From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #488 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, September 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 488 In this issue: BUFFY: opener Re: BUFFY: KEEPERS? BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne BUFFY: <> -- Didja notice?? Re: BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne BUFFY: Re: nitpick concerning Anne Re: BUFFY: Tonite's ep/New Opener/specs Re: BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! Re: BUFFY: opener BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne Watchers (was Re: BUFFY: opener ) BUFFY: National ratings for Becoming Part 2 Re: BUFFY: Tonite's ep/New Opener/specs BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! BUFFY: regarding possible future occurances BUFFY: Closing Credits Re: BUFFY: Tonite's ep/New Opener/specs Re: BUFFY: opener Re: BUFFY: I've seen it! BUFFY: Buffy TVS and you are? Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! BUFFY: RHS InJoke On Buffy? (Small Spoiler) BUFFY: Metro Comics Signing Update BUFFY: Tonight's Episode BUFFY: If you want a book cover! BUFFY: Re: Tonight's Episode Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! BUFFY: Season Premiere Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! BUFFY: Last night's episode See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:18:50 PDT From: "Duremdes BShaw22" Subject: BUFFY: opener SPOILER ABOUT THE SEASON OPENER I have a question about the city where Anne stayed. Is the city on a Hellmouth because of the presence of demons? I mean, I think all the previous eps shown so far were all centered in Sunnydale. Pretty weird to have demons in Diego (at least that's where I think it was). Overall the ep was cool, kind of lame in some parts, but the awesome fighting action made up for it. I think the school scenes were real boring though. Also when was the last time anyone saw the library filled with people? Alright, later y'all. Peace and be wild. DUREMDES Formerly known as ITWASALATENITE Keeper of Buffy's dead gigapet *We raise the roof like Andy Seigle* - ------------------------------------------- "What are you doing?? Make me yak!!"--Cordy http://www.angelfire.com/ca/deucetre - --------------------------------------------- TWO WORDS - - SUCK IT!! - --------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:28:49 +0000 From: Brenda Subject: Re: BUFFY: KEEPERS? > From: MsSarah19@aol.com > > Ok can someone send me a list of BTVS keeper sites???? THANKS!! try this site... http://www.concentric.net/~Creatv/keeper/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:44:15 -0500 From: dmw Subject: BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne OK, Ken says that one Earth day equals about 100 years in "hell" or whatever you want to call the world they went to. So even if Buffy was only there for 15 minutes (which is a low guestimate), wouldn't that have equaled at least one year of Earth time? dmw - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:42:12 -0400 From: Jen Subject: BUFFY: <> -- Didja notice?? Tiny Spoiler B U F F Y B U F F Y B U F F Y B U F F Y B U F F Y I think that's enough. Did anyone else notice that when Buffy goes to the "Family Home" or whatever that hellish place with the tar pit in the floor was called, that the stunt coordinator Jeff Pruitt was the guy who opened the door? At first I was thinking, Where do I know that guy from? And then it hit me. I'm POSITIVE that was him. Jen - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:06:45 GMT From: flagg@wwa.com (Flagg) Subject: Re: BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:44:15 -0500, you wrote: >OK, Ken says that one Earth day equals about 100 years in "hell" or >whatever you want to call the world they went to. So even if Buffy was = only >there for 15 minutes (which is a low guestimate), wouldn't that have >equaled at least one year of Earth time? No, you've got it reversed.... If she was there for just 15 minutes, then in actualy earth time it would have been like a fraction of a second... okay, if 1 earth day =3D 100 years there, then 15 minutes in this other world would equal about .0246 seconds of earth time passed.... :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:02:49 -0500 From: dmw Subject: BUFFY: Re: nitpick concerning Anne I wrote: >OK, Ken says that one Earth day equals about 100 years in "hell" or >whatever you want to call the world they went >to. So even if Buffy was >only there for 15 minutes (which is a low guestimate), wouldn't that have >equaled at >least one year of Earth time? As someone just pointed out to me in email, I have the second sentence totally backward. That is what I get for minimal sleep. David - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:51:40 EDT From: Iocaste@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tonite's ep/New Opener/specs In a message dated 98-09-29 23:46:46 EDT, you write: << << My main concern is *what* were Ken and Co. (sounds a Barbie franchise) doing? >> You know in like,really old jails, where the people used to hack at rocks for no reason but to be made to suffer?>> Actually, I kept expecting to see a Nike symbol displayed somewhere.... Ann iocaste@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:05:41 -0500 From: NiK Subject: Re: BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne >OK, Ken says that one Earth day equals about 100 years in "hell" or >whatever you want to call the world they went to. So even if Buffy was only >there for 15 minutes (which is a low guestimate), wouldn't that have >equaled at least one year of Earth time? Let's take the original measurement. 100 years Vs 1 Day. That's in Hell Time Vs Earth Time. So 15 Minutes In Hell would be a matter of seconds in Earth Time. So basically in a matter of a couple of seconds as everyone on Earth would have seen it, they had that whole 15 minute(?) adventure, because Hell time is much much faster than Earth Time. Hope this cleared it up for you. - -NiK panam@mail.execpc.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:10:03 -0500 From: wparris Subject: Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! I dont think it would have been a good idea to jump right back into the Angel/Buffy saga . I think we need a break from that for atleast one damn episode Jack Welsh wrote: > The problem with this episode is that it was written wrong. In my > opinion, the story should have had Buffy going to hell to search for > Angel. Once she realizes that she HAD to kill him, she could return > home. I just can't believe how bad this episode was. And my local WB > didn't show a preview for the next episode! What an awful night! > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:02:09 EDT From: MyHrt4Teri@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: opener << I have a question about the city where Anne stayed. Is the city on a Hellmouth because of the presence of demons? I mean, I think all the previous eps shown so far were all centered in Sunnydale. Pretty weird to have demons in Diego (at least that's where I think it was). >> I don't think that the city itself was on a hellmouth. Thats Sunnydale. Strange things happen in other places, they just tend to gravitate towards Sunnydale because of the Hellmouth. Ly - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:44:15 -0500 From: dmw Subject: BUFFY: nitpick concerning Anne OK, Ken says that one Earth day equals about 100 years in "hell" or whatever you want to call the world they went to. So even if Buffy was only there for 15 minutes (which is a low guestimate), wouldn't that have equaled at least one year of Earth time? dmw - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:38:33 -0700 From: Douglas Carey Subject: Watchers (was Re: BUFFY: opener ) > I don't think that the city itself was on a hellmouth. Thats >Sunnydale.Strange things happen in other places, they just tend to >gravitate towards Sunnydale because of the Hellmouth. Yeah, but I think Lili was a little bit right. Evil forces follow Buffy, or even just the Slayer in general. *shrugs* I base this on because Evil Forces were also in LA, in the BTVS movie. for a few days, after I started reading "Child of the Hunt" I've been thinking about it would be cool if they have a Watcher indepth ep. We don't really know about the Watchers. Now, if they want to keep the mystical aspect of that, that's cool, but we don't know anything about the Watchers really. As a show tie-in, I think it would be interesting if they somehow were related to the Watchers in Highlander:The Series. Jennifer Carey data@gte.net NBFC NBEB DBH - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:22:01 -0400 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: National ratings for Becoming Part 2 Last week's repeat of Becoming Part 2 got a national Nielsen rating for households of 2.7, putting it in a 91st place tie out of 122 prime time shows. Out of the 15 shows on The WB network last week, Buffy was tied for 3rd. The top rated WB program of the week was the season premiere of 7th Heaven. It received a 4.4, landing it in 85th place overall. Here are the national household ratings for the last several Tuesday repeats: September 15, Becoming Part 1: 2.6 September 8, pre-empted for Dawson's Creek September 1, Go Fish: 2.1 Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com http://www.iaw.on.ca/~rohaly/tvschedule/buffy.html (archive of Buffy's Nielsen ratings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: a mockingbird girl Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tonite's ep/New Opener/specs On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Ryan Harrington wrote: > The new opener is waaaaay cool. Aside from the fact that the episode that > followed sucked--wait I'm getting off on a ramble. Anyway I'm gonna spec on I hated the new theme song. Hated it. Couldn't stand it. I want Nerf Herder back. Very badly. I am motivated enough about this to go and try to organize a mass letter-writing campaign asking for it to be put back. The opener was alright. Too fast for me to see and I'm procrastinating from other things. There was hardly anything from the first season and just little things from the second. I do want to check it out just for potential hints of next season. The episode itself was enjoyable purely because it was new Buffy and Buffy got to whup serious ass for a very extended period of time. And she had good hair! That was happy! Did anyone think of Anne of Green Gables when Buffy referred to herself as Anne with those pigtails? I kept thinking "puffed sleeves". As for Kelli Martin/SMG references, I saw an episode of "Life Goes On" when Becca makes two dates for the same dance. And there's the date of her friend who looks awfully like a *very* young Seth Green. Am I hallucinating or did I really want Buffy? debbie - who's also pissed that they didn't show a preview for next week in favor of Dawson's Creek. dia@fidalgo.net for the mail, webpage, and other misc. complaints =) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:48:51 -0500 (CDT) From: John Hsieh Subject: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! I thought that the episode was a total disappointment. There was no explanation for the people who ruled "hell." Who were those people? Demons? Zombies? That was really cheesy the way they stuck this "hell" in there to give Buffy something to fight away from Sunnydale. However, I thought that the Sunnydale events were pretty decent. The next episode better be awesome to make up for this premiere... YUCK! - -john - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:51:47 EDT From: Vass99@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: regarding possible future occurances I don't know if its definate and It might be a spoiler so here goes I woke up this moring listening to Z100 (a radio station in new york). i always listen to their morning show and usually their info is all correct. So, they are talking about whats on tv tonight and they Mention buffy, and one of the guys goes "If you are a fan of Buffy: The Vampire Slayer, this will be the last season you'll see Sarah Michelle Gellar on it" So of course since I'm such a big fan of hers i like collapsed on my floor and was almost in tears. Okay but thats not even the wierdest part of this all. I go in to school and tell my friend that Sarah is leaving the show and she says to me that she heard that Sarah is going to be attending Villanova. I went to the source that she heard this from who happens to be my friend randi. And i asked her what was up, she said that she heard from her boyfriend who goes to villanova that Sarah will be going there. Now I give Sarah definate props, but I still feel terrible that she is leaving, the show won't be the same. Also, I thought that sarah had a 5 year contract to BTVS, not a 3 year. Well, thats all I know, has anyone else heard anything? Amy (who has now chosen the college she wished to attend) Can ya guess which one? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:52:19 EDT From: Jdela327@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Closing Credits are they gonna stop showing previews of next week's episode at the end now? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:00:29 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Tonite's ep/New Opener/specs At 9:49pm 9/29/98, a mockingbird girl wrote: >I hated the new theme song. Hated it. Couldn't stand it. I want Nerf >Herder back. Very badly. I am motivated enough about this to go and try to >organize a mass letter-writing campaign asking for it to be put back. I love the new theme song. It sounded pretty much the same to me, just vamped up a bit (no pun intended). The old one was getting so, well, old. I was sick of it. Katie Keeper of Buffy's Nail Polish, WIllow's leather mini, Cordelia's stakes, and the heart necklace Xander gave cordy on V-Day. Guardian of Spike's feelings of rejection from Angel & Angel's adoptive mother Keeper of Joey's bathing suit. "All you need is romance. And chapstick." - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:10:04 EDT From: Tracyrr74@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: opener In a message dated 9/29/98 10:53:10 PM Central Daylight Time, itwasalatenite@hotmail.com writes: << Also when was the last time anyone saw the library filled with people? >> I laughed about this with my husband. But here is my take on it. It was the first day of school. Remember from the first episode Cordelia told Buffy she could check out all the text books out in the library? Well I assume thats why it was so busy - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:38:13 -0700 From: "MrGiLeS" Subject: Re: BUFFY: I've seen it! > BuFFySMG7@aol.com said: >OK, you can share all you want, but i know that i am definitely not with you >and probably most of the people on this list arent either. Joss is one of if >not THE BEST writers of all time >just my $.02 I'd just like to point out that Joss is probably not one of the best writers of all time, the reason: have you seen his movies? Yikes! But I will admit that most of the time, this episode especially excluded, Joss is a brilliant writer, but he's not perfect as "Anne" so perfectly stated. MrGiLeS Keeper of Amy's onyx spell casting eyes. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:50:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "F.Y.G." Subject: BUFFY: Buffy TVS and you are? The best line the whole episode. The new intro is very good and much better than the last one In my Opinion. Those of you with low expectations for this episode...YOU AINT SEEN NOTHIN YET!! And for the intellectualites...the symbolism in the hell was interesting especially with Buffy's weapons...a hammer and a sickle? F.Y.G./missile http://members.xoom.com/fyg Founder and President of the Buffy Crew http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7427/ Delta Sigma Phi Sargent at Arms - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:18:31 EDT From: JessTear@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! In a message dated 9/29/98 9:52:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sjhsieh@midway.uchicago.edu writes: > I thought that the episode was a total disappointment. There was no > explanation for the people who ruled "hell." Who were those people? > Demons? Zombies? I think this had something to do with the fact that it's usually Giles and/or Willow who end up explaining what the monsters do, where they're from, etc. - - Jess - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:35:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: RHS InJoke On Buffy? (Small Spoiler) Hi all, That should be enough, I hope. Lily/Chantarelle was wearing a shirt with Denton and a Heart on it, and this is something related to Rocky Horror Show, which most of Tony's fans knows he starred in on stage Dr. Frank-n-Furter in the West End, London. Sonja Marie - President - Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) Official Anthony Head WebPage - http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/ Owner of the Anthony S. Head, Buffy-Beta Fic, Jeff Fahey & Paul Wylie Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:45:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Metro Comics Signing Update Got this info from the alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer: Giles & Willow- Nov 21st : Alyson Hannigan & Anthony Stewart Head !!! Metro Entertainment 6 West Anapamu Santa Barbara CA 93101 (805) 963-2168 metrocomix@aol.com METRO COMICS & GAMES 6 W. Anapamu Santa Barbara, CA 93101 USA 805-963-2168 Sonja Marie - President - Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) Official Anthony Head WebPage - http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/ Owner of the Anthony S. Head, Buffy-Beta Fic, Jeff Fahey & Paul Wylie Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:11:47 PDT From: "Mz. Gwyn" Subject: BUFFY: Tonight's Episode Well I can say that I love the opening shot, but the music needs to go back either to season 1 effects or season 2 effects. I don't like this jazzed up version, of course I don't like change all that much. I absolutely loved how cordy and xander were so unsure of there feelings for one another, and on the verge of breakup took a crisis to bring them back together. I loved how Xander wanted to use Cordy as BAIT and she AGREED, goes to show how they'll use any excuse to be together w/in the scooby gang, but not in school or being so nervous. Willow is the rock. Up is up with Joyce, I can understand her feelings in being replaced as an "authority" figure in Buffy's life, but the issues that she has, needs to be sorted out with Buffy, not Giles. I loved the fighting scene, and I agree w/ who ever said this earlier this year, but it's so obvious that it's the stunt double doing the fighting and not SMG, TPTB should do something about that, but oh well. I loved how lily finally took Buffy's advised and started caring for herself and others, instead of others taking care of her. As for some people who are angry that this didn't turn out to be the "Buffy & Angel" show, chill out, remember there are other main characters on the shows, on the list and several tv show interviews, it was stated that Angel was not going to be back immediately. There was a lot of questions unanswered in the season opener, but they will be taken care of through-out the season. Joss and Co. are to smart to have all the questions answered in one show period, there wouldn't be a season, nor a show. Remember this is a business, they give you just enough to keep us coming back for more. Grant, right now this is not going on my all time top 10 list, but a good all round episode that showcase all the main characters and spend a lot of time on the title character. I'm going to have to watch Anne a couple more times and let it digest to see were I want to put it, but as of right now on my Buffonia Scale 1 - 10: 7. By sunday I should have a new poll up and a review & synopsis of Anne. Ciao Ms. Gwyn http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Studio/8961 Official Keeper of numerous things, mostly xander stuff ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:58:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeani Arera Subject: BUFFY: If you want a book cover! Okay Buffy Fans, If anyone out there wants a book cover, I am more than happy to send you a book cover! But wait a little while because I have to decide whether or not to send them in an envolope folded or send them through a big yellow one and unfolded. So it might take meeh a little time! For all those who want book covers this is what to do! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Send this information to SMGDB@yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your Name: Address: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you live in the East Coast, it MIGHT, but I'm not to sure, take a little longer because I live in Southern CA. Kay Bye, Jeani == ********************************************************************* Buffy: Sorry Angel, changed the locks *Keeper of Willow's flat hair & Black Eye *Keeper of Xander's Luv of Ted's Chocolat Chip Cookies *Keeper of Cordy's Drugged Drink + History Book shared w/Buffy _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:28:27 -0700 From: Henry Nunes Subject: BUFFY: Re: Tonight's Episode Mz. Gwyn wrote: > I loved the fighting scene, and I agree w/ who ever said this earlier > this year, but it's so obvious that it's the stunt double doing the > fighting and not SMG, TPTB should do something about that, but oh > well. I think the differences between when SMG is doing the fight scenes and when her stunt double is doing them were made even worse in "Anne" because of the horrendous condition of SMG's hair after its torturous summer. Did you see the hair in the close ups? It was multi-colored! Brown, orange, yellow, oh my! There's no chance in Hellsmouth to get the doubles hair/wig near that color. So the use of the double became a little distracting as Buffy's hair went from a mess to perfectly blonde and back again. Still, great fight sequence. hwn. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:36:28 PDT From: "... ..." Subject: Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! >>> After a LONG summer of reruns I couldn't wait for a new episode. I knew, or thought, that it would be great. I was wrong. This took a whole summer to write? When I compare the episodes, Anne will go down with Killed By Death. <<< WHAT??? Not to be rude, but were we even watching the same episode... It was great... so the plotline was a little silly the rest of it was reall kick ass... >>> The problem with this episode is that it was written wrong. In my opinion, the story should have had Buffy going to hell to search for Angel. Once she realizes that she HAD to kill him, she could return home. I just can't believe how bad this episode was. <<< In my opinon she saw that what ses needed to do was get over what happened because people need her to save them from all the bad things... And whos to say that maybe she still won't seareach for Angel and see that she had to kill him... I think Joss wanted to stay away from the angel plotline for the premiere... >>> And my local WB didn't show a preview for the next episode! What an awful night!<<< My WB station didn't either does anybody have any Idea of why they didn't. Marat http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/6691/ - ------------------------------------------------- "I had everything within my reach I had money and stuff Each and every call Too much but never enough Tear it up and watch it fall" -The Sisters of Mercy - --------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:28:17 -0700 From: Jeff Weitkamp Subject: BUFFY: Season Premiere A couple of hours after watching last night's season premiere of Buffy I was thinking about the episode and it's main bad guy. Suddenly I got it. _OH MY GOD! BUFFY KILLED KENNY. THAT BASTARD_ When I realized that I laughed for five minutes. I don't think that was a coincidence. Do you? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:49:21 EDT From: Toph179@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: What a complete and total LETDOWN!!!!! When I compare the episodes, Anne will go down with Killed By Death. <<>> And my local WB didn't show a preview for the next episode! What an awful night!<<< >> I'm in Georgia and there was no preview for the next episode here either. Wonder if this is going to keep up? louise - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:43:18 -0400 From: "Allen J. Oh" Subject: BUFFY: Last night's episode I have to say, I was a little disappointed in last night's episode. It wasn't awful by any means; part of my disappointment probably had a lot to do with having VERY high expectations from last season's enders. Maybe my expectations were so high that "Anne" had to disappoint, no matter how good it was. I would've preferred to see Buffy's return to Sunnydale stretched out over another episode or two; I thought that aspect was resolved too quickly. And I would've preferred to see her, Lily, et al. spend more time in the other dimension and face more of a challenge in getting out. Some things I liked about the episode...the ending was very touching (though it should've been next week's ending). The choreography of the last fight scene with Buffy was excellent, and also showcased SMG's skills well. One of my favorite scenes from the episode, though, was when Xander was fighting the vampire and Cordelia impaled it on Xander's stake, causing them to literally fall into each other's arms after the vampire was dispelled. The accompanying music was genius for its sheer cheese value! Allen - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #488 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. 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