From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #568 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Thursday, November 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 568 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: new brunswick? Re: BUFFY: Giles' Jr.? Re: BUFFY:next weeks ep. Re: BUFFY: Giles' Jr.? BUFFY: jonathan BUFFY: David in Dallas? BUFFY: Buffy Movie clips on the internet Re: BUFFY: Cast sharing BUFFY: Philcon and Vampyre Lite Re: BUFFY: Bashing anyone who's not Angel BUFFY: Aly in US BUFFY: article Re: BUFFY:next weeks ep. BUFFY: Re: misleading previews Re: BUFFY: SPOILER - Next Two Ep's Re: BUFFY: Sarah likes Dawson's Creek! BUFFY: Cordelia vs Willow (was: Band Candy) BUFFY: TV Hits - December 1998 BUFFY: spoiler question Re: BUFFY: Review--"Band Candy" **SPOILERS!!** Re: BUFFY: spoiler question Re: BUFFY: Cordelia vs Willow (was: Band Candy) BUFFY: Meow! BUFFY: RE: new brunswick? [spoiler] BUFFY: Re: Cordelia vs Willow (was: Band Candy) BUFFY: Meow! Re: BUFFY:next weeks ep. BUFFY: Graphic for Buffy Website Re: BUFFY: Bashing anyone who's not Angel See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:30:40 -0500 From: "Brian J. Zino" Subject: Re: BUFFY: new brunswick? At 08:44 PM 11/11/98 -0800, you wrote: >"...the size of new brunswick?" >is this a reference to an american new brunswick or is buffy actually >refering to an eastern canadian province when she points out to her >mother the extent of the damage done to the jeep? I'm thinking the Canadian province, 'cause the only New Brunswick I'm aware of here in the U.S. is the one here in New Jersey, and I don't think Buffy would be invoking that one... B.Z. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:30:00 EST From: CrzyBluSk8@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles' Jr.? In a message dated 98-11-11 02:28:16 EST, fun-ee@juno.com writes: << Still, I'm thinking while they may later reveal that Giles and Joyce were sexually intimate, no way would they allow Joyce to give birth to an illegitimate baby fathered by Buffy's Watcher, but it is something that boggles the mind, isn't it? >> Well, I don't know. As soap-operaie as the show is getting, I wouldn't be surprised. I can see the headlines now "Giles father of illegit baby, Has the ripper returned?" Gasp!!!! The horror!!! Summer - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:39:27 EST From: CrzyBluSk8@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY:next weeks ep. S P O I L E R S P A C E * * * * * There that's enough, since this was in the preview and I'm not sure and don't wanna get into trouble with the list mommies, I put Spoiler Space there. Ok this is a really useless and frivolous thing to say, but in the preview when they showed faith about to stake angel, was anyone reminded of Kendra? Summer - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:50:39 EST From: fun-ee@juno.com (fun ee) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles' Jr.? On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:30:00 EST CrzyBluSk8@aol.com writes: >Well, I don't know. As soap-operaie as the show is getting, I wouldn't be >surprised. I can see the headlines now "Giles father of illegit baby, >Has the >ripper returned?" Well, I guess it could happen. You're right about the show getting soap-operish. It's becoming Dawson's Creek on the Hellmouth...here we go again with Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer being compared and here comes Widdle Jen after me. Gotta run and hide somewhere, fast! funee (: ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:33:18 -0800 From: Farnaz Ayrom Subject: BUFFY: jonathan Ya know, like Jonathan. I doubt he'd ever >be a permanent character either, though it's not *completely* inconcievable, >esp. when you considering everything's headed by Joss The Great Big Whack Job. > Actually, the actor who plays Jonathan has been offered regular status, but as a guest star you get paid more, so he's holding out for that. (Jonathan: Friend of a friend). jewels - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:15:52 EST From: TknoPagan@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: David in Dallas? Did I see a post that said David was goign to be in Dallas? i think I wrongfully deleted it, or the comp is just playing tricks on me at this time of the early morn. Jason TknoPagan@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:04:23 PST From: "Sarah Mac" Subject: BUFFY: Buffy Movie clips on the internet Does anyone know of any sites that have movie/video clips of Buffy? Like parts of episodes or commercials. Thanks, Sarah ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 04:56:46 EST From: WiddleOne@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cast sharing In a message dated 98-11-11 21:01:24 EST, you write: > I think Buffy gives there old cast members to Dawson's Creek. First that guy > who was the leader in "The Pack" and now Ford (on next week). Not to mention Jesse. He played the football player who told everyone he and Joey had sex. Jen - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:41:45 -0500 From: June Williams Subject: BUFFY: Philcon and Vampyre Lite I'll be attending PHILCON this weekend as a dealer(that can be a very loney job) So if you're in the area let's try to get together!! Please contact me off-list ASAP. Oh and I'll have Buffy merchandise at my table. Ad Astra, June.. P.S. PHILCON is being held at the Adams Mark Hotel in North Philadelphia, but I'm registered next door at the Holiday Inn. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:45:45 EST From: RayneFire@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Bashing anyone who's not Angel farnaz@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: > Let's review why Angel fans hate Xander. I must be really odd. From the posts I've read, it seems that if you dislike Xander (I can't quite get myself to hate him...because I used to love him)...you must be an Angel lover. And if you dislike Angel, you must be a Xander lover. Well, I'm neither. I dislike them both! However, to me, Angel is much more tolerable (lately) than Xander. That's probably because Angel hasn't been given the screen time that Xander has. And believe it or not, there are other reasons *besides* the lie to dislike Xander!! My main three problems with him are: 1. When he's making a point to Buffy, he does it in the meanest, most hurtful way that he can. There are 3 times that I've wanted to just slap him for the way he spoke to Buffy. First, in Passion after Jenny was killed...with his whole "I was right and you were wrong" speech. That was not the right place, time or tone. Buffy already felt like dirt, and he just had to make her feel lower. Second, during Becoming when he accused her of wanting to cure Angel just to get her boyfriend back. He may have had a valid point (which I don't totally agree with...she wanted to give him his soul back in part to save the world)...but again, the *way* he made his point was cruel to Buffy. Third, Dead Man's Party. I can't even talk about him in that scene without clenching my fists...so typing would be impossible. ;) Bottom line, I don't hold it against him that he has different opinions, but I do hold it against him the way he gets his opinions across. (I want my old lovable Xander back!!!) 2. He's a hypocrite. Sure, it's fine for him to try to rape Buffy and attack people (with the intent to eat them) when he's possessed by a hyena. And sure, it's fine for Oz to kill people when he's in his wolfy-state (remember, Xander defended him when they thought he's killed that boy in B&tB). But it's not okay for Angel to kill people when he's not himself. I just think that Xander would be a little more understanding. 3. He's selfish. Love spell. Hurting Willow by sneaking around with Cordelia. Lusting after other women (Faith) in front on Cordelia. The list could go on and on. The main reason I don't want Willow and Xander together is because I believe that he will eventually hurt her. He's the poster child for never being satisfied with what he's got. Now, I've heard all the pro-Xander arguments...about how he's risked his life for Buffy several times. And you could probably pick all my arguments apart one by one. But that won't change how I feel. Xander used to be a great friend to Buffy...but I really think the root of all his problems is jealousy. He's jealous of Angel. The really sad part is....I don't want to hate Xander. He used to be my second favorite character (behind Buffy)...but now he's so far down that list! I think if anyone has "issues", it's Xander. I want my old lovable Xander back! (Sorry if it sounds like I'm whining, but I am!) Now, in case you're wondering...since I mentioned earlier that I'm not an Angel or a Xander fan...who do I love? Why, Oz and Giles of course! Those two are becoming nearer and dearer to my heart each and every episode! And it's killing me that Oz is going to get hurt. :-( All right, enough babble from me. Can't wait for next weeks ep (though part of me is dreading it because Xander might sink lower on my list...I'm afraid he may fall off the edge of the paper!!) - -Rayne - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:01:41 -0400 From: Donna Brown Subject: BUFFY: Aly in US Thought the Willow archivists would be interested in this offbeat "beauty tip" from Alyson in the new (December/Michelle Pfeiffer on cover) issue of US magazine: in a small (half-page) section about beauty emergency advice from celebs, she recommends rubbing a sheet of Bounce fabric softener on your head before boarding a plane to avoid static electricity (as Dave Barry would say, I'm not making this up). They don't have a picture of her with it, but there is one of a box of Bounce! Can't recall the page number (I was reading it on the fly in the drugstore line) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:45:21 -0500 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: BUFFY: article You guys are going to love this. It is an article about Joyce and Giles. Giles is on the cover! You can even give you opinion. http://www.gist.com/ I'm a Buffaholic I'm a Cordy Girl, "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass."(KBD)-- My new motto to live by. Love ya, Cordelia! I'm Spike's slave--and proud of it! - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:19:12 PST From: "Kevin Taylor" Subject: Re: BUFFY:next weeks ep. > >S >P >O >I >L >E >R >S >P >A >C >E >* >* >* >* >* >Ok this is a really useless and frivolous thing to say, but in the >preview when they showed faith about to stake angel, was anyone >reminded of Kendra? > Yeah, it looked a lot like Kendra. But here's the other thing I saw in a preview for the episode last night while watching Charmed last night. In the preview, it looked like Willow was with them at the mansion while Xander and Faith were fighting Angel. It even seemed that she was helping. The written previews I've read say that the gang is angry, implying everyone. So far, most people have only been harping on Faith and Xander (myself included). Has anyone else seen this preview, or am I just hallucinating again. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 98 08:58:00 CST From: Mickie Erickson Subject: BUFFY: Re: misleading previews They might not be misleading in the general, but they sure can be in the specific. With Band Candy, I sure thought that Giles was chasing Buffy (instead of mearly running along with her) and it looked like something was going on between Snyder and Joyce (turned out to be absolutely nothing) Mickie > But when have the Buffy previews been misleading? I know for some > shows they are (DC comes to mind), but Buffy's have always seemed to be pretty > on. > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:56:05 EST From: TheBigG379@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: SPOILER - Next Two Ep's i tthink buffy should totally ditch xander and geekyness. buffy should realize that xander only is doing this because he still has the hots for buffy. really, when did xander ever prove that he some what cared about miss calender? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:51:10 EST From: TheBigG379@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Sarah likes Dawson's Creek! i like dawsons creek too. maybe not as much as buffy but the episodes are pretty cool, i think it is like some kind of teen soap oparh - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:45:52 EST From: fun-ee@juno.com (fun ee) Subject: BUFFY: Cordelia vs Willow (was: Band Candy) TedJMill@mindspring.com wrote >For Cordelia, how much will be heart-crushing-ness, and how much >will be outrage that WILLOW could take a guy away from her? I've been thinking why I feel so sorry for Cordelia now that we all know Xander and Willow are fooling around behind her back. Someone mentioned that it is particularly sad because Xander represented a major breakthrough for Cordelia who up until that time was a snobby, selfish, mean-spirited witch who did only what the 'in' crowd did and wouldn't be caught dead being seen with Xander and his friends who she considered losers. So, it appeared that love for Xander improved her personality. Although when you think about this new Cordelia she still is a snobby, selfish, mean-spirited witch but she's a little bit better. Still, what is going to happen when Cordelia finds out that Willow has stolen her boyfriend away from her right under her nose? I think it's going to be EXPLOSIVE! You all remember how Cordelia dared to put her hand on Buffy and push her out of the way in Homecoming and how angry she got when Buffy called her a 'vapid whore'? Well, I'm thinking if Cordelia gets that angry about a threat to her Homecoming Queen chances, she will just go ballistic when she confronts Willow. Can Willow defend herself? We haven't seen Willow and Cordelia confront each other because that one and only confrontation was edited out of what finally aired in an earlier episode. Remember? So, we're treading new territory here. I'm thinking Cordelia might go so far as to physically intimidate Willow and I'm thinking Willow's new found self-esteem, leadership, etc. will come into play and we just may see her stand up to Cordelia physically. I'm wondering if they will do the Cordelia/Willow confrontation humorously. Will it be in a mud pit? Will it be in front of their friends? Will Buffy or Xander or Oz interfere? Will they be caught and punished by Principal Snyder? The name-calling between the two of them should be interesting. And who will win the confrontation? I'm assuming Willow will hold onto Xander. As far as the physical confrontation -- if there is one -- everyone just might be surprised to see Willow win. In any case, I will be sorely disappointed if there isn't a big giant catfight! funee ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:32:16 +0800 From: The Rowcrofts Subject: BUFFY: TV Hits - December 1998 OK if you haven't picked up TV Hits yet (the one with I Still Know cast on the cover) it has a little of Buffy. There's a Sarah poster and and Angel poster with a mini-interview. It came out today (11/11/98) and costs A$4. There's ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:25:35 EST From: TheBigG379@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: spoiler question s p o i l e r s p a c e s i have a question if any one knows about the buffy angel kiss they showed in the preview, was that this season to be in the next ep or was that an old view of them kissing? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:28:29 -0500 From: Jeff Rohaly Subject: Re: BUFFY: Review--"Band Candy" **SPOILERS!!** At 14:19 1998-11-11 -0500, Michael Hickerson wrote: > On the other hand, you've got two far more three dimensional >characters in Joyce and Giles and so to see them play against type as one >dimensional characters wasn't as much fun. But I think that was how things were supposed to be. The candy wasn't meant to turn the adults into complete, well-rounded teenagers; it was meant to turn them into one-dimensional teenagers where the one dimension was the carefree, party aspect of adolescence. That way they wouldn't notice the babies being taken and more importantly, would blame themselves for the loss after the fact. So just taking it at that face value, I enjoyed what Giles and Joyce were like. Maybe I'm misreading and you have more of a meta-criticism. Are you saying that a more enjoyable episode would be one in which we actually get to see what Giles and Joyce were really like as teenagers? I agree that would be interesting, but that wasn't really the intention here. At least I don't think it was. > As for seeing Ethan come back, I'm torn. Yeah, his part in all of this could have been played by anyone. It's nice to see that we have a universe of characters and villains upon which to draw, but when they do bring someone like this back I think it should be in a more meaningful way. Amy's return was a good example. >I know that the mayor and Trick disussed the plan in his office early on, >but someone the idea they were hatching didn't seem as insidious as it >later turned out to be in that moment. I don't know what this says about me, but I had the exact opposite reaction. I didn't think the plan was insidious enough. Someone else already mentioned this, but I also had the reaction of: All this mayhem to take just 4 babies? Presumably The Mayor wanted everyone incapacitated so that no one would feel blameless about what happened and I guess, would rather forget the whole incident. But it just seemed like overkill, fun overkill, but overkill nonetheless. >My rating: 4.5 (out of 10.0) I wouldn't be that harsh I guess. For what it's worth, I think Homecoming stands out above everything else this season and Beauty and the Beasts stands out below everything else. The rest are sort of in the middle. Well, FH&T is a little above the middle. Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:36:33 EST From: Alverdine@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: spoiler question In a message dated 98-11-12 16:32:10 EST, you write: > i have a question if any one knows about the buffy angel kiss they showed in > the preview, was that this season to be in the next ep or was that an old > view > of them kissing? I had the same question so I watched it a few times and it *appears* to be a new clip--of course I could be wrong. Unfortunately, I won't be able to find out until next weekend as I will be out of town and away from a television on Tuesday night. Here's hoping my VCR timer works... Kelly aka Alverdine - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:41:03 -0800 From: Farnaz Ayrom Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cordelia vs Willow (was: Band Candy) > > >>I think it's going to be >EXPLOSIVE! You all remember how Cordelia >dared to put her hand on Buffy >and push her out of the way in Homecoming >and how angry she got when Buffy called her a 'vapid whore'? Well, I'm >thinking if Cordelia gets that angry about a threat to her Homecoming >Queen chances, she will just >>go ballistic when she confronts Willow.>> > I don't know. I can easily see Cordy stunned that her boyfriend would find someone else more attractive than her and that she's not the slayer when it comes to dating. That stunnedness would quickly dissolve into hurt. Sure it seems more in character with Cordy to have an angry outburst, but why do I have this image of Cordy quietly crumbling? This isn't like her other relationships, like with Devon, the band singer, where she was miffed that he didn't call her. She's put more of herself into this relationship and it's probably the longest Cordelia Chase romantic liason in history. I think shock and heartache will preceed anger this time. Everyone is expecting Cordelia to go berserk--("you don't want to mess with Cordy"...Xander's nervous chuckle, Homecoming) but since when has Cordelia done the predictable? Maybe this will be her break through vulnerability moment..we've seen glimpses of her vulnerable side in Go Fish by the pool in that laughably tender speech of bath toys, in Invisible Girl where she reveals how lonely it is at the top, in BBB where she--in the most touching scene ever in XC history-- hides behind her locker door and takes off the necklace and returns it to Xander, and in Becoming 2 in the hospital when she runs in describing how she ran, and how scared she was, and how not brave she was (that's got to be a big moment for Cordy..admitting she's not as tough as she puts forth). Sure there should be a bitter reproach moment when she confronts Willow, but I think I'd be rather disappointed if there was a catfight. Of course I can see the humorous value, but I think it should be a more serious scene that could showcase both Charisma Carpenter's and Alyson Hannigan's dramatic acting. jewels soap box queen - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:44:29 EST From: fun-ee@juno.com (fun ee) Subject: BUFFY: Meow! [Cordelia pushes Willow into a vacant classroom] WILLOW: Why'd you drag me in here? CORDELIA: Don't play coy with me, you little back-stabbing thief! WILLOW: What? CORDELIA: You know what I'm talking about! Poor, little, shy, defenseless Willow, who everyone thinks is so cute, is really a boyfriend-stealing little slut -- is what I'm talking about! WILLOW: Listen Cordelia, I know how this must look but it...it...it just happened. [Cordelia gets menacingly face-to-face close to Willow] CORDELIA: Right! Well, it's not gonna happen anymore, understand? [Suddenly something stirs in the usually meek Willow] WILLOW: Listen, just...just who appointed you the Queen of Bitches? Huh!? Where do you get off telling me what to do? Xander and me go way back to before he even met you. Before you, he and I were friends. CORDELIA: Friends -- I can understand, but you knew that Xander and I were involved. Where do you get off going behind both mine and Oz's backs and deceiving us like this? I can't believe this! You of all people would be the last one I'd suspect. I could understand Buffy or Faith doing this, but you. You...you tramp! WILLOW: Bitch! [Cordelia starts emphasizing each sentence with a finger push against Willow's chest] CORDELIA: Why, you little nerd! What were you before I became your friend but a social outcast! Just because you have Oz as a boyfriend now doesn't mean anything! You're still just a loser! [Suddenly, Willow grabs Cordelia's finger and bends it back and down bringing the surprised and pained Cordelia to her knees] WILLOW: (still holding Cordelia's finger) Don't you ever call me that again! Do you understand? CORDELIA: Ahhh! Yes...yes, ok, just let go of my finger! WILLOW: I'm not a loser. I'm Willow -- Sometimes Substitute Teacher, Computer Expert, Straight-A Student, and I have friends, and I help Buffy save the world and...and fight demons and stuff. CORDELIA: Ok, you're not a loser. [Willow releases Cordelia's finger] WILLOW: Um...ok, I'm glad you understand. And I hope you also understand that Xander is free to do as he pleases. If he wants to stay with you that's ok, but if he wants to choose me, then that's his decision also. It's HIS choice, not yours or mine. Do you understand? CORDELIA: Ok, ok, we'll let him decide. [Willow turns and walks out leaving Cordelia to nurse her finger and wonder in amazement at the lioness she has just seen awakened in Willow] end ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:54:55 -0400 From: Denis Theriault Subject: BUFFY: RE: new brunswick? [spoiler] "...the size of new brunswick?" is this a reference to an american new brunswick or is buffy actually refering to an eastern canadian province when she points out to her mother the extent of the damage done to the jeep? [i'm american-illiterate] ooh..i wanna know too since i live in New Brunswick (canada) The only other new brunswick that i know of is in Maine.. but meaning the size, the province is pretty much an average state size. Christine :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:55:50 EST From: fun-ee@juno.com (fun ee) Subject: BUFFY: Re: Cordelia vs Willow (was: Band Candy) Farnaz Ayrom brought up a very good point: > Sure there should be a bitter reproach moment when she confronts >Willow, but I think I'd be rather disappointed if there was a catfight. Of >course I can see the humorous value, but I think it should be a more >serious scene that could showcase both Charisma Carpenter's and Alyson dramatic acting. I think we could have a little of both. But, I have to admit that since they are building up Cordelia's character, it might just possibly go the way you say with Cordelia taking a philosophical look at losing Xander and also possibly because of that loss evolve past it growing in maturity and strength as a character. However, I still am inclined to think there's going to be some fireworks. Can you honestly see Cordelia not taking a few swings at Willow just to vent some anger? Meow! funee (: ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:01:48 -0500 From: genevieve@gist.com (Genevieve Faulkner) Subject: BUFFY: Meow! >[Cordelia pushes Willow into a vacant classroom] > Fun ee, honey, let's leave it to Joss, o'kay? Because if anyone else out there is like me, that fake scene you wrote will now be wraped around the real story line, and it will be hard to separate fact from fiction. That is why I do not read fan fic (sorry, all you fic writers, but it gets too confusing). Love ya, fun ee! I'm a Buffaholic I'm a Cordy Girl, "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass."(KBD)-- My new motto to live by. Love ya, Cordelia! I'm Spike's slave--and proud of it! - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:04:52 EST From: BuffySumr9@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY:next weeks ep. SPOILER SPACE * * * * * * * * * * * * - -- It's a good point that Willow could have been actually helping Xander & Faith kill Angel. But, she could have, also, been running in to stop them from killing him. Who knows? As most people on this list have said..previews can be misleading. But..from this preview we can definitly gather that Xander *wants* to help Faith kill Angel. And, Faith does attempt too. Oh, and we do know that the gang *does* find out about Angel. Hmmm..I suggest we just wait until next week and not argue about it. Lots 'o Luv, Ashley *THE SLAYER SITE* http://members.aol.com/SlayerSite/slayersite.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:46:52 EST From: BuffyChic4@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Graphic for Buffy Website Hey! I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a graphic for my main page. I would give you full credit and an advertisement for your site. I know exactly what I want so I could send you all the info and details. If your interested please e-mail me privately at BuffyChic4@aol.com. Thanks in advance! ~Cathy BuffyChic4@aol.com "Oh God, if your out there won't you hear me, I know that we've never talked before, but oh God the man I love is leaving, won't you take him when he comes to your door. ~Sarah McLachlan~ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:18:13 EST From: BuffySumr9@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Bashing anyone who's not Angel Okay..well I have some words in defense of my dislike for Xander. I dislike Xander, just because I do. It's not because he hates Angel..it's because he totally disrespects Buffy's feelings towards Angel. He acts only out of jealousy. Why, you ask? Because he's petty and self-absorbed. I mean, I can understand his feelings of jealousy, but they way he acts on those feelings is not right. He has no regrets for the way his actions and words hurt Buffy or anyone else, for that matter. Remember: "Well, Jenny's dead." That was a totally, out-right, rude comment. And it was directed to Giles, not Buffy. I agree with someone else who posted that we've never seen Xander show any feelings of remorse or respect to Jenny Calendar. We've only seen him use her as an excuse for Angel to be killed. I mean..come on now? I just want to applaud Angel, Buffy, and Giles for putting up with his irresponsible actions. Angel should have snapped Xander's neck long ago when he first started his obnoxious name calling such as "dead boy." And what's worse is that he said it right in front of Buffy. Rude much? That boy needs to learn a lesson and I sure hope he does..*soon*! Can't wait for next week's ep! SPOILER SPACE {Slight spoiler possibility} * * * * * * * * - -- Maybe Willow and Buffy find out about how Xander lied. Maybe that's why we saw the way shocked Will face? Well, that could put a damper on their budding romance. Which, BTW, I think Will is *much* better with Oz. Lots 'o Luv Ash - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #568 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)