From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #518 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Tuesday, October 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 518 In this issue: BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules BUFFY: BtVS in mainstream Re: BUFFY: Moving on BUFFY: Scheduling Note BUFFY: BtVS in mainstream BUFFY: jeopardy question BUFFY: jeopardy question BUFFY: A question Re: BUFFY: Short and Late observations on DMP BUFFY: National ratings for DMP BUFFY: Website Update - New Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! BUFFY: GASP! & Quotes Updated & Wanna Join the GASP! (Giles' Keepers) BUFFY: one comment on s3e2 BUFFY: Ooh..Angel! BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Mr Trick BUFFY: "Faith, Hope & Trick" BUFFY: missed part- SP BUFFY: The "a**" episode BUFFY: FHT BUFFY: Faith,Hope, And Trick Re: BUFFY: "Faith, Hope & Trick" Re: BUFFY: missed part- SP Re: BUFFY: Previews Are Back Re: BUFFY: missed part- SP BUFFY: FH&T--Buffy Finds the Fun See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:09:07 From: sah Subject: BUFFY: ADMIN: List rules It's Tuesday. Time for a new buffy! But what's even more exciting is the WEEKLY REPOSTING OF THE LIST RULES! Woo hoo, I know you all can't wait to read them, so here they are. ***** Welcome! This list is for discussion of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer," both the TV series and the movie. The address to post messages to the list is BUFFY@LISTS.XMISSION.COM. Please SAVE this message-- it contains information on how to uns*bscribe from the list or to change s*bscription options. The buffy FAQ can be found at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/buffyfaq.html. Please check it out ASAP--Cagey has done a wonderful job with it and itwill answer a bunch of your questions about the show and fandom. PLEASE READ THE FAQ before posting questions to the list--manycommon questions are covered there. Because we want this list to be a great place to talk about "Buffy," we are setting up a few ground rules. If you've ever been involved in a discussion list, many of these rules will look familiar. Hopefully, they'll make list life more interesting (and more fun) for everyone. Please note: we enforce these rules. This is an extremely high- volume list, and we want to make sure that the volume is relevant to the show. 1. Keep posts on topic. Topics should be related to Buffy the series, Buffy the movie, the actors involved in either project, etc.. 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I recognize him from VR5.< If you want to ansewr this person's questions about where to write, there's no need to include the extra stuff, so your response should look like this: >Does >anyone know how to write to the stars of the show, or where to write >to show our support? You can even clean it up further and put it onto two lines, but you get the picture. Only include the relevant stuff in your response, so that people get what you're talking about. Penalties: First offense: Offlist warning (clearly marked WARNING: Overquoting). Second offense: Removal from the list for one week. 9. Please limit your .sig to 6 lines maximum, but do include your name and email address at the bottom of each post so someone can respond to you privately if they want to. Penalties for not following this rule are the same as for #8. 10. Do NOT post personal information, or requests for personal information, about the cast, crew, etc. of "Buffy" to this list. 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If you have s*bscription problems or questions, the fastest way to get h*lp is to e-mail one of us at the addresses below, at the kirby@xmission.com addy which is the "official" e-mail owner of the list. Jill (jtkirby@mcs.com) sah (romana@mindspring.com) Listowners & Lisa Rose (cybrpaws@wco.com) Assistant Listowner Buffy the Vampire Slayer Discussion List buffy@lists.xmission.com - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:01:56 EDT From: tomwmac@juno.com (Thomas W MacCarrol) Subject: BUFFY: BtVS in mainstream Hi. One of the answers in last night's (mon 10/12) Jeopardy was "Willow", but my mom was so busy freaking out next to me that I spaced on the question. Could anybody who WAS paying attention please e-mail me off-list? Tom Mac Carrol tomwmac@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:43:05 -0400 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: Moving on At 09:50 1998-10-13 -0400, Genevieve Faulkner wrote: >One thing....remember 90210, those people are inseparable, no matter how >unrealistic. I guess, but I just expect more from Buffy. Even on Party of Five, they've broken people up and sent them off to different schools or jobs. Anyway, given the level of dislike people seem to have of Xander, I'm thinking some might like to see what *he* looks like in one of those "Hot Dog on a Stick" uniforms. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:14:31 -0400 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: Scheduling Note Next week's episode (Tue. Oct. 20 for the US, Mon. Oct. 19 for some in Canada) is "Beauty and the Beasts". The following week (Tue. Oct. 27 for the US, Mon. Oct 26 for some in Canada) is then a timely repeat of "Halloween". Following that we're already into November sweeps -- they run from Oct. 29 through Nov. 25 -- and so I would presume, but don't know for sure, that we're back to new episodes after Halloween. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com (Source: Click TV online listings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:21:28 -0400 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: BUFFY: BtVS in mainstream > Hi. One of the answers in last night's (mon 10/12) Jeopardy was >"Willow", but my mom was so busy freaking out next to me that I spaced on >the question. Could anybody who WAS paying attention please e-mail me >off-list? Don't go off list!! Now we all want to know!!! I'm a Buffaholic I'm Spike's slave--forever Cordelia: Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass. (KBD) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 98 16:28:08 EDT From: (Charles Summers) Subject: BUFFY: jeopardy question I heard from the PB at the official site the question was: "Who is BtVS's best friend played by Alyson Hannigan?" No one even attempted to answer. Chas - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:49:17 -0400 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: BUFFY: jeopardy question >"Who is BtVS's best friend played by Alyson Hannigan?" > What was the category? I'm a Buffaholic I'm Spike's slave--forever Cordelia: Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass. (KBD) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:52:29 EDT From: Dawson9227@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: A question Does garlic work on buffy like the vamps? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:35:41 -0500 From: Peter Martin Subject: Re: BUFFY: Short and Late observations on DMP On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, you wrote: >>>Maybe this is old news, but DMP was the first time I noticed nail >>>polish on Oz. It's very clear in the scene where he's playing with >>>the cat, if any of you really want to see it. That was some noisy >>>cat, btw. In the becomming part 2 his nails were coloured when he went into the hospital to see willow. - -Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:43:40 -0400 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: BUFFY: National ratings for DMP Last week's episode, Dead Man's Party, got a national Nielsen rating for households of 4.3, putting it in 85th place out of 126 prime time shows. Out of the 15 shows on The WB network last week, Buffy was 4th. The top-rated WB programs of the week were Charmed, Dawson's Creek and 7th Heaven. All 3 of them received a 5.2, landing them in a 78th place tie overall. Here are the national household ratings for the last several episodes: September 29, Anne: 4.7 September 22, Becoming Part 2 (repeat): 2.7 September 15, Becoming Part 1 (repeat): 2.6 Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com http://www.iaw.on.ca/~rohaly/tvschedule/buffy.html (archive of Buffy's Nielsen ratings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Website Update - New Links, Mailing Lists, ASHFC, GASP! Halo! This is my usual Buffy Night Post - HAPPY BUFFY SEASON PREMIERE: This message contains info on Sonja Marie's Buffy Links Page, ASH/Giles Mailing list, The ASHFC, GASPers, and the Buffy Beta Fanfic List. ***** Sonja Marie's Buffy the Vampire Slayer Links I have added 22 more URLS to my Buffy Links Page at it's NEW location: http://www.planetx.com/~sonja/btvsurls/btvsurls.html If you have a link for me at your site, please change it, and your bookmarks as well! There are now 1715 pages listed! And if you are so inclined, PLEASE sign my guestbook! If you have a page for the show or cast members and IT IS NOT LISTED already, please send me the URLS and I will add them. ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Mailing List Are you a fan of Anthony Stewart Head? Giles? Oliver from VR5? Then the Anthony Stewart Head List is for you! We talk about all his work, share fanfic stories related to Giles and Oliver, etc. To join: 1. Send an email to ash-gasp-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP or S*BSCRIBE ASH-GASP-DIGEST ***** The Anthony Stewart Head Fan Club (ASHFC) If you are interested in joining Anthony's Official Fan Club check out the Official Fan Club Page at: http://worstwitch.simplenet.com/ASHFC/ashfc.html ***** Wanna Join the Giles' Appreciation Society Panters? Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head? Then the GASPers is the group for you! We are a group of fans who share a common interest namely Giles/ASH, we are also the official Keepers of Giles' Stuff. Check out our Home Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html (PS - there is a picture of me and Anthony on the front page :D). IMPORTANT NOTE: Only those who email me about becoming GASPers and follow the directions I send them will be considered real Keepers in my eyes. To join email me PRIVATELY at gaspers@eskimo.com and I'll send you the info on how to join. DO NOT: request anything from the episodes, I will sent you a list of stuff to keep. ***** The Buffy Beta Fan Fic List Want a place to post you unfinished work so other can read it and help you get it ready for others to read? Then this is the place for you! This is a place where you can get your work critiqued, etc. We will except all Buffy and related stories and VR5 related stories (IF Oliver Sampson is the main character). To join: 1. send a email to buffy-beta-request@eskimo.com or gaspers@eskimo.com 2. in the message put S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA or S*BSCRIBE BUFFY-BETA-DIGEST Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: GASP! & Quotes Updated & Wanna Join the GASP! (Giles' Keepers) Hi all, Are you a fan of Giles? Anthony Stewart Head (Giles, Oliver from VR5, the coffee guy, etc)? Then GASP is for you! GASP is the Official online fan club for Anthony, sanctioned by him, and we are the Official keepers of Giles' stuff. (Accpet no imitators, or fake keeper sites!). Visit our NEW & IMPROVED home page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/gaspers.html And email me PRIVATELY preferably at gaspers@eskimo.com. DO NOT: Ask for something to keep in your email. You will get a list of items left to keep, and can choose from there. DO: Email me privately if you want to join, preferably at gaspers@eskimo.com I've also added Giles' Quote for "Dead Man's Party" to the Quotes Page at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7728/quotes.html ENJOY! Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey, Paul Wylie, Anthony S. Head, & Buffy-Beta Lists Pres. of Giles' Appreciation Society Panters - GASP!- Keeper of Coats & Ties Anthony Stewart Head (Giles-BTVS) About What Fans Sent Him in the Mail: "Fair amount of lingerie, yeah, all of which I tried, none of which fitted" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:37:39 -0700 From: OMS Subject: BUFFY: one comment on s3e2 i'll attache SP just incase * * * * * * * * * * * * I "hate" faith so far, what a . ok, so the eps not over, but gimme a break torchers buffy, takes her friends, insults her, geezzzz.. oh yea, did I mention the whole reason the new vamps in town are there because of this faith . i'll shuddup now. oms - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:01:37 EDT From: MsSarah19@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Ooh..Angel! Oh wow! Was it just me, or did EVERYONE have a nice shot of Angel's hindquarters?! Hehe..I thought that the ep was very good..I didn't like the really big vamp, tho! Sarah Keeper of Xanders amazement of acrobatics and Xanders something else i forget! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:09:38 -0400 From: "B + C White" Subject: BUFFY: Faith, Hope, and Mr Trick If you didn't see tonight's episode, do not read on! I love MR TRICK! He rules! I must say I found Faith somewhat annoying at first, but I felt sympathetic toward her by the end. But I do not want to see her on every episode. The whole two slayer thing still bothers me. Do you think they will actually find her a new watcher and then she will leave? Xander really has a thing for slayers! Seeing Angel nude was quite awesome. I always thought he had the best clothes, but nude is alright too. . . . Celia bwhite1@tampabay.rr.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:07:54 -0500 From: Karen Matranga Subject: BUFFY: "Faith, Hope & Trick" In my opinion, Faith has to go! She's very uninteresting. I also think the show's crowded enough. Joss needs to focus on the cast he has. What's with Xander liking every girl on the show? This is getting ridiculous! Scott's okay. He might grow on me. I thought it was too much of a coincidence that he gave Buffy a Claddagh Ring. Why would he give it to her without even going out with her? In closing, the new villains are cool. Karen - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:09:08 EDT From: Bjorkgirl8@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: missed part- SP SPOILERS ;;;; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;; ; ;; ; ;; ; ; ;Call me dumb, but what was Giles talking about when he said towards the end "the spell won't work?" Because he never had one? because Angel had turned good when Buffy "killed" him? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:10:43 -0500 From: "Ryan Reid" Subject: BUFFY: The "a**" episode Hey everyone!! This episode was ***GREAT*** i was totally enthralled the whole time, plus i loved how faith's personality unfolded throughout the episdoe!!! i mean, i was HEAD OVER HEELS for the girl when we first saw her in the bronze, etc... but then as the episode went on, i really got pissed and began to dislike her... now, i don't know what to think but i'm willing to give her a second try. Also, i think this episode should be dubbed the "ass" episode... i mean, they said it like a BILLION TIMES throughout the ep, plus to top it all of, at the end, there is angel's butt staring us all in the face! LMAO!! and THANK GOD the PREVIEWS HAVE RETURNED!!! Angel is back... Ryan Keeper of: Cordelia's *yellow backless dress* (Becoming II). Opening Credits for Season 3. Joyce's glass she threw in fight with Buffy (Becoming II) Buffy's acceptance that she "sucks at undercover" (Anne) Buffy's look to Willow when they find out they are playing dodgeball (The Pack) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:52:01 -0500 From: Peter Martin Subject: BUFFY: FHT Oh my..... I don't know about everyone but I totally enjoyed that episode. It answered a couple of the questions I've been reading this week, and it had some added stuff. I had hoped Angel would come on later in the season, but I still thought that was neat. I just loved it. I can't really comment yet, because I have to watch it a few more times to really understand what they are saying, but I think faith, hope, and mr trick will be great characters. Anyway, Im going to go watch fht, again. - -Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:13:56 EDT From: Jdela327@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Faith,Hope, And Trick well i just finished watching the episode and it was da bomb!!!! did anyone else see the little clip of angel that says "ANGEL...IS....BACK"!!!! i was like omygod!!!!! i really agreed with cordelia on faith's slutty appearance but she was hella fine!!!! and as for buffy i bet we're all glad she's back to school right!??!? ok that's all i can't wait for next week's episode!! visit my site at :http://members.aol.com/VamPsL4yer/index30.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:23:29 EDT From: CrzyBluSk8@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: "Faith, Hope & Trick" In a message dated 98-10-13 21:19:13 EDT, kmm@flash.net writes: << Why would he give it to her without even going out with her? >> He thought it was a friendship ring. I was like thinkin 'Dude, I know it's gonna be a claddagh ring' I also like Mr. Trick. He's very cool, modern, and laid-back. Seeing angel naked, ooooooo :P.........O. I hated faith at first, but as long as she doesn't insult Buffy anymore, I'm cool with her, or as she would say "5/5". Stay Peachy, Summer - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:41:53 -0700 From: kenneth fox Subject: Re: BUFFY: missed part- SP > ;Call me dumb, but what was Giles talking about when he said towards the end > "the spell won't work?" Because he never had one? because Angel had turned > good when Buffy "killed" him? > > - - -- Giles meant that the only reason he had brought up the Acathla thing was so Buffy would get out what had really happenend and move on. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:36:20 -0500 From: deathsfury@juno.com (Jesse Blackstone) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Previews Are Back I had a bet with myself after I saw a generic new season of Buffy Preview on MTV (the first one I have seen on any channel this new season), that it was a sign of WB giving up on Felicity and giving Buffy the respect it is due. The proof would be if tonight's broadcast included the long missed Next Week's preview, so bemoaned by us all. The verdict was in. As everyone saw we got our previews back. Long hail the Preview. Just a thought. Cheers. Jessica B. P.S. I truly a-d-m-i-r-e-d Angel's return. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:36:29 -0700 From: Lisa_Heath@rossinc.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: missed part- SP > ;Call me dumb, but what was Giles talking about when he said towards the end > "the spell won't work?" Because he never had one? because Angel had turned > good when Buffy "killed" him? > > - - -- I think that Giles said something like "There was not a spell" or something like that. As a previous person, (Forgive me I erased the name), said, it was ploy to get Buffy to explain everything that had happened "that night:. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:41:44 EDT From: Alverdine@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: FH&T--Buffy Finds the Fun So just as Buffy is starting to move on Angel comes back, eh? And it's sort of her doing cuz with the whole ring thing (I'm assuming that's what brought him back). . Poor Buffster. Who am I kidding? I'm thrilled! Angel is back! Angel is back (you should see the dance I've been doing since it went off--on second thought! you shouldn't)! Faith was interesting--for about five minutes. Now I'm just hoping she goes off with Mr. Zabuto or wherever it was that Kendra went and stays there until her death is needed for a climatic two-parter. . . I didn't like Kendra either and I think it's because the whole two slayer thing has bored me from minute one. It was an interesting contrast however: Buffy was the "reckless" one when compared to by-the-book-slayer Kendra but when compared to Faith, Buffy is cautious. One question if this Kissing Toast (Kokistos) guy was so old he was cloven why didn't he leave behind bones like the Master? And Trick did call him "the Master". Probably because his bones weren't needed for a plot device. . . By the way I liked Trick, especially his whole throwing Kokistos to the lions, or in this case, the slayers, routine. I still miss Spike though. Gold star for Willow this ep. Her reluctance to leave school grounds and fear for her untarnished record were classic Willow but her pushiness--both for "B" to start her life again and for Giles to let her help with the nonexistant spell (nice move Giles, btw)--was evidence of the emerging, stronger Willow. S P E C U L A T I O N A little specualtion here--does anybody think Faith will be joining Angel on his new series come next Fall? 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