From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #614 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, December 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 614 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: Cordy's Aspen comment (little OT, but not too much) BUFFY: re: the snow BUFFY: amends-ments BUFFY: Clothes on Buffy BUFFY: Petrified wood bullets; Sunnydale HS sweatshirt BUFFY: Re: buffy-digest V2 #613 BUFFY: Willow and Xander Re: BUFFY: Amends BUFFY: Review--"Amends" **SPOILERS!!** BUFFY: making amends BUFFY: Eonline poll Re: BUFFY: miss calendar Re: BUFFY: Giles and Joyce did it! BUFFY: When Hellmouth Freezes Over ("Amends" SPOILERS) Re: BUFFY: christmas Re: BUFFY: Petrified wood bullets BUFFY: spike appearance BUFFY: Faith in the Angel Series Spin Off? BUFFY: Free E-mail Address Re: BUFFY: christmas BUFFY: Xander BUFFY: Last night's ep... BUFFY: The EW see-saw battle continues Re: BUFFY: Xander Re: BUFFY: Thoughts on "Amends" BUFFY: Faith's real name? See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:59:19 -0700 From: "Doyce Testerman" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cordy's Aspen comment (little OT, but not too much) >I'm sorry, I really have to share this. Cordy's comment about going to >Aspen with real snow and cold had my rolling on the ground. I live in >Aspen, well, not in but a few minutes away. It's 50 degrees outside!! No I was thinking the same thing driving from Golden down to the Denver Tech Center today - warm and sunny at 8 am. It's just so typically Cordelia-luck that she went to Aspen for skiing, and missed out on probably the heaviest snowfall east of the Missouri. And she'll probably blame Buffy :) - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Okay: I'm an undead creature of the night who can shave with my /hand/... how many things am /I/ afraid of? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bear@bears-cave.com {} -= Doyce =- {} www.bears-cave.com/btvs/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:05:46 -0400 From: Donna Brown Subject: BUFFY: re: the snow > Was this a localized phenomenon? There was a TV weather guy who > said that Sunnydale wouldn't see sun...and the weather map showed > just that area blanketed with snow. > I'll bet I wasn't the only Philadelphia-area fan wishing they had used our local weather guy Dave Roberts in a cameo for that scene -- after all, he's David Boreanaz's father! - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:31:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Jessica Bennett (Levy Library)" Subject: BUFFY: amends-ments > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > - -Bartender Willy makes an appearance! yay! he rocks! > - -It was made very clear how Giles feels about Angel. They had a > conversation, but Giles -still in untrusting mode- spent the whole time > pointing a cross-bow at Angel`s heart. Great scene. Giles is so cute when he's all pissy. > - -What was also made very clear is that Joyce still does not trust Giles. > She refused to invite him over on xmas eve despite the fact that he did > not have anywhere to go. I thought that this was because of the whole "Band Candy"-did-they-shag-or-didn't-they incident. I think she's just a wee bit uncomfortable about the whole sitch. > - -Faith hangs out with Buffy and her mom for Christmas. She's back! woo hoo! > - -SMG has yet another haircut. She now has these spiky little bangs. I > know, I know, it is petty of me, but I just had to mention it. Not petty at all. I think that it's obvious how important hair is to this show. I think that this particular 'do was only fair-to-middlin', whatever that means. jessie - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:40:33 -0800 From: "Okoniewski, Deborah" Subject: BUFFY: Clothes on Buffy Someone asked about the clothes on Buffy and where the costume designers get them. A lot of the clothes, shoes, etc. come from stores in the Beverly Center mall which is a huge, very upscale mall on LaCienega Boulevard. Sometime last year I posted the names of some of the shops where they bought the clothes, but I'm afraid I no longer have that post. They also shop in some of the stores on Melrose Avenue, where you can find everything from vintage clothing shops to designer brands to goth/punk wear. It's lots of fun to park the car and spend the afternoon walking up and down both sides of the street and looking in the shops. I've found some pretty interesting items in these shops. A lot of the clothes and shoes in Buffy are fairly expensive. I tend to hesitate at paying $150 for a pair of shoes, or $300 for a sweater. Then again, I'd rather spend my money on books. :) Your mileage may vary. BTW, it does snow in California. Depends on where you live. We had 6 inches last year at the ranch where the horses are boarded. It was absolutely beautiful. It is rare for LA proper to get snow, but drive out towards the Antelope Valley (about an hour) and it's not so unusual. Today it is supposed to hit 85 degrees, so I don't think we need to worry. deborah - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:45:32 -0500 From: "Allen J. Oh" Subject: BUFFY: Petrified wood bullets; Sunnydale HS sweatshirt The question has been raised whether a petrified wood bullet would kill a vampire, since wooden bullets wouldn't be feasible. My guess would be that they wouldn't work, because they're really not wood, but stone (right?). My understanding is that petrified wood is wood that has, over the years, absorbed minerals...meanwhile, the wood itself decays, leaving only stone. Or I could be wrong. Besides, I would think that explosive force would shatter the bullet as soon as it was fired. On another note, I received a Sunnydale High School sweatshirt that I ordered from the Buffy store (www.buffystore.com; it takes you somewhere else) for my cousin for Christmas. In the words of Principal Snyder, "I'm so STOKED!" Very well done. It's maroon with yellow lettering and a tiny Buffy logo in the bottom corner, by the waist. My cousin is very much into inside jokes, so she'll get a kick out of it. Allen - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:04:34 PST From: "L Arabia" Subject: BUFFY: Re: buffy-digest V2 #613 Help! I missed Buffy last night and Felicity! Can some kind soul send me a copy of both shows??? Please ? please email me off list if you can ... thanks, toni hentzau@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:01:51 EST From: AmberR3203@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Willow and Xander Is anyone else wondering if Will went over to Xander's house to watch A Charlie Brown Christmas this year -- you know, to see the Snoopy dance : ) ? Just curious. --AMBER ROSE-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:38:15 PST From: "simara hubble" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Amends >following week, on Tue Dec 29, there will be a special two-hour >presentation of both parts of Becoming. >Jeff Rohaly I never got to see Becoming 2 so maybe I'm the only one who flipped out over this message. Is this for sure? Because I am going to be so happy if it is. I just want to verify. Thanks. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:46:45 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Hickerson Subject: BUFFY: Review--"Amends" **SPOILERS!!** Warning: If SPOILERS for the holiday-themed episode of Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, "Amends" will bring out your inner-Grinch, please turn back now... In short: Joss delivers a great holiday treat. I love the Christmas season. (Well, all excpet the shopping that is!) I love the lights, the decorations, the carols, the cookies, the feeling of good cheer and warmth. But one part of the Christmas season I dread are the holiday-themed episodes that shows will do. It's a time of year when silly coincidences occur, miracles happen, and the holidays just make all of life seem perfect for that moment. This doesn't bug me as much for lighter shows such as just about any half-hour comedy (with the excpetion of Sports Night, which if you haven't watched yet, you need to!). But it does bug me on drama series that are bit more dark and cynical in nature. These episodes can be a bit disconcerting when looked at in the light of the entire series as a whole. Which is why I was feeling a bit Grinch-like going into last night's episode. I was worried that Buffy's usual dark tone would suffer immensely from a candy-coated holiday warmth and a false sense of having to have all of chracters have a Merry Christmas. In short, we'd get a feel-good episode that would serve no purpose. Then I saw the words "Written and Directed by Joss Whedon" flash on screen and my fears were gone. My heart grew three sizes and I enjoyed what has to be the best episode of the third season so far. Buffy's holiday themed episode hit all the right notes. Namley because it remained true to what Buffy is. I liked the fact that Joss took a chance in an episode that ws going to be hyped the WB to step up and advance the storyline a bit. I realize that new viewers may have been a bit confused, but I honestly feel everything was explained enough to be accessible and that he threw in enough tidbits to keep us long time viewers happy. A delicate line to walk, and one that Joss does with accomplished ease. Bascially, the show was one that happened to take place during the holiday season. Rather than seeing Buffy fight off some come of threat to Christmas as we know it, we see the usual events that shake and rock the Buffyverse unfold on screen. I liked that. We got to see a bit about the character in how they celebrated the holiday season, but we weren't hit over the head with it. Indeed, if you've read or seen one of the million and one versions of a Christmas Carol, you can see where Joss got his isnpiration. Angel is forced to confront the ghosts of Chrimstas past and present in the form of a demon. Of course, there was no Christmas future ghost and I think that was a good choice. I like seeing the future as an open book even though we know that the future is setting up Angel for a depature to his own series in a few weeks. But, back to my point. After seeing a bit of just who Angel was when he became a vampire and how he go to Sunnydale, it was interesting to see a bit of his past before he was re-souled. To see just how manipulative and vicious he was. It was a nice counterpoint to his scenes with Giles when he asks the librarians help and is met with open hostility (in a scene that really should get Anthony Stewart Head and David Boreanaz am Emmy nod!). Agnel's being forced to confront his past to save his future was interesting. And also seeing him give into the despair the demon wanted him feel was interesting. His decision to cast himself to the sunlight was an interesting one and one that has been building all year. And while we got a possible answer to why Angel returned, I don't think we yet have the definitive one. Something brought Angel back from the demon dimesnion. I feel as though Joss has given us just one more small piece of the puzzle to consider and play with while he gets ready to drop a bombshell on us later on down the road. And I'm ready. But what also made this episode a success was how it kept the elements of Buffy that are stronges while moving them forward. We got to see Buffy being tough but vulnerable, the Scooby gang work as a research team, and an evil force that comes to the Hellmouth. All of these harken back to the early days of what first attracted me to this show. But also built upon here was the things that make Buffy so much fun to watch still--the dynamic nature of the character's relationships. Seeing Oz and Willow's reconcilation was nice and kept in the theme of forgiveness of the overall show. Seeing how far Willow was willing or ready to go to show Oz he was speical was a nice touch and really well realized. It was handled with a sensitity and grace that is needed when disucsing such an issue. And I only hope we'll see the same kind of honest, loving reaction when and if Oz and Willow do consumate their relationship in the future. We also saw the continued fall-out of Xander and Cordy. Last week we got to see things a bit from Cordy's world so her absense here wasn't too glaring. I did miss her a bit, but it's only logical she wouldn't be too eager to hang with the Scooby gang just yet. Also, after the events in Revelations, we saw a bit of reconcilaiton of Faith and Buffy. I don't think thinkgs will eve rbe the same between (at least I hope they won't be because honestly too much has happened for them to be best buds again any time soon!) but they did move forward. Seeing Faith be a bit vulnerable was nice and it begins to humanize her a bit more. And to be honest, she does need that. Smooth out her hard edges and I think you've got a richer, more complex charcter for the gang to play off. About the only part that struck me as distraction was the fact that I guessed the secret layer of the demon when the guy mentioned the trees were dying. I guess having been watching the show too much because alarm bells sounded in my head. I also found it interesting that it only snowed in Sunnydale. But then again, this is the Hellmouth, so you never know what's gonna happen. :-) But in an overall outstanding story, these two minor things are not going to make the grade it down. It was just that good. Well, that about wraps it up for now. Except for a few small things.... --For those of you who don't know, this is the one year anniversary of my doing these reviews. In that time, the response and kind words have been wonderful and I just wanted to thank all of you for allowing me to share my thoughts and views. And I welcome any responses you have at any time... --I just sort of wondered what Faith got Buffy and her mom. Of course, this leads me to another question--just how does Faith afford her room? Does she have a job? --I liked the referneces Willow made to having the Hannakah spirit. Those were nicely done. --Poor ol' Xander. Everyone has someone at the end, except him. I hope things pick up for him soon. Well, that's about it for now. All in all, a great episode. One I plan to re-watch Monday night when they re-peat it. My rating: 10.0 Next up: Monday night--an encore. Tuesday, a repeat of Dead Man's Party. "And I'd hoped we'd keep that little dirty secret between us." --Xander. P.S. I'd just like to take a chance to wish all of you a very blessed and merry holiday season. ********************************************************** *Michael Hickerson mhickers@usit.net* ********************************************************** *"They should never give a license to a man who drives a * * sleigh and plays with elves" * * --Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer * ********************************************************** - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:40:58 EST From: Coolkarma@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: making amends i'm sure i am in the majority when i say the final part of amends was the highlight of the whole ep. there were so many other wonderful moments (the almost sex between willow and oz, for example) but finally seeing buffy and angel confront their feelings took the prize. it's clear from this scene how much they care about each other and this is something they will most likely never get over. what's interesting though is that i always envisioned a similar confrontation with xander. the air has already been cleared a bit between xander and buffy, but why do i keep thinking it isn't over? xander seems to be handling the whole angel issue better, but i don't think there was much of a transition. first he wants angel dead and then suddenly he wants to help angel? i'm sure he got a lot out of his system, but i can't help wondering if there is an even bigger confrontation forthcoming. if it doesn't, if what happened in revelations was it, it all seemed a little anti-climactic. everybody got some things off their chests when they found out angel was back in that ep, but it appeared to me that xander was still holding back. speaking of xander, i was boo-hooing when i saw him sleeping outside in that sleeping bag. makes me understand him a little bit. maybe he has a hard time expressing himself because of the way his parents are? that would also explain his outbursts. i guess i am a little guilty for my xander bashing then (only a little). more shirtless angel. yay. it's a nice image and all, but i hope somebody bought him some clothes for xmas. with the snow and all, he probably shouldn't be running around shirtless like that. so i see this is the last new ep of 98. phooey. so i guess i either start liking king of the hill real quick or find something else to occupy my tuesdays in the meantime. bye!~ gary - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:50:14 -0600 (CST) From: Kelly White Subject: BUFFY: Eonline poll If you go to the Eonline site (www.eonline.com) they are having a year end poll. The only Buffy reference is to Alyson Hannigan, she is nominated for best second banana! You have to vote for all 25 questions to cast your vote for Alyson. Kelly J. White SIUE Computer Support and Service http://www.siue.edu/~kwhite "God grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, change those I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people who irritated me." - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:50:49 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Hickerson Subject: Re: BUFFY: miss calendar > I don't understand why she had to become EVIL. What happened to the > Miss Calendar we all knew and loved? She could have made Angel repent > without being evil. Why did it happen? I don't get it.. It wasn't Ms. Calendar, but the demon appearing to Angel as Ms. Calendar. It also appeared to him as the other ghosts of his past in the story. I hope this helps you out! Michael ********************************************************** *Michael Hickerson mhickers@usit.net* ********************************************************** *"They should never give a license to a man who drives a * * sleigh and plays with elves" * * --Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer * ********************************************************** - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:52:04 -0700 (MST) From: Mel Walker Subject: Re: BUFFY: Giles and Joyce did it! On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, fun ee wrote: > and Xander and Cordelia I guess...where the heck was Cordelia anyway? Aspen. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:35:28 -0800 From: Lisa Rose Subject: BUFFY: When Hellmouth Freezes Over ("Amends" SPOILERS) Spoilers for "Amends" (yew've bin worned!).... I swear that Joss keeps making thematic "Hell" puns, based on familiar expressions. Last week it was "Hellmouth hath no fury like a woman scorned." This week the final image of snow falling on the town suggests, "When Hellmouth freezes over" (that's when Angel will finally forgive himself). Was intrigued by the idea of the spirits returning to elucidate their feelings about their deaths (ala "Spoon River Anthology"), especially if those feelings weren't the typical "I'll have revenge!" or "It is YOU who must learn to forgive YOURSELF, Angel!" Agreed with Keith that the family man w/ the two kids was the most riveting. But was a little disappointed that in the end it was all just a ploy by the baddies (and the explanation for Angel's release from Hell). This is the second time we've seen a faux Jenny Calendar image conjured up by baddies to manipulate one of our heroes (the first being "Becoming-II" of course). Will the *real* spirit of Jenny Calendar please step forward? I miss you! OTOH, I *loved* Buffy's response to the Jenny apparition's longwinded speech of doom and gloom, "Alright, you're evil. Do we have to chat about it all day?" (or something like that). That was a direct return to the show's first-season, wisecracking, not-taking- itself-so-seriously, satire of the horror genre where the blonde upstart girl just rips through all the classic pontifications of the overly serious villains (instead of being overly serious herself). And it was a really nice moment of cool relief amid that hot (though frequently interesting) blizzard of Angel-angst. Joss really needs to get back to that bread and butter stuff more often, imho (the stuff that made so many of us fall in love with him in the first place). Lisa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:37:09 -0500 (EST) From: Susan Cho Yuk Subject: Re: BUFFY: christmas I don't know about the rest of you, but I kept thinking that the bangs made SMG look like Anne Heche (who for those of you who don't know is half of the power lesbian couple which left Hollywood). It's different. Faith looked much different w/o all the eye make-up she usually wears. Were Eliza and Sarah done by the same make-up artist? Their styles looked similar, especially the blush. Okay, I am now out of the vapid, cosmetic phase. About the show: great dramatics. Incredible acting. But did anyone find the storyline a little lacking of explanation. Like why were they targeting Angel? How come this is the first time the First Evil even bothers to show? Susan On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Duremdes BShaw22 wrote: > regarding Sarah's new hairstyle, I love it. I think it makes her sexier. > Also why was Cordy only in it for ten seconds or something? Faith looked > cool too. Later, gotta go. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:47:49 EST From: Smurf6942@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Petrified wood bullets In a message dated 12/16/98 1:46:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, ajo@raderfishman.com writes: > Besides, I would think that explosive force would shatter the bullet as > soon as it was fired. Actually, this topic has been raised before. Not only are wooden bullets feasible, but they are so effective, that NATO has outlawed the use of them in modern warfare. - -----Smurf Smurf 6942@aol.com Keeper of Buffy's Faith Longtime Member of the Buffy Crew - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:34:58 -0800 From: alanazar@jasper.uor.edu Subject: BUFFY: spike appearance did anyone onlist go see Spike at the bookstore in Santa Barbara?????? they called me last week to confirm my $5 reservation, but I couldn't go at the last minute. A - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:52:21 EST From: EBugayong@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Faith in the Angel Series Spin Off? I've been looking through Faith websites in the net. Their is this one that say Faith might be in the spin off next year. So she can probably be the slayer in that show. Hey, but it's just all rumors. - -Edmann http://come.to/tdn http://come.to/donnas http://come.to/systematic - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:58:06 EST From: EBugayong@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Free E-mail Address I found a website were you can sign up a free e-mail address under www.buffymail.com, www.dawsonmail.com, & www.felicitymail.com - -Edmann http://come.to/tdn http://come.to/donnas http://come.to/systematic - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:07:15 EST From: Arakzile@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: christmas In a message dated 98-12-16 15:41:54 EST, syuk@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu writes: << I don't know about the rest of you, but I kept thinking that the bangs made SMG look like Anne Heche >> Her bangs are horrible!!!!!! what were they thinking????? geez.....when I first noticed them in the 1 800 collect commercial...I almost threw up! Kara - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 18:07:48 EST From: Tortured69@aol.com Subject: BUFFY: Xander I think Xander realized what Buffy was going through and why she couldnt just kill Angel. Xander has lost Cordelia, and now he is in the same boat as Buffy, Lost the one you love, and can`t get it back.... or maybe by theway he touched her shoulder, and looked at her in last nights ep, he wants another shot at Buffy and thinks that by being at her side, he can win her over and impress Cordiela by getting a better girlfriend - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:24:22 PST From: "Christine Molesky" Subject: BUFFY: Last night's ep... Last night's ep was very much lacking wit, but nevertheless there were some neat-o points: * Joyce's "Angel's on top again?" quote made me laugh so hard, my mom had to threaten me to shut up. Was I the only one to catch that, or the only one to think that was insanely funny? * Willow trying to set the mood with Barry White. 'Nuff said. * Cordelia only had one real scene. Seeing as how she's a main character, I knew she would have to talk some time, but I thought she was a little to direct after what had happened before. How much time had passed between "Amends" and "The Wish"? * Buffy didn't finish her sentence! (which always pisses me off my rocker.) Even if a few flakes fell, I would have finished the sentence at the end of my speech! * Can vampires really go out on extremely cloudy days, like Angel was at the end of the ep? Is it even possible for there to be such a cloudy day there is no direct sunlight at all? * I was amused by Willow's Hannukah reminders. I miss hearing Jewish people complain about Christmas crap now that I go to a mainly Christain school. * I was very willing to get into Xander's sleeping bag to help him get warmed up. Was anyone else thinking the same thing? My two cents... actually more like one cent... holiday shopping sucks Christine M. --> SMURF *Keeper of Buffy's pinned green sweater (WSWB), her tampon (SH), and her eyeshadow. *Keeper of Willow's pink blouse with green collar (RB) and her seat on the "joy train" (TW) *WPWP member #675 --> We Posses Willow Power! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:49:25 -0700 From: David Simpson Subject: BUFFY: The EW see-saw battle continues Well, Sarah is still duking it out with Gillian Anderson in the Entertainment Weekly Vote for Hollywood's Greatest Actress (of the 90's, if you read the intro to it). Sarah was at #2 this morning, moved up to #1 during the early afternoon, and is now back down at #2. I have noticed that when these reminders get out to our list members, Sarah tends to move up in the ranking, so if you are so inclined, go vote for her at http://cgi.pathfinder.com/ew/features/981204/actresspoll/index.html In other poll news, Sarah is still leading in the TV Guide poll for King and Queen of You Sexy Thing! Her lead is a little over 1900 votes. You can vote for her by going to http://www.tvgen.com/features/yst/ and working your way through the whole display of nominees. If you want to just vote directly, the women's poll is at http://www.tvgen.com/features/yst/fvote.htm. If you also want to vote for David Boreanaz in the men's poll, you can do so at http://www.tvgen.com/features/yst/mvote.htm. David currently has a lead of about 650 votes over Hanson. David Simpson mailto:simpsond@utah-inter.net Cordelia: Why is it, every time I go somewhere with you, it always ends in violence and terror? Buffy: Welcome to my life. - --- Homecoming (BtVS) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 19:03:03 -0800 From: Kelli Brown Subject: Re: BUFFY: Xander > or maybe by theway > he > touched her shoulder, and looked at her in last nights ep, he wants another > shot at Buffy and thinks that by being at her side, I'm glad that I am not the only person that thought that. During the scene in the street after they leave the bar, it seemed like Xander was trying to win over Buffy. Maybe I am wrong, hell I probably am wrong, but it just seemed that way to me. It seemed to me that Xander was a little too anxious to help Angel. He might have ulterior motives. I don't know, maybe I am just too cynical. Kelli - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 19:34:12 -0500 From: TedJMill@mindspring.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Thoughts on "Amends" Allen J. Oh >On a somewhat more serious note, I was pleased to see that >Oz didn't take advantage of Willow. Perfect gentleman This is the second time he's done something like that; in Surprise/Innocence, Oz didn't kiss Willow because she would just be doing it to get back at Xander, after she caught him with Cordelia. Ironic that the first time, Willow did it because she'd lost Xander to Cordelia, so to speak, while the second time it was because she'd GOTTEN Xander from Cordelia. Another "compare and contrast" is with BBB, when Willow, under the love spell, tries to seduce Xander to be her first, and also gets turned down. More irony; in that one, Oz hit Xander for upsetting Willow in some way Oz couldn't make out, and now Oz in effect does the same thing to Willow that Xander did; he turns down her seduction attempt. . >>emotional, but luckily, it began snowing potato flakes...er, I mean snow >>flakes, so the sun did not rise. > >Was this a localized phenomenon? There was a TV weather guy who >said that Sunnydale wouldn't see sun...and the weather map showed >just that area blanketed with snow. Kind of easy to suspend disbelief, >what with Sunnydale being the Hellmouth and all, but it's still a >little weird that everywhere else would have sun and Sunnydale would >be under nightfall all day. > >Or could it be that the weather guy meant that Sunnydale would be >under very heavy cloud cover? Which raises the question, when >it's REALLY cloudy out, can vampires walk around during the day? >Or is there still enough UV coming down to burn them? > >>In a dream sequence, we see a very hot scene of Angel and Buffy sleeping >>together. > >You know, this is the one episode I watched with my parents in the >same house...indeed, the same room for much of the episode. I was >thinking, thank God my mom was out of the room during this scene! > >>Again, not a lot of quotable lines in this episode. I realize that the >>past few episodes have had serious subjects, but I miss the wit! > >I kind of liked the whole Jewish thing with Willow towards the >beginning of the episode. "Still Hanukkah!" :) > >This was one of my favorite episodes, and I am glad it is airing >again Monday -- my parents were trying to talk to me during >last night's airing, so I missed certain parts. I especially liked >the Giles/Angel exchange and the Buffy/Angel exchange at the end. > >On a somewhat non-Buffy note, I also watched Felicity last night, >and I was literally rolling on the floor with laughter. You would >think I was on the "smart powder!" The funniest episode yet! The >reason I bring this up is, for those of you who saw it, did Rich >(the guy who had the barbecue in his room, then caught Noel and >Felicity kissing, then said "YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT FIT TO BE AN >RA!") remind anyone else of Jonathan? He had a somewhat more >prominent role than Jonathan usually has in Buffy, but he had >a certain Jonathanesque quality to him. Maybe it was the way >he sort of popped up where you didn't expect him. It was sort >of like four or five Jonathan appearances in a single Buffy >episode. I, for one, believe that Rich should be made a recurring >character, a la Jonathan. :) > >Allen > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 18:31:04 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngan Subject: BUFFY: Faith's real name? Could anyone please e-mail me off-list to tell me what Faith's real -life actress name is? thanks! Are there any websites/pages out there dedicated to the 2nd slayer? Dave N. ngan@rohan.sdsu.edu dngan@netpartners.com http://aznet.net/~buffylvr/index.htm "The human tongue weighs only a couple of ounces, but few people can seem to hold it" - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #614 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)