. I know that future volumes will not be novelizations of episodes, I believe they will stand alone. As a side note, I thought it was funny that the first volume referred to Cordy as Cher-like!?! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 14:36:56 -0400 From: Ryan Harrington Subject: Re: BUFFY: That extra guy > That extra guy is Lance, he was also in Go Fish, Passion (I think). I Um no it isnt. His name is Jonathan, I thnk Lance was that guy the PAck ~Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:42:49 -0400 From: "Jeff Rohaly" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Angel Chronicles lisag@ella.mills.edu wrote: > As a side note, I thought it was funny that the first volume referred to Cordy > as Cher-like!?! I'm assuming they meant as in Cher, the lead character in Clueless. Although it would be priceless to see Cordy and Xander do a rendition of "I Got You Babe" at this year's talent show. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:44:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Hickerson Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy Video news/rumor from usenet > It sounds like they're following the X-Files video release model. Too > bad they're not releasing 6 tapes so we'd get the whole first season. > Hopefully it won't be too long a wait. X-Files vids are usually released about every six monthes or so. I am really suprised they didn't rush more out for the hype surrounding the big movie. Anyway, I think the three tapes with two ep on each tape every couple of months is a good idea. Helps keep them within the old budget. And it also insures better sales. I've noticed how much more often XF tapes end up in the top ten whereas Star Trek tapes, where they release them all every so often never crack the top ten. Just a question if anyone knows--XF does box sets. Will Buffy do the same? I hope so. :-) > Tape 1: Welcome to the Hellmouth / The Harvest Will it have the To Be Continued at the end of part one? I just wondered if would be the orignal 2-hour version of the one we saw a few weeks ago on WB.... > Tape 3: Angel / The Puppet show So, they're skipping Teacher's Pet. Rats. I will only need two first season eps on tape after the summer go aroudn adn I was really hoping to get it commerically, if I had to. Thanks for the info! Michael mhickers@usit.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Hickerson Subject: BUFFY: Review--I Robot, You Jane. Warning: If reading a review with major SPOILERS for "I Robot, You Jane" will cause you to unleash a demon, I suggest you turn back now. Major SPOILERS for this episode of Buffy are just ahead. In short: Good in spots. As many of you found out last week with my incredible misquote, I'm an X-Files fanatic. I adore that show. I adore Buffy too, but for entirely different reasons. And while the shows have from time to time crossed over a bit with a similarity of topics, I've always felt that both had their own takes on the types of stories they were telling or trying to tell. Which is why "I Robot, You Jane" was such an odd episode for me. I literally felt like I'd seen it done before on the X-Files. In fact, many of the basic elements of "I Robot, You Jane" seemed to be taken from three episodes of the X-Files. The possessed computer came out of "Ghost in the Machine" (if you're an X-Phile, you know that is not good company. Sort of like saying, "Well, that X-Files reminded me of Killed by Death."), "Kill Switch" and the screen telling people what to do reminded me of the classic episode, "Blood." Which may be part of the reason that I never really truly connected with this episode--the feeling of been there, done that, got the T-shirt. OK, I'll admit Mulder and Scully didn't end up taking on a robotic demon in the end of the episodes I referred to, but the similarities were so glaring that they really stood out and bothered me. Willow's role was rather substantial and while it was good, it wasn't quite break-out in the way Xander's was last week in "The Pack." I think part of it was that Xander's role last week allowed Nicholas Brendan to go a bit over the top and dealt with emtions played right at the surface. This week, Alyson Hannigan had to really underplay her role as Willow got deeper and deeper involved and manipulated by Malcolm. At times, her performance felt off--especially her confrontation with Buffy in the gym. But, at others, it felt right on. The biggest scene that really stands out is the whole, "Remember me! Your girlfriend!" as she beats on Mollock with a fire extinguisher. That really stuck out. The rest of the time, she seemed very out of character, which I suppose is the point. But it wasn't as convincing for me as Xander's transformation last week in "The Pack." Another part of the problem was some severe leaps of logic (or illogic) to get the plot going. I hate to say it, but as nitpicky as Giles is, it's hard to see him allowing a book to be scanned without first looking at it. Knowing what he knows about being the Watcher and the importance some of the texts have, it seems highly unlikely that he'd allow the book to be scanned without first looking to make sure there is no hard done. Of course, as Phil Farrand is fond of saying, if he did that, it's be an awfully short episode. Another major problem is trapping Molloch in the robot body. Did he plan for this? I honestly wondered at the end. And why did he make to attempt to stop Jenny and Giles performing the ritual? It's almost as if he wanted to be trapped in the robotic body. And if he was, does that mean he can escape again? Part of this may be that I've got way too much free time on my hands to sit around and think of this kind of stuff. But another is that in the second season, Buffy has been so good about answering these little questions that when they aren't answered it sticks out like a sore thumb to me. But all this isn't to say there weren't some nice moments that abounded in this episode. In fact, it was full of them. I liked the arguements Jenny and Giles had about computers vs. books, Xander's comment about books making him speak "good" was a hoot as was Buffy's pop culture reference comments. Also of note was how suspenseful the sequence when the boy killed himself was. The notepad writing his suicide note was effective and chilling, as was his reaction. I really liked that part because it had me on the edge of my seat. Also, Buffy's near death experience in the girl's locker room was nice--though her black eye seemed to come and go a lot during the final few scenes. All in all, I've got say that while I enjoyed "I Robot, You Jane," it wasn't the best Buffy I've ever seen. Nor was I expecting it to be, to be quite honest with you. For what it was--a stand alone episode with a monster, it did a fairly good job. But compared with some of the classics such as School Hard, Lie to Me, or the Becoming, it just didn't cut the mustard. But, who knows--I may watch it again and find something jumps out at me. It's happened before on Buffy and I expect it to happen again. So, I guess that's about it, except for a few small things... --OK, let me get this straight--The computer Willow's using has pretty good graphics, but yet Mollock is all pixily and blocky. Jeez, you'd think being an undead demon, you'd get some better resolution. :-) --Where was Willow's family? From what I gathered from the dialogue, she was spending a lot of time on-line. Did her family not want to use the phone or does she have her own line for Internet access? Of course, if they aren't ever home... --Where is Cordy? She's gone MIA.... --That is one heck of a network the school has for Mollock to travel around on. Must be an ISDN line for him to so easily get out on the Net is all I can figure. Well, that's about it for now. All in all, good in spots, weak in others. Not the worst I've seen, but not the best either. My rating: 6.0 (out of 10.0) Next up: No Tuesday epiosde this week, but next Monday it's the long anticipated repeat of "Angel." Set the VCR now... Copyright 1998 by Michael Hickerson. All Rights Reserved. "I can just tell something's wrong...my spider sense is tingling." "Spider sense?" "A pop culture reference..." --Buffy and Giles. - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #364 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. 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