From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Date: 01 Mar 2003 17:59:31 -0500 Ed, looks like a double bottom to me on the 1 year chart. Based at the pivot point of the mid-point of the "W" before breaking out Friday on 2.5X ADV. Would have been nicer to see it close Friday at the high end of the day's range, but may not be ready yet to b/o that strongly. Semi-conductors group has been very volatile. Funds have 34% of the float already, and have been steadily increasing over the past year. On track thru 3 qtrs to meet the 500% increase in earnings, which gives credibility to the forecast of a further 46% gain in the new year starting May (I hate non-standard fiscal years, BTW). ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:46 PM Any comments on OVTI? Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM Tom: Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in all literature has ever had such significance)! jans In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right in front of the word "Former". >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Date: 01 Mar 2003 18:01:20 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C2E01C.9027D1B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric, with RS ranging from 10 to 30, and the charts that they each have, = I would call this bottom fishing rather than CANSLIM. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:52 PM Notable strength and resistance clearing in SMH, IDTI, SMTC.=20 "Edward W. Gjertsen II" wrote:=20 Any comments on OVTI? Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any = attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of = Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AMI Tom: Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in all=20 literature has ever had such significance)! jans In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right = in front of the word "Former". >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C2E01C.9027D1B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Eric, with RS ranging from 10 to 30, and the = charts that=20 they each have, I would call this bottom fishing rather than=20 CANSLIM.
 
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI

Notable strength and resistance clearing in SMH, IDTI, SMTC.=20

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Tom:

Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if = the=20 word"former" in
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Yahoo!=20 Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C2E01C.9027D1B0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 02 Mar 2003 11:35:35 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01C2E0AF.D77E1C20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00B2_01C2E0AF.D77E1C20" ------=_NextPart_001_00B2_01C2E0AF.D77E1C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ECONOMICS Economists started the week by cutting their forecast for this quarter = from 2.6% growth to 2.2%, while also lowering the "fool" year forecast = from 2.6% to 2.5%. Of course, that expectation for the year includes = doing 3.6% in the 4th quarter, down from 4.2% originally. They saw = little change in unemployment, and forecasted nearly a percent rise in = lending rates, which could damage the housing market as mortgage rates = go up as well. Growth in the 4th quarter 2002 GDP was revised up from 0.7% originally = reported, to 1.4%, expectations had been for a revision to 1.0%. Sales of existing homes jumped an unexpected 3% in January to a new = record at an annual rate of 6.09 million from an upwardly revised rate = of 5.91 million in December. The rate had been expected to drop to 5.80 = million. Inventories rose to a 4.5 month supply from a 4.3 month supply. Going the other way, sales of new homes fell 15.2% in January to an = annual rate of 914,000 from 1.08 million in December. A minor decline to = 1.05 million had been expected. While new home sales make up only a = small portion of the total housing sector, they are crucial to the = continued success of homebuilder stock prices. In another contradictory signal, consumer confidence plunged to 64 in = February from 78.8, hitting a nine year low (9 YEARS!!, that's worse = than right after 9/11). Expected was a drop to only 77. The magnitude of = the drop was mirrored in the expectations index, down to 65.6 from 81.1, = and in the present situation index, down to 61.6 from 75.3. Mostly mirroring this was Univ. of Michigan's consumer confidence report = for February, which was revised up slightly to 79.9 from 79.2, but = remains at a nine year low. Expectations were for no change. And just to confuse the picture more, January's Durable Goods report = showed a gain of 3.3% while December's report was revised down to 0.4% = decline. A gain of only 1.3% had been expected for January. Biggest = gainer was automotive, up over 10%. New unemployment claims continued to rise, up 417,000 for the week, = expected was a drop to 390K. The 4 week moving average rose again to = 399,750 while continuing claims dropped slightly to 3.38 million from = 3.42 million. In a prelude to next week's ISM manufacturing production report, the = NAPM-Chicago report for February fell less than expected, to 54.9 from = 56. Expected was a drop to 52.5. Prices paid continued to rise (don't = forget the spike in last month's PPI report) while the employment index = showed layoffs continuing, but at a slower rate. ------- "M" As I speculated on this topic last week, it was questionable whether the = two weeks of gains might be sustained. Now we know, it was not, another = losing week and indexes struggling to stay in the neighborhood of their = 20 day moving average. Charts look like we are just muddling along, = going no where in particular, no leadership, money moving around but not = staying, volume remains light, lots of uncertainty yet not an avalanche = of bearish sentiment either. What breakouts do occur, even from = fundamentally strong companies, also mostly fail quickly. The market = pundits keep suggesting we will retest the October lows, so far I don't = see evidence of that, nor do I see signs we are ready to start a = sustained rally of any size. Economic reports this week were mixed at = best, and did nothing to offset the bearish reports of last week. In = particular, the data on new single family housing suggests this sector = is finally slowing, even while existing housing remains strong. The = builders may finally be ready for a correction, even tho past worries of = a housing bubble have kept most from being overpriced. Iraq remains the = overriding and compelling influence on all markets. Israel's market was = up 2.5% in Sunday trading, I am sure a lot of that was due to Iraq = destroying 4 (of over 100) of their missiles on Saturday, thus lowering = the expectation of war just a bit. Until the issue of Iraq is resolved, = I do not expect markets to reflect their fundamental nature, and right = now the economic reports are simply not strong enough, any more than = corporate earnings, to suggest the markets should be rallying even = without the issue of Iraq. ------- JAPAN The nomination of the new Governor for the Bank of Japan pleased few = economists hoping for more radical efforts to shake Japan, the world's = #2 economy, out of its third recession in a decade and end the ongoing = deflationary cycle in which it finds itself. Conservative, "old guard", = Toshihiko Fukui will, however, be balanced by his two new Deputies = (Kazumasa Iwata from the Cabinet Office, and Toshiro Muto, former Vice = Finance Minister), who are expected to bring better connections with the = government, as well as more aggressive and radical approaches to Japan's = problems. The compromise appointments seem to this writer that change = will only come about rapidly and radically if Fukui's appointment is = purely face saving figure head, and BOJ policy will be set much more by = the new deputies. The fiscal year for everything Japanese is now a month = away, squaring up of the books, and writing off of bad loans, and = marking bank investment portfolios down to actual market value, could = get ugly quickly with the Nikkei having now given up all its recent = gains and slid under 8400. The continuing uncertainty over war against = Iraq will continue to weaken the US dollar and strengthen the yen, = despite recent "stealth" (please, how much stealth is there left in the = financial world anymore?) yen/dollar intervention by Japan. This hurts = Japanese exporters and the global competitiveness of the pricing on = their products. Domestic consumption within Japan continues to contract, = further hurting companies needing to increase volume even if the = deflation prevents raising prices. To date, I have seen very little = action on either the govt plans to buy back loans and rehabilitate the = borrowing company, or buying large chunks of the stock portfolios from = banks needing to build their capital reserves. I see no hope for an = economic recovery in Japan until such time as the banking industry = begins an honest assessment of their non-performing loans, declare those = in default to be in default, and either force the govt to begin buying = those loans and rehabilitate the company where possible, or else the = lending bank(s) force the company into bankruptcy and write off the = loan. And yes, this will also force a number of banks into bankruptcy = themselves, as their capital reserves, on paper, are sufficient but only = because of phony bookkeeping. There must also be an end to the cultural = practice of buying stock from the very companies they lend to, thus = adding to the bank loss when the company fails. Ultimately, I suspect = this will take a new regulation from the govt as it is so deeply = imbedded in culture. Unfortunately, I have little hope of this ever = happening unless and until the Nikkei falls well into the 7000 range, = and takes bank portfolios so low that even with the generous rules used = now they still fail to meet capital requirements, and themselves fail. ------- WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20 This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It = is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's = "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with = constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from = (and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in = Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views = or opinions of my employer. I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, = and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout = scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, = focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all = industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast = for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no = due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM = patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases = (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR = (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my = personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any = stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest, whether = real money or virtual reality (VR). The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend continues to be = meager and depressing, but in line with the reality of new highs, and = even stocks moving above their 200 dma. APOL - new handle forming?, volume increasing AVCT - continuation of a high handle?? BHE - short term staircase BLL - long handle on the cup ELTE - flat base, in my VR Fund, low priced, low liquidity, small cap GAF - B7 GGP - LLUR GIL - B8 HLTH - high handle IMO - decent cup, nice fundies IRM - b/o Friday on volume from a double bottom NSCN - LLUR, own and in my VR Fund, small cap PORT - LLUR RBK - B5 REP - high handle RVSN - 14 week c&h, volume drying up, low priced, low liquidity Happy Hunting, and keep your powder dry Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley ------=_NextPart_001_00B2_01C2E0AF.D77E1C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ECONOMICS
Economists started the week by cutting their = forecast for=20 this quarter from 2.6% growth to 2.2%, while also lowering the "fool" = year=20 forecast from 2.6% to 2.5%. Of course, that expectation for the year = includes=20 doing 3.6% in the 4th quarter, down from 4.2% originally. They saw = little change=20 in unemployment, and forecasted nearly a percent rise in lending rates, = which=20 could damage the housing market as mortgage rates go up as = well.
 
Growth in the 4th quarter 2002 GDP was revised = up from=20 0.7% originally reported, to 1.4%, expectations had been for a revision = to=20 1.0%.
 
Sales of existing homes jumped an unexpected 3% = in=20 January to a new record at an annual rate of 6.09 million from an = upwardly=20 revised rate of 5.91 million in December. The rate had been expected to = drop to=20 5.80 million. Inventories rose to a 4.5 month supply from a 4.3 month=20 supply.
 
Going the other way, sales of new homes fell = 15.2% in=20 January to an annual rate of 914,000 from 1.08 million in December. A = minor=20 decline to 1.05 million had been expected. While new home sales make up = only a=20 small portion of the total housing sector, they are crucial to the = continued=20 success of homebuilder stock prices.
 
In another contradictory signal, consumer = confidence=20 plunged to 64 in February from 78.8, hitting a nine year low (9 YEARS!!, = that's=20 worse than right after 9/11). Expected was a drop to only 77. The = magnitude of=20 the drop was mirrored in the expectations index, down to 65.6 from 81.1, = and in=20 the present situation index, down to 61.6 from 75.3.
 
Mostly mirroring this was Univ. of Michigan's = consumer=20 confidence report for February, which was revised up slightly to 79.9 = from 79.2,=20 but remains at a nine year low. Expectations were for no = change.
 
And just to confuse the picture more, January's = Durable=20 Goods report showed a gain of 3.3% while December's report was revised = down to=20 0.4% decline. A gain of only 1.3% had been expected for January. Biggest = gainer=20 was automotive, up over 10%.
 
New unemployment claims continued to rise, up = 417,000 for=20 the week, expected was a drop to 390K. The 4 week moving average = rose again=20 to 399,750 while continuing claims dropped slightly to 3.38 million from = 3.42=20 million.
 
In a prelude to next week's ISM manufacturing = production=20 report, the NAPM-Chicago report for February fell less than expected, to = 54.9=20 from 56. Expected was a drop to 52.5. Prices paid continued to rise = (don't=20 forget the spike in last month's PPI report) while the employment index = showed=20 layoffs continuing, but at a slower rate.
"M"
As I speculated on this topic last week, it was=20 questionable whether the two weeks of gains might be sustained. Now we = know, it=20 was not, another losing week and indexes struggling to stay in the = neighborhood=20 of their 20 day moving average. Charts look like we are just muddling = along,=20 going no where in particular, no leadership, money moving around but not = staying, volume remains light, lots of uncertainty yet not an avalanche = of=20 bearish sentiment either.  What breakouts do occur, even from = fundamentally=20 strong companies, also mostly fail quickly. The market pundits keep = suggesting=20 we will retest the October lows, so far I don't see evidence of that, = nor do I=20 see signs we are ready to start a sustained rally of any size. Economic = reports=20 this week were mixed at best, and did nothing to offset the bearish = reports of=20 last week. In particular, the data on new single family housing suggests = this=20 sector is finally slowing, even while existing housing remains strong. = The=20 builders may finally be ready for a correction, even tho past worries of = a=20 housing bubble have kept most from being overpriced. Iraq remains the = overriding=20 and compelling influence on all markets. Israel's market was up 2.5% in = Sunday=20 trading, I am sure a lot of that was due to Iraq destroying 4 (of over = 100) of=20 their missiles on Saturday, thus lowering the expectation of war just a = bit.=20 Until the issue of Iraq is resolved, I do not expect markets to reflect = their=20 fundamental nature, and right now the economic reports are simply not = strong=20 enough, any more than corporate earnings, to suggest the markets should = be=20 rallying even without the issue of Iraq.
JAPAN
The nomination of the new Governor for the Bank = of Japan=20 pleased few economists hoping for more radical efforts to shake Japan, = the=20 world's #2 economy, out of its third recession in a decade and end the = ongoing=20 deflationary cycle in which it finds itself. Conservative, "old guard",=20 Toshihiko Fukui will, however, be balanced by his two new Deputies = (Kazumasa=20 Iwata from the Cabinet Office, and Toshiro Muto, former Vice Finance = Minister),=20 who are expected to bring better connections with the government, as = well as=20 more aggressive and radical approaches to Japan's problems. The = compromise=20 appointments seem to this writer that change will only come about = rapidly and=20 radically if Fukui's appointment is purely face saving figure head, and = BOJ=20 policy will be set much more by the new deputies. The fiscal year for = everything=20 Japanese is now a month away, squaring up of the books, and writing off = of bad=20 loans, and marking bank investment portfolios down to actual market = value, could=20 get ugly quickly with the Nikkei having now given up all its recent = gains and=20 slid under 8400. The continuing uncertainty over war against Iraq will = continue=20 to weaken the US dollar and strengthen the yen, despite recent "stealth" = (please, how much stealth is there left in the financial world anymore?) = yen/dollar intervention by Japan. This hurts Japanese exporters and the = global=20 competitiveness of the pricing on their products. Domestic consumption = within=20 Japan continues to contract, further hurting companies needing to = increase=20 volume even if the deflation prevents raising prices. To date, I have = seen very=20 little action on either the govt plans to buy back loans and = rehabilitate the=20 borrowing company, or buying large chunks of the stock portfolios from = banks=20 needing to build their capital reserves. I see no hope for an economic = recovery=20 in Japan until such time as the banking industry begins an honest = assessment of=20 their non-performing loans, declare those in default to be in default, = and=20 either force the govt to begin buying those loans and rehabilitate the = company=20 where possible, or else the lending bank(s) force the company into = bankruptcy=20 and write off the loan. And yes, this will also force a number of banks = into=20 bankruptcy themselves, as their capital reserves, on paper, are = sufficient but=20 only because of phony bookkeeping. There must also be an end to the = cultural=20 practice of buying stock from the very companies they lend to, thus = adding to=20 the bank loss when the company fails. Ultimately, I suspect this will = take a new=20 regulation from the govt as it is so deeply imbedded in culture. = Unfortunately,=20 I have little hope of this ever happening unless and until the Nikkei = falls well=20 into the 7000 range, and takes bank portfolios so low that even with the = generous rules used now they still fail to meet capital requirements, = and=20 themselves fail.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST = WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any = stocks to=20 the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health = of=20 CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some = stocks=20 with constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from (and of = course doing=20 your own due diligence). I am employed = in=20 Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly=20 my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or = opinions of=20 my employer.
 
I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS = ranking of 80=20 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition = /=20 buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet = this general RS/EPS=20 criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I = consider all=20 industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal=20 investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings = forecast=20 for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due diligence, that is your = responsibility. I will=20 note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) = bottoms, or=20 flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also = note LLUR=20 (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely=20 are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due = size,=20 price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a = current=20 personal financial interest, whether real money or virtual reality=20 (VR).
 
The population of stocks I am reviewing this = weekend=20 continues to be meager and depressing, but in line with the reality of = new=20 highs, and even stocks moving above their 200 dma.
 
APOL - new handle forming?, volume = increasing
AVCT - continuation of a high = handle??
BHE - short term staircase
BLL - long handle on the cup
ELTE - flat base, in my VR Fund, low priced, low = liquidity, small cap
GAF - B7
GGP - LLUR
GIL - B8
HLTH - high handle
IMO - decent cup, nice fundies
IRM - b/o Friday on volume from a double=20 bottom
NSCN - LLUR, own and in my VR Fund, small = cap
PORT - LLUR
RBK - B5
REP - high handle
RVSN - 14 week c&h, volume drying up, low = priced, low=20 liquidity
 
Happy Hunting, and keep your powder=20 dry
 
3D""
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: = TexWorley
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy Date: 02 Mar 2003 10:35:57 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01C2E0A7.82DA73B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nancy, "your" YAHOO stock is in the news. Check out what the HGSI = (High Growth Stock Investor) folks have to say about it this week....... http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030221.pdf Great software, technical support and free weekly reports. =20 They have a free trial at = https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DQP2 regards, Gene P.S. No affiliation with HGSI/QP2 other than being a customer/user of = their software/data. ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01C2E0A7.82DA73B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Nancy, "your" YAHOO stock is in the = news.=20 Check out what the HGSI (High Growth Stock Investor) folks have to say = about it=20 this week.......

ht= tp://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030221.pdf

 
Great software, technical support and free weekly=20 reports.  
 
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regards,
Gene
 
P.S. No affiliation with HGSI/QP2 other than being a customer/user = of their=20 software/data.
------=_NextPart_000_0118_01C2E0A7.82DA73B0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Davellil5@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy Date: 02 Mar 2003 13:55:12 EST YHOO has a cup, a wild handle, and has made two attemps to get above 21, and met resistance both times. Look at the numbers. Yahoo is a turn-around situation. How many years into the future does the 115 P/E discount their projected EPS growth? Dave - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy Date: 02 Mar 2003 14:16:13 -0500 Dave, I don't disagree, however it didn't trade $220 million worth of stock on Friday from either retail orders, or speculation. And the short position for Feb was not that big (3.3 days). Major (big cap) institutionals want to own it, hence the volume and price spike. And it does show a 67% earnings growth this year, and another 40% on top of that for next year. Fund managers, and other institutionals, like those kind of numbers unless they are a pure value fund. On a weekly chart, the price spike on Friday clearly looks to me like a b/o on a double bottom just over the pivot (mid point of the "W") so the technical traders may be getting after it as well. Volume Friday did manage to beat ADV, but overall volume remains anemic, and signals a warning. But then overall volume in the markets is pretty anemic too. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 1:55 PM YHOO has a cup, a wild handle, and has made two attemps to get above 21, and met resistance both times. Look at the numbers. Yahoo is a turn-around situation. How many years into the future does the 115 P/E discount their projected EPS growth? Dave - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy Date: 02 Mar 2003 17:13:42 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E0DF.12FE9C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi gene-thanks ,appreciate you remembering. I have followed the emails of= HGSI for some time but thought it would be to complicated for me. Can y= ou let me know what you think in a couple of weeks. If you decided to joi= n or not. Also-does it let you follow money flow? Thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:40 AM Hi Nancy, "your" YAHOO stock is in the news. Check out what the HGSI (Hig= h Growth Stock Investor) folks have to say about it this week....... http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030221.pdf =20 Great software, technical support and free weekly reports. =20 They have a free trial at https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp= ?from=3DQP2 regards, Gene P.S. No affiliation with HGSI/QP2 other than being a customer/user of the= ir software/data. =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E0DF.12FE9C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi gene-thanks ,appreciate you rememberin= g. I have followed the emails of HGSI for some time but thought it w= ould be to complicated for me.  Can you let me know what you think i= n a couple of weeks. If you decided to join or not.  Also-does it le= t you follow money flow?  Thanks again.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:40 AM=
To: canslim@lists.xmission.= com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Is It= Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy
 
Hi Nancy, "your" YAHOO stock is in the news. Check out what= the HGSI (High Growth Stock Investor) folks have to say about it this we= ek.......

http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/200302= 21.pdf

 
Great software, technical support and free weekly reports.&nb= sp; 
 
 
regards,
Gene
 
P.S. No affiliation = with HGSI/QP2 other than being a customer/user of their software/data.
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E0DF.12FE9C00-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Davellil5@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy Date: 02 Mar 2003 18:25:02 EST Thanks, Tom. The P/E of 115 is of course the trailing P/E. I was aware of the projected EPS gains for this year and next. If those gains materialize, the PE would drop to around 50. I have no idea how solid those projections may be. The recent W is a secondary base formation after a healthy rise from the big breakout last October. And the volume of the latest breakout is nowhere near the volume of that earlier breakout. In this market, I'm very chicken about secondary bases. As they say, that's horseracing. Maybe this dialogue has been a litle useful to some of our CANSLIM buddies. Dave - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Fw: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy Date: 03 Mar 2003 00:26:40 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0516_01C2E11B.8F30ECB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nancy, I have been a subscriber to HGSI for 2 years.... allowed me to = cancel DGO early last year. =20 Seems like I can't turn around without finding Yahoo staring me in the = face. My DSL supplier SBC (Southwest Bell) has joined with Yahoo to = provide better DSL service.=20 =20 regards, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy hi gene-thanks ,appreciate you remembering. I have followed the emails = of HGSI for some time but thought it would be to complicated for me. = Can you let me know what you think in a couple of weeks. If you decided = to join or not. Also-does it let you follow money flow? Thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:40 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Is It Time To Buy Yahoo - Nancy Hi Nancy, "your" YAHOO stock is in the news. Check out what the HGSI = (High Growth Stock Investor) folks have to say about it this week....... http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030221.pdf =20 Great software, technical support and free weekly reports. =20 They have a free trial at = https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DQP2 regards, Gene P.S. No affiliation with HGSI/QP2 other than being a customer/user = of their software/data. ------=_NextPart_000_0516_01C2E11B.8F30ECB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Nancy, I have been a = subscriber to HGSI=20 for 2 years.... allowed me to cancel DGO early last=20 year.  
 
Seems like I can't turn = around without=20 finding Yahoo staring me in the face. My DSL supplier SBC (Southwest = Bell) has=20 joined with Yahoo to provide better DSL service.
 
 
 
regards,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 = 7:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Is It = Time To Buy=20 Yahoo - Nancy

hi gene-thanks ,appreciate you remembering. I have followed the = emails=20 of HGSI for some time but thought it would be to complicated for=20 me.  Can you let me know what you think in a couple of weeks. If = you=20 decided to join or not.  Also-does it let you follow money = flow? =20 Thanks again.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 = 8:40=20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Is It Time = To Buy=20 Yahoo - Nancy
 
Hi Nancy, "your" YAHOO stock is in = the news.=20 Check out what the HGSI (High Growth Stock Investor) folks have to = say about=20 it this week.......

ht= tp://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030221.pdf

 
Great software, technical support and free weekly=20 reports.  
 
They have a free trial at https= ://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DQP2
 
regards,
Gene
 
P.S. No affiliation with HGSI/QP2 other than being a = customer/user of=20 their software/data. =
------=_NextPart_000_0516_01C2E11B.8F30ECB0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-canslim@xmission.com (Jeff Salisbury) Subject: [CANSLIM] Accessing the discussion canslim archives... Date: 03 Mar 2003 08:00:01 -0700 From time to time, CANSLIM members may wish to browse the discussion archives. This posting provides instructions on how to access the archives. Thanks to David Cameron for compiling the essentials of this message. Here are the two ways to access the archives: 1. The best way is to use your web browser. To browse the archives, point your browser to: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/canslim/archive/ 2. (Not as convenient) via email: Send an email to majordomo@xmission.com with the following as the body of your message: "index canslim". Then send a follow up email to request an old email from either the "archive" or "latest" directory. Note that your request must be in the body of your email. For example: "get canslim latest/001" will retrieve file "001" from the "latest" directory. "get canslim archive/v01.n066" will retrieve file "v01.n066" from the "archive" dir. Best Regards, Jeff Salisbury - CANSLIM list owner/admin - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM List FAQ (Monthly Posting) Date: 03 Mar 2003 09:11:46 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2E164.EAA3AE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This FAQ is also available at: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc or http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.zip (zipped version for those who are having trouble displaying the document within their browser) Scope of discussion, Etiquette: Here are a couple of quotes from the welcome email that Jeff Salisbury, the list owner and host, sends to each new member: "This is an unmoderated discussion group whose purpose is to provide a forum for individuals to: 1.. Discuss the ideas and concepts of CANSLIM. 2.. Add to the concepts of CANSLIM from personal experience. 3.. Exchange sources of information on the internet and software that can be used to select stocks using the CANSLIM methodology. 4.. Discuss specific equities and how they may or may not meet the CANSLIM criteria. " "Anyone who resorts to rudeness, flaming, and personal attacks will be removed from our group." “By signing up for this list, you agree to the following: This list is a private list. All information that you take from this list is for your private use only. Commercial use of this information is forbidden.” Commonly used (misc) abbreviations: BO or B/O = Breakout DD= Due Diligence dMA = days Moving Average (a simple moving average unless otherwise specified) FTD = Follow Through Day http://www.market-tester.com/primer.htm HTMMIS = "How to Make Money in Stocks" by William J. O'Neil IBD = Investors Business Daily (www.investors.com) IMHO = In My Humble Opinion sometimes used as IMO or JMO or my $0.02 LOL = Laughing Out Loud M = Market ( the "M" in CANSLIM) MA = Moving Average N = New (the "N" in CANSLIM) VR = Virtual Reality fund (Fund where “everything’s real except the money”…see www.marketocracy.com) WON = William O'Neil, originator of CANSLIM IBD/CANSLIM Proprietary Rankings: A/D = Accumulation/Distribution EPS = Earnings per Share Rank GRS = Group Relative Strength RS = Relative Strength SMR = Sales/Margins/ROE Comp = Composite Ranking Accounting/Finance Abbreviations: BS or B/S = Balance Sheet cflo = Cash Flow D/E = Debt to Equity IS or I/S = Income Statement PE or P/E = Price to Earnings ratio Pro Forma earnings = http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/proforma12-4.htm Accounting 101: http://uoutperform.com/New_Folder/fundamental_analysis.htm http://www.investopedia.com/university/fundamentalanalysis/ http://www.WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/Accounting101.doc Commonly discussed technical patterns: 2B=Double Bottoms A Base = Ascending Base C&H or CwH = Cup and Handle (http://www.cwhcharts.com/WON_cwh.htm.) FB=Flat Base HTF = High Tight Flag LLUR = Lower Left Upper Right (a stock on the rise, channeling in a tight range) For general discussion of chart patterns: http://stockcharts.com/education/What/ChartAnalysis/index.html Commonly discussed software/tools: AAII Stock Investor Pro http://www.aaii.com/ - money back guarantee DGO= DailyGraphs Online ( www.dailygraphs.com ) – 7 day trial $19.95 HGSI = High Growth Stock Investing (www.highgrowthstock.com) – 60 day paid trial $49 QP2 = Quotes Plus (www.qp2.com) TC2000 = Worden Brothers TC2000 technical analysis software (http://www.tc2000.com) -30 day free trial VV= VectorVest (www.vectorvest.com) – 5 week trial $9.95 If you are new to CANSLIM investing (or just need a refresher): Take advantage of the excellent learning center at the IBD site-- www.investors.com/learn Free sites for stock scanning: http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/finder/predefstocks.asp http://www.marketguide.com/screen/SScreen.asp http://cbs.marketwatch.com/tools/stockresearch/screener/ Free sites for charting: www.stockcharts.com www.bigcharts.com http://www.moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=csco Due diligence sites: Company's web site http://biz.yahoo.com/p/c/csco.html http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/newsnap.asp?Symbol=CSCO www.cwhcharts.com/canslim (limited to 5 stocks per person per day) www.investors.com (Requires subscription-look for the stock checkup feature) http://my.zacks.com/reports/reports.php3?HLITE1=6699BC&HLITE2=DEDEC5&ticker=SBUX &session=TMP.JEFFREY&type=100 (This is the “Whole Enchilada” report) Free sites for viewing industry information: http://host.wallstreetcity.com/wsc2/Industry_Group_Report.html http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/industry/bigcharts-com/ Free resources for real time tracking: www.quotetracker.com Tools provided by members: -CANSLIM Evaluator provided by Mike Gibbons: A tool that evaluates a stock against each of the CANSLIM criteria except M. (http://www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) -Charts for CANSLIM provided by Mike Gibbons: A straightforward chart showing the price/volume action, pivots, % off 52 wk high, RS Line relative to the S&P500, RS Rank plotted over time, U/D ratio over time. Displays daily for 3, 6, 9, or 12 months (daily) or 1, 2 or 3 years (weekly). Updated with delayed intraday pricing as well. (http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php) -CANSLIMLinks provided by Katherine Malm: An Excel spreadsheet that contains macros for creating links to sites useful for evaluating CANSLIM stocks. Allows you to list stocks of your choosing. Full functionality only available with Excel 2000 for Windows. Limited functionality in prior versions. (http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMLinksAutomated.zip) -Favorite Resources provided by Katherine Malm: A Word document listing various sites I find useful in CANSLIM investing. (http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/FavoriteResourcesKM.doc) List FAQ compiled by Katherine Malm. If you have suggestions for additions and/or revisions, please contact me at kmalm@earthlink.net Rev 2/4/03 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2E164.EAA3AE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This FAQ is also available at: = http://WallStre= et-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc=20 or  http://Wall= Street-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.zip=20 (zipped version for those who are having trouble displaying the document = within=20 their browser)

 

Scope of=20 discussion, Etiquette:

Here are a = couple=20 of quotes from the welcome email that Jeff Salisbury, the list = owner and=20 host, sends to each new member:

 

"This is an = unmoderated=20 discussion group whose purpose is to provide a forum for individuals to: =

  1. Discuss=20 the ideas and concepts of CANSLIM.
  2. Add=20 to the concepts of CANSLIM from personal experience.
  3. Exchange=20 sources of information on the internet and software that can be used = to select=20 stocks using the CANSLIM methodology.
  4. Discuss=20 specific equities and how they may or may not meet the CANSLIM=20 criteria. "

"Anyone who resorts to rudeness, flaming, and personal attacks will = be=20 removed from our group."

=93By signing up for this list, you agree to the following:  = This list is=20 a private list.  All information that you take from this list is = for your=20 private use only.  Commercial use of this information is = forbidden.=94

Commonly used = (misc)=20 abbreviations:

BO or B/O =3D = Breakout

DD=3D Due = Diligence

dMA =3D days Moving = Average (a=20 simple moving average unless otherwise specified)

FTD =3D Follow = Through Day http://www.market-tester= .com/primer.htm

HTMMIS =3D "How to = Make Money in=20 Stocks" by William J. O'Neil

IBD =3D Investors = Business=20 Daily  (www.investors.com)

IMHO =3D In My Humble = Opinion=20 sometimes used as IMO or JMO or my $0.02

LOL =3D Laughing Out = Loud

M =3D Market ( the = "M" in=20 CANSLIM)

MA =3D Moving = Average

N =3D New (the "N" in = CANSLIM)

VR =3D = Virtual=20 Reality fund (Fund where =93everything=92s real except the = money=94=85see=20 www.marketocracy.com)

WON =3D William = O'Neil, originator=20 of CANSLIM

 

IBD/CANSLIM = Proprietary=20 Rankings:

A/D =3D=20 Accumulation/Distribution

EPS =3D Earnings per = Share Rank

GRS =3D Group = Relative Strength

RS =3D Relative = Strength

SMR =3D = Sales/Margins/ROE

Comp =3D Composite = Ranking

 

Accounting/Finance=20 Abbreviations:

BS or B/S =3D Balance = Sheet

cflo =3D Cash = Flow

D/E =3D Debt to = Equity

IS or I/S =3D Income = Statement

PE or P/E =3D Price = to Earnings=20 ratio

Pro Forma earnings = =3D http://www.sec= .gov/investor/pubs/proforma12-4.htm

 

Accounting = 101:

http:= //uoutperform.com/New_Folder/fundamental_analysis.htm
http= ://www.investopedia.com/university/fundamentalanalysis/
http://w= ww.WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/Accounting101.doc

 

Commonly = discussed technical=20 patterns:

2B=3DDouble=20 Bottoms

A Base =3D Ascending = Base

C&H or CwH =3D = Cup and=20 Handle  (http://www.cwhcharts.com/WO= N_cwh.htm.)

FB=3DFlat Base

HTF =3D High Tight = Flag

LLUR =3D Lower Left = Upper=20 Right (a stock on the rise, channeling in a tight range)

For general = discussion of chart=20 patterns: h= ttp://stockcharts.com/education/What/ChartAnalysis/index.html<= /P>

 

Commonly = discussed=20 software/tools:

AAII Stock Investor = Pro http://www.aaii.com/ - money back = guarantee

DGO=3D DailyGraphs=20 Online  ( www.dailygraphs.com ) =96 = 7 day trial=20 $19.95

HGSI =3D High Growth = Stock=20 Investing (www.highgrowthstock.com) = =96 60 day=20 paid trial $49

QP2 =3D Quotes Plus = (www.qp2.com)

TC2000 =3D  = Worden Brothers=20 TC2000 technical analysis software (http://www.tc2000.com) -30 day free=20 trial

VV=3D VectorVest (www.vectorvest.com) =96 5 week = trial=20 $9.95

 

If you are new to = CANSLIM=20 investing (or just need a refresher):

Take advantage of the = excellent=20 learning center at the IBD site-- www.investors.com/learn

 

Free sites for = stock=20 scanning:

htt= p://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/finder/predefstocks.asp

http://www.marketg= uide.com/screen/SScreen.asp

http://= cbs.marketwatch.com/tools/stockresearch/screener/

 

Free sites for=20 charting:

www.stockcharts.com

www.bigcharts.com

http://www.moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?S= ymbol=3Dcsco

 

Due diligence = sites:

Company's web = site

http://biz.yahoo.com/p/c/csco= .html

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/newsnap.asp?Symbol=3D= CSCO

www.cwhcharts.com/canslim = (limited=20 to 5 stocks per person per day)

www.investors.com (Requires=20 subscription-look for the stock checkup feature)

h= ttp://my.zacks.com/reports/reports.php3?HLITE1=3D6699BC&HLITE2=3DDEDE= C5&ticker=3DSBUX&session=3DTMP.JEFFREY&type=3D100=20 (This is the =93Whole Enchilada=94 report)

 

Free sites=20 for viewing industry information:

h= ttp://host.wallstreetcity.com/wsc2/Industry_Group_Report.html

http://= bigcharts.marketwatch.com/industry/bigcharts-com/

 

Free resources = for real time=20 tracking:

www.quotetracker.com

 

Tools provided by = members:

-CANSLIM Evaluator = provided by=20 Mike Gibbons: A tool that evaluates a stock against each of the CANSLIM = criteria=20 except M. (http://www.cwhcharts.com/cansli= m)

-Charts for = CANSLIM provided=20 by Mike Gibbons: A straightforward chart showing the price/volume = action,=20 pivots, % off 52 wk high, RS Line relative to the S&P500, RS Rank = plotted=20 over time, U/D ratio over time. Displays daily for 3, 6, 9, or 12 months = (daily)=20 or 1, 2 or 3 years (weekly). Updated with delayed intraday pricing as = well. (http://www.cwhcharts= .com/charts/kmchart.php)

-CANSLIMLinks = provided by=20 Katherine Malm: An Excel spreadsheet that contains macros for creating = links to=20 sites useful for evaluating CANSLIM stocks. Allows you to list stocks of = your=20 choosing. Full functionality only available with Excel 2000 for Windows. = Limited=20 functionality in prior versions. (htt= p://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMLinksAutomated.zip)

-Favorite Resources = provided by=20 Katherine Malm: A Word document listing various sites I find useful in = CANSLIM=20 investing. (http:/= /WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/FavoriteResourcesKM.doc)

 

 

List FAQ compiled by = Katherine=20 Malm. If you have suggestions for additions and/or revisions, please = contact me=20 at kmalm@earthlink.net

Rev=20 2/4/03

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2E164.EAA3AE90-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] SYMC Date: 03 Mar 2003 09:29:22 -0600 Sometime I really hate the stockmarket! I was in on SYMC, and was on a 5% profit, when suddenly I noticed Friday that it started to tank, big time. I scrambled to find out why, and it turns out that the CC was not viewed well. I waited it out, hoping that it would get no worst than a 10% loss, but when it hit that point, and looked like it was going to keep moving down, I bailed out. Of course, it did go a bit lower, then moved up a bit, but ended up down large for the day. Of course, this morning, at open, it gapped up 4%. Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me out of a situation like this? Or is this a case where you sell out of a position because of the sell rules, but then get back in later? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Lobatto" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC Date: 03 Mar 2003 11:30:26 -0500 Mike, I know this isn't particularly what you want to hear, but "M" is just plain lousy and the overwhelming percentage of the few stocks that manage a breakout, proceed to breakdown. Of course there are a few stocks that do manage to make consistent highs and it's tempting when seeing those to assume it's just a question of doing better homework or tinkering with CANSLIM rules a bit to find the next one, but the odds are overwhelmingly against it in this market environment. There are some foreign stocks (e.g. China & Argentina) that are quite strong and I raised the issue of trying to apply CANSLIM to them a couple of weeks ago, but it was not greeted with much enthusiasm which I fully understand. Jon ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:29 AM > Sometime I really hate the stockmarket! I was in on SYMC, and was on a 5% > profit, when suddenly I noticed Friday that it started to tank, big time. I > scrambled to find out why, and it turns out that the CC was not viewed > well. I waited it out, hoping that it would get no worst than a 10% loss, > but when it hit that point, and looked like it was going to keep moving > down, I bailed out. Of course, it did go a bit lower, then moved up a bit, > but ended up down large for the day. Of course, this morning, at open, it > gapped up 4%. > > Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me out of a situation like > this? Or is this a case where you sell out of a position because of the > sell rules, but then get back in later? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC Date: 03 Mar 2003 11:03:15 -0600 Jon I appreciate the response, and I do agree with you. I guess I tend to be too aggressive, and part of my CANSLIM learning is to be more disciplined. I think SYMC is a good stock, but maybe I did not buy at the right time, but when you get a 15% drop in one day because of a conference call, it seems like NO system would protect against that, except for hard stop orders being placed. Maybe that is what I will take away from this, after entering a position, immediately put in the 8% stop loss order, just in case. Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Jonathan Lobatto" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC ission.com 03/03/2003 10:30 AM Please respond to canslim Mike, I know this isn't particularly what you want to hear, but "M" is just plain lousy and the overwhelming percentage of the few stocks that manage a breakout, proceed to breakdown. Of course there are a few stocks that do manage to make consistent highs and it's tempting when seeing those to assume it's just a question of doing better homework or tinkering with CANSLIM rules a bit to find the next one, but the odds are overwhelmingly against it in this market environment. There are some foreign stocks (e.g. China & Argentina) that are quite strong and I raised the issue of trying to apply CANSLIM to them a couple of weeks ago, but it was not greeted with much enthusiasm which I fully understand. Jon ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:29 AM > Sometime I really hate the stockmarket! I was in on SYMC, and was on a 5% > profit, when suddenly I noticed Friday that it started to tank, big time. I > scrambled to find out why, and it turns out that the CC was not viewed > well. I waited it out, hoping that it would get no worst than a 10% loss, > but when it hit that point, and looked like it was going to keep moving > down, I bailed out. Of course, it did go a bit lower, then moved up a bit, > but ended up down large for the day. Of course, this morning, at open, it > gapped up 4%. > > Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me out of a situation like > this? Or is this a case where you sell out of a position because of the > sell rules, but then get back in later? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fanus Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC Date: 03 Mar 2003 09:05:13 -0800 (PST) --- michael_niemotka@baxter.com wrote: Mike Yes, the M in CANSLIM would have kept you out of it. Regards - Fanus > Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me > out of a situation like > this? Or is this a case where you sell out of a > position because of the > sell rules, but then get back in later? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Lobatto" Subject: [CANSLIM] Foreign Indices (off-topic) Date: 03 Mar 2003 12:17:52 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C2E17E.E9D87080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forgive the off-topic query, but since this board has some of the most = helpful, not to mention knowledgeable folks collected in one virtual = community, I'm wondering if anyone knows a site or link for either = charts or performance data on foreign stock indices adjusted in US = dollar terms. In other words, an index may be up 100% annually in local = currency, but actually down 25% adjusted back to US dollars.I'm hoping = there's a site out there that tracks this. Thanks. Jon ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C2E17E.E9D87080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Forgive the off-topic query, = but since=20 this board has some of the most helpful, not to mention knowledgeable = folks=20 collected in one virtual community, I'm wondering if anyone knows a = site or=20 link for either charts or performance data on foreign stock indices=20 adjusted in US dollar terms. In other words, an index may be up = 100%=20 annually in local currency, but actually down 25% adjusted back to = US=20 dollars.I'm hoping there's a site out there that tracks this.=20 Thanks.
 
Jon
------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C2E17E.E9D87080-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Katona" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] SYMC Date: 03 Mar 2003 09:27:16 -0800 Mike, I had a similar situation with FIC in January 2002. I think it dropped -24% in one day and it was my biggest loss for the year. I got out at about -15%. Since that experience, as soon as I get confirmation of a buy order I immediately put in a stop sell order at -6% to -8% below my total cost. When the market was acting well I've put in stop limit orders with stop at -5.75% and limit at -6% (or -7.75% and -8%). It does has the risk of blowing past my limit so in this kind of choppy market I use only stop sell orders at -6%. If the market tanks or the price/volume is not acting well I get out at -3%. A good defense is definitely needed. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:03 AM Jon I appreciate the response, and I do agree with you. I guess I tend to be too aggressive, and part of my CANSLIM learning is to be more disciplined. I think SYMC is a good stock, but maybe I did not buy at the right time, but when you get a 15% drop in one day because of a conference call, it seems like NO system would protect against that, except for hard stop orders being placed. Maybe that is what I will take away from this, after entering a position, immediately put in the 8% stop loss order, just in case. Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Jonathan Lobatto" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC ission.com 03/03/2003 10:30 AM Please respond to canslim Mike, I know this isn't particularly what you want to hear, but "M" is just plain lousy and the overwhelming percentage of the few stocks that manage a breakout, proceed to breakdown. Of course there are a few stocks that do manage to make consistent highs and it's tempting when seeing those to assume it's just a question of doing better homework or tinkering with CANSLIM rules a bit to find the next one, but the odds are overwhelmingly against it in this market environment. There are some foreign stocks (e.g. China & Argentina) that are quite strong and I raised the issue of trying to apply CANSLIM to them a couple of weeks ago, but it was not greeted with much enthusiasm which I fully understand. Jon ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:29 AM > Sometime I really hate the stockmarket! I was in on SYMC, and was on a 5% > profit, when suddenly I noticed Friday that it started to tank, big time. I > scrambled to find out why, and it turns out that the CC was not viewed > well. I waited it out, hoping that it would get no worst than a 10% loss, > but when it hit that point, and looked like it was going to keep moving > down, I bailed out. Of course, it did go a bit lower, then moved up a bit, > but ended up down large for the day. Of course, this morning, at open, it > gapped up 4%. > > Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me out of a situation like > this? Or is this a case where you sell out of a position because of the > sell rules, but then get back in later? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC Date: 03 Mar 2003 22:00:28 -0500 Mike, on 11/4/02 I started buying stocks on margin, six in total so far. Five of them are internet / computer security related (the longer term members would rightfully guess that the sixth one is EPIQ for my sixth ride). This was my first ever venture into overweighing a single sector, in fact only the first time I actively invested on the basis of sector orientation. While I did not buy SYMC (too large and high priced for my style), it was also looking pretty good at the time. Don't blame the conference call for the gap down, blame Management for having beaten earnings expectations only to turn around and warn that the current qtr was expected to be below expectations. I don't know if they cannibalized some of the current qtr business to load up the last qtr to make / beat expectations, or if this is simply how the business is shaping up. Either way, the market reacted (like it should) to the forward looking comments, and gapped down. How could you avoid the gap? Well, certainly one way as already pointed out was to comply with the ugly "M" and stay in cash. A second alternative is to just take small profits when you can, but they will not likely offset a gap down like this that you couldn't see coming. Get burnt once, and it likely wipes out all the small gains. Chart wise, it doesn't look to me like there was a clear exit signal. Looks kinda range bound just waiting for a reason to go in one direction or another until the gap down. Volume was below average, but then so are most stocks right now. If anything, volume was lighter on the down days than the up days. And RS was rising right before the gap down. Even in hindsight, I don't see a warning in the chart. The only other indication I could suggest (from the perspective of my personal holdings) is that the entire sector seemed to me to be weakening in the past several weeks. I had several major gap down events in my little universe, and they all hurt. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:03 PM Jon I appreciate the response, and I do agree with you. I guess I tend to be too aggressive, and part of my CANSLIM learning is to be more disciplined. I think SYMC is a good stock, but maybe I did not buy at the right time, but when you get a 15% drop in one day because of a conference call, it seems like NO system would protect against that, except for hard stop orders being placed. Maybe that is what I will take away from this, after entering a position, immediately put in the 8% stop loss order, just in case. Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Jonathan Lobatto" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC ission.com 03/03/2003 10:30 AM Please respond to canslim Mike, I know this isn't particularly what you want to hear, but "M" is just plain lousy and the overwhelming percentage of the few stocks that manage a breakout, proceed to breakdown. Of course there are a few stocks that do manage to make consistent highs and it's tempting when seeing those to assume it's just a question of doing better homework or tinkering with CANSLIM rules a bit to find the next one, but the odds are overwhelmingly against it in this market environment. There are some foreign stocks (e.g. China & Argentina) that are quite strong and I raised the issue of trying to apply CANSLIM to them a couple of weeks ago, but it was not greeted with much enthusiasm which I fully understand. Jon ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:29 AM > Sometime I really hate the stockmarket! I was in on SYMC, and was on a 5% > profit, when suddenly I noticed Friday that it started to tank, big time. I > scrambled to find out why, and it turns out that the CC was not viewed > well. I waited it out, hoping that it would get no worst than a 10% loss, > but when it hit that point, and looked like it was going to keep moving > down, I bailed out. Of course, it did go a bit lower, then moved up a bit, > but ended up down large for the day. Of course, this morning, at open, it > gapped up 4%. > > Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me out of a situation like > this? Or is this a case where you sell out of a position because of the > sell rules, but then get back in later? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Date: 03 Mar 2003 19:35:54 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_sBJxdbjk1g3NM1LnY8w/6A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I don't have an IBD in front of me, but ... if OVTI has an RS between 10 and 30, something has gone terribly wrong. Personally, I would not buy it here with such a steep 1-month rise to reach its old high (in fact, a short near $20 with a very tight stop offers compelling risk/reward for a short-term trade). However, the stock has done remarkably well all year, albeit in a volatile fashion. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Eric, with RS ranging from 10 to 30, and the charts that they each have, I would call this bottom fishing rather than CANSLIM. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Jaenike To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Notable strength and resistance clearing in SMH, IDTI, SMTC. "Edward W. Gjertsen II" wrote: Any comments on OVTI? Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AMI Tom: Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in all literature has ever had such significance)! jans In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right in front of the word "Former". >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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I don't have an IBD in front of me, but ... if OVTI has an RS between 10 and 30, something has gone terribly wrong. Personally, I would not buy it here with such a steep 1-month rise to reach its old high (in fact, a short near $20 with a very tight stop offers compelling risk/reward for a short-term trade). However, the stock has done remarkably well all year, albeit in a volatile fashion.
 
Ian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI

Eric, with RS ranging from 10 to 30, and the charts that they each have, I would call this bottom fishing rather than CANSLIM.
 
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI

Notable strength and resistance clearing in SMH, IDTI, SMTC.

 "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <ed@macktracks.com> wrote:

Any comments on OVTI?


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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AMI

Tom:

Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in
all
literature has ever had such significance)!

jans


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<< You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right in
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--Boundary_(ID_sBJxdbjk1g3NM1LnY8w/6A)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC Date: 03 Mar 2003 22:08:16 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C2E1D1.64063CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, I picked this up tonight, probably explains the early rally: Software maker Symantec (SYMC), +2.85% at 42.03, has been upgraded by = UBS Warburg to "buy" from "neutral." Being the suspicious person that I am, it's curious they would come out = with an upgrade just now. Wonder if UBS has an investment banking = relationship with them? ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:00 PM Mike, on 11/4/02 I started buying stocks on margin, six in total so far. Five of them are internet / computer security related (the longer term members would rightfully guess that the sixth one is EPIQ for my sixth ride). This was my first ever venture into overweighing a single = sector, in fact only the first time I actively invested on the basis of sector orientation. While I did not buy SYMC (too large and high priced for my style), it = was also looking pretty good at the time. Don't blame the conference call for the gap down, blame Management for having beaten earnings expectations only to turn around and warn that = the current qtr was expected to be below expectations. I don't know if they cannibalized some of the current qtr business to load up the last qtr to make / beat expectations, or if this is simply how the business is = shaping up. Either way, the market reacted (like it should) to the forward = looking comments, and gapped down. How could you avoid the gap? Well, certainly one way as already pointed = out was to comply with the ugly "M" and stay in cash. A second alternative = is to just take small profits when you can, but they will not likely offset a = gap down like this that you couldn't see coming. Get burnt once, and it = likely wipes out all the small gains. Chart wise, it doesn't look to me like = there was a clear exit signal. Looks kinda range bound just waiting for a = reason to go in one direction or another until the gap down. Volume was below average, but then so are most stocks right now. If anything, volume was lighter on the down days than the up days. And RS was rising right = before the gap down. Even in hindsight, I don't see a warning in the chart. The only other indication I could suggest (from the perspective of my personal holdings) is that the entire sector seemed to me to be = weakening in the past several weeks. I had several major gap down events in my little universe, and they all hurt. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:03 PM Jon I appreciate the response, and I do agree with you. I guess I tend to = be too aggressive, and part of my CANSLIM learning is to be more = disciplined. I think SYMC is a good stock, but maybe I did not buy at the right time, but when you get a 15% drop in one day because of a conference call, it seems like NO system would protect against that, except for hard stop orders being placed. Maybe that is what I will take away from this, = after entering a position, immediately put in the 8% stop loss order, just in case. Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Jonathan Lobatto" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM] SYMC ission.com 03/03/2003 10:30 AM Please respond to canslim Mike, I know this isn't particularly what you want to hear, but "M" is just = plain lousy and the overwhelming percentage of the few stocks that manage a breakout, proceed to breakdown. Of course there are a few stocks that do manage to make consistent highs and it's tempting when seeing those to assume it's just a question of doing better homework or tinkering with CANSLIM rules a bit to find the next one, but the odds are = overwhelmingly against it in this market environment. There are some foreign stocks = (e.g. China & Argentina) that are quite strong and I raised the issue of = trying to apply CANSLIM to them a couple of weeks ago, but it was not greeted with much enthusiasm which I fully understand. Jon ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:29 AM > Sometime I really hate the stockmarket! I was in on SYMC, and was on = a 5% > profit, when suddenly I noticed Friday that it started to tank, big = time. I > scrambled to find out why, and it turns out that the CC was not viewed > well. I waited it out, hoping that it would get no worst than a 10% = loss, > but when it hit that point, and looked like it was going to keep = moving > down, I bailed out. Of course, it did go a bit lower, then moved up a bit, > but ended up down large for the day. Of course, this morning, at = open, it > gapped up 4%. > > Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me out of a situation like > this? Or is this a case where you sell out of a position because of = the > sell rules, but then get back in later? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Mike, I picked this up tonight, probably = explains the=20 early rally:
Software maker Symantec = (SYMC), +2.85% at 42.03, has been upgraded by UBS Warburg to "buy" = from=20 "neutral."
 
Being the suspicious person that I am, it's = curious they=20 would come out with an upgrade just now. Wonder if UBS has an investment = banking=20 relationship with them?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:00 = PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SYMC

Mike, on = 11/4/02 I=20 started buying stocks on margin, six in total so far.
Five of them = are=20 internet / computer security related (the longer term
members would=20 rightfully guess that the sixth one is EPIQ for my sixth
ride).  = This=20 was my first ever venture into overweighing a single sector, in
fact = only the=20 first time I actively invested on the basis of=20 sector
orientation.

While I did not buy SYMC (too large and = high=20 priced for my style), it was
also looking pretty good at the=20 time.

Don't blame the conference call for the gap down, blame = Management=20 for
having beaten earnings expectations only to turn around and warn = that=20 the
current qtr was expected to be below expectations. I don't know = if=20 they
cannibalized some of the current qtr business to load up the = last qtr=20 to
make / beat expectations, or if this is simply how the business is = shaping
up. Either way, the market reacted (like it should) to the = forward=20 looking
comments, and gapped down.

How could you avoid the = gap? Well,=20 certainly one way as already pointed out
was to comply with the ugly = "M" and=20 stay in cash. A second alternative is to
just take small profits when = you=20 can, but they will not likely offset a gap
down like this that you = couldn't=20 see coming. Get burnt once, and it likely
wipes out all the small = gains.=20 Chart wise, it doesn't look to me like there
was a clear exit signal. = Looks=20 kinda range bound just waiting for a reason
to go in one direction or = another=20 until the gap down. Volume was below
average, but then so are most = stocks=20 right now. If anything, volume was
lighter on the down days than the = up days.=20 And RS was rising right before
the gap down. Even in hindsight, I = don't see a=20 warning in the chart.

The only other indication I could suggest = (from the=20 perspective of my
personal holdings) is that the entire sector seemed = to me=20 to be weakening in
the past several weeks. I had several major gap = down=20 events in my little
universe, and they all hurt.

----- = Original=20 Message -----
From: <michael_niemotka@baxter.com>
To:=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent:=20 Monday, March 03, 2003 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 SYMC



Jon

I appreciate the response, and I do agree = with=20 you.  I guess I tend to be
too aggressive, and part of my = CANSLIM=20 learning is to be more disciplined.
I think SYMC is a good stock, but = maybe I=20 did not buy at the right time,
but when you get a 15% drop in one day = because=20 of a conference call, it
seems like NO system would protect against = that,=20 except for hard stop
orders being placed.  Maybe that is what I = will=20 take away from this, after
entering a position, immediately put in = the 8%=20 stop loss order, just in
case.

Mike




Mike = Niemotka ,=20 PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route = 120 &=20 Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847)=20 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com



          =          =20 "Jonathan=20 Lobatto"
          &= nbsp;        =20 <jlobatto@nyc.rr.com>         = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com
          =          =20 Sent=20 by:           &nbs= p;         =20 cc:
           =         =20 owner-canslim@lists.xm       =20 [CANSLIM]
SYMC
        &nbs= p;          =20 ission.com


        &nb= sp;          =20 03/03/2003 10:30=20 AM
           &= nbsp;       =20 Please respond=20 to

          &nb= sp;        =20 canslim






Mike,

I know this isn't = particularly=20 what you want to hear, but "M" is just plain
lousy and the = overwhelming=20 percentage of the few stocks that manage a
breakout, proceed to = breakdown. Of=20 course there are a few stocks that do
manage to make consistent highs = and=20 it's tempting when seeing those to
assume it's just a question of = doing=20 better homework or tinkering with
CANSLIM rules a bit to find the = next one,=20 but the odds are overwhelmingly
against it in this market = environment. There=20 are some foreign stocks (e.g.
China & Argentina) that are quite = strong=20 and I raised the issue of trying
to
apply CANSLIM to them a couple = of=20 weeks ago, but it was not greeted with
much enthusiasm which I fully=20 understand.

Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: = <michael_niemotka@baxter.com>
To:=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent:=20 Monday, March 03, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] = SYMC


>=20 Sometime I really hate the stockmarket!   I was in on SYMC, = and was on=20 a
5%
> profit, when suddenly I noticed Friday that it started = to tank,=20 big time.
I
> scrambled to find out why, and it turns out that = the CC=20 was not viewed
> well. I waited it out, hoping that it would get = no worst=20 than a 10% loss,
> but when it hit that point, and looked like it = was=20 going to keep moving
> down, I bailed out.  Of course, it did = go a=20 bit lower, then moved up a
bit,
> but ended up down large for = the=20 day.  Of course, this morning, at open,
it
> gapped up=20 4%.
>
> Is there anything within CANSLIM that would keep me = out of a=20 situation
like
> this? Or is this a case where you sell out of = a=20 position because of the
> sell rules, but then get back in=20 later?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> Mike = Niemotka=20 , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare=20 Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL=20 60073
> Tel (847) 270-4075
> Fax (847) 270-4525
> = michael_niemotka@baxter.com
>
>
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ian
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI

I don't have an IBD in front of me, but ... if OVTI = has an RS=20 between 10 and 30, something has gone terribly wrong. Personally, I = would not=20 buy it here with such a steep 1-month rise to reach its old high (in = fact, a=20 short near $20 with a very tight stop offers compelling risk/reward for = a=20 short-term trade). However, the stock has done remarkably well all year, = albeit=20 in a volatile fashion.
 
Ian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 = 3:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = OVTI

Eric, with RS ranging from 10 to 30, and the = charts that=20 they each have, I would call this bottom fishing rather than=20 CANSLIM.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Eric=20 Jaenike
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI

Notable strength and resistance clearing in SMH, IDTI, SMTC.=20

 "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <ed@macktracks.com> = wrote:=20 Any=20 comments on OVTI?


Ed Gjertsen II
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Tom:

Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if = the=20 word"former" in
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 03 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I can pick just value stocks. Any ideas? Thanks for your help Sonnie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 04 Mar 2003 04:00:57 +0000 Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM >From: "Tom Worley" >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I can >pick just value stocks. > >Any ideas? > >Thanks for your help > >Sonnie > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 03 Mar 2003 23:05:56 -0500 understood. In that case, one criteria if you are using it is market cap. Keep it low, as I find most good value with still good CANSLIM criteria are small caps and some mid caps. That also means keeping any screening criteria for ADV low (50,000 shares daily or even less). Also any lower price threshold for screening should be the lower teens or lower. Some of the best value is found in the unknown stocks, but that means being patient and waiting for them to be "discovered" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:00 PM Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM >From: "Tom Worley" >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I can >pick just value stocks. > >Any ideas? > >Thanks for your help > >Sonnie > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 03 Mar 2003 22:15:43 -0600 Hi Sonnie, The idea of any value strategy is to look for a measure of "value" relative to the current stock price. That could be price to book value, intrinsic value, sales, cash flow, etc. CANSLIM doesn't rely on any of these comparisons of future earnings to current price, instead relying on technical action to indicate future expectations. Best you'd be able to do is to take the fundamental growth requirements of a CANSLIM stock and then add to that meaningful measures of value to find candidates. Both the MSN MoneyCentral site and the AAII site have scans and discussions of that approach. Good luck trying a value strategy... even Buffett said in his most recent annual letter to shareholders that "[d]espite three years of falling prices, which have significantly improved the attractiveness of common stocks, we still find very few that even mildly interest us." (http://www.fortune.com/fortune/investing/articles/0,15114,427758,00.html) Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sonnie Oratokhai Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:01 PM Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM >From: "Tom Worley" >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I can >pick just value stocks. > >Any ideas? > >Thanks for your help > >Sonnie > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maria McAdams" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Date: 03 Mar 2003 22:17:45 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C2E1D2.B793E560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable curious, tks mlmc ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI sorry for the confusion, I was referring to Ed's three picks, should = have changed the subject line ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ian=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI I don't have an IBD in front of me, but ... if OVTI has an RS between = 10 and 30, something has gone terribly wrong. Personally, I would not = buy it here with such a steep 1-month rise to reach its old high (in = fact, a short near $20 with a very tight stop offers compelling = risk/reward for a short-term trade). However, the stock has done = remarkably well all year, albeit in a volatile fashion. Ian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Eric, with RS ranging from 10 to 30, and the charts that they each = have, I would call this bottom fishing rather than CANSLIM. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Eric Jaenike=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI Notable strength and resistance clearing in SMH, IDTI, SMTC.=20 "Edward W. Gjertsen II" wrote:=20 Any comments on OVTI? Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any = attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, = use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the = intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy = all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of = Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AMI Tom: Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in all=20 literature has ever had such significance)! jans In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming = right in front of the word "Former". >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. --- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C2E1D2.B793E560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
curious, tks mlmc
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 = 9:10=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = OVTI

sorry for the confusion, I was referring to = Ed's three=20 picks, should have changed the subject line
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ian
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI

I don't have an IBD in front of me, but ... if = OVTI has an=20 RS between 10 and 30, something has gone terribly wrong. Personally, I = would=20 not buy it here with such a steep 1-month rise to reach its old high = (in fact,=20 a short near $20 with a very tight stop offers compelling risk/reward = for a=20 short-term trade). However, the stock has done remarkably well all = year,=20 albeit in a volatile fashion.
 
Ian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 01, = 2003 3:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = OVTI

Eric, with RS ranging from 10 to 30, and the = charts=20 that they each have, I would call this bottom fishing rather than=20 CANSLIM.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Eric=20 Jaenike
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVTI

Notable strength and resistance clearing in SMH, IDTI, SMTC.=20

 "Edward W. Gjertsen II" <ed@macktracks.com> = wrote:=20 Any=20 comments on OVTI?


Ed Gjertsen II
ed@macktracks.com


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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 = 1:35=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 AMI

Tom:

Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder = if the=20 word"former" in
all
literature has ever had such=20 significance)!

jans


In a message dated 2/27/2003 = 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Yahoo!=20 Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C2E1D2.B793E560-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 03 Mar 2003 22:44:24 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03C3_01C2E1D6.70A752A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sonnie, I sent you the Buffett criteria offline. After you do a = comparison please let me know what you decide as criteria for CANSLIM = stocks with a 'value' slant. Gene ------=_NextPart_000_03C3_01C2E1D6.70A752A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sonnie, I sent you the Buffett = criteria offline.=20 After you do a comparison please let me know what you decide as = criteria=20 for CANSLIM stocks with a 'value' slant.
 
Gene
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Sonnie, I've attached criteria from = 'the' value=20 manager.... >Buffett<
do a comparison and let me know what = you decide=20 as criteria for
CANSLIM stocks with a 'value'=20 slant.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sonnie=20 Oratokhai
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 = 10:00=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock = screening=20 criteria for value stocks

Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim.  I dont = pratice=20 pure CANSLIM







>From: "Tom Worley" = <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
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>To:=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
>Subject:=20 Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks
>Date: = Mon, 3=20 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500
>
>other than CANSLIM and value = stocks are=20 contradictory terms?
>
>----- Original Message = -----
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>To= :=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
>Sent:=20 Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM
>Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock = screening=20 criteria for value stocks
>
>
>I currently have a = cnslim=20 screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I can
>pick just = value=20 stocks.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks for your=20 = help
>
>Sonnie
>
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 03 Mar 2003 21:31:11 -0800 Hi Sonnie: I agree with Tom. If you are trying to meld CANSLIM and 'Value' together, you most likely have to throw out any filtering on price, market cap, or average daily trading volume. However, once you do that, you may be surprised to find some nano-cap CANSLIM gems. For example, Document Sciences (DOCX - NASDAQ SmallCap), had 20% revenue growth and 160% EPS growth ($0.13/share) in Q3 last year, with a slate of new products in the pipeline, stronger license growth than overall growth, a strong outlook, and a chart that had been dead flat for 1 - year (so no overhead resistance to speak of). After their Q3 earnings announcement, the stock still remained down at $2, which was equivalent to the net cash per share on their balance sheet. In this day and age, I believe that you will be hard pressed to ever find liquid growth stocks > $15, with friendly charts, trading anywhere close to their tangible book value. But if you find any, please let the group know. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:33 PM > I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I can > pick just value stocks. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks for your help > > Sonnie > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Derks?= Subject: [CANSLIM] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Intro:_S=E9bastien_Derks?= Date: 04 Mar 2003 10:53:44 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2E23C.5816A770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 =20 I am a beginner to the stock market and read many books about it but was really impressed by =91How to make money in stocks.=92 =20 I am living in the Netherlands and was wondering which discount broker I should use. I looked around myself and Ameritrade offers accounts for international people, they are relatively inexpensive in their commissions, and seem to offer good service? Any comments on this? Are there any others who I should have a look at? =20 Besides that point, I was wondering what are all the sites where I can get CANSLIM information for free. For example, to measure the industry ranking, CANSLIM stocks search, anyways just about all the tools I need to be able to make a sound judgement about certain stocks. =20 =20 Thanks a lot, =20 =20 S=E9bastien Derks=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2E23C.5816A770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi

 

I am a beginner to the = stock market and read many books about it but was really impressed by = ‘How to make money in stocks.’

 

I am living in the = Netherlands and was wondering which discount broker I = should use. I looked around myself and Ameritrade offers accounts for international = people, they are relatively inexpensive in their commissions, and seem to offer = good service? Any comments on this? Are there any = others who I should have a look at?

 

Besides that point, I = was wondering what are all the sites where I can get = CANSLIM information for free. For example, to measure the industry = ranking, CANSLIM stocks search, anyways just about all the tools I need to be = able to make a sound judgement about certain = stocks.

 

 

Thanks a = lot,

 

 

S=E9bastien Derks =

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2E23C.5816A770-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BCANSLIM=5D_Intro:_S=E9bastien_Derks?= Date: 04 Mar 2003 06:15:52 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2E215.81DB51E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome to the group, Sebastien, it's a good place to learn, even if now = is not a good time to be investing. I am in Miami, Florida, so just = waking up here and checking the world markets. I use Schwab, although they are more expensive than most discount firms. = But they have always been there when I need them, even when some online = firms were not accessible during heavy volume. I have never used = Ameritrade, but some members have and can hopefully tell you of their = experience. One of our members (Katherine) has put together an excellent FAQ with = lots of resources listed. I will forward it separately to you in case = you missed it. Good luck, and again, welcome ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:53 AM Hi=20 =20 I am a beginner to the stock market and read many books about it but was = really impressed by 'How to make money in stocks.' =20 I am living in the Netherlands and was wondering which discount broker I = should use. I looked around myself and Ameritrade offers accounts for = international people, they are relatively inexpensive in their = commissions, and seem to offer good service? Any comments on this? Are = there any others who I should have a look at? =20 Besides that point, I was wondering what are all the sites where I can = get CANSLIM information for free. For example, to measure the industry = ranking, CANSLIM stocks search, anyways just about all the tools I need = to be able to make a sound judgement about certain stocks. =20 =20 Thanks a lot, =20 =20 S=E9bastien Derks=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2E215.81DB51E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Welcome to the group, Sebastien, it's a good = place to=20 learn, even if now is not a good time to be investing. I am in Miami, = Florida,=20 so just waking up here and checking the world markets.
 
I use Schwab, although they are more expensive = than most=20 discount firms. But they have always been there when I need them, even = when some=20 online firms were not accessible during heavy volume. I have never used=20 Ameritrade, but some members have and can hopefully tell you of their=20 experience.
 
One of our members (Katherine) has put together = an=20 excellent FAQ with lots of resources listed. I will forward it = separately to you=20 in case you missed it.
 
Good luck, and again, welcome
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: S=E9bastien = Derks
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:53 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: S=E9bastien Derks

Hi =

 

I am a=20 beginner to the stock market and read many books about it but was really = impressed by =91How to make money in = stocks.=92

 

I am=20 living in the Netherlands = and was=20 wondering which discount broker I should use. I looked around myself and = Ameritrade offers accounts for international people, they are relatively = inexpensive in their commissions, and seem to offer good service? Any comments on this? Are there any others who I = should have=20 a look at?

 

Besides=20 that point, I was wondering what are all the sites = where I can=20 get CANSLIM information for free. For example, to measure the = industry=20 ranking, CANSLIM stocks search, anyways just about all the tools I need = to be=20 able to make a sound judgement about certain=20 stocks.

 

 

Thanks a=20 lot,

 

 

S=E9bastien=20 Derks

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We = have updated the=20 Accumulate/Distribution Charts from IBD and have posted them=20 here.
 
http://www.adrich.com/SI/I= nfo/A's.htm
 
Seems = like they=20 confirm a market going nowhere in a hurry.
 
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 S=E9bastien = Derks=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 = 4:53=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: = S=E9bastien=20 Derks

I am=20 living in the Netherlands and was=20 wondering which discount broker I should use. I looked around myself = and=20 Ameritrade offers accounts for international people, they are = relatively=20 inexpensive in their commissions, and seem to offer good service? = Any comments on this? Are there any others who I = should=20 have a look at?

 

 

I=20 don't know about international accounts, but I use Ameritrade and have = been=20 pleased with them.  They have executed promptly any orders I have=20 placed.  And that includes some short term day trades using limit=20 orders.  The service, when contact is needed, has always been = prompt and=20 courteous, and I can say that I have never experienced a=20 problem.

 

Like=20 I say, though, this is an American domestic account.  I don't know = what=20 snags, if any, one might hit with an international=20 account.

 

Good=20 luck.

 

 

Chuck=20 Layne

 

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Has anyone used or have any information on the breakout123.com web site. It looks like it will show you the pivot point of stocks ready to move higher.
 
                                                   thanks in advance,
                                                    Joe Clark
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In that case, one criteria if you are using it is market cap. >Keep it low, as I find most good value with still good CANSLIM criteria are >small caps and some mid caps. That also means keeping any screening >criteria >for ADV low (50,000 shares daily or even less). Also any lower price >threshold for screening should be the lower teens or lower. > >Some of the best value is found in the unknown stocks, but that means being >patient and waiting for them to be "discovered" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:00 PM >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM > > > > > > > > >From: "Tom Worley" > >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > > > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I >can > >pick just value stocks. > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Thanks for your help > > > >Sonnie > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 04 Mar 2003 22:30:11 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0EB6_01C2E29D.9E72C620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sonnie, being a VectorVest user is the easiest way to get this data. = Have you looked at the VectorVest's book "How to Value Stocks" in the = book Stocks, Strategies and Common Sense (value reflects the intrinsic = value of a share of stock as computed by VectorVest)? Gene=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sonnie Oratokhai=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Hi Tom, Katherine and Gene Thanks for your response. Actually what I am looking for is a = criteria to=20 determine intrinsic value on the MSN screen. Basically trying to = mimic=20 vectorvest without paying for it. Most of the stocks I have found using this method are usually unheard = of.=20 Examples are FSTW and TALK So if anyone know of ways of determing intrinsic value please share. Thanks Sonnie >From: "Tom Worley" >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:05:56 -0500 > >understood. In that case, one criteria if you are using it is market = cap. >Keep it low, as I find most good value with still good CANSLIM = criteria are >small caps and some mid caps. That also means keeping any screening=20 >criteria >for ADV low (50,000 shares daily or even less). Also any lower price >threshold for screening should be the lower teens or lower. > >Some of the best value is found in the unknown stocks, but that means = being >patient and waiting for them to be "discovered" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:00 PM >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM > > > > > > > > >From: "Tom Worley" > >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > > > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak = so I=20 >can > >pick just value stocks. > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Thanks for your help > > > >Sonnie > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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Sonnie, being a VectorVest user is the = easiest=20 way to get this data. Have you looked at the VectorVest's book "How to = Value=20 Stocks" in the book Stocks, Strategies and Common Sense (value reflects = the=20 intrinsic value of a share of stock as computed by = VectorVest)?
 
Gene 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 = 10:15=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock = screening=20 criteria for value stocks

Hi Tom, Katherine and Gene


Thanks for your=20 response.  Actually what I am looking for is a criteria to =
determine=20 intrinsic value on the MSN screen.  Basically trying to mimic=20
vectorvest without paying for it.

Most of the stocks I have = found=20 using this method are usually unheard of.
Examples are FSTW and=20 TALK

So if anyone know of ways of determing intrinsic value = please=20 share.

Thanks
Sonnie





>From: "Tom = Worley"=20 <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
&g= t;Reply-To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com=
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>Subject:=20 Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks
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>understood. In that case, one = criteria=20 if you are using it is market cap.
>Keep it low, as I find most = good=20 value with still good CANSLIM criteria are
>small caps and some = mid=20 caps. That also means keeping any screening =
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>threshold=20 for screening should be the lower teens or lower.
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>Some = of the=20 best value is found in the unknown stocks, but that means = being
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>----- Original = Message=20 -----
>From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" <sonnedo@hotmail.com>
>To= :=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
>Sent:=20 Monday, March 03, 2003 11:00 PM
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>Yes I agree but das = my tweak=20 to canslim.  I dont pratice pure=20 = CANSLIM
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>=20 >From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
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>=20 >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value = stocks
>=20 >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500
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> = >other than=20 CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms?
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> = >----- Original Message -----
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>=20 >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM
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> = >I=20 currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I=20
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(For those not familiar with VV, the variable "GRT" to which I refer is forward earnings growth rate.) See it at: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/RVLesson.zip (This is a zipped Word for Windows document with imbedded graphics.) Second, in a more general sense, a "value" investment approach can take many forms. Buffett, for example, will use a discounted free cash flow model similar to that described in my RV Lesson to compute "value", but that is only one of many criteria that he uses. In order to compute this, you need *forward* estimates and expectations of interest rates and it's very difficult to get reliable estimates off a simple screening program such as MSN, not to mention that this is a calculation that you would have to do with raw data, not something that can be "screened." In lieu of or in addition to that, you also need some meaningful measure of value relative to price such as free cash flow to price, etc. MSN and other screening may get you there, but the problem with doing a more thorough "value" analysis is that you really need quite a few years of historical data on not only cash flow, but also profit margins, earnings, ROE's, etc. to do something more thorough. If you're looking for a package that gives you a lower priced alternative to VV and the *only* thing you are trying to get from VV is Value/Relative value, you might consider AAII's Stock Investor Pro software which gives 7 or 8 years of historical fundamental data. This is data from MarketGuide, but far more comprehensive than what you can get at the free MarketGuide.com screening site. That said, you're *still* going to have to use raw data to compute a discounted "value" similar to that in VV. ( http://www.aaii.com/store/sipro/) If on the other hand you also want graphing, price/volume back data, investing tools, etc., that are also available in VV, then SI Pro won't cover the bases. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sonnie Oratokhai Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:15 PM Hi Tom, Katherine and Gene Thanks for your response. Actually what I am looking for is a criteria to determine intrinsic value on the MSN screen. Basically trying to mimic vectorvest without paying for it. Most of the stocks I have found using this method are usually unheard of. Examples are FSTW and TALK So if anyone know of ways of determing intrinsic value please share. Thanks Sonnie >From: "Tom Worley" >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:05:56 -0500 > >understood. In that case, one criteria if you are using it is market cap. >Keep it low, as I find most good value with still good CANSLIM criteria are >small caps and some mid caps. That also means keeping any screening >criteria >for ADV low (50,000 shares daily or even less). Also any lower price >threshold for screening should be the lower teens or lower. > >Some of the best value is found in the unknown stocks, but that means being >patient and waiting for them to be "discovered" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:00 PM >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM > > > > > > > > >From: "Tom Worley" > >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > > > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I >can > >pick just value stocks. > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Thanks for your help > > > >Sonnie > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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The problem I see is that it can not be broken down into a falseafiable hypothesis. Thank you LACK --- Katherine Malm wrote: > Hi Sonnie, > > I now more clearly see your intent. There's really 2 issues at hand. I've > used VectorVest since early '98, so first, in order to "mimic Vectorvest", > I > am assuming that you are using their Value and Relative Value proprietary > rankings for selecting stocks such as FSTW and TALK. The bottom line is > that > VV's "Value" is a discounted future earnings stream. While the exact > calculations are proprietary, an article that I wrote last year more fully > explains how, in general, these numbers are derived. (For those not > familiar > with VV, the variable "GRT" to which I refer is forward earnings growth > rate.) See it at: > > http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/RVLesson.zip (This is a zipped Word for > Windows document with imbedded graphics.) > > Second, in a more general sense, a "value" investment approach can take > many > forms. Buffett, for example, will use a discounted free cash flow model > similar to that described in my RV Lesson to compute "value", but that is > only one of many criteria that he uses. In order to compute this, you need > *forward* estimates and expectations of interest rates and it's very > difficult to get reliable estimates off a simple screening program such as > MSN, not to mention that this is a calculation that you would have to do > with raw data, not something that can be "screened." In lieu of or in > addition to that, you also need some meaningful measure of value relative > to > price such as free cash flow to price, etc. MSN and other screening may > get > you there, but the problem with doing a more thorough "value" analysis is > that you really need quite a few years of historical data on not only cash > flow, but also profit margins, earnings, ROE's, etc. to do something more > thorough. If you're looking for a package that gives you a lower priced > alternative to VV and the *only* thing you are trying to get from VV is > Value/Relative value, you might consider AAII's Stock Investor Pro > software > which gives 7 or 8 years of historical fundamental data. This is data from > MarketGuide, but far more comprehensive than what you can get at the free > MarketGuide.com screening site. That said, you're *still* going to have to > use raw data to compute a discounted "value" similar to that in VV. ( > http://www.aaii.com/store/sipro/) If on the other hand you also want > graphing, price/volume back data, investing tools, etc., that are also > available in VV, then SI Pro won't cover the bases. > > Katherine > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sonnie Oratokhai > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:15 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > Hi Tom, Katherine and Gene > > > Thanks for your response. Actually what I am looking for is a criteria to > determine intrinsic value on the MSN screen. Basically trying to mimic > vectorvest without paying for it. > > Most of the stocks I have found using this method are usually unheard of. > Examples are FSTW and TALK > > So if anyone know of ways of determing intrinsic value please share. > > Thanks > Sonnie > > > > > > >From: "Tom Worley" > >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:05:56 -0500 > > > >understood. In that case, one criteria if you are using it is market cap. > >Keep it low, as I find most good value with still good CANSLIM criteria > are > >small caps and some mid caps. That also means keeping any screening > >criteria > >for ADV low (50,000 shares daily or even less). Also any lower price > >threshold for screening should be the lower teens or lower. > > > >Some of the best value is found in the unknown stocks, but that means > being > >patient and waiting for them to be "discovered" > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:00 PM > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > > > >Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Tom Worley" > > >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > > > > > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" > > >To: > > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM > > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > > > > > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I > >can > > >pick just value stocks. > > > > > >Any ideas? > > > > > >Thanks for your help > > > > > >Sonnie > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > >- > > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Does CANSLIM Work? (was Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks) Date: 06 Mar 2003 22:37:01 -0500 James, I snipped off the rest of your post, as it didn't apply to the question you ask. Does CANSLIM work? I say yes, at least for me, my style, my application, and directly in proportion to my diligence, time available, discipline in sticking to what I have found works for me. That said, with over 15 years of full time involvement in the securities industry, and an active investor throughout that time, plus another 30 years of limited investing and activity, I find that CANSLIM makes the most sense to me of all systems I have studied and tried. Have I tried all of them? Of course not, but I have at least dabbled over the years in most that have been around for more than a year or two. CANSLIM has survived the test of time. People still use it, and new people still want to learn about it. That alone means it is successful on some level. And because I am not the only one that has been using it consistently (according to my own style, interpretation, and all the other caveats) for well over a decade straight and still believe in it, I must conclude that it is successful for at least some investors. That fact that this board, dedicated to learning about CANSLIM, is still around after over 7 years, and still has a number of the original members, says a lot about the success of CANSLIM. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:16 PM Does anyone have any statistics that verify that canslim works? The problem I see is that it can not be broken down into a falseafiable hypothesis. Thank you LACK - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jclark249@comcast.net Subject: [CANSLIM] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BCANSLIM=5D_Re:_=5BCANSLIM=5D_Intro:_S=E9bastien_Der?= Date: 06 Mar 2003 22:53:25 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_+K48ELCjFhGdcvVTikxsfA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Can you forward that list of resources. thanks, Joe Clark ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: S=E9bastien Derks Welcome to the group, Sebastien, it's a good place to learn, even if = now is not a good time to be investing. I am in Miami, Florida, so just = waking up here and checking the world markets. I use Schwab, although they are more expensive than most discount = firms. But they have always been there when I need them, even when some = online firms were not accessible during heavy volume. I have never used = Ameritrade, but some members have and can hopefully tell you of their = experience. One of our members (Katherine) has put together an excellent FAQ with = lots of resources listed. I will forward it separately to you in case = you missed it. Good luck, and again, welcome ----- Original Message -----=20 From: S=E9bastien Derks=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:53 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: S=E9bastien Derks Hi=20 =20 I am a beginner to the stock market and read many books about it but = was really impressed by 'How to make money in stocks.' =20 I am living in the Netherlands and was wondering which discount broker = I should use. I looked around myself and Ameritrade offers accounts for = international people, they are relatively inexpensive in their = commissions, and seem to offer good service? Any comments on this? Are = there any others who I should have a look at? =20 Besides that point, I was wondering what are all the sites where I can = get CANSLIM information for free. For example, to measure the industry = ranking, CANSLIM stocks search, anyways just about all the tools I need = to be able to make a sound judgement about certain stocks. =20 =20 Thanks a lot, =20 =20 S=E9bastien Derks=20 --Boundary_(ID_+K48ELCjFhGdcvVTikxsfA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Can you forward that list of resources.
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20 thanks,
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =     Joe=20 Clark
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 = 6:15=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: = [CANSLIM] Intro:=20 S=E9bastien Derks

Welcome to the group, Sebastien, it's a good = place to=20 learn, even if now is not a good time to be investing. I am in Miami, = Florida,=20 so just waking up here and checking the world markets.
 
I use Schwab, although they are more expensive = than most=20 discount firms. But they have always been there when I need them, even = when=20 some online firms were not accessible during heavy volume. I have = never used=20 Ameritrade, but some members have and can hopefully tell you of their=20 experience.
 
One of our members (Katherine) has put = together an=20 excellent FAQ with lots of resources listed. I will forward it = separately to=20 you in case you missed it.
 
Good luck, and again, welcome
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: S=E9bastien = Derks
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:53 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: S=E9bastien Derks

Hi =

 

I am a=20 beginner to the stock market and read many books about it but was = really=20 impressed by ‘How to make money in = stocks.’

 

I am=20 living in the Netherlands and was=20 wondering which discount broker I should use. I looked around myself = and=20 Ameritrade offers accounts for international people, they are = relatively=20 inexpensive in their commissions, and seem to offer good service? = Any comments on this? Are there any others who I = should=20 have a look at?

 

Besides=20 that point, I was wondering what are all the sites = where I=20 can get CANSLIM information for free. For example, to measure = the=20 industry ranking, CANSLIM stocks search, anyways just about all the = tools I=20 need to be able to make a sound judgement about certain=20 stocks.

 

 

Thanks a=20 lot,

 

 

S=E9bastien=20 Derks

--Boundary_(ID_+K48ELCjFhGdcvVTikxsfA)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Lackey Subject: Re: Does CANSLIM Work? (was Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks) Date: 06 Mar 2003 20:05:16 -0800 (PST) Tom, very nice testemonial. I appreciate your experience in the markets. I have much to learn. Would you please be very specific in how canslim works? I try to take a scientific approach to the markets. Is there anything that you guys have backtested? Regrettably I have lost millions to my brokers daytrading. I can't afford to trade systems unless the are an edge. LACK --- Tom Worley wrote: > James, I snipped off the rest of your post, as it didn't apply to the > question you ask. > > Does CANSLIM work? I say yes, at least for me, my style, my application, > and > directly in proportion to my diligence, time available, discipline in > sticking to what I have found works for me. > > That said, with over 15 years of full time involvement in the securities > industry, and an active investor throughout that time, plus another 30 > years > of limited investing and activity, I find that CANSLIM makes the most > sense > to me of all systems I have studied and tried. Have I tried all of them? > Of > course not, but I have at least dabbled over the years in most that have > been around for more than a year or two. > > CANSLIM has survived the test of time. People still use it, and new people > still want to learn about it. That alone means it is successful on some > level. And because I am not the only one that has been using it > consistently > (according to my own style, interpretation, and all the other caveats) for > well over a decade straight and still believe in it, I must conclude that > it > is successful for at least some investors. > > That fact that this board, dedicated to learning about CANSLIM, is still > around after over 7 years, and still has a number of the original members, > says a lot about the success of CANSLIM. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Lackey" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:16 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > Does anyone have any statistics that verify that canslim works? The > problem > I see is that it can not be broken down into a falseafiable hypothesis. > Thank you LACK > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: Does CANSLIM Work? (was Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks) Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:13:57 -0500 James, CANSLIM is about investing, not day trading. So while a few successful day traders may well succeed in adapting some of CANSLIM to their own method of trading, that is not it's purpose. If you have not yet read, then studied, Wm O'Neil's book How To Make Money In Stocks (HTMMIS), then that would be your first step if you want to switch away from day trading. I would also suggest reviewing the information and resources which Katherine set up as a FAQ at This FAQ is also available at: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc or http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.zip (zipped version for those who are having trouble displaying the document within their browser) CANSLIM is not a "system". Rather it is more a discipline or a philosophy, which also means it lends itself well to personalizing it to your own level of experience, discipline, time to work it, risk tolerance, investment goals (short, mid or long term), etc. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:05 PM for value stocks) Tom, very nice testemonial. I appreciate your experience in the markets. I have much to learn. Would you please be very specific in how canslim works? I try to take a scientific approach to the markets. Is there anything that you guys have backtested? Regrettably I have lost millions to my brokers daytrading. I can't afford to trade systems unless the are an edge. LACK --- Tom Worley wrote: > James, I snipped off the rest of your post, as it didn't apply to the > question you ask. > > Does CANSLIM work? I say yes, at least for me, my style, my application, > and > directly in proportion to my diligence, time available, discipline in > sticking to what I have found works for me. > > That said, with over 15 years of full time involvement in the securities > industry, and an active investor throughout that time, plus another 30 > years > of limited investing and activity, I find that CANSLIM makes the most > sense > to me of all systems I have studied and tried. Have I tried all of them? > Of > course not, but I have at least dabbled over the years in most that have > been around for more than a year or two. > > CANSLIM has survived the test of time. People still use it, and new people > still want to learn about it. That alone means it is successful on some > level. And because I am not the only one that has been using it > consistently > (according to my own style, interpretation, and all the other caveats) for > well over a decade straight and still believe in it, I must conclude that > it > is successful for at least some investors. > > That fact that this board, dedicated to learning about CANSLIM, is still > around after over 7 years, and still has a number of the original members, > says a lot about the success of CANSLIM. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Lackey" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:16 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > Does anyone have any statistics that verify that canslim works? The > problem > I see is that it can not be broken down into a falseafiable hypothesis. > Thank you LACK > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJAskey@aol.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Does CANSLIM Work? Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:44:56 EST --part1_8f.2a6a002a.2b997dc8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James, CANSLIM is nothing mystical. The goal is to find the best fundamental growth stocks and buy them just as they make their major price moves. It differs from most fundamental growth stategies in that it does not advocate buying a stock with exceptional fundamentals and waiting for the market to "figure out the value". The goal is to buy each stock just as it begins a major price move. The market's general conditions are consider as the probabilty of success is greatly increased in a bull market (and decreased in a bear market). CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical situation of the market is negative. There are rules and guides outlining what and when to buy and sell but it still requires judgement and experience to maximize profits. I recommend reading O'Neil's book before you attempt to trade using CANSLIM. Even if you decide against CANSLIM as a strategy, you will probably learn enough to make/save hundreds, thousands, and maybe millions of times the $12 cost of the book. Andy --part1_8f.2a6a002a.2b997dc8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable James,

CANSLIM is nothing mystical.  The goal is to find the best fundamental=20= growth stocks and buy them just as they make their major price moves. =20= It differs from most fundamental growth stategies in that it does not advoca= te buying a stock with exceptional fundamentals and waiting for the market t= o "figure out the value".  The goal is to buy each stock just as it beg= ins a major price move.  The market's general conditions are consider a= s the probabilty of success is greatly increased in a bull market (and decre= ased in a bear market).  CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when th= e technical situation of the market is negative.  There are rules and g= uides outlining what and when to buy and sell but it still requires judgemen= t and experience to maximize profits.

I recommend reading O'Neil's book before you attempt to trade using CANSLIM.=   Even if you decide against CANSLIM as a strategy, you will probably l= earn enough to make/save hundreds, thousands, and maybe millions of times th= e $12 cost of the book.

Andy --part1_8f.2a6a002a.2b997dc8_boundary-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Lackey Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Does CANSLIM Work? Date: 06 Mar 2003 21:08:59 -0800 (PST) " CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > situation of the market is negative." So this CANSLIM has been in cash since 2000? How do you know when the market turns negative, until it goes down? Then how do you know when it is time to get back in when the market goes up? So I sell after it starts going down and I buy after it starts going up? I do not understand..LACK --- AJAskey@aol.com wrote: > James, > > CANSLIM is nothing mystical. The goal is to find the best fundamental > growth > stocks and buy them just as they make their major price moves. It differs > > from most fundamental growth stategies in that it does not advocate buying > a > stock with exceptional fundamentals and waiting for the market to "figure > out > the value". The goal is to buy each stock just as it begins a major price > > move. The market's general conditions are consider as the probabilty of > success is greatly increased in a bull market (and decreased in a bear > market). CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > situation > of the market is negative. There are rules and guides outlining what and > when to buy and sell but it still requires judgement and experience to > maximize profits. > > I recommend reading O'Neil's book before you attempt to trade using > CANSLIM. > Even if you decide against CANSLIM as a strategy, you will probably learn > enough to make/save hundreds, thousands, and maybe millions of times the > $12 > cost of the book. > > Andy > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Does CANSLIM Work? Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:33:45 -0500 James, read the book, and follow along in this group for a while, or spend some time in the archives of posts from here. Your question has been asked, and discussed, many times. The most important letter in CANSLIM is "M", and there is an entire chapter on it in the book, plus much other material in the FAQ. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:08 AM " CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > situation of the market is negative." So this CANSLIM has been in cash since 2000? How do you know when the market turns negative, until it goes down? Then how do you know when it is time to get back in when the market goes up? So I sell after it starts going down and I buy after it starts going up? I do not understand..LACK --- AJAskey@aol.com wrote: > James, > > CANSLIM is nothing mystical. The goal is to find the best fundamental > growth > stocks and buy them just as they make their major price moves. It differs > > from most fundamental growth stategies in that it does not advocate buying > a > stock with exceptional fundamentals and waiting for the market to "figure > out > the value". The goal is to buy each stock just as it begins a major price > > move. The market's general conditions are consider as the probabilty of > success is greatly increased in a bull market (and decreased in a bear > market). CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > situation > of the market is negative. There are rules and guides outlining what and > when to buy and sell but it still requires judgement and experience to > maximize profits. > > I recommend reading O'Neil's book before you attempt to trade using > CANSLIM. > Even if you decide against CANSLIM as a strategy, you will probably learn > enough to make/save hundreds, thousands, and maybe millions of times the > $12 > cost of the book. > > Andy > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Harris" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Does CANSLIM Work? Date: 07 Mar 2003 16:53:57 -0500 James, As other people have indicated, the book will help you out with your question. There are chapters which address the topics of "how to spot when the market hits a top", "how to spot when the market bottoms", How to guage the stock market's health", and "How to buy at just the right moment", just to name a few. In brief, Canslim advocates waiting for a "follow-through" day before going long after a negative trend. This means one of the indicies closes up 1% or more with a increase in volume the day before. Because often the market will continue on its downward trend, we wait for a "confirmation day" which is another day of increasing price and volume which will generally occur 3-4 days after the FT Day. Such a move confirms that the trend is a good one and suggest safety in going long (or back in the market from cash). Note: this is a very condensed summary of the idea and I suggest you read one of the books. 24 Essential Lessons for Investment Success - O'Neil How to Make Money in Stocks - O'Neil Erik ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:08 AM > " CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > > situation of the market is negative." So this CANSLIM has been in cash > since 2000? How do you know when the market turns negative, until it goes > down? Then how do you know when it is time to get back in when the market > goes up? So I sell after it starts going down and I buy after it starts > going up? I do not understand..LACK > > --- AJAskey@aol.com wrote: > > James, > > > > CANSLIM is nothing mystical. The goal is to find the best fundamental > > growth > > stocks and buy them just as they make their major price moves. It differs > > > > from most fundamental growth stategies in that it does not advocate buying > > a > > stock with exceptional fundamentals and waiting for the market to "figure > > out > > the value". The goal is to buy each stock just as it begins a major price > > > > move. The market's general conditions are consider as the probabilty of > > success is greatly increased in a bull market (and decreased in a bear > > market). CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > > situation > > of the market is negative. There are rules and guides outlining what and > > when to buy and sell but it still requires judgement and experience to > > maximize profits. > > > > I recommend reading O'Neil's book before you attempt to trade using > > CANSLIM. > > Even if you decide against CANSLIM as a strategy, you will probably learn > > enough to make/save hundreds, thousands, and maybe millions of times the > > $12 > > cost of the book. > > > > Andy > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Does CANSLIM Work? Date: 07 Mar 2003 16:15:52 -0700 Not to be nit-picky, but I think nowadays, a 2% rise on increased volume is advocated. My understanding is: 1. Day 1 is the first day of an attempted rally (e.g., today). Volume is not needed. 2. We look for a FTD 4-10 days after the first day of the attempted rally. The FTD requires a 2% rise in one of the major indices on increased (prefered above the 50-day ADV) volume. 3. If an index drops below the intraday low of Day 1, the rally fails (e.g., yesterday did in the attempted 5 March rally). I might finally have this right - been going back to 24-Lessons on and off when I get confused. Rolf > James, > > As other people have indicated, the book will help you out with your > question. There are chapters which address the topics of "how to spot when > the market hits a top", "how to spot when the market bottoms", How to guage > the stock market's health", and "How to buy at just the right moment", just > to name a few. > > In brief, Canslim advocates waiting for a "follow-through" day before going > long after a negative trend. This means one of the indicies closes up 1% or > more with a increase in volume the day before. Because often the market > will continue on its downward trend, we wait for a "confirmation day" which > is another day of increasing price and volume which will generally occur 3-4 > days after the FT Day. Such a move confirms that the trend is a good one > and suggest safety in going long (or back in the market from cash). > > Note: this is a very condensed summary of the idea and I suggest you read > one of the books. > 24 Essential Lessons for Investment Success - O'Neil > How to Make Money in Stocks - O'Neil > > Erik > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Lackey" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:08 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Does CANSLIM Work? > > > > " CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > > > situation of the market is negative." So this CANSLIM has been in cash > > since 2000? How do you know when the market turns negative, until it goes > > down? Then how do you know when it is time to get back in when the market > > goes up? So I sell after it starts going down and I buy after it starts > > going up? I do not understand..LACK > > > > --- AJAskey@aol.com wrote: > > > James, > > > > > > CANSLIM is nothing mystical. The goal is to find the best fundamental > > > growth > > > stocks and buy them just as they make their major price moves. It > differs > > > > > > from most fundamental growth stategies in that it does not advocate > buying > > > a > > > stock with exceptional fundamentals and waiting for the market to > "figure > > > out > > > the value". The goal is to buy each stock just as it begins a major > price > > > > > > move. The market's general conditions are consider as the probabilty of > > > success is greatly increased in a bull market (and decreased in a bear > > > market). CANSLIM advocates a 100% cash position when the technical > > > situation > > > of the market is negative. There are rules and guides outlining what > and > > > when to buy and sell but it still requires judgement and experience to > > > maximize profits. > > > > > > I recommend reading O'Neil's book before you attempt to trade using > > > CANSLIM. > > > Even if you decide against CANSLIM as a strategy, you will probably > learn > > > enough to make/save hundreds, thousands, and maybe millions of times the > > > $12 > > > cost of the book. > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Harris" Subject: [CANSLIM] PRAA - Opinions Date: 08 Mar 2003 14:24:43 -0500 Hi, I was just wondering if I could get other views of PRAA? It seems to have fairly good CANSLIM numbers. On the negative side, they have higher debt than I would normally accept, however, they are a debt collection company so I'm not sure how to view this piece of data. Other negatives: Sponsorship is low which could be good or bad. Group RS is also Low. The company is a recent IPO and could be volitile. Any opinions are appreciated. Erik - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harold Josephson Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks Date: 08 Mar 2003 11:46:28 -0800 HI Katherine, I've been a lurking admirer of your thoughtful, incisive, gracious and especially helpful commentary for more than a year. I'm a relatively new but increasingly impressed VectorVest subscriber now contemplating the purchase of the Pro Trader module. Your advice would be welcome. Many thanks. Harold Harold Josephson hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:46 AM Hi Sonnie, I now more clearly see your intent. There's really 2 issues at hand. I've used VectorVest since early '98, so first, in order to "mimic Vectorvest", I am assuming that you are using their Value and Relative Value proprietary rankings for selecting stocks such as FSTW and TALK. The bottom line is that VV's "Value" is a discounted future earnings stream. While the exact calculations are proprietary, an article that I wrote last year more fully explains how, in general, these numbers are derived. (For those not familiar with VV, the variable "GRT" to which I refer is forward earnings growth rate.) See it at: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/RVLesson.zip (This is a zipped Word for Windows document with imbedded graphics.) Second, in a more general sense, a "value" investment approach can take many forms. Buffett, for example, will use a discounted free cash flow model similar to that described in my RV Lesson to compute "value", but that is only one of many criteria that he uses. In order to compute this, you need *forward* estimates and expectations of interest rates and it's very difficult to get reliable estimates off a simple screening program such as MSN, not to mention that this is a calculation that you would have to do with raw data, not something that can be "screened." In lieu of or in addition to that, you also need some meaningful measure of value relative to price such as free cash flow to price, etc. MSN and other screening may get you there, but the problem with doing a more thorough "value" analysis is that you really need quite a few years of historical data on not only cash flow, but also profit margins, earnings, ROE's, etc. to do something more thorough. If you're looking for a package that gives you a lower priced alternative to VV and the *only* thing you are trying to get from VV is Value/Relative value, you might consider AAII's Stock Investor Pro software which gives 7 or 8 years of historical fundamental data. This is data from MarketGuide, but far more comprehensive than what you can get at the free MarketGuide.com screening site. That said, you're *still* going to have to use raw data to compute a discounted "value" similar to that in VV. ( http://www.aaii.com/store/sipro/) If on the other hand you also want graphing, price/volume back data, investing tools, etc., that are also available in VV, then SI Pro won't cover the bases. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sonnie Oratokhai Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:15 PM Hi Tom, Katherine and Gene Thanks for your response. Actually what I am looking for is a criteria to determine intrinsic value on the MSN screen. Basically trying to mimic vectorvest without paying for it. Most of the stocks I have found using this method are usually unheard of. Examples are FSTW and TALK So if anyone know of ways of determing intrinsic value please share. Thanks Sonnie >From: "Tom Worley" >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:05:56 -0500 > >understood. In that case, one criteria if you are using it is market cap. >Keep it low, as I find most good value with still good CANSLIM criteria are >small caps and some mid caps. That also means keeping any screening >criteria >for ADV low (50,000 shares daily or even less). Also any lower price >threshold for screening should be the lower teens or lower. > >Some of the best value is found in the unknown stocks, but that means being >patient and waiting for them to be "discovered" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:00 PM >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > >Yes I agree but das my tweak to canslim. I dont pratice pure CANSLIM > > > > > > > > >From: "Tom Worley" > >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:41:18 -0500 > > > >other than CANSLIM and value stocks are contradictory terms? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM > >Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock screening criteria for value stocks > > > > > >I currently have a cnslim screen on MSN that I will like to tweak so I >can > >pick just value stocks. > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Thanks for your help > > > >Sonnie > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > >- > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > >-"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "inderjit" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Numbers, was PRAA - Opinions Date: 08 Mar 2003 16:18:40 -0500 None of the companies can have good MANSLlC numbers :-( You got the idea! -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Erik Harris Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:25 PM Hi, I was just wondering if I could get other views of PRAA? It seems to have fairly good CANSLIM numbers. On the negative side, they have higher debt than I would normally accept, however, they are a debt collection company so I'm not sure how to view this piece of data. Other negatives: Sponsorship is low which could be good or bad. Group RS is also Low. The company is a recent IPO and could be volitile. Any opinions are appreciated. Erik - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 08 Mar 2003 19:04:34 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01C2E5A5.8E642ED0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0113_01C2E5A5.8E669FD0" ------=_NextPart_001_0113_01C2E5A5.8E669FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ECONOMICS Another dismal week for economics reports, possibly beginning to show = the true state of the US economy even without the influence of Iraqi war = fears. For some time the market pundits have been saying the stock = markets were disconnecting from the state of the economy because of the = war fears, maybe the markets were more connected, and simply giving an = advance forecast, to a greater degree than was being appreciated? Then = again, maybe this time they will get it right when they tell us the = economy will improve by mid-year, or at least by the second half of the = year, or maybe next year. Construction spending started the week off strong, showing a rise of = 1.7% for January and well ahead of expectations for a 0.5% gain. = Residential construction directly contributed, hitting a new record = high. Auto makers led off with their share of dismal news, reporting flat to = down sales figures for February. #1 in the industry is GM, which saw = sales drop 19%. #2 Ford was flat for the month, while Chrysler saw a 4% = decline. Both GM and Ford indicated they were cutting production from = previously planned levels for the 2nd qtr (more layoffs coming?). = Everyone blamed a decline in consumer confidence and the snowstorms. Consumer spending in January also headed south, down 0.1% against = expectations of a 0.1% rise. Personal income rose 0.3%, below = expectations of a 0.4% rise. Reason for the decline in spending? Big = fall in auto sales, wonder what February's report will look like? In another bit of bad news, ISM reports that manufacturing activity = continued slowing in February, coming in at 50.5 (barely in the = "expansion" range), down from 53.9 in January and well under = expectations of 52.0. The New Orders Index fell from 59.7 all the way = down to 52.3, the Employment Index continued contracting, down from 47.6 = to 42.8 (means rate of layoffs increasing). And warning of future = problems with profits, the Prices Paid Index jumped from 57.5 to 65.5, = largely due higher energy costs. In slight contrast, the ISM report on the service sector slipped, but = not as much, to 53.9, down from 54.5 but ahead of expectations of 53.0. = However, even there the employment index slipped into contraction at 49 = from January's 50.3. New orders index dropped to 53 from 56.2, while the = Price Index rose to 60.9 from 57.0, showing that the service sector is = still able to raise prices to keep up somewhat with higher costs. Then in a separate poll, Commerce Department reports that in January = manufacturing orders increased 2.1%. Hummmm, who do we believe, the = govt, or the manufacturers?? Expectations were for a rise of 1.8%. A total of 138,177 layoffs were announced in February, up 5% from = January. More talk of a pending rate cut by the Feds, most likely at the May or = June meeting of FOMC. Nice summary of the influences on the economy, and = likelihood of a rate cut, found at = http://money.cnn.com/2003/03/04/news/economy/fed_cut/index.htm Productivity for the 4th quarter 2002 was revised up to 0.8% from the = original report of minus 0.2%. Productivity for the year was 4.8%, best = since 1950. Maybe everyone left employed is scared of losing their job?? = Unit labor costs were up 3.8% for the quarter, but down 1.9% for the = year. Hourly compensation rose 4.6% in the 4th quarter, and 2.8% for the = year. Weekly report for new unemployment claims continued the litany of bad = news, showing new claims jumping to 430,000 and the 4 week average = shooting up from 400K to 408,750. Rounding out the week with its "bad boy" report was the Employment = report for February. While the rise to 5.8% unemployment was not = surprising, the loss of 308,000 jobs (against an expectation of 8,000 to = 20,000 new jobs) was a shock. Market headed south, then recovered on = news (still unconfirmed) that two of Osama's 23 sons had been captured. = Nice to see that at least some now unemployed terrorists can find = immediate new employment, as govt informers, even if it's not their job = preference. The Govt couldn't explain the sharp loss of jobs, suggesting = maybe, possibly, could be because of the callup of reservists for = service in the Mid-East, thus losing their civilian paycheck. And, of = course, the blizzards were blamed. The Govt also admitted that the = February unemployment rate of 5.8% is not comparable to January's 5.7% = because they tinkered with the numbers, just like they admitted last = month that January's figures were not comparable to December's for the = same reason. So, does this mean the real rate, that WOULD be comparable, = is already over 6%?? And BLS (Bureau of Labor and Statistics) announced = it expects to resume the layoffs report in late March or early April, = suspended since December due lack of funding. Is it coincidence that the = last time this report was suspended was also in a Bush administration = (the father) in 1992 until 1994?? ------- "M" Another losing week for all indexes, second in a row, and continuing the = slide below both the 50 and 200 dma. With the exception of the DJ = Transportation Index, the rest are testing their July low, but so far = volume remains light, and only time will tell if the October lows are = replaced with new lows. The trend is your friend, and it's heading = south, so "M" still says stay in cash if you can. In just one more sign = of the poor economy, one sub-sector of the retail group is remaining = strong, pawn shops. Check out PWN and FCFS (latter in my VR Fund). = Transportation predictably being excessively affected by the increasing = price of fuel, both airlines and trucking companies. Of course, all = those pending or actual bankruptcies are not helping either. The = consumer is also affected by the higher prices of gas, takes money away = from discretionary spending, makes travel and vacations more expensive, = and generally gives a real negative feeling about finances. Add to that = the weak dollar, making imports more expensive, as well as any foreign = travel, and there is plenty of reason to worry besides an upcoming war = with Iraq. ------- JAPAN Some things don't seem to change in this second largest economy in the = world. Deflation, Recession, Unemployment, Bankruptcies, Conservative = attitudes, reluctance and resistance to even admitting reality, much = less invoking real change. Outcome predictable, especially with the = price of energy still rising, and the dollar still weakening against the = yen. Latest rally fails at a lower level than the last one, big losses = in the Nikkei, hits and closes at a new 20 year (YEAR!!!!) low.=20 ------- WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20 This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It = is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's = "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with = constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from = (and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in = Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views = or opinions of my employer. I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, = and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout = scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, = focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all = industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast = for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no = due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM = patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases = (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR = (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my = personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any = stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest, whether = real money or virtual reality (VR). The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend continues to = shrink, in line with market trends. Even looking at stocks moving above = their 200 dma fails to produce more than a handful of candidates, and = these are much more a value play than a momentum / fundamentals = possibility. ACET - approached the pivot on Friday from a double bottom AGN - forming right side of cup (long term), breaking pivot on short = term, volume low APOL - at the pivot of a long trading range base AVCT - handle forming? BER - high handle on a decent cup DAKT - early LLUR? EBAY - LLUR beginning ELTE - c&h, in my VR Fund GAF - B8 HLTH - c&h IMO - handle forming NWSB - B6 OZRK - B7+ PORT - LLUR SSYS - c&h, in my VR Fund Happy Hunting, keep your power dry, "M" will turn in our favor, some day Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley ------=_NextPart_001_0113_01C2E5A5.8E669FD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ECONOMICS
Another dismal week for economics reports, = possibly=20 beginning to show the true state of the US economy even without the = influence of=20 Iraqi war fears. For some time the market pundits have been saying the = stock=20 markets were disconnecting from the state of the economy because of the = war=20 fears, maybe the markets were more connected, and simply giving an = advance=20 forecast, to a greater degree than was being appreciated? Then again, = maybe this=20 time they will get it right when they tell us the economy will improve = by=20 mid-year, or at least by the second half of the year, or maybe next=20 year.
 
Construction spending started the week off = strong, showing=20 a rise of 1.7% for January and well ahead of expectations for a 0.5% = gain.=20 Residential construction directly contributed, hitting a new record=20 high.
 
Auto makers led off with their share of dismal = news,=20 reporting flat to down sales figures for February. #1 in the industry is = GM,=20 which saw sales drop 19%. #2 Ford was flat for the month, while Chrysler = saw a=20 4% decline. Both GM and Ford indicated they were cutting production from = previously planned levels for the 2nd qtr (more layoffs coming?). = Everyone=20 blamed a decline in consumer confidence and the snowstorms.
 
Consumer spending in January also headed south, = down 0.1%=20 against expectations of a 0.1% rise. Personal income rose 0.3%, below=20 expectations of a 0.4% rise. Reason for the decline in spending? Big = fall in=20 auto sales, wonder what February's report will look like?
 
In another bit of bad news, ISM reports that = manufacturing=20 activity continued slowing in February, coming in at 50.5 (barely in the = "expansion" range), down from 53.9 in January and well under = expectations of=20 52.0. The New Orders Index fell from 59.7 all the way down to 52.3, the=20 Employment Index continued contracting, down from 47.6 to 42.8 (means = rate of=20 layoffs increasing). And warning of future problems with profits, the = Prices=20 Paid Index jumped from 57.5 to 65.5, largely due higher energy=20 costs.
 
In slight contrast, the ISM report on the = service sector=20 slipped, but not as much, to 53.9, down from 54.5 but ahead of = expectations of=20 53.0. However, even there the employment index slipped into contraction = at 49=20 from January's 50.3. New orders index dropped to 53 from = 56.2, while the=20 Price Index rose to 60.9 from 57.0, showing that the service sector is = still=20 able to raise prices to keep up somewhat with higher costs.
 
Then in a separate poll, Commerce=20 Department reports that in January manufacturing orders increased = 2.1%.=20 Hummmm, who do we believe, the govt, or the manufacturers?? Expectations = were=20 for a rise of 1.8%.
 
A total of 138,177 layoffs were announced in = February, up=20 5% from January.
 
More talk of a pending rate cut by the Feds, = most likely=20 at the May or June meeting of FOMC. Nice summary of the influences on = the=20 economy, and likelihood of a rate cut, found at h= ttp://money.cnn.com/2003/03/04/news/economy/fed_cut/index.htm<= /DIV>
 
Productivity for the 4th quarter 2002 was = revised up to=20 0.8% from the original report of minus 0.2%. Productivity for the year = was 4.8%,=20 best since 1950. Maybe everyone left employed is scared of losing their = job??=20 Unit labor costs were up 3.8% for the quarter, but down 1.9% for the = year.=20 Hourly compensation rose 4.6% in the 4th quarter, and 2.8% for the=20 year.
 
Weekly report for new unemployment claims = continued the=20 litany of bad news, showing new claims jumping to 430,000 and the 4 week = average=20 shooting up from 400K to 408,750.
 
Rounding out the week with its "bad boy" report = was the=20 Employment report for February. While the rise to 5.8% unemployment was = not=20 surprising, the loss of 308,000 jobs (against an expectation of 8,000 to = 20,000=20 new jobs) was a shock. Market headed south, then recovered on news = (still=20 unconfirmed) that two of Osama's 23 sons had been captured. Nice to see = that at=20 least some now unemployed terrorists can find immediate new employment, = as govt=20 informers, even if it's not their job preference. The Govt couldn't = explain the=20 sharp loss of jobs, suggesting maybe, possibly, could be because of = the=20 callup of reservists for service in the Mid-East, thus losing their = civilian=20 paycheck. And, of course, the blizzards were blamed. The Govt also = admitted that=20 the February unemployment rate of 5.8% is not comparable to January's = 5.7%=20 because they tinkered with the numbers, just like they admitted last = month that=20 January's figures were not comparable to December's for the same reason. = So,=20 does this mean the real rate, that WOULD be comparable, is already over = 6%?? And=20 BLS (Bureau of Labor and Statistics) announced it expects to resume the = layoffs=20 report in late March or early April, suspended since December due lack = of=20 funding. Is it coincidence that the last time this report was suspended = was also=20 in a Bush administration (the father) in 1992 until 1994??
"M"
Another losing week for all indexes, second in a = row, and=20 continuing the slide below both the 50 and 200 dma. With the exception = of the DJ=20 Transportation Index, the rest are testing their July low, but so far = volume=20 remains light, and only time will tell if the October lows are replaced = with new=20 lows. The trend is your friend, and it's heading south, so "M" still = says stay=20 in cash if you can. In just one more sign of the poor economy, one = sub-sector of=20 the retail group is remaining strong, pawn shops. Check out PWN and FCFS = (latter=20 in my VR Fund). Transportation predictably being excessively affected by = the=20 increasing price of fuel, both airlines and trucking companies. Of = course, all=20 those pending or actual bankruptcies are not helping either. The = consumer is=20 also affected by the higher prices of gas, takes money away from = discretionary=20 spending, makes travel and vacations more expensive, and generally gives = a real=20 negative feeling about finances. Add to that the weak dollar, making = imports=20 more expensive, as well as any foreign travel, and there is plenty of = reason to=20 worry besides an upcoming war with Iraq.
JAPAN
Some things don't seem to change in this second = largest=20 economy in the world. Deflation, Recession, Unemployment, Bankruptcies,=20 Conservative attitudes, reluctance and resistance to even admitting = reality,=20 much less invoking real change. Outcome predictable, especially with the = price=20 of energy still rising, and the dollar still weakening against the yen. = Latest=20 rally fails at a lower level than the last one, big losses in the = Nikkei, hits=20 and closes at a new 20 year (YEAR!!!!) low.=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST = WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any = stocks to=20 the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health = of=20 CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some = stocks=20 with constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from (and of = course doing=20 your own due diligence). I am employed = in=20 Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly=20 my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or = opinions of=20 my employer.
 
I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS = ranking of 80=20 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition = /=20 buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet = this general RS/EPS=20 criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I = consider all=20 industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal=20 investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings = forecast=20 for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due diligence, that is your = responsibility. I will=20 note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) = bottoms, or=20 flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also = note LLUR=20 (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely=20 are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due = size,=20 price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a = current=20 personal financial interest, whether real money or virtual reality=20 (VR).
 
The population of stocks I am reviewing this = weekend=20 continues to shrink, in line with market trends. Even looking at stocks = moving=20 above their 200 dma fails to produce more than a handful of candidates, = and=20 these are much more a value play than a momentum / fundamentals=20 possibility.
 
ACET - approached the pivot on Friday from a = double=20 bottom
AGN - forming right side of cup (long term), = breaking=20 pivot on short term, volume low
APOL - at the pivot of a long trading range=20 base
AVCT - handle forming?
BER - high handle on a decent cup
DAKT - early LLUR?
EBAY - LLUR beginning
ELTE - c&h, in my VR Fund
GAF - B8
HLTH - c&h
IMO - handle forming
NWSB - B6
OZRK - B7+
PORT - LLUR
SSYS - c&h, in my VR Fund
 
Happy Hunting, keep your power dry, "M" will = turn in our=20 favor, some=20 day
 
3D""
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: = TexWorley
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] PRAA - Opinions Date: 08 Mar 2003 19:34:12 -0500 Erik, DGO only shows 5% long term debt, which would not concern me, especially in a low interest rate environment. I am not comfortable with recent IPOs as I do not trust their "pro forma" (what they would have reported for earnings had they only been public) financials. Chart wise I see no entry point developing at this time. History of the company is too short for me to rely on a LLUR pattern. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:24 PM Hi, I was just wondering if I could get other views of PRAA? It seems to have fairly good CANSLIM numbers. On the negative side, they have higher debt than I would normally accept, however, they are a debt collection company so I'm not sure how to view this piece of data. Other negatives: Sponsorship is low which could be good or bad. Group RS is also Low. The company is a recent IPO and could be volitile. Any opinions are appreciated. Erik - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: [CANSLIM] YHOO - Nancy Date: 09 Mar 2003 15:50:01 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0526_01C2E653.8B3ADD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nancy, here's a short update on YHOO, Gene Market Report - 03/08/03 Brought to you by Industry Monitors, Inc. Hi Gene, See what happened to Yahoo from our last week report. This week compare Yahoo to ERES, USNA, PRX. These stocks have tight trends. But don't forget to also watch the market. There is no question that the major indices are oversold in the short-term and the horrible jobs report and lack of positive guidance from Intel added to the bearish tone of the market at Friday's open. Read more of Ron Brown's FREE weekly market report with charts: http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030308.pdf ------=_NextPart_000_0526_01C2E653.8B3ADD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Nancy, here's a short update on=20 YHOO,
Gene
 
 
Market = Report -=20 03/08/03
Brought to you by Industry Monitors, Inc.


Hi=20 Gene,

See what happened to Yahoo from our last week report.  = This=20 week compare
Yahoo to ERES, USNA, PRX.  These stocks have tight=20 trends.  But don't
forget to also watch the market.  There = is no=20 question that the major
indices are oversold in the short-term and = the=20 horrible jobs report and
lack of positive guidance from Intel added = to the=20 bearish tone of the
market at Friday's open.

Read more of Ron = Brown's=20 FREE weekly market report with charts:
http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030308.pdf
------=_NextPart_000_0526_01C2E653.8B3ADD40-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] YHOO - Nancy Date: 09 Mar 2003 22:53:35 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E68E.B77F1A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi gene-thanks for the update-I dont know how to send this to you but if = you go to msn.com and look at yahoo there is a comment about how high the= put interest suddenly became on yahoo in the last couple of days. Thank= s again nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:03 PM Hi Nancy, here's a short update on YHOO, Gene Market Report - 03/08/03 Brought to you by Industry Monitors, Inc. Hi Gene, See what happened to Yahoo from our last week report. This week compare Yahoo to ERES, USNA, PRX. These stocks have tight trends. But don't forget to also watch the market. There is no question that the major indices are oversold in the short-term and the horrible jobs report and lack of positive guidance from Intel added to the bearish tone of the market at Friday's open. Read more of Ron Brown's FREE weekly market report with charts: http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030308.pdf ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E68E.B77F1A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi gene-thanks for the update-I dont know= how to send this to you but if you go to msn.com and look at yahoo there= is a comment about how high the put interest suddenly became on yahoo in= the last couple of days.  Thanks again  nancy
 = ;
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ri= cci
Sent: Sunday, March 09, = 2003 2:03 PM
To: canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com
Subject: [CA= NSLIM] YHOO - Nancy
 
Hi Nancy, here's a short update on YHOO,
Gene
 
 
Market= Report - 03/08/03
Brought to you by Industry Monitors, Inc.

Hi Gene,

See what happened to Yahoo from our last week report.&n= bsp; This week compare
Yahoo to ERES, USNA, PRX.  These stocks ha= ve tight trends.  But don't
forget to also watch the market. = ; There is no question that the major
indices are oversold in the shor= t-term and the horrible jobs report and
lack of positive guidance from= Intel added to the bearish tone of the
market at Friday's open.
Read more of Ron Brown's FREE weekly market report with charts:
http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyR= eports/rpt/20030308.pdf
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E68E.B77F1A20-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sonnie Oratokhai" Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth Date: 10 Mar 2003 15:30:46 +0000 I am contemplating a subscription to vector vest mainly because they compute intrinsic value but I do not have any experience with Highgrowth stock and I have heard it mentioned on this board a couple of times. Any comments will be welcome. Thanks Sonnie _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth Date: 10 Mar 2003 18:36:45 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0382_01C2E734.0082C140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sonnie, both services are pretty darn good (yes, I have both). The key = is what do you require because their offerings are somewhat different. HGSI has a free 30-day trial if you take it through their data supplier = QP2, see: https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DQP2 If you need more time, HGSI has a 60-day trial for $49, see: https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DHGS And of course, VectorVest has their trial, 5 weeks at $9.95, see: http://www.vectorvest.com/stockreport/po.phtml Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sonnie Oratokhai=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth I am contemplating a subscription to vector vest mainly because they = compute=20 intrinsic value but I do not have any experience with Highgrowth stock = and I=20 have heard it mentioned on this board a couple of times. Any comments will be welcome. Thanks Sonnie _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.=20 http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_0382_01C2E734.0082C140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sonnie, both services are pretty darn = good=20 (yes, I have both). The key is what do you require because = their=20 offerings are somewhat different.
 
HGSI has a free 30-day trial if you = take it=20 through their data supplier QP2, see: https= ://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DQP2
 
If you need more time, HGSI has a = 60-day trial=20 for $49, see:
https= ://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DHGS
 
And of course, VectorVest has their = trial, 5=20 weeks at $9.95, see:
http://www.vector= vest.com/stockreport/po.phtml
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sonnie=20 Oratokhai
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 = 9:30=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest = vs.=20 Highgrowth





I am contemplating a subscription to = vector=20 vest mainly because they compute
intrinsic value but I do not have = any=20 experience with Highgrowth stock and I
have heard it mentioned on = this=20 board a couple of times.

Any comments will be=20 = welcome.


Thanks
Sonnie



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------=_NextPart_000_0382_01C2E734.0082C140-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jclark249@comcast.net Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth Date: 10 Mar 2003 20:53:43 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_z/M3T6Sqhm1qAgeLqGWA+A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just signed up to VectorVest yesterday, how are some people using it. Thanks, Joe Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth Sonnie, both services are pretty darn good (yes, I have both). The key is what do you require because their offerings are somewhat different. HGSI has a free 30-day trial if you take it through their data supplier QP2, see: https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=QP2 If you need more time, HGSI has a 60-day trial for $49, see: https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=HGS And of course, VectorVest has their trial, 5 weeks at $9.95, see: http://www.vectorvest.com/stockreport/po.phtml Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sonnie Oratokhai To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth I am contemplating a subscription to vector vest mainly because they compute intrinsic value but I do not have any experience with Highgrowth stock and I have heard it mentioned on this board a couple of times. Any comments will be welcome. Thanks Sonnie _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. --Boundary_(ID_z/M3T6Sqhm1qAgeLqGWA+A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I just signed up to VectorVest yesterday, how are some people using it.
                                                    Thanks,
                                                    Joe Clark
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth

Sonnie, both services are pretty darn good (yes, I have both). The key is what do you require because their offerings are somewhat different.
 
HGSI has a free 30-day trial if you take it through their data supplier QP2, see: https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=QP2
 
If you need more time, HGSI has a 60-day trial for $49, see:
 
And of course, VectorVest has their trial, 5 weeks at $9.95, see:
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:30 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth





I am contemplating a subscription to vector vest mainly because they compute
intrinsic value but I do not have any experience with Highgrowth stock and I
have heard it mentioned on this board a couple of times.

Any comments will be welcome.


Thanks
Sonnie



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--Boundary_(ID_z/M3T6Sqhm1qAgeLqGWA+A)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth Date: 10 Mar 2003 20:24:22 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03FF_01C2E743.0992DCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joe, check out their user group, see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/ Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jclark249@comcast.net=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth I just signed up to VectorVest yesterday, how are some people using = it. Thanks, Joe Clark ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth Sonnie, both services are pretty darn good (yes, I have both). The = key is what do you require because their offerings are somewhat = different. HGSI has a free 30-day trial if you take it through their data = supplier QP2, see: = https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DQP2 If you need more time, HGSI has a 60-day trial for $49, see: https://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DHGS And of course, VectorVest has their trial, 5 weeks at $9.95, see: http://www.vectorvest.com/stockreport/po.phtml Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sonnie Oratokhai=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest vs. Highgrowth I am contemplating a subscription to vector vest mainly because = they compute=20 intrinsic value but I do not have any experience with Highgrowth = stock and I=20 have heard it mentioned on this board a couple of times. Any comments will be welcome. Thanks Sonnie _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.=20 http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_03FF_01C2E743.0992DCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe, check out their user group,=20 see:
http:/= /groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 = 7:53=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = VectorVest vs.=20 Highgrowth

I just signed up to VectorVest yesterday, how are = some=20 people using it.
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20         Thanks,
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;   =20 Joe Clark
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene = Ricci
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 = 7:36=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = VectorVest vs.=20 Highgrowth

Sonnie, both services are pretty = darn good=20 (yes, I have both). The key is what do you require because = their=20 offerings are somewhat different.
 
HGSI has a free 30-day trial if = you take it=20 through their data supplier QP2, see: https= ://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DQP2
 
If you need more time, HGSI has a = 60-day=20 trial for $49, see:
https= ://www.highgrowthstock.com/Order/Trial.asp?from=3DHGS
 
And of course, VectorVest has = their trial, 5=20 weeks at $9.95, see:
http://www.vector= vest.com/stockreport/po.phtml
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sonnie=20 Oratokhai
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, March 10, = 2003 9:30=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] = VectorVest vs.=20 Highgrowth





I am contemplating a subscription = to vector=20 vest mainly because they compute
intrinsic value but I do not = have any=20 experience with Highgrowth stock and I
have heard it mentioned = on this=20 board a couple of times.

Any comments will be=20 = welcome.


Thanks
Sonnie



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------=_NextPart_000_03FF_01C2E743.0992DCC0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jclark249@comcast.net Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 10 Mar 2003 22:04:24 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_3uh+3JLoGI5xq2NdQdDJnw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. Thanks, Joe --Boundary_(ID_3uh+3JLoGI5xq2NdQdDJnw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of
moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about
reading them and viewing them.
                                                                    Thanks,
                                                                    Joe
 
 
--Boundary_(ID_3uh+3JLoGI5xq2NdQdDJnw)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 12:38:10 -0800 Hi all: I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an odd pattern: Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's have had 6 days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, the index went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average volume, the index went down. Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 days. Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume days with no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? Thanks, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 15:28:51 -0500 Ian, My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. So I would read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due external reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy of war with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days when the sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the absence of significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during the months leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war phase was launched) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM Hi all: I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an odd pattern: Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's have had 6 days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, the index went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average volume, the index went down. Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 days. Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume days with no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? Thanks, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Deiter Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 12:42:06 -0800 (PST) Tom, Great idea on the charts leading up to Desert Storm. Suggestions on where charts for late 1990 and 1991 Dow, NASDAQ, and S&P could be found? Thanks, Marc --- Tom Worley wrote: > Ian, > > My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. So > I would > read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due > external > reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy > of war > with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days > when the > sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. > > I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the > absence of > significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. > > Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during > the months > leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war > phase > was launched) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] M > > > Hi all: > > I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an > odd > pattern: > > Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's > have had 6 > days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, > the index > went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average > volume, the > index went down. > > Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 > days. > > Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical > precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume > days with > no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? > > Thanks, > > Ian > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 14:52:07 -0600 Hi Marc, BigCharts has a nice feature which lets you easily zoom in on any time frame you wish. Start at the market summary page: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/markets/indexes.asp Click on the "Interactive" charting option for any of the major indices. Under the customizing features on the left of the chart, select "Time: Custom" and enter the dates for the months leading into the Gulf War. Interesting parallels. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Marc Deiter Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:42 PM Tom, Great idea on the charts leading up to Desert Storm. Suggestions on where charts for late 1990 and 1991 Dow, NASDAQ, and S&P could be found? Thanks, Marc --- Tom Worley wrote: > Ian, > > My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. So > I would > read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due > external > reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy > of war > with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days > when the > sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. > > I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the > absence of > significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. > > Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during > the months > leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war > phase > was launched) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] M > > > Hi all: > > I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an > odd > pattern: > > Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's > have had 6 > days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, > the index > went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average > volume, the > index went down. > > Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 > days. > > Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical > precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume > days with > no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? > > Thanks, > > Ian > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 14:55:46 -0600 Forgot to include a link to the Gulf War timeline in my previous message: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/cron/ Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Marc Deiter Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:42 PM Tom, Great idea on the charts leading up to Desert Storm. Suggestions on where charts for late 1990 and 1991 Dow, NASDAQ, and S&P could be found? Thanks, Marc - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 15:33:56 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C2E7E3.A0E945F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, thanks for your insight. I attended a small seminar by Rittenhouse and they showed how well the market did after wars. I plan to forward it as soon as I get it. Bottom line, their data showed that being in the market (post war) ... was good! Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Ian, My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. So I = would read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due = external reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy of = war with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days when = the sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the = absence of significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during the = months leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war = phase was launched) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] M Hi all: I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an odd pattern: Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's have = had 6 days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, the = index went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average volume, = the index went down. Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 = days. Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume = days with no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? Thanks, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C2E7E3.A0E945F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom, thanks for your insight. I = attended a small=20 seminar by
Rittenhouse and they showed how well = the market=20 did after
wars. I plan to forward it as soon as = I get it.=20 Bottom line, their
data showed that being in the market = (post war)=20 ... was good!
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 2:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Ian,

My impression of the past weeks is that = buyers are=20 disappearing. So I would
read those up days as meaning sellers were = not as=20 motivated due external
reasons (no bad economic reports, some = lessening in=20 the immediacy of war
with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore = appear to me=20 to be days when the
sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers = were=20 still absent.

I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, = even=20 with the absence of
significant buying, have not done more damage = to the=20 indexes.

Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the = indexes=20 during the months
leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan = 1991 when=20 the air war phase
was launched)

----- Original Message=20 -----
From: "Ian" <ianstm@shaw.ca>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] M


Hi=20 all:

I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and = noticed an=20 odd
pattern:

Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 = trading days)=20 the QQQ's have had 6
days of increasing, above-average volume. On = each of=20 these 6 days, the index
went up. On nine of the ten days of = declining,=20 below-average volume, the
index went down.

Overall, the QQQ = is down=20 about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 days.

Does anyone = recognize=20 this pattern and know if there are historical
precedents for the = likely=20 direction from here? Dp all these volume days with
no 'breakout' = forward=20 progress indicate=20 distribution?

Thanks,

Ian



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-"unsubscribe = canslim".  Do=20 not use quotes in your email.



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------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C2E7E3.A0E945F0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 16:45:34 -0500 thanks, Katherine, nice summary. Realized I had forgotten more than I realized, especially considering my younger son was sitting in the sand only yards from the Kuwait border during this timeline. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:55 PM Forgot to include a link to the Gulf War timeline in my previous message: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/cron/ Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Marc Deiter Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:42 PM Tom, Great idea on the charts leading up to Desert Storm. Suggestions on where charts for late 1990 and 1991 Dow, NASDAQ, and S&P could be found? Thanks, Marc - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 16:47:57 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C2E7ED.F8015EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think a lot of people are going to be thinking this, and will be = sorely (and financially disappointed). There will probably be some kind = of a relief bounce once actual war starts. But even if it goes quickly, = and with minimal loss of life and property damage (esp. to the oil = fields), I do not expect the bounce to reverse the bear trend we are = still in. Nor do I expect it to change the economics we continue to see. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:33 PM Tom, thanks for your insight. I attended a small seminar by Rittenhouse and they showed how well the market did after wars. I plan to forward it as soon as I get it. Bottom line, their data showed that being in the market (post war) ... was good! Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Ian, My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. So I = would read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due = external reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy of = war with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days when = the sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the = absence of significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during the = months leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war = phase was launched) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] M Hi all: I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an odd pattern: Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's have = had 6 days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, the = index went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average volume, = the index went down. Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 = days. Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume = days with no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? Thanks, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C2E7ED.F8015EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think a lot of people are going to be thinking = this, and=20 will be sorely (and financially disappointed). There will probably be = some kind=20 of a relief bounce once actual war starts. But even if it goes quickly, = and with=20 minimal loss of life and property damage (esp. to the oil fields), I do = not=20 expect the bounce to reverse the bear trend we are still in. Nor do I = expect it=20 to change the economics we continue to see.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Tom, thanks for your insight. I = attended a small=20 seminar by
Rittenhouse and they showed how well = the market=20 did after
wars. I plan to forward it as soon as = I get it.=20 Bottom line, their
data showed that being in the market = (post war)=20 ... was good!
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 2:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Ian,

My impression of the past weeks is that = buyers are=20 disappearing. So I would
read those up days as meaning sellers were = not as=20 motivated due external
reasons (no bad economic reports, some = lessening in=20 the immediacy of war
with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore = appear to me=20 to be days when the
sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers = were=20 still absent.

I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, = even=20 with the absence of
significant buying, have not done more damage = to the=20 indexes.

Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the = indexes=20 during the months
leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan = 1991 when=20 the air war phase
was launched)

----- Original Message=20 -----
From: "Ian" <ianstm@shaw.ca>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] M


Hi=20 all:

I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and = noticed an=20 odd
pattern:

Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 = trading days)=20 the QQQ's have had 6
days of increasing, above-average volume. On = each of=20 these 6 days, the index
went up. On nine of the ten days of = declining,=20 below-average volume, the
index went down.

Overall, the QQQ = is down=20 about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 days.

Does anyone = recognize=20 this pattern and know if there are historical
precedents for the = likely=20 direction from here? Dp all these volume days with
no 'breakout' = forward=20 progress indicate=20 distribution?

Thanks,

Ian



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------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C2E7ED.F8015EE0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chazmoore@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 16:54:43 EST --part1_a8.19b6681e.2b9fb523_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom: Can't let this slide by without an explanation. Do you mind telling us what you and your son were doing in Kuwait? I'll bet you have an interesting story. Charley --part1_a8.19b6681e.2b9fb523_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom: Can't let this slide= by without an explanation. Do you mind telling us what you and your son wer= e doing in Kuwait? I'll bet you have an interesting story. Charley --part1_a8.19b6681e.2b9fb523_boundary-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Katona" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 13:58:08 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C2E7D6.3EEF4140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is another analysis on the war factor. The chart "Annualized Market Performance Following Key Events" is interesting but I don't fully agree with the rest of their analysis (or sales pitch). http://www.russell.com/US/education_center/ARTicle_library/market_analysis/w arfactor.asp Tim K. -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:48 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M I think a lot of people are going to be thinking this, and will be sorely (and financially disappointed). There will probably be some kind of a relief bounce once actual war starts. But even if it goes quickly, and with minimal loss of life and property damage (esp. to the oil fields), I do not expect the bounce to reverse the bear trend we are still in. Nor do I expect it to change the economics we continue to see. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Tom, thanks for your insight. I attended a small seminar by Rittenhouse and they showed how well the market did after wars. I plan to forward it as soon as I get it. Bottom line, their data showed that being in the market (post war) ... was good! Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Ian, My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. So I would read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due external reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy of war with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days when the sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the absence of significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during the months leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war phase was launched) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] M Hi all: I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an odd pattern: Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's have had 6 days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, the index went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average volume, the index went down. Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 days. Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume days with no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? Thanks, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C2E7D6.3EEF4140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is another = analysis on the war=20 factor. The chart=20 "Annualized Market Performance Following Key Events" is = interesting but I=20 don't fully agree with the rest of their analysis (or sales=20 pitch).
 = ;
http://www.russell.com/US/education_center/ARTic= le_library/market_analysis/warfactor.asp
 
Tim=20 K.
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:48 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 M

I think a lot of people are going to be = thinking this,=20 and will be sorely (and financially disappointed). There will probably = be some=20 kind of a relief bounce once actual war starts. But even if it goes = quickly,=20 and with minimal loss of life and property damage (esp. to the oil = fields), I=20 do not expect the bounce to reverse the bear trend we are still in. = Nor do I=20 expect it to change the economics we continue to see.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Tom, thanks for your insight. I = attended a=20 small seminar by
Rittenhouse and they showed how well = the=20 market did after
wars. I plan to forward it as soon = as I get=20 it. Bottom line, their
data showed that being in the market = (post=20 war) ... was good!
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 2:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = M

Ian,

My impression of the past weeks is that = buyers=20 are disappearing. So I would
read those up days as meaning = sellers were=20 not as motivated due external
reasons (no bad economic reports, = some=20 lessening in the immediacy of war
with Iraq, etc.). The down days = therefore appear to me to be days when the
sellers were more = motivated to=20 sell, and buyers were still absent.

I do find it encouraging = that so=20 far the sellers, even with the absence of
significant buying, = have not=20 done more damage to the indexes.

Best parallel I can suggest = would be=20 to study the indexes during the months
leading up to Desert Storm = beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war phase
was = launched)

-----=20 Original Message -----
From: "Ian" <ianstm@shaw.ca>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] = M


Hi=20 all:

I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and = noticed an=20 odd
pattern:

Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 = trading=20 days) the QQQ's have had 6
days of increasing, above-average = volume. On=20 each of these 6 days, the index
went up. On nine of the ten days = of=20 declining, below-average volume, the
index went = down.

Overall, the=20 QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 = days.

Does=20 anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are = historical
precedents=20 for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume days = with
no=20 'breakout' forward progress indicate=20 distribution?

Thanks,

Ian



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------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C2E7D6.3EEF4140-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 17:08:24 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0125_01C2E7F0.D33490C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My son was in the Navy (Seebees) and was busy building fake tanks along = the border (when he wasn't diving into a chemical protection suit as he = leapt into a bunker) prior to the coalition invasion of Kuwait. I was = not there, I did my time in Nam, and spent this war trying to make money = for clients in the market, and worrying about my son on the front lines. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:54 PM Tom: Can't let this slide by without an explanation. Do you mind telling = us what you and your son were doing in Kuwait? I'll bet you have an = interesting story. Charley ------=_NextPart_000_0125_01C2E7F0.D33490C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My son was in the Navy (Seebees) and was busy = building=20 fake tanks along the border (when he wasn't diving into a chemical = protection=20 suit as he leapt into a bunker) prior to the coalition invasion of = Kuwait. I was=20 not there, I did my time in Nam, and spent this war trying to make money = for=20 clients in the market, and worrying about my son on the front=20 lines.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chazmoore@aol.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Tom: Can't = let this slide=20 by without an explanation. Do you mind telling us what you and your son = were=20 doing in Kuwait? I'll bet you have an interesting story. Charley=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0125_01C2E7F0.D33490C0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 16:15:30 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C2E7E9.6F682E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim, your article's charts look almost the same as those shown by = Rittenhouse. Their seminar was on 2/27 and I'm curious to see if/how = they will tie. They also talked about the economy pre-war as well. Thanks for the link, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tim Katona=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M Here is another analysis on the war factor. The chart "Annualized = Market Performance Following Key Events" is interesting but I don't = fully agree with the rest of their analysis (or sales pitch). = http://www.russell.com/US/education_center/ARTicle_library/market_analysi= s/warfactor.asp Tim K. -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:48 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M I think a lot of people are going to be thinking this, and will be = sorely (and financially disappointed). There will probably be some kind = of a relief bounce once actual war starts. But even if it goes quickly, = and with minimal loss of life and property damage (esp. to the oil = fields), I do not expect the bounce to reverse the bear trend we are = still in. Nor do I expect it to change the economics we continue to see. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Tom, thanks for your insight. I attended a small seminar by Rittenhouse and they showed how well the market did after wars. I plan to forward it as soon as I get it. Bottom line, their data showed that being in the market (post war) ... was good! Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Ian, My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. = So I would read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due = external reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy = of war with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days = when the sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the = absence of significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during = the months leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air = war phase was launched) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] M Hi all: I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an = odd pattern: Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's = have had 6 days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, = the index went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average = volume, the index went down. Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 = days. Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are = historical precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume = days with no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? Thanks, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C2E7E9.6F682E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tim, your article's charts look almost = the same=20 as those shown by Rittenhouse. Their seminar was on 2/27 and I'm = curious to=20 see if/how they will tie. They also talked about the economy pre-war as=20 well.
 
Thanks for the link,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tim=20 Katona
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 3:58=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M

Here is another = analysis on the=20 war factor. The chart "Annualized Market Performance = Following Key=20 Events" is interesting but I don't fully agree with the rest of their = analysis=20 (or sales = pitch).
 = ;
http://www.russell.com/US/education_center/ARTic= le_library/market_analysis/warfactor.asp
 
Tim=20 K.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:48 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 M

I think a lot of people are going to be = thinking this,=20 and will be sorely (and financially disappointed). There will = probably be=20 some kind of a relief bounce once actual war starts. But even if it = goes=20 quickly, and with minimal loss of life and property damage (esp. to = the oil=20 fields), I do not expect the bounce to reverse the bear trend we are = still=20 in. Nor do I expect it to change the economics we continue to=20 see.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Gene = Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Tom, thanks for your insight. I = attended a=20 small seminar by
Rittenhouse and they showed how = well the=20 market did after
wars. I plan to forward it as soon = as I get=20 it. Bottom line, their
data showed that being in the = market (post=20 war) ... was good!
 
Gene
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, = 2003 2:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = M

Ian,

My impression of the past weeks is that = buyers=20 are disappearing. So I would
read those up days as meaning = sellers were=20 not as motivated due external
reasons (no bad economic reports, = some=20 lessening in the immediacy of war
with Iraq, etc.). The down = days=20 therefore appear to me to be days when the
sellers were more = motivated=20 to sell, and buyers were still absent.

I do find it = encouraging=20 that so far the sellers, even with the absence of
significant = buying,=20 have not done more damage to the indexes.

Best parallel I = can=20 suggest would be to study the indexes during the months
leading = up to=20 Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war phase
was = launched)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian" = <ianstm@shaw.ca>
To: = <canslim@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] = M


Hi=20 all:

I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and = noticed=20 an odd
pattern:

Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 = trading=20 days) the QQQ's have had 6
days of increasing, above-average = volume. On=20 each of these 6 days, the index
went up. On nine of the ten = days of=20 declining, below-average volume, the
index went = down.

Overall,=20 the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16=20 days.

Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there = are=20 historical
precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp = all these=20 volume days with
no 'breakout' forward progress indicate=20 distribution?

Thanks,

Ian



-
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-"unsubscribe=20 canslim".  Do not use quotes in your = email.



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Joe, here are some = good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of free=20 stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 = 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot points=20 and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point = price of=20
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing them.
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20         Thanks,
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20         Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C2E7EB.FE532D70-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Gibbons" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 11 Mar 2003 13:01:46 -1000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01C2E7CE.5F3233C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: jclark249@comcast.net To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. Thanks, Joe ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01C2E7CE.5F3233C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site as = Gene=20 didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's=20 question.
 
www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot = points for=20 cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational material about CANSLIM = stocks=20 and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free=20 trial.
 
As a=20 return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, members of = this=20 discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or look=20 for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).
 
 
Aloha,
 
Mike = Gibbons
Proactive = Technologies,=20 LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Joe, here are some=20 good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of free=20 stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net =
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 = 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot points=20 and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point = price of=20
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing them.
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20         Thanks,
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20         Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0121_01C2E7CE.5F3233C0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robin Gridley" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 11 Mar 2003 15:09:10 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2E7E0.2B5868A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: jclark249@comcast.net To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. Thanks, Joe ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2E7E0.2B5868A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gene... How COULD = you!!!=20 ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike=20 Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

I=20 hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site = as Gene=20 didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's=20 question.
 
www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot = points for=20 cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational material about = CANSLIM=20 stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free=20 trial.
 
As=20 a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, members = of this=20 discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or look=20 for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).
 
 
Aloha,
 
Mike = Gibbons
Proactive = Technologies,=20 LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Joe, here are some=20 good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of=20 free stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net =
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, March 10, = 2003 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot = point price of=20
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing them.
        =    =20            =20            =20            =20            =20         Thanks,
        =    =20            =20            =20            =20            =20         Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2E7E0.2B5868A0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Lackey Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 18:03:36 -0800 (PST) Hey I am a gulf war Vet. I was 4-67 Armor..On tanks.. anyways does anyone have any kids or friends in the desert ready for battle? I have a list of guys that would like to send along some goodies...As Summer is going to be hell..After the war all the excitement is over. Just left in the desert with bottled water and MRE's..We want to keep those packages going..LACK --- Tom Worley wrote: > I think a lot of people are going to be thinking this, and will be sorely > (and financially disappointed). There will probably be some kind of a > relief bounce once actual war starts. But even if it goes quickly, and > with minimal loss of life and property damage (esp. to the oil fields), I > do not expect the bounce to reverse the bear trend we are still in. Nor do > I expect it to change the economics we continue to see. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gene Ricci > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M > > > Tom, thanks for your insight. I attended a small seminar by > Rittenhouse and they showed how well the market did after > wars. I plan to forward it as soon as I get it. Bottom line, their > data showed that being in the market (post war) ... was good! > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Worley > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M > > > Ian, > > My impression of the past weeks is that buyers are disappearing. So I > would > read those up days as meaning sellers were not as motivated due external > reasons (no bad economic reports, some lessening in the immediacy of war > with Iraq, etc.). The down days therefore appear to me to be days when > the > sellers were more motivated to sell, and buyers were still absent. > > I do find it encouraging that so far the sellers, even with the absence > of > significant buying, have not done more damage to the indexes. > > Best parallel I can suggest would be to study the indexes during the > months > leading up to Desert Storm beginning (mid Jan 1991 when the air war > phase > was launched) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:38 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] M > > > Hi all: > > I was just looking at a chart of QQQ (NASDAQ-100) and noticed an odd > pattern: > > Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's have > had 6 > days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, the > index > went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average volume, the > index went down. > > Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 days. > > Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical > precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume days > with > no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? > > Thanks, > > Ian > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 11 Mar 2003 21:59:20 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C7_01C2E819.77F35F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not = only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have = commented on how useful it is ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site = as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns and = there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle = chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, = members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart = selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jclark249@comcast.net=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of=20 moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. = Thanks, = Joe ------=_NextPart_000_01C7_01C2E819.77F35F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, = not only=20 has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have commented = on how=20 useful it is
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Robin=20 Gridley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and = charts

Gene... How COULD = you!!!=20 ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike=20 Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20 RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts

I=20 hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site = as Gene=20 didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's=20 question.
 
www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot = points for=20 cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational material about = CANSLIM=20 stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free=20 trial.
 
As=20 a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, members = of this=20 discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or look=20 for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).
 
 
Aloha,
 
Mike = Gibbons
Proactive = Technologies,=20 LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Joe, here are some=20 good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of=20 free stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net =
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, March 10, = 2003 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot = point price of=20
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing them.
        =    =20            =20            =20            =20            =20         Thanks,
        =    =20            =20            =20            =20            =20         Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01C7_01C2E819.77F35F60-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 11 Mar 2003 22:38:26 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05E6_01C2E81E.EE5A8D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I focus on support and resistance and a few indicators. The last thing I = think of when I look at a chart is terminology like LLUR, CWH, CWS, H&S = ... (and All That Jazz, yes I just saw the movie Chicago). Trying to = recognize one of those patterns is like seeing a butterfly while taking = a Rorschach test. Since I don't use 'exotic' patterns to trade I don't = think of... or use sites that specialize in them. I have and continue = to use the sites that I listed. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not = only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have = commented on how useful it is ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robin Gridley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) = site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's = question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns = and there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and = cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, = members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart = selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jclark249@comcast.net=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of=20 moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. = Thanks, = Joe ------=_NextPart_000_05E6_01C2E81E.EE5A8D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I focus on support and resistance and = a few=20 indicators. The last thing I think of when I look at a chart is = terminology=20 like LLUR, CWH, CWS, H&S ... (and All That Jazz, yes I = just saw=20 the movie Chicago). Trying to recognize one of those patterns is like = seeing a=20 butterfly while taking a Rorschach test. Since I don't use 'exotic' = patterns to=20 trade I don't think of...  or use sites that specialize = in them.=20 I have and continue to use the sites that I listed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 8:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, = not only=20 has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have commented = on how=20 useful it is
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Robin=20 Gridley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and = charts

Gene... How COULD = you!!!=20 ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike=20 Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 = PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20 RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts

I=20 hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site = as Gene=20 didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's=20 question.
 
www.cwhcharts.com = shows pivot=20 points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational = material about=20 CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day = free=20 trial.
 
As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this = group,=20 members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or=20 look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).
 
 
Aloha,
 
Mike = Gibbons
Proactive = Technologies,=20 LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 = PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

Joe, here are some=20 good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of=20 free stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net =
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, March 10, = 2003 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot = point price=20 of
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing them.
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Thanks,
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_05E6_01C2E81E.EE5A8D90-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 12 Mar 2003 06:44:23 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2E862.D16F3340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gene, just woke up so may be a little fuzzy still, but I am surprised at = your response. Reading charts, and recognizing patterns such as a cup & = handle, is fundamental to CANSLIM, which is what this group is all = about. And the HGS site, which you mention using in the past, even = copying one of their newsletters for Nancy, also focuses on chart = patterns such as c&h as well as LLUR. The link you posted to their = recent newsletter was specifically on a stock with good ROE and a LLUR = pattern. These chart patterns show support and resistance information = quite clearly once you know how to read charts, so I am puzzled why you = would ignore them. Maybe you could elaborate on just what patterns you do search for, and = whether you are using this for day / short term trading versus longer = term investing. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:38 PM I focus on support and resistance and a few indicators. The last thing I = think of when I look at a chart is terminology like LLUR, CWH, CWS, H&S = ... (and All That Jazz, yes I just saw the movie Chicago). Trying to = recognize one of those patterns is like seeing a butterfly while taking = a Rorschach test. Since I don't use 'exotic' patterns to trade I don't = think of... or use sites that specialize in them. I have and continue = to use the sites that I listed. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not = only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have = commented on how useful it is ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robin Gridley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) = site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's = question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns = and there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and = cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, = members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart = selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jclark249@comcast.net=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of=20 moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. = Thanks, = Joe ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2E862.D16F3340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gene, just woke up so may be a little fuzzy still, but I am = surprised at=20 your response. Reading charts, and recognizing patterns such as a cup = &=20 handle, is fundamental to CANSLIM, which is what this group is all = about. And=20 the HGS site, which you mention using in the past, even copying one of = their=20 newsletters for Nancy, also focuses on chart patterns such as c&h as = well as=20 LLUR. The link you posted to their recent newsletter was specifically on = a stock=20 with good ROE and a LLUR pattern. These chart patterns show support and=20 resistance information quite clearly once you know how to read charts, = so I am=20 puzzled why you would ignore them.
 
Maybe you could elaborate on just what patterns you do search for, = and=20 whether you are using this for day / short term trading versus longer = term=20 investing.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and = charts

I focus on support and resistance and = a few=20 indicators. The last thing I think of when I look at a chart is = terminology=20 like LLUR, CWH, CWS, H&S ... (and All That Jazz, yes I = just saw=20 the movie Chicago). Trying to recognize one of those patterns is like = seeing a=20 butterfly while taking a Rorschach test. Since I don't use 'exotic' = patterns to=20 trade I don't think of...  or use sites that specialize = in them.=20 I have and continue to use the sites that I listed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 8:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, = not only=20 has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have commented = on how=20 useful it is
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Robin=20 Gridley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and = charts

Gene... How COULD = you!!!=20 ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike=20 Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 = PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20 RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts

I=20 hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site = as Gene=20 didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's=20 question.
 
www.cwhcharts.com = shows pivot=20 points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational = material about=20 CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day = free=20 trial.
 
As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this = group,=20 members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or=20 look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).
 
 
Aloha,
 
Mike = Gibbons
Proactive = Technologies,=20 LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 = PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

Joe, here are some=20 good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of=20 free stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net =
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, March 10, = 2003 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot = point price=20 of
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing them.
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Thanks,
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2E862.D16F3340-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Richards" Subject: [CANSLIM] The Acc/Dis A's from IBD are dropping! Date: 12 Mar 2003 06:28:25 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2E860.99BF49F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The number of A rated stocks in IBD's Accumulate/Distribution ratings have headed south. We have posted the updated charts at: http://www.adrich.com/SI/Info/A's.htm Momentum seems definitely on the down side and the number of highly rated stocks under accumulation continues to fall. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2E860.99BF49F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
The = number of A=20 rated stocks in IBD's Accumulate/Distribution ratings have headed = south. =20 We have posted the updated charts at:
 
http://www.adrich.com/SI/I= nfo/A's.htm
 
Momentum seems=20 definitely on the down side and the number of highly rated stocks under=20 accumulation continues to fall. 
------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2E860.99BF49F0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 12 Mar 2003 09:22:28 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0895_01C2E878.E6854B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom,=20 a) I saw a request for information b) Saw that several members had posted other info but did not respond to = it c) I thought to help d) I clicked on My Favorites e) I pasted 5 URL's in a response f) Added a comment about cost g) Hit Send If you prefer that I don't supply information in the future, please = contact me offline. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Gene, just woke up so may be a little fuzzy still, but I am surprised = at your response. Reading charts, and recognizing patterns such as a cup = & handle, is fundamental to CANSLIM, which is what this group is all = about. And the HGS site, which you mention using in the past, even = copying one of their newsletters for Nancy, also focuses on chart = patterns such as c&h as well as LLUR. The link you posted to their = recent newsletter was specifically on a stock with good ROE and a LLUR = pattern. These chart patterns show support and resistance information = quite clearly once you know how to read charts, so I am puzzled why you = would ignore them. Maybe you could elaborate on just what patterns you do search for, and = whether you are using this for day / short term trading versus longer = term investing. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I focus on support and resistance and a few indicators. The last thing = I think of when I look at a chart is terminology like LLUR, CWH, CWS, = H&S ... (and All That Jazz, yes I just saw the movie Chicago). Trying to = recognize one of those patterns is like seeing a butterfly while taking = a Rorschach test. Since I don't use 'exotic' patterns to trade I don't = think of... or use sites that specialize in them. I have and continue = to use the sites that I listed. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not = only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have = commented on how useful it is ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robin Gridley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) = site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's = question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns = and there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and = cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, = members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart = selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jclark249@comcast.net=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of=20 moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. = Thanks, = Joe ------=_NextPart_000_0895_01C2E878.E6854B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom,
a) I saw a request for = information
b) Saw that several members had posted = other=20 info but did not respond to it
c) I thought to help
d) I clicked on My = Favorites
e) I pasted 5 URL's in a=20 response
f) Added a comment about = cost
g) Hit Send
 
If you prefer that I don't supply = information in=20 the future, please contact me offline.
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 = 5:44=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Gene, just woke up so may be a little fuzzy still, but I am = surprised at=20 your response. Reading charts, and recognizing patterns such as a cup = &=20 handle, is fundamental to CANSLIM, which is what this group is all = about. And=20 the HGS site, which you mention using in the past, even copying one of = their=20 newsletters for Nancy, also focuses on chart patterns such as c&h = as well=20 as LLUR. The link you posted to their recent newsletter was = specifically on a=20 stock with good ROE and a LLUR pattern. These chart patterns show = support and=20 resistance information quite clearly once you know how to read charts, = so I am=20 puzzled why you would ignore them.
 
Maybe you could elaborate on just what patterns you do search = for, and=20 whether you are using this for day / short term trading versus longer = term=20 investing.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and = charts

I focus on support and resistance = and a few=20 indicators. The last thing I think of when I look at a chart is = terminology=20 like LLUR, CWH, CWS, H&S ... (and All That Jazz, yes I = just=20 saw the movie Chicago). Trying to recognize one of those patterns is = like=20 seeing a butterfly while taking a Rorschach test. Since I don't use = 'exotic'=20 patterns to trade I don't think of...  or use sites = that=20 specialize in them. I have and continue to use the sites that I=20 listed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 8:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts = site, not=20 only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have = commented=20 on how useful it is
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Robin=20 Gridley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and=20 charts

Gene... How = COULD you!!!=20 ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike=20 Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 = PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20 RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts

I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and = myself)=20 site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of = Joe's=20 question.
 
www.cwhcharts.com shows=20 pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational = material about CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. = There's=20 a 7-day free trial.
 
As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this = group,=20 members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or=20 look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).
 
 
Aloha,
 
Mike = Gibbons
Proactive = Technologies,=20 LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 = PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info = on=20 pivot points and charts

Joe, here are some=20 good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of free stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, March 10, = 2003 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot = point=20 price of
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing = them.
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Thanks,
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0895_01C2E878.E6854B50-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 12 Mar 2003 10:40:13 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01C2E883.C35EE090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gee, Gene, don't be so sensitive. I didn't understand your comment, and = politely asked you to elaborate on what you do use if you don't use = chart patterns like cup & handle. If you choose to keep your methods = secret, just say so. That's your right. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:22 AM Tom,=20 a) I saw a request for information b) Saw that several members had posted other info but did not respond to = it c) I thought to help d) I clicked on My Favorites e) I pasted 5 URL's in a response f) Added a comment about cost g) Hit Send If you prefer that I don't supply information in the future, please = contact me offline. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Gene, just woke up so may be a little fuzzy still, but I am surprised = at your response. Reading charts, and recognizing patterns such as a cup = & handle, is fundamental to CANSLIM, which is what this group is all = about. And the HGS site, which you mention using in the past, even = copying one of their newsletters for Nancy, also focuses on chart = patterns such as c&h as well as LLUR. The link you posted to their = recent newsletter was specifically on a stock with good ROE and a LLUR = pattern. These chart patterns show support and resistance information = quite clearly once you know how to read charts, so I am puzzled why you = would ignore them. Maybe you could elaborate on just what patterns you do search for, and = whether you are using this for day / short term trading versus longer = term investing. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I focus on support and resistance and a few indicators. The last thing = I think of when I look at a chart is terminology like LLUR, CWH, CWS, = H&S ... (and All That Jazz, yes I just saw the movie Chicago). Trying to = recognize one of those patterns is like seeing a butterfly while taking = a Rorschach test. Since I don't use 'exotic' patterns to trade I don't = think of... or use sites that specialize in them. I have and continue = to use the sites that I listed. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not = only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have = commented on how useful it is ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robin Gridley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) = site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's = question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns = and there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and = cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, = members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart = selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jclark249@comcast.net=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of=20 moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. = Thanks, = Joe ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01C2E883.C35EE090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gee, Gene, don't be so sensitive. I didn't understand your comment, = and=20 politely asked you to elaborate on what you do use if you don't use = chart=20 patterns like cup & handle. If you choose to keep your methods = secret, just=20 say so. That's your right.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and = charts

Tom,
a) I saw a request for = information
b) Saw that several members had posted = other=20 info but did not respond to it
c) I thought to help
d) I clicked on My = Favorites
e) I pasted 5 URL's in a=20 response
f) Added a comment about = cost
g) Hit Send
 
If you prefer that I don't supply = information in=20 the future, please contact me offline.
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 = 5:44=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Gene, just woke up so may be a little fuzzy still, but I am = surprised at=20 your response. Reading charts, and recognizing patterns such as a cup = &=20 handle, is fundamental to CANSLIM, which is what this group is all = about. And=20 the HGS site, which you mention using in the past, even copying one of = their=20 newsletters for Nancy, also focuses on chart patterns such as c&h = as well=20 as LLUR. The link you posted to their recent newsletter was = specifically on a=20 stock with good ROE and a LLUR pattern. These chart patterns show = support and=20 resistance information quite clearly once you know how to read charts, = so I am=20 puzzled why you would ignore them.
 
Maybe you could elaborate on just what patterns you do search = for, and=20 whether you are using this for day / short term trading versus longer = term=20 investing.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and = charts

I focus on support and resistance = and a few=20 indicators. The last thing I think of when I look at a chart is = terminology=20 like LLUR, CWH, CWS, H&S ... (and All That Jazz, yes I = just=20 saw the movie Chicago). Trying to recognize one of those patterns is = like=20 seeing a butterfly while taking a Rorschach test. Since I don't use = 'exotic'=20 patterns to trade I don't think of...  or use sites = that=20 specialize in them. I have and continue to use the sites that I=20 listed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 8:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts = site, not=20 only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have = commented=20 on how useful it is
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Robin=20 Gridley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and=20 charts

Gene... How = COULD you!!!=20 ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike=20 Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 = PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20 RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts

I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and = myself)=20 site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of = Joe's=20 question.
 
www.cwhcharts.com shows=20 pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational = material about CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. = There's=20 a 7-day free trial.
 
As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this = group,=20 members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator = (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or=20 look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).
 
 
Aloha,
 
Mike = Gibbons
Proactive = Technologies,=20 LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 = PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info = on=20 pivot points and charts

Joe, here are some=20 good sites:
 
http://pring.com/tradersden.htm<= /A> (loads=20 of free stuff)
 
http://pring.com/movies.htm = ;(all=20 free)
 
http://www.equis.com/Educat= ion/TAAZ/ =20 (all free)
 
http://stockcharts.com/ (loads = of free stuff)
 
http://www.stockconsultant.com/<= /A>  =20 (5 charts-analysis/day free)
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 jclark249@comcast.net
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Monday, March 10, = 2003 9:04=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] info = on pivot=20 points and charts

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot = point=20 price of
moving stocks, and good site for charting, = learning=20 about
reading them and viewing = them.
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Thanks,
       =20            =20            =20            =20            =20            =20 Joe
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0101_01C2E883.C35EE090-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] OVTI Date: 12 Mar 2003 11:55:41 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2E88E.4DF42080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ed, You seem to have a knack for finding excellent stocks. This one's been on my radar for a while and particularly during recent weeks while it's continued to show real strength in a lousy "M". In our fundamental scoring system, it receives an 8.5 out of a possible 11 and scores in the top 10 in the industry in *both* fundamental and technical scores. (Other stocks that also score top 10 on both accounts are SLAB, ARTI and ICST). The chart is refreshingly strong, all the more important as a stock like this that bucks the trend during the worst of times will most likely outperform during the best of times. See an annotated chart at: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/OVTI031103.JPG showing the textbook cup with handle consolidation pattern, rising RSLine, consistently high RSRank and strong U/D ratio. I also show an Acculation/Distribution ratio over the last 15 days at 1.33. Below is a list of stocks in the industry with Price>=$6, ADV>=30000, sorted in RSRank order. --Katherine Symbol Company RS SLAB Silicon Labs 87 ARTI Artisan Cpnts 86 ICST Integrtd CrtSy 85 MXIM Maxim IntdPds 47 LLTC Linear Tech 59 OVTI OmniVsion Tech 97 ADI Analog Devcs 47 OIIM 0 2Micro 18 STM STMicroelectrn 26 MOSY Monolithic Sys 9 WEDC White Elec. 47 ALTR Altera Corp. 42 POWI Power Intgrtns 84 ZRAN Zoran Corp. 13 XLNX Xilinx Inc 52 INTC Intel 33 SNDK Sandisk Corp. 52 TSM Taiwan SemiADR 19 CREE Cree Inc 69 FCS Fairchild Semi 20 ACTL Actel Corp 56 SWKS Skyworks Soltn 22 SMTC Semtech Corp. 47 IFX Infineon ADR 10 PXLW Pixelworks Inc 56 EXAR Exar Corp 34 MRVL Marvell Tech 32 RMBS Rambus Inc. 99 NSM Nat'l Semi 44 IDCC InterDigital 85 TXN Texas Instr 30 DSPG D S P Group 46 SMSC Std. MicroSys 17 IRF Int'l Rectifr 29 ISIL Intersil CorpA 25 ESST E S S Tech 13 MU Micron Tech. 5 BRCM Broadcom Corp. 26 PSEM Pericom Semi 38 GNSS Genesis Micro 49 CY Cypress Semi 15 LSCC Lattice Semi 20 MSCC Microsemi Corp 80 MCRL Micrel Inc. 30 CLTK Celeritek Inc. 54 IDTI Integr Device 13 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Edward W. Gjertsen II Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:47 PM Any comments on OVTI? Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM Tom: Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in all literature has ever had such significance)! jans In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right in front of the word "Former". >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2E88E.4DF42080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ed,
 
You seem to have a knack for finding excellent stocks. This one's = been on=20 my radar for a while and particularly during recent weeks while it's = continued=20 to show real strength in a lousy "M". In our fundamental scoring system, = it=20 receives an 8.5 out of a possible 11 and scores in the top 10 in the = industry in=20 *both* fundamental and technical scores. (Other stocks that also score = top 10 on=20 both accounts are SLAB, ARTI and ICST). The chart is refreshingly = strong, all=20 the more important as a stock like this that bucks the trend during the = worst of=20 times will most likely outperform during the best of times.
 
See an annotated chart at: http://www.cwh= charts.com/katherine/OVTI031103.JPG showing=20 the textbook cup with handle consolidation pattern, rising RSLine, = consistently=20 high RSRank and strong U/D ratio. I also show an Acculation/Distribution = ratio=20 over the last 15 days at 1.33.
 
Below is a list of stocks in the industry with Price>=3D$6, = ADV>=3D30000,=20 sorted in RSRank order.
 
--Katherine 
 
 
SLAB Silicon Labs ARTI Artisan Cpnts ICST Integrtd CrtSy MXIM Maxim IntdPds LLTC Linear Tech OVTI OmniVsion Tech ADI Analog Devcs OIIM 0 2Micro STM STMicroelectrn MOSY Monolithic Sys WEDC White Elec. ALTR Altera Corp. POWI Power Intgrtns ZRAN Zoran Corp. XLNX Xilinx Inc INTC Intel SNDK Sandisk Corp. TSM Taiwan SemiADR CREE Cree Inc FCS Fairchild Semi ACTL Actel Corp SWKS Skyworks Soltn SMTC Semtech Corp. IFX Infineon ADR PXLW Pixelworks Inc EXAR Exar Corp MRVL Marvell Tech RMBS Rambus Inc. NSM Nat'l Semi IDCC InterDigital TXN Texas Instr DSPG D S P Group SMSC Std. MicroSys IRF Int'l Rectifr ISIL Intersil CorpA ESST E S S Tech MU Micron Tech. BRCM Broadcom Corp. PSEM Pericom Semi GNSS Genesis Micro CY Cypress Semi LSCC Lattice Semi MSCC Microsemi Corp MCRL Micrel Inc. CLTK Celeritek Inc. IDTI Integr Device
Symbol Company RS
87
86
85
47
59
97
47
18
26
9
47
42
84
13
52
33
52
19
69
20
56
22
47
10
56
34
32
99
44
85
30
46
17
29
25
13
5
26
38
49
15
20
80
30
54
13


-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com]On=20 Behalf Of Edward W. Gjertsen
II
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 = 1:47=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = OVTI


Any=20 comments on OVTI?


Ed Gjertsen=20 II
ed@macktracks.com


Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail = message,=20 including any attachments,
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-----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 = PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 AMI

Tom:

     Thanks.  That's a = very good=20 point (I wonder if the word"former" in
all
literature has ever had = such=20 significance)!

jans


In a message dated 2/27/2003 = 10:01:46 PM=20 Eastern Standard Time,
stkguru@bellsouth.net writes:

<< = You=20 should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right=20 in
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 of the word "Former".  = >>

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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2E88E.4DF42080-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] OVTI Date: 12 Mar 2003 12:03:31 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2E88F.66303D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops... Here's the industry sorted by RSRank: Symbol Company RS RMBS Rambus Inc. 99 OVTI OmniVsion Tech 97 SLAB Silicon Labs 87 ARTI Artisan Cpnts 86 ICST Integrtd CrtSy 85 IDCC InterDigital 85 POWI Power Intgrtns 84 MSCC Microsemi Corp 80 CREE Cree Inc 69 LLTC Linear Tech 59 ACTL Actel Corp 56 PXLW Pixelworks Inc 56 CLTK Celeritek Inc. 54 XLNX Xilinx Inc 52 SNDK Sandisk Corp. 52 GNSS Genesis Micro 49 MXIM Maxim IntdPds 47 ADI Analog Devcs 47 WEDC White Elec. 47 SMTC Semtech Corp. 47 DSPG D S P Group 46 NSM Nat'l Semi 44 ALTR Altera Corp. 42 PSEM Pericom Semi 38 EXAR Exar Corp 34 INTC Intel 33 MRVL Marvell Tech 32 TXN Texas Instr 30 MCRL Micrel Inc. 30 IRF Int'l Rectifr 29 STM STMicroelectrn 26 BRCM Broadcom Corp. 26 ISIL Intersil CorpA 25 SWKS Skyworks Soltn 22 FCS Fairchild Semi 20 LSCC Lattice Semi 20 TSM Taiwan SemiADR 19 OIIM 0 2Micro 18 SMSC Std. MicroSys 17 CY Cypress Semi 15 ZRAN Zoran Corp. 13 ESST E S S Tech 13 IDTI Integr Device 13 IFX Infineon ADR 10 MOSY Monolithic Sys 9 MU Micron Tech. 5 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:56 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] OVTI Hi Ed, You seem to have a knack for finding excellent stocks. This one's been on my radar for a while and particularly during recent weeks while it's continued to show real strength in a lousy "M". In our fundamental scoring system, it receives an 8.5 out of a possible 11 and scores in the top 10 in the industry in *both* fundamental and technical scores. (Other stocks that also score top 10 on both accounts are SLAB, ARTI and ICST). The chart is refreshingly strong, all the more important as a stock like this that bucks the trend during the worst of times will most likely outperform during the best of times. See an annotated chart at: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/OVTI031103.JPG showing the textbook cup with handle consolidation pattern, rising RSLine, consistently high RSRank and strong U/D ratio. I also show an Acculation/Distribution ratio over the last 15 days at 1.33. Below is a list of stocks in the industry with Price>=$6, ADV>=30000, sorted in RSRank order. --Katherine Symbol Company RS SLAB Silicon Labs 87 ARTI Artisan Cpnts 86 ICST Integrtd CrtSy 85 MXIM Maxim IntdPds 47 LLTC Linear Tech 59 OVTI OmniVsion Tech 97 ADI Analog Devcs 47 OIIM 0 2Micro 18 STM STMicroelectrn 26 MOSY Monolithic Sys 9 WEDC White Elec. 47 ALTR Altera Corp. 42 POWI Power Intgrtns 84 ZRAN Zoran Corp. 13 XLNX Xilinx Inc 52 INTC Intel 33 SNDK Sandisk Corp. 52 TSM Taiwan SemiADR 19 CREE Cree Inc 69 FCS Fairchild Semi 20 ACTL Actel Corp 56 SWKS Skyworks Soltn 22 SMTC Semtech Corp. 47 IFX Infineon ADR 10 PXLW Pixelworks Inc 56 EXAR Exar Corp 34 MRVL Marvell Tech 32 RMBS Rambus Inc. 99 NSM Nat'l Semi 44 IDCC InterDigital 85 TXN Texas Instr 30 DSPG D S P Group 46 SMSC Std. MicroSys 17 IRF Int'l Rectifr 29 ISIL Intersil CorpA 25 ESST E S S Tech 13 MU Micron Tech. 5 BRCM Broadcom Corp. 26 PSEM Pericom Semi 38 GNSS Genesis Micro 49 CY Cypress Semi 15 LSCC Lattice Semi 20 MSCC Microsemi Corp 80 MCRL Micrel Inc. 30 CLTK Celeritek Inc. 54 IDTI Integr Device 13 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Edward W. Gjertsen II Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:47 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] OVTI Any comments on OVTI? Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AMI Tom: Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in all literature has ever had such significance)! jans In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right in front of the word "Former". >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Here's the industry sorted by=20 RSRank:
RMBS Rambus Inc. OVTI OmniVsion Tech SLAB Silicon Labs ARTI Artisan Cpnts ICST Integrtd CrtSy IDCC InterDigital POWI Power Intgrtns MSCC Microsemi Corp CREE Cree Inc LLTC Linear Tech ACTL Actel Corp PXLW Pixelworks Inc CLTK Celeritek Inc. XLNX Xilinx Inc SNDK Sandisk Corp. GNSS Genesis Micro MXIM Maxim IntdPds ADI Analog Devcs WEDC White Elec. SMTC Semtech Corp. DSPG D S P Group NSM Nat'l Semi ALTR Altera Corp. PSEM Pericom Semi EXAR Exar Corp INTC Intel MRVL Marvell Tech TXN Texas Instr MCRL Micrel Inc. IRF Int'l Rectifr STM STMicroelectrn BRCM Broadcom Corp. ISIL Intersil CorpA SWKS Skyworks Soltn FCS Fairchild Semi LSCC Lattice Semi TSM Taiwan SemiADR OIIM 0 2Micro SMSC Std. MicroSys CY Cypress Semi ZRAN Zoran Corp. ESST E S S Tech IDTI Integr Device IFX Infineon ADR MOSY Monolithic Sys MU Micron Tech.
Symbol Company RS
99
97
87
86
85
85
84
80
69
59
56
56
54
52
52
49
47
47
47
47
46
44
42
38
34
33
32
30
30
29
26
26
25
22
20
20
19
18
17
15
13
13
13
10
9
5
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine = Malm
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:56 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM]=20 OVTI

Hi Ed,
 
You seem to have a knack for finding excellent stocks. This one's = been on=20 my radar for a while and particularly during recent weeks while it's = continued=20 to show real strength in a lousy "M". In our fundamental scoring = system, it=20 receives an 8.5 out of a possible 11 and scores in the top 10 in the = industry=20 in *both* fundamental and technical scores. (Other stocks that also = score top=20 10 on both accounts are SLAB, ARTI and ICST). The chart is = refreshingly=20 strong, all the more important as a stock like this that bucks the = trend=20 during the worst of times will most likely outperform during the best = of=20 times.
 
See an annotated chart at: http://www.cwh= charts.com/katherine/OVTI031103.JPG showing=20 the textbook cup with handle consolidation pattern, rising RSLine,=20 consistently high RSRank and strong U/D ratio. I also show an=20 Acculation/Distribution ratio over the last 15 days at 1.33.
 
Below is a list of stocks in the industry with Price>=3D$6,=20 ADV>=3D30000, sorted in RSRank order.
 
--Katherine 
 
 
SLAB Silicon Labs ARTI Artisan Cpnts ICST Integrtd CrtSy MXIM Maxim IntdPds LLTC Linear Tech OVTI OmniVsion Tech ADI Analog Devcs OIIM 0 2Micro STM STMicroelectrn MOSY Monolithic Sys WEDC White Elec. ALTR Altera Corp. POWI Power Intgrtns ZRAN Zoran Corp. XLNX Xilinx Inc INTC Intel SNDK Sandisk Corp. TSM Taiwan SemiADR CREE Cree Inc FCS Fairchild Semi ACTL Actel Corp SWKS Skyworks Soltn SMTC Semtech Corp. IFX Infineon ADR PXLW Pixelworks Inc EXAR Exar Corp MRVL Marvell Tech RMBS Rambus Inc. NSM Nat'l Semi IDCC InterDigital TXN Texas Instr DSPG D S P Group SMSC Std. MicroSys IRF Int'l Rectifr ISIL Intersil CorpA ESST E S S Tech MU Micron Tech. BRCM Broadcom Corp. PSEM Pericom Semi GNSS Genesis Micro CY Cypress Semi LSCC Lattice Semi MSCC Microsemi Corp MCRL Micrel Inc. CLTK Celeritek Inc. IDTI Integr Device
Symbol Company RS
87
86
85
47
59
97
47
18
26
9
47
42
84
13
52
33
52
19
69
20
56
22
47
10
56
34
32
99
44
85
30
46
17
29
25
13
5
26
38
49
15
20
80
30
54
13


-----Original Message-----
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II
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 = 1:47=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = OVTI


Any=20 comments on OVTI?


Ed Gjertsen=20 II
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 = PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 AMI

Tom:

     Thanks.  That's a = very=20 good point (I wonder if the word"former" in
all
literature has = ever had=20 such significance)!

jans


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------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2E88F.66303D40-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] OVTI Date: 12 Mar 2003 14:55:23 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C2E8A7.69051B40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00C4_01C2E8A7.69051B40" ------=_NextPart_001_00C4_01C2E8A7.69051B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Katherine - Thank you for the compliment but it would be wrong of me to accept all the credit. There are two of us who put a lot of effort into our program. For the year, we are still up 2% but it has been a struggle. I have read the posted comments about "M" and for the average investor, there is merit. I believe the era of buying a S&P Index and making 20+% per year is over for awhile. Finding the nuggets of gold amongst all the ore is where money managers will differentiate themselves. Thanks for the screen, I'll take a look at those tonight. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:56 AM Hi Ed, You seem to have a knack for finding excellent stocks. This one's been on my radar for a while and particularly during recent weeks while it's continued to show real strength in a lousy "M". In our fundamental scoring system, it receives an 8.5 out of a possible 11 and scores in the top 10 in the industry in *both* fundamental and technical scores. (Other stocks that also score top 10 on both accounts are SLAB, ARTI and ICST). The chart is refreshingly strong, all the more important as a stock like this that bucks the trend during the worst of times will most likely outperform during the best of times. See an annotated chart at: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/OVTI031103.JPG showing the textbook cup with handle consolidation pattern, rising RSLine, consistently high RSRank and strong U/D ratio. I also show an Acculation/Distribution ratio over the last 15 days at 1.33. Below is a list of stocks in the industry with Price>=$6, ADV>=30000, sorted in RSRank order. --Katherine Symbol Company RS SLAB Silicon Labs 87 ARTI Artisan Cpnts 86 ICST Integrtd CrtSy 85 MXIM Maxim IntdPds 47 LLTC Linear Tech 59 OVTI OmniVsion Tech 97 ADI Analog Devcs 47 OIIM 0 2Micro 18 STM STMicroelectrn 26 MOSY Monolithic Sys 9 WEDC White Elec. 47 ALTR Altera Corp. 42 POWI Power Intgrtns 84 ZRAN Zoran Corp. 13 XLNX Xilinx Inc 52 INTC Intel 33 SNDK Sandisk Corp. 52 TSM Taiwan SemiADR 19 CREE Cree Inc 69 FCS Fairchild Semi 20 ACTL Actel Corp 56 SWKS Skyworks Soltn 22 SMTC Semtech Corp. 47 IFX Infineon ADR 10 PXLW Pixelworks Inc 56 EXAR Exar Corp 34 MRVL Marvell Tech 32 RMBS Rambus Inc. 99 NSM Nat'l Semi 44 IDCC InterDigital 85 TXN Texas Instr 30 DSPG D S P Group 46 SMSC Std. MicroSys 17 IRF Int'l Rectifr 29 ISIL Intersil CorpA 25 ESST E S S Tech 13 MU Micron Tech. 5 BRCM Broadcom Corp. 26 PSEM Pericom Semi 38 GNSS Genesis Micro 49 CY Cypress Semi 15 LSCC Lattice Semi 20 MSCC Microsemi Corp 80 MCRL Micrel Inc. 30 CLTK Celeritek Inc. 54 IDTI Integr Device 13 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Edward W. Gjertsen II Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:47 PM Any comments on OVTI? Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM Tom: Thanks. That's a very good point (I wonder if the word"former" in all literature has ever had such significance)! jans In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming right in front of the word "Former". >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Hi Katherine – Thank you for = the compliment but it would be wrong of me to accept all the credit.  = There are two of us who put a lot of effort into our program.  For the = year, we are still up 2% but it has been a struggle.  I have read the posted = comments about “M” and for the average investor, there is = merit.  I believe the era of buying a S&P Index and making 20+% per year is = over for awhile.  Finding the nuggets of gold amongst all the ore is where = money managers will differentiate themselves.  Thanks for the screen, = I’ll take a look at those tonight. 

 

 

Ed Gjertsen II

ed@macktracks.com

=

 

 

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-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Wednesday, March = 12, 2003 11:56 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = OVTI

 

Hi Ed,

 

You seem to have a knack for finding = excellent stocks. This one's been on my radar for a while and particularly during recent = weeks while it's continued to show real strength in a lousy "M". In = our fundamental scoring system, it receives an 8.5 out of a possible 11 and = scores in the top 10 in the industry in *both* fundamental and technical = scores. (Other stocks that also score top 10 on both accounts are SLAB, ARTI and = ICST). The chart is refreshingly strong, all the more important as a stock like = this that bucks the trend during the worst of times will most likely = outperform during the best of times.

 

See an annotated chart at: http://www.cwh= charts.com/katherine/OVTI031103.JPG showing the textbook cup with handle consolidation pattern, rising RSLine, = consistently high RSRank and strong U/D ratio. I also show an Acculation/Distribution = ratio over the last 15 days at 1.33.

 

Below is a list of stocks in the industry = with Price>=3D$6, ADV>=3D30000, sorted in RSRank = order.

 

--Katherine 

 

 

Symbol

Company

RS

SLAB

Silicon Labs

87

ARTI

Artisan Cpnts

86

ICST

Integrtd CrtSy

85

MXIM

Maxim IntdPds

47

LLTC

Linear Tech

59

OVTI

OmniVsion Tech

97

ADI

Analog Devcs

47

OIIM

0 2Micro

18

STM

STMicroelectrn

26

MOSY

Monolithic Sys

9

WEDC

White Elec.

47

ALTR

Altera Corp.

42

POWI

Power Intgrtns

84

ZRAN

Zoran Corp.

13

XLNX

Xilinx Inc

52

INTC

Intel

33

SNDK

Sandisk Corp.

52

TSM

Taiwan SemiADR

19

CREE

Cree Inc

69

FCS

Fairchild Semi

20

ACTL

Actel Corp

56

SWKS

Skyworks Soltn

22

SMTC

Semtech Corp.

47

IFX

Infineon ADR

10

PXLW

Pixelworks Inc

56

EXAR

Exar Corp

34

MRVL

Marvell Tech

32

RMBS

Rambus Inc.

99

NSM

Nat'l Semi

44

IDCC

InterDigital

85

TXN

Texas Instr

30

DSPG

D S P Group

46

SMSC

Std. MicroSys

17

IRF

Int'l Rectifr

29

ISIL

Intersil CorpA

25

ESST

E S S Tech

13

MU

Micron Tech.

5

BRCM

Broadcom Corp.

26

PSEM

Pericom Semi

38

GNSS

Genesis Micro

49

CY

Cypress Semi

15

LSCC

Lattice Semi

20

MSCC

Microsemi Corp

80

MCRL

Micrel Inc.

30

CLTK

Celeritek Inc.

54

IDTI

Integr Device

13

 

-----Original Message-----
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II
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:47 PM


Any comments on OVTI?


Ed Gjertsen II
ed@macktracks.com


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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:35 PM

Tom:

     Thanks.  That's a very good point (I = wonder if the word"former" in
all
literature has ever had such significance)!

jans


In a message dated 2/27/2003 10:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
stkguru@bellsouth.net writes:

<< You should also note that there is a very RED flag screaming = right in
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 of the word "Former".  >>

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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 11 Mar 2003 22:21:30 -0500 > Does anyone recognize this pattern < Some would say the QQQs ended an impulsive move down on Feb 13, then had a correctional wave up to March 3. The impulsive was 5 zigs and correctional was 3, so the overall down trend is expected to continue. Going forward we may be starting wave 3 which could be impressive, April may bring a buying opportunity, we'll see. Sometimes I think they just make this stuff up. :) Also the MACD was deviating during this period so price had a probability of breaking the ascending triangle. Guess this sort of Voodo doesn't belong here, I'm interested in various approaches and hope you are at least amused. I doubt one discipline is better than another, more important is the system has to fit the individual. imho, anyway. I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War and now too. If everyone expects the market will go up it might, at least at first while initially there is the appearance of serious progress. This could easily turn into a longer commitment and that will upset investors. There is a real treat of homeland terrorism this time. Also the personal, state and national debt are way higher than in 91. I heard on the radio today the estimate for rebuilding some piece of Iraq will be $300 billion, that's going to be a drag on growth. If you step back from the chart it looks like 91 was a pause in a bull market, but now we have a bear. Not sure what to think of it but I observe oil prices where fairly stabile before 91, the futures went momentarily nuts but then came right back down, there were no supply problems, this time we are in a sustained rise? I don't know, you value investors are much better at this sort of stuff. Don't think I want to bet on the 90's returning just yet. Mike - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE Date: 12 Mar 2003 17:53:51 -0700 Anybody know of a website where this is shown. I'm curious if most of today's volume came late with the rise in the indices. Rolf - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE Date: 12 Mar 2003 19:51:22 -0500 Rolf, go to www.bigcharts.com and you can use the toolbar at the left to select any time interval, including 1 minute intervals for current day. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:53 PM Anybody know of a website where this is shown. I'm curious if most of today's volume came late with the rise in the indices. Rolf - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 12 Mar 2003 17:30:54 -0800 > I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War and now too. If > everyone expects the market will go up it might, at least at first while > initially there is the appearance of serious progress Hi Mike: I've been wondering about this too. With all the bad news, and worsening outlook, I've been baffled that the market hasn't really gone down significantly. The NASDAQ is only down 4% on the year, and the OEX is down less than 8%. Those numbers definitely do NOT match the 'terrible bear' scenario painted by the media. Also, given persistent high energy prices, and an undercurrent of rumours that technology spending has really started to slow down, it's amazing to me that the list of IBD leading groups is chock full of yesteryears tech winners - meaning that the traders and speculators seem to still be out in force. I haven't seen much panic selling (except perhaps in the gold's) yet, and my personal little world of nanocap CANSLIM has actually been doing exceptionally well. I'm starting to wonder if the Iraq conflict isn't actually serving to prop up the market, since it plays into the hands of the idea that 'things are "about" to get better'? Perhaps it is not possible for the market to really drop until after the Iraq situation has played out? I guess we'll have to keep an eye on the indices to find out. Just musing - since there isn't much official CANSLIM discussion going on. Cheers, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE Date: 12 Mar 2003 18:58:52 -0700 Thanks for the reply Tom. I've tried this in the past and again just now but in the volume box I only see: Exchange provides no volume data. I have used bigcharts intraday for individual stocks with success. Rolf > Rolf, go to www.bigcharts.com and you can use the toolbar at the left to > select any time interval, including 1 minute intervals for current day. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:53 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE > > > Anybody know of a website where this is shown. I'm curious if most of > today's volume came late with the rise in the indices. > > Rolf > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE Date: 12 Mar 2003 21:06:12 -0500 you're right, I forgot about that. I tried QQQ as a proxy, but volume looked pretty distributed out over the day. What I did notice today is that most of the positive action seemed to be on the big cap stocks. Mid and small cap indexes all remained in the red for the day. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:58 PM Thanks for the reply Tom. I've tried this in the past and again just now but in the volume box I only see: Exchange provides no volume data. I have used bigcharts intraday for individual stocks with success. Rolf > Rolf, go to www.bigcharts.com and you can use the toolbar at the left to > select any time interval, including 1 minute intervals for current day. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:53 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE > > > Anybody know of a website where this is shown. I'm curious if most of > today's volume came late with the rise in the indices. > > Rolf > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Deiter Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE Date: 12 Mar 2003 19:40:47 -0800 (PST) Rolf, Volume did pick up in the afternoon 'rally', but the breadth of the rally was fairly narrow. There were more declines than advances on both the NYSE and NASDAQ. --- Rolf Hertenstein wrote: > Thanks for the reply Tom. I've tried this in the past and again > just now > but in the volume box I only see: Exchange provides no volume > data. > > I have used bigcharts intraday for individual stocks with success. > > Rolf > > > > Rolf, go to www.bigcharts.com and you can use the toolbar at the > left to > > select any time interval, including 1 minute intervals for > current day. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:53 PM > > Subject: [CANSLIM] intraday volume on the NASD and NYSE > > > > > > Anybody know of a website where this is shown. I'm curious if > most of > > today's volume came late with the rise in the indices. > > > > Rolf > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 12 Mar 2003 20:01:18 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E8D2.256A60E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian-I would be curious to know criteria you use to find nanocap canslims = and those would be different from regular canslim rules. I have been won= dering for quite a while how to scan or hunt for stocks like this and it = would be perfect for people who do not have much money to get into the ma= rket. Thanks for any details you could supply nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:02 PM > I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War and now too. If > everyone expects the market will go up it might, at least at first whil= e > initially there is the appearance of serious progress Hi Mike: I've been wondering about this too. With all the bad news, and worsening outlook, I've been baffled that the market hasn't really gone down significantly. The NASDAQ is only down 4% on the year, and the OEX is dow= n less than 8%. Those numbers definitely do NOT match the 'terrible bear' scenario painted by the media. Also, given persistent high energy prices, and an undercurrent of rumours that technology spending has really started to slow down, it's amazing to= me that the list of IBD leading groups is chock full of yesteryears tech winners - meaning that the traders and speculators seem to still be out i= n force. I haven't seen much panic selling (except perhaps in the gold's) yet, and= my personal little world of nanocap CANSLIM has actually been doing exceptionally well. I'm starting to wonder if the Iraq conflict isn't actually serving to pro= p up the market, since it plays into the hands of the idea that 'things are "about" to get better'? Perhaps it is not possible for the market to real= ly drop until after the Iraq situation has played out? I guess we'll have to keep an eye on the indices to find out. Just musing - since there isn't much official CANSLIM discussion going on= . Cheers, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E8D2.256A60E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ian-I would be= curious to know criteria you use to find nanocap canslims and those= would be different from regular canslim rules.  I have been wonderi= ng for quite a while how to scan or hunt for stocks like this and it woul= d be perfect for people who do not have much money to get into the m= arket.   Thanks for any details you could supply  nancy
 
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=
Fro= m: Ian
Sent: Wednesday, = March 12, 2003 5:02 PM
To: c= anslim@lists.xmission.com
Subjec= t: Re: [CANSLIM] M
 
> I'm hearing a lot of c= omparison between the Gulf War and now too.  If
> everyone exp= ects the market will go up it might, at least at first while
> init= ially there is the appearance of serious progress

Hi Mike:

= I've been wondering about this too. With all the bad news, and worsening<= BR>outlook, I've been baffled that the market hasn't really gone down
= significantly. The NASDAQ is only down 4% on the year, and the OEX is dow= n
less than 8%. Those numbers definitely do NOT match the 'terrible be= ar'
scenario painted by the media.

Also, given persistent high = energy prices, and an undercurrent of rumours
that technology spending= has really started to slow down, it's amazing to me
that the list of = IBD leading groups is chock full of yesteryears tech
winners - meaning= that the traders and speculators seem to still be out in
force.
I haven't seen much panic selling (except perhaps in the gold's) yet, a= nd my
personal little world of nanocap CANSLIM has actually been doing=
exceptionally well.

I'm starting to wonder if the Iraq conflic= t isn't actually serving to prop
up the market, since it plays into th= e hands of the idea that 'things are
"about" to get better'? Perhaps i= t is not possible for the market to really
drop until after the Iraq s= ituation has played out? I guess we'll have to
keep an eye on the indi= ces to find out.

Just musing - since there isn't much official CAN= SLIM discussion going on.

Cheers,

Ian


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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E8D2.256A60E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 12 Mar 2003 21:06:11 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_UzaSlgxfxNt53+Cr7pq/pA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Nancy: My criteria are the exact same as 'traditional' CANSLIM, except that I do not filter out candidates due to price or ADV or market cap. They need to have strong revenue and EPS growth (preferably with EPS growth > revenue growth), new products/services, a strong outlook, good ROE. Most importantly, a quantum surge in ADV, or a noticeable sustanined increase in ADV seems to be the primary indicator of a sustained run. To me, this means that 'I' are coming into the stock. I prefer to buy them right at the traditional trigger point - which makes it tricky, as 5% isn't much in a $4-$8 stock - often leaving me very short time frames for optimal purchase price. The truth is that I would prefer to deal in more liquid, higher-priced stocks - but since March 2000, I've found that the smaller stocks offer me more predictability of sustained breakouts. Recent examples include: ILI, DOCX, OPTC, SGMA - pay particular attention to trading volumes, and you'll see that a sustained increase means the breakout is likely to hold. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: NANCY POLCARO To: canslim Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Ian-I would be curious to know criteria you use to find nanocap canslims and those would be different from regular canslim rules. I have been wondering for quite a while how to scan or hunt for stocks like this and it would be perfect for people who do not have much money to get into the market. Thanks for any details you could supply nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M > I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War and now too. If > everyone expects the market will go up it might, at least at first while > initially there is the appearance of serious progress Hi Mike: I've been wondering about this too. With all the bad news, and worsening outlook, I've been baffled that the market hasn't really gone down significantly. The NASDAQ is only down 4% on the year, and the OEX is down less than 8%. Those numbers definitely do NOT match the 'terrible bear' scenario painted by the media. Also, given persistent high energy prices, and an undercurrent of rumours that technology spending has really started to slow down, it's amazing to me that the list of IBD leading groups is chock full of yesteryears tech winners - meaning that the traders and speculators seem to still be out in force. I haven't seen much panic selling (except perhaps in the gold's) yet, and my personal little world of nanocap CANSLIM has actually been doing exceptionally well. I'm starting to wonder if the Iraq conflict isn't actually serving to prop up the market, since it plays into the hands of the idea that 'things are "about" to get better'? Perhaps it is not possible for the market to really drop until after the Iraq situation has played out? I guess we'll have to keep an eye on the indices to find out. Just musing - since there isn't much official CANSLIM discussion going on. Cheers, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. --Boundary_(ID_UzaSlgxfxNt53+Cr7pq/pA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi Nancy:
 
My criteria are the exact same as 'traditional' CANSLIM, except that I do not filter out candidates due to price or ADV or market cap.
 
They need to have strong revenue and EPS growth (preferably with EPS growth > revenue growth), new products/services, a strong outlook, good ROE. Most importantly, a quantum surge in ADV, or a noticeable sustanined increase in ADV seems to be the primary indicator of a sustained run. To me, this means that 'I' are coming into the stock.
 
I prefer to buy them right at the traditional trigger point - which makes it tricky, as 5% isn't much in a $4-$8 stock - often leaving me very short time frames for optimal purchase price.
 
The truth is that I would prefer to deal in more liquid, higher-priced stocks - but since March 2000, I've found that the smaller stocks offer me more predictability of sustained breakouts.
 
Recent examples include: ILI, DOCX, OPTC, SGMA - pay particular attention to trading volumes, and you'll see that a sustained increase means the breakout is likely to hold.
 
Cheers,
 
Ian
----- Original Message -----
To: canslim
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Ian-I would be curious to know criteria you use to find nanocap canslims and those would be different from regular canslim rules.  I have been wondering for quite a while how to scan or hunt for stocks like this and it would be perfect for people who do not have much money to get into the market.   Thanks for any details you could supply  nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:02 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M
 
> I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War and now too.  If
> everyone expects the market will go up it might, at least at first while
> initially there is the appearance of serious progress

Hi Mike:

I've been wondering about this too. With all the bad news, and worsening
outlook, I've been baffled that the market hasn't really gone down
significantly. The NASDAQ is only down 4% on the year, and the OEX is down
less than 8%. Those numbers definitely do NOT match the 'terrible bear'
scenario painted by the media.

Also, given persistent high energy prices, and an undercurrent of rumours
that technology spending has really started to slow down, it's amazing to me
that the list of IBD leading groups is chock full of yesteryears tech
winners - meaning that the traders and speculators seem to still be out in
force.

I haven't seen much panic selling (except perhaps in the gold's) yet, and my
personal little world of nanocap CANSLIM has actually been doing
exceptionally well.

I'm starting to wonder if the Iraq conflict isn't actually serving to prop
up the market, since it plays into the hands of the idea that 'things are
"about" to get better'? Perhaps it is not possible for the market to really
drop until after the Iraq situation has played out? I guess we'll have to
keep an eye on the indices to find out.

Just musing - since there isn't much official CANSLIM discussion going on.

Cheers,

Ian


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--Boundary_(ID_UzaSlgxfxNt53+Cr7pq/pA)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 12 Mar 2003 20:45:01 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E8D8.40E49F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ian-Ill look into this appreciate it nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:37 PM Hi Nancy: My criteria are the exact same as 'traditional' CANSLIM, except that I do= not filter out candidates due to price or ADV or market cap. They need to have strong revenue and EPS growth (preferably with EPS grow= th > revenue growth), new products/services, a strong outlook, good ROE. = Most importantly, a quantum surge in ADV, or a noticeable sustanined incr= ease in ADV seems to be the primary indicator of a sustained run. To me, = this means that 'I' are coming into the stock. I prefer to buy them right at the traditional trigger point - which makes= it tricky, as 5% isn't much in a $4-$8 stock - often leaving me very sho= rt time frames for optimal purchase price. The truth is that I would prefer to deal in more liquid, higher-priced st= ocks - but since March 2000, I've found that the smaller stocks offer me = more predictability of sustained breakouts. Recent examples include: ILI, DOCX, OPTC, SGMA - pay particular attention= to trading volumes, and you'll see that a sustained increase means the b= reakout is likely to hold. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:01 PM Ian-I would be curious to know criteria you use to find nanocap canslims = and those would be different from regular canslim rules. I have been won= dering for quite a while how to scan or hunt for stocks like this and it = would be perfect for people who do not have much money to get into the ma= rket. Thanks for any details you could supply nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:02 PM > I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War and now too. If > everyone expects the market will go up it might, at least at first whil= e > initially there is the appearance of serious progress Hi Mike: I've been wondering about this too. With all the bad news, and worsening outlook, I've been baffled that the market hasn't really gone down significantly. The NASDAQ is only down 4% on the year, and the OEX is dow= n less than 8%. Those numbers definitely do NOT match the 'terrible bear' scenario painted by the media. Also, given persistent high energy prices, and an undercurrent of rumours that technology spending has really started to slow down, it's amazing to= me that the list of IBD leading groups is chock full of yesteryears tech winners - meaning that the traders and speculators seem to still be out i= n force. I haven't seen much panic selling (except perhaps in the gold's) yet, and= my personal little world of nanocap CANSLIM has actually been doing exceptionally well. I'm starting to wonder if the Iraq conflict isn't actually serving to pro= p up the market, since it plays into the hands of the idea that 'things are "about" to get better'? Perhaps it is not possible for the market to real= ly drop until after the Iraq situation has played out? I guess we'll have to keep an eye on the indices to find out. Just musing - since there isn't much official CANSLIM discussion going on= . Cheers, Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E8D8.40E49F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Ian-Ill look into this appreciate = it nancy
 
----- Original Message -= ----
From: Ian
Sent: = Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:37 PM
<= B>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Hi Nancy:
 
My criteria are the exact same as 'traditional' CANSLIM, except that I = do not filter out candidates due to price or ADV or market cap.
 
They need to have strong re= venue and EPS growth (preferably with EPS growth > revenue growth), ne= w products/services, a strong outlook, good ROE. Most importantly, a= quantum surge in ADV, or a noticeable sustanined increase in ADV seems t= o be the primary indicator of a sustained run. To me, this means that 'I'=  are coming into the stock.
 
I prefer to buy them right at the traditional trigger poin= t - which makes it tricky, as 5% isn't much in a $4-$8 stock - often leav= ing me very short time frames for optimal purchase price.
 
The truth is that I would prefer = to deal in more liquid, higher-priced stocks - but since March 2000, I've= found that the smaller stocks offer me more predictability of sustained = breakouts.
 
Recent = examples include: ILI, DOCX, OPTC, SGMA - pay particular attention to tra= ding volumes, and you'll see that a sustained increase means the breakout=  is likely to hold.
 
Cheers,
 
Ian<= /FONT>
----- Original Message -----
From:<= /B> NANCY = POLCARO
Sent: Wednesday, M= arch 12, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M

Ian-I would be curious to k= now criteria you use to find nanocap canslims and those would be dif= ferent from regular canslim rules.  I have been wondering for quite = a while how to scan or hunt for stocks like this and it would be perfect = for people who do not have much money to get into the market.  =  Thanks for any details you could supply  nancy
&nbs= p;
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 200= 3 5:02 PM
To: canslim@lists.= xmission.com
Subject: Re: [C= ANSLIM] M
 
> I'm hearing a lot of comparison bet= ween the Gulf War and now too.  If
> everyone expects the mark= et will go up it might, at least at first while
> initially there i= s the appearance of serious progress

Hi Mike:

I've been won= dering about this too. With all the bad news, and worsening
outlook, I= 've been baffled that the market hasn't really gone down
significantly= . The NASDAQ is only down 4% on the year, and the OEX is down
less tha= n 8%. Those numbers definitely do NOT match the 'terrible bear'
scenar= io painted by the media.

Also, given persistent high energy prices= , and an undercurrent of rumours
that technology spending has really s= tarted to slow down, it's amazing to me
that the list of IBD leading g= roups is chock full of yesteryears tech
winners - meaning that the tra= ders and speculators seem to still be out in
force.

I haven't s= een much panic selling (except perhaps in the gold's) yet, and my
pers= onal little world of nanocap CANSLIM has actually been doing
exception= ally well.

I'm starting to wonder if the Iraq conflict isn't actua= lly serving to prop
up the market, since it plays into the hands of th= e idea that 'things are
"about" to get better'? Perhaps it is not poss= ible for the market to really
drop until after the Iraq situation has = played out? I guess we'll have to
keep an eye on the indices to find o= ut.

Just musing - since there isn't much official CANSLIM discussi= on going on.

Cheers,

Ian


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-In the email body, write "sub= scribe canslim" or
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------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E8D8.40E49F60-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe McCall" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 13 Mar 2003 07:33:50 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C2E932.E3FADB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, I totally agree with your second paragraph and your analysis on the new = gulf war. If anyone didn't read it or missed it, you should go back and = read it. I too many people have unrealistic expectations. That's just = my opinion. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M > Does anyone recognize this pattern < Some would say the QQQs ended an impulsive move down on Feb 13, then = had a=20 correctional wave up to March 3. The impulsive was 5 zigs and = correctional=20 was 3, so the overall down trend is expected to continue. Going = forward we=20 may be starting wave 3 which could be impressive, April may bring a = buying=20 opportunity, we'll see. Sometimes I think they just make this stuff=20 up. :) Also the MACD was deviating during this period so price had = a=20 probability of breaking the ascending triangle. Guess this sort of = Voodo=20 doesn't belong here, I'm interested in various approaches and hope you = are=20 at least amused. I doubt one discipline is better than another, more=20 important is the system has to fit the individual. imho, anyway. I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War and now too. If=20 everyone expects the market will go up it might, at least at first = while=20 initially there is the appearance of serious progress. This could = easily=20 turn into a longer commitment and that will upset investors. There is = a=20 real treat of homeland terrorism this time. Also the personal, state = and=20 national debt are way higher than in 91. I heard on the radio today = the=20 estimate for rebuilding some piece of Iraq will be $300 billion, = that's=20 going to be a drag on growth. If you step back from the chart it = looks=20 like 91 was a pause in a bull market, but now we have a bear. Not = sure=20 what to think of it but I observe oil prices where fairly stabile = before=20 91, the futures went momentarily nuts but then came right back down, = there=20 were no supply problems, this time we are in a sustained rise? I = don't=20 know, you value investors are much better at this sort of stuff. = Don't=20 think I want to bet on the 90's returning just yet. Mike - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C2E932.E3FADB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike,
 
I totally agree with your second = paragraph and=20 your analysis on the new gulf war.  If anyone didn't read it or = missed it,=20 you should go back and read it.  I too many people have unrealistic = expectations.  That's just my opinion.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 = 9:21=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M


 > Does anyone recognize this pattern=20 <

Some would say the QQQs ended an impulsive move down on = Feb 13,=20 then had a
correctional wave up to March 3.  The impulsive = was 5 zigs=20 and correctional
was 3, so the overall down trend is expected to=20 continue.  Going forward we
may be starting wave 3 which = could be=20 impressive, April may bring a buying
opportunity, we'll see.  = Sometimes I think they just make this stuff
up.  = :)   Also=20 the MACD was deviating during this period so price had a =
probability of=20 breaking the ascending triangle.  Guess this sort of Voodo =
doesn't=20 belong here, I'm interested in various approaches and hope you are =
at=20 least amused.  I doubt one discipline is better than another, = more=20
important is the system has to fit the individual. imho,=20 anyway.

I'm hearing a lot of comparison between the Gulf War = and now=20 too.  If
everyone expects the market will go up it might, at = least at=20 first while
initially there is the appearance of serious = progress. =20 This could easily
turn into a longer commitment and that will = upset=20 investors.  There is a
real treat of homeland terrorism this=20 time.  Also the personal, state and
national debt are way = higher than=20 in 91.  I heard on the radio today the
estimate for = rebuilding some=20 piece of Iraq will be $300 billion, that's
going to be a drag on=20 growth.  If you step back from the chart it looks
like 91 was = a pause=20 in a bull market, but now we have a bear.  Not sure
what to = think of=20 it but I observe oil prices where fairly stabile before
91, the = futures=20 went momentarily nuts but then came right back down, there
were no = supply=20 problems, this time we are in a sustained rise?  I don't =
know, you=20 value investors are much better at this sort of stuff.  Don't =
think I=20 want to bet on the 90's returning just = yet.
Mike



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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C2E932.E3FADB60-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 08:42:07 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2E93C.6E18E4F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2E93C.6E18E4F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
 
The subject of industry group = inclusion=20 seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this = new=20 reference.
 
IBD has finally provided an = electronic=20 version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are = available each=20 day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. = Don't get=20 overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each=20 download.
 
http://www= .dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
 
Still, it's a nice addition to = their product=20 offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as = they=20 had last week.
 
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed the changes = to the=20 industry groups, they are:
Where there is a combination of 2 = groups or=20 a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. = For=20 example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one.
 
Dropped = DGO=20 Industries New DGO=20 Industries
Computer-Optical = Recogtn
Elec-Control = Instruments
Elec-Laser = Sys/Component
Comml=20 Svcs-Consulting  =20
Comml = Svcs-Market=20 Rsrch
Media-Diversified      =20
Retail-Leisure=20 Products
Telecom-Wireless Equip =20
Elec-Contract Mfg      =20
Electrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components        =20
Fiber Optic Components =20 Telecom-Fiber Optics    =
Fiber Optic Networks    =
Elec-Measrng = Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng   =
Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt
 
Computer-Services      =20 Computer-Tech Services =20
Computer-Graphics      =20 Computer=20 Sftwr-Design  =20
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage   =
Textile-Apparel Mfg    =20 Apparel-Clothing Mfg    =
Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe    =20 Apparel-Shoes=20 & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous    =
Shoes & Rel Apparel    =20 Retail-Clothing/Shoe    =
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20
Household-Audio/Video   = Household-Consumer Elec=20
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http://www.schwab.com/SchwabNOW/SNLibrary/SNLib123/SN123EmailArti= cle/0,,864|5937,00.html?orig=3Datebulletin&dest=3Dkentowermar&pos= =3Dtoc=20
 
 Gene
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Thanks for the article. I look forward for the Part 2.

Kris --part1_1e.c7a6a98.2ba201fe_boundary-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:19:48 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C2E95A.D7413AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not = alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find = out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough = for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates = only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on = the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference.=20 IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry = Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a = couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly = excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each = download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just = after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you = will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber = optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries=20 Computer-Optical Recogtn =20 Elec-Control Instruments =20 Elec-Laser Sys/Component =20 =20 Comml Svcs-Consulting =20 Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =20 Media-Diversified =20 Retail-Leisure Products =20 Telecom-Wireless Equip =20 Elec-Contract Mfg =20 =20 Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr =20 Elec-Components =20 =20 Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics =20 Fiber Optic Networks =20 =20 Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng =20 Elec-Scientific Instrmnt =20 =20 Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services =20 Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design =20 Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage =20 Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg =20 Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts=20 Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =20 Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous =20 Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe =20 Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20 Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec =20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C2E95A.D7413AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
since it's not a subscription, I have my = suspicions that=20 they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So = only way=20 to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy = enough=20 for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates = only=20 done 2-3 times a year.
 
What a gimmick!!!
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Katherine Malm=20
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF = Format

Hi All,
 
The subject of industry group = inclusion=20 seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this = new=20 reference.
 
IBD has finally provided an = electronic=20 version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are = available each=20 day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. = Don't get=20 overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each=20 download.
 
http://www= .dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
 
Still, it's a nice addition to = their product=20 offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as = they=20 had last week.
 
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed the changes = to the=20 industry groups, they are:
Where there is a combination of 2 = groups or=20 a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. = For=20 example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one.
 
Dropped = DGO=20 Industries New DGO=20 Industries
Computer-Optical = Recogtn
Elec-Control = Instruments
Elec-Laser = Sys/Component
Comml=20 Svcs-Consulting  =20
Comml = Svcs-Market=20 Rsrch
Media-Diversified      =20
Retail-Leisure=20 Products
Telecom-Wireless Equip =20
Elec-Contract Mfg      =20
Electrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components        =20
Fiber Optic Components =20 Telecom-Fiber Optics    =
Fiber Optic Networks    =
Elec-Measrng = Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng   =
Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt
 
Computer-Services      =20 Computer-Tech Services =20
Computer-Graphics      =20 Computer=20 Sftwr-Design  =20
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage   =
Textile-Apparel Mfg    =20 Apparel-Clothing Mfg    =
Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe    =20 Apparel-Shoes=20 & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous    =
Shoes & Rel Apparel    =20 Retail-Clothing/Shoe    =
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20
Household-Audio/Video   = Household-Consumer Elec=20
------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C2E95A.D7413AE0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 11:23:45 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2E953.02550980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2E953.02550980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's exactly it, Tom. The = information is=20 updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you = wish,=20 but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!!
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format

since it's not a subscription, I have my = suspicions that=20 they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So = only way=20 to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be = easy=20 enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major = updates=20 only done 2-3 times a year.
 
What a gimmick!!!
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Katherine Malm=20
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF = Format

Hi All,
 
The subject of industry group = inclusion=20 seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this = new=20 reference.
 
IBD has finally provided an = electronic=20 version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are = available each=20 day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. = Don't get=20 overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each = download.
 
http://www= .dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
 
Still, it's a nice addition to = their=20 product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry = groupings=20 as they had last week.
 
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed the = changes to the=20 industry groups, they are:
Where there is a combination of = 2 groups=20 or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each = other.=20 For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into = one.
 
Dropped DGO=20 Industries New DGO=20 Industries
Computer-Optical = Recogtn
Elec-Control = Instruments
Elec-Laser = Sys/Component
Comml=20 Svcs-Consulting  =20
Comml=20 Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified       =
Retail-Leisure=20 Products
Telecom-Wireless Equip =20
Elec-Contract Mfg       =
Electrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components        =20
Fiber Optic Components =20 Telecom-Fiber Optics    =
Fiber Optic Networks    =
Elec-Measrng = Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng   =
Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt
 
Computer-Services       = Computer-Tech Services =20
Computer-Graphics       = Computer=20 Sftwr-Design  =20
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage   =
Textile-Apparel Mfg    =20 Apparel-Clothing Mfg    =
Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe    =20 Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous    =
Shoes & Rel Apparel    =20 Retail-Clothing/Shoe    =
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20
Household-Audio/Video   = Household-Consumer Elec=20
= ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2E953.02550980-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version Date: 13 Mar 2003 13:17:54 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C2E962.F4B27C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too large. = Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still....=20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of that = industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: = Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks = within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list. Symbol Description Symbol Description=20 .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment=20 =20 regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C2E962.F4B27C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I sent out a complete list of = industries but the=20 file was too large. Here's a smaller version.....

sent=20 earlier

I know this might be heresy but why not use the free=20 WallStreetCity?
The industries - names/makeup - are different than = IBD but=20 still....

If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to = a chart=20 of that industry.

When there, change the menu window from:=20 Banks   Graph=20 Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a quick = snapshot of=20 how the group is doing and the stocks within the group.
 
You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY = GROUPS to=20 see the entire list.
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C2E962.F4B27C80-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 11:40:22 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E955.54DC2240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you di= dnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the = book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quar= ter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement th= e list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(lik= e the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one= thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy gr= oups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 1= 97 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 19= 7. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In th= e paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to s= earch out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and= where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of wh= at progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thank= s for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can d= ownload an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 eac= h time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- on.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not a= lert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find ou= t would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for= them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only= done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on = the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. =20 IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ti= cker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of t= imes a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however= , as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just a= fter a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you wil= l see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber opti= cs groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO IndustriesNew DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting =20 Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =20 Media-Diversified =20 Retail-Leisure Products =20 Telecom-Wireless Equip =20 Elec-Contract Mfg =20 Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr =20 Elec-Components =20 Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics =20 Fiber Optic Networks =20 Elec-Measrng InstrumentsElec-Scientific/Msrng =20 Elec-Scientific Instrmnt =20 Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services =20 Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design =20 Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage =20 Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg =20 Retail/Whlsle-Auto PartsRetail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =20 Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous =20 Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe =20 Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20 Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E955.54DC2240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Katherine , would you have access to the = new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review = it on your computer?  I got the book once-I think at the time it was= updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00.&= nbsp; Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from = another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us th= e other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interes= ted in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a wee= kly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a= month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197.  Does anyone = know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is li= sted in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the na= me of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now= ,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing a= nd falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help&n= bsp; nancy
 
----- Original Message= -----
From: Katherine Malm
= Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Fo= rmat
 
That= 's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can downl= oad an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each ti= me you do it!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-cans= lim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Beh= alf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AMTo: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would= not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to f= ind out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enou= gh for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major update= s only done 2-3 times a year.
 
What a gimmick!!!
 
-= ---- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 200= 3 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF= Format

Hi All,
 =
The subject of industry grou= p inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd for= ward this new reference.
 
IBD has fin= ally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol= book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year= as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll= pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.
 
http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
 
Still, it's a nice addition to their product off= erings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as the= y had last week.
 
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed the changes to the indust= ry groups, they are:
W= here there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will= see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optic= s groups were combined into one.
 
 = Fiber Optic Components=   = Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts =
Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
Dropped= DGO Industries Ne= w DGO Industries
Computer-Optical Recogtn
Elec-Control Instruments
Elec-Laser Sys/Component
Comml Svcs-Consulting  
Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified &= nbsp;    
Retail-Leisure Products
<= /FONT> = Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg   &= nbsp;  
<= /TD>
Electrical-Connectors   Elec-= Component/Connectr
Elec-Components        
<= FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
Telecom-Fiber Optics   = ;
   
Elec-Measrng Instru= ments Elec-Scientific/Msrng  
Elec-Scientific Instrmnt
=  
Computer-Services       = Computer-Tech Services&nbs= p;
Computer-Graphics       Computer Sftwr-Design&n= bsp; 
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage&nbs= p; 
Textile-Apparel Mfg     = Apparel-Clothing Mfg =   
Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Retail-Appar= el/Shoe     = Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg
Re= tail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous   
Shoes & Rel Apparel = ;    Retail-Clothing/Sho= e   
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network S= ltns 
Household-Audio/Video &n= bsp; Household-Consumer Elec
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E955.54DC2240-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 14:47:50 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C2E96F.854D42F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nancy, the easiest way is to just s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e (so the mail server = won't misunderstand me) to DGO. Either you can buy the basic service, = and every Friday night download the Printed Product Index, or you can = add to the s-u-b-s-c-r-i-p-t-i-o-n the Group module for an additional = fee. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you = didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got = the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every = quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to = supplement the list with new additions from another site list of = industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that = included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a = way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly = basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of = 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to = find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical = order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the = industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. = etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and = falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help = nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you = can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you = $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would = not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to = find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy = enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major = updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly = often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference.=20 IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry = Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a = couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly = excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each = download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially = just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, = you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 = fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries=20 Computer-Optical Recogtn =20 Elec-Control Instruments =20 Elec-Laser Sys/Component =20 =20 Comml Svcs-Consulting =20 Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =20 Media-Diversified =20 Retail-Leisure Products =20 Telecom-Wireless Equip =20 Elec-Contract Mfg =20 =20 Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr =20 Elec-Components =20 =20 Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics =20 Fiber Optic Networks =20 =20 Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng =20 Elec-Scientific Instrmnt =20 =20 Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services =20 Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design =20 Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage =20 Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg =20 Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts=20 Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =20 Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous =20 Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe =20 Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20 Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C2E96F.854D42F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nancy, the easiest way is to just = s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e=20 (so the mail server won't misunderstand me) to DGO. Either you can buy = the basic=20 service, and every Friday night download the Printed Product Index, or = you can=20 add to the s-u-b-s-c-r-i-p-t-i-o-n the Group module for an additional=20 fee.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF = Format

Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if = you=20 didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer?  I = got the=20 book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every=20 quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to = supplement=20 the list with new additions from another site list of industries = groups(like the=20 one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one = thing I=20 am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are = changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 = this=20 week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of = 197.  Does=20 anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper = it is=20 listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the = name of=20 the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. = etc. I=20 think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling = behind=20 and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help  nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 = 9:26=20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format
 
That's exactly it, Tom. The = information is=20 updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if = you wish,=20 but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!!
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format

since it's not a subscription, I have my = suspicions=20 that they would not alert you when your last download went out of = date. So=20 only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it = would be=20 easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than = the major=20 updates only done 2-3 times a year.
 
What a gimmick!!!
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF = Format

Hi All,
 
The subject of industry group = inclusion=20 seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward = this new=20 reference.
 
IBD has finally provided an = electronic=20 version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are = available=20 each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed = edition.=20 Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the = privilege of=20 each download.
 
http://www= .dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
 
Still, it's a nice addition to = their=20 product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry=20 groupings as they had last week.
 
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed the = changes to the=20 industry groups, they are:
Where there is a combination = of 2 groups=20 or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each = other.=20 For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into = one.
 
Dropped DGO=20 Industries New DGO=20 Industries
Computer-Optical = Recogtn
Elec-Control = Instruments
Elec-Laser = Sys/Component
Comml=20 Svcs-Consulting  =20
Comml=20 Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified      =20
Retail-Leisure Products
Telecom-Wireless Equip  =
Elec-Contract Mfg      =20
Electrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components        =20
Fiber Optic Components  Telecom-Fiber Optics   =20
Fiber Optic Networks    =
Elec-Measrng = Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng   =
Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt
 
Computer-Services      =20 Computer-Tech Services  =
Computer-Graphics      =20 Computer Sftwr-Design   =
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage   =
Textile-Apparel Mfg    =20 Apparel-Clothing Mfg   =20
Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe    =20 Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous   =20
Shoes & Rel Apparel    =20 Retail-Clothing/Shoe   =20
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns  =
Household-Audio/Video   = Household-Consumer Elec=20 =
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01C2E96F.854D42F0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 14:02:13 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2E969.25E50880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2E969.25E50880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Nancy,
 
The = electronic version of=20 the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF = document,=20 essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not = organized=20 as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information = in a=20 more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in = form.
 
In order to = see the=20 industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have = a basic=20 subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry=20 group feature on top of that (an additional = $200/yr).
 
The most cost = effective=20 way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS = combo.=20 Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and = they=20 provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to=20 be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at = our own=20 site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional = industry=20 analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional = feature within=20 our core product offering.
 
Beyond that, = you're=20 somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry = status=20 and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show = the=20 %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all = depends on=20 exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and = how=20 much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, = money and=20 analysis tools.
 
Katherine
 
 -----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY=20 POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM
To:=20 canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF=20 Format

Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added = if you=20 didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer?  = I got=20 the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or = every=20 quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to=20 supplement the list with new additions from another site list of = industries=20 groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included=20 rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way = to see=20 how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly = basis. Say the=20 group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then = another=20 month 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an easy way to find and = organize=20 that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and = you=20 would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it = was last=20 month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a = better view=20 of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my = attention??=20 Thanks for any help  nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 9:26=20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format
 
That's exactly it, Tom. The = information=20 is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day = if you=20 wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!!
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format

since it's not a subscription, I have my = suspicions=20 that they would not alert you when your last download went out of = date. So=20 only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And = it would=20 be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather = than the=20 major updates only done 2-3 times a year.
 
What a gimmick!!!
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF=20 Format

Hi All,
 
The subject of industry = group=20 inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought = I'd=20 forward this new reference.
 
IBD has finally provided an = electronic=20 version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are = available=20 each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed = edition.=20 Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the = privilege=20 of each download.
 
http://www= .dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
 
Still, it's a nice addition = to their=20 product offerings, especially just after a major change in = industry=20 groupings as they had last week.
 
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed the = changes to=20 the industry groups, they are:
Where there is a combination = of 2=20 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed = next to=20 each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined = into=20 one.
 
Dropped DGO=20 Industries New DGO=20 Industries
Computer-Optical = Recogtn
Elec-Control = Instruments
Elec-Laser = Sys/Component
Comml=20 Svcs-Consulting  =20
Comml=20 Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified      =20
Retail-Leisure Products
Telecom-Wireless Equip  =
Elec-Contract Mfg      =20
Electrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components        =20
Fiber Optic Components  = Telecom-Fiber Optics   =20
Fiber Optic Networks   =20
Elec-Measrng = Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng   =
Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt
 
Computer-Services      =20 Computer-Tech Services  =
Computer-Graphics      =20 Computer Sftwr-Design   =
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage   =
Textile-Apparel Mfg    =20 Apparel-Clothing Mfg   =20
Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe    =20 Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous   =20
Shoes & Rel Apparel    =20 Retail-Clothing/Shoe   =20
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns  =
Household-Audio/Video   = Household-Consumer Elec=20 =
<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2E969.25E50880-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:39:44 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E95D.A02058E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I ca= nt believe people dont offer this. If you have an industry in front of y= ou and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started at 1= 95 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline= situation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the i= ndustry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready= and get in early on the forward progress. Thanks again for the info nan= cy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay = for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book.= Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is = just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise= no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products= , you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and = then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an addition= al $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subsc= ribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to= the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DG= O itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks with= in industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testin= g on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as a= n additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various= tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an ind= ustry page where they show the %price change for each industry over sever= al periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the inf= ormation, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to sp= end to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- on.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you di= dnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the = book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quar= ter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement th= e list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(lik= e the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one= thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy gr= oups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 1= 97 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 19= 7. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In th= e paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to s= earch out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and= where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of wh= at progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thank= s for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can d= ownload an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 eac= h time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- on.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not a= lert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find ou= t would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for= them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only= done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on = the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. =20 IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ti= cker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of t= imes a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however= , as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just a= fter a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you wil= l see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber opti= cs groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO IndustriesNew DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting =20 Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =20 Media-Diversified =20 Retail-Leisure Products =20 Telecom-Wireless Equip =20 Elec-Contract Mfg =20 Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr =20 Elec-Components =20 Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics =20 Fiber Optic Networks =20 Elec-Measrng InstrumentsElec-Scientific/Msrng =20 Elec-Scientific Instrmnt =20 Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services =20 Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design =20 Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage =20 Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg =20 Retail/Whlsle-Auto PartsRetail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =20 Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous =20 Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe =20 Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns =20 Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E95D.A02058E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks katherine-will you new additions h= ave this kind of info sort? I cant believe people dont offer this.  = If you have an industry in front of you and you see monthly it has moved = up 10 spaces a month, it started at 195 and now in 1 year its at 75-barri= ng something drastic like the airline situation-it seems like it would th= en be time to start researching the industry and the stocks within it(cha= rts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready and get in early on the forward pro= gress.  Thanks again for the info nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1= 2:06 PM
To: canslim@lists.xm= ission.com
Subject: RE: [CAN= SLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
 
Hi Nancy,
 
The electronic version of the Industr= y Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentiall= y an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as= a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in = a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form.<= /DIV>
 
In order to see the ind= ustry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a ba= sic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr).
 
= The most cost effec= tive way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS= combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries= and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just = to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at= our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additiona= l industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional f= eature within our core product offering.
&n= bsp;
Bey= ond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various to= ols for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an indust= ry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several = periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the inform= ation, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend= to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools.
 
Katherine
 
<= FONT face=3DTahoma> -----Ori= ginal Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mail= to:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
= Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
Katheri= ne , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wis= h to download it, but just review it on your computer?  I got the bo= ok once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarte= r(cant remember) for a new 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to supplement= the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(= like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . = Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how indu= striy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the grou= p is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another mo= nth 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organiz= e that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and y= ou would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it = was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a= better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my= attention?? Thanks for any help  nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9= :26 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmi= ssion.com
Subject: RE: [CANS= LIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
 
That's exactly it, Tom. The information is = updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you = wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!!
-----Original Message-----From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, = March 13, 2003 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Su= bject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

=
since it's not a subscription, I have my s= uspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out = of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. = And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rat= her than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year.
=  
What a gim= mick!!!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] I= BD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Hi All,
 
The= subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the= list, so thought I'd forward this new reference.
 
IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Ind= ustry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of= a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly e= xcited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.<= /SPAN>
 
http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndG= roups.asp
&= nbsp;
Still, it's a nice addi= tion to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in = industry groupings as they had last week.
 
Katherine
&= nbsp;
PS In case you missed t= he changes to the industry groups, they are:
Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simp= le name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For ex= ample, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one.
 
Elec-Co= ntrol Instruments <= /TR> <= TD class=3Dxl23 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORD= ER-LEFT: black 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: tra= nsparent">Retail/Whlsle-Autos/PrtsRetail-Clothing/Shoe  &nb= sp; Internet-Network Sltns  <= FONT size=3D2>Household-Audio/Video  
Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries
Computer-Optical Recogtn
Elec-Laser Sys/Component
Comml Svcs-Consulting<= SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  
Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified      
<= FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Retail-Leisure Products <= /TD>
Telecom-Wireless Equip 
Elec-Contract Mfg      
El= ectrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-C= omponents     =    
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------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E95D.A02058E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:57:35 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2E960.1E5340E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I found the i= ndustry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups advanc= e or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss it?? Thank= s again nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM er version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too large. Here= 's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... =20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of that in= dustry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: Bank= s List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks w= ithin the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list. SymbolDescriptionSymbolDescription .BAN Banks.OFU Home/office/equipment regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2E960.1E5340E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
great site gene-I looked but didnt see wh= at Im looking for. I found the industry groups and all the stocks with in= them, but not the groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 mont= hs or year-did I miss it?? Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
<= DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:2= 0 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmiss= ion.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] W= hy Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
  =
I sent out a complete = list of industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller version..= ...

sent earlier

I know this might be heresy but why= not use the free WallStreetCity?
The industries - names/makeup - are = different than IBD but still....

If you click on .BAN Banks (belo= w) it will take you to a chart of that industry.

When there, chang= e the menu window from: Banks   Graph Industry
  &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =   to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a quick = snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the group.
 
You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see= the entire list.
<= TH bgColor=3D#6666cc>= SymbolBanks
Symbol Description Description
.BAN .OFU Home/office/equipment
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regards,
Gene
------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2E960.1E5340E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sderks@gmx.net Subject: [CANSLIM] Industry ranking Date: 13 Mar 2003 23:30:19 +0100 (MET) Hey I read a lot about Industry ranking and some what people talk about I dont understand but that's allright I guess since im in the beginning stage. I got some sites about industry ranking which offer info for free so hopefully it is for use for some of you out there: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/industry/bigcharts-com/ http://www.equitytrader.com/cgi/structure.asp http://host.wallstreetcity.com/wsc2/Industry_Group_Analysis.html?Symbol=.ALL&Button=BEST&template=indbest.htm Besides these sites there is this link that has many links to all kinds of research tools etc. http://www.winninginvesting.com/best_investing_sites.htm#index Regards Sébastien -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage! - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Industry ranking Date: 13 Mar 2003 17:58:57 -0500 Thanks, Sébastien, I see a few there I have not visited and will try to check them out. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:30 PM Hey I read a lot about Industry ranking and some what people talk about I dont understand but that's allright I guess since im in the beginning stage. I got some sites about industry ranking which offer info for free so hopefully it is for use for some of you out there: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/industry/bigcharts-com/ http://www.equitytrader.com/cgi/structure.asp http://host.wallstreetcity.com/wsc2/Industry_Group_Analysis.html?Symbol=.ALL &Button=BEST&template=indbest.htm Besides these sites there is this link that has many links to all kinds of research tools etc. http://www.winninginvesting.com/best_investing_sites.htm#index Regards Sébastien -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage! - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jclark249@comcast.net Subject: [CANSLIM] monthly magazine Date: 13 Mar 2003 19:15:16 -0500 Is or has anyone looked at the monthly stock magazine from Canslim.net, and the daily updates it provides. I am curious how benificial the newsletter is. Thanks, Joe Clark - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 13 Mar 2003 19:24:35 -0500 OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back in. Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has been typically well under average. So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least some minor relief rally. Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: WORLDWIDE TRAVEL + AUSTRALIA TRAVEL FREE Date: 14 Mar 2003 04:35:05 -0300 WORLD WIDE TRAVEL - FREE FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN GET TO SYDNEY FROM ANYWHERE IN AUSTRALIA FREE AIRFARE - MAJOR AIRLINE FREE LIMO TRANSFER - MERCEDES PLUS CHAUFFER FREE HOTEL ROOM - EXECUTIVE SUITE FREE DINNER - TOP SYDNEY RESTAURANT SYDNEY RESIDENTS LIMO TRANSFER FROM RESIDENCE TO HOTEL ROOM CALL MISS PENELOPPE GRAY SYDNEY EVENT TRAVEL PTY LTD IN CONJUNCTION WITH MODEL ENTERPRISE PTY LTD SYDNEY AUSTRALIA 02 96900652 INTERNATIONAL - 0011 61 2 96900652 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS ---- FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN GET FREE AIRFARE FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD ALSO ENQUIRE ABOUT FIRST CLASS - FREE TRAVEL 0704l4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:18:51 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2E95A.B5674E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still....=20 If you click on .BAN Banks below it wil take you to a chart of that = industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: = Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks = within the group. Symbol Description Symbol Description=20 .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment=20 .BSB Banks/savings banks .OFS Home/office/furniture=20 .BSL Banks/savings & loan .PET Home/pet & supplies=20 .ALU Basic/aluminum .INT Internet=20 .MET Basic/metal .LEI Leisure/amusement=20 .MOF Basic/metal/other fabricating .LGA Leisure/amusement & = gaming equip.=20 .MIN Basic/mining .LBO Leisure/boating=20 .MCL Basic/mining/coal .LBB Leisure/bowling-billiards=20 .MCP Basic/mining/copper .LCG Leisure/casinos-gaming =20 .MGO Basic/mining/gold .FIL Leisure/film/entertainment=20 .MSI Basic/mining/silver .FDI Leisure/film/distributors=20 .MEX Basic/mining/exploration-development .FTH = Leisure/film/theaters=20 .MIM Basic/mining/industrial minerals .FST = Leisure/film/services-equipment=20 .MJG Basic/mining/junior gold .LMI Leisure/misc=20 .PAP Basic/paper-products .LMU Leisure/musical instruments=20 .STE Basic/steel-iron .LPF Leisure/photo=20 .SMI Basic/steel-iron/major integrated .LRT Leisure/race tracks=20 .SOI Basic/steel-iron/other integrated .LRH Leisure/records-home = video=20 .SST Basic/steel-iron/stainless .LSC Leisure/sports collectibles = .SOS Basic/steel-iron/other specialties .LSO = Leisure/sports-outdoor equip=20 .SOP Basic/steel-iron/ore producer .LTR Leisure/tourism-resorts=20 .SSP Basic/steel-iron/converter/processor .LTG = Leisure/toys-games=20 .SMN Basic/steel-iron/minimill .MAC Machinery=20 .MUR Basic/uranium .MAG Machinery/agriculture=20 .BEV Beverages .ARM Machinery/arms & ammunition=20 .BBA Beverages/beer & ale .MCG Machinery/components=20 .BBO Beverages/bottlers .MBE Machinery/bearings=20 .BDI Beverages/distillers .CNT Machinery/containers=20 .BSD Beverages/soft drink syrup .CME Machinery/containers/metal=20 .BWL Beverages/wines and liquors .CPA Machinery/containers/paper = .BRO Broadcasting .CPL Machinery/containers/plastic=20 .BCA Broadcasting/catv .MCM Machinery/construction=20 .BEQ Broadcasting/equipment .MFC Machinery/flow control = filtration=20 .BPE Broadcasting/programming .GLA Machinery/glass products=20 .BRA Broadcasting/radio .MID Machinery/industrial=20 .BTV Broadcasting/television .MMT Machinery/machine tools=20 .BUI Building .MSP Machinery/specialties=20 .BBC Building/brick-cement .MSG Machinery/steam generator=20 .BCC Building/climate controls .MAN = Machinery/manufacturing/distrib=20 .BCE Building/contract-eng-constr .MCN = Machinery/manufacturing/Consumer=20 .BFP Building/forest products .MIU = Machinery/manufacturing/industrial=20 .BHH Building/hardware-handtools .MED Machinery/medical = equipment/suppl=20 .BHO Building/homebuilding .MLR Machinery/medical equipment/res=20 .BPL Building/plumbing .POL Machinery/pollution control=20 .BRW Building/roofing-wallboard .MUT Mutual funds=20 .CHE Chemicals .PUB Publishing=20 .CAG Chemicals/agricultural .PBO Publishing/books=20 .COA Chemicals/coatings-paint-varnishes .PEL = Publishing/electronic=20 .CIG Chemicals/industrial gases .GRA Publishing/graphics=20 .PLA Chemicals/plastics/products .GPR = Publishing/graphics/printing=20 .RFB Chemicals/rubber fabricating .GSE = Publishing/graphics/supplies=20 .DAT Computer .PNE Publishing/newspapers=20 .DCO Computer/components .PPE Publishing/perodicals=20 .DCS Computer/computer systems .PTE Publishing/textbooks=20 .DSE Computer/computer services .COT Retail/cosmetics & = toiletries=20 .DLD Computer/leasing/distributor .COD = Retail/cosmetics-drugs-toiletries=20 .DPE Computer/peripherals .RME Retail/merchandising=20 .DSO Computer/software .RET Retail/stores=20 .CON Conglomerate .RAP Retail/stores/apparel=20 .CDI Conglomerate/diversified .RCF Retail/stores/convenience = foods=20 .DBI Drugs/biotechnology .RDE Retail/stores/department=20 .DRU Drugs/generic and OTC .RDI Retail/stores/discount=20 .DET Drugs/ethical .RDR Retail/stores/drugs=20 .DRE Drugs/research .RFA Retail/stores/fabric=20 .DDW Drugs/wholesalers .RFU Retail/stores/furniture=20 .ELE Electronics .RFS Retail/stores/food supermarkets=20 .ECC Electronics/component-control .RMC Retail/stores/mail = order-catalogs=20 .EEE Electronics/electronic equipment .RSC = Retail/stores/showrooms-catalogs=20 .EDE Electronics/defense .RSP Retail/stores/specialty=20 .EIL Electronics/industry leaders .RWC Retail/stores/warehouse = clubs=20 .EHA Electronics/household appliances .SER Services=20 .EIC Electronics/info-comm services .ADV Services/advertising=20 .EMO Electronics/motors .EDU Services/education=20 .OFF Electronics/office equipment .HEA Services/health = care/centers=20 .ERT Electronics/radios-tv-tape .HHC Services/health = care/services=20 .ESE Electronics/semiconductors .TEL Telecommunications=20 .SPE Electronics/specialty instrumnts .TES = Telecommunications/equipment-service=20 .OIL Energy/Oil-gas .TFO Telecommunications/foreign=20 .OCA Energy/Oil-gas/canadian .TLO Telecommunications/local=20 .OCP Energy/Oil-gas/crude producer .TLD Telecommunications/long = distance=20 .ODO Energy/Oil-gas/domestic .TMC = Telecommunications/mobile-cellular=20 .OFO Energy/Oil-gas/foreign .TSA Telecommunications/satellite=20 .OIN Energy/Oil-gas/international .TAM Textiles/apparel = manufacturer=20 .ORF Energy/Oil-gas/refiner .LEA Textiles/leather shoes=20 .ORE Energy/Oil-gas/retailer .LSP Textiles/leather = shoes/producer=20 .OWD Energy/Oil-gas/wells .LSM Textiles/leather = shoes/mfr.-distrib=20 .FIN Finance .LLE Textiles/leather=20 .FAE Finance/agency .TPR Textiles/producer=20 .FCL Finance/consumer loan .TSF Textiles/synthetic fibers=20 .FDM Finance/diversified misc .TOB Tobacco=20 .INS Finance/insurance .TCI Tobacco/cigarettes=20 .ILH Finance/insurance/life-health .TLS Tobacco/leaf/snuff=20 .IBA Finance/insurance/broker-agency .AER Transport/aerospace=20 .IPC Finance/insurance/property-casualty .AMC = Transport/aerospace/contractors=20 .IMU Finance/insurance/multiline .ASC = Transport/aerospace/components=20 .INV Finance/investment .ARD Transport/aerospace/R&D=20 .FLE Finance/leasing .ATR Transport/air=20 .FMB Finance/mortgage banking-brokers .AIR Transport/aircraft = manf/components=20 .FPA Finance/pawnshops .ASV Transport/aircraft manf/services=20 .FRE Finance/receivables .ACC Transport/cargo-charter=20 .LAN Finance/real estate-land develop. .TFF Transport/freight = forwarding=20 .REA Finance/REITs .REQ Transport/rail equipment=20 .SEC Finance/securities .RCL Transport/rail car leasing=20 .FSE Finance/services .RPA Transport/rail parts-accessories=20 .FSB Finance/S.B.I.C. .RAI Transport/railroads=20 .FOO Food .SHI Transport/shipping-shipbuilding=20 .FBM Food/bakery-mill-sugar .TRU Transport/trucking=20 .FCG Food/candy-gum .UDI Utilities/diversified=20 .FCR Food/corn refiners .UEL Utilities/electric=20 .FDP Food/dairy products .UOP Utilities/electric/operating=20 .FDS Food/distributors .UHO Utilities/electric/holding=20 .FFR Food/frozen .UGA Utilities/gas=20 .FMP Food/meat-poultry .UDS Utilities/gas/distributors=20 .FPS Food/packaged-snacks .UIN Utilities/gas/integrated=20 .FOS Food/serving .UIN Utilities/gas/LP gas=20 .FFS Food/serving/servicing .UPC Utilities/gas/pipeline=20 .FFF Food/serving/fast foods .UPG = Utilities/gas/producer-gatherer=20 .FRS Food/serving/restaurants .UWA Utilities/water=20 .HCF Home/carpets-floor cover .APT Vehicles/auto parts-equipment = .HOM Home/furnishings .ARS Vehicles/auto rental-service=20 .HFU Home/furniture .AUT Vehicles/manufacturers=20 .HOT Home/hotels-motels-inns .MOB Vehicles/mobile-modular homes=20 .HOU Home/household products .AMH Vehicles/motor homes=20 .HSW Home/housewares .ATT Vehicles/trucks-trailers=20 .JSW Home/jewelry-silverware-watches-china =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2E95A.B5674E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know this might be heresy but why = not use the=20 free WallStreetCity?
The industries - names/makeup - are = different=20 than IBD but still....
 
If you click on .BAN Banks = below it wil=20 take you to a chart of that industry.
 
When there, change the menu window = from:=20 Banks   Graph Industry
 
Will give you a quick snapshot of how = the group=20 is doing and the stocks within the group.
 
Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
.BSB Banks/savings banks .OFS Home/office/furniture
.BSL Banks/savings & loan .PET Home/pet & supplies
.ALU Basic/aluminum .INT Internet
.MET Basic/metal .LEI Leisure/amusement
.MOF Basic/metal/other fabricating .LGA Leisure/amusement & gaming = equip.
.MIN Basic/mining .LBO Leisure/boating
.MCL Basic/mining/coal .LBB Leisure/bowling-billiards
.MCP Basic/mining/copper .LCG Leisure/casinos-gaming
.MGO Basic/mining/gold .FIL Leisure/film/entertainment
.MSI Basic/mining/silver .FDI Leisure/film/distributors
.MEX Basic/mining/exploration-development .FTH Leisure/film/theaters
.MIM Basic/mining/industrial minerals .FST Leisure/film/services-equipment
.MJG Basic/mining/junior gold .LMI Leisure/misc
.PAP Basic/paper-products .LMU Leisure/musical instruments
.STE Basic/steel-iron .LPF Leisure/photo
.SMI Basic/steel-iron/major integrated .LRT Leisure/race tracks
.SOI Basic/steel-iron/other integrated .LRH Leisure/records-home video
.SST Basic/steel-iron/stainless .LSC Leisure/sports collectibles
.SOS Basic/steel-iron/other specialties .LSO Leisure/sports-outdoor equip
.SOP Basic/steel-iron/ore producer .LTR Leisure/tourism-resorts
.SSP Basic/steel-iron/converter/processor .LTG Leisure/toys-games
.SMN Basic/steel-iron/minimill .MAC Machinery
.MUR Basic/uranium .MAG Machinery/agriculture
.BEV Beverages .ARM Machinery/arms & ammunition
.BBA Beverages/beer & ale .MCG Machinery/components
.BBO Beverages/bottlers .MBE Machinery/bearings
.BDI Beverages/distillers .CNT Machinery/containers
.BSD Beverages/soft drink syrup .CME Machinery/containers/metal
.BWL Beverages/wines and liquors .CPA Machinery/containers/paper
.BRO Broadcasting .CPL Machinery/containers/plastic
.BCA Broadcasting/catv .MCM Machinery/construction
.BEQ Broadcasting/equipment .MFC Machinery/flow control filtration
.BPE Broadcasting/programming .GLA Machinery/glass products
.BRA Broadcasting/radio .MID Machinery/industrial
.BTV Broadcasting/television .MMT Machinery/machine tools
.BUI Building .MSP Machinery/specialties
.BBC Building/brick-cement .MSG Machinery/steam generator
.BCC Building/climate controls .MAN Machinery/manufacturing/distrib
.BCE Building/contract-eng-constr .MCN Machinery/manufacturing/Consumer
.BFP Building/forest products .MIU Machinery/manufacturing/industrial
.BHH Building/hardware-handtools .MED Machinery/medical equipment/suppl
.BHO Building/homebuilding .MLR Machinery/medical equipment/res
.BPL Building/plumbing .POL Machinery/pollution control
.BRW Building/roofing-wallboard .MUT Mutual funds
.CHE Chemicals .PUB Publishing
.CAG Chemicals/agricultural .PBO Publishing/books
.COA Chemicals/coatings-paint-varnishes .PEL Publishing/electronic
.CIG Chemicals/industrial gases .GRA Publishing/graphics
.PLA Chemicals/plastics/products .GPR Publishing/graphics/printing
.RFB Chemicals/rubber fabricating .GSE Publishing/graphics/supplies
.DAT Computer .PNE Publishing/newspapers
.DCO Computer/components .PPE Publishing/perodicals
.DCS Computer/computer systems .PTE Publishing/textbooks
.DSE Computer/computer services .COT Retail/cosmetics & toiletries
.DLD Computer/leasing/distributor .COD Retail/cosmetics-drugs-toiletries
.DPE Computer/peripherals .RME Retail/merchandising
.DSO Computer/software .RET Retail/stores
.CON Conglomerate .RAP Retail/stores/apparel
.CDI Conglomerate/diversified .RCF Retail/stores/convenience foods
.DBI Drugs/biotechnology .RDE Retail/stores/department
.DRU Drugs/generic and OTC .RDI Retail/stores/discount
.DET Drugs/ethical .RDR Retail/stores/drugs
.DRE Drugs/research .RFA Retail/stores/fabric
.DDW Drugs/wholesalers .RFU Retail/stores/furniture
.ELE Electronics .RFS Retail/stores/food supermarkets
.ECC Electronics/component-control .RMC Retail/stores/mail order-catalogs
.EEE Electronics/electronic equipment .RSC Retail/stores/showrooms-catalogs
.EDE Electronics/defense .RSP Retail/stores/specialty
.EIL Electronics/industry leaders .RWC Retail/stores/warehouse clubs
.EHA Electronics/household appliances .SER Services
.EIC Electronics/info-comm services .ADV Services/advertising
.EMO Electronics/motors .EDU Services/education
.OFF Electronics/office equipment .HEA Services/health care/centers
.ERT Electronics/radios-tv-tape .HHC Services/health care/services
.ESE Electronics/semiconductors .TEL Telecommunications
.SPE Electronics/specialty instrumnts .TES Telecommunications/equipment-service
.OIL Energy/Oil-gas .TFO Telecommunications/foreign
.OCA Energy/Oil-gas/canadian .TLO Telecommunications/local
.OCP Energy/Oil-gas/crude producer .TLD Telecommunications/long distance
.ODO Energy/Oil-gas/domestic .TMC Telecommunications/mobile-cellular
.OFO Energy/Oil-gas/foreign .TSA Telecommunications/satellite
.OIN Energy/Oil-gas/international .TAM Textiles/apparel manufacturer
.ORF Energy/Oil-gas/refiner .LEA Textiles/leather shoes
.ORE Energy/Oil-gas/retailer .LSP Textiles/leather shoes/producer
.OWD Energy/Oil-gas/wells .LSM Textiles/leather shoes/mfr.-distrib
.FIN Finance .LLE Textiles/leather
.FAE Finance/agency .TPR Textiles/producer
.FCL Finance/consumer loan .TSF Textiles/synthetic fibers
.FDM Finance/diversified misc .TOB Tobacco
.INS Finance/insurance .TCI Tobacco/cigarettes
.ILH Finance/insurance/life-health .TLS Tobacco/leaf/snuff
.IBA Finance/insurance/broker-agency .AER Transport/aerospace
.IPC Finance/insurance/property-casualty .AMC Transport/aerospace/contractors
.IMU Finance/insurance/multiline .ASC Transport/aerospace/components
.INV Finance/investment .ARD Transport/aerospace/R&D
.FLE Finance/leasing .ATR Transport/air
.FMB Finance/mortgage banking-brokers .AIR Transport/aircraft manf/components
.FPA Finance/pawnshops .ASV Transport/aircraft manf/services
.FRE Finance/receivables .ACC Transport/cargo-charter
.LAN Finance/real estate-land develop. .TFF Transport/freight forwarding
.REA Finance/REITs .REQ Transport/rail equipment
.SEC Finance/securities .RCL Transport/rail car leasing
.FSE Finance/services .RPA Transport/rail parts-accessories
.FSB Finance/S.B.I.C. .RAI Transport/railroads
.FOO Food .SHI Transport/shipping-shipbuilding
.FBM Food/bakery-mill-sugar .TRU Transport/trucking
.FCG Food/candy-gum .UDI Utilities/diversified
.FCR Food/corn refiners .UEL Utilities/electric
.FDP Food/dairy products .UOP Utilities/electric/operating
.FDS Food/distributors .UHO Utilities/electric/holding
.FFR Food/frozen .UGA Utilities/gas
.FMP Food/meat-poultry .UDS Utilities/gas/distributors
.FPS Food/packaged-snacks .UIN Utilities/gas/integrated
.FOS Food/serving .UIN Utilities/gas/LP gas
.FFS Food/serving/servicing .UPC Utilities/gas/pipeline
.FFF Food/serving/fast foods .UPG Utilities/gas/producer-gatherer
.FRS Food/serving/restaurants .UWA Utilities/water
.HCF Home/carpets-floor cover .APT Vehicles/auto parts-equipment
.HOM Home/furnishings .ARS Vehicles/auto rental-service
.HFU Home/furniture .AUT Vehicles/manufacturers
.HOT Home/hotels-motels-inns .MOB Vehicles/mobile-modular homes
.HOU Home/household products .AMH Vehicles/motor homes
.HSW Home/housewares .ATT Vehicles/trucks-trailers
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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2E95A.B5674E50-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Richards" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 13 Mar 2003 20:05:32 -0600 Well, I covered all my shorts the last three days. And did not go long. Just sitting in cash for the first time in months. But am I afraid that the rally will pass me by? NO. There is always another train coming down the track. The real point is you don't want to be on the track when the train runs over you. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back in. Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has been typically well under average. So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least some minor relief rally. Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller Date: 13 Mar 2003 20:48:56 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02A0_01C2E9A1.F70BB020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it.=20 WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry movement = click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service that = costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their = write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry group = rotation table. This table is designed to show group rotations for the = last two months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help investors = profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of = the various industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in = industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups = showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This = information is useful because it gives the investor advanced notice of = future group movements. In addition to updating this chart every Monday, = the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world analytical = analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding of this = very important group rotation table. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups = - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I found = the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups = advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss = it?? Thanks again nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - = smaller version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too large. = Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... = If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of = that industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: = Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the = stocks within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list. Symbol Description Symbol Description=20 .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment=20 =20 regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_02A0_01C2E9A1.F70BB020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nancy, yes ..... you = overlooked it.=20
 
WallStreetCity has that = feature. If=20 you want to see industry movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part = of their=20 premium service that costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free = trial. Here's=20 their write-up:
 

Each Monday = WallStreetCity publishes=20 a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  This table is = designed to=20 show group rotations for the last two months on a week-by-week = basis.  The=20 table can help investors profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of = capital=20 in and out of the various industry groups. Groups showing large = positive=20 moves in industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, = while groups=20 showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This=20 information is useful because it gives the investor advanced notice of = future=20 group movements. In addition to updating this chart every Monday, the = analysts=20 at WallStreetCity will provide real-world analytical analysis of the Big = Chart=20 to give you a better understanding of this very important group rotation = table.

Gene

 

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 = 2:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I = found the=20 industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups = advance or=20 decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss it?? Thanks = again=20 nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 11:20=20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
 
I sent out a complete list of = industries but=20 the file was too large. Here's a smaller version.....

sent = earlier

I know this might be heresy but why not use the = free=20 WallStreetCity?
The industries - names/makeup - are different = than IBD=20 but still....

If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will = take you to=20 a chart of that industry.

When there, change the menu window = from:=20 Banks   Graph=20 = Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a quick = snapshot=20 of how the group is doing and the stocks within the = group.
 
You can change Banks to ALL = INDUSTRY GROUPS=20 to see the entire list.
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
------=_NextPart_000_02A0_01C2E9A1.F70BB020-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Date: 13 Mar 2003 19:05:49 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E993.8F7885E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am looking for.= IBD has a similar feature to this one in there industry rankings( I buy= the paper a couple of times a week from the rack). I really am looking = for 1 industries move every month for the long term. I can find it in IB= D if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a month and search for = each industry and log where it is at this month. That would be very time= consuming-I appreciate all your help though. I think Katherine had the = right idea of what I was after-maybe she will incorporate it into her sit= e. I think this chart I am looking for would give a comprehensive pictur= e of what industries and what stocks are on the move - and in what direct= ion. Thanks again nancy p.s. on your urging I did join AAII.:-) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:52 PM mallerversion Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it. =20 WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry movement cli= ck on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9= .95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry group rotat= ion table. This table is designed to show group rotations for the last t= wo months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help investors profit b= y apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the various= industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in industry group r= anks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups showing large neg= ative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This information is use= ful because it gives the investor advanced notice of future group movemen= ts. In addition to updating this chart every Monday, the analysts at Wall= StreetCity will provide real-world analytical analysis of the Big Chart t= o give you a better understanding of this very important group rotation t= able. Gene ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM maller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I found the i= ndustry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups advanc= e or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss it?? Thank= s again nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM er version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too large. Here= 's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... =20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of that in= dustry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: Bank= s List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks w= ithin the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list. SymbolDescriptionSymbolDescription .BAN Banks.OFU Home/office/equipment regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E993.8F7885E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I may try it out gene but I still dont th= ink it is what I am looking for.  IBD has a similar feature to this = one in there industry rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a = week from the rack).  I really am looking for 1 industries move ever= y month for the long term.  I can find it in IBD if I set up my own = chart and buy the paper once a month and search for each industry and log= where it is at this month.  That would be very time consuming-I app= reciate all your help though.  I think Katherine had the right idea = of what I was after-maybe she will incorporate it into her site.  I = think this chart I am looking for would give a comprehensive picture of w= hat industries and what stocks are on the move - and in what direction. T= hanks again nancy  p.s. on your urging I did join AAII.:-)
 
<= DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----
From: = Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, M= arch 13, 2003 6:52 PM
To: ca= nslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject= : Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smal= lerversion
 
Nancy, yes= ..... you overlooked it.
 
= WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry movemen= t click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service that cos= ts $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up:<= /FONT>
 

Each Monday WallS= treetCity publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  = This table is designed to show group rotations for the last two months on= a week-by-week basis.  The table can help investors profit by appri= sing them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the various indust= ry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in industry group ran= ks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups showing large negat= ive moves indicate a move lower for that group. This information is usefu= l because it gives the investor advanced notice of future group movements= . In addition to updating this chart every Monday, the analysts at WallSt= reetCity will provide real-world analytical analysis of the Big Chart to = give you a better understanding of this very important group rotation tab= le.

Gene

 

----- Original Message -----
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM<= /DIV>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why N= ot Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for.= I found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the= groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I m= iss it?? Thanks again nancy
 
-----= Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Gr= oups - smaller version
 
I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too l= arge. Here's a smaller version.....

sent earlier

I k= now this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity?
The = industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still....

= If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of that in= dustry.

When there, change the menu window from: Banks  = Graph Industry
         =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;       to: Banks   List of Stoc= ks

Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and th= e stocks within the group.
 
You can change Ban= ks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list.

Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
 
reg= ards,
Gene
------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2E993.8F7885E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 13 Mar 2003 23:12:26 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2E9B6.030E1750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nancy, The short answer to your question is, yes, we intend to add the very thing you are asking about. As you know, I'm a big believer in looking for *rising* industry strength. Without going into detail, we will be ranking each industry, but will be doing so a little differently than the IBD. That is, the IBD looks only at weighted average price movement for the stocks in the industry to derive their industry rankings. Ours will be ever so slightly more comprehensive, but enough that it more clearly demonstrates the movement of the industry. Currently, subscribers at the site can click on an industry and see all the stocks in the industry ranked in RSRank order. The industry ranking itself will be in place in the near future, along with a charting feature, which is as I understand it, is exactly what you are looking for. Here's an example, though don't pay much attention to the actual numbers in this particular chart, as it was generated before we finalized our industry ranking system. http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/SampleIndustryChart.JPG Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I cant believe people dont offer this. If you have an industry in front of you and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started at 195 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline situation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the industry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready and get in early on the forward progress. Thanks again for the info nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. 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Hi Nancy,
 
The short answer to your question = is, yes,=20 we intend to add the very thing you are asking about. As you know, I'm a = big=20 believer in looking for *rising* industry strength. Without going into = detail,=20 we will be ranking each industry, but will be doing so a little = differently than=20 the IBD. That is, the IBD looks only at weighted average price movement = for the=20 stocks in the industry to derive their industry rankings. Ours will be = ever so=20 slightly more comprehensive, but enough that it more clearly = demonstrates=20 the movement of the industry. Currently, subscribers at the site can = click on an=20 industry and see all the stocks in the industry ranked in RSRank order. = The=20 industry ranking itself will be in place in the near future, along with = a=20 charting feature, which is as I understand it, is exactly what you are = looking=20 for.
 
Here's an example, though don't = pay much=20 attention to the actual numbers in this particular chart, as it was = generated=20 before we finalized our industry ranking system.
 
http:= //www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/SampleIndustryChart.JPG=   
 
 
Katherine
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY=20 POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM
To: = canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF=20 Format

thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info = sort? I=20 cant believe people dont offer this.  If you have an industry in = front of=20 you and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started = at 195=20 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline = situation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the = industry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be = ready and=20 get in early on the forward progress.  Thanks again for the info=20 nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 12:06=20 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format
 
Hi=20 Nancy,
 
The = electronic=20 version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for = download PDF=20 document, essentially an electronic version of the book. = Unfortunately, it's=20 not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to = get the=20 information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in=20 form.
 
In order = to see the=20 industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to = have a=20 basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD = their=20 industry group feature on top of that (an additional=20 $200/yr).
 
The most = cost=20 effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to = the=20 QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the = DGO=20 industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO = itself.=20 And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks = within=20 industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the = testing on=20 additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as = an=20 additional feature within our core product=20 offering.
 
Beyond = that, you're=20 somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for = industry=20 status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page = where they=20 show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I = think it=20 all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much = time=20 you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the = trade-off=20 between time, money and analysis tools.
 
Katherine
 
 -----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY=20 POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 = PM
To:=20 canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF=20 Format

Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as = added if=20 you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your = computer? =20 I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 = months or=20 every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00.  Wouldnt you be = able to=20 supplement the list with new additions from another site list of=20 industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day = that=20 included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is = finding=20 a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or = monthly=20 basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month = it is 172=20 of 197 then another month 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an = easy=20 way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in = numerical=20 order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the = industry=20 and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I = think=20 this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling = behind=20 and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help  = nancy
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 9:26=20 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format
 
That's exactly it, Tom. = The=20 information is updated each day and you can download an updated = version=20 each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do=20 it!!!
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD=20 Industry Groups in PDF Format

since it's not a subscription, I have = my=20 suspicions that they would not alert you when your last = download went=20 out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 = and try=20 again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change = every few=20 weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a=20 year.
 
What a gimmick!!!
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF=20 Format

Hi All,
 
The subject of industry = group=20 inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so = thought I'd=20 forward this new reference.
 
IBD has finally provided = an=20 electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. = Updates=20 are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as = with the=20 printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll = pay=20 $39.99 for the privilege of each download.
 
http://www= .dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp
 
Still, it's a nice = addition to=20 their product offerings, especially just after a major change = in=20 industry groupings as they had last week.
 
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed = the changes=20 to the industry groups, they are:
Where there is a = combination of 2=20 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed = next to=20 each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were = combined into=20 one.
 
=
<= FONT class=3Dcntbartxt color=3D#ffffff size=3D2>Symbol<= B>Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
Dropped DGO=20 Industries New DGO=20 Industries
Computer-Optical=20 Recogtn
Elec-Control=20 Instruments
Elec-Laser=20 Sys/Component
Comml Svcs-Consulting  =20
Comml=20 Svcs-Market Rsrch
Media-Diversified      =20
Retail-Leisure Products
Telecom-Wireless Equip  =
Elec-Contract Mfg      =20
Electrical-Connectors   = Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components        =20
Fiber Optic Components  = Telecom-Fiber Optics   =20
Fiber Optic Networks   =20
Elec-Measrng=20 Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng  =20
Elec-Scientific=20 Instrmnt
 
Computer-Services      =20 Computer-Tech Services  =
Computer-Graphics      =20 Computer Sftwr-Design  =20
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage  =20
Textile-Apparel Mfg    =20 Apparel-Clothing Mfg   =20
Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe    =20 Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous   =20
Shoes & Rel Apparel    =20 Retail-Clothing/Shoe   =20
Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns  =
Household-Audio/Video   = Household-Consumer Elec=20 =
<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2E9B6.030E1750-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 13 Mar 2003 22:10:39 -0800 Hi Tom: It sure looked like mostly short-covering from my vantage point. We were due for it. That being said, the Oct 10 - Dec 3 rally started out the same way - driven by temporary seller exhaustion and a ton of short covering. So theres nothing to say that this cannot last a while too. One thing that really stands out to me is that the SOXX actually bottomed way back on February 7 - and resisted any drop in the last 2 weeks. The SOXX is up 11 1/2% from yesterdays low, which is a staggering 9 hours of trading for a major index. IMO, this increases the chances that there are a few days/weeks of staying power in the NASDAQ just from the strength of the semis. Just remember, that if you look at a 3-year weekly chart of the OEX, and watch the 40-week EMA, you will find that it has been the ceiling for every rally. So if we do have a rally, I'd be looking to go short at OEX 460. We'll see. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:24 PM > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 00:41:38 -0500 Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't be disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? Thanks, Mike >> OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back in. Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has been typically well under average. So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least some minor relief rally. Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley << - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 14 Mar 2003 00:06:17 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E9BD.88DA64E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sounds perfect-would it be possible for you put a sample on this board w= hen you get it finished so we can see it?? Thanks nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:17 PM Hi Nancy, The short answer to your question is, yes, we intend to add the very thin= g you are asking about. As you know, I'm a big believer in looking for *r= ising* industry strength. Without going into detail, we will be ranking e= ach industry, but will be doing so a little differently than the IBD. Tha= t is, the IBD looks only at weighted average price movement for the stock= s in the industry to derive their industry rankings. Ours will be ever so= slightly more comprehensive, but enough that it more clearly demonstrate= s the movement of the industry. Currently, subscribers at the site can cl= ick on an industry and see all the stocks in the industry ranked in RSRan= k order. The industry ranking itself will be in place in the near future,= along with a charting feature, which is as I understand it, is exactly w= hat you are looking for. Here's an example, though don't pay much attention to the actual numbers = in this particular chart, as it was generated before we finalized our ind= ustry ranking system. http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/SampleIndustryChart.JPG =20 Katherine -----Original Message----- on.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I ca= nt believe people dont offer this. If you have an industry in front of y= ou and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started at 1= 95 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline= situation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the i= ndustry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready= and get in early on the forward progress. Thanks again for the info nan= cy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay = for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book.= Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is = just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise= no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products= , you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and = then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an addition= al $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subsc= ribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to= the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DG= O itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks with= in industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testin= g on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as a= n additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various= tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an ind= ustry page where they show the %price change for each industry over sever= al periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the inf= ormation, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to sp= end to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- on.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you di= dnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the = book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quar= ter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement th= e list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(lik= e the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one= thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy gr= oups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 1= 97 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 19= 7. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In th= e paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to s= earch out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and= where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of wh= at progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thank= s for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can d= ownload an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 eac= h time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- on.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not a= lert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find ou= t would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for= them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only= done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on = the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. =20 IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ti= cker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of t= imes a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however= , as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just a= fter a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you wil= l see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber opti= cs groups were combined into one. 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sounds perfect-would it be possible for &= nbsp;you put a sample on this board when you get it finished so we can se= e it?? Thanks  nancy
 
----- O= riginal Message -----
From: Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:17 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry G= roups in PDF Format
 
= Hi Nancy,
 = ;
The short answer to your qu= estion is, yes, we intend to add the very thing you are asking about. As = you know, I'm a big believer in looking for *rising* industry strength. W= ithout going into detail, we will be ranking each industry, but will be d= oing so a little differently than the IBD. That is, the IBD looks only at= weighted average price movement for the stocks in the industry to derive= their industry rankings. Ours will be ever so slightly more comprehensiv= e, but enough that it more clearly demonstrates the movement of the = industry. Currently, subscribers at the site can click on an industry and= see all the stocks in the industry ranked in RSRank order. The industry = ranking itself will be in place in the near future, along with a charting= feature, which is as I understand it, is exactly what you are looking fo= r.
 
=
Here's an example, though don't pa= y much attention to the actual numbers in this particular chart, as it wa= s generated before we finalized our industry ranking system.
=
 
 
 
Katherine
-----Original Message-----
<= B>From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.= xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, = March 13, 2003 2:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANS= LIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

thanks k= atherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I cant belie= ve people dont offer this.  If you have an industry in front of you = and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started at 195 = and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline si= tuation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the indu= stry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready an= d get in early on the forward progress.  Thanks again for the info n= ancy
 
----- Original Message -----=
From: Katherine Malm
Sen= t: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format<= /DIV>
 
Hi Na= ncy,
&nb= sp;
The = electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for = download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unf= ortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just= a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no = different in form.
 
In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD = products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per ye= ar) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an = additional $200/yr).
 
The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries= is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially e= quivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools = than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability t= o see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are comp= leting the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be av= ailable soon as an additional feature within our core product o= ffering.
 
Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of = free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For = example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change = for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly= how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how muc= h money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money= and analysis tools.
=  
=
Katherine
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: owne= r-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]= On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1= :40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industr= y Groups in PDF Format

Katherine , would you have access to the new ad= ditions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on = your computer?  I got the book once-I think at the time it was updat= ed every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00.  = Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from anothe= r site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the othe= r day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in= is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or= monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month= it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197.  Does anyone know o= f an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed i= n numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of = the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. = etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and fal= ling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help  n= ancy
 
----- Original Message -----=
From: Katherine Malm
Sen= t: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format
 
That's exa= ctly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an= updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you= do it!!!
=
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmiss= ion.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom = Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM
To: ca= nslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Gr= oups in PDF Format

since it'= s not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you = when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would b= e to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to = make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3= times a year.
 
<= DIV>What a gimmick!!!
 
----- Original M= essage -----
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM
=
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Hi All,=
 
The subject of industry group inclusion see= ms to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new r= eference.
&nbs= p;
IBD has finally provided a= n electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates = are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the pr= inted edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for= the privilege of each download.
 
 
Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especia= lly just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week= .
 
=
Katherine
 
PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they= are:
Where there is a= combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups= listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were c= ombined into one.
 
Computer= -Optical Recogtn Comml Svcs-Consulting   = = <= TD style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece= 9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transpare= nt" height=3D17> = <= TR style=3D"HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=3D17> =
Dropped DGO Industries<= /FONT> New DGO Industries=
Elec-Control Instruments
Elec-Laser Sys/Co= mponent
Comml Svcs-M= arket Rsrch
Media-Di= versified     =  
Retai= l-Leisure Products
T= elecom-Wireless Equip 
Elec-Contract Mfg<= SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">      
=
Electrical-Connectors   Elec-Component/Connectr
Elec-Components&nb= sp;       
Fiber Optic Components  Telecom-Fiber Optics   
Fiber Optic Networks &n= bsp; 
Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-= Scientific/Msrng  
Elec-Scientif= ic Instrmnt
=  
Computer-Services  &= nbsp;    Computer-Tech S= ervices 
Computer-Graphics  = ;     Computer Sftw= r-Design  
Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data S= torage  
<= FONT face=3DArial>Textile-Apparel Mfg&n= bsp;    Apparel-Clothing M= fg   
Retail/Whlsle-Auto Pa= rts Retail/Whlsle-Auto= s/Prts
Retail-Apparel/Shoe     Apparel= -Shoes & Rel Mfg
Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous &nb= sp; 
Shoes & Rel Appar= el     Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sl= tns Internet-Network Sltns 
Household-Audio/Video=    Household-Consumer Elec
<= /BLOCKQUOTE>
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2E9BD.88DA64E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 06:12:23 -0500 strictly market days, Mike ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't be disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? Thanks, Mike >> OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back in. Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has been typically well under average. So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least some minor relief rally. Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley << - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 06:35:40 -0700 Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? Rolf > strictly market days, Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't be > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > Thanks, > Mike > > > >> > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > << > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:53:36 -0500 I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on its own merits. It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while only most were benefiting on Wednesday ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? Rolf > strictly market days, Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't be > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > Thanks, > Mike > > > >> > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > << > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:56:53 -0500 that should have been "into a moderate gain", not loss. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on its own merits. It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while only most were benefiting on Wednesday ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? Rolf > strictly market days, Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't be > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > Thanks, > Mike > > > >> > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > << > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:04:31 -0600 Katherine, How much will it cost for this functionality at your site? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Katherine Malm" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format ission.com 03/13/2003 11:12 PM Please respond to canslim Hi Nancy, The short answer to your question is, yes, we intend to add the very thing you are asking about. As you know, I'm a big believer in looking for *rising* industry strength. Without going into detail, we will be ranking each industry, but will be doing so a little differently than the IBD. That is, the IBD looks only at weighted average price movement for the stocks in the industry to derive their industry rankings. Ours will be ever so slightly more comprehensive, but enough that it more clearly demonstrates the movement of the industry. Currently, subscribers at the site can click on an industry and see all the stocks in the industry ranked in RSRank order. The industry ranking itself will be in place in the near future, along with a charting feature, which is as I understand it, is exactly what you are looking for. Here's an example, though don't pay much attention to the actual numbers in this particular chart, as it was generated before we finalized our industry ranking system. http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/SampleIndustryChart.JPG Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I cant believe people dont offer this. If you have an industry in front of you and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started at 195 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline situation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the industry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready and get in early on the forward progress. Thanks again for the info nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Elec-Scientific/Msrng Instruments Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Parts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:42:18 -0600 Hi Mike, This functionality will be added to our existing service, though we have not yet finalized which level it will be included. You can see the subscription rates for Gold, Silver and Platinum levels at the site (www.cwhcharts.com) under the "Subscription" menu. If there are any others who have specific questions about the service, please contact me offline so as not to stray off topic on the list. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:05 AM Katherine, How much will it cost for this functionality at your site? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Katherine Malm" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format ission.com 03/13/2003 11:12 PM Please respond to canslim Hi Nancy, The short answer to your question is, yes, we intend to add the very thing you are asking about. As you know, I'm a big believer in looking for *rising* industry strength. Without going into detail, we will be ranking each industry, but will be doing so a little differently than the IBD. That is, the IBD looks only at weighted average price movement for the stocks in the industry to derive their industry rankings. Ours will be ever so slightly more comprehensive, but enough that it more clearly demonstrates the movement of the industry. Currently, subscribers at the site can click on an industry and see all the stocks in the industry ranked in RSRank order. The industry ranking itself will be in place in the near future, along with a charting feature, which is as I understand it, is exactly what you are looking for. Here's an example, though don't pay much attention to the actual numbers in this particular chart, as it was generated before we finalized our industry ranking system. http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/SampleIndustryChart.JPG Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format thanks katherine-will you new additions have this kind of info sort? I cant believe people dont offer this. If you have an industry in front of you and you see monthly it has moved up 10 spaces a month, it started at 195 and now in 1 year its at 75-barring something drastic like the airline situation-it seems like it would then be time to start researching the industry and the stocks within it(charts-product-ratings etc.) to be ready and get in early on the forward progress. Thanks again for the info nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:06 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Elec-Scientific/Msrng Instruments Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Parts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:50:10 -0600 The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - don't lose big. Good investing Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back in. Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has been typically well under average. So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least some minor relief rally. Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 09:53:25 -0500 Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the IRA and the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But I gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up 5%!!!! Arrrrgggghhhhh!! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - don't lose big. Good investing Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or short covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing back in. Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume well exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has been typically well under average. So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least some minor relief rally. Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust technicals? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:20:06 -0700 Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:25:44 -0500 I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Katona" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 07:29:48 -0800 IBD today's Big Picture says yesterday was "Second day of attempted rally" Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:26 AM I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "david frank" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 09:31:16 -0600 Who said that CANSLIM was dead? The challenge is still there. Tell us when "M" is "M", and name one stock that you are buying, the buy point, the sell point, and the stop point, which will not be a recommendation, but for educational purposes only. One should be more humble and not relish so much. Thank you, Dave ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM > Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the IRA and > the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But I > gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up 5%!!!! > Arrrrgggghhhhh!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a > great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of > screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. > The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with > yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread > lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build > slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - > don't lose big. > > Good investing > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:32:51 -0500 That's a true statement, it is the second day of an "attempted rally". What I was referring to was counting the days from a rally for the purposes of a FT (Follow Through) day. WON does not consider the 2nd or 3rd day in this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:29 AM IBD today's Big Picture says yesterday was "Second day of attempted rally" Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:26 AM I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:35:18 -0500 David, I presume you are addressing this post to those members that in some way suggested CANSLIM is "dead"?? Certainly I have made no such suggestion, nor do I remember Ed doing so either. Ed's comment is in reference to other posts that raised this idea. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:31 AM Who said that CANSLIM was dead? The challenge is still there. Tell us when "M" is "M", and name one stock that you are buying, the buy point, the sell point, and the stop point, which will not be a recommendation, but for educational purposes only. One should be more humble and not relish so much. Thank you, Dave ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM > Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the IRA and > the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But I > gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up 5%!!!! > Arrrrgggghhhhh!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a > great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of > screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. > The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with > yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread > lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build > slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - > don't lose big. > > Good investing > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Katona" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 07:39:00 -0800 I'm counting Wednesday as 1st day of attempted rally, Thursday as 2nd day, today as third day. Monday will be 4th day and first possible follow-thru day. I think Tom and I are saying the same thing. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:33 AM That's a true statement, it is the second day of an "attempted rally". What I was referring to was counting the days from a rally for the purposes of a FT (Follow Through) day. WON does not consider the 2nd or 3rd day in this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:29 AM IBD today's Big Picture says yesterday was "Second day of attempted rally" Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:26 AM I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:43:39 -0500 not quite, Tim. I take a slower approach. I also do not count Wednesday as a "rally" day in my terms, simply a reversal day, since the price gain was not significant (I want to see a 2% gain on volume above average). So Thursday starts my rally, Friday thru Tuesday are days 1-3, and I watch for a FT day starting next Wednesday. I think most people would be a day ahead of me, using Thursday as Day 1, I just count a little differently as I like to see the complete day first. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:39 AM I'm counting Wednesday as 1st day of attempted rally, Thursday as 2nd day, today as third day. Monday will be 4th day and first possible follow-thru day. I think Tom and I are saying the same thing. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:33 AM That's a true statement, it is the second day of an "attempted rally". What I was referring to was counting the days from a rally for the purposes of a FT (Follow Through) day. WON does not consider the 2nd or 3rd day in this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:29 AM IBD today's Big Picture says yesterday was "Second day of attempted rally" Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:26 AM I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Katona" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 07:53:45 -0800 Tom, Yes, we are different. So back to Rolf's question "you think your count is in accordance with WON?" WON is counting from Wednesday per IBD and you are counting from Thursday. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:44 AM not quite, Tim. I take a slower approach. I also do not count Wednesday as a "rally" day in my terms, simply a reversal day, since the price gain was not significant (I want to see a 2% gain on volume above average). So Thursday starts my rally, Friday thru Tuesday are days 1-3, and I watch for a FT day starting next Wednesday. I think most people would be a day ahead of me, using Thursday as Day 1, I just count a little differently as I like to see the complete day first. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:39 AM I'm counting Wednesday as 1st day of attempted rally, Thursday as 2nd day, today as third day. Monday will be 4th day and first possible follow-thru day. I think Tom and I are saying the same thing. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:33 AM That's a true statement, it is the second day of an "attempted rally". What I was referring to was counting the days from a rally for the purposes of a FT (Follow Through) day. WON does not consider the 2nd or 3rd day in this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:29 AM IBD today's Big Picture says yesterday was "Second day of attempted rally" Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:26 AM I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:59:15 -0500 I don't read IBD, so I have not seen the one comment quoted in the context of the article. Yes, we had two days in a row where the market was up in price. Yes, that means a two day rally. Does IBD also consider both days as counting towards a FT day? I don't know, you would have to ask them, unless the article so states. Does IBD consistently represent WON teachings? NO Do I believe WON would count Thursday as Day 2 towards the count for a FT day? No Do I believe WON would count Thursday as Day 1 towards the count for a FT day? Yes Hope that answers your questions. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:53 AM Tom, Yes, we are different. So back to Rolf's question "you think your count is in accordance with WON?" WON is counting from Wednesday per IBD and you are counting from Thursday. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:44 AM not quite, Tim. I take a slower approach. I also do not count Wednesday as a "rally" day in my terms, simply a reversal day, since the price gain was not significant (I want to see a 2% gain on volume above average). So Thursday starts my rally, Friday thru Tuesday are days 1-3, and I watch for a FT day starting next Wednesday. I think most people would be a day ahead of me, using Thursday as Day 1, I just count a little differently as I like to see the complete day first. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:39 AM I'm counting Wednesday as 1st day of attempted rally, Thursday as 2nd day, today as third day. Monday will be 4th day and first possible follow-thru day. I think Tom and I are saying the same thing. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:33 AM That's a true statement, it is the second day of an "attempted rally". What I was referring to was counting the days from a rally for the purposes of a FT (Follow Through) day. WON does not consider the 2nd or 3rd day in this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:29 AM IBD today's Big Picture says yesterday was "Second day of attempted rally" Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:26 AM I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance with WON? Rolf > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use it > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand on > its own merits. > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > Rolf > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > be > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > > >> > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > << > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:06:29 -0600 David -Canslim is not dead, just hibernating - I was just recalling the hot debate that was bubbling on this board over the last couple of weeks. I won't do this very often but here is an example of a stock we recently purchased: OVTI - Omnivision Technologies Bought 2/28/2003 @ $18.49 Sold half initial position on 3/7/2003 @ $18.29 Bought 3/13/2003 at $19.82 off pivot. Initial stop at 17.50 - will raise today There is no sell point unless the stock performs poorly. Look in IBD today page B8 Nasdaq recap. Also - I hope the group realizes that I am very humble - the quickest and easiest way to get you head handed to you is to think that you are bigger than the market - been there, done that. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:31 AM Who said that CANSLIM was dead? The challenge is still there. Tell us when "M" is "M", and name one stock that you are buying, the buy point, the sell point, and the stop point, which will not be a recommendation, but for educational purposes only. One should be more humble and not relish so much. Thank you, Dave ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM > Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the IRA and > the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But I > gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up 5%!!!! > Arrrrgggghhhhh!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a > great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of > screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. > The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with > yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread > lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build > slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - > don't lose big. > > Good investing > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 09:15:48 -0700 I've been following the example from 24 Lessons, pg. 78. The first day of an attempted rally is a day in which an index closes up sans volume considerations. A FTD day usually occurs on day 4 to 7 (higher volume, 2% increase). From Tim's comments, IBD is following that criteria. I guess an 'attempted' rally becomes a 'confirmed' rally if a FTD occurs on days 4 thru 7 (and as late as 10). I try to qualify 'attempts' based on the action of the first day; we've had at least a couple of weak attempts (that failed) lately. Rolf > I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance > with WON? > > Rolf > > > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use > it > > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand > on > > its own merits. > > > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > > > Rolf > > > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > > be > > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >> > > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > > short > > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > > back > > > in. > > > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > > well > > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > > > been typically well under average. > > > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > > > some minor relief rally. > > > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > > technicals? > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > << > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:15:55 -0600 Ed, Just curious, you have a $17.50 stop on a purchase of $19.82, so that is a 12% loss stop. Is that normally how you work it, or are you particularly giving this stock more room to move? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Edward W. Gjertsen II" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/14/2003 10:06 AM Please respond to canslim David -Canslim is not dead, just hibernating - I was just recalling the hot debate that was bubbling on this board over the last couple of weeks. I won't do this very often but here is an example of a stock we recently purchased: OVTI - Omnivision Technologies Bought 2/28/2003 @ $18.49 Sold half initial position on 3/7/2003 @ $18.29 Bought 3/13/2003 at $19.82 off pivot. Initial stop at 17.50 - will raise today There is no sell point unless the stock performs poorly. Look in IBD today page B8 Nasdaq recap. Also - I hope the group realizes that I am very humble - the quickest and easiest way to get you head handed to you is to think that you are bigger than the market - been there, done that. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:31 AM Who said that CANSLIM was dead? The challenge is still there. Tell us when "M" is "M", and name one stock that you are buying, the buy point, the sell point, and the stop point, which will not be a recommendation, but for educational purposes only. One should be more humble and not relish so much. Thank you, Dave ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM > Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the IRA and > the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But I > gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up 5%!!!! > Arrrrgggghhhhh!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a > great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of > screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. > The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with > yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread > lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build > slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - > don't lose big. > > Good investing > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:54:00 -0800 WON used to be quite unequivocal that Thursday was day 1. He seems to have been waffling the last few years - adding a little 'hope' into the equation. Tsk tsk :) Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:39 AM > I'm counting Wednesday as 1st day of attempted rally, Thursday as 2nd day, > today as third day. Monday will be 4th day and first possible follow-thru > day. I think Tom and I are saying the same thing. > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:33 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > That's a true statement, it is the second day of an "attempted rally". What > I was referring to was counting the days from a rally for the purposes of a > FT (Follow Through) day. WON does not consider the 2nd or 3rd day in this. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Katona" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:29 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > IBD today's Big Picture says yesterday was "Second day of attempted rally" > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:26 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance > with WON? > > Rolf > > > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use > it > > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand > on > > its own merits. > > > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > > > Rolf > > > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > > be > > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >> > > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > > short > > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > > back > > > in. > > > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > > well > > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > > > been typically well under average. > > > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > > > some minor relief rally. > > > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > > technicals? > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > << > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:26:47 -0600 No - we are moving it up - an 8% hard stop would put us around $17.62 from an adjusted cost basis of $19.15. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:16 AM Ed, Just curious, you have a $17.50 stop on a purchase of $19.82, so that is a 12% loss stop. Is that normally how you work it, or are you particularly giving this stock more room to move? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Edward W. Gjertsen II" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/14/2003 10:06 AM Please respond to canslim David -Canslim is not dead, just hibernating - I was just recalling the hot debate that was bubbling on this board over the last couple of weeks. I won't do this very often but here is an example of a stock we recently purchased: OVTI - Omnivision Technologies Bought 2/28/2003 @ $18.49 Sold half initial position on 3/7/2003 @ $18.29 Bought 3/13/2003 at $19.82 off pivot. Initial stop at 17.50 - will raise today There is no sell point unless the stock performs poorly. Look in IBD today page B8 Nasdaq recap. Also - I hope the group realizes that I am very humble - the quickest and easiest way to get you head handed to you is to think that you are bigger than the market - been there, done that. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:31 AM Who said that CANSLIM was dead? The challenge is still there. Tell us when "M" is "M", and name one stock that you are buying, the buy point, the sell point, and the stop point, which will not be a recommendation, but for educational purposes only. One should be more humble and not relish so much. Thank you, Dave ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM > Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the IRA and > the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But I > gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up 5%!!!! > Arrrrgggghhhhh!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a > great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of > screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. > The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with > yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread > lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build > slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - > don't lose big. > > Good investing > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "david frank" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 10:29:34 -0600 Ed, I believe, I mentioned several weeks ago that Canslim was near death. I just wonder if the bull will show it's head (FTD) for the 16th time and will quickly hibernate again. Thank you for mentioning OVTI, but this purchase was after the fact, not before, and where was "M" at in this purchase? Dave ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:06 AM > David -Canslim is not dead, just hibernating - I was just recalling the > hot debate that was bubbling on this board over the last couple of > weeks. I won't do this very often but here is an example of a stock we > recently purchased: > > OVTI - Omnivision Technologies > Bought 2/28/2003 @ $18.49 > Sold half initial position on 3/7/2003 @ $18.29 > Bought 3/13/2003 at $19.82 off pivot. > Initial stop at 17.50 - will raise today > > There is no sell point unless the stock performs poorly. > > Look in IBD today page B8 Nasdaq recap. > > Also - I hope the group realizes that I am very humble - the quickest > and easiest way to get you head handed to you is to think that you are > bigger than the market - been there, done that. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:31 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > Who said that CANSLIM was dead? The challenge is still there. Tell us > when > "M" is "M", and name one stock that you are buying, the buy point, the > sell > point, and the stop point, which will not be a recommendation, but for > educational purposes only. One should be more humble and not relish so > much. > Thank you, Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Worley" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the > IRA > and > > the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But > I > > gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up > 5%!!!! > > Arrrrgggghhhhh!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like > a > > great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of > > screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all > this. > > The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with > > yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread > > lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build > > slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - > > don't lose big. > > > > Good investing > > > > Ed Gjertsen II > > ed@macktracks.com > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, > > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, > use, > > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > > copies of the original message. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM > > To: CANSLIM > > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > > short > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > > back > > in. > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > > well > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > > has > > been typically well under average. > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > > day > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after > war > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > > least > > some minor relief rally. > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > > technicals? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Katona" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" with references to WON books Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:40:05 -0800 Rolf, That was the page I was looking for! From page 78 of WON's 24 lessons book, In bold letters: "You only start counting a rally if the close is up from the prior day." In this case, Wednesday March 12 did close higher than Tuesday. Also on page 78: ""Follow-through" day. Index up 1% or more on increased volume from the day before. Market is in new uptrend. Usually occurs fourth through seventh day of an attempted rally." (Since 24 lessons was published WON did change the "Index up 1% or more on increased volume from the day before" to 2% or more.) Also see HTMMIS third edition pages 64 and 65 on rally attempt, 2% reasoning and follow-through day. Interesting, WON says that a follow-through could even occur on the third day of a rally attempt if certain conditions exist. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rolf Hertenstein Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:16 AM I've been following the example from 24 Lessons, pg. 78. The first day of an attempted rally is a day in which an index closes up sans volume considerations. A FTD day usually occurs on day 4 to 7 (higher volume, 2% increase). From Tim's comments, IBD is following that criteria. I guess an 'attempted' rally becomes a 'confirmed' rally if a FTD occurs on days 4 thru 7 (and as late as 10). I try to qualify 'attempts' based on the action of the first day; we've had at least a couple of weak attempts (that failed) lately. Rolf > I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance > with WON? > > Rolf > > > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use > it > > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand > on > > its own merits. > > > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > > > Rolf > > > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > > be > > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >> > > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > > short > > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > > back > > > in. > > > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > > well > > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > > > been typically well under average. > > > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > > > some minor relief rally. > > > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > > technicals? > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > << > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Date: 14 Mar 2003 11:01:13 -0600 Ed, Okay, so you averaged the multiple purchases. I think I understand. Thanks for the clarification. Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Edward W. Gjertsen II" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/14/2003 10:26 AM Please respond to canslim No - we are moving it up - an 8% hard stop would put us around $17.62 from an adjusted cost basis of $19.15. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:16 AM Ed, Just curious, you have a $17.50 stop on a purchase of $19.82, so that is a 12% loss stop. Is that normally how you work it, or are you particularly giving this stock more room to move? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Edward W. Gjertsen II" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/14/2003 10:06 AM Please respond to canslim David -Canslim is not dead, just hibernating - I was just recalling the hot debate that was bubbling on this board over the last couple of weeks. I won't do this very often but here is an example of a stock we recently purchased: OVTI - Omnivision Technologies Bought 2/28/2003 @ $18.49 Sold half initial position on 3/7/2003 @ $18.29 Bought 3/13/2003 at $19.82 off pivot. Initial stop at 17.50 - will raise today There is no sell point unless the stock performs poorly. Look in IBD today page B8 Nasdaq recap. Also - I hope the group realizes that I am very humble - the quickest and easiest way to get you head handed to you is to think that you are bigger than the market - been there, done that. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:31 AM Who said that CANSLIM was dead? The challenge is still there. Tell us when "M" is "M", and name one stock that you are buying, the buy point, the sell point, and the stop point, which will not be a recommendation, but for educational purposes only. One should be more humble and not relish so much. Thank you, Dave ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM > Good point, Ed. I am doing a little better, up about 5% in both the IRA and > the margin accounts since last Friday, nearly that in my VR Fund. But I > gained over 10% in the margin acct yesterday in order to now be up 5%!!!! > Arrrrgggghhhhh!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > The preponderant messages relating to the death of canslim seemed like a > great contrarian indicator. Those followers who are not in front of > screens all day should by all means be on the sidelines during all this. > The S&P from last Friday to this morning was only up 0.36% even with > yesterday's 3.45% gain. It is still a treacherous market, tread > lightly, and if you invest go small - if you have a profit - build > slowly. We call our approach aggressive conservation - if you lose - > don't lose big. > > Good investing > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:25 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > short > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > back > in. > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > well > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > been typically well under average. > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > some minor relief rally. > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > technicals? > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" with references to WON books Date: 14 Mar 2003 11:46:10 -0600 Hi All, Here's a summary explanation of WON's guidelines for both the "old" and the "new" definition of a FTD: http://www.market-tester.com/newft.htm My read on WON's guidelines is that 1%+ would be fine if it were accompanied by a slew of breakouts. 2% is useful, but even it doesn't hold water without a slew of stocks at least *setting up* for breakout. In either case, it only makes sense that the "market" is a summary indicator of its individual components. If the majority of individual CANSLIM-quality stocks are acting well, then our "market" is healthy. If the individual CANSLIM-quality stocks are not acting well, it's a mine field. As Ed said, grounds for stepping lightly. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tim Katona Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:40 AM Rolf, That was the page I was looking for! From page 78 of WON's 24 lessons book, In bold letters: "You only start counting a rally if the close is up from the prior day." In this case, Wednesday March 12 did close higher than Tuesday. Also on page 78: ""Follow-through" day. Index up 1% or more on increased volume from the day before. Market is in new uptrend. Usually occurs fourth through seventh day of an attempted rally." (Since 24 lessons was published WON did change the "Index up 1% or more on increased volume from the day before" to 2% or more.) Also see HTMMIS third edition pages 64 and 65 on rally attempt, 2% reasoning and follow-through day. Interesting, WON says that a follow-through could even occur on the third day of a rally attempt if certain conditions exist. Tim -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rolf Hertenstein Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:16 AM I've been following the example from 24 Lessons, pg. 78. The first day of an attempted rally is a day in which an index closes up sans volume considerations. A FTD day usually occurs on day 4 to 7 (higher volume, 2% increase). From Tim's comments, IBD is following that criteria. I guess an 'attempted' rally becomes a 'confirmed' rally if a FTD occurs on days 4 thru 7 (and as late as 10). I try to qualify 'attempts' based on the action of the first day; we've had at least a couple of weak attempts (that failed) lately. Rolf > I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance > with WON? > > Rolf > > > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price gain > > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove to > > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use > it > > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand > on > > its own merits. > > > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, while > > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > > > Rolf > > > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I wouldn't > > be > > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >> > > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > > short > > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > > back > > > in. > > > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > > well > > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > has > > > been typically well under average. > > > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > day > > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after war > > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > least > > > some minor relief rally. > > > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > > technicals? > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > << > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M Date: 14 Mar 2003 13:16:17 EST Ian: I haven't been on the forum for a few days-so someone may have already replied to your E-mail. In any event here's my response after seeing today's IBD: IBD makes the exact same point you do-the only difference is that its focus is on the NASDAQ Composite. Today (Friday, 3/14/03) IBD says, "The tech-heavy index [NASDAQ]... has showed quiet accumulation. Note how up days in higher volume outnumber down days in higher volume. Trading usually wasn't above average, but institutions were building positions. This ...support is apparent from NASDAQ's Accumulation/Distribution Rating. It climbed to an A+ Thursday after sitting on an A since the beginning of March." To answer your questions: I didn't notice this pattern (although I kinda expected a boost to the index, both because of the OverSold nature of the NASDAQ and because its RS Line has been in Strong Divergence since this new downtrend began in 12/02). As far as predictions: I'd want to see 1) whether or not there is a follow-through-and when, and 2) how the index reacts to the downtrending 200 moving average. jans In a message dated 3/11/2003 3:11:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, ianstm@shaw.ca writes: << Over the last 3 weeks (Since Feb 18 - 16 trading days) the QQQ's have had 6 days of increasing, above-average volume. On each of these 6 days, the index went up. On nine of the ten days of declining, below-average volume, the index went down. Overall, the QQQ is down about 5% (from 25.25 to 24) over those 16 days. Does anyone recognize this pattern and know if there are historical precedents for the likely direction from here? Dp all these volume days with no 'breakout' forward progress indicate distribution? Thanks, Ian >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe McCall" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Date: 14 Mar 2003 12:18:55 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2EA23.E1D17230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't heard anyone mention Prophet.net. They do exactly what you = are talking about. Go to "Explore" & "Industry Rankings". You can then = show performance for each of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, = 2, 3, 6 months, 1, 2 years. You can then sort the list by rank OR by = rank change. If you click on the industry, it will show you small = charts of all the stocks in that industry. You can add color volume to = the charts and do technical analysis. It is all free. I am surprised = no one mentions this on this group. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups = - smallerversion I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am looking = for. IBD has a similar feature to this one in there industry rankings( = I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the rack). I really am = looking for 1 industries move every month for the long term. I can find = it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a month and = search for each industry and log where it is at this month. That would = be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help though. I think = Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she will = incorporate it into her site. I think this chart I am looking for would = give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what stocks are on = the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy p.s. on your = urging I did join AAII.:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:52 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it.=20 WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry = movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service = that costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their = write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry group = rotation table. This table is designed to show group rotations for the = last two months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help investors = profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of = the various industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in = industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups = showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This = information is useful because it gives the investor advanced notice of = future group movements. In addition to updating this chart every Monday, = the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world analytical = analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding of this = very important group rotation table. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I = found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the = groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I = miss it?? Thanks again nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too = large. Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free = WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but = still....=20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart = of that industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry = to: Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the = stocks within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire = list. Symbol Description Symbol Description=20 .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment=20 =20 regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2EA23.E1D17230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't heard anyone mention = Prophet.net.  They do=20 exactly what you are talking about.  Go to "Explore" = & "Industry=20 Rankings".  You can then show performance for each of the = industries in 2,=20 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, 1, 2 years.  You can = then sort=20 the list by rank OR by rank change.  If you click on the industry, = it will=20 show you small charts of all the stocks in that industry.  You can = add=20 color volume to the charts and do technical analysis.  It is all=20 free.   I am surprised no one mentions this on this=20 group.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 = 9:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am = looking=20 for.  IBD has a similar feature to this one in there = industry=20 rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the = rack).  I=20 really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long = term.  I=20 can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a = month and=20 search for each industry and log where it is at this month.  That = would=20 be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help though.  I = think=20 Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she will = incorporate it=20 into her site.  I think this chart I am looking for would give a=20 comprehensive picture of what industries and what stocks are on the = move - and=20 in what direction. Thanks again nancy  p.s. on your urging I did = join=20 AAII.:-)
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 6:52=20 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion
 
Nancy, yes ..... you = overlooked it.=20
 
WallStreetCity has = that feature.=20 If you want to see industry movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart = is part=20 of their premium service that costs $9.95 per month. There is a = 30-day free=20 trial. Here's their write-up:
 

Each Monday = WallStreetCity=20 publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  This = table is=20 designed to show group rotations for the last two months on a = week-by-week=20 basis.  The table can help investors profit by apprising them = of the=20 ebb and flow of capital in and out of the various industry=20 groups. Groups showing large positive moves in industry group = ranks=20 indicate a move higher in the future, while groups showing large = negative=20 moves indicate a move lower for that group. This information is = useful=20 because it gives the investor advanced notice of future group = movements. In=20 addition to updating this chart every Monday, the analysts at = WallStreetCity=20 will provide real-world analytical analysis of the Big Chart to give = you a=20 better understanding of this very important group rotation=20 table.

Gene

 

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 2:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I = found=20 the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the = groups=20 advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I = miss it??=20 Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003=20 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
 
I sent out a complete list of = industries=20 but the file was too large. Here's a smaller = version.....

sent=20 earlier

I know this might be heresy but why not use = the free=20 WallStreetCity?
The industries - names/makeup - are different = than=20 IBD but still....

If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it = will=20 take you to a chart of that industry.

When there, change = the menu=20 window from: Banks   Graph=20 = Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a = quick=20 snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the=20 group.
 
You can change Banks to ALL = INDUSTRY=20 GROUPS to see the entire list.
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
= ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2EA23.E1D17230-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Ricci Subject: [CANSLIM] Prophet.net Date: 14 Mar 2003 12:40:09 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_044F_01C2EA26.D97BC7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joe, at first glance it looks terrific (as well as free). Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe McCall=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups = - smallerversion I haven't heard anyone mention Prophet.net. They do exactly what you = are talking about. Go to "Explore" & "Industry Rankings". You can then = show performance for each of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, = 2, 3, 6 months, 1, 2 years. You can then sort the list by rank OR by = rank change. If you click on the industry, it will show you small = charts of all the stocks in that industry. You can add color volume to = the charts and do technical analysis. It is all free. I am surprised = no one mentions this on this group. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am looking = for. IBD has a similar feature to this one in there industry rankings( = I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the rack). I really am = looking for 1 industries move every month for the long term. I can find = it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a month and = search for each industry and log where it is at this month. That would = be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help though. I think = Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she will = incorporate it into her site. I think this chart I am looking for would = give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what stocks are on = the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy p.s. on your = urging I did join AAII.:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:52 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it.=20 WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry = movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service = that costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their = write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry = group rotation table. This table is designed to show group rotations = for the last two months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help = investors profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and = out of the various industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves = in industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while = groups showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that = group. This information is useful because it gives the investor advanced = notice of future group movements. In addition to updating this chart = every Monday, the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world = analytical analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding = of this very important group rotation table. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I = found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the = groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I = miss it?? Thanks again nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too = large. Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free = WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but = still....=20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart = of that industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph = Industry = to: Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and = the stocks within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire = list. Symbol Description Symbol Description=20 .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment=20 =20 regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_044F_01C2EA26.D97BC7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe, at first glance it looks = terrific=20 (as well as free).
Thanks for bringing it to our = attention,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joe = McCall=20
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 = 12:18=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I haven't heard anyone mention = Prophet.net.  They=20 do exactly what you are talking about.  Go to "Explore"=20 & "Industry Rankings".  You can then show performance = for each=20 of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, 1, = 2=20 years.  You can then sort the list by rank OR by rank = change.  If=20 you click on the industry, it will show you small charts of all the = stocks in=20 that industry.  You can add color volume to the charts and do = technical=20 analysis.  It is all free.   I am surprised no one = mentions=20 this on this group.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 9:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am = looking=20 for.  IBD has a similar feature to this one in there = industry=20 rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the = rack).  I=20 really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long = term. =20 I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once = a month=20 and search for each industry and log where it is at this = month.  That=20 would be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help = though.  I=20 think Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she = will=20 incorporate it into her site.  I think this chart I am looking = for=20 would give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what = stocks are on=20 the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy  p.s. on = your=20 urging I did join AAII.:-)
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 6:52=20 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion
 
Nancy, yes ..... you = overlooked it.=20
 
WallStreetCity has = that=20 feature. If you want to see industry movement click on Big Chart. = Big=20 Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9.95 per month. = There=20 is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up:
 

Each Monday = WallStreetCity=20 publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  = This table=20 is designed to show group rotations for the last two months on a=20 week-by-week basis.  The table can help investors profit by = apprising=20 them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the various = industry=20 groups. Groups showing large positive moves in industry group = ranks=20 indicate a move higher in the future, while groups showing large = negative=20 moves indicate a move lower for that group. This information is = useful=20 because it gives the investor advanced notice of future group = movements.=20 In addition to updating this chart every Monday, the analysts at=20 WallStreetCity will provide real-world analytical analysis of the = Big=20 Chart to give you a better understanding of this very important = group=20 rotation table.

Gene

 

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 2:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. = I found=20 the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the = groups=20 advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I = miss=20 it?? Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
 
I sent out a complete list = of=20 industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller=20 version.....

sent earlier

I know this = might be=20 heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity?
The = industries -=20 names/makeup - are different than IBD but still....

If = you=20 click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of = that=20 industry.

When there, change the menu window from:=20 Banks   Graph=20 = Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a = quick=20 snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the=20 group.
 
You can change Banks to ALL = INDUSTRY=20 GROUPS to see the entire list.
Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
= ------=_NextPart_000_044F_01C2EA26.D97BC7E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe McCall" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Prophet.net Date: 14 Mar 2003 12:49:32 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C2EA28.290BDD30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I didn't even talk about their "javacharts" and "snapcharts". The = javacharts are very user-friendly (you can detach them and enlarge = them), and the snapcharts have more technical analysis available where = you can make & save your own settings. You can view the same settings = every time you go back. I am amazed that it is all free. The only = thing I think they charge for is real time stock data. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Prophet.net Joe, at first glance it looks terrific (as well as free). Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe McCall=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion I haven't heard anyone mention Prophet.net. They do exactly what = you are talking about. Go to "Explore" & "Industry Rankings". You can = then show performance for each of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 = days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, 1, 2 years. You can then sort the list by rank = OR by rank change. If you click on the industry, it will show you small = charts of all the stocks in that industry. You can add color volume to = the charts and do technical analysis. It is all free. I am surprised = no one mentions this on this group. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am = looking for. IBD has a similar feature to this one in there industry = rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the rack). I = really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long term. = I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a = month and search for each industry and log where it is at this month. = That would be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help though. I = think Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she will = incorporate it into her site. I think this chart I am looking for would = give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what stocks are on = the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy p.s. on your = urging I did join AAII.:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:52 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it.=20 WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry = movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service = that costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their = write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry = group rotation table. This table is designed to show group rotations = for the last two months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help = investors profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and = out of the various industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves = in industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while = groups showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that = group. This information is useful because it gives the investor advanced = notice of future group movements. In addition to updating this chart = every Monday, the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world = analytical analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding = of this very important group rotation table. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I = found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the = groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I = miss it?? Thanks again nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was = too large. Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free = WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but = still....=20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a = chart of that industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph = Industry = to: Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and = the stocks within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the = entire list. Symbol Description Symbol Description=20 .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment=20 =20 regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C2EA28.290BDD30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I didn't even talk about their "javacharts" and = "snapcharts".  The javacharts are very user-friendly (you can = detach them=20 and enlarge them), and the snapcharts have more technical analysis = available=20 where you can make & save your own settings.  You can view the = same=20 settings every time you go back.  I am amazed that it is all = free. =20 The only thing I think they charge for is real time stock = data.
 
Joe
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene = Ricci
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 = 12:40=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Prophet.net

Joe, at first glance it = looks terrific=20 (as well as free).
Thanks for bringing it to = our=20 attention,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joe = McCall=20
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 = 12:18=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I haven't heard anyone mention = Prophet.net. =20 They do exactly what you are talking about.  Go to "Explore"=20 & "Industry Rankings".  You can then show performance = for each=20 of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, = 1, 2=20 years.  You can then sort the list by rank OR by rank = change.  If=20 you click on the industry, it will show you small charts of all the = stocks=20 in that industry.  You can add color volume to the charts and = do=20 technical analysis.  It is all free.   I am surprised = no one=20 mentions this on this group.
 
Joe
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 9:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am = looking=20 for.  IBD has a similar feature to this one in there = industry=20 rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the = rack).  I=20 really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long=20 term.  I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy = the=20 paper once a month and search for each industry and log where it = is at=20 this month.  That would be very time consuming-I appreciate = all your=20 help though.  I think Katherine had the right idea of what I = was=20 after-maybe she will incorporate it into her site.  I think = this=20 chart I am looking for would give a comprehensive picture of what=20 industries and what stocks are on the move - and in what = direction. Thanks=20 again nancy  p.s. on your urging I did join AAII.:-)
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 6:52=20 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion
 
Nancy, yes ..... you = overlooked=20 it.
 
WallStreetCity has that=20 feature. If you want to see industry movement click on Big = Chart. Big=20 Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9.95 per = month. There=20 is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up:
 

Each Monday = WallStreetCity=20 publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  = This=20 table is designed to show group rotations for the last two = months on a=20 week-by-week basis.  The table can help investors profit by = apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the = various=20 industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in = industry=20 group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups = showing=20 large negative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This=20 information is useful because it gives the investor advanced = notice of=20 future group movements. In addition to updating this chart every = Monday,=20 the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world = analytical=20 analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding of = this=20 very important group rotation table.

Gene

 

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not=20 Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking = for. I=20 found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but = not the=20 groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or = year-did I=20 miss it?? Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
 
I sent out a complete list = of=20 industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller=20 version.....

sent earlier

I know this = might be=20 heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity?
The = industries -=20 names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... =

If you=20 click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of = that=20 industry.

When there, change the menu window from:=20 Banks   Graph=20 = Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a = quick=20 snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the = group.
 
You can change Banks to = ALL INDUSTRY=20 GROUPS to see the entire list.
Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
= ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C2EA28.290BDD30-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Date: 14 Mar 2003 13:03:17 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2EA2A.145C8950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joe, Prophet.net has come up in the past along with other free sites for industry charts/analysis such as BigCharts, WallStreetCity, etc., though not as frequently. (I'll be sure to add the reference to the list FAQ) If the goal is to identify movement in the industries or the components of the industry, I see any site which lists the information is useful. Just as a point of reference, I thought it would be worth noting the difference between the industry rank identification methodology at any of these free sites vs. the IBD/DGO or the QP2/HGS methodology: -Both the IBD/DGO and the free sites use the average price of the stocks within that industry to calculate the percentage change for the industry as a whole. For example, if there if one stock in the industry that is priced at $500 and 20 stocks priced at $1, the $500 stock is going to pull the weight for the "industry" as a whole, because it's price relative to all other stocks is very large by comparison. When averaged across 21 stocks, it creates great influence. Also, the greater the number of stocks within the industry, the more the movement of the leaders is masked by the averaging out across all stocks in the industry as a whole. The same is true in reverse, in which the action of one particular stock in an industry with very few members can make it appear as though the industry as a whole is "very healthy." We saw that recently when Williams' wireless spinoff yanked the whole industry up in the rankings. Every other stock in the industry was a technical nightmare. -Each of the free sites uses a "flat" change in price over some period of time to identify an industry as being 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. -IBD/DGO uses a weighted price movement of the average price over the last 2 quarters. I'd have to look back in my notes to verify the percentages are correct, but the price is weighted as follows: --Price change in current quarter * 70% plus --Price change over previous quarter * 30%. Industries are then ranked from "best" to "worst" and given a GroupRS from 99 to 1 (and a derivative A-D letter grade) and are also ranked from 1st to 197th in the IBD. That means that the IBD is placing the most weight on action in the most recent quarter with a nod to action in the previous quarter, so there is not a simple one on one comparison in rankings nor in ranking movement between the IBD approach and any of the free sites. That doesn't detract from their usefullness by any means, but it does mean that they are not substitutable for IBD rankings or the change in rankings over time. -From what I've seen, all of these resources plot the average *price* of the industry over time, but neither the free sites nor IBD/DGO chart the *rank* over time as Nancy was originally asking about. They do, however, show change in rank (the IBD only in the industry table in the printed edition), but do not show it visually. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe McCall Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:19 PM smallerversion I haven't heard anyone mention Prophet.net. They do exactly what you are talking about. Go to "Explore" & "Industry Rankings". You can then show performance for each of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, 1, 2 years. You can then sort the list by rank OR by rank change. If you click on the industry, it will show you small charts of all the stocks in that industry. You can add color volume to the charts and do technical analysis. It is all free. I am surprised no one mentions this on this group. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: NANCY POLCARO To: canslim Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am looking for. IBD has a similar feature to this one in there industry rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the rack). I really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long term. I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a month and search for each industry and log where it is at this month. That would be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help though. I think Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she will incorporate it into her site. I think this chart I am looking for would give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what stocks are on the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy p.s. on your urging I did join AAII.:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:52 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it. WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table. This table is designed to show group rotations for the last two months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help investors profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the various industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This information is useful because it gives the investor advanced notice of future group movements. In addition to updating this chart every Monday, the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world analytical analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding of this very important group rotation table. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: NANCY POLCARO To: canslim Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss it?? Thanks again nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of that industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list. Symbol Description Symbol Description .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2EA2A.145C8950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Joe,
 
Prophet.net = has come up=20 in the past along with other free sites for industry charts/analysis = such as=20 BigCharts, WallStreetCity, etc., though not as frequently. (I'll be sure = to add=20 the reference to the list FAQ) If the goal is to identify movement = in the=20 industries or the components of the industry, I see any site which lists = the=20 information is useful.
 
Just as a = point of=20 reference, I thought it would be worth noting the difference between the = industry rank identification methodology at any of these free sites vs. = the=20 IBD/DGO or the QP2/HGS methodology:
 
-Both the = IBD/DGO and the=20 free sites use the average price of the stocks within that industry to = calculate=20 the percentage change for the industry as a whole. For example, if there = if one=20 stock in the industry that is priced at $500 and 20 stocks priced at $1, = the=20 $500 stock is going to pull the weight for the "industry" as a whole, = because=20 it's price relative to all other stocks is very large by comparison. = When=20 averaged across 21 stocks, it creates great influence. Also, the greater = the=20 number of stocks within the industry, the more the movement of the = leaders is=20 masked by the averaging out across all stocks in the industry as a = whole. The=20 same is true in reverse, in which the action of one particular stock in = an=20 industry with very few members can make it appear as though the industry = as a=20 whole is "very healthy." We saw that recently when Williams' wireless = spinoff=20 yanked the whole industry up in the rankings. Every other stock in the = industry=20 was a technical nightmare.
 
-Each of the = free sites=20 uses a "flat" change in price over some period of time to identify an = industry=20 as being 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.
 
-IBD/DGO uses = a weighted=20 price movement of the average price over the last 2 quarters. I'd have = to look=20 back in my notes to verify the percentages are correct, but the price is = weighted as follows:
  --Price change in current = quarter *=20 70% plus
  --Price change over = previous quarter=20 * 30%.
Industries = are then=20 ranked from "best" to "worst" and given a GroupRS from 99 to 1 (and a = derivative=20 A-D letter grade) and are also ranked from 1st to 197th in the=20 IBD.
 
That means = that the IBD=20 is placing the most weight on action in the most recent quarter with a = nod to=20 action in the previous quarter, so there is not a simple one on one = comparison=20 in rankings nor in ranking movement between the IBD approach and any of = the free=20 sites. That doesn't detract from their usefullness by any means, but it = does=20 mean that they are not substitutable for IBD rankings or the change in = rankings=20 over time.
 
-From what = I've seen, all=20 of these resources plot the average *price* of the industry over time, = but=20 neither the free sites nor IBD/DGO chart the *rank* over time as Nancy = was=20 originally asking about. They do, however, show change in rank (the = IBD=20 only in the industry table in the printed edition), but do not show it=20 visually.
 
Katherine
 
 -----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe=20 McCall
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:19 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I haven't heard anyone mention = Prophet.net.  They=20 do exactly what you are talking about.  Go to "Explore"=20 & "Industry Rankings".  You can then show performance = for each=20 of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, 1, = 2=20 years.  You can then sort the list by rank OR by rank = change.  If=20 you click on the industry, it will show you small charts of all the = stocks in=20 that industry.  You can add color volume to the charts and do = technical=20 analysis.  It is all free.   I am surprised no one = mentions=20 this on this group.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 9:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am = looking=20 for.  IBD has a similar feature to this one in there = industry=20 rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the = rack).  I=20 really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long = term. =20 I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once = a month=20 and search for each industry and log where it is at this = month.  That=20 would be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help = though.  I=20 think Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she = will=20 incorporate it into her site.  I think this chart I am looking = for=20 would give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what = stocks are on=20 the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy  p.s. on = your=20 urging I did join AAII.:-)
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 6:52=20 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion
 
Nancy, yes ..... you = overlooked it.=20
 
WallStreetCity has = that=20 feature. If you want to see industry movement click on Big Chart. = Big=20 Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9.95 per month. = There=20 is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up:
 

Each Monday = WallStreetCity=20 publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  = This table=20 is designed to show group rotations for the last two months on a=20 week-by-week basis.  The table can help investors profit by = apprising=20 them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the various = industry=20 groups. Groups showing large positive moves in industry group = ranks=20 indicate a move higher in the future, while groups showing large = negative=20 moves indicate a move lower for that group. This information is = useful=20 because it gives the investor advanced notice of future group = movements.=20 In addition to updating this chart every Monday, the analysts at=20 WallStreetCity will provide real-world analytical analysis of the = Big=20 Chart to give you a better understanding of this very important = group=20 rotation table.

Gene

 

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 2:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. = I found=20 the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the = groups=20 advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I = miss=20 it?? Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
 
I sent out a complete list = of=20 industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller=20 version.....

sent earlier

I know this = might be=20 heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity?
The = industries -=20 names/makeup - are different than IBD but still....

If = you=20 click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of = that=20 industry.

When there, change the menu window from:=20 Banks   Graph=20 = Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a = quick=20 snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the=20 group.
 
You can change Banks to ALL = INDUSTRY=20 GROUPS to see the entire list.
Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
= ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2EA2A.145C8950-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe McCall" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Date: 14 Mar 2003 13:18:08 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C2EA2C.27C77980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Katherine, That is very good to know. Thank you. =20 By the way, I am constantly amazed at the depth and quality of your = replies on this message board. Tom's too. =20 Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups = - smallerversion Hi Joe, Prophet.net has come up in the past along with other free sites for = industry charts/analysis such as BigCharts, WallStreetCity, etc., though = not as frequently. (I'll be sure to add the reference to the list FAQ) = If the goal is to identify movement in the industries or the components = of the industry, I see any site which lists the information is useful. Just as a point of reference, I thought it would be worth noting the = difference between the industry rank identification methodology at any = of these free sites vs. the IBD/DGO or the QP2/HGS methodology: -Both the IBD/DGO and the free sites use the average price of the = stocks within that industry to calculate the percentage change for the = industry as a whole. For example, if there if one stock in the industry = that is priced at $500 and 20 stocks priced at $1, the $500 stock is = going to pull the weight for the "industry" as a whole, because it's = price relative to all other stocks is very large by comparison. When = averaged across 21 stocks, it creates great influence. Also, the greater = the number of stocks within the industry, the more the movement of the = leaders is masked by the averaging out across all stocks in the industry = as a whole. The same is true in reverse, in which the action of one = particular stock in an industry with very few members can make it appear = as though the industry as a whole is "very healthy." We saw that = recently when Williams' wireless spinoff yanked the whole industry up in = the rankings. Every other stock in the industry was a technical = nightmare. -Each of the free sites uses a "flat" change in price over some period = of time to identify an industry as being 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.=20 -IBD/DGO uses a weighted price movement of the average price over the = last 2 quarters. I'd have to look back in my notes to verify the = percentages are correct, but the price is weighted as follows: --Price change in current quarter * 70% plus --Price change over previous quarter * 30%. Industries are then ranked from "best" to "worst" and given a GroupRS = from 99 to 1 (and a derivative A-D letter grade) and are also ranked = from 1st to 197th in the IBD. That means that the IBD is placing the most weight on action in the = most recent quarter with a nod to action in the previous quarter, so = there is not a simple one on one comparison in rankings nor in ranking = movement between the IBD approach and any of the free sites. That = doesn't detract from their usefullness by any means, but it does mean = that they are not substitutable for IBD rankings or the change in = rankings over time. -From what I've seen, all of these resources plot the average *price* = of the industry over time, but neither the free sites nor IBD/DGO chart = the *rank* over time as Nancy was originally asking about. They do, = however, show change in rank (the IBD only in the industry table in the = printed edition), but do not show it visually. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe McCall Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:19 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups = - smallerversion I haven't heard anyone mention Prophet.net. They do exactly what = you are talking about. Go to "Explore" & "Industry Rankings". You can = then show performance for each of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 = days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, 1, 2 years. You can then sort the list by rank = OR by rank change. If you click on the industry, it will show you small = charts of all the stocks in that industry. You can add color volume to = the charts and do technical analysis. It is all free. I am surprised = no one mentions this on this group. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am = looking for. IBD has a similar feature to this one in there industry = rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the rack). I = really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long term. = I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a = month and search for each industry and log where it is at this month. = That would be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help though. I = think Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she will = incorporate it into her site. I think this chart I am looking for would = give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what stocks are on = the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy p.s. on your = urging I did join AAII.:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:52 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smallerversion Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it.=20 WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry = movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service = that costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their = write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry = group rotation table. This table is designed to show group rotations = for the last two months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help = investors profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and = out of the various industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves = in industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while = groups showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that = group. This information is useful because it gives the investor advanced = notice of future group movements. In addition to updating this chart = every Monday, the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world = analytical analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding = of this very important group rotation table. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I = found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the = groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I = miss it?? Thanks again nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry = Groups - smaller version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was = too large. Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free = WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but = still....=20 If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a = chart of that industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph = Industry = to: Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and = the stocks within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the = entire list. Symbol Description Symbol Description=20 .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment=20 =20 regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C2EA2C.27C77980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Katherine,
 
That is very good to know.  Thank = you. =20
 
By the way, I am constantly amazed at the depth = and=20 quality of your replies on this message board.  Tom's too. =20
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 = 1:03=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

Hi=20 Joe,
 
Prophet.net = has come up=20 in the past along with other free sites for industry charts/analysis = such as=20 BigCharts, WallStreetCity, etc., though not as frequently. (I'll be = sure to=20 add the reference to the list FAQ) If the goal is to identify = movement in=20 the industries or the components of the industry, I see any site which = lists=20 the information is useful.
 
Just as a = point of=20 reference, I thought it would be worth noting the difference between = the=20 industry rank identification methodology at any of these free sites = vs. the=20 IBD/DGO or the QP2/HGS methodology:
 
-Both the = IBD/DGO and=20 the free sites use the average price of the stocks within that = industry to=20 calculate the percentage change for the industry as a whole. For = example, if=20 there if one stock in the industry that is priced at $500 and 20 = stocks priced=20 at $1, the $500 stock is going to pull the weight for the "industry" = as a=20 whole, because it's price relative to all other stocks is very large = by=20 comparison. When averaged across 21 stocks, it creates great = influence. Also,=20 the greater the number of stocks within the industry, the more the = movement of=20 the leaders is masked by the averaging out across all stocks in the = industry=20 as a whole. The same is true in reverse, in which the action of one = particular=20 stock in an industry with very few members can make it appear as = though the=20 industry as a whole is "very healthy." We saw that recently when = Williams'=20 wireless spinoff yanked the whole industry up in the rankings. Every = other=20 stock in the industry was a technical nightmare.
 
-Each of = the free sites=20 uses a "flat" change in price over some period of time to identify an = industry=20 as being 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.
 
-IBD/DGO = uses a=20 weighted price movement of the average price over the last 2 quarters. = I'd=20 have to look back in my notes to verify the percentages are correct, = but the=20 price is weighted as follows:
  --Price change in current = quarter *=20 70% plus
  --Price change over = previous=20 quarter * 30%.
Industries = are then=20 ranked from "best" to "worst" and given a GroupRS from 99 to 1 (and a=20 derivative A-D letter grade) and are also ranked from 1st to 197th in = the=20 IBD.
 
That means = that the IBD=20 is placing the most weight on action in the most recent quarter with a = nod to=20 action in the previous quarter, so there is not a simple one on one = comparison=20 in rankings nor in ranking movement between the IBD approach and any = of the=20 free sites. That doesn't detract from their usefullness by any means, = but it=20 does mean that they are not substitutable for IBD rankings or the = change in=20 rankings over time.
 
-From what = I've seen,=20 all of these resources plot the average *price* of the industry over = time, but=20 neither the free sites nor IBD/DGO chart the *rank* over time as Nancy = was=20 originally asking about. They do, however, show change in rank = (the IBD=20 only in the industry table in the printed edition), but do not show it = visually.
 
Katherine
 
 -----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe=20 McCall
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:19 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - = smallerversion

I haven't heard anyone mention = Prophet.net. =20 They do exactly what you are talking about.  Go to "Explore"=20 & "Industry Rankings".  You can then show performance = for each=20 of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, = 1, 2=20 years.  You can then sort the list by rank OR by rank = change.  If=20 you click on the industry, it will show you small charts of all the = stocks=20 in that industry.  You can add color volume to the charts and = do=20 technical analysis.  It is all free.   I am surprised = no one=20 mentions this on this group.
 
Joe
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 9:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am = looking=20 for.  IBD has a similar feature to this one in there = industry=20 rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the = rack).  I=20 really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long=20 term.  I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy = the=20 paper once a month and search for each industry and log where it = is at=20 this month.  That would be very time consuming-I appreciate = all your=20 help though.  I think Katherine had the right idea of what I = was=20 after-maybe she will incorporate it into her site.  I think = this=20 chart I am looking for would give a comprehensive picture of what=20 industries and what stocks are on the move - and in what = direction. Thanks=20 again nancy  p.s. on your urging I did join AAII.:-)
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 6:52=20 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion
 
Nancy, yes ..... you = overlooked=20 it.
 
WallStreetCity has that=20 feature. If you want to see industry movement click on Big = Chart. Big=20 Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9.95 per = month. There=20 is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up:
 

Each Monday = WallStreetCity=20 publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  = This=20 table is designed to show group rotations for the last two = months on a=20 week-by-week basis.  The table can help investors profit by = apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the = various=20 industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in = industry=20 group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups = showing=20 large negative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This=20 information is useful because it gives the investor advanced = notice of=20 future group movements. In addition to updating this chart every = Monday,=20 the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world = analytical=20 analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding of = this=20 very important group rotation table.

Gene

 

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not=20 Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking = for. I=20 found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but = not the=20 groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or = year-did I=20 miss it?? Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version
 
I sent out a complete list = of=20 industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller=20 version.....

sent earlier

I know this = might be=20 heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity?
The = industries -=20 names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... =

If you=20 click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of = that=20 industry.

When there, change the menu window from:=20 Banks   Graph=20 = Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you a = quick=20 snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the = group.
 
You can change Banks to = ALL INDUSTRY=20 GROUPS to see the entire list.
Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
= ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C2EA2C.27C77980-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CJ's email" Subject: [CANSLIM] Industry Groups Date: 15 Mar 2003 11:22:02 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2EAE5.1A660860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Another good site with industry group rankings is Clearstation (www.clearstation.com), which I believe is run by E-trade. The site also has some other useful information and insight as well. Christian -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe McCall Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:18 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Katherine, That is very good to know. Thank you. By the way, I am constantly amazed at the depth and quality of your replies on this message board. Tom's too. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Hi Joe, Prophet.net has come up in the past along with other free sites for industry charts/analysis such as BigCharts, WallStreetCity, etc., though not as frequently. (I'll be sure to add the reference to the list FAQ) If the goal is to identify movement in the industries or the components of the industry, I see any site which lists the information is useful. Just as a point of reference, I thought it would be worth noting the difference between the industry rank identification methodology at any of these free sites vs. the IBD/DGO or the QP2/HGS methodology: -Both the IBD/DGO and the free sites use the average price of the stocks within that industry to calculate the percentage change for the industry as a whole. For example, if there if one stock in the industry that is priced at $500 and 20 stocks priced at $1, the $500 stock is going to pull the weight for the "industry" as a whole, because it's price relative to all other stocks is very large by comparison. When averaged across 21 stocks, it creates great influence. Also, the greater the number of stocks within the industry, the more the movement of the leaders is masked by the averaging out across all stocks in the industry as a whole. The same is true in reverse, in which the action of one particular stock in an industry with very few members can make it appear as though the industry as a whole is "very healthy." We saw that recently when Williams' wireless spinoff yanked the whole industry up in the rankings. Every other stock in the industry was a technical nightmare. -Each of the free sites uses a "flat" change in price over some period of time to identify an industry as being 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. -IBD/DGO uses a weighted price movement of the average price over the last 2 quarters. I'd have to look back in my notes to verify the percentages are correct, but the price is weighted as follows: --Price change in current quarter * 70% plus --Price change over previous quarter * 30%. Industries are then ranked from "best" to "worst" and given a GroupRS from 99 to 1 (and a derivative A-D letter grade) and are also ranked from 1st to 197th in the IBD. That means that the IBD is placing the most weight on action in the most recent quarter with a nod to action in the previous quarter, so there is not a simple one on one comparison in rankings nor in ranking movement between the IBD approach and any of the free sites. That doesn't detract from their usefullness by any means, but it does mean that they are not substitutable for IBD rankings or the change in rankings over time. -From what I've seen, all of these resources plot the average *price* of the industry over time, but neither the free sites nor IBD/DGO chart the *rank* over time as Nancy was originally asking about. They do, however, show change in rank (the IBD only in the industry table in the printed edition), but do not show it visually. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe McCall Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:19 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion I haven't heard anyone mention Prophet.net. They do exactly what you are talking about. Go to "Explore" & "Industry Rankings". You can then show performance for each of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 months, 1, 2 years. You can then sort the list by rank OR by rank change. If you click on the industry, it will show you small charts of all the stocks in that industry. You can add color volume to the charts and do technical analysis. It is all free. I am surprised no one mentions this on this group. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: NANCY POLCARO To: canslim Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I am looking for. IBD has a similar feature to this one in there industry rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from the rack). I really am looking for 1 industries move every month for the long term. I can find it in IBD if I set up my own chart and buy the paper once a month and search for each industry and log where it is at this month. That would be very time consuming-I appreciate all your help though. I think Katherine had the right idea of what I was after-maybe she will incorporate it into her site. I think this chart I am looking for would give a comprehensive picture of what industries and what stocks are on the move - and in what direction. Thanks again nancy p.s. on your urging I did join AAII.:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:52 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion Nancy, yes ..... you overlooked it. WallStreetCity has that feature. If you want to see industry movement click on Big Chart. Big Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9.95 per month. There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their write-up: Each Monday WallStreetCity publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table. This table is designed to show group rotations for the last two months on a week-by-week basis. The table can help investors profit by apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of the various industry groups. Groups showing large positive moves in industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, while groups showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for that group. This information is useful because it gives the investor advanced notice of future group movements. In addition to updating this chart every Monday, the analysts at WallStreetCity will provide real-world analytical analysis of the Big Chart to give you a better understanding of this very important group rotation table. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: NANCY POLCARO To: canslim Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss it?? Thanks again nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version I sent out a complete list of industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller version..... sent earlier I know this might be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity? The industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but still.... If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take you to a chart of that industry. When there, change the menu window from: Banks Graph Industry to: Banks List of Stocks Will give you a quick snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within the group. You can change Banks to ALL INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list. Symbol Description Symbol Description .BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment regards, Gene ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2EAE5.1A660860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 all,
 
Another good = site with=20 industry group rankings is Clearstation (www.clearstation.com), which I=20 believe is run by E-trade.  The site also has some other = useful=20 information and insight as well. 
 
Christian
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe=20 McCall
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:18 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - = smallerversion

Katherine,
 
That is very good to know.  Thank = you. =20
 
By the way, I am constantly amazed at the = depth and=20 quality of your replies on this message board.  Tom's too. =20
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 = 1:03=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Why = Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

Hi=20 Joe,
 
Prophet.net has come=20 up in the past along with other free sites for industry = charts/analysis such=20 as BigCharts, WallStreetCity, etc., though not as frequently. (I'll = be sure=20 to add the reference to the list FAQ) If the goal is to = identify=20 movement in the industries or the components of the industry, I see = any site=20 which lists the information is useful.
 
Just as a = point of=20 reference, I thought it would be worth noting the difference between = the=20 industry rank identification methodology at any of these free sites = vs. the=20 IBD/DGO or the QP2/HGS methodology:
 
-Both the = IBD/DGO and=20 the free sites use the average price of the stocks within that = industry to=20 calculate the percentage change for the industry as a whole. For = example, if=20 there if one stock in the industry that is priced at $500 and 20 = stocks=20 priced at $1, the $500 stock is going to pull the weight for the = "industry"=20 as a whole, because it's price relative to all other stocks is very = large by=20 comparison. When averaged across 21 stocks, it creates great = influence.=20 Also, the greater the number of stocks within the industry, the more = the=20 movement of the leaders is masked by the averaging out across all = stocks in=20 the industry as a whole. The same is true in reverse, in which the = action of=20 one particular stock in an industry with very few members can make = it appear=20 as though the industry as a whole is "very healthy." We saw that = recently=20 when Williams' wireless spinoff yanked the whole industry up in the=20 rankings. Every other stock in the industry was a technical=20 nightmare.
 
-Each of = the free=20 sites uses a "flat" change in price over some period of time to = identify an=20 industry as being 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.
 
-IBD/DGO = uses a=20 weighted price movement of the average price over the last 2 = quarters. I'd=20 have to look back in my notes to verify the percentages are correct, = but the=20 price is weighted as follows:
  --Price change in = current quarter=20 * 70% plus
  --Price change over = previous=20 quarter * 30%.
Industries are then=20 ranked from "best" to "worst" and given a GroupRS from 99 to 1 (and = a=20 derivative A-D letter grade) and are also ranked from 1st to 197th = in the=20 IBD.
 
That = means that the=20 IBD is placing the most weight on action in the most recent quarter = with a=20 nod to action in the previous quarter, so there is not a simple one = on one=20 comparison in rankings nor in ranking movement between the IBD = approach and=20 any of the free sites. That doesn't detract from their usefullness = by any=20 means, but it does mean that they are not substitutable for IBD = rankings or=20 the change in rankings over time.
 
-From = what I've seen,=20 all of these resources plot the average *price* of the industry over = time,=20 but neither the free sites nor IBD/DGO chart the *rank* over time as = Nancy=20 was originally asking about. They do, however, show change in = rank (the=20 IBD only in the industry table in the printed edition), but do not = show it=20 visually.
 
Katherine
 
 -----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe=20 McCall
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:19 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - = smallerversion

I haven't heard anyone mention = Prophet.net. =20 They do exactly what you are talking about.  Go to "Explore"=20 & "Industry Rankings".  You can then show = performance for=20 each of the industries in 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 days, 1, 2, 3, 6 = months,=20 1, 2 years.  You can then sort the list by rank OR by rank=20 change.  If you click on the industry, it will show you small = charts=20 of all the stocks in that industry.  You can add color volume = to the=20 charts and do technical analysis.  It is all = free.   I am=20 surprised no one mentions this on this group.
 
Joe
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 9:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion

I may try it out gene but I still dont think it is what I = am=20 looking for.  IBD has a similar feature to this one in = there=20 industry rankings( I buy the paper a couple of times a week from = the=20 rack).  I really am looking for 1 industries move every = month for=20 the long term.  I can find it in IBD if I set up my own = chart and=20 buy the paper once a month and search for each industry and log = where it=20 is at this month.  That would be very time consuming-I = appreciate=20 all your help though.  I think Katherine had the right idea = of what=20 I was after-maybe she will incorporate it into her site.  I = think=20 this chart I am looking for would give a comprehensive picture = of what=20 industries and what stocks are on the move - and in what = direction.=20 Thanks again nancy  p.s. on your urging I did join = AAII.:-)
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 6:52 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Why Not=20 Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smallerversion
 
Nancy, yes ..... = you overlooked=20 it.
 
WallStreetCity has that=20 feature. If you want to see industry movement click on Big = Chart. Big=20 Chart is part of their premium service that costs $9.95 per = month.=20 There is a 30-day free trial. Here's their = write-up:
 

Each Monday = WallStreetCity=20 publishes a comprehensive industry group rotation table.  = This=20 table is designed to show group rotations for the last two = months on a=20 week-by-week basis.  The table can help investors profit = by=20 apprising them of the ebb and flow of capital in and out of = the=20 various industry groups. Groups showing large positive = moves in=20 industry group ranks indicate a move higher in the future, = while=20 groups showing large negative moves indicate a move lower for = that=20 group. This information is useful because it gives the = investor=20 advanced notice of future group movements. In addition to = updating=20 this chart every Monday, the analysts at WallStreetCity will = provide=20 real-world analytical analysis of the Big Chart to give you a = better=20 understanding of this very important group rotation=20 table.

Gene

 

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 NANCY=20 POLCARO
To: canslim =
Sent: Thursday, March = 13, 2003=20 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM] Why Not=20 Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller = version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking = for. I=20 found the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, = but not=20 the groups advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months = or=20 year-did I miss it?? Thanks again nancy
 
----- Original Message = -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, = March 13,=20 2003 11:20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Why Not=20 Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller = version
 
I sent out a complete = list of=20 industries but the file was too large. Here's a smaller=20 version.....

sent earlier

I know this = might=20 be heresy but why not use the free WallStreetCity?
The=20 industries - names/makeup - are different than IBD but = still....=20

If you click on .BAN Banks (below) it will take = you to a=20 chart of that industry.

When there, change the menu = window=20 from: Banks   Graph=20 = Industry
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks

Will give you = a quick=20 snapshot of how the group is doing and the stocks within = the=20 group.
 
You can change Banks to = ALL=20 INDUSTRY GROUPS to see the entire list.
Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment
<= /TABLE>
 
regards,
Gene
= ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2EAE5.1A660860-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CJ's email" Subject: [CANSLIM] Question regarding "test" symbols Date: 15 Mar 2003 12:26:16 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C2EAEE.1335BC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Today I was reviewing companies and I came across some a very unusual symbol called test, testa, testb, etc.... Can anyone explain what these are? I know this really doesn't apply to CANSLIM, but was just curious what these were. Thanks.... Christian ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C2EAEE.1335BC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Today I was=20 reviewing companies and I came across some a very unusual symbol=20 called test,=20 testa, testb, etc....
Can anyone = explain what=20 these are?  I know this really doesn't apply to CANSLIM, but was = just=20 curious what these were.
 
Thanks....
 
Christian
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C2EAEE.1335BC80-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Question regarding "test" symbols Date: 15 Mar 2003 13:22:35 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C2EAF5.F1849400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christian, I have never encountered that, but would guess they are dummy = symbols that the provider put in for various testing purposes, and = forgot to take out. Best way to get an answer is ask the vendor you were = using. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:26 PM Today I was reviewing companies and I came across some a very unusual = symbol called test, testa, testb, etc.... Can anyone explain what these are? I know this really doesn't apply to = CANSLIM, but was just curious what these were. Thanks.... Christian ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C2EAF5.F1849400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Christian, I have never encountered = that, but would=20 guess they are dummy symbols that the provider put in for various = testing=20 purposes, and forgot to take out. Best way to get an answer is ask the = vendor=20 you were using.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: CJ's = email=20
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:26 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Question regarding "test" = symbols

Today I was=20 reviewing companies and I came across some a very unusual symbol=20 called test,=20 testa, testb, etc....
Can anyone = explain what=20 these are?  I know this really doesn't apply to CANSLIM, but was = just=20 curious what these were.
 
Thanks....
 
Christian
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C2EAF5.F1849400-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 15 Mar 2003 14:15:28 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0115_01C2EAFD.54BA0DA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0116_01C2EAFD.54BA0DA0" ------=_NextPart_001_0116_01C2EAFD.54BA0DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ECONOMICS Wholesale inventories in January fell 0.2%, biggest drops were auto = inventories down 0.8% and machinery down 1.0%. Expectations were for a = rise of 0.3%. Concurrently, sales rose 1.0%, but mostly due to the 7.6% = increase in petroleum sales. The good news is that the stock to sales = inventory slightly declined to 1.21 months, meaning any pickup in real = sales means manufacturers must respond with increased production. Keep = that up, and maybe we might even see a few new jobs created and people = hired. In an interesting juxtaposition, overall business inventories rose in = January, up 0.2% following the revised gain of 0.7% in December. Sales = were also up by 1.2%, moving the stock to sales to 1.36 months. IMF slashed its economic forecasts for 2003, good news is the new number = is still not terrible. For the world, IMF expects a 3.3% growth this = year, down from 3.7% originally forecast, and increasing further to 4.2% = next year. For the USA, IMF sees 2.4% growth, revised down from 2.6%, = and up further to 3.9% in 2004. And for Europe, IMF expects now to see = 1.3% this year, down sharply from original forecasts of 2.3%, but still = improving to 2.4% in 2004. US Trade Deficit for January came in slightly better than expected at = $41.12 billion vs $42.8 billion expected, and down from the record = $44.88 billion in December. Still, it was the second largest deficit on = record. Imports responded to slower consumer sales, falling 2.0% despite = the weaker dollar and in spite of a huge increase in the price of = imported crude. And that same weak dollar undoubtedly helped exports = increase 1.6%. The still expanding economy in China represents nearly = one fourth of this deficit. New claims for unemployment continued to signal a weak labor market, = altho dipping slightly to 420,000 from 435,000 and in line with = expectations of 419K. The 4 week moving average increased to 419,750 = from 410K, while the continuing claims rose to 3.5 million from 3.48 = million. I learned this week that this last number does not include = another 800K receiving extended benefits. And, of course, it does not = count the nearly 4 million more workers that have either simply given up = looking for work, or have exhausted their benefits. Both Industrial Production, and Capacity Utilization, managed to beat = expectations for February, at plus 0.1% and 75.6% vs expectations of a = minus 0.1% and 75.5%. Greatest damage was done by motor vehicle = production, down 2.2%, pulling down the durable goods sector by 1.4%. = Consumer goods were down 0.3%. Rising were consumer energy output (up = 1.1%) thanks to higher energy prices and a cold winter, information = processing, and defense/space equipment (up 4.6% for the past year!!). PPI for February was still ugly in the headlines, but tame underneath. = Overall, it rose another 1% thanks again to higher energy prices (up = 7.4%, biggest gain since Oct 1990 right before the first Gulf War = period), but the Core rate excluding food and energy was actually down = 0.5%. In January the rates were up 1.6% and up 0.9%. So the core, for = two months, is only up 0.4% (non inflationary). Expectations were for a = rise of 0.7% and core unchanged. Helping lower the core rate was a 0.6% = drop in car prices. Continuing the recent decline in evidence of consumer confidence, the = preliminary Univ. of Michigan consumer sentiment index for March missed = expectations of a decline to 77.6, instead falling to 75.0 and the = lowest in over ten years. It was at 79.9 in February. Current conditions = component fell to 87.1 from 95.4. Expectations index fell to 67.2 from = 69.9. ------- "M" While the Thursday rally managed to move both the DOW 30, S&P500, and = NASDAQ back into positive territory for the week (and Naz for the year), = it was not enough for a positive week for the NYSE Composite, nor for = the S&P400 Mid Cap or the S&P600 Small Cap. Only the Russell 2000 = managed to eke out a small gain for the little guys. And in another = commentary on the state of the economy, the DJ Trans (more airlines on = the verge of bankruptcy, higher cost of fuel), DJ Utilities (increase in = cost of fuel that cannot immediately be passed on in rate hikes), and = NYSE Financials all closed the week with a loss. Brokerage firms look = particularly weak in the Financials group as two already warned (Schwab, = Ameritrade) of lower revenues due the low volume, which was pretty = predictable. And the wirehouses continue to fail to develop any = measurable business from M&A, IPOs, or even new bond deals, much less = volume trading, so expect weak results there as well. It's safe to say = that the rally, which at least survived Friday, was concentrated in the = largest, most liquid stocks of greatest interest to institutionals = needing to park some cash for the next two weeks. I suspect most did not = want to commit this early, possibly only days away from the start of war = with Iraq, but had little choice with quarter end approaching, oversold = conditions, and an apparent rally starting. Meanwhile, both gold and US = Treasuries continued to sell off, and the US dollar strengthened, all = bullish signals for the stock markets short term. Political posturing, = and uncertainty, regarding Iraq continue on Sunday as US, UK, and Spain = do a mini-summit in the Azores. Best guess right now? US/UK withdraws = their resolution, no vote, and mutual action within days against Iraq. = The Feds meet Tuesday, and are generally expected to cut rates at least = once or twice this year, so timing would favor a "surprise" rate cut = next Tuesday, or a pre-arranged "between meetings" cut, once war = actually commences. These two events (initiation of war with Iraq, rate = cut) could also put a "relief rally" into anyone's definition of the = timeline for a FT day. The question will be just how durable a = continuation of the rally may prove to be. Be careful, if we do get a FT = day, consider only partial investments, as I still do not see that many = decent CANSLIM stocks shaping up for a proper breakout. ------- JAPAN This past week saw the NIKKEI slip further, closing under 7,900 at one = point, although it rallied Friday to close just over the psychologically = important 8,000 at 8,002. The US Dollar strengthened, helping Japanese = exporters, and the NIKKEI may be able to sustain this level for another = two weeks to the closing of the financial year. But even at this level, = a 20 year low, more banks are likely to find their investment portfolios = further impaired, while the economy continues in deflation, and = non-performing loans only grow worse. Already insurance companies, that = pay pensions to elderly and retired Japanese, are struggling to maintain = these payments on a diminished portfolio and income production (Germany = has the same problem). In two weeks, banks and other institutions will = be forced to "mark to market" their portfolios. Banks, as well, will be = forced to a further commitment of bad loan write-offs. The govt has = already urged banks to sharply reduce their portfolio sales in order to = relieve pressure on the market. But if they comply, some risk failing = the capital requirements to operate as an int'l bank, and may even fail = the more liberal Japanese standards.=20 ------- WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20 This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It = is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's = "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with = constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from = (and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in = Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views = or opinions of my employer. I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, = and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout = scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, = focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all = industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast = for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no = due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM = patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases = (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR = (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my = personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any = stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest, whether = real money or virtual reality (VR). The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend was stable to = growing slightly. ACGL - weak looking c&h, forming the handle now APOL - continuing its long term LLUR pattern (look at weekly, too = volatile on the daily charts) APPB - c&h (more visible on a weekly chart) DF - high handle DNEX - base on base EPIQ - c&h, own (many times including now) and in my VR Fund ELTE - c&h, low price & ADV, in my VR Fund GIL - B6, but may be trending down IGT - several month long trading range IMO - c&h on the daily chart, LLUR into a saucer on the weeklies MRR - LLUR MVL - one of the few successful b/o from a c&h, worth studying TTC - B4 YHOO - c&h, volume has not dried up much Happy Hunting, Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley ------=_NextPart_001_0116_01C2EAFD.54BA0DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ECONOMICS
Wholesale inventories in January fell 0.2%, = biggest drops=20 were auto inventories down 0.8% and machinery down 1.0%. Expectations = were for a=20 rise of 0.3%. Concurrently, sales rose 1.0%, but mostly due to the 7.6% = increase=20 in petroleum sales. The good news is that the stock to sales inventory = slightly=20 declined to 1.21 months, meaning any pickup in real sales means = manufacturers=20 must respond with increased production. Keep that up, and maybe we might = even=20 see a few new jobs created and people hired.
 
In an interesting juxtaposition, overall = business=20 inventories rose in January, up 0.2% following the revised gain of 0.7% = in=20 December. Sales were also up by 1.2%, moving the stock to sales to 1.36=20 months.
 
IMF slashed its economic forecasts for 2003, = good news is=20 the new number is still not terrible. For the world, IMF expects a 3.3% = growth=20 this year, down from 3.7% originally forecast, and increasing further to = 4.2%=20 next year. For the USA, IMF sees 2.4% growth, revised down from 2.6%, = and up=20 further to 3.9% in 2004. And for Europe, IMF expects now to see 1.3% = this year,=20 down sharply from original forecasts of 2.3%, but still improving to = 2.4% in=20 2004.
 
US Trade Deficit for January came in slightly = better than=20 expected at $41.12 billion vs $42.8 billion expected, and down from the = record=20 $44.88 billion in December. Still, it was the second largest deficit on = record.=20 Imports responded to slower consumer sales, falling 2.0% despite the = weaker=20 dollar and in spite of a huge increase in the price of imported crude. = And that=20 same weak dollar undoubtedly helped exports increase 1.6%. The still = expanding=20 economy in China represents nearly one fourth of this = deficit.
 
New claims for unemployment continued to signal = a weak=20 labor market, altho dipping slightly to 420,000 from 435,000 and in line = with=20 expectations of 419K. The 4 week moving average increased to 419,750 = from 410K,=20 while the continuing claims rose to 3.5 million from 3.48 million. I = learned=20 this week that this last number does not include another 800K receiving = extended=20 benefits. And, of course, it does not count the nearly 4 million more = workers=20 that have either simply given up looking for work, or have exhausted = their=20 benefits.
 
Both Industrial Production, and Capacity = Utilization,=20 managed to beat expectations for February, at plus 0.1% and 75.6% vs=20 expectations of a minus 0.1% and 75.5%. Greatest damage was done by = motor=20 vehicle production, down 2.2%, pulling down the durable goods sector by = 1.4%.=20 Consumer goods were down 0.3%. Rising were consumer energy output (up = 1.1%)=20 thanks to higher energy prices and a cold winter, information = processing, and=20 defense/space equipment (up 4.6% for the past year!!).
 
PPI for February was still ugly in the = headlines, but tame=20 underneath. Overall, it rose another 1% thanks again to higher energy = prices (up=20 7.4%, biggest gain since Oct 1990 right before the first Gulf War = period), but=20 the Core rate excluding food and energy was actually down 0.5%. In = January the=20 rates were up 1.6% and up 0.9%. So the core, for two months, is only up = 0.4%=20 (non inflationary). Expectations were for a rise of 0.7% and core = unchanged.=20 Helping lower the core rate was a 0.6% drop in car prices.
 
Continuing the recent decline in evidence of = consumer=20 confidence, the preliminary Univ. of Michigan consumer sentiment = index for=20 March missed expectations of a decline to 77.6, instead falling to = 75.0 and=20 the lowest in over ten years. It was at 79.9 in February. Current = conditions=20 component fell to 87.1 from 95.4. Expectations index fell to 67.2 from = 69.9.
"M"
While the Thursday rally managed to move both = the DOW 30,=20 S&P500, and NASDAQ back into positive territory for the week = (and Naz=20 for the year), it was not enough for a positive week for the NYSE = Composite, nor=20 for the S&P400 Mid Cap or the S&P600 Small Cap. Only the Russell = 2000=20 managed to eke out a small gain for the little guys. And in another = commentary=20 on the state of the economy, the DJ Trans (more airlines on the verge of = bankruptcy, higher cost of fuel), DJ Utilities (increase in cost of fuel = that=20 cannot immediately be passed on in rate hikes), and NYSE Financials all = closed=20 the week with a loss. Brokerage firms look particularly weak in the = Financials=20 group as two already warned (Schwab, Ameritrade) of lower revenues due = the low=20 volume, which was pretty predictable. And the wirehouses continue to = fail to=20 develop any measurable business from M&A, IPOs, or even new bond = deals, much=20 less volume trading, so expect weak results there as well. It's safe to = say that=20 the rally, which at least survived Friday, was concentrated in the = largest, most=20 liquid stocks of greatest interest to institutionals needing to park = some cash=20 for the next two weeks. I suspect most did not want to commit this = early,=20 possibly only days away from the start of war with Iraq, but had little = choice=20 with quarter end approaching, oversold conditions, and an apparent rally = starting. Meanwhile, both gold and US Treasuries continued to sell off, = and the=20 US dollar strengthened, all bullish signals for the stock markets = short=20 term. Political posturing, and uncertainty, regarding Iraq continue on = Sunday as=20 US, UK, and Spain do a mini-summit in the Azores. Best guess right now? = US/UK=20 withdraws their resolution, no vote, and mutual action within days = against Iraq.=20 The Feds meet Tuesday, and are generally expected to cut rates at least = once or=20 twice this year, so timing would favor a "surprise" rate cut next = Tuesday, or a=20 pre-arranged "between meetings" cut, once war actually = commences. These two=20 events (initiation of war with Iraq, rate cut) could also put a = "relief=20 rally" into anyone's definition of the timeline for a FT day. The = question will=20 be just how durable a continuation of the rally may prove to be. Be = careful, if=20 we do get a FT day, consider only partial investments, as I still do not = see=20 that many decent CANSLIM stocks shaping up for a proper = breakout.
JAPAN
This past week saw the NIKKEI slip further, = closing under=20 7,900 at one point, although it rallied Friday to close just over the=20 psychologically important 8,000 at 8,002. The US Dollar strengthened, = helping=20 Japanese exporters, and the NIKKEI may be able to sustain this level for = another=20 two weeks to the closing of the financial year. But even at this level, = a 20=20 year low, more banks are likely to find their investment portfolios = further=20 impaired, while the economy continues in deflation, and non-performing = loans=20 only grow worse. Already insurance companies, that pay pensions to = elderly and=20 retired Japanese, are struggling to maintain these payments on a = diminished=20 portfolio and income production (Germany has the same problem). In two = weeks,=20 banks and other institutions will be forced to "mark to market" their=20 portfolios. Banks, as well, will be forced to a further commitment of = bad loan=20 write-offs. The govt has already urged banks to sharply reduce their = portfolio=20 sales in order to relieve pressure on the market. But if they comply, = some risk=20 failing the capital requirements to operate as an int'l bank, and may = even fail=20 the more liberal Japanese standards.=20
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST=20 WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any = stocks to=20 the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health = of=20 CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some = stocks=20 with constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from (and of = course doing=20 your own due diligence). I am employed = in=20 Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly=20 my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or = opinions of=20 my employer.
 
I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS = ranking of 80=20 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition = /=20 buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet = this general RS/EPS=20 criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I = consider all=20 industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal=20 investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings = forecast=20 for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due diligence, that is your = responsibility. I will=20 note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) = bottoms, or=20 flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also = note LLUR=20 (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely=20 are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due = size,=20 price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a = current=20 personal financial interest, whether real money or virtual reality=20 (VR).
 
The population of stocks I am reviewing this = weekend was=20 stable to growing=20 slightly.
 
ACGL - weak looking c&h, forming the handle=20 now
APOL - continuing its long term LLUR pattern = (look at=20 weekly, too volatile on the daily charts)
APPB - c&h (more visible on a weekly=20 chart)
DF - high handle
DNEX - base on base
EPIQ - c&h, own (many times including now) = and in my=20 VR Fund
ELTE - c&h, low price & ADV, in my VR=20 Fund
GIL - B6, but may be trending down
IGT - several month long trading = range
IMO - c&h on the daily chart, LLUR into a = saucer on=20 the weeklies
MRR - LLUR
MVL - one of the few successful b/o from a = c&h, worth=20 studying
TTC - B4
YHOO - c&h, volume has not dried up = much
 
Happy Hunting,
 
3D""
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: = TexWorley
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 15 Mar 2003 11:53:17 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2EAE9.77EA0460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in July when it = crossed above all its moving averages. Can I ask how long you have been = following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:18 AM ECONOMICS Wholesale inventories in January fell 0.2%, biggest drops were auto inven= tories down 0.8% and machinery down 1.0%. Expectations were for a rise of= 0.3%. Concurrently, sales rose 1.0%, but mostly due to the 7.6% increase= in petroleum sales. The good news is that the stock to sales inventory s= lightly declined to 1.21 months, meaning any pickup in real sales means m= anufacturers must respond with increased production. Keep that up, and ma= ybe we might even see a few new jobs created and people hired. In an interesting juxtaposition, overall business inventories rose in Jan= uary, up 0.2% following the revised gain of 0.7% in December. Sales were = also up by 1.2%, moving the stock to sales to 1.36 months. IMF slashed its economic forecasts for 2003, good news is the new number = is still not terrible. For the world, IMF expects a 3.3% growth this year= , down from 3.7% originally forecast, and increasing further to 4.2% next= year. For the USA, IMF sees 2.4% growth, revised down from 2.6%, and up = further to 3.9% in 2004. And for Europe, IMF expects now to see 1.3% this= year, down sharply from original forecasts of 2.3%, but still improving = to 2.4% in 2004. US Trade Deficit for January came in slightly better than expected at $41= .12 billion vs $42.8 billion expected, and down from the record $44.88 bi= llion in December. Still, it was the second largest deficit on record. Im= ports responded to slower consumer sales, falling 2.0% despite the weaker= dollar and in spite of a huge increase in the price of imported crude. A= nd that same weak dollar undoubtedly helped exports increase 1.6%. The st= ill expanding economy in China represents nearly one fourth of this defic= it. New claims for unemployment continued to signal a weak labor market, alth= o dipping slightly to 420,000 from 435,000 and in line with expectations = of 419K. The 4 week moving average increased to 419,750 from 410K, while = the continuing claims rose to 3.5 million from 3.48 million. I learned th= is week that this last number does not include another 800K receiving ext= ended benefits. And, of course, it does not count the nearly 4 million mo= re workers that have either simply given up looking for work, or have exh= austed their benefits. Both Industrial Production, and Capacity Utilization, managed to beat exp= ectations for February, at plus 0.1% and 75.6% vs expectations of a minus= 0.1% and 75.5%. Greatest damage was done by motor vehicle production, do= wn 2.2%, pulling down the durable goods sector by 1.4%. Consumer goods we= re down 0.3%. Rising were consumer energy output (up 1.1%) thanks to high= er energy prices and a cold winter, information processing, and defense/s= pace equipment (up 4.6% for the past year!!). PPI for February was still ugly in the headlines, but tame underneath. Ov= erall, it rose another 1% thanks again to higher energy prices (up 7.4%, = biggest gain since Oct 1990 right before the first Gulf War period), but = the Core rate excluding food and energy was actually down 0.5%. In Januar= y the rates were up 1.6% and up 0.9%. So the core, for two months, is onl= y up 0.4% (non inflationary). Expectations were for a rise of 0.7% and co= re unchanged. Helping lower the core rate was a 0.6% drop in car prices. Continuing the recent decline in evidence of consumer confidence, the pre= liminary Univ. of Michigan consumer sentiment index for March missed expe= ctations of a decline to 77.6, instead falling to 75.0 and the lowest in = over ten years. It was at 79.9 in February. Current conditions component = fell to 87.1 from 95.4. Expectations index fell to 67.2 from 69.9. =20 "M" While the Thursday rally managed to move both the DOW 30, S&P500, and NAS= DAQ back into positive territory for the week (and Naz for the year), it = was not enough for a positive week for the NYSE Composite, nor for the S&= P400 Mid Cap or the S&P600 Small Cap. Only the Russell 2000 managed to ek= e out a small gain for the little guys. And in another commentary on the = state of the economy, the DJ Trans (more airlines on the verge of bankrup= tcy, higher cost of fuel), DJ Utilities (increase in cost of fuel that ca= nnot immediately be passed on in rate hikes), and NYSE Financials all clo= sed the week with a loss. Brokerage firms look particularly weak in the F= inancials group as two already warned (Schwab, Ameritrade) of lower reven= ues due the low volume, which was pretty predictable. And the wirehouses = continue to fail to develop any measurable business from M&A, IPOs, or ev= en new bond deals, much less volume trading, so expect weak results there= as well. It's safe to say that the rally, which at least survived Friday= , was concentrated in the largest, most liquid stocks of greatest interes= t to institutionals needing to park some cash for the next two weeks. I s= uspect most did not want to commit this early, possibly only days away fr= om the start of war with Iraq, but had little choice with quarter end app= roaching, oversold conditions, and an apparent rally starting. Meanwhile,= both gold and US Treasuries continued to sell off, and the US dollar str= engthened, all bullish signals for the stock markets short term. Politica= l posturing, and uncertainty, regarding Iraq continue on Sunday as US, UK= , and Spain do a mini-summit in the Azores. Best guess right now? US/UK w= ithdraws their resolution, no vote, and mutual action within days against= Iraq. The Feds meet Tuesday, and are generally expected to cut rates at = least once or twice this year, so timing would favor a "surprise" rate cu= t next Tuesday, or a pre-arranged "between meetings" cut, once war actual= ly commences. These two events (initiation of war with Iraq, rate cut) co= uld also put a "relief rally" into anyone's definition of the timeline fo= r a FT day. The question will be just how durable a continuation of the r= ally may prove to be. Be careful, if we do get a FT day, consider only pa= rtial investments, as I still do not see that many decent CANSLIM stocks = shaping up for a proper breakout. JAPAN This past week saw the NIKKEI slip further, closing under 7,900 at one po= int, although it rallied Friday to close just over the psychologically im= portant 8,000 at 8,002. The US Dollar strengthened, helping Japanese expo= rters, and the NIKKEI may be able to sustain this level for another two w= eeks to the closing of the financial year. But even at this level, a 20 y= ear low, more banks are likely to find their investment portfolios furthe= r impaired, while the economy continues in deflation, and non-performing = loans only grow worse. Already insurance companies, that pay pensions to = elderly and retired Japanese, are struggling to maintain these payments o= n a diminished portfolio and income production (Germany has the same prob= lem). In two weeks, banks and other institutions will be forced to "mark = to market" their portfolios. Banks, as well, will be forced to a further = commitment of bad loan write-offs. The govt has already urged banks to sh= arply reduce their portfolio sales in order to relieve pressure on the ma= rket. But if they comply, some risk failing the capital requirements to o= perate as an int'l bank, and may even fail the more liberal Japanese stan= dards. =20 WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES =20 This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It = is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's "M= " and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with co= nstructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from (a= nd of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in Operations b= y a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is strictly my o= wn ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or opinions o= f my employer. I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, and= try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout scena= rio. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, focusin= g on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all industry gro= ups and prices, even those I will not consider for my personal investing.= I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast for this year and n= ext due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due diligence, that = is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c= &h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is t= he # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) even = though it is not exactly a CANSLIM pattern. Rarely are any of these stock= s of interest to me for my personal investing due size, price or industry= group. I will note any stocks in which I have a current personal financi= al interest, whether real money or virtual reality (VR). The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend was stable to growin= g slightly. ACGL - weak looking c&h, forming the handle now APOL - continuing its long term LLUR pattern (look at weekly, too volatil= e on the daily charts) APPB - c&h (more visible on a weekly chart) DF - high handle DNEX - base on base EPIQ - c&h, own (many times including now) and in my VR Fund ELTE - c&h, low price & ADV, in my VR Fund GIL - B6, but may be trending down IGT - several month long trading range IMO - c&h on the daily chart, LLUR into a saucer on the weeklies MRR - LLUR MVL - one of the few successful b/o from a c&h, worth studying TTC - B4 YHOO - c&h, volume has not dried up much Happy Hunting, Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2EAE9.77EA0460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom-I really l= ike MVL-I would have like to have found it in July when it crossed a= bove all its moving averages.  Can I ask how long you have been foll= owing it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:18= AM
To: CANSLIM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weev= iew
 
ECONOMICS
Whol= esale inventories in January fell 0.2%, biggest drops were auto inventori= es down 0.8% and machinery down 1.0%. Expectations were for a rise of 0.3= %. Concurrently, sales rose 1.0%, but mostly due to the 7.6% increase in = petroleum sales. The good news is that the stock to sales inventory sligh= tly declined to 1.21 months, meaning any pickup in real sales means manuf= acturers must respond with increased production. Keep that up, and maybe = we might even see a few new jobs created and people hired.
<= DIV> 
In an = interesting juxtaposition, overall business inventories rose in January, = up 0.2% following the revised gain of 0.7% in December. Sales were also u= p by 1.2%, moving the stock to sales to 1.36 months.
 
IMF slashed = its economic forecasts for 2003, good news is the new number is still not= terrible. For the world, IMF expects a 3.3% growth this year, down from = 3.7% originally forecast, and increasing further to 4.2% next year. For t= he USA, IMF sees 2.4% growth, revised down from 2.6%, and up further to 3= .9% in 2004. And for Europe, IMF expects now to see 1.3% this year, down = sharply from original forecasts of 2.3%, but still improving to 2.4% in 2= 004.
 
US Trade Deficit for January came in slightly better than ex= pected at $41.12 billion vs $42.8 billion expected, and down from the rec= ord $44.88 billion in December. Still, it was the second largest deficit = on record. Imports responded to slower consumer sales, falling 2.0% despi= te the weaker dollar and in spite of a huge increase in the price of impo= rted crude. And that same weak dollar undoubtedly helped exports increase= 1.6%. The still expanding economy in China represents nearly one fourth = of this deficit.
 
=
New claims for unemployment continued to signal = a weak labor market, altho dipping slightly to 420,000 from 435,000 and i= n line with expectations of 419K. The 4 week moving average increased to = 419,750 from 410K, while the continuing claims rose to 3.5 million from 3= .48 million. I learned this week that this last number does not include a= nother 800K receiving extended benefits. And, of course, it does not coun= t the nearly 4 million more workers that have either simply given up look= ing for work, or have exhausted their benefits.
 
Both Industrial P= roduction, and Capacity Utilization, managed to beat expectations for Feb= ruary, at plus 0.1% and 75.6% vs expectations of a minus 0.1% and 75.5%. = Greatest damage was done by motor vehicle production, down 2.2%, pulling = down the durable goods sector by 1.4%. Consumer goods were down 0.3%. Ris= ing were consumer energy output (up 1.1%) thanks to higher energy prices = and a cold winter, information processing, and defense/space equipment (u= p 4.6% for the past year!!).
=  
PPI for February was still ugly in t= he headlines, but tame underneath. Overall, it rose another 1% thanks aga= in to higher energy prices (up 7.4%, biggest gain since Oct 1990 right be= fore the first Gulf War period), but the Core rate excluding food and ene= rgy was actually down 0.5%. In January the rates were up 1.6% and up 0.9%= . So the core, for two months, is only up 0.4% (non inflationary). Expect= ations were for a rise of 0.7% and core unchanged. Helping lower the core= rate was a 0.6% drop in car prices.
 
Continuing the recent declin= e in evidence of consumer confidence, the preliminary Univ. of Michigan c= onsumer sentiment index for March missed expectations of a decl= ine to 77.6, instead falling to 75.0 and the lowest in over ten years. It= was at 79.9 in February. Current conditions component fell to 87.1 from = 95.4. Expectations index fell to 67.2 from 69.9.
"M"
While the Thursday rally managed to move both the DOW 30, S&P500= , and NASDAQ back into positive territory for the week (and Naz for = the year), it was not enough for a positive week for the NYSE Composite, = nor for the S&P400 Mid Cap or the S&P600 Small Cap. Only the Russ= ell 2000 managed to eke out a small gain for the little guys. And in anot= her commentary on the state of the economy, the DJ Trans (more airlines o= n the verge of bankruptcy, higher cost of fuel), DJ Utilities (increase i= n cost of fuel that cannot immediately be passed on in rate hikes), and N= YSE Financials all closed the week with a loss. Brokerage firms look part= icularly weak in the Financials group as two already warned (Schwab, Amer= itrade) of lower revenues due the low volume, which was pretty predictabl= e. And the wirehouses continue to fail to develop any measurable business= from M&A, IPOs, or even new bond deals, much less volume trading, so= expect weak results there as well. It's safe to say that the rally, whic= h at least survived Friday, was concentrated in the largest, most liquid = stocks of greatest interest to institutionals needing to park some cash f= or the next two weeks. I suspect most did not want to commit this early, = possibly only days away from the start of war with Iraq, but had little c= hoice with quarter end approaching, oversold conditions, and an apparent = rally starting. Meanwhile, both gold and US Treasuries continued to sell = off, and the US dollar strengthened, all bullish signals for the sto= ck markets short term. Political posturing, and uncertainty, regarding Ir= aq continue on Sunday as US, UK, and Spain do a mini-summit in the Azores= . Best guess right now? US/UK withdraws their resolution, no vote, and mu= tual action within days against Iraq. The Feds meet Tuesday, and are gene= rally expected to cut rates at least once or twice this year, so timing w= ould favor a "surprise" rate cut next Tuesday, or a pre-arranged "between= meetings" cut, once war actually commences. These two events (initi= ation of war with Iraq, rate cut) could also put a "relief rally" in= to anyone's definition of the timeline for a FT day. The question will be= just how durable a continuation of the rally may prove to be. Be careful= , if we do get a FT day, consider only partial investments, as I still do= not see that many decent CANSLIM stocks shaping up for a proper breakout= .
JAPAN
This past week saw the NIKKEI slip furthe= r, closing under 7,900 at one point, although it rallied Friday to close = just over the psychologically important 8,000 at 8,002. The US Dollar str= engthened, helping Japanese exporters, and the NIKKEI may be able to sust= ain this level for another two weeks to the closing of the financial year= . But even at this level, a 20 year low, more banks are likely to find th= eir investment portfolios further impaired, while the economy continues i= n deflation, and non-performing loans only grow worse. Already insurance = companies, that pay pensions to elderly and retired Japanese, are struggl= ing to maintain these payments on a diminished portfolio and income produ= ction (Germany has the same problem). In two weeks, banks and other insti= tutions will be forced to "mark to market" their portfolios. Banks, as we= ll, will be forced to a further commitment of bad loan write-offs. The go= vt has already urged banks to sharply reduce their portfolio sales in ord= er to relieve pressure on the market. But if they comply, some risk faili= ng the capital requirements to operate as an int'l bank, and may even fai= l the more liberal Japanese standards.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=
This list is in no way intended to recommend any sto= cks to the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the h= ealth of CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identif= y some stocks with constructive chart patterns that may be worth = WATCHING and learning from (and of = course doing your own due diligence). I= am employed in Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything pres= ented by me is strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to ref= lect the views or opinions of my employer.
 
I= typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, and = try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout scenar= io. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria= , focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all ind= ustry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my personal i= nvesting. I no longer will actively consider earnings fore= cast for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or t= riple) bottoms, or flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, I= MO). I will also note LLUR (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not= exactly a CANSLIM pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to= me for my personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will n= ote any stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest, whe= ther real money or virtual reality (VR).
 
The population of stocks= I am reviewing this weekend was stable to growing slightly.
=
<= /DIV>
 
ACGL - weak looking c&h, forming the handle now
APOL - continuing its long term LLUR = pattern (look at weekly, too volatile on the daily charts)
<= DIV>APPB - c&h (more visible on a weekly chart)
DF - high handle
DNEX - base on base
= EPIQ - c&h, own (many times including now) and in my VR Fund
ELTE - c&h, low price & ADV, in my V= R Fund
GIL - B6, but may be trending= down
IGT - several month long tradi= ng range
IMO - c&h on the daily = chart, LLUR into a saucer on the weeklies
MRR - LLUR
MVL - one of the fe= w successful b/o from a c&h, worth studying
TTC - B4
YHOO - c&h,= volume has not dried up much
 
Happy Hunting,
 
3D""
Tom Worley
stkguru@bel= lsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2EAE9.77EA0460-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Date: 15 Mar 2003 15:02:28 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0161_01C2EB03.E561DB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nancy, I don't follow it personally, but a quick check shows I mentioned in as = a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may have made some notes about it earlier. = I look at hundreds of stock charts every week where I have no interest = other than in a broader sense of what is going on in the markets, this = is just one of those. It showed up on a list I was reviewing of stocks with RS & EPS of 80 or = better that were also within 5% of their 12 month high. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in July when it = crossed above all its moving averages. Can I ask how long you have been = following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla ------=_NextPart_000_0161_01C2EB03.E561DB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Nancy,
 
I don't  follow it personally, but = a quick=20 check shows I mentioned in as a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may have = made=20 some notes about it earlier. I look at hundreds of stock charts every = week where=20 I have no interest other than in a broader sense of what is going on in = the=20 markets, this is just one of those.
 
It showed up on a list I was reviewing = of stocks=20 with RS & EPS of 80 or better that were also within 5% of their 12 = month=20 high.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in = July when=20 it crossed above all its moving averages.  Can I ask how long you = have been=20 following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla
------=_NextPart_000_0161_01C2EB03.E561DB20-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Date: 15 Mar 2003 12:10:55 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2EAEB.EE6B0380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks -my crossover date was wrong-looking at a 5 year chart but thanks = for the scan-nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:04 PM Hi Nancy, I don't follow it personally, but a quick check shows I mentioned in as = a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may have made some notes about it earlier. = I look at hundreds of stock charts every week where I have no interest ot= her than in a broader sense of what is going on in the markets, this is j= ust one of those. It showed up on a list I was reviewing of stocks with RS & EPS of 80 or b= etter that were also within 5% of their 12 month high. ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in July when it = crossed above all its moving averages. Can I ask how long you have been = following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2EAEB.EE6B0380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks -my crossover date was wrong-looki= ng at a 5 year chart but thanks for the scan-nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003= 12:04 PM
To: canslim@lists.= xmission.com
Subject: Re: [C= ANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL
 
Hi Nancy,
 
I don't = ; follow it personally, but a quick check shows I mentioned in as a c&= ;h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may have made some notes about it earlier. I l= ook at hundreds of stock charts every week where I have no interest other= than in a broader sense of what is going on in the markets, this is just= one of those.
 = ;
It showed up on a list I was rev= iewing of stocks with RS & EPS of 80 or better that were also within = 5% of their 12 month high.
=  
----- Original Messag= e -----
To: canslim
Sent= : Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CA= NSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

Tom-I re= ally like MVL-I would have like to have found it in July when it cro= ssed above all its moving averages.  Can I ask how long you have bee= n following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla
------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2EAEB.EE6B0380-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Date: 15 Mar 2003 15:16:41 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01C2EB05.E1FF1630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just keep in mind that stocks moving above their moving averages, by = itself, is not CANSLIM. When I was still a stock broker, I got the = notion (maybe someone has even incorporated it as a system) that buying = a stock exactly as its 50 dma crosses up thru the 200 dma was a perfect = buying point. Tried it with a few, and tracked it with many others. = Seemed to work for a while, but I suspect is something that is a factor = of market conditions at the time. May still work given the right combo = of conditions, but not something I consider reliable long term and in a = multitude of market conditions. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:10 PM Thanks -my crossover date was wrong-looking at a 5 year chart but thanks = for the scan-nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:04 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Hi Nancy, I don't follow it personally, but a quick check shows I mentioned in = as a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may have made some notes about it = earlier. I look at hundreds of stock charts every week where I have no = interest other than in a broader sense of what is going on in the = markets, this is just one of those. It showed up on a list I was reviewing of stocks with RS & EPS of 80 = or better that were also within 5% of their 12 month high. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in July when = it crossed above all its moving averages. Can I ask how long you have = been following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01C2EB05.E1FF1630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
just keep in mind that stocks moving = above their=20 moving averages, by itself, is not CANSLIM. When I was still a stock = broker, I=20 got the notion (maybe someone has even incorporated it as a system) that = buying=20 a stock exactly as its 50 dma crosses up thru the 200 dma was a perfect = buying=20 point. Tried it with a few, and tracked it with many others. Seemed to = work for=20 a while, but I suspect is something that is a factor of market = conditions at the=20 time. May still work given the right combo of conditions, but not = something I=20 consider reliable long term and in a multitude of market=20 conditions.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - = MVL

Thanks -my crossover date was wrong-looking at a 5 year chart but = thanks=20 for the scan-nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 = 12:04=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's = Weekend=20 Weeview - MVL
 
Hi Nancy,
 
I don't  follow it personally, = but a quick=20 check shows I mentioned in as a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may = have made=20 some notes about it earlier. I look at hundreds of stock charts every = week=20 where I have no interest other than in a broader sense of what is = going on in=20 the markets, this is just one of those.
 
It showed up on a list I was = reviewing of stocks=20 with RS & EPS of 80 or better that were also within 5% of their 12 = month=20 high.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend = Weeview

Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in = July=20 when it crossed above all its moving averages.  Can I ask how = long you=20 have been following it and how you found it?? Thanks=20 zilla
------=_NextPart_000_0173_01C2EB05.E1FF1630-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Date: 15 Mar 2003 12:22:41 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2EAED.92D86880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable right -thanks-could show possible strength along with other indicators-ma= ybe something to watch for other canslim qualities to appear ,right? App= reciate your help. nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:19 PM just keep in mind that stocks moving above their moving averages, by itse= lf, is not CANSLIM. When I was still a stock broker, I got the notion (ma= ybe someone has even incorporated it as a system) that buying a stock exa= ctly as its 50 dma crosses up thru the 200 dma was a perfect buying point= . Tried it with a few, and tracked it with many others. Seemed to work fo= r a while, but I suspect is something that is a factor of market conditio= ns at the time. May still work given the right combo of conditions, but n= ot something I consider reliable long term and in a multitude of market c= onditions. ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:10 PM Thanks -my crossover date was wrong-looking at a 5 year chart but thanks = for the scan-nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:04 PM Hi Nancy, I don't follow it personally, but a quick check shows I mentioned in as = a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may have made some notes about it earlier. = I look at hundreds of stock charts every week where I have no interest ot= her than in a broader sense of what is going on in the markets, this is j= ust one of those. It showed up on a list I was reviewing of stocks with RS & EPS of 80 or b= etter that were also within 5% of their 12 month high. ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in July when it = crossed above all its moving averages. Can I ask how long you have been = following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2EAED.92D86880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
right -thanks-could show possible strengt= h along with other indicators-maybe something to watch for other canslim = qualities to appear ,right?  Appreciate your help. nancy
=  
----- Original Message -----
From: To= m Worley
Sent: Saturday, Mar= ch 15, 2003 12:19 PM
To: can= slim@lists.xmission.com
Subject:= Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL
 
=
just keep in mind that stocks moving above their movin= g averages, by itself, is not CANSLIM. When I was still a stock broker, I= got the notion (maybe someone has even incorporated it as a system) that= buying a stock exactly as its 50 dma crosses up thru the 200 dma was a p= erfect buying point. Tried it with a few, and tracked it with many others= . Seemed to work for a while, but I suspect is something that is a factor= of market conditions at the time. May still work given the right combo o= f conditions, but not something I consider reliable long term and in a mu= ltitude of market conditions.
 
----- Original Message -----
To:= canslim
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:= 10 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview -= MVL

Thanks -my crossover date was wrong= -looking at a 5 year chart but thanks for the scan-nancy
 = ;
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Wor= ley
Sent: Saturday, March 15= , 2003 12:04 PM
=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's We= ekend Weeview - MVL
 
Hi Nancy,
&nbs= p;
I don't  follow it persona= lly, but a quick check shows I mentioned in as a c&h in my WWW on 11/= 2/02. I may have made some notes about it earlier. I look at hundreds of = stock charts every week where I have no interest other than in a broader = sense of what is going on in the markets, this is just one of those.
 
It showed up on a list I was reviewing of stocks wi= th RS & EPS of 80 or better that were also within 5% of their 12 mont= h high.
 
=
----- Original Message ----- <= DIV>To: canslim
Sent: Saturday, Mar= ch 15, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Wee= kend Weeview

Tom-I really like MVL-= I would have like to have found it in July when it crossed above all its = moving averages.  Can I ask how long you have been following it and = how you found it?? Thanks zilla
------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2EAED.92D86880-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Date: 15 Mar 2003 15:43:58 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0183_01C2EB09.B17B5C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when I saw the c&h pattern on 11/2/02, I was surprised to see it was = Marvel. Hadn't looked at it in several years. That's why when I do my = chart review, I look only at the chart pattern first, then if I see = something interesting do I look to see who it is, what they do, and = examine historical earnings and sales. Helps factor out my personal = bias.=20 In hindsight, it was a good one to watch. It did a false b/o 10/30/02 on = excellent volume but did not break the left edge of the cup. On = 11/21/02, it made it past the left edge of the lip but without volume, = and then slipped back by 12/11/02 on very light volume to where you = could have been stopped out. Finally, on 1/6/03, it broke out for good, = but volume was still only 1.5 ADV. It gave a second entry opportunity on = 2/13/03 after three straight days of above average selling volume. The = angle of this decline was such that anyone looking for short term gains = might have already sold during the drop. Since then, most days it has = been up, despite the dismal markets. And most days when volume went over = average (despite the low volume in the markets) it was also up, a = pattern that goes back to the formation of the right side of the cup. So while the c&h pattern looked pretty good to my eye on 11/2/02, it has = been anything but a stellar or textbook b/o. It has given false signals, = head fakes, and tested the resolve of any investor that bought with a = buy & hold philosophy. Given patience, and / or a VERY loose stop loss, = then eventually it has made money for its shareholders. The RS line has = consistently trended up during this period as well. Fundamentally, it = also returned to profitability in the March 2002 quarter, and has been = growing both sales and earnings since. So the fundies, for once, led the = technical indicators, and value shoppers might have even gotten in at = the bottom of the cup. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:22 PM right -thanks-could show possible strength along with other = indicators-maybe something to watch for other canslim qualities to = appear ,right? Appreciate your help. nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:19 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL just keep in mind that stocks moving above their moving averages, by = itself, is not CANSLIM. When I was still a stock broker, I got the = notion (maybe someone has even incorporated it as a system) that buying = a stock exactly as its 50 dma crosses up thru the 200 dma was a perfect = buying point. Tried it with a few, and tracked it with many others. = Seemed to work for a while, but I suspect is something that is a factor = of market conditions at the time. May still work given the right combo = of conditions, but not something I consider reliable long term and in a = multitude of market conditions. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Thanks -my crossover date was wrong-looking at a 5 year chart but = thanks for the scan-nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:04 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - MVL Hi Nancy, I don't follow it personally, but a quick check shows I mentioned = in as a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may have made some notes about it = earlier. I look at hundreds of stock charts every week where I have no = interest other than in a broader sense of what is going on in the = markets, this is just one of those. It showed up on a list I was reviewing of stocks with RS & EPS of 80 = or better that were also within 5% of their 12 month high. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it in July = when it crossed above all its moving averages. Can I ask how long you = have been following it and how you found it?? Thanks zilla ------=_NextPart_000_0183_01C2EB09.B17B5C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
when I saw the c&h pattern on = 11/2/02, I was=20 surprised to see it was Marvel. Hadn't looked at it in several years. = That's why=20 when I do my chart review, I look only at the chart pattern first, then = if I see=20 something interesting do I look to see who it is, what they do, and = examine=20 historical earnings and sales. Helps factor out my personal bias. =
 
In hindsight, it was a good one to = watch. It did a=20 false b/o 10/30/02 on excellent volume but did not break the left edge = of the=20 cup. On 11/21/02, it made it past the left edge of the lip but without=20 volume, and then slipped back by 12/11/02 on very light volume to = where you=20 could have been stopped out. Finally, on 1/6/03, it broke out for good, = but=20 volume was still only 1.5 ADV. It gave a second entry opportunity on = 2/13/03=20 after three straight days of above average selling volume. The angle of = this=20 decline was such that anyone looking for short term gains might have = already=20 sold during the drop. Since then, most days it has been up, despite the = dismal=20 markets. And most days when volume went over average (despite the low = volume in=20 the markets) it was also up, a pattern that goes back to the formation = of the=20 right side of the cup.
 
So while the c&h pattern looked = pretty good to=20 my eye on 11/2/02, it has been anything but a stellar or textbook b/o. = It has=20 given false signals, head fakes, and tested the resolve of any investor = that=20 bought with a buy & hold philosophy. Given patience, and / or a VERY = loose=20 stop loss, then eventually it has made money for its shareholders. The = RS line=20 has consistently trended up during this period as well. Fundamentally, = it also=20 returned to profitability in the March 2002 quarter, and has been = growing both=20 sales and earnings since. So the fundies, for once, led the technical=20 indicators, and value shoppers might have even gotten in at the bottom = of the=20 cup.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - = MVL

right -thanks-could show possible strength along with other=20 indicators-maybe something to watch for other canslim qualities to = appear=20 ,right?  Appreciate your help. nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 = 12:19=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's = Weekend=20 Weeview - MVL
 
just keep in mind that stocks moving = above their=20 moving averages, by itself, is not CANSLIM. When I was still a stock = broker, I=20 got the notion (maybe someone has even incorporated it as a system) = that=20 buying a stock exactly as its 50 dma crosses up thru the 200 dma was a = perfect=20 buying point. Tried it with a few, and tracked it with many others. = Seemed to=20 work for a while, but I suspect is something that is a factor of = market=20 conditions at the time. May still work given the right combo of = conditions,=20 but not something I consider reliable long term and in a multitude of = market=20 conditions.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview - = MVL

Thanks -my crossover date was wrong-looking at a 5 year chart but = thanks=20 for the scan-nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Saturday, March 15, = 2003 12:04=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Worley's Weekend=20 Weeview - MVL
 
Hi Nancy,
 
I don't  follow it personally, = but a quick=20 check shows I mentioned in as a c&h in my WWW on 11/2/02. I may = have=20 made some notes about it earlier. I look at hundreds of stock charts = every=20 week where I have no interest other than in a broader sense of what = is going=20 on in the markets, this is just one of those.
 
It showed up on a list I was = reviewing of=20 stocks with RS & EPS of 80 or better that were also within 5% of = their=20 12 month high.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend = Weeview

Tom-I really like MVL-I would have like to have found it = in July=20 when it crossed above all its moving averages.  Can I ask how = long you=20 have been following it and how you found it?? Thanks=20 zilla
------=_NextPart_000_0183_01C2EB09.B17B5C40-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerome Buckmelter" Subject: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 15 Mar 2003 21:54:59 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2EB3D.87DB64F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recognize that this post does not specifically deal with CANSLIM, but it could affect a lot of CANSLIM traders if it is true. Ameritrade Client Services staff, including a supervisor, told me this evening that a new (as of March 13) NASD interpretation of a Federal Reserve rule prevents investors from using proceeds from the sale of stock to purchase new stock until the sale settles. That means three days!! I spent twenty minutes discussing with the supervisor the lunacy of an interpretation such as this, but he insisted that it was true. He says it comes from the NASD, not Ameritrade. That means one cannot be fully invested - during a bull market, of course - and sell a slower performing stock in favor of one that is breaking out on the same day. You will need to wait three days until the sale settled before buying the break out!! I checked the NASD website and couldn't find any information on this, which makes me suspicious. I also talked to two different people at Schwab, and they never heard of this ruling. The Ameritrade people say that they are already complying with this new ruling, and that other brokers will need to do the same soon. Has anyone else heard of this? What can be done? Any suggestions or comments? ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2EB3D.87DB64F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I recognize that this post does not specifically deal = with CANSLIM, but it could affect a lot of CANSLIM traders if it is true. =  Ameritrade Client Services = staff, including a supervisor, told me this evening that a new (as of March 13) = NASD interpretation of a Federal Reserve rule prevents investors from using = proceeds from the sale of stock to purchase new stock until the sale = settles.  That means three days!!  I spent twenty minutes = discussing with the supervisor the lunacy of an interpretation such as this, but he = insisted that it was true.  He says = it comes from the NASD, not Ameritrade.  = That means one cannot be fully invested – during a bull market, of = course – and sell a slower performing stock in favor of one that is breaking out = on the same day.  You will need to = wait three days until the sale settled before buying the break out!!  I checked the NASD website and = couldn’t find any information on this, which makes me suspicious.  I also talked to two different = people at Schwab, and they never heard of this ruling.  The Ameritrade people say that = they are already complying with this new ruling, and that other brokers will need = to do the same soon.  Has anyone else = heard of this?  What can be = done?  Any suggestions or = comments?           

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2EB3D.87DB64F0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 16 Mar 2003 05:43:29 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2EB7E.F900C8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome, I am not aware of such a new rule, but I have heard this claim = before on occasion over the years. The rule is, you must have settled = funds on settlement day to pay for a purchase. How those funds get there = is of no concern. If sufficient funds are available on settlement day as = a result of a sale, the sale was done the same day as the purchase, AND = the settlement cycle is the same for both the buy and the sale, then you = are covered. I have heard of other brokers trying to apply this rule to trades done = in a cash acct. With business so slow these days, I don't know why = anyone would do so.=20 I would suggest calling Ameritrade and try to get a different = supervisor. If they say the same thing, ask them to email you this new = rule and send it to me / the group to review. My suspicion is that this = is an Ameritrade internal policy at best, and an employee's ignorance = possibly as well. If it is an Ameritrade policy, then you may be able to resolve it just = by doing your trades on margin. Then again, maybe I have not kept up with the rules and need to be = educated, but I don't see NASD enacting such a rule, especially at a = time like this when business is slow. But I took a look at "What's New" = at the NASDR site, and saw no mention of this. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 12:54 AM I recognize that this post does not specifically deal with CANSLIM, but = it could affect a lot of CANSLIM traders if it is true. Ameritrade = Client Services staff, including a supervisor, told me this evening that = a new (as of March 13) NASD interpretation of a Federal Reserve rule = prevents investors from using proceeds from the sale of stock to = purchase new stock until the sale settles. That means three days!! I = spent twenty minutes discussing with the supervisor the lunacy of an = interpretation such as this, but he insisted that it was true. He says = it comes from the NASD, not Ameritrade. That means one cannot be fully = invested - during a bull market, of course - and sell a slower = performing stock in favor of one that is breaking out on the same day. = You will need to wait three days until the sale settled before buying = the break out!! I checked the NASD website and couldn't find any = information on this, which makes me suspicious. I also talked to two = different people at Schwab, and they never heard of this ruling. The = Ameritrade people say that they are already complying with this new = ruling, and that other brokers will need to do the same soon. Has = anyone else heard of this? What can be done? Any suggestions or = comments? =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2EB7E.F900C8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jerome, I am not aware of such a new rule, but I = have=20 heard this claim before on occasion over the years. The rule is, you = must have=20 settled funds on settlement day to pay for a purchase. How those funds = get there=20 is of no concern. If sufficient funds are available on settlement day as = a=20 result of a sale, the sale was done the same day as the purchase, AND = the=20 settlement cycle is the same for both the buy and the sale, then you are = covered.
 
I have heard of other brokers trying to apply = this rule to=20 trades done in a cash acct. With business so slow these days, I don't = know why=20 anyone would do so.
 
I would suggest calling Ameritrade and try to = get a=20 different supervisor. If they say the same thing, ask them to email you = this new=20 rule and send it to me / the group to review. My suspicion is that this = is an=20 Ameritrade internal policy at best, and an employee's ignorance possibly = as=20 well.
 
If it is an Ameritrade policy, then you may be = able to=20 resolve it just by doing your trades on margin.
 
Then again, maybe I have not kept up with the = rules and=20 need to be educated, but I don't see NASD enacting such a rule, = especially at a=20 time like this when business is slow. But I took a look at "What's New" = at the=20 NASDR site, and saw no mention of this.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jerome=20 Buckmelter
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading = restrictions?

I recognize that this post = does not=20 specifically deal with CANSLIM, but it could affect a lot of CANSLIM = traders if=20 it is true.  Ameritrade = Client=20 Services staff, including a supervisor, told me this evening that a new = (as of=20 March 13) NASD interpretation of a Federal Reserve rule prevents = investors from=20 using proceeds from the sale of stock to purchase new stock until the = sale=20 settles.  That means three = days!!  I spent twenty = minutes=20 discussing with the supervisor the lunacy of an interpretation such as = this, but=20 he insisted that it was true.  = He=20 says it comes from the NASD, not Ameritrade.  That means one cannot be fully = invested=20 =96 during a bull market, of course =96 and sell a slower performing = stock in favor=20 of one that is breaking out on the same day.  You will need to wait three = days until=20 the sale settled before buying the break out!!  I checked the NASD website and = couldn=92t=20 find any information on this, which makes me suspicious.  I also talked to two different = people at=20 Schwab, and they never heard of this ruling.  The Ameritrade people say that = they are=20 already complying with this new ruling, and that other brokers will need = to do=20 the same soon.  Has anyone = else=20 heard of this?  What can = be=20 done?  Any suggestions or=20 comments?           

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Hey

 

 

Which mailing lists = are out there besides this message board, canslim.net Breakout Reports which = provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM = stocks?

 

 

 

Greetings

 

 

 

S=E9bastien<= /span>

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Hi Sebastien,
 
Search for the term "CANSLIM" at = the=20 following and you'll find a  slew of free and paid = resources:
 
http://www.google.com
http://groups.yahoo.com
=
http://www.motleyfool.com (search = the=20 discussion boards)
 
Katherine
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = S=E9bastien=20 Derks
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:26 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Mailing=20 lists

 

Hey

 

 

Which=20 mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net = Breakout=20 Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM=20 stocks?

 

 

 

Greetings

 

 

 

S=E9bastien

= ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2EB88.2FB9F1B0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerome Buckmelter" Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Date: 16 Mar 2003 13:20:58 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2EBBE.FB2A4440 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2EBBE.FB2CB540" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2EBBE.FB2CB540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Worley, Thank you for your input. I followed your advice, and called Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule. It is attached. This is a "canned" response: It says, "Our records indicate that you have recently sold securities in your account prior to making full cash payment." even though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never placed any orders with them yet. In contrast to my earlier discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from the NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment. This "new rule" is further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a margin account which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for IRA's and custodial accounts. This could be devastating for us who are using the canslim system to build our retirement account. We will be forced to keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles. I guess the main questions are: is this just an Ameritrade internal policy as you suspected? Will other brokerages follow suit? What do you -- and the other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction? Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. Jerome ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2EBBE.FB2CB540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Tom Worley,

Thank you for your input.  I followed your advice, and = called Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule.  It is attached.  This is a “canned” = response: It says, “Our records indicate that you = have recently sold securities in your account prior to making full cash = payment…” even though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never placed any = orders with them yet.   In = contrast to my earlier discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear = to be from the NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment.  This = “new rule” is further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a margin = account which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for IRA’s and = custodial accounts.  This could be = devastating for us who are using the canslim system to = build our retirement account.  We = will be forced to keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull = market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles.  I guess the main questions = are:  is this just an Ameritrade = internal policy as you suspected?   Will other brokerages follow suit?  = What do you -- and the other canslimers -- think = should be done about this onerous restriction?  Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. =  Jerome    

------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2EBBE.FB2CB540-- ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2EBBE.FB2A4440 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Cash Account Restrictions (KMM13020801V43972L0KM).txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Cash Account Restrictions (KMM13020801V43972L0KM).txt" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:58 AM Dear Valued Client:=20 We are contacting you to explain how recent regulatory guidance we = received related to cash accounts will impact your trading activity.=20 RESTRICTIONS IN CASH ACCOUNTS Under applicable interpretations issued by the staff of the Board of = Governors of the Federal Reserve System, cash account clients are = prohibited from making a practice of selling securities without having = paid for their purchase with "cash" available in their account. "Cash" = includes existing cash in the account, the proceeds of settled sales of = fully-paid for securities, and additional cash deposits. Proceeds of a = sale may not be included as "cash" before the settlement date - which is = generally three business days.=20 WHAT DO THESE RESTRICTIONS MEAN FOR YOU? Our records indicate that you have recently sold securities in your = account prior to making full cash payment for those securities as = defined above. As a result, effective immediately, a restriction has = been placed on your Ameritrade account. This restriction limits your = purchases to the "cash" in your account at the time of your trade. In = addition, all opening transactions will be reviewed to determine if = settled cash is available for the trade.=20 If you choose to continue trading on funds prior to settlement, = depending on circumstance, you may:=20 Add funds to your cash account; or=20 Convert to a margin account. An Account Modification form is needed in = order to add margin approval to your account. (Certain account types are = not allowed margin - including IRA and Custodial Accounts.)=20 If you have any questions, please e-mail us at = clientservices@ameritrade.com or contact us at 800-669-3900.=20 We appreciate your patience and recognize that this restriction may = cause you some inconvenience. We will do our best to serve you during = this time - and thank you for your continued business.=20 Sincerely, Sherri Adkins Ameritrade Client Services * Additional restrictions may apply. Margin trading is not suitable for = all investors. Please consult the Ameritrade Margin Handbook for = additional details.=20 Ameritrade, Inc., Member NASD/SIPC Ameritrade and Ameritrade logo are = trademarks or registered trademarks of Ameritrade IP Company, Inc. Used = with permission. =A9 2003 Ameritrade IP Company. All rights reserved. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2EBBE.FB2A4440-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Date: 16 Mar 2003 18:17:57 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2EBE8.5F0EA310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome, there is absolutely nothing new about the rule explained in the = attachment. What is confusing is your statement that you have yet to = place a single transaction with them. Possibly this is simply a = "boilerplate" notice they send every new client, however it indicates = that your acct is being placed on a 90 day restriction because of this. = Obviously, if you have not done a sale, then this notice is in error, = and you need to tell Ameritrade this. All this notice pertains to is selling a stock prior to it being paid = for in full. Example: on Monday you purchase 100 shares of XYZ, which = will settle Thursday (normal 3 day settlement). On Wednesday, prior to = depositing funds for the purchase, a buyout is announced, stock shoots = up, and you sell. So far, you are ok (as long as you didn't have insider = info). Wednesday night, the end of day processing will show the computer = that you sold before you paid (you were bringing a check in on = settlement, Thursday). Even though you sold for a profit, you still must = deliver funds to cover the cost of the purchase in its entirety no later = than Thursday. Assuming you do this, you are ok, as then you have = settled funds available on Thursday for the settlement of the buy. On = the following Monday, the proceeds from the sale would settle, and you = would be then able to withdraw those funds.=20 Had you wished to reinvest the proceeds from the sale on that Wednesday, = you could have done that as well, since again the settlement date for = that new purchase would not be until the following Monday, same day that = the sale would settle. Because a margin account can borrow against the value of the portfolio, = it is handled differently, but the rules there are even more = complicated. You don't need to use margin to avoid this problem, just = make sure that you have sufficient "settled" funds on hand on settlement = date for any purchase. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:20 PM =20 Tom Worley, Thank you for your input. I followed your advice, and called Ameritrade = requesting that they email me the new rule. It is attached. This is a = "canned" response: It says, "Our records indicate that you have recently = sold securities in your account prior to making full cash payment." even = though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never placed any orders = with them yet. In contrast to my earlier discussions with Ameritrade, = this new ruling does not appear to be from the NASD as they claimed, but = rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve = System as they now claim per the attachment. This "new rule" is further = disturbing since the only alternative is to have a margin account which = is not, according to the attachment, permitted for IRA's and custodial = accounts. This could be devastating for us who are using the canslim = system to build our retirement account. We will be forced to keep a = large portion of our account in cash during a bull market in = anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and miss every = breakout by three days, after the sale settles. I guess the main = questions are: is this just an Ameritrade internal policy as you = suspected? Will other brokerages follow suit? What do you -- and the = other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction? = Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. Jerome =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2EBE8.5F0EA310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jerome, there is absolutely nothing new about = the rule=20 explained in the attachment. What is confusing is your statement that = you have=20 yet to place a single transaction with them. Possibly this is simply a=20 "boilerplate" notice they send every new client, however it indicates = that your=20 acct is being placed on a 90 day restriction because of this. Obviously, = if you=20 have not done a sale, then this notice is in error, and you need to tell = Ameritrade this.
 
All this notice pertains to is selling a stock = prior to it=20 being paid for in full. Example: on Monday you purchase 100 shares of = XYZ, which=20 will settle Thursday (normal 3 day settlement). On Wednesday, prior to=20 depositing funds for the purchase, a buyout is announced, stock shoots = up, and=20 you sell. So far, you are ok (as long as you didn't have insider=20 info). Wednesday night, the end of day processing will show the = computer=20 that you sold before you paid (you were bringing a check in on = settlement,=20 Thursday). Even though you sold for a profit, you still must deliver = funds to=20 cover the cost of the purchase in its entirety no later than Thursday. = Assuming=20 you do this, you are ok, as then you have settled funds available on = Thursday=20 for the settlement of the buy. On the following Monday, the proceeds = from the=20 sale would settle, and you would be then able to withdraw those funds.=20
 
Had you wished to reinvest the proceeds from the = sale on=20 that Wednesday, you could have done that as well, since again the = settlement=20 date for that new purchase would not be until the following Monday, same = day=20 that the sale would settle.
 
Because a margin account can borrow against the = value of=20 the portfolio, it is handled differently, but the rules there are even = more=20 complicated. You don't need to use margin to avoid this problem, just = make sure=20 that you have sufficient "settled" funds on hand on settlement date for = any=20 purchase.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jerome=20 Buckmelter
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions

 

Tom=20 Worley,

Thank you for your = input.  I followed your advice, and = called=20 Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule.  It is attached.  This is a =93canned=94 = response: It=20 says, =93Our records indicate that you have = recently sold=20 securities in your account prior to making full cash payment=85=94 even = though I am=20 a new Ameritrade customer and have never placed any orders with them = yet.   In contrast to my earlier = discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from = the NASD=20 as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of = the=20 Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment.  This =93new rule=94 is further = disturbing=20 since the only alternative is to have a margin account which is not, = according=20 to the attachment, permitted for IRA=92s and custodial accounts.  This could be devastating for = us who are=20 using the canslim system to build our = retirement=20 account.  We will be = forced to keep=20 a large portion of our account in cash during a bull market in = anticipation of a=20 break out or we could be fully invested and miss every breakout by three = days,=20 after the sale settles.  I = guess the=20 main questions are:  is = this just an=20 Ameritrade internal policy as you suspected?   Will other brokerages = follow=20 suit?  What do you -- and = the other=20 canslimers -- think should be done about = this onerous=20 restriction?  Again, Tom, thanks for all your help.  Jerome    

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I am hearing some concerns regarding accounting for the companies Q3 FY 2001 charge and subsequent sales of reserved inventory.

I have no additional info on this. Just wanted to pass it along.

Eric


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Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online --0-1986272333-1047920634=:81389-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Question regarding "test" symbols Date: 17 Mar 2003 11:07:54 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0136_01C2EC75.75E64830 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0137_01C2EC75.75E64830" ------=_NextPart_001_0137_01C2EC75.75E64830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't see an answer to this - but Test, testa etc is what we used when learning the Spear Leeds Redi trading platform. I am not sure if it is SLK's own or if more online trading platforms create a "market" to train newcomers. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of CJ's email Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:26 PM Today I was reviewing companies and I came across some a very unusual symbol called test, testa, testb, etc.... Can anyone explain what these are? I know this really doesn't apply to CANSLIM, but was just curious what these were. Thanks.... Christian ------=_NextPart_001_0137_01C2EC75.75E64830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I didn’t see an answer to = this – but Test, testa etc is what we used when learning the Spear Leeds Redi = trading platform.  I am not sure if it is SLK’s own or if more online = trading platforms create a “market” to train = newcomers.

 

 

Ed Gjertsen II

ed@macktracks.com

 

 

Confidentiality Notice: This = e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged = information.  Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is = prohibited.  If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply = e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of CJ's email
Sent: Saturday, March 15, = 2003 12:26 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Question regarding "test" symbols

 

Today I was reviewing companies and I came across some a very unusual symbol = called test, testa, testb, etc....

Can anyone explain what = these are?  I know this really doesn't apply to CANSLIM, but was just = curious what these were.

 

Thanks....

 

Christian

 

 

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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "genr" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Date: 17 Mar 2003 12:16:18 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C2EC7F.03716500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome, I just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for = non-margin accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid = (interest) for lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account = if additional funds are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts = require money to be in the account prior to an order (no margin). Can't speak for any other brokers, Gene =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerome Buckmelter=20 To: 'CANSLIM LIST'=20 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions =20 Tom Worley, Thank you for your input. I followed your advice, and called = Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule. It is attached. = This is a "canned" response: It says, "Our records indicate that you = have recently sold securities in your account prior to making full cash = payment." even though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never = placed any orders with them yet. In contrast to my earlier discussions = with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from the NASD as = they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the = Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment. This "new = rule" is further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a = margin account which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for = IRA's and custodial accounts. This could be devastating for us who are = using the canslim system to build our retirement account. We will be = forced to keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull = market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and = miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles. I guess the = main questions are: is this just an Ameritrade internal policy as you = suspected? Will other brokerages follow suit? What do you -- and the = other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction? = Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. Jerome =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C2EC7F.03716500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jerome, I just checked with Schwab and = they have=20 the same procedures for non-margin accounts. I believe that = brokers just=20 want to get paid (interest) for lending you (us) money and suggest using = a=20 margin account if additional funds are required to make a trade. The IRA = accounts require money to be in the account prior to an = order (no=20 margin).
 
Can't speak for any other = brokers,
Gene
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jerome=20 Buckmelter
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 = 3:20=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading=20 restrictions

 

Tom=20 Worley,

Thank you for your = input.  I followed your advice, and = called=20 Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule.  It is attached.  This is a =93canned=94 = response: It=20 says, =93Our records indicate that you have = recently=20 sold securities in your account prior to making full cash = payment=85=94 even=20 though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never placed any orders = with=20 them yet.   In = contrast to my=20 earlier discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear = to be=20 from the NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board = of=20 Governors of the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the=20 attachment.  This =93new = rule=94 is=20 further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a margin = account=20 which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for IRA=92s and = custodial=20 accounts.  This could be = devastating for us who are using the canslim system=20 to build our retirement account. =20 We will be forced to keep a large portion of our account in = cash during=20 a bull market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully = invested and=20 miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles.  I guess the main questions = are:  is this just an Ameritrade = internal=20 policy as you suspected?   Will other brokerages = follow=20 suit?  What do you -- = and the=20 other canslimers -- think should be done = about this=20 onerous restriction?  = Again, Tom, thanks for all your help.  Jerome    

= ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C2EC7F.03716500-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] institutional support Date: 17 Mar 2003 10:39:42 -0600 Hello all, Does anyone know of the best way to learn the amount of institutional support a given stock has? Meaning, the number of mutual funds that own a particular issue? I have seen numerous IBD articles that talk about how a certain stock used to be owned by 12 funds last year, but now 34 have shares. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harold Josephson Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 17 Mar 2003 13:13:44 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C2EC87.0C7E7770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your thoughts about VectorVest industry rankings? What is QP2/HGS? Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:02 PM Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C2EC87.0C7E7770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Your thoughts = about VectorVest industry = rankings?

 

What is = QP2/HGS?

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 12:02 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = Nancy,

 

The electronic version of = the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in = form.

 

In order to see the = industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry group feature on top of that (an additional = $200/yr).

 

The most cost effective = way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they = provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to = be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site = (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools = which will be available soon as an additional feature within our = core product offering.

 

Beyond that, you're = somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the = %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and = how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, = money and analysis tools.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Katherine<= /p>

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 1:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Katherine , would you = have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just = review it on your computer?  I got the book once-I think at the time it = was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new = 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from = another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day = that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is = finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly = basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then = another month 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an easy way to find and = organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and = you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last = month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view = of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks = for any help  nancy

 

=

----- Original Message = -----

From: Katherine Malm

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM

To:<= /font> canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

That's exactly it, Tom. = The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version = each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do = it!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 11:20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format<= /p>

since it's not a = subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download = went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try = again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks = rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year.<= /p>

 

What a = gimmick!!!<= /p>

 

----- Original Message = -----

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM

Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = All,

 

The subject of industry = group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd = forward this new reference.

 

IBD has finally provided = an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates = are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the = printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.

 

 

Still, it's a nice = addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in = industry groupings as they had last week.

 

Katherine

 

PS In case you missed the = changes to the industry groups, they are:

Where there is a = combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to = each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into = one.

 

Symbol Description Symbol Description
.BAN Banks .OFU Home/office/equipment

Dropped DGO = Industries

New DGO = Industries

Computer-Optical = Recogtn

 

Elec-Control = Instruments

 

Elec-Laser = Sys/Component

 

 

 

 

Comml Svcs-Consulting  

 

Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =

 

Media-Diversified      

 

Retail-Leisure Products =

 

Telecom-Wireless Equip 

 

Elec-Contract Mfg      

 

 

Electrical-Connectors  

Elec-Component/Connectr =

Elec-Components       &nbs= p;

 

 

 

Fiber Optic Components 

Telecom-Fiber Optics   

Fiber Optic Networks   

 

 

 

Elec-Measrng = Instruments

Elec-Scientific/Msrng  

Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt

 

 

 

Computer-Services      

Computer-Tech Services 

Computer-Graphics      

Computer Sftwr-Design  

Computer-Memory Devices =

Computer-Data Storage  

Textile-Apparel Mfg    

Apparel-Clothing Mfg   

Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts

Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts

Retail-Apparel/Shoe    

Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =

Retail-Misc/Diversified =

Retail-Miscellaneous   

Shoes & Rel Apparel    

Retail-Clothing/Shoe   

Internet-Security/Sltns =

Internet-Network Sltns 

Household-Audio/Video  

Household-Consumer Elec =

 

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Please tell me how to access the = current Canslim Hunting List.

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: = Sunday, March 16, = 2003 4:49 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

 

Hi Sebastien,

 

Search for the term "CANSLIM" at the following and you'll = find a  slew of free and paid resources:

 

http://www.motleyfool.com = (search the discussion boards)

 

Katherine

 

 

 

-----O= riginal Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of S=E9bastien Derks
Sent: Sunday, March 16, = 2003 6:26 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

&n= bsp;

Hey

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

Whic= h mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net = Breakout Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM = stocks?

 

 

 

Gree= tings

 

 

 

S=E9= bastien

------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C2EC92.5D421F30-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] institutional support Date: 17 Mar 2003 18:02:27 -0600 Hi Mike, Try: http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp?Symbol=S BUX Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:40 AM Hello all, Does anyone know of the best way to learn the amount of institutional support a given stock has? Meaning, the number of mutual funds that own a particular issue? I have seen numerous IBD articles that talk about how a certain stock used to be owned by 12 funds last year, but now 34 have shares. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Mailing lists Date: 17 Mar 2003 18:10:38 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2ECB0.834658E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Harold, The latest list was posted 2/21 and you'll find it at: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.zip (zipped version for download) http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.xls (loads in your browser, but s-l-o-w) Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:35 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Mailing lists Please tell me how to access the current Canslim Hunting List. Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:49 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Mailing lists Hi Sebastien, Search for the term "CANSLIM" at the following and you'll find a slew of free and paid resources: http://www.google.com http://groups.yahoo.com http://www.motleyfool.com (search the discussion boards) Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sébastien Derks Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Mailing lists Hey Which mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net Breakout Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM stocks? Greetings Sébastien ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2ECB0.834658E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Harold,
 
The latest list was posted 2/21 = and you'll=20 find it at:
 
http= ://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.zip (zipped = version for download)
http= ://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.xls=20 (loads in your browser, but s-l-o-w)
 
Katherine
           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;   =20 to: Banks   List of Stocks
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold=20 Josephson
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:35 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Mailing=20 lists

Please tell = me how to=20 access the current Canslim Hunting List.

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold=20 Josephson
Tel:=20 323.850.1333
Fax: = 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com=20

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine = Malm
Sent: Sunday, March 16,=20 2003 = 4:49=20 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Mailing=20 lists

 

Hi=20 Sebastien,

 

Search for=20 the term "CANSLIM" at the following and you'll find a  slew of = free and=20 paid resources:

 

http://www.google.com

http://groups.yahoo.com

http://www.motleyfool.com = (search the=20 discussion boards)

 

Katherine

 

 

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of S=E9bastien=20 Derks
Sent: = Sunday, March=20 16, 2003 6:26 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Mailing=20 lists

 

Hey

 

 

Which=20 mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net = Breakout=20 Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM=20 stocks?

 

 

 

Greetings

 

 

 

S=E9bastien

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2ECB0.834658E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 17 Mar 2003 18:25:32 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2ECB2.981F30F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Harold, I'm not sure how familiar you are with Vectorvest, so will just give a quick glimpse of it in order to be complete but to the point. VV does not use the weighted average price of the industry over 2 quarters as does IBD/DGO or QP2/HGS to determine industry rank. They instead use a proprietary technical ranking known as Relative Timing (RT) to determine the industry rank. RT is simply the relationship of the price to the 13 week EMA. If price is at the 13 wk EMA, RT=1. The further the price is stretched above the 13 wk EMA, the closer RT is to 2. The further it is stretched below, the closer RT is to 0. VV then takes the RT of all stocks in the industry and averages them to come up with the industry RT. Industries are then sorted from highest to lowest and ranked accordingly. That means it is a faster measure of industry movement than the IBD's version. It also doesn't suffer from the pricing averaging problem. On the other hand, it has it's own quirks and drawbacks. Overall, the VV industries are very closely matched with IBD's, so that is very helpful. You just have to know what you're looking at when you use their rankings as they will be considerably different than IBD's. Katherine PS QP2= Quotes Plus (a bare bones data/graphing package. If you know Excel, you can do some fancy analysis with this modestly priced program) www.qp2.com HGS = HighGrowthStock Investing (this is an "add on" to the QP2 data, so you have to subscribe to QP2 *and* HGS to use it...more analysis tools, better graphing, no programming needed.) http://www.highgrowthstock.com/ These along with other commonly used packages are listed in our list FAQ: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc or http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.zip (zipped version for those who are having trouble displaying the document within their browser) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Your thoughts about VectorVest industry rankings? What is QP2/HGS? Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:02 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM To: canslim Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2ECB2.981F30F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Harold,
 
I'm not sure how familiar you are = with=20 Vectorvest, so will just give a quick glimpse of it in order to be = complete but=20 to the point.
 
VV does not use the weighted = average price=20 of the industry over 2 quarters as does IBD/DGO or QP2/HGS to determine = industry=20 rank. They instead use a proprietary technical ranking known as Relative = Timing=20 (RT) to determine the industry rank. RT is simply the relationship of = the price=20 to the 13 week EMA. If price is at the 13 wk EMA, RT=3D1. The further = the price is=20 stretched above the 13 wk EMA, the closer RT is to 2. The further it is=20 stretched below, the closer RT is to 0. VV then takes the RT of all = stocks in=20 the industry and averages them to come up with the industry RT. = Industries are=20 then sorted from highest to lowest and ranked accordingly.  That = means it=20 is a faster measure of industry movement than the IBD's version. It also = doesn't=20 suffer from the pricing averaging problem. On the other hand, it has = it's own=20 quirks and drawbacks. Overall, the VV industries are very closely = matched with=20 IBD's, so that is very helpful. You just have to know what you're = looking at=20 when you use their rankings as they will be considerably different than=20 IBD's.
 
Katherine
 
PS
QP2=3D Quotes Plus (a bare bones = data/graphing=20 package. If you know Excel, you can do some fancy analysis with = this=20 modestly priced program) www.qp2.com
HGS =3D HighGrowthStock Investing = (this is an=20 "add on" to the QP2 data, so you have to subscribe to QP2 *and* HGS to = use=20 it...more analysis tools, better graphing, no programming needed.) http://www.highgrowthstock.com/<= /A>
 
These along with other = commonly used=20 packages are listed in our list FAQ:

http://WallStre= et-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc=20 or  http://Wall= Street-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.zip=20 (zipped version for those who are having trouble displaying the document = within=20 their browser)

 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold=20 Josephson
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format

Your = thoughts about=20 VectorVest industry=20 rankings?

 

What is=20 QP2/HGS?

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold=20 Josephson
Tel:=20 323.850.1333
Fax: = 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com=20

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine = Malm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 = 12:02=20 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi=20 Nancy,

 

The electronic version = of the=20 Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document,=20 essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not = organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the=20 information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in=20 form.

 

In order to see the = industry=20 movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic = subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry=20 group feature on top of that (an additional=20 $200/yr).

 

The most cost = effective way to=20 see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. = Their=20 industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they = provide=20 far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to = be complete, we=20 have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site = (cwhcharts.com)=20 and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools = which=20 will be available soon as an additional feature within our=20 core product offering.

 

Beyond that, you're = somewhat at=20 the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status = and=20 movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show = the=20 %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all = depends=20 on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you = have, and=20 how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between = time,=20 money and analysis tools.

 

Katherine

 

 -----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On=20 Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 = 1:40=20 PM
To: = canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD = Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format

Katherine , would=20 you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to = download=20 it, but just review it on your computer?  I got the book once-I = think=20 at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant = remember)=20 for a new 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list = with new=20 additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one = you=20 printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one = thing I am=20 really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups = are=20 changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of = 197 this=20 week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of = 197. =20 Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In = the paper=20 it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to = search out=20 the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and = where it is=20 now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what = progressing=20 and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any=20 help  nancy

 

----- = Original=20 Message -----

From: = Katherine=20 Malm

Sent:=20 Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 = AM

To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: RE:=20 [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF=20 Format

 

That's exactly=20 it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download = an=20 updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each = time you=20 do it!!!

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom = Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003=20 11:20 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry=20 Groups in PDF Format

since it's not=20 a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert = you when=20 your last download went out of date. So only way to find out = would be to=20 pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them = to make=20 a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done = 2-3=20 times a year.

 

What a=20 gimmick!!!

 

----- Original=20 Message -----

From: Katherine=20 Malm

To: Canslim@Lists.Xmission.Com= =20

Sent:=20 Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 = AM

Subject:=20 [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF=20 Format

 

Hi=20 All,

 

The subject=20 of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the = list,=20 so thought I'd forward this new reference.=20

 

IBD has=20 finally provided an electronic version of their Industry = Group/Ticker=20 Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple = of times=20 a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited = however, as=20 you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each=20 download.

 

http://www= .dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp<= /P>

 

Still, it's a=20 nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after = a major=20 change in industry groupings as they had last=20 week.

 

Katherine

 

PS In case=20 you missed the changes to the industry groups, they=20 are:

Where there=20 is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will = see the=20 groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber = optics groups=20 were combined into one.

 

Dropped DGO=20 Industries

New DGO=20 = Industries

Computer-Optical=20 Recogtn

 

Elec-Control = Instruments

 

Elec-Laser=20 Sys/Component

 

 

 

 

Comml=20 Svcs-Consulting  =20

 

Comml = Svcs-Market=20 Rsrch

 

Media-Diversified      =20

 

Retail-Leisure=20 Products

 

Telecom-Wireless=20 Equip =20

 

Elec-Contract Mfg      =20

 

 

Electrical-Connectors  =20

Elec-Component/Connectr=20

Elec-Components        =20

 

 

 

Fiber Optic=20 Components =20

Telecom-Fiber=20 Optics    =

Fiber Optic=20 Networks   =20

 

 

 

Elec-Measrng = Instruments

Elec-Scientific/Msrng  =20

Elec-Scientific=20 Instrmnt

 

 

 

Computer-Services      =20

Computer-Tech=20 Services =20

Computer-Graphics      =20

Computer=20 Sftwr-Design   =

Computer-Memory=20 Devices

Computer-Data=20 Storage  =20

Textile-Apparel=20 Mfg    =20

Apparel-Clothing=20 Mfg   =20

Retail/Whlsle-Auto=20 Parts

Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts

Retail-Apparel/Shoe    =20

Apparel-Shoes &=20 Rel Mfg

Retail-Misc/Diversified=20

Retail-Miscellaneous   =20

Shoes & = Rel=20 Apparel    =20

Retail-Clothing/Shoe   =20

Internet-Security/Sltns=20

Internet-Network=20 Sltns =20

Household-Audio/Video  =20

Household-Consumer=20 Elec =

 

=
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2ECB2.981F30F0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: [CANSLIM] Term of the Day - Leprechaun Leader Date: 17 Mar 2003 19:51:17 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0201_01C2ECBE.92E7C780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Term Of The Day: Leprechaun Leader A corporate manager or executive who, like the fabled Irish=20 elf, is a mischievous and elusive creature said to possess=20 buried treasures of money and gold. According to Irish=20 folklore, the location of hidden treasure is only revealed=20 when the leprechaun is caught. In the case of a leprechaun=20 leader, the "buried treasure" is often not buried, but rather=20 in a protected offshore account! =20 Investopedia Says: An example of leprechaun leaders would be the executives of=20 Enron, who stowed away millions of dollars until they were=20 finally caught.=20 Related Links: Article: Evaluating a Company's Management=20 http://www.investopedia.com/articles/02/062602.asp Article: The Basics of Corporate Governance=20 http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/022803.asp Article: High and Mighty and Crooked=20 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44476-2002Feb8.html Happy St. Patrick's Day! Gene ------=_NextPart_000_0201_01C2ECBE.92E7C780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Term= Of The=20 Day: Leprechaun=20 Leader
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A=20 corporate manager or executive who, like the fabled Irish
elf, is a=20 mischievous and elusive creature said to possess
buried treasures of = money=20 and gold. According to Irish
folklore, the location of hidden = treasure is=20 only revealed
when the leprechaun is caught. In the case of a = leprechaun=20
leader, the "buried treasure" is often not buried, but rather
in = a=20 protected offshore account!
 

Investopedia=20 Says:
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= An=20 example of leprechaun leaders would be the executives of
Enron, who = stowed=20 away millions of dollars until they were
finally caught. =


Related=20 Links:
------------------------------------------------------------Article: =20 Evaluating a Company's Management
http://www.in= vestopedia.com/articles/02/062602.asp

Article: =20 The Basics of Corporate Governance
http:/= /www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/022803.asp

Article:&n= bsp;=20 High and Mighty and Crooked
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44476-2002Feb8.html=


Happy St. Patrick's Day!
Gene
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Gene, I was surprised to hear that = Schwab told you that they have the same procedures as Ameritrade.  I also have accounts with = Schwab, and they told me the opposite!  = They said that I can sell a stock and buy another the same day with the = proceeds of the first sale, no problem. The Federal Reserve Board emailed me back = today and stated that “one can sell a stock and purchase another one the = same day with the proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell the second security before the purchase settles.”   I would think that the FRB = would have the final word on the matter, but can one do to make Ameritrade = (and, perhaps, Schwab) comply with the law and the FRB interpretation?  Again, I think = Ameritrade’s interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors particularly.  Imagine during a bull market: = you are fully invested, and you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get into = one that is breaking out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting = that you would need to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest your money = (and miss the breakout by three days).  The easy answer to this is, of course, to convert to a margin = account.  But what if your account is an = IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin account?  What would happen if one simply = ignored Ameritrade and sold one stock and bought another with the proceeds in = the same day without waiting three days?  Could they block or rescind your purchase of the breakout = stock?  Could they freeze you out and = your account for 90 days?  Put you in = jail?  Help! =

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of genr
Sent: = Monday, March 17, = 2003 10:16 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = New trading restrictions

 

Jerome, I just = checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for non-margin accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid (interest) for lending = you (us) money and suggest using a margin account if additional funds are = required to make a trade. The IRA accounts require money to be in the = account prior to an order (no margin).

 

Can't speak for = any other brokers,

Gene

 

 

----- Original Message = -----

To:<= /font> 'CANSLIM LIST'

Sent: Sunday, March 16, = 2003 3:20 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions

 

 

Tom = Worley,

Thank you for your = input.  I followed your advice, and = called Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule.  It is attached.  This is a “canned” = response: It says, “Our records indicate that you have recently sold = securities in your account prior to making full cash payment…” even though = I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never placed any orders with them = yet.   In contrast to my earlier discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from = the NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of = Governors of the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment.  This “new rule” is = further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a margin account which = is not, according to the attachment, permitted for IRA’s and custodial accounts.  This could be = devastating for us who are using the canslim system to build our retirement = account.  We will be forced to keep a = large portion of our account in cash during a bull market in anticipation of a = break out or we could be fully invested and miss every breakout by three days, = after the sale settles.  I guess = the main questions are:  is this = just an Ameritrade internal policy as you suspected?   Will other brokerages = follow suit?  What do you -- and = the other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction?  Again, Tom, thanks for all your help.  Jerome    =

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2ECC3.86406460-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Date: 17 Mar 2003 22:39:36 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C2ECD6.166A31D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome, sounds like you have your answer.... use Schwab and not = Ameritrade.=20 Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerome Buckmelter=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:26 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Gene, I was surprised to hear that Schwab told you that they have the = same procedures as Ameritrade. I also have accounts with Schwab, and = they told me the opposite! They said that I can sell a stock and buy = another the same day with the proceeds of the first sale, no problem. = The Federal Reserve Board emailed me back today and stated that "one can = sell a stock and purchase another one the same day with the proceeds, = provided that one does not intend to sell the second security before the = purchase settles." I would think that the FRB would have the final = word on the matter, but can one do to make Ameritrade (and, perhaps, = Schwab) comply with the law and the FRB interpretation? Again, I think = Ameritrade's interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors = particularly. Imagine during a bull market: you are fully invested, and = you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get into one that is breaking = out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting that you would need = to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest your money (and = miss the breakout by three days). The easy answer to this is, of = course, to convert to a margin account. But what if your account is an = IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin account? = What would happen if one simply ignored Ameritrade and sold one stock = and bought another with the proceeds in the same day without waiting = three days? Could they block or rescind your purchase of the breakout = stock? Could they freeze you out and your account for 90 days? Put you = in jail? Help!=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of genr Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:16 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions =20 Jerome, I just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures = for non-margin accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid = (interest) for lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account = if additional funds are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts = require money to be in the account prior to an order (no margin). =20 Can't speak for any other brokers, Gene =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerome Buckmelter=20 To: 'CANSLIM LIST'=20 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions =20 =20 Tom Worley, Thank you for your input. I followed your advice, and called = Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule. It is attached. = This is a "canned" response: It says, "Our records indicate that you = have recently sold securities in your account prior to making full cash = payment." even though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never = placed any orders with them yet. In contrast to my earlier discussions = with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from the NASD as = they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the = Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment. This "new = rule" is further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a = margin account which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for = IRA's and custodial accounts. This could be devastating for us who are = using the canslim system to build our retirement account. We will be = forced to keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull = market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and = miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles. I guess the = main questions are: is this just an Ameritrade internal policy as you = suspected? Will other brokerages follow suit? What do you -- and the = other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction? = Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. Jerome =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C2ECD6.166A31D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jerome, sounds like you have your = answer.... use=20 Schwab and not Ameritrade.
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jerome=20 Buckmelter
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 = 10:26=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New = trading=20 restrictions

Gene, I was = surprised=20 to hear that Schwab told you that they have the same procedures as = Ameritrade.=20  I also have accounts = with Schwab,=20 and they told me the opposite!  = They said that I can sell a stock and buy another the same day = with the=20 proceeds of the first sale, no problem. The Federal Reserve Board = emailed me=20 back today and stated that =93one can sell a stock and purchase = another one the=20 same day with the proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell = the=20 second security before the purchase settles.=94   I would think that the = FRB would=20 have the final word on the matter, but can one do to make Ameritrade = (and,=20 perhaps, Schwab) comply with the law and the FRB interpretation?  Again, I think = Ameritrade=92s=20 interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors particularly.  Imagine during a bull = market: you are=20 fully invested, and you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get = into one=20 that is breaking out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting = that you=20 would need to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest = your money=20 (and miss the breakout by three days). =20 The easy answer to this is, of course, to convert to a margin=20 account.  But what if = your account=20 is an IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin=20 account?  What would = happen if one=20 simply ignored Ameritrade and sold one stock and bought another with = the=20 proceeds in the same day without waiting three days?  Could they block or rescind = your=20 purchase of the breakout stock? =20 Could they freeze you out and your account for 90 days?  Put you in jail?  Help! =

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of = genr
Sent: Monday, March 17,=20 2003 = 10:16=20 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New = trading=20 restrictions

 

Jerome, I=20 just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for = non-margin=20 accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid (interest) = for=20 lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account if = additional funds=20 are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts require money = to be in the=20 account prior to an order (no=20 margin).

 

Can't speak=20 for any other brokers,

Gene

 

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Jerome=20 Buckmelter

To: 'CANSLIM LIST'=20

Sent:=20 Sunday, = March 16,=20 2003 = 3:20=20 PM

Subject:=20 [CANSLIM] New trading = restrictions

 

 

Tom=20 Worley,

Thank you for your = input.  I followed your advice, = and called=20 Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule.  It is attached.  This is a =93canned=94 = response: It=20 says, =93Our records indicate that you have recently sold securities = in your=20 account prior to making full cash payment=85=94 even though I am a = new=20 Ameritrade customer and have never placed any orders with them = yet.   In contrast to my = earlier=20 discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be = from the=20 NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of = Governors of=20 the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the = attachment.  This =93new rule=94 is = further=20 disturbing since the only alternative is to have a margin account = which is=20 not, according to the attachment, permitted for IRA=92s and = custodial=20 accounts.  This could = be=20 devastating for us who are using the canslim system to build our = retirement=20 account.  We will be = forced to=20 keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull market in=20 anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and miss = every=20 breakout by three days, after the sale settles.  I guess the main questions = are:  is this just an Ameritrade = internal=20 policy as you suspected?  =20 Will other brokerages follow suit?  What do you -- and the = other=20 canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous = restriction?  Again, Tom, thanks for all = your=20 help.  Jerome   =20 =

------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C2ECD6.166A31D0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Date: 17 Mar 2003 23:36:40 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C2ECDE.0FB1CA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome, perhaps you did not understand my prior reply, but the = attachment you posted from Ameritrade does not prohibit you from buying = one stock with the proceeds from another sale done the same day. It did = inform you that your acct was restricted, as I pointed out, if you had = not done any sales, then that is obviously an error. One thing that did = occur to me is that you are transferring into Ameritrade an acct from = another firm. If that acct is already restricted due to a violation of a = Fed call or Reg T call that was not met, or a sale without paying for = the purchase, then that restriction travels with the acct on the = transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, nor Schwab. Once your acct is restricted, then you must have settled funds in order = to place a new purchase. The restriction lasts for 90 days, and results = from you having violated the Fed rule requiring you to pay for your = purchases. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 PM Gene, I was surprised to hear that Schwab told you that they have the = same procedures as Ameritrade. I also have accounts with Schwab, and = they told me the opposite! They said that I can sell a stock and buy = another the same day with the proceeds of the first sale, no problem. = The Federal Reserve Board emailed me back today and stated that "one can = sell a stock and purchase another one the same day with the proceeds, = provided that one does not intend to sell the second security before the = purchase settles." I would think that the FRB would have the final = word on the matter, but can one do to make Ameritrade (and, perhaps, = Schwab) comply with the law and the FRB interpretation? Again, I think = Ameritrade's interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors = particularly. Imagine during a bull market: you are fully invested, and = you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get into one that is breaking = out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting that you would need = to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest your money (and = miss the breakout by three days). The easy answer to this is, of = course, to convert to a margin account. But what if your account is an = IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin account? = What would happen if one simply ignored Ameritrade and sold one stock = and bought another with the proceeds in the same day without waiting = three days? Could they block or rescind your purchase of the breakout = stock? Could they freeze you out and your account for 90 days? Put you = in jail? Help!=20 =20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of genr Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:16 AM =20 Jerome, I just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for = non-margin accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid = (interest) for lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account = if additional funds are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts = require money to be in the account prior to an order (no margin). =20 Can't speak for any other brokers, Gene =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerome Buckmelter=20 To: 'CANSLIM LIST'=20 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions =20 =20 Tom Worley, Thank you for your input. I followed your advice, and called = Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule. It is attached. = This is a "canned" response: It says, "Our records indicate that you = have recently sold securities in your account prior to making full cash = payment." even though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never = placed any orders with them yet. In contrast to my earlier discussions = with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from the NASD as = they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the = Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment. This "new = rule" is further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a = margin account which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for = IRA's and custodial accounts. This could be devastating for us who are = using the canslim system to build our retirement account. We will be = forced to keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull = market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and = miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles. I guess the = main questions are: is this just an Ameritrade internal policy as you = suspected? Will other brokerages follow suit? What do you -- and the = other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction? = Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. Jerome =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C2ECDE.0FB1CA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jerome, perhaps you did not understand my prior = reply, but=20 the attachment you posted from Ameritrade does not prohibit you from = buying one=20 stock with the proceeds from another sale done the same day. It did = inform you=20 that your acct was restricted, as I pointed out, if you had not done any = sales,=20 then that is obviously an error. One thing that did occur to me is that = you are=20 transferring into Ameritrade an acct from another firm. If that acct is = already=20 restricted due to a violation of a Fed call or Reg T call that was not = met, or a=20 sale without paying for the purchase, then that restriction travels with = the=20 acct on the transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, = nor=20 Schwab.
 
Once your acct is restricted, then you must have = settled=20 funds in order to place a new purchase. The restriction lasts for 90 = days, and=20 results from you having violated the Fed rule requiring you to pay for = your=20 purchases.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jerome=20 Buckmelter
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions

Gene, I was = surprised=20 to hear that Schwab told you that they have the same procedures as = Ameritrade.=20  I also have accounts with = Schwab,=20 and they told me the opposite!  = They=20 said that I can sell a stock and buy another the same day with the = proceeds of=20 the first sale, no problem. The Federal Reserve Board emailed me back = today and=20 stated that =93one can sell a stock and purchase another one the same = day with the=20 proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell the second security = before=20 the purchase settles.=94   I=20 would think that the FRB would have the final word on the matter, but = can one do=20 to make Ameritrade (and, perhaps, Schwab) comply with the law and the = FRB=20 interpretation?  Again, I = think=20 Ameritrade=92s interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors = particularly.  Imagine during a bull market: = you are=20 fully invested, and you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get into = one that=20 is breaking out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting that = you would=20 need to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest your money = (and=20 miss the breakout by three days). =20 The easy answer to this is, of course, to convert to a margin=20 account.  But what if your = account=20 is an IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin = account?  What would happen if one = simply ignored=20 Ameritrade and sold one stock and bought another with the proceeds in = the same=20 day without waiting three days? =20 Could they block or rescind your purchase of the breakout = stock?  Could they freeze you out and = your=20 account for 90 days?  Put = you in=20 jail?  Help!=20

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of = genr
Sent: Monday, March 17,=20 2003 10:16=20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New = trading=20 restrictions

 

Jerome, I=20 just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for = non-margin=20 accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid (interest) = for=20 lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account if additional = funds=20 are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts require money to be = in the=20 account prior to an order (no=20 margin).

 

Can't speak=20 for any other brokers,

Gene

 

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Jerome = Buckmelter

To: 'CANSLIM LIST'=20

Sent:=20 Sunday, = March 16,=20 2003 3:20=20 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM]=20 New trading restrictions

 

 

Tom=20 Worley,

Thank you for your = input.  I followed your advice, and = called=20 Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule.  It is attached.  This is a =93canned=94 = response: It says,=20 =93Our records indicate that you have recently sold securities in your = account=20 prior to making full cash payment=85=94 even though I am a new = Ameritrade customer=20 and have never placed any orders with them yet.   In contrast to my = earlier=20 discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be = from the=20 NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of = Governors of=20 the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment.  This =93new rule=94 is = further disturbing=20 since the only alternative is to have a margin account which is not, = according=20 to the attachment, permitted for IRA=92s and custodial accounts.  This could be devastating = for us who=20 are using the canslim system to build our retirement account.  We will be forced to keep a = large=20 portion of our account in cash during a bull market in anticipation of = a break=20 out or we could be fully invested and miss every breakout by three = days, after=20 the sale settles.  I = guess the=20 main questions are:  is = this just=20 an Ameritrade internal policy as you suspected?   Will other brokerages = follow=20 suit?  What do you -- = and the=20 other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous = restriction?  Again, Tom, thanks for all = your=20 help.  Jerome   =20

------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C2ECDE.0FB1CA80-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harold Josephson Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format Date: 17 Mar 2003 23:11:36 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2ECDA.92263B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excellent. Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:26 PM Hi Harold, I'm not sure how familiar you are with Vectorvest, so will just give a quick glimpse of it in order to be complete but to the point. VV does not use the weighted average price of the industry over 2 quarters as does IBD/DGO or QP2/HGS to determine industry rank. They instead use a proprietary technical ranking known as Relative Timing (RT) to determine the industry rank. RT is simply the relationship of the price to the 13 week EMA. If price is at the 13 wk EMA, RT=1. The further the price is stretched above the 13 wk EMA, the closer RT is to 2. The further it is stretched below, the closer RT is to 0. VV then takes the RT of all stocks in the industry and averages them to come up with the industry RT. Industries are then sorted from highest to lowest and ranked accordingly. That means it is a faster measure of industry movement than the IBD's version. It also doesn't suffer from the pricing averaging problem. On the other hand, it has it's own quirks and drawbacks. Overall, the VV industries are very closely matched with IBD's, so that is very helpful. You just have to know what you're looking at when you use their rankings as they will be considerably different than IBD's. Katherine PS QP2= Quotes Plus (a bare bones data/graphing package. If you know Excel, you can do some fancy analysis with this modestly priced program) www.qp2.com HGS = HighGrowthStock Investing (this is an "add on" to the QP2 data, so you have to subscribe to QP2 *and* HGS to use it...more analysis tools, better graphing, no programming needed.) http://www.highgrowthstock.com/ These along with other commonly used packages are listed in our list FAQ: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.doc or http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMFAQ.zip (zipped version for those who are having trouble displaying the document within their browser) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM Your thoughts about VectorVest industry rankings? What is QP2/HGS? Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:02 PM Hi Nancy, The electronic version of the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in form. In order to see the industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their industry group feature on top of that (an additional $200/yr). The most cost effective way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which will be available soon as an additional feature within our core product offering. Beyond that, you're somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, money and analysis tools. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:40 PM Katherine , would you have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just review it on your computer? I got the book once-I think at the time it was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new 40.00. Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then another month 150 of 197. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks for any help nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM That's exactly it, Tom. The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do it!!! -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:20 AM since it's not a subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year. What a gimmick!!! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM Hi All, The subject of industry group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd forward this new reference. IBD has finally provided an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download. http://www.dailygraphs.com/subscribe/197IndGroups.asp Still, it's a nice addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in industry groupings as they had last week. Katherine PS In case you missed the changes to the industry groups, they are: Where there is a combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into one. Dropped DGO Industries New DGO Industries Computer-Optical Recogtn Elec-Control Instruments Elec-Laser Sys/Component Comml Svcs-Consulting Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch Media-Diversified Retail-Leisure Products Telecom-Wireless Equip Elec-Contract Mfg Electrical-Connectors Elec-Component/Connectr Elec-Components Fiber Optic Components Telecom-Fiber Optics Fiber Optic Networks Elec-Measrng Instruments Elec-Scientific/Msrng Elec-Scientific Instrmnt Computer-Services Computer-Tech Services Computer-Graphics Computer Sftwr-Design Computer-Memory Devices Computer-Data Storage Textile-Apparel Mfg Apparel-Clothing Mfg Retail/Whlsle-Auto Parts Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts Retail-Apparel/Shoe Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg Retail-Misc/Diversified Retail-Miscellaneous Shoes & Rel Apparel Retail-Clothing/Shoe Internet-Security/Sltns Internet-Network Sltns Household-Audio/Video Household-Consumer Elec ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2ECDA.92263B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Excellent.=

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: = Monday, March 17, = 2003 4:26 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi Harold,

 

I'm not sure how familiar you are with = Vectorvest, so will just give a quick glimpse of it in order to be complete but to the = point.

 

VV does not use the weighted average price of = the industry over 2 quarters as does IBD/DGO or QP2/HGS to determine = industry rank. They instead use a proprietary technical ranking known as Relative = Timing (RT) to determine the industry rank. RT is simply the relationship of the = price to the 13 week EMA. If price is at the 13 wk EMA, RT=3D1. The further the = price is stretched above the 13 wk EMA, the closer RT is to 2. The further it is stretched below, the closer RT is to 0. VV then takes the RT of all = stocks in the industry and averages them to come up with the industry RT. = Industries are then sorted from highest to lowest and ranked accordingly.  That = means it is a faster measure of industry movement than the IBD's version. It also doesn't suffer from the pricing averaging problem. On the other hand, it = has it's own quirks and drawbacks. Overall, the VV industries are very = closely matched with IBD's, so that is very helpful. You just have to know what = you're looking at when you use their rankings as they will be considerably = different than IBD's.

 

Katherine

 

PS

QP2=3D Quotes Plus (a bare bones = data/graphing package. If you know Excel, you can do some fancy analysis with this = modestly priced program) www.qp2.com

HGS =3D HighGrowthStock Investing (this is an = "add on" to the QP2 data, so you have to subscribe to QP2 *and* HGS to = use it...more analysis tools, better graphing, no programming needed.) http://www.highgrowthstock.com/<= /a>

 

These along with other commonly used = packages are listed in our list FAQ:

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson
Sent: = Monday, March 17, = 2003 3:14 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Your thoughts = about VectorVest industry rankings?

 =

What is = QP2/HGS?

 =

Thanks=

 =

Harold=

 =

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: = Thursday, March 13, = 2003 12:02 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = Nancy,

 

The electronic version of = the Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book is a pay for download PDF document, essentially an electronic version of the book. Unfortunately, it's not organized as a spreadsheet or equivalent, so is just a way to get the information in a more timely fashion, but otherwise no different in = form.

 

In order to see the = industry movement you mention within the IBD products, you have to have a basic subscription to DGO (about $700 per year) and then have to ADD their = industry group feature on top of that (an additional = $200/yr).

 

The most cost effective = way to see the movement in industries is to subscribe to the QP2/HGS combo. Their industries are essentially equivalent to the DGO industries and they = provide far more analysis tools than does DGO itself. And just to be complete, = we have the ability to see stocks within industry at our own site = (cwhcharts.com) and are completing the testing on additional industry analysis tools which = will be available soon as an additional feature within our = core product offering.

 

Beyond that, you're = somewhat at the mercy of free sites and their various tools for industry status and movement. For example BigCharts has an industry page where they show the = %price change for each industry over several periods. I think it all depends on exactly how you wish to use the information, how much time you have, and = how much money you're willing to spend to make the trade-off between time, = money and analysis tools.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Katherine<= /p>

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 1:40 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

Katherine , would you = have access to the new additions as added if you didnt wish to download it, but just = review it on your computer?  I got the book once-I think at the time it = was updated every 6 months or every quarter(cant remember) for a new = 40.00.  Wouldnt you be able to supplement the list with new additions from = another site list of industries groups(like the one you printed for us the other day = that included rmbs) . Also-one thing I am really interested in is = finding a way to see how industriy groups are changing on a weekly or monthly = basis. Say the group is 184 of 197 this week and in a month it is 172 of 197 then = another month 150 of 197.  Does anyone know of an easy way to find and = organize that info. In the paper it is listed in numerical order I believe and = you would have to search out the name of the industry and notate where it was last = month and where it is now,etc. etc. I think this would give me a better view = of what progressing and falling behind and where to focus my attention?? Thanks = for any help  nancy

 

=

----- Original Message = -----

From: Katherine Malm

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:26 AM

To:<= /font> canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

That's exactly it, Tom. = The information is updated each day and you can download an updated version = each day if you wish, but it costs you $40 each time you do = it!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 11:20 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format<= /p>

since it's not a = subscription, I have my suspicions that they would not alert you when your last download = went out of date. So only way to find out would be to pay your $40 and try = again. And it would be easy enough for them to make a change every few weeks = rather than the major updates only done 2-3 times a year.<= /p>

 

What a = gimmick!!!<= /p>

 

----- Original Message = -----

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:42 AM

Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Industry Groups in PDF Format

 

Hi = All,

 

The subject of industry = group inclusion seems to come up fairly often on the list, so thought I'd = forward this new reference.

 

IBD has finally provided = an electronic version of their Industry Group/Ticker Symbol book. Updates = are available each day instead of a couple of times a year as with the = printed edition. Don't get overly excited however, as you'll pay $39.99 for the privilege of each download.

 

 

Still, it's a nice = addition to their product offerings, especially just after a major change in = industry groupings as they had last week.

 

Katherine

 

PS In case you missed the = changes to the industry groups, they are:

Where there is a = combination of 2 groups or a simple name change, you will see the groups listed next to = each other. For example, the 2 fiber optics groups were combined into = one.

 

Dropped DGO = Industries

New DGO = Industries

Computer-Optical = Recogtn

 

Elec-Control = Instruments

 

Elec-Laser = Sys/Component

 

 

 

 

Comml Svcs-Consulting   =

 

Comml Svcs-Market Rsrch =

 

Media-Diversified       =

 

Retail-Leisure Products =

 

Telecom-Wireless Equip 

 

Elec-Contract Mfg       =

 

 

Electrical-Connectors   =

Elec-Component/Connectr =

Elec-Components       &nbs= p;

 

 

 

Fiber Optic Components 

Telecom-Fiber Optics    =

Fiber Optic Networks    =

 

 

 

Elec-Measrng = Instruments

Elec-Scientific/Msrng   =

Elec-Scientific = Instrmnt

 

 

 

Computer-Services       =

Computer-Tech Services 

Computer-Graphics       =

Computer Sftwr-Design   =

Computer-Memory Devices =

Computer-Data Storage   =

Textile-Apparel Mfg     =

Apparel-Clothing Mfg    =

Retail/Whlsle-Auto = Parts

Retail/Whlsle-Autos/Prts

Retail-Apparel/Shoe     =

Apparel-Shoes & Rel Mfg =

Retail-Misc/Diversified =

Retail-Miscellaneous    =

Shoes & Rel Apparel     =

Retail-Clothing/Shoe    =

Internet-Security/Sltns =

Internet-Network Sltns 

Household-Audio/Video   =

Household-Consumer Elec =

 

------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2ECDA.92263B80-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harold Josephson Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Mailing lists Date: 17 Mar 2003 23:12:31 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2ECDA.B337CF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Again, many thanks. =20 Harold =20 Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com=20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:11 PM =20 Hi Harold, =20 The latest list was posted 2/21 and you'll find it at: =20 http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.zip (zipped version for download) http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.xls (loads in your browser, but s-l-o-w) =20 Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:35 PM Please tell me how to access the current Canslim Hunting List. =20 Thanks =20 Harold =20 Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com=20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:49 AM =20 Hi Sebastien, =20 Search for the term "CANSLIM" at the following and you'll find a slew of free and paid resources: =20 http://www.google.com http://groups.yahoo.com http://www.motleyfool.com (search the discussion boards) =20 Katherine =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of S=E9bastien Derks Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:26 AM =20 Hey =20 =20 Which mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net Breakout Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM stocks? =20 =20 =20 Greetings =20 =20 =20 S=E9bastien ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2ECDA.B337CF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Again, many = thanks.

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: = Monday, March 17, = 2003 4:11 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

 

Hi = Harold,

 

The latest = list was posted 2/21 and you'll find it at:

 

 

Katherine

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson
Sent: = Monday, March 17, = 2003 4:35 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

Please tell me how to access the current Canslim Hunting = List.

 =

Thanks=

 =

Harold=

 =

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: = Sunday, March 16, = 2003 4:49 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

 

Hi Sebastien,

 

Search for the term "CANSLIM" at the following and you'll = find a  slew of free and paid resources:

 

http://www.motleyfool.com = (search the discussion boards)

 

Katherine

 

 

 

-----O= riginal Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of S=E9bastien Derks
Sent: Sunday, March 16, = 2003 6:26 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

&n= bsp;

Hey

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

Whic= h mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net = Breakout Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM = stocks?

 

 

 

Gree= tings

 

 

 

S=E9= bastien

------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2ECDA.B337CF00-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harold Josephson Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Mailing lists Date: 17 Mar 2003 23:24:05 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2ECDC.506B6150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there an instruction file lurking somewhere? =20 Thanks =20 Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com=20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:11 PM =20 Hi Harold, =20 The latest list was posted 2/21 and you'll find it at: =20 http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.zip (zipped version for download) http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.xls (loads in your browser, but s-l-o-w) =20 Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:35 PM Please tell me how to access the current Canslim Hunting List. =20 Thanks =20 Harold =20 Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com=20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:49 AM =20 Hi Sebastien, =20 Search for the term "CANSLIM" at the following and you'll find a slew of free and paid resources: =20 http://www.google.com http://groups.yahoo.com http://www.motleyfool.com (search the discussion boards) =20 Katherine =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of S=E9bastien Derks Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:26 AM =20 Hey =20 =20 Which mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net Breakout Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM stocks? =20 =20 =20 Greetings =20 =20 =20 S=E9bastien ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2ECDC.506B6150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is there an instruction file = lurking somewhere?

 

Thanks

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: = Monday, March 17, = 2003 4:11 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

 

Hi = Harold,

 

The latest = list was posted 2/21 and you'll find it at:

 

 

Katherine

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson
Sent: = Monday, March 17, = 2003 4:35 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

Please tell me how to access the current Canslim Hunting = List.

 =

Thanks=

 =

Harold=

 =

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: = Sunday, March 16, = 2003 4:49 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

 

Hi Sebastien,

 

Search for the term "CANSLIM" at the following and you'll = find a  slew of free and paid resources:

 

http://www.motleyfool.com = (search the discussion boards)

 

Katherine

 

 

 

-----O= riginal Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of S=E9bastien Derks
Sent: Sunday, March 16, = 2003 6:26 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Mailing lists

&n= bsp;

Hey

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

Whic= h mailing lists are out there besides this message board, canslim.net = Breakout Reports which provide valuable information in relation to CANSLIM = stocks?

 

 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2ECDC.506B6150-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Date: 18 Mar 2003 08:22:14 -0600 I use Ameritrade, and I have bought and sold on the same day numerous times Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Jerome Buckmelter" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions ission.com 03/17/2003 10:26 PM Please respond to canslim Gene, I was surprised to hear that Schwab told you that they have the same procedures as Ameritrade. I also have accounts with Schwab, and they told me the opposite! They said that I can sell a stock and buy another the same day with the proceeds of the first sale, no problem. The Federal Reserve Board emailed me back today and stated that $B!H(Bone can sell a stock and purchase another one the same day with the proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell the second security before the purchase settles.$B!I(B I would think that the FRB would have the final word on the matter, but can one do to make Ameritrade (and, perhaps, Schwab) comply with the law and the FRB interpretation? Again, I think Ameritrade$B!G(Bs interpretation can really hurt CANSLIM investors particularly. Imagine during a bull market: you are fully invested, and you want to sell a slower moving stock, to get into one that is breaking out (as WON suggests); well, Ameritrade is insisting that you would need to wait three days after the sale in order to re-invest your money (and miss the breakout by three days). The easy answer to this is, of course, to convert to a margin account. But what if your account is an IRA or custodial account which is not eligible for a margin account? What would happen if one simply ignored Ameritrade and sold one stock and bought another with the proceeds in the same day without waiting three days? Could they block or rescind your purchase of the breakout stock? Could they freeze you out and your account for 90 days? Put you in jail? Help! -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of genr Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:16 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Jerome, I just checked with Schwab and they have the same procedures for non-margin accounts. I believe that brokers just want to get paid (interest) for lending you (us) money and suggest using a margin account if additional funds are required to make a trade. The IRA accounts require money to be in the account prior to an order (no margin). Can't speak for any other brokers, Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerome Buckmelter To: 'CANSLIM LIST' Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] New trading restrictions Tom Worley, Thank you for your input. I followed your advice, and called Ameritrade requesting that they email me the new rule. It is attached. This is a $B!H(Bcanned$B!I(B response: It says, $B!H(BOur records indicate that you have recently sold securities in your account prior to making full cash payment$B!D!I(B even though I am a new Ameritrade customer and have never placed any orders with them yet. In contrast to my earlier discussions with Ameritrade, this new ruling does not appear to be from the NASD as they claimed, but rather from the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System as they now claim per the attachment. This $B!H(Bnew rule$B!I(B is further disturbing since the only alternative is to have a margin account which is not, according to the attachment, permitted for IRA$B!G(Bs and custodial accounts. This could be devastating for us who are using the canslim system to build our retirement account. We will be forced to keep a large portion of our account in cash during a bull market in anticipation of a break out or we could be fully invested and miss every breakout by three days, after the sale settles. I guess the main questions are: is this just an Ameritrade internal policy as you suspected? Will other brokerages follow suit? What do you -- and the other canslimers -- think should be done about this onerous restriction? Again, Tom, thanks for all your help. Jerome - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03 Date: 18 Mar 2003 11:46:42 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C2ED44.0BB2EE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I've uploaded the latest CANSLIM Hunting list to: http://cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting031703.xls ( quite slow to load) http://cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting031703.zip ( a zipped version for download) *Please note that these spreadsheets were prepared with Excel 2000 for Windows. If you have older versions of Excel or use a Mac version, you will not be able to view them properly. If you do not have Excel, see http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/xlviewer.aspx for a free viewer. If you'd like to look at last month's hunting list, you will find it at: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022103.zip In order to make it to the list, the stock had to have a forward growth rate of at least 15%, Price at least 6, Avg Daily Vol at least 30K, RS at least 60, no more than 15% below the 50 day SMA, and at or above the 200 day SMA. This is what I consider to be "bare bones" requirements for CANSLIM quality stocks. (Note that if you follow stricter CANSLIM guidelines, you can use the autofilter feature in each column and view only Price>=$12 (or 15) and AvgVol>=100000.) Other information included is industry name (slightly different than DGO's names, but close), price, avg vol, and links to graphs and due diligence sites on the internet. You'll find a column for the % change in price since the market low 10/10/02 and another column which shows the direction of the RS Line since the 10/10 market low. If the RS Line (RS compared to S&P500) has been going up since that date (indicating outperformance relative to the market), it is indicated with a "+". Be sure to note that there are 4 sheets in the workbook. The first sheet has the listed stocks; others include a list of stocks dropped from the list, a summary of stocks by sector, and a sheet with misc. links for free info on the web. This month there are 4 75 names, up 60 names from the list I posted last month. This month, only 84 names fell from the list, 144 names are new and 332 names are repeats. In general, that's the most stability I've seen on the list in ages. No surprise that the Petroleum sector has the largest number of stocks, but several growth sectors continue to demonstrate persistence on the list such as Heatlhcare, Retail, Internet, Computer, Business Services, Electronics, Software and Telecom. Happy Hunting, Katherine PS You can see a list of stocks on the 2/20/02 list at: http://cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting022002.zip ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C2ED44.0BB2EE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
 
I've uploaded the latest CANSLIM Hunting list to:
 
http://<= SPAN=20 class=3D906271822-11012003>cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting<= SPAN=20 class=3D906271822-11012003>031703.xls = ( quite slow to load)
http://<= SPAN=20 class=3D906271822-11012003>cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting<= SPAN=20 class=3D171303916-23022003>031703.zip  ( a zipped version for=20 download)
*Please note that these spreadsheets were prepared with Excel 2000 = for=20 Windows. If you have older versions of Excel or use a Mac version, you = will not=20 be able to view them properly. If you do not have Excel, see http://= office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/xlviewer.aspx for=20 a free viewer.
 
If you'd like to look at last month's hunting list, you will find = it=20 at:
http= ://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunt= ing022103.zip
 
In order to make it to the list, the stock had to have a forward = growth=20 rate of at least 15%, Price at least 6, Avg Daily Vol at least 30K, RS = at least=20 60, no more than 15% below the 50 day SMA, and at or above the 200 day = SMA. This=20 is what I consider to be "bare bones" requirements for CANSLIM quality = stocks.=20 (Note that if you follow stricter CANSLIM guidelines, you can use the = autofilter=20 feature in each column and view only Price>=3D$12 (or 15) and=20 AvgVol>=3D100000.) Other information included is industry name = (slightly=20 different than DGO's names, but close), price, avg vol, and  links = to=20 graphs and due diligence sites on the internet.=20 You'll find a column for the % change=20 in price since the market low 10/10/02 and another column which shows = the=20 direction of the RS Line since the 10/10 market low. If the RS = Line (RS=20 compared to S&P500) has been going up since that date (indicating=20 outperformance relative to the market), it is indicated with a = "+". Be sure to note that there are 4 = sheets in the=20 workbook. The first sheet has the listed stocks;=20 others include a list of stocks dropped from the list, a summary = of=20 stocks by sector, and a sheet with misc. links for free info on the = web.
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This month there are 4 75 names, up = 60 names from the list I posted = last=20 month.  This month, only=20 84 names fell from the list, 144 names are new = and 332 names are=20 repeats. 
 
In general,=20 that's the most stability I've seen on the list in ages. No surprise = that the=20 Petroleum sector has the largest number of stocks, but several growth = sectors=20 continue to demonstrate persistence on the list such as Heatlhcare, = Retail,=20 Internet, Computer, Business Services, Electronics, Software and=20 Telecom.
 
Happy Hunting,
Katherine
 
PS=20
You can see a list of stocks on = the 2/20/02=20 list at:
http://<= SPAN=20 class=3D906271822-11012003>cwhcharts.com/katherine/CANSLIMHunting<= SPAN=20 class=3D171303916-23022003>022002.zip
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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C2ED44.0BB2EE30-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dlawson Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03 Date: 18 Mar 2003 14:18:27 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_hdMKR3IovnrcK7n65ks2rA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied bull market rally. He said that a major bull market rally never occurred without a B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have basically thrown a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your answer as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion. Dave --Boundary_(ID_hdMKR3IovnrcK7n65ks2rA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied bull market rally. He said that a major bull market rally never occurred without a B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have basically thrown a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your answer as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion.
Dave
 
--Boundary_(ID_hdMKR3IovnrcK7n65ks2rA)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 18 Mar 2003 16:16:14 EST Tom: I may be shooting from the hip on this, but it seems that Ameritrade is trying to make money on the float. For instance, X sells a stock in the morning; Ameritrade get the money from the sale the same day (for example, through a wire transfer); Ameritrade lets the money work for them until the sale is settled 2-3 days later. This is sort of looks like: A bank not allowing you the cash from a valid check from across town, but rather waiting 10 days before letting you use the increased amount in your account. Anyway, that's the way it appears to me. I can understand a brokerage house not allowing you to buy until your check clears (assuming it hasn't done business with the client before), but not permitting the client to use the proceeds of his sale when the sell is to NASDAQ (I believe that's what the stock-clearing houses are for: To warranty that stocks sales trading in their enviroment will be honored).... That sounds kind of hinky to me, and Ameritrade saying that it is a Fed. Rule sounds kind of duplicitous to me. jans In a message dated 3/16/2003 5:46:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << Jerome, I am not aware of such a new rule, but I have heard this claim before on occasion over the years. The rule is, you must have settled funds on settlement day to pay for a purchase. How those funds get there is of no concern. If sufficient funds are available on settlement day as a result of a sale, the sale was done the same day as the purchase, AND the settlement cycle is the same for both the buy and the sale, then you are covered. >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 18 Mar 2003 16:26:05 -0500 I disagree, I have seen, so far, nothing suggesting that Ameritrade is doing anything differently than any other brokerage house. That is, they are obeying the rules of the Federal Reserve which require a purchase be fully paid, regardless of what you might have done with it since buying it (between trade and settlement date). The only question in my mind is why an account would go under a 90 day restriction prior to any trades, and the only logical answer is that either the notice Jerome received is a poorly worded notice to all new clients sent before acct documents are received, or he is ACATing in an acct from another firm that is already restricted because he violated this Fed Reserve rule. The rule is not new, the restriction procedures are not new. And Ameritrade has no choice in the matter, unless the account has been incorrectly restricted. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:16 PM Tom: I may be shooting from the hip on this, but it seems that Ameritrade is trying to make money on the float. For instance, X sells a stock in the morning; Ameritrade get the money from the sale the same day (for example, through a wire transfer); Ameritrade lets the money work for them until the sale is settled 2-3 days later. This is sort of looks like: A bank not allowing you the cash from a valid check from across town, but rather waiting 10 days before letting you use the increased amount in your account. Anyway, that's the way it appears to me. I can understand a brokerage house not allowing you to buy until your check clears (assuming it hasn't done business with the client before), but not permitting the client to use the proceeds of his sale when the sell is to NASDAQ (I believe that's what the stock-clearing houses are for: To warranty that stocks sales trading in their enviroment will be honored).... That sounds kind of hinky to me, and Ameritrade saying that it is a Fed. Rule sounds kind of duplicitous to me. jans In a message dated 3/16/2003 5:46:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << Jerome, I am not aware of such a new rule, but I have heard this claim before on occasion over the years. The rule is, you must have settled funds on settlement day to pay for a purchase. How those funds get there is of no concern. If sufficient funds are available on settlement day as a result of a sale, the sale was done the same day as the purchase, AND the settlement cycle is the same for both the buy and the sale, then you are covered. >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Gammon" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 18 Mar 2003 15:27:01 -0600 (CST) To the best of my memory, this is NOT a new rule. Its been there for a LONG time. Its the reason that Day Traders were REQUIRED to have margin accounts. Virtually all brokerages have a tutorial on their web site, and available in their offices to explain the use of funds in your account. What has changed from time to time has been the length of time between the trade and settlement. It wasn't all that long ago that it was 5 days instead of the 3 days we have now. Ameritrade may just be beginning a new push to make their customers aware of this rule. This action is not the same as enforcing a new rule. Read up on Reg-T extensions and what happens to your account when such an extension is invoked. Robert Gammon Houston, TX - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 18 Mar 2003 17:29:08 EST Tom & Robert: I think I was, indeed, shooting from the hip. As I understand it now (as you explained it in your 3/17, 11:29 AM E-mail to Canslim, which, in part, says: "...Jerome, perhaps you did not understand my prior reply, but the attachment you posted from Ameritrade does not prohibit you from buying one stock with the proceeds from another sale done the same day. It did inform you that your acct was restricted, as I pointed out, if you had not done any sales, then that is obviously an error. One thing that did occur to me is that you are transferring into Ameritrade an acct from another firm. If that acct is already restricted due to a violation of a Fed call or Reg T call that was not met, or a sale without paying for the purchase, then that restriction travels with the acct on the transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, nor Schwab...."), Jerome bought without his check clearing and then sold what he had bought. Of course, this means he would have used Ameritrade as the risk-taker. However, I could be wrong in this case too (it might not have happened this way). In any event, in order to save my vision from brokerage-speak-fine-print, I think I just want let this subject (at least from my side):Drop! jans - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerome Buckmelter" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 18 Mar 2003 23:53:30 -0800 Just to set the record straight, I have never violated any trading law or ever had my accounts restricted, so that is not the issue. Moreover, Ameritrade admitted that the letter they sent me is a form letter that they send to all who inquire of this matter (see cut-and-paste excerpt below). And again the Client Services staff is telling me that this is a new interpretation from the FRB as of March 13, 2003. Note that the second paragraph states clearly that one cannot purchase a stock from the proceeds from a sale made the same day, and must wait generally three days before reinvesting. I contacted the FRB and the say that one can sell a stock and purchase another one on the same day as long as the purchased stock isn't sold the same day (see the second cut-and-paste excerpt below) from the FRB. So, it is clear that Ameritrade is wrong, but how do they get off restricting one's account, and more importantly what can one do to resolve the issue? Thanks to all who have responded to this thread, your input has been appreciated. Jerome ~~~~~~~~ [Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from Ameritrade:] [begin text]"We are contacting you to explain how recent regulatory guidance we received related to cash accounts will impact your trading activity. "RESTRICTIONS IN CASH ACCOUNTS Under applicable interpretations issued by the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, cash account clients are prohibited from making a practice of selling securities without having paid for their purchase with "cash" available in their account. "Cash" includes existing cash in the account, the proceeds of settled sales of fully-paid for securities, and additional cash deposits. Proceeds of a sale may not be included as "cash" before the settlement date - which is generally three business days."[end text] ~~~~~~~~~ [Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from FRB:] [begin text]"Please note that one can sell a stock and purchase another one that same day with the proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell the second security before the purchase settles. The two staff opinions attached illustrate this concept. 5-616.15 CASH ACCOUNT-Sale and Subsequent Repurchase of a Security A customer has a cash account with fully paid-for securities and no cash. On trade date, the customer instructs the creditor to sell the securities. Later on the same trade date the customer instructs the creditor to repurchase the same issue of securities for the same cost. Each transaction effected in a cash account must be permissible under section 220.8(a) of Regulation T. The sale is permissible under section 220.8(a)(2)(i) of Regulation T, which allows a creditor to sell a security for a customer if "the security is held in the account." The purchase is permissible under section 220.8(a)(1)(ii), which allows a creditor to purchase a security for a customer if "the creditor accepts in good faith the customer's agreement that the customer will promptly make full cash payment for the security or asset before selling it and does not contemplate selling it prior to making such payment." Board staff was asked whether the customer should be deemed a day trader and whether Regulation T requires the customer to pay in full for the purchase with new funds rather than applying the proceeds of the sale of the fully paid-for securities to avoid the imposition of a 90-day freeze pursuant to section 220.8(c). The term "day trader" does not appear in Regulation T, and Board staff believes that the customer is not required to pay for the purchase with new funds if the securities are not resold prior to the settlement date. According to section 220.8(c)(1), the 90-day freeze is triggered "if a nonexempted security in the account is sold or delivered to another broker or dealer without having been previously paid for in full by the customer." The customer in the example has not engaged in this activity. STAFF OP. of Jan. 6, 2000. Authority: 12 CFR 220.8(a) and (c)...." [end text] -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:29 PM Tom & Robert: I think I was, indeed, shooting from the hip. As I understand it now (as you explained it in your 3/17, 11:29 AM E-mail to Canslim, which, in part, says: "...Jerome, perhaps you did not understand my prior reply, but the attachment you posted from Ameritrade does not prohibit you from buying one stock with the proceeds from another sale done the same day. It did inform you that your acct was restricted, as I pointed out, if you had not done any sales, then that is obviously an error. One thing that did occur to me is that you are transferring into Ameritrade an acct from another firm. If that acct is already restricted due to a violation of a Fed call or Reg T call that was not met, or a sale without paying for the purchase, then that restriction travels with the acct on the transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, nor Schwab...."), Jerome bought without his check clearing and then sold what he had bought. Of course, this means he would have used Ameritrade as the risk-taker. However, I could be wrong in this case too (it might not have happened this way). In any event, in order to save my vision from brokerage-speak-fine-print, I think I just want let this subject (at least from my side):Drop! jans - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 19 Mar 2003 06:32:27 -0500 Jerome, I still see nothing below that contradicts what I have been saying. Every purchase must be paid for no later than settlement date (regardless of source of funds). A new purchase can be made against proceeds from a sale, provided that the new purchase will not settle sooner than the sale. A new purchase can be sold prior to settlement, however then the computer will mark the account for a 90 day restriction automatically, which then must be removed manually provided payment is made on the purchase date settlement or sooner. Broker dealers don't like it when you do this as it creates extra work for them, but it's still legal. If payment is not made by settlement of a purchase that has already been sold, no extension of settlement date is permissible, and the account is restricted for 90 days. Once that happens, new purchases can only be made if sufficient "settled" funds are available in the account at the time of purchase. There is nothing new in this, been the Fed Rule for decades. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:53 AM Just to set the record straight, I have never violated any trading law or ever had my accounts restricted, so that is not the issue. Moreover, Ameritrade admitted that the letter they sent me is a form letter that they send to all who inquire of this matter (see cut-and-paste excerpt below). And again the Client Services staff is telling me that this is a new interpretation from the FRB as of March 13, 2003. Note that the second paragraph states clearly that one cannot purchase a stock from the proceeds from a sale made the same day, and must wait generally three days before reinvesting. I contacted the FRB and the say that one can sell a stock and purchase another one on the same day as long as the purchased stock isn't sold the same day (see the second cut-and-paste excerpt below) from the FRB. So, it is clear that Ameritrade is wrong, but how do they get off restricting one's account, and more importantly what can one do to resolve the issue? Thanks to all who have responded to this thread, your input has been appreciated. Jerome ~~~~~~~~ [Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from Ameritrade:] [begin text]"We are contacting you to explain how recent regulatory guidance we received related to cash accounts will impact your trading activity. "RESTRICTIONS IN CASH ACCOUNTS Under applicable interpretations issued by the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, cash account clients are prohibited from making a practice of selling securities without having paid for their purchase with "cash" available in their account. "Cash" includes existing cash in the account, the proceeds of settled sales of fully-paid for securities, and additional cash deposits. Proceeds of a sale may not be included as "cash" before the settlement date - which is generally three business days."[end text] ~~~~~~~~~ [Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from FRB:] [begin text]"Please note that one can sell a stock and purchase another one that same day with the proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell the second security before the purchase settles. The two staff opinions attached illustrate this concept. 5-616.15 CASH ACCOUNT-Sale and Subsequent Repurchase of a Security A customer has a cash account with fully paid-for securities and no cash. On trade date, the customer instructs the creditor to sell the securities. Later on the same trade date the customer instructs the creditor to repurchase the same issue of securities for the same cost. Each transaction effected in a cash account must be permissible under section 220.8(a) of Regulation T. The sale is permissible under section 220.8(a)(2)(i) of Regulation T, which allows a creditor to sell a security for a customer if "the security is held in the account." The purchase is permissible under section 220.8(a)(1)(ii), which allows a creditor to purchase a security for a customer if "the creditor accepts in good faith the customer's agreement that the customer will promptly make full cash payment for the security or asset before selling it and does not contemplate selling it prior to making such payment." Board staff was asked whether the customer should be deemed a day trader and whether Regulation T requires the customer to pay in full for the purchase with new funds rather than applying the proceeds of the sale of the fully paid-for securities to avoid the imposition of a 90-day freeze pursuant to section 220.8(c). The term "day trader" does not appear in Regulation T, and Board staff believes that the customer is not required to pay for the purchase with new funds if the securities are not resold prior to the settlement date. According to section 220.8(c)(1), the 90-day freeze is triggered "if a nonexempted security in the account is sold or delivered to another broker or dealer without having been previously paid for in full by the customer." The customer in the example has not engaged in this activity. STAFF OP. of Jan. 6, 2000. Authority: 12 CFR 220.8(a) and (c)...." [end text] -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:29 PM Tom & Robert: I think I was, indeed, shooting from the hip. As I understand it now (as you explained it in your 3/17, 11:29 AM E-mail to Canslim, which, in part, says: "...Jerome, perhaps you did not understand my prior reply, but the attachment you posted from Ameritrade does not prohibit you from buying one stock with the proceeds from another sale done the same day. It did inform you that your acct was restricted, as I pointed out, if you had not done any sales, then that is obviously an error. One thing that did occur to me is that you are transferring into Ameritrade an acct from another firm. If that acct is already restricted due to a violation of a Fed call or Reg T call that was not met, or a sale without paying for the purchase, then that restriction travels with the acct on the transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, nor Schwab...."), Jerome bought without his check clearing and then sold what he had bought. Of course, this means he would have used Ameritrade as the risk-taker. However, I could be wrong in this case too (it might not have happened this way). In any event, in order to save my vision from brokerage-speak-fine-print, I think I just want let this subject (at least from my side):Drop! jans - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles & Lois Layne" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03 Date: 19 Mar 2003 07:18:55 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2EDE7.CCE6C7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dlawson=20 Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never = said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied bull market rally. He = said that a major bull market rally never occurred without a B.O.! As = for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have basically thrown a = dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your answer = as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion. Dave I don't follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.' I don't believe = that WON has ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market = seasons. Indeed, he is rather specific concerning the futility of = trying to win from CANSLIM in bear markets. Apparently, some try to = find bull-type breakouts, fall prey to bear market dynamics, and then = have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM is dead. No single investment or trading discipline works in every market = dynamic. Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish = another. The disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is = trying to accomplish, what the market & world conditions are, and = applies the best disciplined approach she/he can. If one is applying = only CANSLIM disciplines, then one would be out of a bear market, = researching and waiting for the return of a validated bull market. = That's what I remember from WON, anyway. 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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dlawson=20

Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and = the death=20 of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied = bull=20 market rally. He said that a major bull market rally never occurred = without a=20 B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have = basically thrown=20 a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your = answer as=20 to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion.
Dave
 
 
I don't=20 follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.'  I don't believe that = WON has=20 ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market seasons.  = Indeed, he=20 is rather specific concerning the futility of trying to win from CANSLIM = in bear=20 markets.  Apparently, some try to find bull-type breakouts, fall = prey to=20 bear market dynamics, and then have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM = is=20 dead.
 
No single=20 investment or trading discipline works in every market = dynamic. =20 Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish another.  = The=20 disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is trying to = accomplish,=20 what the market & world conditions are, and applies the best = disciplined=20 approach she/he can.  If one is applying only CANSLIM = disciplines,=20 then one would be out of a bear market, researching and waiting for the = return=20 of a validated bull market.  That's what I remember from WON,=20 anyway.
 
Chuck=20 Layne
 
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2EDE7.CCE6C7E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03 Date: 19 Mar 2003 08:05:24 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2EDEE.4B728170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chuck, essentially I agree. However, that said, CANSLIM is designed to = reduce risk and increase probability of making money for the majority. = It works best in a bull market trend, but it still works (albeit with = more risk, more work and substantially heightened frequency of failure) = for the long term investor even in a continuing bear market such as we = have had. Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking strictly to the = conservative rules designed to enhance probability of success for the = majority of investors with limited investing or CANSLIM experience = dictates being out of the market during a bear trend. For most CANSLIMers, it has been a period of cash and hibernation the = past several years, and maybe for some years yet to come. Some investors = needing / wanting to be in the markets will have to change style and = strategy, converting from investing to day or short term trading. Some = will "reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge in order to trade the = short side of the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on the long = side, but modify the rules of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain less = return even with more work. Bottom line, CANSLIM is not dead by any means, not in this bear market, = not in any past bears, and not likely for future bears as well. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:18 AM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dlawson=20 Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never = said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied bull market rally. He = said that a major bull market rally never occurred without a B.O.! As = for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have basically thrown a = dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your answer = as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion. Dave I don't follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.' I don't believe = that WON has ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market = seasons. Indeed, he is rather specific concerning the futility of = trying to win from CANSLIM in bear markets. Apparently, some try to = find bull-type breakouts, fall prey to bear market dynamics, and then = have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM is dead. No single investment or trading discipline works in every market = dynamic. Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish = another. The disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is = trying to accomplish, what the market & world conditions are, and = applies the best disciplined approach she/he can. If one is applying = only CANSLIM disciplines, then one would be out of a bear market, = researching and waiting for the return of a validated bull market. = That's what I remember from WON, anyway. Chuck Layne ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2EDEE.4B728170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chuck, essentially I agree. However, that said, = CANSLIM is=20 designed to reduce risk and increase probability of making money for the = majority. It works best in a bull market trend, but it still works = (albeit with=20 more risk, more work and substantially heightened frequency of = failure) for=20 the long term investor even in a continuing bear market such as we have = had.=20 Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking strictly to the conservative rules = designed=20 to enhance probability of success for the majority of investors with = limited=20 investing or CANSLIM experience dictates being out of the market during = a bear=20 trend.
 
For most CANSLIMers, it has been a period of = cash and=20 hibernation the past several years, and maybe for some years yet to = come. Some=20 investors needing / wanting to be in the markets will have to change = style and=20 strategy, converting from investing to day or short term trading. Some = will=20 "reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge in order to trade the short = side of=20 the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on the long side, but modify = the rules=20 of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain less return even with more=20 work.
 
Bottom line, CANSLIM is not dead by any means, = not in this=20 bear market, not in any past bears, and not likely for future bears as=20 well.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Charles &=20 Lois Layne
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List = 3/17/03

 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dlawson=20

Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and = the death=20 of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied = bull=20 market rally. He said that a major bull market rally never occurred = without a=20 B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have = basically thrown=20 a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your = answer as=20 to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion.
Dave
 
 
I don't=20 follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.'  I don't believe that = WON has=20 ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market seasons.  = Indeed, he=20 is rather specific concerning the futility of trying to win from CANSLIM = in bear=20 markets.  Apparently, some try to find bull-type breakouts, fall = prey to=20 bear market dynamics, and then have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM = is=20 dead.
 
No single=20 investment or trading discipline works in every market = dynamic. =20 Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish another.  = The=20 disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is trying to = accomplish,=20 what the market & world conditions are, and applies the best = disciplined=20 approach she/he can.  If one is applying only CANSLIM = disciplines,=20 then one would be out of a bear market, researching and waiting for the = return=20 of a validated bull market.  That's what I remember from WON,=20 anyway.
 
Chuck=20 Layne
 
------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2EDEE.4B728170-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Derks?= Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03 Date: 19 Mar 2003 14:37:26 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2EE25.1B24EA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What rules have you modified of CANSLIM in this bear market? -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: woensdag 19 maart 2003 14:05 Chuck, essentially I agree. However, that said, CANSLIM is designed to reduce risk and increase probability of making money for the majority. It works best in a bull market trend, but it still works (albeit with more risk, more work and substantially heightened frequency of failure) for the long term investor even in a continuing bear market such as we have had. Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking strictly to the conservative rules designed to enhance probability of success for the majority of investors with limited investing or CANSLIM experience dictates being out of the market during a bear trend. For most CANSLIMers, it has been a period of cash and hibernation the past several years, and maybe for some years yet to come. Some investors needing / wanting to be in the markets will have to change style and strategy, converting from investing to day or short term trading. Some will "reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge in order to trade the short side of the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on the long side, but modify the rules of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain less return even with more work. Bottom line, CANSLIM is not dead by any means, not in this bear market, not in any past bears, and not likely for future bears as well. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:18 AM ----- Original Message ----- Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied bull market rally. He said that a major bull market rally never occurred without a B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have basically thrown a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your answer as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion. Dave I don't follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.' I don't believe that WON has ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market seasons. Indeed, he is rather specific concerning the futility of trying to win from CANSLIM in bear markets. Apparently, some try to find bull-type breakouts, fall prey to bear market dynamics, and then have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM is dead. No single investment or trading discipline works in every market dynamic. Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish another. The disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is trying to accomplish, what the market & world conditions are, and applies the best disciplined approach she/he can. If one is applying only CANSLIM disciplines, then one would be out of a bear market, researching and waiting for the return of a validated bull market. That's what I remember from WON, anyway. Chuck Layne ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2EE25.1B24EA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What rules have you modified of = CANSLIM in this bear market?

 

---= --Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: woensdag 19 maart = 2003 14:05
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03

 

Chuck, essentially I agree. = However, that said, CANSLIM is designed to reduce risk and increase probability = of making money for the majority. It works best in a bull market trend, but = it still works (albeit with more risk, more work and substantially = heightened frequency of failure) for the long term investor even in a continuing = bear market such as we have had. Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking = strictly to the conservative rules designed to enhance probability of success for = the majority of investors with limited investing or CANSLIM experience = dictates being out of the market during a bear = trend.

 

For most CANSLIMers, it has = been a period of cash and hibernation the past several years, and maybe for = some years yet to come. Some investors needing / wanting to be in the markets will = have to change style and strategy, converting from investing to day or short = term trading. Some will "reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge = in order to trade the short side of the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on = the long side, but modify the rules of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain = less return even with more work.

 

Bottom line, CANSLIM is not = dead by any means, not in this bear market, not in any past bears, and not = likely for future bears as well.

 

----- Original Message = -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:18 AM

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03

 

 

----- Original Message = -----

From: dlawson =

 

Speaking of CANSLIM hunting = lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever = a gaurantied bull market rally. He said that a major bull market rally = never occurred without a B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you = could have basically thrown a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you = would have had your answer as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my = opinion.

Dave

 

 

I don't follow declarations = that CANSLIM is 'dead.'  I don't believe that WON has ever written/said = that CANSLIM will work in all market seasons.  Indeed, he is rather = specific concerning the futility of trying to win from CANSLIM in bear = markets.  Apparently, some try to find bull-type breakouts, fall prey to bear = market dynamics, and then have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM is = dead.

 

No single investment or trading discipline works in every market dynamic.  Sometimes = the market dynamics reward one style and punish another.  The = disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is trying to accomplish, what = the market & world conditions are, and applies the best disciplined approach she/he can.  If one is applying only CANSLIM = disciplines, then one would be out of a bear market, researching and waiting for the = return of a validated bull market.  That's what I remember from WON, = anyway.

 

Chuck = Layne

 

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2EE25.1B24EA80-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 3/17/03 Date: 19 Mar 2003 09:01:01 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C2EDF6.1076BCF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CANSLIM originally was a small to mid cap system, with heavy emphasis on = earnings growth. Over the past 5-7 years, WON modified it to include = large caps, even ones with strong sales growth but not yet profitable. I = didn't shift with that change, so guess I am in that regard just old = fashioned. I also look well below the $12-15 minimum price, as low as even under a = dollar, altho that is extremely risky these days, as they will likely be = delisted from Nasdaq if they don't get over $1.00. I also look at very = small companies, some with market caps as small as $20-30 million. I do = not exclude stocks based on liquidity, my minimum for screening is 1,000 = shares daily. I also don't look at high priced stocks, but have modified = that in past months. Before I only looked up to $20/share, I have raised = that limit to $24 and occasionally look even higher. I am only focused = on tech stocks, both because I can understand them better, and because I = believe they offer the best chance of earnings growth greater than = market trends.=20 For years, I have bought prior to the b/o, primarily because I did not = have time to watch stocks during the day. That is not new for me, but = certainly a violation of CANSLIM rules. I set my mental or hard stop = loss below the bottom of the basing formation (flat line, handle, etc.) = even if that means more than an 8% loss. I don't sell at a 20% gain = (which is only a CANSLIM beginners rule anyway), rather using the = charts, trends, my knowledge and experience, and my personal rules of = thumb to set upside sell targets. I also set my EPS ranking at 50 or so, = and pay more attention to whether the trend of earnings growth suggests = it will soon (within a year) be ranked over 80. Until some months ago, I only looked at stocks breaking new highs. To = this end, I kept my RS screening criteria quite high, normally needing = 90 or better. I started using lists of stocks moving over their 200 dma, = so have also given the RS ranking more liberal criteria, putting more = attention in these cases on the chart formation and fundamentals. I am sure there are a lot more adjustments I have made than I am = thinking of at the moment, some I probably do as much from instinct and = experience as from conscious mental practice, but this will give you = some "flavor" anyway. My lack of time has cost me mostly in the area of = due diligence, which used to be very rigorous. Nowadays, it is often = pretty superficial, but this is not by choice, purely due lack of time. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:37 AM What rules have you modified of CANSLIM in this bear market? =20 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: woensdag 19 maart 2003 14:05 =20 Chuck, essentially I agree. However, that said, CANSLIM is designed to = reduce risk and increase probability of making money for the majority. = It works best in a bull market trend, but it still works (albeit with = more risk, more work and substantially heightened frequency of failure) = for the long term investor even in a continuing bear market such as we = have had. Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking strictly to the = conservative rules designed to enhance probability of success for the = majority of investors with limited investing or CANSLIM experience = dictates being out of the market during a bear trend. =20 For most CANSLIMers, it has been a period of cash and hibernation the = past several years, and maybe for some years yet to come. Some investors = needing / wanting to be in the markets will have to change style and = strategy, converting from investing to day or short term trading. Some = will "reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge in order to trade the = short side of the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on the long = side, but modify the rules of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain less = return even with more work. =20 Bottom line, CANSLIM is not dead by any means, not in this bear market, = not in any past bears, and not likely for future bears as well. =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:18 AM =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dlawson=20 =20 Speaking of CANSLIM hunting lists and the death of CANSLIM. Won never = said that a B.O.(breakout) was ever a gaurantied bull market rally. He = said that a major bull market rally never occurred without a B.O.! As = for picking a stock, as of this rally you could have basically thrown a = dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you would have had your answer = as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my opinion. Dave =20 =20 I don't follow declarations that CANSLIM is 'dead.' I don't believe = that WON has ever written/said that CANSLIM will work in all market = seasons. Indeed, he is rather specific concerning the futility of = trying to win from CANSLIM in bear markets. Apparently, some try to = find bull-type breakouts, fall prey to bear market dynamics, and then = have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM is dead. =20 No single investment or trading discipline works in every market = dynamic. Sometimes the market dynamics reward one style and punish = another. The disciplined investor or trader recognizes what he/she is = trying to accomplish, what the market & world conditions are, and = applies the best disciplined approach she/he can. If one is applying = only CANSLIM disciplines, then one would be out of a bear market, = researching and waiting for the return of a validated bull market. = That's what I remember from WON, anyway. =20 Chuck Layne =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C2EDF6.1076BCF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
CANSLIM originally was a small to mid cap = system, with=20 heavy emphasis on earnings growth. Over the past 5-7 years, WON modified = it to=20 include large caps, even ones with strong sales growth but not yet = profitable. I=20 didn't shift with that change, so guess I am in that regard just old=20 fashioned.
 
I also look well below the $12-15 minimum price, = as low as=20 even under a dollar, altho that is extremely risky these days, as they = will=20 likely be delisted from Nasdaq if they don't get over $1.00. I also look = at very=20 small companies, some with market caps as small as $20-30 million. I do = not=20 exclude stocks based on liquidity, my minimum for screening is 1,000 = shares=20 daily. I also don't look at high priced stocks, but have modified that = in past=20 months. Before I only looked up to $20/share, I have raised that limit = to $24=20 and occasionally look even higher. I am only focused on tech stocks, = both=20 because I can understand them better, and because I believe they offer = the best=20 chance of earnings growth greater than market trends.
 
For years, I have bought prior to the b/o, = primarily=20 because I did not have time to watch stocks during the day. That is not = new for=20 me, but certainly a violation of CANSLIM rules. I set my mental or hard = stop=20 loss below the bottom of the basing formation (flat line, handle, etc.) = even if=20 that means more than an 8% loss. I don't sell at a 20% gain (which is = only a=20 CANSLIM beginners rule anyway), rather using the charts, trends, my = knowledge=20 and experience, and my personal rules of thumb to set upside sell = targets. I=20 also set my EPS ranking at 50 or so, and pay more attention to whether = the trend=20 of earnings growth suggests it will soon (within a year) be ranked over=20 80.
 
Until some months ago, I only looked at stocks = breaking=20 new highs. To this end, I kept my RS screening criteria quite high, = normally=20 needing 90 or better. I started using lists of stocks moving over their = 200 dma,=20 so have also given the RS ranking more liberal criteria, putting more = attention=20 in these cases on the chart formation and fundamentals.
 
I am sure there are a lot more adjustments I = have made=20 than I am thinking of at the moment, some I probably do as much from = instinct=20 and experience as from conscious mental practice, but this will give you = some=20 "flavor" anyway. My lack of time has cost me mostly in the area of due=20 diligence, which used to be very rigorous. Nowadays, it is often pretty=20 superficial, but this is not by choice, purely due lack of = time.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: S=E9bastien = Derks
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List = 3/17/03

What rules = have you=20 modified of CANSLIM in this bear market?

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On=20 Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: woensdag 19 maart 2003=20 14:05
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM = Hunting List=20 3/17/03

 

Chuck, essentially I = agree. However,=20 that said, CANSLIM is designed to reduce risk and increase probability = of making=20 money for the majority. It works best in a bull market trend, but it = still works=20 (albeit with more risk, more work and substantially heightened = frequency of=20 failure) for the long term investor even in a continuing bear market = such as we=20 have had. Pure CANSLIM won't do this, sticking strictly to the = conservative=20 rules designed to enhance probability of success for the majority of = investors=20 with limited investing or CANSLIM experience dictates being out of the = market=20 during a bear trend.

 

For most CANSLIMers, it = has been a=20 period of cash and hibernation the past several years, and maybe for = some years=20 yet to come. Some investors needing / wanting to be in the markets will = have to=20 change style and strategy, converting from investing to day or short = term=20 trading. Some will "reinvent" CANSLIM, and use it as a gauge in order to = trade=20 the short side of the markets. Some, like myself, will stay on the long = side,=20 but modify the rules of CANSLIM, take more risk, and obtain less return = even=20 with more work.

 

Bottom line, CANSLIM is = not dead by=20 any means, not in this bear market, not in any past bears, and not = likely for=20 future bears as well.

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Charles &=20 Lois Layne

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20

Sent: Wednesday,=20 March 19, 2003 7:18 AM

Subject: Re:=20 [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List = 3/17/03

 

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: dlawson=20

 

Speaking of CANSLIM = hunting lists=20 and the death of CANSLIM. Won never said that a B.O.(breakout) was = ever a=20 gaurantied bull market rally. He said that a major bull market rally = never=20 occurred without a B.O.! As for picking a stock, as of this rally you = could=20 have basically thrown a dart at any decent CANSLIM watch list and you = would=20 have had your answer as to weather CANSLIM was dead or not.Just my=20 opinion.

Dave

 

 

I don't follow = declarations that=20 CANSLIM is 'dead.'  I don't believe that WON has ever written/said = that=20 CANSLIM will work in all market seasons.  Indeed, he is rather = specific=20 concerning the futility of trying to win from CANSLIM in bear = markets. =20 Apparently, some try to find bull-type breakouts, fall prey to bear = market=20 dynamics, and then have the audacity to declare that CANSLIM is=20 dead.

 

No single investment or=20 trading discipline works in every market dynamic.  Sometimes = the=20 market dynamics reward one style and punish another.  The = disciplined=20 investor or trader recognizes what he/she is trying to accomplish, what = the=20 market & world conditions are, and applies the best disciplined=20 approach she/he can.  If one is applying only CANSLIM = disciplines,=20 then one would be out of a bear market, researching and waiting for the = return=20 of a validated bull market.  That's what I remember from WON,=20 anyway.

 

Chuck=20 Layne

 

------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C2EDF6.1076BCF0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Duane Runnels" Subject: [CANSLIM] many newbie questions about Industry Groups Date: 19 Mar 2003 10:41:05 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C2EE04.0B59A760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to figure out the importance of Industry Groups. WON says = pick a leader in a top 20% group and that half of a stock's performance = is related to its group. WON also says pick from the top 6 groups = making new highs. (IBD Rule #11). =20 Is it a valid screen then to start by looking only at the top 40 groups, = find the leaders, and then check for RS and EPS, etc? There doesn't seem to be a lot of discussion here about industry groups, = although there have been several posts recently. Do you consider group = strength then as a secondary factor? It is not part of CANSLIM is it? = Some of you even invest only in certain sectors. =20 I particularly liked Katherine's posts regarding researching groups = showing new rising strength. I watch the Industry Groups table and the = list changes dramatically from one month to the next. Is this a bear = aberation or normal? =20 =20 How much of a group's strength is dependent on one stock's performance? = If this is the case, isn't group performance a misnomer? Also I see = that certain groups have a lot of new highs, but also a lot of new lows. = Is this just a reflection of today's market conditions? In short, how much attention do you pay to the industry group and = why?THANKS. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C2EE04.0B59A760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I=92m trying to figure out = the importance=20 of Industry Groups.  WON says=20 pick a leader in a top 20% group and that half of a stock=92s = performance is=20 related to its group.  WON = also says=20 pick from the top 6 groups making new highs. (IBD Rule = #11).

 

Is it a valid screen then = to start by=20 looking only at the top 40 groups, find the leaders, and then check for = RS and=20 EPS, etc?

There doesn't seem to be a = lot of=20 discussion here about industry groups, although there have been several = posts=20 recently.  Do you consider = group=20 strength then as a secondary factor?  It is not part of CANSLIM is=20 it?  Some of you even invest only in certain = sectors.

 

I particularly liked = Katherine=92s posts=20 regarding researching groups showing new rising strength. I watch the = Industry=20 Groups table and the list changes dramatically from one month to the = next.  Is this a bear aberation or = normal? 

 

How much of a group=92s = strength is=20 dependent on one stock=92s performance? =20 If this is the case, isn=92t group performance a misnomer?  Also I see that certain groups = have a=20 lot of new highs, but also a lot of new lows.  Is this just a reflection of = today=92s=20 market conditions?

 

In short, how much = attention do you pay=20 to the industry group and why?THANKS.

------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C2EE04.0B59A760-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] many newbie questions about Industry Groups Date: 19 Mar 2003 10:24:47 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_034E_01C2EE01.C4040150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Duane, I have always preferred the 'tops-down' approach because it = reduces the size of my watchlist to a manageable size. Here are some = recent findings: 1. Attended a 2-day VectorVest investment seminar (3/8-3/9) and watched = while they did a scan of the entire VectorVest data base using one of = the 'canned' strategies... they performed a short backtest to see = appreciation of the top 10 (returned from the scan) and got XX% return. = They then added a criteria to only scan stocks that were only in the top = XX industries and then performed the same backtest and in all cases = (about 5 demos) the results were significantly higher (I'm still = deciphering my notes so don't have the exact numbers at my finger tips). 2. Have several friends that purchased the CNBC investment course = ($3500) where they tout 'tops-down'. I've watched the tapes and can't = help but smile when the instructor shows them how to use the process to = find stocks to trade. The process being: market direction; industry = Groups: stock selection. He CAUTIONS against a 'bottoms-up' approach = because he doesn't want them to find good stocks with bad industry = ratings. He said "avoid temptation". CNBC teaches them how to find = industries just coming into favor (red to yellow to green) for longs = and/or for the bearish outlook (green to yellow to red). 3. As you can see by the following, HGSI has some recent data supporting = selecting stocks from strong industry groups: ****************************************************** Market Report - 03/15/03 Brought to you by Industry Monitors, Inc. Hi Gene, Ron Brown is chuckling this week. Find out why. This week Ron uses the Weekend Review filter to find promising stocks. Here is a brief review of his findings and analysis: Of the 41 stocks, 19 have a green group rank, 11 have a yellow group rank, 10 have a red group rank. The green group index gained 5.8 percent for the week, the yellow group index gained 4.1 percent for the week, and the red group index gained only 2 percent for the week. This indicates that when the market turns up on volume, money flows into the strongest stocks in the strongest groups before it flows into the strongest stocks in the weakest groups. The lesson is to buy good quality stocks in strong groups during a market rally. Read more of Ron Brown's FREE weekly market report with charts: http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030315.pdf Hope that this was of some value, Gene =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Duane Runnels=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:41 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] many newbie questions about Industry Groups I'm trying to figure out the importance of Industry Groups. WON says = pick a leader in a top 20% group and that half of a stock's performance = is related to its group. WON also says pick from the top 6 groups = making new highs. (IBD Rule #11). =20 Is it a valid screen then to start by looking only at the top 40 = groups, find the leaders, and then check for RS and EPS, etc? There doesn't seem to be a lot of discussion here about industry = groups, although there have been several posts recently. Do you = consider group strength then as a secondary factor? It is not part of = CANSLIM is it? Some of you even invest only in certain sectors. =20 I particularly liked Katherine's posts regarding researching groups = showing new rising strength. I watch the Industry Groups table and the = list changes dramatically from one month to the next. Is this a bear = aberation or normal? =20 =20 How much of a group's strength is dependent on one stock's = performance? If this is the case, isn't group performance a misnomer? = Also I see that certain groups have a lot of new highs, but also a lot = of new lows. Is this just a reflection of today's market conditions? In short, how much attention do you pay to the industry group and = why?THANKS. ------=_NextPart_000_034E_01C2EE01.C4040150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Duane, I have always preferred the = 'tops-down'=20 approach because it reduces the size of my watchlist to a manageable = size.=20 Here are some recent = findings:
 
1. Attended a 2-day VectorVest = investment=20 seminar (3/8-3/9) and watched while they did a scan of the entire = VectorVest=20 data base using one of the 'canned' strategies... they performed a short = backtest to see appreciation of the top 10 (returned from the scan) and = got XX%=20 return. They then added a criteria to only scan stocks that were only in = the top=20 XX industries and then  performed the same backtest and in all = cases=20 (about 5 demos) the results were significantly higher (I'm still = deciphering my=20 notes so don't have the exact numbers at my finger = tips).
2. Have several friends that purchased = the CNBC=20 investment course ($3500) where they tout 'tops-down'. I've watched the = tapes=20 and can't help but smile when the instructor  shows them how to use = the=20 process to find stocks to trade. The process being: market = direction;=20 industry Groups: stock selection. He CAUTIONS against a 'bottoms-up' = approach=20 because he doesn't want them to find good stocks with bad industry = ratings. He=20 said "avoid temptation". CNBC teaches them how to find industries = just=20 coming into favor (red to yellow to green) for longs and/or for the = bearish=20 outlook (green to yellow to red).
3. As you can see by the following, = HGSI has=20 some recent data supporting  selecting stocks from strong = industry=20 groups:
 
 
******************************************************

Mark= et=20 Report - 03/15/03
Brought to you by Industry Monitors, = Inc.


Hi=20 Gene,

Ron Brown is chuckling this week.  Find out = why.

This=20 week Ron uses the Weekend Review filter to find promising = stocks.
Here is a=20 brief review of his findings and analysis:

Of the 41 stocks, 19 = have a=20 green group rank, 11 have a yellow group
rank, 10 have a red group=20 rank.

The green group index gained 5.8 percent for the week, the = yellow=20 group
index gained 4.1 percent for the week, and the red group index=20 gained
only 2 percent for the week.  This indicates that when = the market=20 turns
up on volume, money flows into the strongest stocks in the=20 strongest
groups before it flows into the strongest stocks in the = weakest=20 groups.
The lesson is to buy good quality stocks in strong groups = during=20 a
market rally.


Read more of Ron Brown's FREE weekly = market report=20 with charts:
http://www.highgrowthstock.com/WeeklyReports/rpt/20030315.pdf
 
Hope that this was of some = value,
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Duane = Runnels=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 = 9:41=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] many newbie = questions=20 about Industry Groups

I=92m trying to figure = out the=20 importance of Industry Groups.  WON says pick a leader = in a top=20 20% group and that half of a stock=92s performance is related to its = group.  WON also says pick from the = top 6=20 groups making new highs. (IBD Rule #11).

 

Is it a valid screen then = to start by=20 looking only at the top 40 groups, find the leaders, and then check = for RS and=20 EPS, etc?

There doesn't seem to be = a lot of=20 discussion here about industry groups, although there have been = several posts=20 recently.  Do you = consider group=20 strength then as a secondary factor?  It is not part of CANSLIM = is=20 it?  Some of you even invest only in certain = sectors.

 

I particularly liked = Katherine=92s=20 posts regarding researching groups showing new rising strength. I = watch the=20 Industry Groups table and the list changes dramatically from one month = to the=20 next.  Is this a bear = aberation or=20 normal? =20

 

How much of a group=92s = strength is=20 dependent on one stock=92s performance? =20 If this is the case, isn=92t group performance a misnomer?  Also I see that certain = groups have a=20 lot of new highs, but also a lot of new lows.  Is this just a reflection of = today=92s=20 market conditions?

 

In short, how much = attention do you=20 pay to the industry group and why?THANKS.

------=_NextPart_000_034E_01C2EE01.C4040150-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 19 Mar 2003 12:38:55 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_049D_01C2EE14.80FFCE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome, brokers must follow the requirements of FRB but that doesn't = mean that they can't implement tighter requirements. For example, many = brokers (including Schwab) limit the type of options that can be traded = in an IRA (in Schwab's case covered calls) while many others like = OptionsXpress.com "allow prudent trading of options in IRAs based on = your individual suitability. At this time, based on industry = regulations, trading in IRAs includes call buying, put buying, cash = secured put writing, spreads, and covered calls. Naked puts and naked = calls are not currently allowed in IRAs."=20 As painful as it may be, my recommendation is to find a broker that = meets your needs. A "work-around' might be to have a small reserve and buy a 1/4 to 1/2 of = what you would normally buy and add to the positions when additional = funds are available.=20 Good luck, Gene =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerome Buckmelter=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:53 AM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Just to set the record straight, I have never violated any trading law or ever had my accounts restricted, so that is not the issue. = Moreover, Ameritrade admitted that the letter they sent me is a form letter that they send to all who inquire of this matter (see cut-and-paste excerpt below). And again the Client Services staff is telling me that this is = a new interpretation from the FRB as of March 13, 2003. Note that the second paragraph states clearly that one cannot purchase a stock from the proceeds from a sale made the same day, and must wait generally three days before reinvesting. I contacted the FRB and the say that = one can sell a stock and purchase another one on the same day as long as = the purchased stock isn't sold the same day (see the second cut-and-paste excerpt below) from the FRB. So, it is clear that Ameritrade is = wrong, but how do they get off restricting one's account, and more = importantly what can one do to resolve the issue? Thanks to all who have = responded to this thread, your input has been appreciated. Jerome ~~~~~~~~ [Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from Ameritrade:] [begin text]"We are contacting you to explain how recent regulatory guidance we received related to cash accounts will impact your trading activity.=20 "RESTRICTIONS IN CASH ACCOUNTS Under applicable interpretations issued by the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, cash account clients are prohibited from making a practice of selling securities without having paid for their purchase with "cash" available in their account. "Cash" includes existing cash in the account, the proceeds of settled sales = of fully-paid for securities, and additional cash deposits. Proceeds of a sale may not be included as "cash" before the settlement date - which = is generally three business days."[end text]=20 ~~~~~~~~~ [Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from FRB:] [begin text]"Please note that one can sell a stock and purchase = another one that same day with the=20 proceeds, provided that one does not intend to sell the second = security before the=20 purchase settles. The two staff opinions attached illustrate this concept. 5-616.15 CASH ACCOUNT-Sale and Subsequent Repurchase of a Security A customer has a cash account with fully paid-for securities and no cash. On trade=20 date, the customer instructs the creditor to sell the securities. = Later on the same=20 trade date the customer instructs the creditor to repurchase the same issue of=20 securities for the same cost. Each transaction effected in a cash account must be permissible under section=20 220.8(a) of Regulation T. The sale is permissible under section 220.8(a)(2)(i) of=20 Regulation T, which allows a creditor to sell a security for a = customer if "the=20 security is held in the account." The purchase is permissible under section=20 220.8(a)(1)(ii), which allows a creditor to purchase a security for a customer if=20 "the creditor accepts in good faith the customer's agreement that the customer will=20 promptly make full cash payment for the security or asset before = selling it and does=20 not contemplate selling it prior to making such payment." Board staff was asked whether the customer should be deemed a day = trader and whether=20 Regulation T requires the customer to pay in full for the purchase = with new funds=20 rather than applying the proceeds of the sale of the fully paid-for securities to=20 avoid the imposition of a 90-day freeze pursuant to section 220.8(c). The term "day=20 trader" does not appear in Regulation T, and Board staff believes that the customer=20 is not required to pay for the purchase with new funds if the = securities are not=20 resold prior to the settlement date. According to section 220.8(c)(1), the 90-day=20 freeze is triggered "if a nonexempted security in the account is sold = or delivered to=20 another broker or dealer without having been previously paid for in = full by the=20 customer." The customer in the example has not engaged in this = activity. STAFF OP. of=20 Jan. 6, 2000. Authority: 12 CFR 220.8(a) and (c)...." [end text] -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of = Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:29 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Tom & Robert: I think I was, indeed, shooting from the hip. As I understand it now (as you explained it in your 3/17, 11:29 = AM=20 E-mail to Canslim, which, in part, says: "...Jerome, perhaps you did not=20 understand my prior reply, but the attachment you posted from = Ameritrade does=20 not prohibit you from buying one stock with the proceeds from another sale=20 done the same day. It did inform you that your acct was restricted, as = I pointed out, if you had not done any sales, then that is obviously an error.=20 One thing that did occur to me is that you are transferring into Ameritrade=20 an acct from another firm. If that acct is already restricted due to a = violation of a Fed call or Reg T call that was not met, or a sale without=20 paying for the purchase, then that restriction travels with the acct = on the=20 transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve rule, not Ameritrade, nor Schwab...."),=20 Jerome bought without his check clearing and then sold what he had bought. =20 Of course, this means he would have used Ameritrade as the risk-taker. However, I could be wrong in this case too (it might not have happened=20 this way). In any event, in order to save my vision from=20 brokerage-speak-fine-print, I think I just want let this subject (at least=20 from my side):Drop! jans =20 - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Jerome, brokers must follow the=20 requirements of FRB but that doesn't mean that they can't implement = tighter=20 requirements. For example, many brokers (including Schwab) limit = the type=20 of options that can be traded in an IRA (in Schwab's case covered = calls)=20 while many others like OptionsXpress.com "allow prudent trading of options in IRAs based = on your=20 individual suitability. At this time, based on industry regulations, = trading in=20 IRAs includes call buying, put buying, cash secured put writing, = spreads, and=20 covered calls. Naked puts and naked calls are not currently allowed in = IRAs."=20
 
As painful as it may be, my = recommendation is to=20 find a broker that meets your needs.
 
A "work-around' might be to have = a small=20 reserve and buy a 1/4 to 1/2 of what you would normally buy and add = to the=20 positions when additional funds are available. 
 
Good luck,
Gene
   
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jerome=20 Buckmelter
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 = 1:53=20 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] New NASD = trading=20 restrictions?

Just to set the record straight, I have never violated = any=20 trading law
or ever had my accounts restricted, so that is not the=20 issue.  Moreover,
Ameritrade admitted that the letter they = sent me is=20 a form letter that
they send to all who inquire of this matter (see = cut-and-paste excerpt
below). And again the Client Services staff = is=20 telling me that this is a
new interpretation from the FRB as of = March 13,=20 2003.  Note that the
second paragraph states clearly that one = cannot=20 purchase a stock from
the proceeds from a sale made the same day, = and must=20 wait generally
three days before reinvesting.  I contacted the = FRB and=20 the say that one
can sell a stock and purchase another one on the = same day=20 as long as the
purchased stock isn't sold the same day (see the = second=20 cut-and-paste
excerpt below) from the FRB.  So, it is clear = that=20 Ameritrade is wrong,
but how do they get off restricting one's = account, and=20 more importantly
what can one do to resolve the issue?  Thanks = to all=20 who have responded
to this thread, your input has been = appreciated. =20 Jerome
~~~~~~~~
[Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from=20 Ameritrade:]
[begin text]"We are contacting you to explain how = recent=20 regulatory
guidance we received related to cash accounts will = impact your=20 trading
activity.

"RESTRICTIONS IN CASH ACCOUNTS
Under=20 applicable interpretations issued by the staff of the Board = of
Governors of=20 the Federal Reserve System, cash account clients are
prohibited = from making=20 a practice of selling securities without having
paid for their = purchase=20 with "cash" available in their account. "Cash"
includes existing = cash in=20 the account, the proceeds of settled sales of
fully-paid for = securities,=20 and additional cash deposits. Proceeds of a
sale may not be = included as=20 "cash" before the settlement date - which is
generally three = business=20 days."[end text]
~~~~~~~~~
[Below is cut-and-paste excerpt from = FRB:]
[begin text]"Please note that one can sell a stock and = purchase=20 another
one that same day with the
proceeds, provided that one = does not=20 intend to sell the second security
before the
purchase = settles. =20 The two staff opinions attached illustrate=20 this
concept.


 5-616.15
CASH ACCOUNT-Sale and = Subsequent=20 Repurchase of a Security
A customer has a cash account with fully = paid-for=20 securities and no
cash. On trade
date, the customer instructs = the=20 creditor to sell the securities. Later
on the same
trade date = the=20 customer instructs the creditor to repurchase the same
issue of=20
securities for the same cost.
Each transaction effected in a = cash=20 account must be permissible under
section
220.8(a) of = Regulation T. The=20 sale is permissible under section
220.8(a)(2)(i) of
Regulation = T, which=20 allows a creditor to sell a security for a customer
if "the =
security is=20 held in the account." The purchase is permissible under
section=20
220.8(a)(1)(ii), which allows a creditor to purchase a security = for=20 a
customer if
"the creditor accepts in good faith the = customer's=20 agreement that the
customer will
promptly make full cash = payment for=20 the security or asset before selling
it and does
not = contemplate=20 selling it prior to making such payment."
Board staff was asked = whether the=20 customer should be deemed a day trader
and whether
Regulation T = requires the customer to pay in full for the purchase with
new = funds=20
rather than applying the proceeds of the sale of the fully=20 paid-for
securities to
avoid the imposition of a 90-day freeze = pursuant=20 to section 220.8(c).
The term "day
trader" does not appear in=20 Regulation T, and Board staff believes that
the customer
is not = required to pay for the purchase with new funds if the = securities
are not=20
resold prior to the settlement date. According to section=20 220.8(c)(1),
the 90-day
freeze is triggered "if a nonexempted = security=20 in the account is sold or
delivered to
another broker or dealer = without=20 having been previously paid for in full
by the
customer." The = customer=20 in the example has not engaged in this activity.
STAFF OP. of =
Jan. 6,=20 2000.
Authority: 12 CFR 220.8(a) and (c)...." [end=20 text]



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com
Sent:=20 Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:29 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20 Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions?

Tom &=20 Robert:

     I think I was, indeed, = shooting from=20 the hip.

     As I understand it now (as = you=20 explained it in your 3/17, 11:29 AM
E-mail to Canslim, which, in = part,=20 says:  "...Jerome, perhaps you did
not
understand my prior = reply,=20 but the attachment you posted from Ameritrade
does
not prohibit = you=20 from buying one stock with the proceeds from another
sale
done = the same=20 day. It did inform you that your acct was restricted, as = I

pointed out,=20 if you had not done any sales, then that is obviously an
error. =
One=20 thing that did occur to me is that you are transferring = into
Ameritrade=20
an acct from another firm. If that acct is already restricted due = to a=20
violation of a Fed call or Reg T call that was not met, or a=20 sale
without
paying for the purchase, then that restriction = travels=20 with the acct on
the
transfer, since that is a Fed Reserve = rule, not=20 Ameritrade, nor
Schwab...."),
Jerome bought without his check = clearing=20 and then sold what he had
bought. 
Of course, this means = he would=20 have used Ameritrade as the = risk-taker.

    =20 However, I could be wrong in this case too (it might not = have
happened=20
this way).  In any event, in order to save my vision from=20
brokerage-speak-fine-print, I think I just want let this subject=20 (at
least
from my=20 side):Drop!

jans

     =

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-To=20 subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"
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-To = subscribe/unsubscribe, email=20 "majordomo@xmission.com"
-In= =20 the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
-"unsubscribe = canslim". =20 Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_049D_01C2EE14.80FFCE80-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] many newbie questions about Industry Groups Date: 19 Mar 2003 15:12:00 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2EE29.E42EFE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Duane, Wow...now those are some high quality newbie questions! The notion of industry group movement has many dimensions, some of it preference, some of it logic. I think at the core, there are some important questions and assumptions. (1) What makes a group a group? No question that this is the biggest question of them all. When studies claim that the "movement of the group contributes 50% to the move" or something equivalent, what group are they talking about? Is it stocks with the same primary SIC code? Stocks serving essentially the same business segment? Stocks that are economically cyclical vs. growth oriented? Stocks that are direct competitors? Stocks that are representative of a business segment benefitting from a common economic cycle, a common technological innovation, a common supportive legislative action? Etc. In other words, you can "group" stocks in any combination and make a statement about "the group"....problem is that from one data source to another, there is little similarity in both the number of groups and in the composition of the group. The IBD tries to do the best job it can at parsing stocks into meaningful groups, but you are still left with groups that have 7 members and others with 207. In some cases, direct competitors don't even fall within the *same* group. If you average activity of the "group", does it say the same thing in a group that has 7 stocks as it does for one with 207? (2) How is the group move measured (time period, averages across price or other metrics, etc.)? If you're ranking a group of stocks, over what period is the ranking done? 3 months? 6 months? 12 months? 25 years? You can make statements about a group, but the timeframe will make a world of difference in determining which group is a "top" group. How is the group ranking derived? If it is price action, is it measured equally across all time periods? Is it weighted from one period to the next? If it is based on average price across a group, how does the variation in prices within the group affect the average? Is it ranked based on other technical measurements? Etc. Again, you could take the same group of stocks and depending on how the ranking is done, a group can fall in the top half or the bottom half of the rankings. Same stocks, different results. (3) What makes a group a leading group? Even if you make reasonable assumptions in questions 1 and 2 for a particular investing style, you're still left with the most important question of all. How does a group *become* a leading group? It *becomes* a leading group because one or more stocks in the group begin to rise from the ashes. As those stocks "outperform" (in whatever measure of outperformance one designates) the *average* for the group measurement rises. As that average rises, the group becomes a "leading" or "top" group. Think about the implications of that, however. That is, the movement of the individual components leads to a higher group measurement. That may attract attention from a trading or economic perspective, but there's no doubt that the underlying fundamentals, economics, innovations, etc. that drew money to the leading stocks drove the group as a whole. It doesn't take a lot of rocket science to know that when a group is down in the dumps, the same holds true in reverse. Money isn't taken away from a group because the group in in the dumpers, the group is in the dumpers because money is taken out of it, driving the average for the group down. Chicken and egg stuff, but important when thinking about those studies that tell you "if you put your money in leading groups, your returns are better." To that, I say a big DUH. Groups are at the bottom because the individual stocks that comprise the group are technically in the dumpers. In CANSLIM investing in particular, the idea is to focus on *strength* and to avoid *laggard* stocks. WON has never said to buy "only" from the top 25% of groups. He says, that "on average, stocks in the top 50 or 100 groups perform better than those in the bottom 100."* ON AVERAGE. He says to focus the *majority* of your buying from within these top groups so that you raise the odds of success and so that you can benefit from the follow on effect. At the same time, however, he repeatedly says to look for leading stocks showing outperformance and that are *leading* the industry move. This is where there is the most bang for the buck. From Investor's Corner 10/26/99 "The logic here is to jump in when the group breaks a downtrend, or rises above a base and heads for new high ground. But for the investor in search of only the best stocks, this strategy is flawed. When a sector breaks out, its top dogs will have already raced ahead of the pack." From Ask Bill 7/02 "Studies show that 37% of a stock's price movement is directly tied to the performance of its industry group. Another 12% is due to strength in its overall sector. Therefore, roughly half of a stock's move is due to the strength of its respective industry. But note that just because the relative strength of the group is on the low side, does not necessarily mean the group is bad. Sometimes, there are only a few true leaders in a group. If the group happens to be large or its is just beginning a move, the group relative strength rating may be skewed to the low side." A similar Ask Bill was published 3/11/03. "[K]eep in mind that emerging leaders may be farther down the industry group rankings." In practical terms, that means there are 2 complementary approaches to using industry group information: top down and bottoms up. I don't think it matters where you start, but you need to do *BOTH*. I prefer bottoms up as a core practice, using industry analysis (top down) as a secondary mining technique. But I have always performed both. Bottoms Up-- A methodical approach to finding individual stocks that are outperforming the market, their industry brethren and/or their direct competitors. Picked up at the appropriate time, you get the full move in leading stocks. Industry analysis is used as a confirming indicator of the move. This is the opportunity to check that there is at least one other direct competitor or industry brethren that is showing high relative strength. Look for indications that the group as a whole may be rolling over. That is, the laggard stocks have already begun to falter and/or fail. Leading stocks will be the last to roll over, so this is where you can pick up on clues that an impending breakout may fail. Mining for this also includes mining in *rising* rather than *top* industry groups. Top Down--Skim the top industry groups to see which are continuing a strong move up vs those that are starting to fail and soon will be moving down in the rankings. Review the stocks within the group to find which are currently setting up for a fresh breakout. Better if these are breakouts from 1st or 2nd stage bases. If the leaders are putting in a consolidation in a 3rd or 4th stage base and the laggards are starting to roll over....look out below! There are ways to streamline these processes so that this can be done efficiently and quickly-- narrow down the list of potential candidates based on a meaningful combination of technicals/fundamentals, use a fast charting service with the essential indicators, flip through the charts or key technical indicators of the stocks within the industry, methodically mine for stocks day to day as technical indicators show that they are setting up for a potential breakout (seek technical strength in individual stocks), and constantly hone technical chart reading skills so that you can tell in 15 seconds or less whether a chart is worth pursuing. That means you need a good combination of tools and personal skills. The tools are just time vs. money and the skills are just practice, practice, practice. Katherine *HTMMIS, 3rd Ed., pg. 201 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Duane Runnels Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:41 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] many newbie questions about Industry Groups I’m trying to figure out the importance of Industry Groups. WON says pick a leader in a top 20% group and that half of a stock’s performance is related to its group. WON also says pick from the top 6 groups making new highs. (IBD Rule #11). Is it a valid screen then to start by looking only at the top 40 groups, find the leaders, and then check for RS and EPS, etc? There doesn't seem to be a lot of discussion here about industry groups, although there have been several posts recently. Do you consider group strength then as a secondary factor? It is not part of CANSLIM is it? Some of you even invest only in certain sectors. I particularly liked Katherine’s posts regarding researching groups showing new rising strength. I watch the Industry Groups table and the list changes dramatically from one month to the next. Is this a bear aberation or normal? How much of a group’s strength is dependent on one stock’s performance? If this is the case, isn’t group performance a misnomer? Also I see that certain groups have a lot of new highs, but also a lot of new lows. Is this just a reflection of today’s market conditions? In short, how much attention do you pay to the industry group and why?THANKS. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2EE29.E42EFE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Duane,
 
Wow...now those are some high = quality newbie=20 questions!
 
The notion of industry group = movement has=20 many dimensions, some of it preference, some of it logic.
 
I think at the core, there are = some=20 important questions and assumptions.
 
(1) What makes a group a=20 group?
 
No question that this is the = biggest=20 question of them all. When studies claim that the "movement of the group = contributes 50% to the move" or something equivalent, what group are = they=20 talking about? Is it stocks with the same primary SIC code? Stocks = serving=20 essentially the same business segment? Stocks that are economically = cyclical vs.=20 growth oriented? Stocks that are direct competitors? Stocks that are=20 representative of a business segment benefitting from a common economic = cycle, a=20 common technological innovation, a common supportive legislative action? = Etc. In=20 other words, you can "group" stocks in any combination and make a = statement=20 about "the group"....problem is that from one data source to another, = there is=20 little similarity in both the number of groups and in the composition of = the=20 group. The IBD tries to do the best job it can at parsing stocks into = meaningful=20 groups, but you are still left with groups that have 7 members and = others with=20 207. In some cases, direct competitors don't even fall within the *same* = group.=20 If you average activity of the "group", does it say the same thing in a = group=20 that has 7 stocks as it does for one with 207?
 
(2) How is the group move measured = (time=20 period, averages across price or other metrics, etc.)?
 
If you're ranking a group of = stocks, over=20 what period is the ranking done? 3 months? 6 months? 12 months? 25 = years? You=20 can make statements about a group, but the timeframe will make a world = of=20 difference in determining which group is a "top" group. How is the group = ranking=20 derived? If it is price action, is it measured equally across all time = periods?=20 Is it weighted from one period to the next? If it is based on average = price=20 across a group, how does the variation in prices within the group affect = the=20 average? Is it ranked based on other technical measurements? Etc. Again, = you=20 could take the same group of stocks and depending on how the ranking is = done, a=20 group can fall in the top half or the bottom half of the rankings. Same = stocks,=20 different results.
 
(3) What makes a group a leading=20 group?
 
Even if you make reasonable = assumptions in=20 questions 1 and 2 for a particular investing style, you're still left = with the=20 most important question of all. How does a group *become* a leading = group? It=20 *becomes* a leading group because one or more stocks in the group begin = to rise=20 from the ashes. As those stocks "outperform" (in whatever measure of=20 outperformance one designates) the *average* for the group measurement = rises. As=20 that average rises, the group becomes a "leading" or "top" group. Think = about=20 the implications of that, however. That is, the movement of the = individual=20 components leads to a higher group measurement. That may attract = attention from=20 a trading or economic perspective, but there's no doubt that the = underlying=20 fundamentals, economics, innovations, etc. that drew money to the = leading stocks=20 drove the group as a whole. It doesn't take a lot of rocket science to = know that=20 when a group is down in the dumps, the same holds true in reverse. Money = isn't=20 taken away from a group because the group in in the dumpers, the group = is in the=20 dumpers because money is taken out of it, driving the average for the = group=20 down. Chicken and egg stuff, but important when thinking about those = studies=20 that tell you "if you put your money in leading groups, your returns are = better." To that, I say a big DUH. Groups are at the bottom because = the=20 individual stocks that comprise the group are technically in the = dumpers. In=20 CANSLIM investing in particular, the idea is to focus on *strength* and = to avoid=20 *laggard* stocks.
 
WON has never said to buy "only" = from the=20 top 25% of groups. He says, that "on average, stocks in the top 50 or = 100 groups=20 perform better than those in the bottom 100."* ON AVERAGE. He says to = focus the=20 *majority* of your buying from within these top groups so that you raise = the=20 odds of success and so that you can benefit from the follow on effect. = At the=20 same time, however, he repeatedly says to look for leading stocks = showing=20 outperformance and that are *leading* the industry move. This is where = there is=20 the most bang for the buck.  From Investor's Corner 10/26/99 "The = logic=20 here is to jump in when the group breaks a downtrend, or rises above a = base and=20 heads for new high ground. But for the investor in search of only the = best=20 stocks, this strategy is flawed. When a sector breaks out, its top dogs = will=20 have already raced ahead of the pack." From Ask Bill 7/02 "Studies show = that 37%=20 of a stock's price movement is directly tied to the performance of its = industry=20 group. Another 12% is due to strength in its overall sector. Therefore, = roughly=20 half of a stock's move is due to the strength of its respective = industry. But=20 note that just because the relative strength of the group is on the low = side,=20 does not necessarily mean the group is bad. Sometimes, there are only a = few true=20 leaders in a group. If the group happens to be large or its is just = beginning a=20 move, the group relative strength rating may be skewed to the low side." = A=20 similar Ask Bill was published 3/11/03. "[K]eep in mind that emerging = leaders=20 may be farther down the industry group rankings."
 
In practical terms, that = means there=20 are 2 complementary approaches to using industry group information: top = down and=20 bottoms up. I don't think it matters where you start, but you need to do = *BOTH*.=20 I prefer bottoms up as a core practice, using industry analysis (top = down) as a=20 secondary mining technique. But I have always performed = both.
 
Bottoms Up-- A methodical approach = to=20 finding individual stocks that are outperforming the market, their = industry=20 brethren and/or their direct competitors. Picked up at the appropriate = time, you=20 get the full move in leading stocks. Industry analysis is used as a = confirming=20 indicator of the move. This is the opportunity to check that there is at = least=20 one other direct competitor or industry brethren that is showing high = relative=20 strength. Look for indications that the group as a whole may be rolling = over.=20 That is, the laggard stocks have already begun to falter and/or fail. = Leading=20 stocks will be the last to roll over, so this is where you can pick up = on clues=20 that an impending breakout may fail. Mining for this also includes = mining in=20 *rising* rather than *top* industry groups.
 
Top Down--Skim the top industry = groups to=20 see which are continuing a strong move up vs those that are starting to = fail and=20 soon will be moving down in the rankings. Review the stocks within the = group to=20 find which are currently setting up for a fresh breakout. Better if = these are=20 breakouts from 1st or 2nd stage bases. If the leaders are putting in a=20 consolidation in a 3rd or 4th stage base and the laggards are starting = to roll=20 over....look out below!
 
There are ways to streamline these = processes=20 so that this can be done efficiently and quickly-- narrow down the = list of=20 potential candidates based on a meaningful combination of=20  technicals/fundamentals, use a fast charting service with the = essential indicators, flip through the charts or key technical = indicators of the=20 stocks within the industry, methodically mine for stocks day = to day as=20 technical indicators show that they are setting up for a potential = breakout=20 (seek technical strength in individual stocks), and constantly hone = technical=20 chart reading skills so that you can tell in 15 seconds or less whether = a chart=20 is worth pursuing. That means you need a good combination of tools and = personal=20 skills. The tools are just time vs. money and the skills are just = practice,=20 practice, practice.
 
Katherine
 
*HTMMIS, 3rd Ed., pg. = 201
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Duane=20 Runnels
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:41 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] many newbie = questions=20 about Industry Groups

I=92m trying to figure = out the=20 importance of Industry Groups.  WON says pick a leader = in a top=20 20% group and that half of a stock=92s performance is related to its = group.  WON also says pick from the = top 6=20 groups making new highs. (IBD Rule #11).

 

Is it a valid screen then = to start by=20 looking only at the top 40 groups, find the leaders, and then check = for RS and=20 EPS, etc?

There doesn't seem to be = a lot of=20 discussion here about industry groups, although there have been = several posts=20 recently.  Do you = consider group=20 strength then as a secondary factor?  It is not part of CANSLIM = is=20 it?  Some of you even invest only in certain = sectors.

 

I particularly liked = Katherine=92s=20 posts regarding researching groups showing new rising strength. I = watch the=20 Industry Groups table and the list changes dramatically from one month = to the=20 next.  Is this a bear = aberation or=20 normal? =20

 

How much of a group=92s = strength is=20 dependent on one stock=92s performance? =20 If this is the case, isn=92t group performance a misnomer?  Also I see that certain = groups have a=20 lot of new highs, but also a lot of new lows.  Is this just a reflection of = today=92s=20 market conditions?

 

In short, how much = attention do you=20 pay to the industry group and why?THANKS.

------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2EE29.E42EFE30-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mo Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New NASD trading restrictions? Date: 19 Mar 2003 16:17:53 -0800 (PST) Article mentioning Ameritrade's actions: http://www.thestreet.com/funds/ericgillin/10070477.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] selling laggards Date: 20 Mar 2003 14:30:59 -0600 Hello all, I know that we all try and study, and implement strong buy and sell rules for stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wondering how long each of you hold onto a stock that is traveling sideways after your purchase. I know we have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but what about a stock that is neither rising or falling? Do you have a timeframe maximum, ie, if I don't see a 5% rise after 6 weeks, I am going to sell? Do you set a break even sell point if it has risen a little? Do you set a tighter stop loss, say 5-6% rather than 7-8%? I am wondering about how to free up capital, without abandoning a stock that is just forming a base on base pattern. Also, I wish all of our troops overseas a safe and quick return home. Thanks, Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Lobatto" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards Date: 20 Mar 2003 16:21:50 -0500 Mike, In a strong market I'd be highly suspicious of a stock that didn't move for six weeks. One thing you should be monitoring is the volume during the basing period. If it's heavy volume (churning) with a bias towards the down days, I'd be tempted to jettison it. Jon ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:30 PM > Hello all, > > I know that we all try and study, and implement strong buy and sell rules > for stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wondering how long each of you > hold onto a stock that is traveling sideways after your purchase. > > I know we have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but what about a stock that is > neither rising or falling? > > Do you have a timeframe maximum, ie, if I don't see a 5% rise after 6 > weeks, I am going to sell? > Do you set a break even sell point if it has risen a little? > Do you set a tighter stop loss, say 5-6% rather than 7-8%? > > I am wondering about how to free up capital, without abandoning a stock > that is just forming a base on base pattern. > > Also, I wish all of our troops overseas a safe and quick return home. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gasta, Jeff" Subject: [CANSLIM] Thank You Katherine and Ed - OVTI Date: 20 Mar 2003 16:49:51 -0500 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2EF2A.A299D290 Content-Type: text/plain Many thanks to Katherine and Ed for guidance on OVTI. It is my first CANSLIM purchase and I'm up about 16% in one week. Bought a small position of OVTI on 13 March at $19.95. Thanks to advice from this board, I realized I had to have a sell rule, and immediately placed a Stop Sell order at $18.40 (8% below my purchase price). Since then I changed the Stop Sell order to $20. The past few days the stock has been trading within a range from about 22.50 to 23.50. I'm sure I'm being too anxious about this, but it is temping to raise my Stop Sell price higher (perhaps to $22). I realize that by raising the sell order I risk selling the stock too soon just because of normal price swings. Advice on how I should think about this topic are appreciated. Just an FYI related to the brokerage sell rules discussion. My account is with ScottTrade. Last week I sold some stock, and then used cash from that sale to purchase OVTI about 3 minutes later, but the dollar amounts were low - less than $1,000. Thank you every one for your excellent advice. Jeffrey Gasta Telecommunications Engineering Marriott International Voice: 301.380.6204 Fax: 301.380.8649 jeff.gasta@marriott.com This communication contains information from Marriott International, Inc. that may be confidential. 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Many thanks to Katherine and Ed for guidance on OVTI.  It is my first CANSLIM purchase and I’m up about 16% in one week.

 

Bought a small position of OVTI on 13 March at $19.95.  Thanks to advice from this board, I realized I had to have a sell rule, and immediately placed a Stop Sell order at $18.40 (8% below my purchase price).    Since then I changed the Stop Sell order to $20.  The past few days the stock has been trading within a range from about 22.50 to 23.50.  I’m sure I’m being too anxious about this, but it is temping to raise my Stop Sell price higher (perhaps to $22).  I realize that by raising the sell order I risk selling the stock too soon just because of normal price swings.  Advice on how I should think about this topic are appreciated.

 

Just an FYI related to the brokerage sell rules discussion.  My account is with ScottTrade.  Last week I sold some stock, and then used cash from that sale to purchase OVTI about 3 minutes later, but the dollar amounts were low – less than $1,000.

 

Thank you every one for your excellent advice.

 

Jeffrey Gasta

Telecommunications Engineering

Marriott International

Voice:  301.380.6204

Fax:  301.380.8649

jeff.gasta@marriott.com

 

This communication contains information from Marriott International, Inc. that may be confidential. Except for personal use by the intended recipient, or as expressly authorized by the sender, any person who receives this information is prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, and/or using it. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law.

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2EF2A.A299D290-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mo Subject: [CANSLIM] OFF TOPIC, stop order question Date: 20 Mar 2003 14:22:37 -0800 (PST) I have had several stop orders rejected by E*Trade recently and would like to know if other brokers have the same restrictions. E*Trade requires the stop price to be: at least Ask + $0.10 for a buy order at most Bid - $0.10 for a sell order Further aggravating the situation, my rejected orders were placed after the market had closed when (according to E*Trade) the Bid and/or Ask prices are essentially undefined. Has anyone had a similar experience with other brokers? My correspondence with E*Trade follows: I tried to place a stop order on 3/19/03 at approx. 1:00 am EDT, clearly after the market had closed. The order I wanted to place was: Buy 500 PWI, STOP @ $16.98 The order was rejected so I tried a market order for the same security. The confirmation page for the order (which I canceled) showed the following for PWI: Price: $16.80 Bid: $13.12 Ask: $33.76 I assume that my stop order was rejected because it was not outside of the bid/ask price range. Where did these prices for the bid/ask come from??!! The ask price is 70% higher than the 52-week high for PWI! I experienced a similar problem the day before on an order for DAKT. The price spread was not as unbelievable as the one for PWI but my order was still rejected. E*Trade's response: The skewed Bid/Ask that you see when the market is closed is simply information that the market maker reports once the market is closed. It is not indicative of any actual Bid or Ask for that very reason. As such, it means that most stop orders have to be placed when the market is open as the orders need to be at least $0.10 above the Ask for a buy order and $0.10 below the Bid for a sell order. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Duane Runnels" Subject: [CANSLIM] Industry Groups redux Date: 20 Mar 2003 17:32:42 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2EF06.B6559720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Gene and Katherine. Your responses were better than I expected and were a good summary from = the earlier industry group discussions and questions I followed the last = couple of weeks. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2EF06.B6559720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Gene and=20 Katherine.
Your responses were better than = I expected=20 and were a good summary from the earlier industry group discussions and=20 questions I followed the last couple of weeks.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2EF06.B6559720-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards Date: 20 Mar 2003 22:01:56 -0500 my typical limit is about 3 months, unless I find something much more compelling and attractive. I will not usually alter my stop loss criteria, so long as it's moving sideways, unless it is tightening up the trading range considerably higher than my loss level (since I want the stop loss set at the bottom of the base). Many times, when I am getting weary of waiting for the breakout, I may sell half the position and use that money for something that is moving. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:30 PM Hello all, I know that we all try and study, and implement strong buy and sell rules for stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wondering how long each of you hold onto a stock that is traveling sideways after your purchase. I know we have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but what about a stock that is neither rising or falling? Do you have a timeframe maximum, ie, if I don't see a 5% rise after 6 weeks, I am going to sell? Do you set a break even sell point if it has risen a little? Do you set a tighter stop loss, say 5-6% rather than 7-8%? I am wondering about how to free up capital, without abandoning a stock that is just forming a base on base pattern. Also, I wish all of our troops overseas a safe and quick return home. Thanks, Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thank You Katherine and Ed - OVTI Date: 20 Mar 2003 22:05:15 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2EF2C.C94FB9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeffrey, the normal procedure I use is to leave the stop loss unchanged = until I am up at least 15%. At that point, I raise my limit to my = original entry point (or average price if multiple purchases). After = that, I try to use a trailing stop 15% below the prior day (sometimes = the closing price, sometimes the intraday high, depends on the chart, = stock, fundies, how badly I want to take profits, etc.) Of course, once raised, the stop loss should NEVER be lowered. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:49 PM Many thanks to Katherine and Ed for guidance on OVTI. It is my first = CANSLIM purchase and I'm up about 16% in one week. Bought a small position of OVTI on 13 March at $19.95. Thanks to advice = from this board, I realized I had to have a sell rule, and immediately = placed a Stop Sell order at $18.40 (8% below my purchase price). = Since then I changed the Stop Sell order to $20. The past few days the = stock has been trading within a range from about 22.50 to 23.50. I'm = sure I'm being too anxious about this, but it is temping to raise my = Stop Sell price higher (perhaps to $22). I realize that by raising the = sell order I risk selling the stock too soon just because of normal = price swings. Advice on how I should think about this topic are = appreciated. Just an FYI related to the brokerage sell rules discussion. My account = is with ScottTrade. Last week I sold some stock, and then used cash = from that sale to purchase OVTI about 3 minutes later, but the dollar = amounts were low - less than $1,000. Thank you every one for your excellent advice. Jeffrey Gasta Telecommunications Engineering Marriott International Voice: 301.380.6204 Fax: 301.380.8649 jeff.gasta@marriott.com This communication contains information from Marriott International, = Inc. that may be confidential. Except for personal use by the intended = recipient, or as expressly authorized by the sender, any person who = receives this information is prohibited from disclosing, copying, = distributing, and/or using it. If you have received this communication = in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly = notify the sender. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate = as an electronic signature under applicable law. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2EF2C.C94FB9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeffrey, the normal procedure I use is to leave = the stop=20 loss unchanged until I am up at least 15%. At that point, I raise my = limit to my=20 original entry point (or average price if multiple purchases). After = that, I try=20 to use a trailing stop 15% below the prior day (sometimes the closing = price,=20 sometimes the intraday high, depends on the chart, stock, fundies, how = badly I=20 want to take profits, etc.)
 
Of course, once raised, the stop loss should = NEVER be=20 lowered.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gasta,=20 Jeff
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:49 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Thank You Katherine and Ed - = OVTI

Many thanks to Katherine = and Ed for=20 guidance on OVTI.  It is my first CANSLIM purchase and I=92m up = about 16% in=20 one week.

 

Bought a small position of = OVTI on=20 13 March at $19.95.  Thanks to advice from this board, I realized I = had to=20 have a sell rule, and immediately placed a Stop Sell order at $18.40 (8% = below=20 my purchase price).    Since then I changed the Stop Sell = order=20 to $20.  The past few days the stock has been trading within a = range from=20 about 22.50 to 23.50.  I=92m sure I=92m being too anxious about = this, but it is=20 temping to raise my Stop Sell price higher (perhaps to $22).  I = realize=20 that by raising the sell order I risk selling the stock too soon just = because of=20 normal price swings.  Advice on how I should think about this topic = are=20 appreciated.

 

Just an FYI related to the = brokerage=20 sell rules discussion.  My account is with ScottTrade.  Last = week I=20 sold some stock, and then used cash from that sale to purchase OVTI = about 3=20 minutes later, but the dollar amounts were low =96 less than=20 $1,000.

 

Thank you every one for = your=20 excellent advice.

 

Jeffrey = Gasta

Telecommunications=20 Engineering

Marriott=20 International

Voice: =20 301.380.6204

Fax: =20 301.380.8649

jeff.gasta@marriott.com

 

This communication = contains=20 information from Marriott International, Inc. that may be confidential. = Except=20 for personal use by the intended recipient, or as expressly authorized = by the=20 sender, any person who receives this information is prohibited from = disclosing,=20 copying, distributing, and/or using it. If you have received this = communication=20 in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly = notify the=20 sender. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an = electronic=20 signature under applicable law.

 

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Do anyone have a stock they see reaching its pivot point.
 
                                                                Thanks,
                                                                 Joe Clark
 
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Hi = Joe,
 
Are you looking for = something=20 particular or just an example for study?
 
Katherine
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 jclark249@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 = 9:50=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: = [CANSLIM] pivot=20 point stock

Do anyone have a stock they see reaching its pivot = point.
 
        =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20     Thanks,
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;     Joe=20 Clark
 
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Tom can you ex= plain what you mean by tightening up the trading range higher then my sto= p loss level.  Cant picture-is there a chart or something to explain= ? Thanks nancy
 
----- Original Mes= sage -----
From: Tom Worley
= Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:04 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards
&= nbsp;
my typical limit is about 3 months, unless I find something mu= ch more
compelling and attractive. I will not usually alter my stop lo= ss criteria,
so long as it's moving sideways, unless it is tightening = up the trading
range considerably higher than my loss level (since I w= ant the stop loss set
at the bottom of the base).

Many times, w= hen I am getting weary of waiting for the breakout, I may sell
half th= e position and use that money for something that is moving.

----- = Original Message -----
From: <michael_niemotka@baxter.com>
To= : <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:= 30 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] selling laggards


Hello all,
I know that we all try and study, and implement strong buy and sell rule= s
for stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wondering how long each = of you
hold onto a stock that is traveling sideways after your purchas= e.

I know we have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but what about a stock = that is
neither rising or falling?

Do you have a timeframe maxi= mum, ie, if I don't see a 5% rise after 6
weeks, I am going to sell?Do you set a break even sell point if it has risen a little?
Do you = set a tighter stop loss, say 5-6% rather than 7-8%?

I am wondering= about how to free up capital, without abandoning a stock
that is just= forming a base on base pattern.

Also, I wish all of our troops ov= erseas a safe and quick return home.

Thanks,

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corpo= ration
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847= ) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com


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I believe strict CANSLIM guidelines = state that a=20 stock should have 2% - 30% institutional ownership.  However, = it seems=20 that a majority of the high quality stocks that I find, that meet = CANSLIM=20 guidelines in every other way, have more than 30% institutional = ownership. =20 Often they have 60-95% ownership.  Apparently, the fear is that if=20 something happens, the institutional owners can become a large source of = supply,=20 dumping the stock.  However, to me it seems that whether it's 30% = or 80%,=20 both will be a large source of supply.  What have your = experiences=20 been with good CANSLIM stocks that have a higher than 30% institutional=20 ownership?  Should they be avoided?
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2EF42.8B1B3010-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards Date: 21 Mar 2003 06:02:17 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2EF6F.6D211C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nancy, Stock is moving sideways, so picture a flat base heading east (one of my = favorite chart patterns). If, when I bought it, the base (or handle) had = a $4 up/down range between $20 and $24, my stop loss would be set around = 19.75 or so, just under the base. If several months passed, and it was = still heading east, but now only trading between $22 and $24, I probably = would raise my stop loss to $21.80 or so. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:05 AM Tom can you explain what you mean by tightening up the trading range = higher then my stop loss level. Cant picture-is there a chart or = something to explain? Thanks nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:04 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards my typical limit is about 3 months, unless I find something much more compelling and attractive. I will not usually alter my stop loss = criteria, so long as it's moving sideways, unless it is tightening up the = trading range considerably higher than my loss level (since I want the stop = loss set at the bottom of the base). Many times, when I am getting weary of waiting for the breakout, I may = sell half the position and use that money for something that is moving. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] selling laggards Hello all, I know that we all try and study, and implement strong buy and sell = rules for stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wondering how long each of = you hold onto a stock that is traveling sideways after your purchase. I know we have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but what about a stock that is neither rising or falling? Do you have a timeframe maximum, ie, if I don't see a 5% rise after 6 weeks, I am going to sell? Do you set a break even sell point if it has risen a little? Do you set a tighter stop loss, say 5-6% rather than 7-8%? I am wondering about how to free up capital, without abandoning a = stock that is just forming a base on base pattern. Also, I wish all of our troops overseas a safe and quick return home. Thanks, Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2EF6F.6D211C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Nancy,
 
Stock is moving sideways, so picture a = flat base=20 heading east (one of my favorite chart patterns). If, when I bought it, = the base=20 (or handle) had a $4 up/down range between $20 and $24, my stop loss = would be=20 set around 19.75 or so, just under the base. If several months passed, = and it=20 was still heading east, but now only trading between $22 and $24, I = probably=20 would raise my stop loss to $21.80 or so.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards

Tom can you explain what you mean by tightening up the trading = range higher=20 then my stop loss level.  Cant picture-is there a chart or = something to=20 explain? Thanks nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 = 7:04=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling=20 laggards
 
my typical limit is about 3 months, unless I find = something=20 much more
compelling and attractive. I will not usually alter my = stop loss=20 criteria,
so long as it's moving sideways, unless it is tightening = up the=20 trading
range considerably higher than my loss level (since I want = the stop=20 loss set
at the bottom of the base).

Many times, when I am = getting=20 weary of waiting for the breakout, I may sell
half the position and = use=20 that money for something that is moving.

----- Original Message = -----
From: <michael_niemotka@baxter.com>
To:=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 = 3:30=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] selling laggards


Hello = all,

I know=20 that we all try and study, and implement strong buy and sell = rules
for=20 stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wondering how long each of = you
hold=20 onto a stock that is traveling sideways after your purchase.

I = know we=20 have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but what about a stock that = is
neither rising=20 or falling?

Do you have a timeframe maximum, ie, if I don't see = a 5%=20 rise after 6
weeks, I am going to sell?
Do you set a break even = sell=20 point if it has risen a little?
Do you set a tighter stop loss, say = 5-6%=20 rather than 7-8%?

I am wondering about how to free up capital, = without=20 abandoning a stock
that is just forming a base on base=20 pattern.

Also, I wish all of our troops overseas a safe and = quick=20 return home.

Thanks,

Mike


Mike Niemotka , = PE
Sr.=20 Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & = Wilson=20 Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847)=20 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com



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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2EF6F.6D211C50-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] How important is low Institutional Ownership? Date: 21 Mar 2003 06:23:52 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2EF72.714EB910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, the topic of institutional ownership is complex, in part because = there are many different types of "institutional" owners with different = investing objectives, and because different data sources count the = ownership in different ways. Institutions include not only mutual funds, but also pension funds, = insurance companies, banks, venture capitalists, and even individual = owners, all of whom have large capital to invest. Some will do = exhaustive due diligence, and invest in early stages, and be there for = years. Others, like mutual funds, may move in and out rather quickly. Different data sources also count this ownership in different ways. Some = disregard venture capitalists entirely, due difficulty in obtaining = information if their holdings are not over 5% of the issue. Others show = institutional ownership as a collective total without breaking it down = into the different types. Even the percentage is calculated differently = from site to site, some do it as a percentage of the issue, while others = like DGO do it as a percentage of the float. In this latter case, this = can make a big difference if management owns 50% of the issue, thus = doubling institutional percentages when taken as a %age of the remaining = float. That said, it is most important, if institutional ownership is a = significant factor in your decision making, to find a data source you = like, and stick with it. Try to learn how they count the numbers, not = just on this issue but many others. You need consistent information, = even if it is different than what some other site may present. I use DGO exclusively for this topic, where it shows me the %age = Management owns of the issue, and also the %age that mutual funds and = banks own of the remaining float. Mostly, I disregard banks, focusing = only on mutual funds, where I find they are the quickest to move in and = out, often for no apparent reason. Most funds hide their activity, only = showing holdings at the end of the quarter, after the "window dressing". = Some will show the cost basis of a holding, with that and a chart you = can get an idea how long they owned the position. None that I know of = give out a "purchase and sale" report for the quarter, which I think = they should be required to provide. Because I only buy small companies that most have not heard of, and = often with very limited liquidity, I will normally steer clear of any = stocks with more than a 20% ownership of the float by the mutual funds. = I am not put off by zero fund ownership. EPIQ, which I currently own and = has done very well for me, shows 23% Management ownership, 27% funds and = 20% banks. But contrast that with FWHT, which I also own, with 66% = Management ownership, and only 7% funds, 0% banks, and has more than = doubled for me in the past year. The generally accepted rule for CANSLIM is 20% funds ownership, WON = seems to be vague on the other types of institutional ownership. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:41 AM I believe strict CANSLIM guidelines state that a stock should have 2% - = 30% institutional ownership. However, it seems that a majority of the = high quality stocks that I find, that meet CANSLIM guidelines in every = other way, have more than 30% institutional ownership. Often they have = 60-95% ownership. Apparently, the fear is that if something happens, = the institutional owners can become a large source of supply, dumping = the stock. However, to me it seems that whether it's 30% or 80%, both = will be a large source of supply. What have your experiences been with = good CANSLIM stocks that have a higher than 30% institutional ownership? = Should they be avoided? ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2EF72.714EB910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris, the topic of institutional ownership is = complex, in=20 part because there are many different types of "institutional" owners = with=20 different investing objectives, and because different data sources count = the=20 ownership in different ways.
 
Institutions include not only mutual funds, but = also=20 pension funds, insurance companies, banks, venture capitalists, and even = individual owners, all of whom have large capital to invest. Some will = do=20 exhaustive due diligence, and invest in early stages, and be there for = years.=20 Others, like mutual funds, may move in and out rather = quickly.
 
Different data sources also count this ownership = in=20 different ways. Some disregard venture capitalists entirely, due = difficulty in=20 obtaining information if their holdings are not over 5% of the issue. = Others=20 show institutional ownership as a collective total without breaking it = down into=20 the different types. Even the percentage is calculated differently from = site to=20 site, some do it as a percentage of the issue, while others like DGO do = it as a=20 percentage of the float. In this latter case, this can make a big = difference if=20 management owns 50% of the issue, thus doubling institutional = percentages when=20 taken as a %age of the remaining float.
 
That said, it is most important, if = institutional=20 ownership is a significant factor in your decision making, to find a = data source=20 you like, and stick with it. Try to learn how they count the numbers, = not just=20 on this issue but many others. You need consistent information, even if = it is=20 different than what some other site may present.
 
I use DGO exclusively for this topic, where it = shows me=20 the %age Management owns of the issue, and also the %age that mutual = funds and=20 banks own of the remaining float. Mostly, I disregard banks, focusing = only on=20 mutual funds, where I find they are the quickest to move in and out, = often for=20 no apparent reason. Most funds hide their activity, only showing = holdings at the=20 end of the quarter, after the "window dressing". Some will show the cost = basis=20 of a holding, with that and a chart you can get an idea how long they = owned the=20 position. None that I know of give out a "purchase and sale" report for = the=20 quarter, which I think they should be required to provide.
 
Because I only buy small companies that most = have not=20 heard of, and often with very limited liquidity, I will normally steer = clear of=20 any stocks with more than a 20% ownership of the float by the mutual = funds. I am=20 not put off by zero fund ownership. EPIQ, which I currently own and has = done=20 very well for me, shows 23% Management ownership, 27% funds and 20% = banks. But=20 contrast that with FWHT, which I also own, with 66% Management = ownership, and=20 only 7% funds, 0% banks, and has more than doubled for me in the past=20 year.
 
The generally accepted rule for CANSLIM is 20% = funds=20 ownership, WON seems to be vague on the other types of institutional=20 ownership.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chris Jones=20
To: CANSLIM
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:41 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] How important is low Institutional=20 Ownership?

I believe strict CANSLIM guidelines = state that a=20 stock should have 2% - 30% institutional ownership.  However, = it seems=20 that a majority of the high quality stocks that I find, that meet = CANSLIM=20 guidelines in every other way, have more than 30% institutional = ownership. =20 Often they have 60-95% ownership.  Apparently, the fear is that if=20 something happens, the institutional owners can become a large source of = supply,=20 dumping the stock.  However, to me it seems that whether it's 30% = or 80%,=20 both will be a large source of supply.  What have your = experiences=20 been with good CANSLIM stocks that have a higher than 30% institutional=20 ownership?  Should they be avoided?
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2EF72.714EB910-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 09:16:49 -0600 All, For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am wondering if that should be a reason for caution. Katherine, any comments? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] ANSI Date: 21 Mar 2003 09:22:10 -0600 All, In looking at the past few days at ANSI, am I seeing things correctly, that it looks like the chart is showing some wedging action? Or since the price is fairly flat, is it just a good action to see in a possible handle, since volume is drying up? Looks like a pivot point of $39.70. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Christiansen Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ANSI Date: 21 Mar 2003 22:54:02 +0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030209020009090102070202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't see any wedging.  On a weekly chart, it looks like an ascending base that is acting well.  I would currently put the pivot at 40.359.



michael_niemotka@baxter.com wrote:
All,

In looking at the past few days at ANSI, am I seeing things correctly, that
it looks like the chart is showing some wedging action? Or since the price
is fairly flat, is it just a good action to see in a possible handle, since
volume is drying up?  Looks like a pivot point of $39.70.

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com



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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 10:10:12 -0600 Hi Mike, For those that aren't familiar with our site methodology or terminology, the stocks on the "WON" list are distinguished from those on other lists only by whether or not they fit WON's strictest interpretation of a cup and handle setup. That is, WON's strictest requirements include a pivot within 15% of the 52 week high, a cup depth of no more than 33%, a handle droop of no more than 15%, a non-laggard RS of at least 70, etc. However, using his more general guidelines, a cup and handle is still valid even if it sports a bear depth of up to 60%, a handle droop of no more than 30%, a pivot setting up in the upper half of the base but not necessarily within 15% of the high, etc. So, of the 12 breakouts that have triggered today, while they do not meet the WON's most severe guidelines, they still meet his suggested guidelines for a valid cup and handle. What is far more important to me is the quality of the stocks setting up as an indicator of market health. Of the 12 that have triggered a potential breakout today (hitting their pivot points on projected volume of at least 150%), 10 of 12 come from what I call "the green zone." That is, out of the entire universe of stocks, they have *both* fundamental and technical scores that rank in the upper half of the maximum possible. In fact, 4 of the 12 are from the triple green zone (highest possible), 6 of the 12 come from the double green zone (2nd best). That's a key marker for me, because it says that CANSLIM quality stocks are the ones on the move rather than cyclical and defensive stocks, which has been the norm for such a very long time. I see this as very promising. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:17 AM All, For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am wondering if that should be a reason for caution. Katherine, any comments? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Lobatto" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ANSI Date: 21 Mar 2003 11:12:17 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C2EF9A.BBF51B80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00C9_01C2EF9A.BBF51B80" ------=_NextPart_001_00C9_01C2EF9A.BBF51B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This brings up a point I don't recall being discussed here before. When = the ANSI question was raised, I looked at an arithmetic chart and it = looked very sloppy. On the log chart Peter provided below, the wedge = looks very orderly. Does anyone have any strong opinions on arithmetic = vs. log charts when viewing price action and determining items like = wedges?? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Peter Christiansen=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ANSI I don't see any wedging. On a weekly chart, it looks like an = ascending base that is acting well. I would currently put the pivot at = 40.359. michael_niemotka@baxter.com wrote: All, In looking at the past few days at ANSI, am I seeing things correctly, = that it looks like the chart is showing some wedging action? Or since the = price is fairly flat, is it just a good action to see in a possible handle, = since volume is drying up? Looks like a pivot point of $39.70. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_001_00C9_01C2EF9A.BBF51B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This brings up a point I don't = recall=20 being discussed here before. When the ANSI question was raised, I looked = at an=20 arithmetic chart and it looked very sloppy. On the log chart = Peter provided=20 below, the wedge looks very orderly. Does anyone have any strong = opinions on=20 arithmetic vs. log charts when viewing price action and determining = items like=20 wedges??
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From:=20 Peter=20 Christiansen
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 = 10:54=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = ANSI

I don't see any wedging.  On a weekly chart, it = looks like=20 an ascending base that is acting well.  I would currently put the = pivot=20 at 40.359.

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michael_niemotka@baxter.com=20 wrote:
All,

In looking at the past few days at ANSI, am I seeing things correctly, =
that
it looks like the chart is showing some wedging action? Or since the =
price
is fairly flat, is it just a good action to see in a possible handle, =
since
volume is drying up?  Looks like a pivot point of $39.70.

Thanks

Mike

Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@baxter.com



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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Richards" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 10:18:35 -0600 Perhaps, I am just an old fraidy-cat. But with the international situation being what it is, I would be cautious about any possible rally or breakout. Not saying that you can't make money on selected stocks, but rather why take the stress with the risk/reward ratios being somewhat suspect? They have already found WMD in Iraq according to recent reports and of course, you know about the scuds that Iraq doesn't have apparently being blown up by Patriot missiles. This is a very emotional market at the moment. The economics are really good and now most Wall St guru's are writing off the 1st half of 2003 and some are talking about the recovery coming in the first half of 2004. Based upon their recent track record, I suppose that eventually they will be correct. Doesn't snake eyes even occasionally come up on a roll of the dice? -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:17 AM All, For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am wondering if that should be a reason for caution. Katherine, any comments? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Christiansen Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 23:20:52 +0700 Excuse me, I haven't been on this list for quite some time. What is "our site"? Is there a web site I should know about? Thank you. Katherine Malm wrote: >Hi Mike, > >For those that aren't familiar with our site methodology or terminology, the >stocks on the "WON" list are distinguished from those on other lists only by >whether or not they fit WON's strictest interpretation of a cup and handle >setup. That is, WON's strictest requirements include a pivot within 15% of >the 52 week high, a cup depth of no more than 33%, a handle droop of no more >than 15%, a non-laggard RS of at least 70, etc. However, using his more >general guidelines, a cup and handle is still valid even if it sports a bear >depth of up to 60%, a handle droop of no more than 30%, a pivot setting up >in the upper half of the base but not necessarily within 15% of the high, >etc. So, of the 12 breakouts that have triggered today, while they do not >meet the WON's most severe guidelines, they still meet his suggested >guidelines for a valid cup and handle. > >What is far more important to me is the quality of the stocks setting up as >an indicator of market health. Of the 12 that have triggered a potential >breakout today (hitting their pivot points on projected volume of at least >150%), 10 of 12 come from what I call "the green zone." That is, out of the >entire universe of stocks, they have *both* fundamental and technical scores >that rank in the upper half of the maximum possible. In fact, 4 of the 12 >are from the triple green zone (highest possible), 6 of the 12 come from the >double green zone (2nd best). That's a key marker for me, because it says >that CANSLIM quality stocks are the ones on the move rather than cyclical >and defensive stocks, which has been the norm for such a very long time. I >see this as very promising. > >Katherine > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of >michael_niemotka@baxter.com >Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:17 AM >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > >All, > >For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 >breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have >noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am >wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > >Katherine, any comments? > >Thanks > >Mike > >Mike Niemotka , PE >Sr. Principal Engineer >Baxter Healthcare Corporation >Route 120 & Wilson Road >Round Lake, IL 60073 >Tel (847) 270-4075 >Fax (847) 270-4525 >michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 10:20:15 -0600 Katherine, Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking of adding it to my original e-mail, but was not sure exactly what the criteria was, so rather than send forth incorrect info, I opted to omit it. Can you expand on what you mean my a double or triple green zone? Do you mean that they have good technical merit, as well has good CANSMLIM scores, again from your site? I am really pumped about the whole thing. Also, since you sent the e-mail, you also issued an alert on VIP, which is on the WON list! Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Katherine Malm" To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent by: cc: owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] more breakouts ission.com 03/21/2003 10:10 AM Please respond to canslim Hi Mike, For those that aren't familiar with our site methodology or terminology, the stocks on the "WON" list are distinguished from those on other lists only by whether or not they fit WON's strictest interpretation of a cup and handle setup. That is, WON's strictest requirements include a pivot within 15% of the 52 week high, a cup depth of no more than 33%, a handle droop of no more than 15%, a non-laggard RS of at least 70, etc. However, using his more general guidelines, a cup and handle is still valid even if it sports a bear depth of up to 60%, a handle droop of no more than 30%, a pivot setting up in the upper half of the base but not necessarily within 15% of the high, etc. So, of the 12 breakouts that have triggered today, while they do not meet the WON's most severe guidelines, they still meet his suggested guidelines for a valid cup and handle. What is far more important to me is the quality of the stocks setting up as an indicator of market health. Of the 12 that have triggered a potential breakout today (hitting their pivot points on projected volume of at least 150%), 10 of 12 come from what I call "the green zone." That is, out of the entire universe of stocks, they have *both* fundamental and technical scores that rank in the upper half of the maximum possible. In fact, 4 of the 12 are from the triple green zone (highest possible), 6 of the 12 come from the double green zone (2nd best). That's a key marker for me, because it says that CANSLIM quality stocks are the ones on the move rather than cyclical and defensive stocks, which has been the norm for such a very long time. I see this as very promising. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:17 AM All, For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am wondering if that should be a reason for caution. Katherine, any comments? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards Date: 21 Mar 2003 08:26:11 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2EF83.87F30480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see, thanks for taking the time Tom-Nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:05 AM Hi Nancy, Stock is moving sideways, so picture a flat base heading east (one of my = favorite chart patterns). If, when I bought it, the base (or handle) had = a $4 up/down range between $20 and $24, my stop loss would be set around = 19.75 or so, just under the base. If several months passed, and it was st= ill heading east, but now only trading between $22 and $24, I probably wo= uld raise my stop loss to $21.80 or so. ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:05 AM Tom can you explain what you mean by tightening up the trading range high= er then my stop loss level. Cant picture-is there a chart or something t= o explain? Thanks nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:04 PM my typical limit is about 3 months, unless I find something much more compelling and attractive. I will not usually alter my stop loss criteria= , so long as it's moving sideways, unless it is tightening up the trading range considerably higher than my loss level (since I want the stop loss = set at the bottom of the base). Many times, when I am getting weary of waiting for the breakout, I may se= ll half the position and use that money for something that is moving. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:30 PM Hello all, I know that we all try and study, and implement strong buy and sell rules for stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wondering how long each of yo= u hold onto a stock that is traveling sideways after your purchase. I know we have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but what about a stock that is neither rising or falling? Do you have a timeframe maximum, ie, if I don't see a 5% rise after 6 weeks, I am going to sell? Do you set a break even sell point if it has risen a little? Do you set a tighter stop loss, say 5-6% rather than 7-8%? I am wondering about how to free up capital, without abandoning a stock that is just forming a base on base pattern. Also, I wish all of our troops overseas a safe and quick return home. Thanks, Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2EF83.87F30480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<= B>From: Tom Worley
Sent:= Friday, March 21, 2003 3:05 AM
= Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards
 
=
Hi Nancy,
 
Stock= is moving sideways, so picture a flat base heading east (one of my favor= ite chart patterns). If, when I bought it, the base (or handle) had a $4 = up/down range between $20 and $24, my stop loss would be set around 19.75= or so, just under the base. If several months passed, and it was still h= eading east, but now only trading between $22 and $24, I probably would r= aise my stop loss to $21.80 or so.
 
----- Original Message -----
T= o: canslim
Sent: Friday, March 21, 200= 3 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling laggards

Tom can you explain what you mean by tighten= ing up the trading range higher then my stop loss level.  Cant pictu= re-is there a chart or something to explain? Thanks nancy
&nbs= p;
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Wo= rley
Sent: Thursday, March 2= 0, 2003 7:04 PM
=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] selling lag= gards
 
my typical limit is about 3 months, unless I= find something much more
compelling and attractive. I will not usuall= y alter my stop loss criteria,
so long as it's moving sideways, unless= it is tightening up the trading
range considerably higher than my los= s level (since I want the stop loss set
at the bottom of the base).
Many times, when I am getting weary of waiting for the breakout, I m= ay sell
half the position and use that money for something that is mov= ing.

----- Original Message -----
From: <michael_niemotka@ba= xter.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday,= March 20, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] selling laggards

Hello all,

I know that we all try and study, and implement strong= buy and sell rules
for stocks in the CANSLIM system, but I was wonder= ing how long each of you
hold onto a stock that is traveling sideways = after your purchase.

I know we have the 7-8% loss sell rule, but w= hat about a stock that is
neither rising or falling?

Do you hav= e a timeframe maximum, ie, if I don't see a 5% rise after 6
weeks, I a= m going to sell?
Do you set a break even sell point if it has risen a = little?
Do you set a tighter stop loss, say 5-6% rather than 7-8%?
=
I am wondering about how to free up capital, without abandoning a sto= ck
that is just forming a base on base pattern.

Also, I wish al= l of our troops overseas a safe and quick return home.

Thanks,
=
Mike


Mike Niemotka , PE
Sr. Principal Engineer
Baxte= r Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson Road
Round Lake, IL= 60073
Tel (847) 270-4075
Fax (847) 270-4525
michael_niemotka@ba= xter.com



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<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2EF83.87F30480-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 10:41:57 -0600 Peter, I'm sorry that in my original post I was not more specific, but cwhcharts.com is a site that is owned and operated by Katherine Malm and Mike Gibbons, who have been contributors to this list for a long time. Each day they use a computer algorithm to select stocks setting up in cup with handle patterns and then intraday automatically send out email alerts if a stock hits its pivot point on projected volume of at least 150% of average daily volume. In a healthy market, you see many quality stocks breaking out of sound patterns, so I was commenting on the higher volume of e-mail alerts that have happened over the last few days. I have NO financial interest in this site, but would encourage anyone on the list to check it out, because it has a wealth of knowledge about CANSLIM for free, and also offers a free trial. In addition, because they are list members, Mike and Katherine have given limited access to the members of the list for certain areas of the site. Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Peter Christiansen" cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/21/2003 10:20 AM Please respond to canslim Excuse me, I haven't been on this list for quite some time. What is "our site"? Is there a web site I should know about? Thank you. Katherine Malm wrote: >Hi Mike, > >For those that aren't familiar with our site methodology or terminology, the >stocks on the "WON" list are distinguished from those on other lists only by >whether or not they fit WON's strictest interpretation of a cup and handle >setup. That is, WON's strictest requirements include a pivot within 15% of >the 52 week high, a cup depth of no more than 33%, a handle droop of no more >than 15%, a non-laggard RS of at least 70, etc. However, using his more >general guidelines, a cup and handle is still valid even if it sports a bear >depth of up to 60%, a handle droop of no more than 30%, a pivot setting up >in the upper half of the base but not necessarily within 15% of the high, >etc. So, of the 12 breakouts that have triggered today, while they do not >meet the WON's most severe guidelines, they still meet his suggested >guidelines for a valid cup and handle. > >What is far more important to me is the quality of the stocks setting up as >an indicator of market health. Of the 12 that have triggered a potential >breakout today (hitting their pivot points on projected volume of at least >150%), 10 of 12 come from what I call "the green zone." That is, out of the >entire universe of stocks, they have *both* fundamental and technical scores >that rank in the upper half of the maximum possible. In fact, 4 of the 12 >are from the triple green zone (highest possible), 6 of the 12 come from the >double green zone (2nd best). That's a key marker for me, because it says >that CANSLIM quality stocks are the ones on the move rather than cyclical >and defensive stocks, which has been the norm for such a very long time. I >see this as very promising. > >Katherine > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of >michael_niemotka@baxter.com >Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:17 AM >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > >All, > >For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 >breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have >noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am >wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > >Katherine, any comments? > >Thanks > >Mike > >Mike Niemotka , PE >Sr. Principal Engineer >Baxter Healthcare Corporation >Route 120 & Wilson Road >Round Lake, IL 60073 >Tel (847) 270-4075 >Fax (847) 270-4525 >michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gasta, Jeff" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Thank You Katherine and Ed - OVTI Date: 21 Mar 2003 11:41:48 -0500 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2EFC8.83813B5C Content-Type: text/plain Tom, thanks a million for your great advice. Jeffrey Gasta Telecommunications Engineering Marriott International Voice: 301.380.6204 Fax: 301.380.8649 jeff.gasta@marriott.com This communication contains information from Marriott International, Inc. that may be confidential. Except for personal use by the intended recipient, or as expressly authorized by the sender, any person who receives this information is prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, and/or using it. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:05 PM Jeffrey, the normal procedure I use is to leave the stop loss unchanged until I am up at least 15%. At that point, I raise my limit to my original entry point (or average price if multiple purchases). After that, I try to use a trailing stop 15% below the prior day (sometimes the closing price, sometimes the intraday high, depends on the chart, stock, fundies, how badly I want to take profits, etc.) Of course, once raised, the stop loss should NEVER be lowered. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:49 PM Many thanks to Katherine and Ed for guidance on OVTI. It is my first CANSLIM purchase and I'm up about 16% in one week. Bought a small position of OVTI on 13 March at $19.95. Thanks to advice from this board, I realized I had to have a sell rule, and immediately placed a Stop Sell order at $18.40 (8% below my purchase price). Since then I changed the Stop Sell order to $20. The past few days the stock has been trading within a range from about 22.50 to 23.50. I'm sure I'm being too anxious about this, but it is temping to raise my Stop Sell price higher (perhaps to $22). I realize that by raising the sell order I risk selling the stock too soon just because of normal price swings. Advice on how I should think about this topic are appreciated. Just an FYI related to the brokerage sell rules discussion. My account is with ScottTrade. Last week I sold some stock, and then used cash from that sale to purchase OVTI about 3 minutes later, but the dollar amounts were low - less than $1,000. Thank you every one for your excellent advice. Jeffrey Gasta Telecommunications Engineering Marriott International Voice: 301.380.6204 Fax: 301.380.8649 jeff.gasta@marriott.com This communication contains information from Marriott International, Inc. that may be confidential. Except for personal use by the intended recipient, or as expressly authorized by the sender, any person who receives this information is prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, and/or using it. 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Tom, thanks a million for your great advice.

 

Jeffrey Gasta

Telecommunications Engineering

Marriott International

Voice:  301.380.6204

Fax:  301.380.8649

jeff.gasta@marriott.com

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:05 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thank You Katherine and Ed - OVTI

 

Jeffrey, the normal procedure I use is to leave the stop loss unchanged until I am up at least 15%. At that point, I raise my limit to my original entry point (or average price if multiple purchases). After that, I try to use a trailing stop 15% below the prior day (sometimes the closing price, sometimes the intraday high, depends on the chart, stock, fundies, how badly I want to take profits, etc.)

 

Of course, once raised, the stop loss should NEVER be lowered.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gasta, Jeff

Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:49 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM] Thank You Katherine and Ed - OVTI

 

Many thanks to Katherine and Ed for guidance on OVTI.  It is my first CANSLIM purchase and I’m up about 16% in one week.

 

Bought a small position of OVTI on 13 March at $19.95.  Thanks to advice from this board, I realized I had to have a sell rule, and immediately placed a Stop Sell order at $18.40 (8% below my purchase price).    Since then I changed the Stop Sell order to $20.  The past few days the stock has been trading within a range from about 22.50 to 23.50.  I’m sure I’m being too anxious about this, but it is temping to raise my Stop Sell price higher (perhaps to $22).  I realize that by raising the sell order I risk selling the stock too soon just because of normal price swings.  Advice on how I should think about this topic are appreciated.

 

Just an FYI related to the brokerage sell rules discussion.  My account is with ScottTrade.  Last week I sold some stock, and then used cash from that sale to purchase OVTI about 3 minutes later, but the dollar amounts were low – less than $1,000.

 

Thank you every one for your excellent advice.

 

Jeffrey Gasta

Telecommunications Engineering

Marriott International

Voice:  301.380.6204

Fax:  301.380.8649

jeff.gasta@marriott.com

 

This communication contains information from Marriott International, Inc. that may be confidential. Except for personal use by the intended recipient, or as expressly authorized by the sender, any person who receives this information is prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, and/or using it. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law.

 

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(http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/main.asp?time=10&freq=2&co mpidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp=&ma=6&maval=13%2C40%2C200&uf=8&lf=268435456&lf2=4&lf3=8 &type=2&style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=&startdate=&enddate=&show=true&symb=oe x&draw.x=54&draw.y=14) As we stand now with the OEX at 456, that ceiling is a meagre 5 points away right now. I would argue for close market scurtiny at that level. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:16 AM > All, > > For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 > breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have > noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am > wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > > Katherine, any comments? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Davellil5@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Thank You Katherine and Ed - OVTI Date: 21 Mar 2003 16:51:06 EST - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Davellil5@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ANSI Date: 21 Mar 2003 16:52:07 EST - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Davellil5@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ANSI Date: 21 Mar 2003 16:52:10 EST - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 16:00:00 -0600 Ian, I cannot share the actual data on the stocks, because, as you said, it is proprietary. I find your comments very interesting, and will have to check into it. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com Ian Sent by: To: canslim@lists.xmission.com owner-canslim@lists.xm cc: ission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts 03/21/2003 04:20 PM Please respond to canslim Hi Mike: May I ask if all 8 of them were heavily shorted issues? The reason I ask is that I'm still seeing most of the action in the stocks with the largest short positions. I'm not sure what CANSLIM has to say about it, but my gut tells me that it implies extra caution. Is it permitted to share todays 'breakouts' with this list, or is that proprietary information? Also, since the initial market breakdown in September 2000, the 40-week ema of the OEX has provided a ceiling for every single bear-market rally. ( http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/main.asp?time=10&freq=2&co mpidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp =&ma=6&maval=13%2C40%2C200&uf=8&lf=268435456&lf2=4&lf3=8 &type=2&style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=&startdate=&enddate =&show=true&symb=oe x&draw.x=54&draw.y=14) As we stand now with the OEX at 456, that ceiling is a meagre 5 points away right now. I would argue for close market scurtiny at that level. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:16 AM > All, > > For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 > breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have > noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am > wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > > Katherine, any comments? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Gibbons" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 13:12:54 -1000 Ian, We do not normally release our breakout alerts as they are proprietary, as Mike Niemotka has already explained. However, in view of your posing the possibility that an unusually high number of breakouts today are a result of short covering, I'll post the list of alerts issued today and their status at market close. I would be very interested to hear what the verdict is on short covering. Symbol BoP Close BoV Volume Status ------ --- ----- --- ------ ------ KWD 29.60 29.73 275337 293600 Breakout Sustained VIP 38.79 39.38 387123 337900 Insufficient volume ABV 16.48 16.58 586101 602700 Breakout Sustained ACTI 9.61 9.40 426648 673002 Failed on price ALTR 15.15 15.20 12922464 15548002 Breakout Sustained CYBX 20.00 19.97 261645 271400 Failed on price IBM 83.50 84.90 12962175 12525300 Insufficient volume ITU 25.90 27.13 152772 104600 Insufficient volume JEC 42.44 41.97 511167 844700 Failed on price LLTC 34.87 34.91 10076322 8493255 Insufficient volume POWI 23.48 23.86 1156207 1187187 Breakout Sustained RCII 54.60 56.60 819613 476944 Insufficient volume SBUX 25.75 26.35 6397516 6129293 Insufficient volume SRCL 38.79 39.42 629319 622635 Insufficient volume SRNA 16.00 16.35 675135 1066951 Breakout Sustained DRTE 10.13 9.67 255486 133140 Failed on price Insufficient volume FLR 34.25 34.99 729579 847000 Breakout Sustained SNDK 20.85 20.47 4619439 3520486 Failed on price Insufficient volume TNOX 11.60 11.16 207510 455745 Failed on price Please note that these are stocks breaking out from a CwH pattern, not breakouts from any other kind of base. Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ian Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:21 PM Hi Mike: May I ask if all 8 of them were heavily shorted issues? The reason I ask is that I'm still seeing most of the action in the stocks with the largest short positions. I'm not sure what CANSLIM has to say about it, but my gut tells me that it implies extra caution. Is it permitted to share todays 'breakouts' with this list, or is that proprietary information? Also, since the initial market breakdown in September 2000, the 40-week ema of the OEX has provided a ceiling for every single bear-market rally. (http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/main.asp?time=10&freq=2&co mpidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp=&ma=6&maval=13%2C40%2C200&uf=8&lf=268435456&lf2=4&lf3=8 &type=2&style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=&startdate=&enddate=&show=true&symb=oe x&draw.x=54&draw.y=14) As we stand now with the OEX at 456, that ceiling is a meagre 5 points away right now. I would argue for close market scurtiny at that level. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:16 AM > All, > > For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 > breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have > noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am > wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > > Katherine, any comments? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Niemotka , PE > Sr. Principal Engineer > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > Route 120 & Wilson Road > Round Lake, IL 60073 > Tel (847) 270-4075 > Fax (847) 270-4525 > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Katona" Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest - Too good to be true? Date: 21 Mar 2003 17:55:23 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2EFD3.0B975440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I just attended a VectorVest free 4 hour seminar on ProGraphics v6.0 and ProTrader. I have never used VectorVest. Interesting stuff, I'm getting the five week trial to get some experience using it. Mark Blake from VectorVest described how by using the portfolio manager that since 2/7/01 using MTI (market timing indicator) crossing over the +1.5 and -.5 lines, "c-notes, hooks and sinkers" strategy plus "jubilee" strategy (canned strategies with program) you 'could have' gained 4,000+% in the last 2 years with an 82% success rate! With other devices (leaps, etc) one could have achieved 87,000% gains! Back testing easily shows that this could have been done. I know there are a few VectorVest users on this list and I'd like to hear your experience. To me, there are some interesting tools but this sound 'too good to be true." Why do I need anything else, why not just use their canned strategies (which one, I'm not sure except for the ones mentioned above)? Why not use their MTI, buy, sell, hold recommendations for shorting, going long? Have you achieved these kind of gains and success rates? Does the theory match your actual experience and practice? What are the real positives and negatives of VectorVest? Can VectorVest complement CANSLIM or are they completely separate approaches ? With a $645 cost and these kind of returns the ROI would be great. With some daily programming I could sit by the pool and watch the money roll in! (I wish.) Thanks in advance for your time and efforts. Tim ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2EFD3.0B975440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I = just attended a=20 VectorVest free 4 hour seminar on ProGraphics v6.0 and ProTrader. I have = never=20 used VectorVest. Interesting stuff, I'm getting the five week trial to = get some=20 experience using it.
 
Mark = Blake from=20 VectorVest described how by using the portfolio manager that since = 2/7/01=20 using MTI (market timing indicator) crossing over the +1.5 and -.5 = lines,=20 "c-notes, hooks and sinkers" strategy plus "jubilee" strategy (canned = strategies=20 with program) you 'could have' gained 4,000+% in the last 2 years with = an 82%=20 success rate! With other devices (leaps, etc) one could have achieved = 87,000%=20 gains!  Back testing easily shows that this could = have been=20 done.
 
I = know there are a=20 few VectorVest users on this list and I'd like to hear your experience. = To me,=20 there are some interesting tools but this sound 'too good to be=20 true."  Why do I need anything else, why not just use their = canned=20 strategies (which one, I'm not sure except for the ones mentioned = above)? Why=20 not use their MTI, buy, sell, hold recommendations for shorting, going = long?=20 Have you achieved these kind of gains and success rates? Does the theory = match=20 your actual experience and practice? What are the real positives and = negatives=20 of VectorVest?
 
Can VectorVest=20 complement CANSLIM or are they completely separate=20 approaches ?
 
With = a $645 cost=20 and these kind of returns the ROI would be great. With some daily = programming I=20 could sit by the pool and watch the money roll in! (I = wish.)
 
Thanks in advance=20 for your time and efforts.
Tim
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2EFD3.0B975440-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 19:46:28 -0800 Hi Mike: Thanks a lot for the list (I think it is probably good promotion for your service, as it give folks a chance to look closely at the kinds of stocks/setups that you are alerting on). I will go over your list in detail this weekend, and post my 2 cents worth on Sunday. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:12 PM > Ian, > > We do not normally release our breakout alerts as they are proprietary, as > Mike Niemotka has already explained. However, in view of your posing the > possibility that an unusually high number of breakouts today are a result of > short covering, I'll post the list of alerts issued today and their status > at market close. I would be very interested to hear what the verdict is on > short covering. > > Symbol BoP Close BoV Volume Status > ------ --- ----- --- ------ ------ > KWD 29.60 29.73 275337 293600 Breakout Sustained > VIP 38.79 39.38 387123 337900 Insufficient volume > ABV 16.48 16.58 586101 602700 Breakout Sustained > ACTI 9.61 9.40 426648 673002 Failed on price > ALTR 15.15 15.20 12922464 15548002 Breakout Sustained > CYBX 20.00 19.97 261645 271400 Failed on price > IBM 83.50 84.90 12962175 12525300 Insufficient volume > ITU 25.90 27.13 152772 104600 Insufficient volume > JEC 42.44 41.97 511167 844700 Failed on price > LLTC 34.87 34.91 10076322 8493255 Insufficient volume > POWI 23.48 23.86 1156207 1187187 Breakout Sustained > RCII 54.60 56.60 819613 476944 Insufficient volume > SBUX 25.75 26.35 6397516 6129293 Insufficient volume > SRCL 38.79 39.42 629319 622635 Insufficient volume > SRNA 16.00 16.35 675135 1066951 Breakout Sustained > DRTE 10.13 9.67 255486 133140 Failed on price Insufficient > volume > FLR 34.25 34.99 729579 847000 Breakout Sustained > SNDK 20.85 20.47 4619439 3520486 Failed on price Insufficient > volume > TNOX 11.60 11.16 207510 455745 Failed on price > > Please note that these are stocks breaking out from a CwH pattern, not > breakouts from any other kind of base. > > Aloha, > > Mike Gibbons > Proactive Technologies, LLC > http://www.proactech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ian > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:21 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > > Hi Mike: > > May I ask if all 8 of them were heavily shorted issues? The reason I ask is > that I'm still seeing most of the action in the stocks with the largest > short positions. I'm not sure what CANSLIM has to say about it, but my gut > tells me that it implies extra caution. Is it permitted to share todays > 'breakouts' with this list, or is that proprietary information? > > > Also, since the initial market breakdown in September 2000, the 40-week ema > of the OEX has provided a ceiling for every single bear-market rally. > (http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/main.asp?time=10&freq=2&co > mpidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp=&ma=6&maval=13%2C40%2C200&uf=8&lf=268435456&lf2=4&lf3=8 > &type=2&style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=&startdate=&enddate=&show=true&symb=oe > x&draw.x=54&draw.y=14) > > As we stand now with the OEX at 456, that ceiling is a meagre 5 points away > right now. I would argue for close market scurtiny at that level. > > > Cheers, > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:16 AM > Subject: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > > > All, > > > > For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 > > breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have > > noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am > > wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > > > > Katherine, any comments? > > > > Thanks > > > > Mike > > > > Mike Niemotka , PE > > Sr. Principal Engineer > > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > > Route 120 & Wilson Road > > Round Lake, IL 60073 > > Tel (847) 270-4075 > > Fax (847) 270-4525 > > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 21 Mar 2003 21:34:44 -0600 Hi Ian, One thing I should clarify is that our watchlist generation program is agnostic and is based *only* on whether or not the stock meets the *technical* requirements for a cup and handle setup. That is, a stock can set up and/or stage an attempted breakout even if it does not have the preferred CANSLIM *fundamental* characteristics. Other tools at our site assist the user in focusing their attention on fundamentally superior stocks appearing on a watchlist if they so choose. In other words, a stock can break out of an intermediate term consolidation such as a cup and handle without necessarily being a "CANSLIM quality" stock. The market dictates where money is flowing at the time, and it is not always into growth stocks. That said, as I mentioned earlier today, many of today's breakouts did indeed fit the "CANSLIM quality" moniker due to very strong growth fundamental characteristics. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ian Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:46 PM Hi Mike: Thanks a lot for the list (I think it is probably good promotion for your service, as it give folks a chance to look closely at the kinds of stocks/setups that you are alerting on). I will go over your list in detail this weekend, and post my 2 cents worth on Sunday. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:12 PM > Ian, > > We do not normally release our breakout alerts as they are proprietary, as > Mike Niemotka has already explained. However, in view of your posing the > possibility that an unusually high number of breakouts today are a result of > short covering, I'll post the list of alerts issued today and their status > at market close. I would be very interested to hear what the verdict is on > short covering. > > Symbol BoP Close BoV Volume Status > ------ --- ----- --- ------ ------ > KWD 29.60 29.73 275337 293600 Breakout Sustained > VIP 38.79 39.38 387123 337900 Insufficient volume > ABV 16.48 16.58 586101 602700 Breakout Sustained > ACTI 9.61 9.40 426648 673002 Failed on price > ALTR 15.15 15.20 12922464 15548002 Breakout Sustained > CYBX 20.00 19.97 261645 271400 Failed on price > IBM 83.50 84.90 12962175 12525300 Insufficient volume > ITU 25.90 27.13 152772 104600 Insufficient volume > JEC 42.44 41.97 511167 844700 Failed on price > LLTC 34.87 34.91 10076322 8493255 Insufficient volume > POWI 23.48 23.86 1156207 1187187 Breakout Sustained > RCII 54.60 56.60 819613 476944 Insufficient volume > SBUX 25.75 26.35 6397516 6129293 Insufficient volume > SRCL 38.79 39.42 629319 622635 Insufficient volume > SRNA 16.00 16.35 675135 1066951 Breakout Sustained > DRTE 10.13 9.67 255486 133140 Failed on price Insufficient > volume > FLR 34.25 34.99 729579 847000 Breakout Sustained > SNDK 20.85 20.47 4619439 3520486 Failed on price Insufficient > volume > TNOX 11.60 11.16 207510 455745 Failed on price > > Please note that these are stocks breaking out from a CwH pattern, not > breakouts from any other kind of base. > > Aloha, > > Mike Gibbons > Proactive Technologies, LLC > http://www.proactech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ian > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:21 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > > Hi Mike: > > May I ask if all 8 of them were heavily shorted issues? The reason I ask is > that I'm still seeing most of the action in the stocks with the largest > short positions. I'm not sure what CANSLIM has to say about it, but my gut > tells me that it implies extra caution. Is it permitted to share todays > 'breakouts' with this list, or is that proprietary information? > > > Also, since the initial market breakdown in September 2000, the 40-week ema > of the OEX has provided a ceiling for every single bear-market rally. > (http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/main.asp?time=10&freq=2&co > mpidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp=&ma=6&maval=13%2C40%2C200&uf=8&lf=268435456&lf2=4&lf3=8 > &type=2&style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=&startdate=&enddate=&show=true&symb=oe > x&draw.x=54&draw.y=14) > > As we stand now with the OEX at 456, that ceiling is a meagre 5 points away > right now. I would argue for close market scurtiny at that level. > > > Cheers, > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:16 AM > Subject: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > > > All, > > > > For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 > > breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have > > noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am > > wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > > > > Katherine, any comments? > > > > Thanks > > > > Mike > > > > Mike Niemotka , PE > > Sr. Principal Engineer > > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > > Route 120 & Wilson Road > > Round Lake, IL 60073 > > Tel (847) 270-4075 > > Fax (847) 270-4525 > > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] VectorVest - Too good to be true? Date: 21 Mar 2003 22:17:10 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C2EFF7.9DB6D200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim, I strongly suggest that you join the following user group and ask = your questions there: vectorvestonlineusersgroup@yahoogroups.com=20 You have to be a subscriber (yes, trials apply) to join and it takes a = couple days.=20 Contact me offline if you have some specific questions about VV. Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tim Katona=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:55 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest - Too good to be true? Hi, I just attended a VectorVest free 4 hour seminar on ProGraphics v6.0 = and ProTrader. I have never used VectorVest. Interesting stuff, I'm = getting the five week trial to get some experience using it. Mark Blake from VectorVest described how by using the portfolio = manager that since 2/7/01 using MTI (market timing indicator) crossing = over the +1.5 and -.5 lines, "c-notes, hooks and sinkers" strategy plus = "jubilee" strategy (canned strategies with program) you 'could have' = gained 4,000+% in the last 2 years with an 82% success rate! With other = devices (leaps, etc) one could have achieved 87,000% gains! Back = testing easily shows that this could have been done.=20 I know there are a few VectorVest users on this list and I'd like to = hear your experience. To me, there are some interesting tools but this = sound 'too good to be true." Why do I need anything else, why not just = use their canned strategies (which one, I'm not sure except for the ones = mentioned above)? Why not use their MTI, buy, sell, hold recommendations = for shorting, going long? Have you achieved these kind of gains and = success rates? Does the theory match your actual experience and = practice? What are the real positives and negatives of VectorVest? Can VectorVest complement CANSLIM or are they completely separate = approaches ? With a $645 cost and these kind of returns the ROI would be great. = With some daily programming I could sit by the pool and watch the money = roll in! (I wish.) Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.=20 Tim ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C2EFF7.9DB6D200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tim, I strongly suggest that = you join the=20 following user group and ask your questions there:
 
vectorvestonli= neusersgroup@yahoogroups.com=20
 
You have to be a subscriber = (yes, trials=20 apply) to join and it takes a couple days. 
 
Contact me offline if you = have some=20 specific questions about VV.
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tim=20 Katona
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 = 7:55=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] VectorVest - = Too good=20 to be true?

Hi,
I = just attended a=20 VectorVest free 4 hour seminar on ProGraphics v6.0 and ProTrader. I = have never=20 used VectorVest. Interesting stuff, I'm getting the five week trial to = get=20 some experience using it.
 
Mark Blake from=20 VectorVest described how by using the portfolio manager that = since 2/7/01=20 using MTI (market timing indicator) crossing over the +1.5 and -.5 = lines,=20 "c-notes, hooks and sinkers" strategy plus "jubilee" strategy (canned=20 strategies with program) you 'could have' gained 4,000+% in the last 2 = years=20 with an 82% success rate! With other devices (leaps, etc) one could = have=20 achieved 87,000% gains!  Back testing easily shows that this could = have been=20 done.
 
I = know there are=20 a few VectorVest users on this list and I'd like to hear your = experience. To=20 me, there are some interesting tools but this sound 'too good to be=20 true."  Why do I need anything else, why not just use their = canned=20 strategies (which one, I'm not sure except for the ones mentioned = above)? Why=20 not use their MTI, buy, sell, hold recommendations for shorting, going = long?=20 Have you achieved these kind of gains and success rates? Does the = theory match=20 your actual experience and practice? What are the real positives and = negatives=20 of VectorVest?
 
Can VectorVest complement CANSLIM or = are they=20 completely separate approaches ?
 
With a $645 cost=20 and these kind of returns the ROI would be great. With some daily = programming=20 I could sit by the pool and watch the money roll in! (I=20 wish.)
 
Thanks in advance=20 for your time and efforts.
Tim
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If I call Schwab, the brokers are able to place a stop order inside of these big ranges, and they will give me the Internet price since their software won't let me do it myself. Mike ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:22 PM > I have had several stop orders rejected by E*Trade > recently and would like to know if other brokers have > the same restrictions. E*Trade requires the stop > price to be: > > at least Ask + $0.10 for a buy order > at most Bid - $0.10 for a sell order > > Further aggravating the situation, my rejected orders > were placed after the market had closed when > (according to E*Trade) the Bid and/or Ask prices are > essentially undefined. Has anyone had a similar > experience with other brokers? > > > My correspondence with E*Trade follows: > > I tried to place a stop order on 3/19/03 at approx. > 1:00 am EDT, clearly after the market had closed. The > order I wanted to place was: > > Buy 500 PWI, STOP @ $16.98 > > The order was rejected so I tried a market order for > the same security. The confirmation page for the > order (which I canceled) showed the following for PWI: > > Price: $16.80 > Bid: $13.12 > Ask: $33.76 > > I assume that my stop order was rejected because it > was not outside of the bid/ask price range. Where did > these prices for the bid/ask come from??!! The ask > price is 70% higher than the 52-week high for PWI! > > I experienced a similar problem the day before on an > order for DAKT. The price spread was not as > unbelievable as the one for PWI but my order was still > rejected. > > E*Trade's response: > > The skewed Bid/Ask that you see when the market is > closed is simply information that the market maker > reports once the market is closed. It is not > indicative of any actual Bid or Ask for that very > reason. As such, it means that most stop orders have > to be placed when the market is open as the orders > need to be at least $0.10 above the Ask for a buy > order and $0.10 below the Bid for a sell order. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 23 Mar 2003 09:34:40 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2F11F.6DE0E290 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0068_01C2F11F.6DE0E290" ------=_NextPart_001_0068_01C2F11F.6DE0E290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ECONOMICS Housing starts tumbled 11% in February to a 1.622 million unit rate, = well under the 1.723 million expected. Severe weather was blamed. = Permits, however, continued to show strength and positive expectation = for the future, rising 0.4% to 1.786 million despite expectations for a = drop to 1.73 million. FOMC did as expected, and did nothing with rates on Tuesday, instead = opting to signal the potential for a rate cut between meetings by = admitting that they don't know which is the greater threat to the = economy, inflation, or continued weakness. The "heightened surveillance" = message clearly means they are ready to cut again depending on a number = of events, including the progress of the Iraq war, further terrorist = activity, or further economic sluggishness or even increased weakness = once worry over Iraq is resolved. The rally this week in the markets, = and the progress of the war, if both continue, likely mean no further = rate cuts, certainly not before the May meeting. In further confirmation of recent data showing a weakening labor market, = weekly new claims for unemployment remained high, slipping only 4,000 to = 421,000 and in line with expectations. The 4 week average of new claims = rose to 424,750, and continuing claims rose to 3.55 million from 3.48 = million. Index of leading economic indicators fell in February for the first time = in five months, dropping 0.4% and in line with expectations. CPI in February rose 0.6%, primarily because of a 5.9% increase in = energy prices. Food was also up 0.7%. The core rate was a tame 0.1% = increase. Expected was an overall increase of 0.5%, and a core rate gain = of 0.2%. ------- "M" As the week ends, some of the uncertainty of war with Iraq is finally = over, especially the "when", and to some degree the "how fast" and "how = much damage to the oil fields". Reflecting this, gold and oil prices = continued to retreat sharply, and the dollar strengthened. The southern = oil fields were already in coalition hands, and the wells, pumping = stations, separators, and marine terminals were captured virtually = intact with minimal damage. A handful of wells were on fire, and = expected to be extinguished within a month or so. Allied forces were = advancing rapidly and with limited loss of life, even though any lives = lost is still tragic. But the allied forces will only go up against the = best of Iraqi military in the next two days, that will be the first clue = to the degree of difficulty in liberating central and northern Iraq, = including the northern oil fields. Of the major indexes, the DOW 30 and the S&P500 both joined NASDAQ in = positive territory for the year, and are all well over both the 50 and = 200 dma. The NYSE Composite is within striking distance of its 200 dma, = as are most of the other indexes. A test of the October lows is, for the = moment, last week's news. Volume has finally picked up, running average = or better for over a week on most indexes. Both NYSE and NASDAQ are back = into overbought territory, a place they have not seen for a while. And = while up/down volume has surged strongly to the positive, the new highs = / lows ratio continues to lag substantially even while closing the gap, = a good indication of just how much the markets have depressed in past = months, and how much of the rally is institutionally driven in only big = and mid cap stocks. The cost of the war, and the humanitarian aid and reconstruction, is yet = to be assessed, but the US can apply the $30 billion in aid that Turkey = spurned by refusing cooperation. And already a move is being made to tap = the over $40 billion built up and backlogged by the UN Security Council = (almost two years of oil income, no wonder the people of Iraq are = starving) in the oil for food program from Iraqi oil (previously almost = exclusively to the benefit of French and Russian companies). Aside from = UK, the rest of Europe cannot be expected to lend much help in the costs = of recovery. After 8 straight days of positive numbers in the market = (including the best day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or = so years), how much longer can the rally last? If you were not ready = with your watch list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? = There are indications that much money is still sidelined by = institutional managers, and could be pumped in next week, in part for = the last week of window dressing. But soon Iraq will be last week's = news, and the markets will again focus on economic issues and = employment, both of which are very weak. This rally has been marked with = a number of breakouts with quality, I will focus my review of charts = looking for ones that have not already reached excessive extension. It = still appears to me that we are in a bull rally within a bear market = trend, only time will tell if the bear is ready to go into it's cave, = and stay there this time. Economics, employment and consumer sentiment = suggests not, but the latter can change very rapidly and drag the other = two along. ------- WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20 This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It = is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's = "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with = constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from = (and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in = Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views = or opinions of my employer. I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, = and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout = scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, = focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all = industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast = for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no = due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM = patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases = (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR = (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my = personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any = stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest, whether = real money or virtual reality (VR). The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend surged strongly, = growing nearly 50%. Many (most?) good CANSLIM stocks are already well = extended. AFL - love the duck, handle possibly forming, volume never dried up BLL - broke pivot Friday on volume BWS - right at pivot on Friday on 2X ADV DF - breaking out from a B4 DNEX - B5 EDUC - B4, low price, low liquidity, in my VR Fund ERES - LLUR FBP - c&h, approaching handle pivot FOX - saucer GAF - B10 HRZB - B8 ICST - c&h, volume declined early in the handle, picking up now IDXX - c&h JCOM - may be a handleless cup MFSF - B5 ODFL - c&h OZRK - B9+ PFCB - c&h, nice b/o Friday on heavy volume PKTR - high handle? PORT - LLUR RTLX - c&h, at pivot, low liquidity, in my VR Fund TTC - b/o Friday from a B5- UCBH - b/o Friday from a c&h below the left rim VTAL - c&h, low priced America is at war, God bless our military, they deserve our support, no = matter what you think about going to war Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley ------=_NextPart_001_0068_01C2F11F.6DE0E290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ECONOMICS
Housing starts tumbled 11% in February to a = 1.622 million=20 unit rate, well under the 1.723 million expected. Severe weather was = blamed.=20 Permits, however, continued to show strength and positive expectation = for the=20 future, rising 0.4% to 1.786 million despite expectations for a drop to = 1.73=20 million.
 
FOMC did as expected, and did nothing with rates = on=20 Tuesday, instead opting to signal the potential for a rate cut between = meetings=20 by admitting that they don't know which is the greater threat to the = economy,=20 inflation, or continued weakness. The "heightened surveillance" message = clearly=20 means they are ready to cut again depending on a number of events, = including the=20 progress of the Iraq war, further terrorist activity, or further = economic=20 sluggishness or even increased weakness once worry over Iraq is = resolved. The=20 rally this week in the markets, and the progress of the war, if both = continue,=20 likely mean no further rate cuts, certainly not before the May=20 meeting.
 
In further confirmation of recent data showing a = weakening=20 labor market, weekly new claims for unemployment remained high, slipping = only=20 4,000 to 421,000 and in line with expectations. The 4 week average of = new claims=20 rose to 424,750, and continuing claims rose to 3.55 million from 3.48=20 million.
 
Index of leading economic indicators fell in = February for=20 the first time in five months, dropping 0.4% and in line with=20 expectations.
 
CPI in February rose 0.6%, primarily because of = a 5.9%=20 increase in energy prices. Food was also up 0.7%. The core rate was a = tame 0.1%=20 increase. Expected was an overall increase of 0.5%, and a core rate gain = of=20 0.2%.
"M"
As the week ends, some of the uncertainty of war = with Iraq=20 is finally over, especially the "when", and to some degree the "how = fast" and=20 "how much damage to the oil fields". Reflecting this, gold and oil = prices=20 continued to retreat sharply, and the dollar strengthened. The southern = oil=20 fields were already in coalition hands, and the wells, pumping stations, = separators, and marine terminals were captured virtually intact with = minimal=20 damage. A handful of wells were on fire, and expected to be extinguished = within=20 a month or so. Allied forces were advancing rapidly and with limited = loss of=20 life, even though any lives lost is still tragic. But the allied forces = will=20 only go up against the best of Iraqi military in the next two days, that = will be=20 the first clue to the degree of difficulty in liberating central and = northern=20 Iraq, including the northern oil fields.
 
Of the major indexes, the DOW 30 and the = S&P500 both=20 joined NASDAQ in positive territory for the year, and are all well over = both the=20 50 and 200 dma. The NYSE Composite is within striking distance of its = 200 dma,=20 as are most of the other indexes. A test of the October lows is, for the = moment,=20 last week's news. Volume has finally picked up, running average or = better for=20 over a week on most indexes. Both NYSE and NASDAQ are back into = overbought=20 territory, a place they have not seen for a while. And while up/down = volume has=20 surged strongly to the positive, the new highs / lows ratio continues to = lag=20 substantially even while closing the gap, a good indication of just how = much the=20 markets have depressed in past months, and how much of the rally is=20 institutionally driven in only big and mid cap stocks.
 
The cost of the war, and the humanitarian aid = and=20 reconstruction, is yet to be assessed, but the US can apply the $30 = billion in=20 aid that Turkey spurned by refusing cooperation. And already a move is = being=20 made to tap the over $40 billion built up and backlogged by the UN = Security=20 Council (almost two years of oil income, no wonder the people of Iraq = are=20 starving) in the oil for food program from Iraqi oil (previously almost=20 exclusively to the benefit of French and Russian companies). Aside from = UK, the=20 rest of Europe cannot be expected to lend much help in the costs of = recovery.=20 After 8 straight days of positive numbers in the market (including the = best day=20 in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or so years), how much = longer can=20 the rally last? If you were not ready with your watch list, or are not = already=20 fully invested, is it too late? There are indications that much money is = still=20 sidelined by institutional managers, and could be pumped in next week, = in part=20 for the last week of window dressing. But soon Iraq will be last week's = news,=20 and the markets will again focus on economic issues and employment, both = of=20 which are very weak. This rally has been marked with a number of = breakouts with=20 quality, I will focus my review of charts looking for ones that have not = already=20 reached excessive extension. It still appears to me that we are in a = bull rally=20 within a bear market trend, only time will tell if the bear is ready to = go into=20 it's cave, and stay there this time. Economics, employment and consumer=20 sentiment suggests not, but the latter can change very rapidly and = drag the=20 other two along.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20
This list is in no way intended to recommend any = stocks to=20 the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health = of=20 CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some = stocks=20 with constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from (and of = course doing=20 your own due diligence). I am employed = in=20 Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly=20 my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or = opinions of=20 my employer.
 
I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS = ranking of 80=20 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition = /=20 buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet = this general RS/EPS=20 criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I = consider all=20 industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal=20 investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings = forecast=20 for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due diligence, that is your = responsibility. I will=20 note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) = bottoms, or=20 flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also = note LLUR=20 (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely=20 are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due = size,=20 price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a = current=20 personal financial interest, whether real money or virtual reality=20 (VR).
 
The population of stocks I am reviewing this = weekend=20 surged strongly, growing nearly 50%. Many (most?) good CANSLIM stocks = are=20 already well extended.
 
AFL - love the duck, handle possibly forming, volume never dried = up
BLL - broke pivot Friday on volume
BWS - right at pivot on Friday on 2X ADV
DF - breaking out from a B4
DNEX - B5
EDUC - B4, low price, low liquidity, in my VR Fund
ERES - LLUR
FBP - c&h, approaching handle pivot
FOX - saucer
GAF - B10
HRZB - B8
ICST - c&h, volume declined early in the handle, picking up = now
IDXX - c&h
JCOM - may be a handleless cup
MFSF - B5
ODFL - c&h
OZRK - B9+
PFCB - c&h, nice b/o Friday on heavy volume
PKTR - high handle?
PORT - LLUR
RTLX - c&h, at pivot, low liquidity, in my VR Fund
TTC  - b/o Friday from a B5-
UCBH - b/o Friday from a c&h below the left rim
VTAL - c&h, low priced
 
America is at war, God bless our military, they deserve our = support, no=20 matter what you think about going to=20 war
 
3D""
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: = TexWorley
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ANSI Date: 23 Mar 2003 21:50:10 EST Peter: Just my observation: ANSI's day chart shows weak divergence in the RS-Line compared with its 2/20 $39.35 previous peak. That and the fact that volume is trending down compared with its 2 previous peaks would lead me to view ANSI warily (especially if I already had profits at this stage). jans - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 23 Mar 2003 20:42:28 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C2F17C.B7BC39C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this and past weeks). What do you mean by = the best day in 20 years? I can't come up with a specific date, but = seems to me in the 90s there were the occasional 5%+ days. Rolf ----- "M" After 8 straight days of positive numbers in the market (including the = best day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or so years), how = much longer can the rally last? If you were not ready with your watch = list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? There are = indications that much money is still sidelined by institutional = managers, and could be pumped in next week, in part for the last week of = window dressing.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C2F17C.B7BC39C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this and = past=20 weeks).  What do you mean by the best day in 20 years?  I = can't come=20 up with a specific date, but seems to me in the 90s there were the = occasional=20 5%+ days.
 
 Rolf
"M"
After 8 straight days of positive numbers in = the market=20 (including the best day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or = so=20 years), how much longer can the rally last? If you were not ready with = your=20 watch list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? There = are=20 indications that much money is still sidelined by institutional = managers, and=20 could be pumped in next week, in part for the last week of window = dressing.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C2F17C.B7BC39C0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 23 Mar 2003 19:51:21 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2F175.93EDD460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom-sorry to bother you about this but where is you VR fund please?? nanc= y ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:35 PM Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this and past weeks). What do you mean by = the best day in 20 years? I can't come up with a specific date, but seem= s to me in the 90s there were the occasional 5%+ days. Rolf "M" After 8 straight days of positive numbers in the market (including the be= st day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or so years), how much= longer can the rally last? If you were not ready with your watch list, o= r are not already fully invested, is it too late? There are indications t= hat much money is still sidelined by institutional managers, and could be= pumped in next week, in part for the last week of window dressing. =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2F175.93EDD460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom-sorry to bother you about this but wh= ere is you VR fund please?? nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rolf Hertenstein
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:35 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley= 's Weekend Weeview
 
Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this and past weeks).  What do you m= ean by the best day in 20 years?  I can't come up with a specific da= te, but seems to me in the 90s there were the occasional 5%+ days.=
 
 Rolf
"M"
After 8 straight days of positive numbers in the market = (including the best day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or so= years), how much longer can the rally last? If you were not ready with y= our watch list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? There = are indications that much money is still sidelined by institutional manag= ers, and could be pumped in next week, in part for the last week of windo= w dressing.
------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2F175.93EDD460-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 23 Mar 2003 23:29:12 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2F194.031B4D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nancy, the fund is at marketocracy.com, but unless I make the top 100 in = ranking, it's not publicly accessible. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:51 PM Tom-sorry to bother you about this but where is you VR fund please?? = nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Rolf Hertenstein Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:35 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this and past weeks). What do you mean = by the best day in 20 years? I can't come up with a specific date, but = seems to me in the 90s there were the occasional 5%+ days. Rolf --- "M" After 8 straight days of positive numbers in the market (including = the best day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or so years), = how much longer can the rally last? If you were not ready with your = watch list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? There are = indications that much money is still sidelined by institutional = managers, and could be pumped in next week, in part for the last week of = window dressing. ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2F194.031B4D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nancy, the fund is at marketocracy.com, = but unless=20 I make the top 100 in ranking, it's not publicly = accessible.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

Tom-sorry to bother you about this but where is you VR fund = please??=20 nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rolf Hertenstein
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 = 7:35=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's = Weekend=20 Weeview
 
Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this = and past=20 weeks).  What do you mean by the best day in 20 years?  I = can't come=20 up with a specific date, but seems to me in the 90s there were the = occasional=20 5%+ days.
 
 Rolf
"M"
After 8 straight days of positive numbers in = the=20 market (including the best day in 20 years, and one of the best = weeks in 4=20 or so years), how much longer can the rally last? If you were not = ready with=20 your watch list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? = There=20 are indications that much money is still sidelined by institutional=20 managers, and could be pumped in next week, in part for the last = week of=20 window dressing. =
------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2F194.031B4D90-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 23 Mar 2003 23:28:30 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C2F193.E98F89E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry Rolf, should have checked my notes a little closer. It was the = best week (not day) (up 8.4% on the DOW) in 20 years, and Friday was one = of the best days in about 4 years. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:42 PM Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this and past weeks). What do you mean by = the best day in 20 years? I can't come up with a specific date, but = seems to me in the 90s there were the occasional 5%+ days. Rolf ----- "M" After 8 straight days of positive numbers in the market (including the = best day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or so years), how = much longer can the rally last? If you were not ready with your watch = list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? There are = indications that much money is still sidelined by institutional = managers, and could be pumped in next week, in part for the last week of = window dressing. ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C2F193.E98F89E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry Rolf, should have checked my notes a = little closer.=20 It was the best week (not day) (up 8.4% on the DOW) in 20 years, and = Friday was=20 one of the best days in about 4 years.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rolf=20 Hertenstein
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

Hi Tom - Thanks for the Weev (this and = past=20 weeks).  What do you mean by the best day in 20 years?  I = can't come=20 up with a specific date, but seems to me in the 90s there were the = occasional=20 5%+ days.
 
 Rolf
"M"
After 8 straight days of positive numbers in = the market=20 (including the best day in 20 years, and one of the best weeks in 4 or = so=20 years), how much longer can the rally last? If you were not ready with = your=20 watch list, or are not already fully invested, is it too late? There = are=20 indications that much money is still sidelined by institutional = managers, and=20 could be pumped in next week, in part for the last week of window = dressing.=20
------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C2F193.E98F89E0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Harmelink" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version Date: 23 Mar 2003 22:55:42 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01CF_01C2F18F.556CB480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try these: http://host.wallstreetcity.com/wsc2/Industry_Group_Analysis.html?Button=3D= BEST&Range=3D6&Symbol=3D.ALL&template=3Dindbest.htm http://www2.barchart.com/secmoves.asp?sort=3D&what=3Dsix_month&start=3Dal= l http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/industry/bigcharts-com/default.asp?bcind= _compidx=3D&bcind_period=3D6mo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not Use WallStreetCity for Industry Groups = - smaller version great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I found = the industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups = advance or decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss = it?? Thanks again nancy ------=_NextPart_000_01CF_01C2F18F.556CB480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try these:
 
http://host.wallstreetcity.com/wsc2/Industry_Group_Analysis.html?Button=3D= BEST&Range=3D6&Symbol=3D.ALL&template=3Dindbest.htm
 
http://www2.barchart.com/secmoves.asp?sort=3D&what= =3Dsix_month&start=3Dall
 
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.= com/industry/bigcharts-com/default.asp?bcind_compidx=3D&bcind_period=3D= 6mo
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 = 2:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Why Not = Use=20 WallStreetCity for Industry Groups - smaller version

great site gene-I looked but didnt see what Im looking for. I = found the=20 industry groups and all the stocks with in them, but not the groups = advance or=20 decline monthly over the last 6 months or year-did I miss it?? Thanks = again=20 nancy
------=_NextPart_000_01CF_01C2F18F.556CB480-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts Date: 24 Mar 2003 09:48:16 -0800 Hi Mike: It is interesting to me that there is not really strong evidence of disproportionate short-covering in your breakout list. (My own watch lists all had huge gainers in heavily shorted positions on Friday). Here is the data for the stocks on your list (from Feb 10 NYSE Short Interest): Symbol Shares Short % of Float Days to Cover ------------ --------------------- ------------ ---------- ------- KWD 974,000 4.2 6.81 VIP 1,030,000 3.2 4.47 ABV 1,160,000 0.4 3.57 ACTI 392,000 1.0 3.47 ALTR 12,500,000 3.3 1.36 CYBX 841,000 4.2 5.13 IBM 25,600,000 1.5 2.94 ITU 539,000 0.3 4.95 JEC 1,980,000 4.2 6.45 LLTC 11,000,000 3.5 1.66 POWI 3,030,000 10.8 3.61 RCII 2,090,000 13.9 3.16 SBUX 13,800,000 3.7 3.07 SRCL 4,420,000 15.4 10.35 SRNA 3,750,000 17.2 9.14 DRTE 868,000 2.4 5.71 FLR 1,990,000 2.6 5.19 SNDK 10,800,000 16.5 3.05 TNOX 801,000 3.7 5.24 POWI, RCII, SRCL, SRNA and SNDK are the only ones with exceptionally high short positions as a % of their float. KWD, JEC, SRCL and SRNA have the highest short ratio. So on balance, SRCL and SRNA are really the only two that I would question as to whether or not the buying is being driven by short-covering. (Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, except when it appears to be the primary driving force of the broad market, IMHO.) We never did get to properly test the 40-week EMA on the OEX today. I still look at that level as the strongest test for the broad market, as it has been a hard ceiling since the beginning of this bear. Cheers, Ian PS - I cannot help but thinking that you guys are really on to something as a list of longs when the breakouts suceed on sustained higher volume, and great shorts when the breakouts fail and the charts are very sloppy. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:12 PM > Ian, > > We do not normally release our breakout alerts as they are proprietary, as > Mike Niemotka has already explained. However, in view of your posing the > possibility that an unusually high number of breakouts today are a result of > short covering, I'll post the list of alerts issued today and their status > at market close. I would be very interested to hear what the verdict is on > short covering. > > Symbol BoP Close BoV Volume Status > ------ --- ----- --- ------ ------ > KWD 29.60 29.73 275337 293600 Breakout Sustained > VIP 38.79 39.38 387123 337900 Insufficient volume > ABV 16.48 16.58 586101 602700 Breakout Sustained > ACTI 9.61 9.40 426648 673002 Failed on price > ALTR 15.15 15.20 12922464 15548002 Breakout Sustained > CYBX 20.00 19.97 261645 271400 Failed on price > IBM 83.50 84.90 12962175 12525300 Insufficient volume > ITU 25.90 27.13 152772 104600 Insufficient volume > JEC 42.44 41.97 511167 844700 Failed on price > LLTC 34.87 34.91 10076322 8493255 Insufficient volume > POWI 23.48 23.86 1156207 1187187 Breakout Sustained > RCII 54.60 56.60 819613 476944 Insufficient volume > SBUX 25.75 26.35 6397516 6129293 Insufficient volume > SRCL 38.79 39.42 629319 622635 Insufficient volume > SRNA 16.00 16.35 675135 1066951 Breakout Sustained > DRTE 10.13 9.67 255486 133140 Failed on price Insufficient > volume > FLR 34.25 34.99 729579 847000 Breakout Sustained > SNDK 20.85 20.47 4619439 3520486 Failed on price Insufficient > volume > TNOX 11.60 11.16 207510 455745 Failed on price > > Please note that these are stocks breaking out from a CwH pattern, not > breakouts from any other kind of base. > > Aloha, > > Mike Gibbons > Proactive Technologies, LLC > http://www.proactech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ian > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:21 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > > Hi Mike: > > May I ask if all 8 of them were heavily shorted issues? The reason I ask is > that I'm still seeing most of the action in the stocks with the largest > short positions. I'm not sure what CANSLIM has to say about it, but my gut > tells me that it implies extra caution. Is it permitted to share todays > 'breakouts' with this list, or is that proprietary information? > > > Also, since the initial market breakdown in September 2000, the 40-week ema > of the OEX has provided a ceiling for every single bear-market rally. > (http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/main.asp?time=10&freq=2&co > mpidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp=&ma=6&maval=13%2C40%2C200&uf=8&lf=268435456&lf2=4&lf3=8 > &type=2&style=320&size=4&sid=0&o_symb=&startdate=&enddate=&show=true&symb=oe > x&draw.x=54&draw.y=14) > > As we stand now with the OEX at 456, that ceiling is a meagre 5 points away > right now. I would argue for close market scurtiny at that level. > > > Cheers, > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:16 AM > Subject: [CANSLIM] more breakouts > > > > All, > > > > For anyone who is using the cwhcharts.com site, today there are already 8 > > breakout alerts! Does this mean that M is finally taking off? I have > > noticed though that none of the recent ones are from the WON lists, and am > > wondering if that should be a reason for caution. > > > > Katherine, any comments? > > > > Thanks > > > > Mike > > > > Mike Niemotka , PE > > Sr. Principal Engineer > > Baxter Healthcare Corporation > > Route 120 & Wilson Road > > Round Lake, IL 60073 > > Tel (847) 270-4075 > > Fax (847) 270-4525 > > michael_niemotka@baxter.com > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD Date: 24 Mar 2003 18:07:40 -0700 Hello all - Is the 50-day average volume for the exchanges available online free anywhere? I'm looking for a number, but a barchart with the 50-day would do. A number is wanted since I'd like to go back a few weeks and know the 50 ADV on, e.g., March 10 of this year. Thanks! Rolf - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD Date: 24 Mar 2003 22:35:34 -0800 Hi Rolf: Go to Interactive Charting at bigcharts.com. Eg: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=nasdaq&time =8&freq=1 Just enter EMA or SMA, and 50 in the frequency box beside it. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:07 PM > Hello all - > > Is the 50-day average volume for the exchanges available online free > anywhere? I'm looking for a number, but a barchart with the 50-day would > do. A number is wanted since I'd like to go back a few weeks and know the > 50 ADV on, e.g., March 10 of this year. > > Thanks! > Rolf > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david rossing Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD Date: 24 Mar 2003 22:51:03 -0800 (PST) If you need a number, one easy way to do it is to just download historical data from yahoo and calculate it yourself with excel. Then you can get any date you want. Dave --- Ian wrote: > Hi Rolf: > > Go to Interactive Charting at bigcharts.com. Eg: > http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=nasdaq&time > =8&freq=1 > > Just enter EMA or SMA, and 50 in the frequency box beside it. > > Cheers, > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rolf Hertenstein > To: > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:07 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD > > > > Hello all - > > > > Is the 50-day average volume for the exchanges available online > free > > anywhere? I'm looking for a number, but a barchart with the 50-day > would > > do. A number is wanted since I'd like to go back a few weeks and > know the > > 50 ADV on, e.g., March 10 of this year. > > > > Thanks! > > Rolf > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Derks?= Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD Date: 25 Mar 2003 13:35:42 +0100 Which site is that on because I did not find it on finance.yahoo.com? Thanks. S=E9bastien -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david rossing Sent: dinsdag 25 maart 2003 7:51 If you need a number, one easy way to do it is to just download historical data from yahoo and calculate it yourself with excel. Then you can get any date you want. Dave --- Ian wrote: > Hi Rolf: >=20 > Go to Interactive Charting at bigcharts.com. Eg: > http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=3Dnasdaq= & time > =3D8&freq=3D1 >=20 > Just enter EMA or SMA, and 50 in the frequency box beside it. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Ian >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rolf Hertenstein > To: > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:07 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD >=20 >=20 > > Hello all - > > > > Is the 50-day average volume for the exchanges available online > free > > anywhere? I'm looking for a number, but a barchart with the 50-day > would > > do. A number is wanted since I'd like to go back a few weeks and > know the > > 50 ADV on, e.g., March 10 of this year. > > > > Thanks! > > Rolf > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. >=20 >=20 > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD Date: 25 Mar 2003 06:33:00 -0700 Thanks Ian and Dave. I think Bigcharts bars on a 2 or 3 month time frame will do the trick. The volume+ option seems to automatically put the 50 dma on the volume. I did consider calculating the 50 dma via yahoo's site. I noticed that the historical volume numbers don't quite jibe with the closing volume numbers I write down daily - don't know why. I was curious since there have been a couple of big down volume days this month (like yesterday, the up/down volume was < 0.1 on the NYSE and NASD) but these seem to occur on days with lower than or just average volume. Sebastien, go to finance.yahoo.com, then click on, e.g., DOW under Market Summary, then to Historical Prices. Rolf ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:35 AM Which site is that on because I did not find it on finance.yahoo.com? Thanks. Sébastien -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david rossing Sent: dinsdag 25 maart 2003 7:51 If you need a number, one easy way to do it is to just download historical data from yahoo and calculate it yourself with excel. Then you can get any date you want. Dave --- Ian wrote: > Hi Rolf: > > Go to Interactive Charting at bigcharts.com. Eg: > http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=nasdaq& time > =8&freq=1 > > Just enter EMA or SMA, and 50 in the frequency box beside it. > > Cheers, > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rolf Hertenstein > To: > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:07 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] 50 ADV for NYSE and NASD > > > > Hello all - > > > > Is the 50-day average volume for the exchanges available online > free > > anywhere? I'm looking for a number, but a barchart with the 50-day > would > > do. A number is wanted since I'd like to go back a few weeks and > know the > > 50 ADV on, e.g., March 10 of this year. > > > > Thanks! > > Rolf > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout Date: 25 Mar 2003 14:20:39 -0600 In the last few days, we have seen a number of stocks breaking out of good bases. Only time will tell if they hold, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were in regards to buying the stocks later, if they missed the breakout. We all know that WON says not to chase a stock anymore than 5% above the pivot point, but assuming that a stock that you missed is going to be a 30% or greater winner, are there other valid entry points? I am not talking about getting in if the stock pulls back to the pivot soon after the breakout on light volume, which I know is a possible second chance, I am more interested in if people have entry points after a stock has gained over 5%, and does not drop any lower than that. Is it an all or nothing game on the breakouts, ie if you don't grab one within 5% of the pivot, then you eliminate it from your watchlist. or do you wait for temporary consolidation after it has gained 10% or more, in hopes that it continues to power up? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout Date: 25 Mar 2003 14:39:21 -0600 Don't ever forget - there will always be another opportunity - whether it's the one that got away or on the horizon. The goal is to become a "strong hand" right from the start. Emotion, rather than money management, begin to rule your brain should you buy a stock above its pivot. If you happened to miss a stock - there may be consolidation points on which to pick up a small position, but then you are moving farther away from WON principles. CANSLIM should be adapted to meet your personality. We combine several disciplines into one comfy couch for our mindset. Predominantly based on WON principles, we bring in other disciplines to round out our program. A great website to learn how traders initiate or add to positions is Tradingmarkets.com - probably one of the best sites on the web. There are many, many different ways to initiate or add to a position that present low risk opportunities and the individuals on this site are some of the best in the business and do a great job of explaining their disciplines. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of michael_niemotka@baxter.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:21 PM In the last few days, we have seen a number of stocks breaking out of good bases. Only time will tell if they hold, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were in regards to buying the stocks later, if they missed the breakout. We all know that WON says not to chase a stock anymore than 5% above the pivot point, but assuming that a stock that you missed is going to be a 30% or greater winner, are there other valid entry points? I am not talking about getting in if the stock pulls back to the pivot soon after the breakout on light volume, which I know is a possible second chance, I am more interested in if people have entry points after a stock has gained over 5%, and does not drop any lower than that. Is it an all or nothing game on the breakouts, ie if you don't grab one within 5% of the pivot, then you eliminate it from your watchlist. or do you wait for temporary consolidation after it has gained 10% or more, in hopes that it continues to power up? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout Date: 25 Mar 2003 16:27:33 -0500 Hi Michael, The key is that you must be able to look at the stock as if you never heard of it before. If you can't get that "missed pivot / breakout" out of your head, then you are better off never looking at it again, as it will corrupt your thinking. If you can overcome this, then certainly it may present future valid pivot points and entry prices, even tho higher than that lost opportunity. The best stocks will go on for gains of 100% or more, so missing out on the first 30% or wherever it again forms a valid CANSLIM basing pattern only means that you missed a small part of the ride. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:20 PM In the last few days, we have seen a number of stocks breaking out of good bases. Only time will tell if they hold, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were in regards to buying the stocks later, if they missed the breakout. We all know that WON says not to chase a stock anymore than 5% above the pivot point, but assuming that a stock that you missed is going to be a 30% or greater winner, are there other valid entry points? I am not talking about getting in if the stock pulls back to the pivot soon after the breakout on light volume, which I know is a possible second chance, I am more interested in if people have entry points after a stock has gained over 5%, and does not drop any lower than that. Is it an all or nothing game on the breakouts, ie if you don't grab one within 5% of the pivot, then you eliminate it from your watchlist. or do you wait for temporary consolidation after it has gained 10% or more, in hopes that it continues to power up? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout Date: 25 Mar 2003 16:23:27 -0600 Tom and Ed, I appreciate the advice and comments. I guess when you see some of the write ups in IBD or other places, the huge run ups of a Yahoo, or Cisco, etc, the multiple bases that form along the way sometimes get lost. Does anyone know of studies that WON, or someone else did, relative to the "average" amount a stock will move up before re-basing? I know WON talks of talking some profits when a stock gains 20% from breakout, but if you sell out here, assuming no sell signals, do you risk missing out on 100% gains, etc? It sure does seem that some of the biggest winners of the past just blasted off from pivot point, and did not look back until a double, triple or more bagger. And Ed, I know what you mean about there always being another train coming down the tracks. On ANY day, you can go to Yahoo and list the top gainers, and there are stocks picking up 20% or more in a day. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Tom Worley" cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/25/2003 03:27 PM Please respond to canslim Hi Michael, The key is that you must be able to look at the stock as if you never heard of it before. If you can't get that "missed pivot / breakout" out of your head, then you are better off never looking at it again, as it will corrupt your thinking. If you can overcome this, then certainly it may present future valid pivot points and entry prices, even tho higher than that lost opportunity. The best stocks will go on for gains of 100% or more, so missing out on the first 30% or wherever it again forms a valid CANSLIM basing pattern only means that you missed a small part of the ride. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:20 PM In the last few days, we have seen a number of stocks breaking out of good bases. Only time will tell if they hold, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were in regards to buying the stocks later, if they missed the breakout. We all know that WON says not to chase a stock anymore than 5% above the pivot point, but assuming that a stock that you missed is going to be a 30% or greater winner, are there other valid entry points? I am not talking about getting in if the stock pulls back to the pivot soon after the breakout on light volume, which I know is a possible second chance, I am more interested in if people have entry points after a stock has gained over 5%, and does not drop any lower than that. Is it an all or nothing game on the breakouts, ie if you don't grab one within 5% of the pivot, then you eliminate it from your watchlist. or do you wait for temporary consolidation after it has gained 10% or more, in hopes that it continues to power up? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout Date: 25 Mar 2003 17:44:37 -0500 from my training and reading, the "sell on 20% gain" rule is only intended to teach newcomers to CANSLIM how to have the discipline to take profits (and not get greedy) as well as to build up a positive result to offset the ones that are guaranteed to bite you. once you have learned how to take profits, and become better at the rest of the actual "sell" rules, then the goal is to be able to start identifying the ones that are destined, over time, to rise multi-hundred percent, and learn how to hold them, and when to fold them ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:23 PM Tom and Ed, I appreciate the advice and comments. I guess when you see some of the write ups in IBD or other places, the huge run ups of a Yahoo, or Cisco, etc, the multiple bases that form along the way sometimes get lost. Does anyone know of studies that WON, or someone else did, relative to the "average" amount a stock will move up before re-basing? I know WON talks of talking some profits when a stock gains 20% from breakout, but if you sell out here, assuming no sell signals, do you risk missing out on 100% gains, etc? It sure does seem that some of the biggest winners of the past just blasted off from pivot point, and did not look back until a double, triple or more bagger. And Ed, I know what you mean about there always being another train coming down the tracks. On ANY day, you can go to Yahoo and list the top gainers, and there are stocks picking up 20% or more in a day. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Tom Worley" cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/25/2003 03:27 PM Please respond to canslim Hi Michael, The key is that you must be able to look at the stock as if you never heard of it before. If you can't get that "missed pivot / breakout" out of your head, then you are better off never looking at it again, as it will corrupt your thinking. If you can overcome this, then certainly it may present future valid pivot points and entry prices, even tho higher than that lost opportunity. The best stocks will go on for gains of 100% or more, so missing out on the first 30% or wherever it again forms a valid CANSLIM basing pattern only means that you missed a small part of the ride. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:20 PM In the last few days, we have seen a number of stocks breaking out of good bases. Only time will tell if they hold, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were in regards to buying the stocks later, if they missed the breakout. We all know that WON says not to chase a stock anymore than 5% above the pivot point, but assuming that a stock that you missed is going to be a 30% or greater winner, are there other valid entry points? I am not talking about getting in if the stock pulls back to the pivot soon after the breakout on light volume, which I know is a possible second chance, I am more interested in if people have entry points after a stock has gained over 5%, and does not drop any lower than that. Is it an all or nothing game on the breakouts, ie if you don't grab one within 5% of the pivot, then you eliminate it from your watchlist. or do you wait for temporary consolidation after it has gained 10% or more, in hopes that it continues to power up? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout Date: 25 Mar 2003 22:37:56 EST Mike, In the 3/24/03 Ask WON in investors.com a related question was asked, viz. Should I buy stocks BO even though the Mkt is not yet ready? WON's answer is this: "You might miss a few stocks that jump out of the gate early. But to chase these stocks in the absence of a confirmed rally raises the risk of the market turning against you. Indeed, scores of failed rallies have burned impatient investors over the past three years. As stocks truly embark on a new bull market or at least a significant trading rally, you will have plenty of chances in the first weeks and months to buy leaders without incurring unnecessary risk. If you want to learn more about follow-through, check an article in the Investor's Corner Archives." The Investor's Corner Archive is 11/17/2000, and its URL is: http://www.investors.com/learn/ICmarket06.asp jans In a message dated 3/25/2003 3:21:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, michael_niemotka@baxter.com writes: << In the last few days, we have seen a number of stocks breaking out of good bases. Only time will tell if they hold, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were in regards to buying the stocks later, if they missed the breakout.... >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout Date: 26 Mar 2003 08:34:48 -0600 "......learn when to walk away, know when to run......." Sorry, I could not help myself! :) Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Tom Worley" cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/25/2003 04:44 PM Please respond to canslim from my training and reading, the "sell on 20% gain" rule is only intended to teach newcomers to CANSLIM how to have the discipline to take profits (and not get greedy) as well as to build up a positive result to offset the ones that are guaranteed to bite you. once you have learned how to take profits, and become better at the rest of the actual "sell" rules, then the goal is to be able to start identifying the ones that are destined, over time, to rise multi-hundred percent, and learn how to hold them, and when to fold them ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:23 PM Tom and Ed, I appreciate the advice and comments. I guess when you see some of the write ups in IBD or other places, the huge run ups of a Yahoo, or Cisco, etc, the multiple bases that form along the way sometimes get lost. Does anyone know of studies that WON, or someone else did, relative to the "average" amount a stock will move up before re-basing? I know WON talks of talking some profits when a stock gains 20% from breakout, but if you sell out here, assuming no sell signals, do you risk missing out on 100% gains, etc? It sure does seem that some of the biggest winners of the past just blasted off from pivot point, and did not look back until a double, triple or more bagger. And Ed, I know what you mean about there always being another train coming down the tracks. On ANY day, you can go to Yahoo and list the top gainers, and there are stocks picking up 20% or more in a day. Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com "Tom Worley" cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] buying after a missed breakout owner-canslim@lists.xm ission.com 03/25/2003 03:27 PM Please respond to canslim Hi Michael, The key is that you must be able to look at the stock as if you never heard of it before. If you can't get that "missed pivot / breakout" out of your head, then you are better off never looking at it again, as it will corrupt your thinking. If you can overcome this, then certainly it may present future valid pivot points and entry prices, even tho higher than that lost opportunity. The best stocks will go on for gains of 100% or more, so missing out on the first 30% or wherever it again forms a valid CANSLIM basing pattern only means that you missed a small part of the ride. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:20 PM In the last few days, we have seen a number of stocks breaking out of good bases. Only time will tell if they hold, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were in regards to buying the stocks later, if they missed the breakout. We all know that WON says not to chase a stock anymore than 5% above the pivot point, but assuming that a stock that you missed is going to be a 30% or greater winner, are there other valid entry points? I am not talking about getting in if the stock pulls back to the pivot soon after the breakout on light volume, which I know is a possible second chance, I am more interested in if people have entry points after a stock has gained over 5%, and does not drop any lower than that. Is it an all or nothing game on the breakouts, ie if you don't grab one within 5% of the pivot, then you eliminate it from your watchlist. or do you wait for temporary consolidation after it has gained 10% or more, in hopes that it continues to power up? Thanks Mike Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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------=_NextPart_000_010F_01C2F3D0.ECE4A5F0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" with references to WON books Date: 26 Mar 2003 21:49:07 -0700 Thanks for the link. I'm bothered by his second graphic (New definition of Follow Through). He's starting to count on a day that closed lower (looks like 09/21/2001). That can't be right, can it? Rolf > Hi All, > > Here's a summary explanation of WON's guidelines for both the "old" and the > "new" definition of a FTD: > > http://www.market-tester.com/newft.htm > > My read on WON's guidelines is that 1%+ would be fine if it were accompanied > by a slew of breakouts. 2% is useful, but even it doesn't hold water without > a slew of stocks at least *setting up* for breakout. > > In either case, it only makes sense that the "market" is a summary indicator > of its individual components. If the majority of individual CANSLIM-quality > stocks are acting well, then our "market" is healthy. If the individual > CANSLIM-quality stocks are not acting well, it's a mine field. As Ed said, > grounds for stepping lightly. > > Katherine > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tim Katona > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:40 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" with references to WON books > > > Rolf, > That was the page I was looking for! > > From page 78 of WON's 24 lessons book, In bold letters: > "You only start counting a rally if the close is up from the prior day." > In this case, Wednesday March 12 did close higher than Tuesday. > > Also on page 78: > ""Follow-through" day. Index up 1% or more on increased volume from the day > before. Market is in new uptrend. Usually occurs fourth through seventh day > of an attempted rally." > > (Since 24 lessons was published WON did change the "Index up 1% or more on > increased volume from the day before" to 2% or more.) > > Also see HTMMIS third edition pages 64 and 65 on rally attempt, 2% reasoning > and follow-through day. Interesting, WON says that a follow-through could > even occur on the third day of a rally attempt if certain conditions exist. > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rolf Hertenstein > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:16 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > I've been following the example from 24 Lessons, pg. 78. The first day of > an attempted rally is a day in which an index closes up sans volume > considerations. A FTD day usually occurs on day 4 to 7 (higher volume, 2% > increase). From Tim's comments, IBD is following that criteria. > > I guess an 'attempted' rally becomes a 'confirmed' rally if a FTD occurs on > days 4 thru 7 (and as late as 10). I try to qualify 'attempts' based on the > action of the first day; we've had at least a couple of weak attempts (that > failed) lately. > > Rolf > > > > I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance > > with WON? > > > > Rolf > > > > > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price > gain > > > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > > > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove > to > > > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use > > it > > > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand > > on > > > its own merits. > > > > > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, > while > > > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > > > > > Rolf > > > > > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mike" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I > wouldn't > > > be > > > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > > > short > > > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > > > back > > > > in. > > > > > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > > > well > > > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > > has > > > > been typically well under average. > > > > > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > > day > > > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after > war > > > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > > least > > > > some minor relief rally. > > > > > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > > > technicals? > > > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > > << > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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PS Maybe an example excel sheet would be nice. Thanks :). - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Historical data in excell Date: 27 Mar 2003 09:14:20 -0600 Hi Sebastien, In order to used the canned stock price chart in Excel, you'll need to move the location of the "volume" column as exported from Yahoo. Here's a quick example so that you can see how the data needs to look: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/ChartYahooData.xls Be very careful when using the exported Yahoo historical data, however, because when you do an export to Excel, they include the *adjusted* closing price rather than the actual closing price. That's not a problem when they pay stock dividends (splits) but a big problem when they pay cash dividends. In other words, your chart will not reflect the trading closes if the stock pays a cash dividend. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sébastien Derks Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:21 AM Can anyone explain how to make a chart with historical date from finance.yahoo.com in Excel. I tried it with the stock and it tells me to put it into a certain order but it just does not work. Thanks. PS Maybe an example excel sheet would be nice. Thanks :). - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Date: 27 Mar 2003 10:35:13 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C2F44C.8CFC6C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen = angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that = has to do with CANSLIM Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would = create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a = stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a = relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig = deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher = premium. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM Appreciate comments on this article. Gene Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.=20 The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the=20 company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied=20 by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales=20 over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive=20 the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides=20 a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to=20 be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20 unreliability.=20 Read this article at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C2F44C.8CFC6C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you = are=20 looking for fallen angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I = don't see=20 what that has to do with CANSLIM
 
Because expectations drive price, and thus high=20 expectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically = suspicious=20 whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM = fundamentals, but=20 a relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig = deeper to=20 figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher = premium.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 (Sometimes)

Appreciate comments on this=20 article.
 
Gene
 

Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 (Sometimes)
----------------------------------------------------------= --
Investors=20 are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.
The = price-to-sales=20 ratio provides a simple approach: take the
company's market = capitalization=20 (the number of shares multiplied
by the share price) and divide it = by the=20 company's total sales
over the past twelve months. The lower the = ratio, the=20 more attractive
the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales = provides
a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need = to
be=20 mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible =
unreliability.=20

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------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C2F44C.8CFC6C00-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Lobatto" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Date: 27 Mar 2003 10:55:06 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C2F44F.53C665A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not only that, but basically each industry has a P/S ratio that's = totally dependent on the typical profit margin of that industry. For = instance, a supermarket may have a P/S ratio far below 1.0 because they = operate on a miniscule margin. Ken Fisher published a newsletter about = 15-20 years ago that used a P/S ratio to pick stocks. It was not very = successful and he sold the letter to a woman who finally gave up the = whole approach. Not to say it's useless, but at the very least it's a = far cry from CANSLIM. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You = (Sometimes) Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen = angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that = has to do with CANSLIM Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would = create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a = stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a = relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig = deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher = premium. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Appreciate comments on this article. Gene Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) ------------------------------------------------------------ Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.=20 The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the=20 company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied=20 by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales=20 over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive=20 the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides=20 a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to=20 be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20 unreliability.=20 Read this article at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C2F44F.53C665A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not only that, but basically = each industry=20 has a P/S ratio that's totally dependent on the typical profit = margin of=20 that industry. For instance, a supermarket may have a P/S ratio far = below 1.0=20 because they operate on a miniscule margin. Ken Fisher published a = newsletter=20 about 15-20 years ago that used a P/S ratio to pick stocks. It was not = very=20 successful and he sold the letter to a woman who finally gave up the = whole=20 approach. Not to say it's useless, but at the very least it's a far cry = from=20 CANSLIM.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 = 10:35=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Fundamental=20 Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if = you are=20 looking for fallen angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I = don't=20 see what that has to do with CANSLIM
 
Because expectations drive price, and thus = high=20 expectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically = suspicious=20 whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM = fundamentals,=20 but a relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to = dig=20 deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher=20 premium.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 (Sometimes)

Appreciate comments on this = article.
 
Gene
 

Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 = (Sometimes)
----------------------------------------------------------= --
Investors=20 are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.
The = price-to-sales=20 ratio provides a simple approach: take the
company's market = capitalization=20 (the number of shares multiplied
by the share price) and divide it = by the=20 company's total sales
over the past twelve months. The lower the = ratio,=20 the more attractive
the investment. As easy as it sounds, = price-to-sales=20 provides
a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need = to=20
be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20
unreliability.

Read this article at:
h= ttp://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C2F44F.53C665A0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Date: 27 Mar 2003 11:43:08 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03D4_01C2F456.09876C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Tom! I might be all wet but I feel that companies will have a hard time = fudging this ratio. They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but = there are few ways to fudge sales. There are some (particularly = software companies) that have in the past. Some used to book the entire = amount of a contract sales when it was signed, rather than book when it = was billed. But this practice has been under fire and is likely to go = away if it hasn't already.=20 Do you not look at fallen angels? If you do, what would your criteria = be? Thanks, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You = (Sometimes) Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen = angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that = has to do with CANSLIM Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would = create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a = stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a = relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig = deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher = premium. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Appreciate comments on this article. Gene Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) ------------------------------------------------------------ Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.=20 The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the=20 company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied=20 by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales=20 over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive=20 the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides=20 a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to=20 be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20 unreliability.=20 Read this article at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp ------=_NextPart_000_03D4_01C2F456.09876C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Tom!
 
I might be all wet = but I feel=20 that companies will have a hard time fudging this = ratio. =20 They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but there are few ways = to fudge=20 sales.  There are some (particularly software companies) that = have in=20 the past.  Some used to book the entire amount of a contract sales = when it=20 was signed, rather than book when it was billed.  But this practice = has=20 been under fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't already.=20
 
Do you not look at fallen angels? If = you do,=20 what would your criteria be?
 
Thanks,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 = 9:35=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Fundamental=20 Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if = you are=20 looking for fallen angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I = don't=20 see what that has to do with CANSLIM
 
Because expectations drive price, and thus = high=20 expectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically = suspicious=20 whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM = fundamentals,=20 but a relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to = dig=20 deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher=20 premium.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 (Sometimes)

Appreciate comments on this = article.
 
Gene
 

Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 = (Sometimes)
----------------------------------------------------------= --
Investors=20 are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.
The = price-to-sales=20 ratio provides a simple approach: take the
company's market = capitalization=20 (the number of shares multiplied
by the share price) and divide it = by the=20 company's total sales
over the past twelve months. The lower the = ratio,=20 the more attractive
the investment. As easy as it sounds, = price-to-sales=20 provides
a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need = to=20
be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20
unreliability.

Read this article at:
h= ttp://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp
 
------=_NextPart_000_03D4_01C2F456.09876C30-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Date: 27 Mar 2003 13:04:21 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C2F461.61FD9910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gene, I agree, the p/s ratio is hard to fudge, but even it can be adulterated = by crafty business managers (e.g. booking a sale that won't be delivered = until the next quarter, or even fiscal year, same stunt many have pulled = on earnings). My best guide still remains the "trend" of earnings, = sales, and the ratio between them, on a sequential quarterly basis. = While that doesn't guarantee any fudging, it at least means they are = more likely consistent in their fudging :)) I have seen (unfortunately even owned) companies that included sales for = merchandise that was still sitting on their loading dock, waiting to be = put on the truck and delivered, as of the end of the quarter. I went thru a period in one of my prior lives, before I was introduced = to CANSLIM, where I totally focused on fallen angels. I will still = occasionally consider a particularly attractive candidate, but usually = just for purposes of putting it on a watch list for further research, = observation of how it trades, etc. If I am going to tie up capital in a = stock moving sideways, I prefer it already be at a 12 month high, so at = least I don't have to overcome the overhead resistance. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:43 PM (Sometimes) Thanks Tom! I might be all wet but I feel that companies will have a hard time = fudging this ratio. They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but = there are few ways to fudge sales. There are some (particularly = software companies) that have in the past. Some used to book the entire = amount of a contract sales when it was signed, rather than book when it = was billed. But this practice has been under fire and is likely to go = away if it hasn't already.=20 Do you not look at fallen angels? If you do, what would your criteria = be? Thanks, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You = (Sometimes) Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen = angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that = has to do with CANSLIM Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would = create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a = stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a = relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig = deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher = premium. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Appreciate comments on this article. Gene Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) ------------------------------------------------------------ Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.=20 The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the=20 company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied=20 by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales=20 over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive=20 the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides=20 a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to=20 be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20 unreliability.=20 Read this article at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C2F461.61FD9910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Gene,
 
I agree, the p/s ratio is hard to fudge, but = even it can=20 be adulterated by crafty business managers (e.g. booking a sale that = won't be=20 delivered until the next quarter, or even fiscal year, same stunt many = have=20 pulled on earnings). My best guide still remains the "trend" of = earnings, sales,=20 and the ratio between them, on a sequential quarterly basis. While that = doesn't=20 guarantee any fudging, it at least means they are more likely consistent = in=20 their fudging :))
 
I have seen (unfortunately even owned) companies = that=20 included sales for merchandise that was still sitting on their loading = dock,=20 waiting to be put on the truck and delivered, as of the end of the=20 quarter.
 
I went thru a period in one of my prior lives, = before I=20 was introduced to CANSLIM, where I totally focused on fallen angels. I = will=20 still occasionally consider a particularly attractive candidate, but = usually=20 just for purposes of putting it on a watch list for further research,=20 observation of how it trades, etc. If I am going to tie up capital in a = stock=20 moving sideways, I prefer it already be at a 12 month high, so at least = I don't=20 have to overcome the overhead resistance.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love = You=20 (Sometimes)

Thanks Tom!
 
I might be all wet = but I feel=20 that companies will have a hard time fudging this = ratio. =20 They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but there are few ways = to fudge=20 sales.  There are some (particularly software companies) that = have in=20 the past.  Some used to book the entire amount of a contract sales = when it=20 was signed, rather than book when it was billed.  But this practice = has=20 been under fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't already.=20
 
Do you not look at fallen angels? If = you do,=20 what would your criteria be?
 
Thanks,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 = 9:35=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Fundamental=20 Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if = you are=20 looking for fallen angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I = don't=20 see what that has to do with CANSLIM
 
Because expectations drive price, and thus = high=20 expectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically = suspicious=20 whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM = fundamentals,=20 but a relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to = dig=20 deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher=20 premium.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 (Sometimes)

Appreciate comments on this = article.
 
Gene
 

Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 = (Sometimes)
----------------------------------------------------------= --
Investors=20 are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.
The = price-to-sales=20 ratio provides a simple approach: take the
company's market = capitalization=20 (the number of shares multiplied
by the share price) and divide it = by the=20 company's total sales
over the past twelve months. The lower the = ratio,=20 the more attractive
the investment. As easy as it sounds, = price-to-sales=20 provides
a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need = to=20
be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20
unreliability.

Read this article at:
h= ttp://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp
 
------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C2F461.61FD9910-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Date: 27 Mar 2003 10:54:03 -0800 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2F44F.2DEE9780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand up mri-it booked sales when the= product was made , to my understanding , from the sec filings, not when = it was sold. nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:45 AM Thanks Tom! I might be all wet but I feel that companies will have a hard time fudgin= g this ratio. They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but there are f= ew ways to fudge sales. There are some (particularly software companies)= that have in the past. Some used to book the entire amount of a contrac= t sales when it was signed, rather than book when it was billed. But thi= s practice has been under fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't alre= ady. =20 Do you not look at fallen angels? If you do, what would your criteria be? Thanks, Gene ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen an= gels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that has = to do with CANSLIM Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would create= a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a stock = hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a relatively low = p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig deeper to figure out= why the price does not already reflect a higher premium. ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM Appreciate comments on this article. Gene Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks. =20 The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the =20 company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied =20 by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales =20 over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive =20 the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides =20 a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to =20 be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible =20 unreliability. =20 Read this article at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2F44F.2DEE9780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand= up mri-it booked sales when the product was made , to my understanding ,= from the sec filings, not when it was sold. nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003= 9:45 AM
To: canslim@lists.x= mission.com
Subject: Re: [CA= NSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)
&nbs= p;
Thanks Tom!
 
I might be all wet but I feel that compan= ies will have a hard time fudging this ratio.  They&n= bsp;can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but there are few ways to fudge= sales.  There are some (particularly software companies) that have&= nbsp;in the past.  Some used to book the entire amount of a contract= sales when it was signed, rather than book when it was billed.  But= this practice has been under fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't = already.
 
Do you not look at fallen angels? If you do, what would your cri= teria be?
 
Thanks,
Gene
----- Ori= ginal Message -----
From: Tom Worley
=
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:= 35 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]= Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

=
Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you = are looking for fallen angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I= don't see what that has to do with CANSLIM
 
Because expectations dr= ive price, and thus high expectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am= automatically suspicious whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with= great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a relatively low p/s ratio (generally un= der 2.0). It forces me to dig deeper to figure out why the price does not= already reflect a higher premium.
<= /FONT> 
----- Original Message= ----- <= DIV>Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject:= [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

Appreciat= e comments on this article.
Gene
 

Fund= amental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)
-----------------------= s to compare the value of stocks.
The price-to-sales ratio provides a= simple approach: take the
company's market capitalization (the numbe= r of shares multiplied
by the share price) and divide it by the compa= ny's total sales
over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, th= e more attractive
the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sale= s provides
a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need = to
be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible
unre= liability.

Read this article at:
http://www.investopedia.com= /articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp
 
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2F44F.2DEE9780-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robin Gridley" Subject: [CANSLIM] P/S ratios Date: 27 Mar 2003 11:53:19 -0800 There's another way that Sales can really be jerked around... It's common practice in distribution for retailers to hold A/P hostage against returns. The impact is as follows... The distributor/ manufacturer books the sale to the retailer or channel partner and ships the product. The sale is reported as such on any financials, along with an accompanying A/R. The retailer/channel partner has payment and return terms... which are almost always ignored. The usual end result (especially in a slow market) is that the A/R goes past-due, the retailer/CP tells the manufacturer/distributor that they are going to pay in product (product which has long passed it's return privileges...), and they haggle it out - usually with the manufacturer/wholesaler losing and being forced to take product return in lieu of overdue A/R. You'd be amazed at how long this process can be milked to the point of almost never having to pay for products! The net result is that the sales booked in January can easily end up coming back in August with an accompanying write-off to the A/R asset. And it's very difficult to track this through the financials in a way that would allow you to predict the real net-sales number. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Richards" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] P/S ratios Date: 27 Mar 2003 15:56:38 -0600 Robin, That is a state secret that you just let out! Be careful, the CPA's don't want us to learn about this. Fred Richards -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robin Gridley Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:53 PM There's another way that Sales can really be jerked around... It's common practice in distribution for retailers to hold A/P hostage against returns. The impact is as follows... The distributor/ manufacturer books the sale to the retailer or channel partner and ships the product. The sale is reported as such on any financials, along with an accompanying A/R. The retailer/channel partner has payment and return terms... which are almost always ignored. The usual end result (especially in a slow market) is that the A/R goes past-due, the retailer/CP tells the manufacturer/distributor that they are going to pay in product (product which has long passed it's return privileges...), and they haggle it out - usually with the manufacturer/wholesaler losing and being forced to take product return in lieu of overdue A/R. You'd be amazed at how long this process can be milked to the point of almost never having to pay for products! The net result is that the sales booked in January can easily end up coming back in August with an accompanying write-off to the A/R asset. And it's very difficult to track this through the financials in a way that would allow you to predict the real net-sales number. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: [CANSLIM] YHOO Date: 27 Mar 2003 16:06:02 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_035B_01C2F47A.C37BC090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nancy, did you buy YHOO before the move? Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NANCY POLCARO=20 To: canslim=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You = (Sometimes) I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand up mri-it booked sales when = the product was made , to my understanding , from the sec filings, not = when it was sold. nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:45 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You = (Sometimes) Thanks Tom! I might be all wet but I feel that companies will have a hard time = fudging this ratio. They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but = there are few ways to fudge sales. There are some (particularly = software companies) that have in the past. Some used to book the entire = amount of a contract sales when it was signed, rather than book when it = was billed. But this practice has been under fire and is likely to go = away if it hasn't already.=20 Do you not look at fallen angels? If you do, what would your = criteria be? Thanks, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You = (Sometimes) Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for = fallen angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what = that has to do with CANSLIM Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would = create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a = stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a = relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig = deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher = premium. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You = (Sometimes) Appreciate comments on this article. Gene Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) ------------------------------------------------------------ Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.=20 The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the=20 company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied=20 by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales=20 over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more = attractive=20 the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides=20 a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to=20 be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible=20 unreliability.=20 Read this article at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp ------=_NextPart_000_035B_01C2F47A.C37BC090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nancy, did you  = buy YHOO before=20 the move?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NANCY = POLCARO=20
To: canslim
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 = 12:54=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Fundamental=20 Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand up mri-it booked sales = when the=20 product was made , to my understanding , from the sec filings, not = when it was=20 sold. nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 27, = 2003 9:45=20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Fundamental=20 Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)
 
Thanks Tom!
 
I might be all = wet but I=20 feel that companies will have a hard = time fudging this=20 ratio.  They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but = there are=20 few ways to fudge sales.  There are some (particularly software = companies) that have in the past.  Some used to book the = entire=20 amount of a contract sales when it was signed, rather than book when = it was=20 billed.  But this practice has been under fire and is likely to = go away=20 if it hasn't already.=20
 
Do you not look at fallen angels? = If you do,=20 what would your criteria be?
 
Thanks,
Gene
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Thursday, March 27, = 2003 9:35=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Fundamental=20 Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine = if you are=20 looking for fallen angels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. = But I=20 don't see what that has to do with CANSLIM
 
Because expectations drive price, and thus = high=20 expectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically = suspicious=20 whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM=20 fundamentals, but a relatively low p/s ratio (generally under = 2.0). It=20 forces me to dig deeper to figure out why the price does not = already=20 reflect a higher premium.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Gene = Ricci
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love = You=20 (Sometimes)

Appreciate comments on = this=20 article.
 
Gene
 

Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You=20 = (Sometimes)
----------------------------------------------------------= --
Investors=20 are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks.
The=20 price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the =
company's=20 market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied
by the = share=20 price) and divide it by the company's total sales
over the = past twelve=20 months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive
the = investment. As=20 easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides
a useful measure = for sizing=20 up stocks. But investors need to
be mindful of the ratio's = potential=20 pitfalls and possible
unreliability.

Read this article = at:
h= ttp://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp
 
------=_NextPart_000_035B_01C2F47A.C37BC090-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot Date: 27 Mar 2003 17:21:35 -0500 for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this stock, and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my VR Fund. Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volume in the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets. Now only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that do not like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it to move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and there is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth watching, and learning from. Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someone something to talk about. Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] YHOO Date: 27 Jul 2003 15:29:11 -0700 ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C35453.D4093DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no I didnt get into it-to exspensive for me and I was afraid it would fal= l with the market.nancy(you know-when the market was going to fall??) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:08 PM Nancy, did you buy YHOO before the move? Gene ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:54 PM I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand up mri-it booked sales when the= product was made , to my understanding , from the sec filings, not when = it was sold. nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:45 AM Thanks Tom! I might be all wet but I feel that companies will have a hard time fudgin= g this ratio. They can fudge EPS lots of different ways, but there are f= ew ways to fudge sales. There are some (particularly software companies)= that have in the past. Some used to book the entire amount of a contrac= t sales when it was signed, rather than book when it was billed. But thi= s practice has been under fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't alre= ady. =20 Do you not look at fallen angels? If you do, what would your criteria be? Thanks, Gene ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM Gene, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen an= gels, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that has = to do with CANSLIM Because expectations drive price, and thus high expectations would create= a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious whenever I find a stock = hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamentals, but a relatively low = p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to dig deeper to figure out= why the price does not already reflect a higher premium. ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:50 PM Appreciate comments on this article. Gene Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes) Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of stocks. =20 The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the =20 company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied =20 by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales =20 over the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive =20 the investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides =20 a useful measure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to =20 be mindful of the ratio's potential pitfalls and possible =20 unreliability. =20 Read this article at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/032603.asp ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C35453.D4093DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
no I didnt get into it-to exspensive for = me and I was afraid it would fall with the market.nancy(you know-when the= market was going to fall??)
 
----= - Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:08 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] YHOO
&nb= sp;
= Nancy, did you  buy YHOO = before the move?
=  
Gene
----- Original Message -----
F= rom: N= ANCY POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Thursda= y, March 27, 2003 12:54 PM
Subje= ct: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)<= /DIV>

I looked into a micro cap once Fonr-stand up m= ri-it booked sales when the product was made , to my understanding , from= the sec filings, not when it was sold. nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
<= DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:45= AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis:= P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)
 
Thanks Tom!
I = might be all wet but I feel that companies will have a hard tim= e fudging this ratio.  They can fudge EPS lots of dif= ferent ways, but there are few ways to fudge sales.  There are some = (particularly software companies) that have in the past.  Some = used to book the entire amount of a contract sales when it was signed, ra= ther than book when it was billed.  But this practice has been under= fire and is likely to go away if it hasn't already.
 <= /DIV>
Do you not look at f= allen angels? If you do, what would your criteria be?
<= FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"> 
Thanks,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
= th.net">Tom Worley
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Fundamental Analysis: P/S -= I Love You (Sometimes)

Gen= e, a p/s ratio of 1.0 or less is fine if you are looking for fallen angel= s, bottom fishing, value shopping, etc. But I don't see what that has to = do with CANSLIM
 
=
Because expectations drive price, and thus high e= xpectations would create a high p/s ratio, I am automatically suspicious = whenever I find a stock hitting new highs, with great CANSLIM fundamental= s, but a relatively low p/s ratio (generally under 2.0). It forces me to = dig deeper to figure out why the price does not already reflect a higher = premium.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
Sent: Wednesday= , March 26, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Fundamental= Analysis: P/S - I Love You (Sometimes)

= Appreciate comments on this article= .
 
Gene
 

Fundamental Analysis: P/S - I = Love You (Sometimes)
-------------------------------------------------= -----------
Investors are always seeking ways to compare the value of = stocks.
The price-to-sales ratio provides a simple approach: take the=
company's market capitalization (the number of shares multiplied by the share price) and divide it by the company's total sales
over = the past twelve months. The lower the ratio, the more attractive
the = investment. As easy as it sounds, price-to-sales provides
a useful me= asure for sizing up stocks. But investors need to
be mindful of the r= atio's potential pitfalls and possible
unreliability.

Read th= is article at:
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fundamental/03/0= 32603.asp
 
------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C35453.D4093DA0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 27 Mar 2003 18:40:21 -0600 Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is not a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that said, we are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a couple generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The leaders get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the market be your guide. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this stock, and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my VR Fund. Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volume in the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets. Now only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that do not like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it to move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and there is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth watching, and learning from. Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someone something to talk about. Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe McCall" Subject: [CANSLIM] Renew IBD? Date: 27 Mar 2003 12:07:40 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2F459.76E1C750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am debating whether I should renew my subscription to the IBD paper. = I know a few of you who follow CANSLIM don't subscribe either. What are = your thoughts? Thanks, Joe McCall ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2F459.76E1C750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am debating whether I should renew = my=20 subscription to the IBD paper.  I know a few of you who follow = CANSLIM=20 don't subscribe either.  What = are your=20 thoughts?
 
Thanks,
 
Joe McCall
 
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Chris. --part1_6d.d7e9660.2bb52085_boundary-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 28 Mar 2003 09:42:39 -0800 I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a few other medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when the market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% or more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long positions in right now when the charts set up. Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM > Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts > about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything > more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is not > a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that said, we > are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a couple > generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a > market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many > casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The leaders > get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the > market be your guide. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot > > for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this > stock, > and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my > VR > Fund. > > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volume > in > the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets. > Now > only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. > > THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that do > not > like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am > already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it > to > move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to > negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and > there > is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth > watching, and learning from. > > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someone > something to talk about. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Renew IBD? Date: 28 Mar 2003 11:20:12 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C2F51C.0059A6C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01C2F51C.0059A6C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01C2F51C.0059A6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IBD, DGO, cwcharts, etc - this information is generally available for free at other sites - the question is how much time you are willing to spend hunting around to gather this info when it could be right in front of you. My view is that IBD is not just a stock pickers paper - my favorite section is "Leaders and Success." Very few successful people are born successful, in my opinion it's not genetics. Everyone can improve themselves personally and professionally by reading IBD. If you want stock tips, try another service, if you want to learn and grow, IBD is one of the best. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Vanchee1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:50 PM IBD has brought some good stocks to my attention, usually in the stocks in the news section. That being said it is worth the subscription for me, but if you have not found any useful information then it may not be for you. 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IBD, DGO, = cwcharts, etc – this information is generally available for free at other = sites – the question is how much time you are willing to spend hunting around to = gather this info when it could be right in front of you.  My view is that = IBD is not just a stock pickers paper – my favorite section is = “Leaders and Success.”  Very few successful people are born = successful, in my opinion it’s not genetics.  Everyone can improve themselves personally and professionally by reading IBD.  If you want stock = tips, try another service, if you want to learn and grow, IBD is one of the = best.

 

 

Ed Gjertsen II

ed@macktracks.com

 

 

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-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Vanchee1@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, = 2003 9:50 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Renew IBD?

 

IBD has brought some good = stocks to my attention, usually in the stocks in the news section. That being said = it is worth the subscription for me, but if you have not found any useful = information then it may not be for you.

Chris.

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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 28 Jul 2003 10:44:57 -0700 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C354F5.49961880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ..= If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ". Instead of "I like EPIQ"= . No would have complained. I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple = of weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of th= e bag and drawing attention to a stock that was doing well. I believe an= other one brought up on the board was ONEV. Again asking for opinions. = For the people that are less experienced and learning in this terrible m= arket, it may actually help them make a buck. I think the board should s= et a rule for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a = stock should say " What do you think about this stock" Then it will brin= g it to our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no o= ne will get upset for " letting the cat out of the bag."nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a few other medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when = the market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% or more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long positions= in right now when the charts set up. Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM > Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts > about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything > more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is no= t > a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that said, w= e > are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a coupl= e > generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a > market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many > casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The leaders > get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the > market be your guide. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot > > for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this > stock, > and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my > VR > Fund. > > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volum= e > in > the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets= . > Now > only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. > > THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that d= o > not > like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am > already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it > to > move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to > negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and > there > is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth > watching, and learning from. > > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someon= e > something to talk about. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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I have to say = I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ.. If he had sai= d "what do you think about EPIQ".  Instead of "I like EPIQ". No woul= d have complained.  I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple of w= eeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of the ba= g and drawing attention to a stock that was doing well.  I believe a= nother one brought up on the board was ONEV.  Again asking for opini= ons.  For the people that are  less experienced and learning in= this terrible market, it may actually help them make a buck.  I thi= nk the board should set a rule for the future where everyone who want to = bring attention to a stock should say " What do you think about this stoc= k"  Then it will bring it to our attention, we can ask question= s, we can get answers, and no one will get upset for " letting the cat ou= t of the bag."nancy
 
 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C354F5.49961880-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 28 Mar 2003 13:19:51 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C2F52C.B7146B10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00AA_01C2F52C.B7146B10" ------=_NextPart_001_00AA_01C2F52C.B7146B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great comments Nancy - my thoughts were not necessarily directed at Tom and definitely not a criticism of this great board. There are members here who put a lot of time and effort into guiding those looking to learn. My concern is that some here may only want to take a fish out of the basket instead of learning to fish. This is the most intelligent, well versed board that I have been involved with and hope many here will make more than just a buck. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:45 PM I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ.. If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ". Instead of "I like EPIQ". No would have complained. I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple of weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of the bag and drawing attention to a stock that was doing well. I believe another one brought up on the board was ONEV. Again asking for opinions. For the people that are less experienced and learning in this terrible market, it may actually help them make a buck. I think the board should set a rule for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a stock should say " What do you think about this stock" Then it will bring it to our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no one will get upset for " letting the cat out of the bag."nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a few other medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when the market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% or more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long positions in right now when the charts set up. Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM > Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts > about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything > more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is not > a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that said, we > are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a couple > generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a > market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many > casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The leaders > get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the > market be your guide. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot > > for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this > stock, > and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my > VR > Fund. > > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volume > in > the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets. > Now > only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. > > THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that do > not > like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am > already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it > to > move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to > negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and > there > is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth > watching, and learning from. > > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someone > something to talk about. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Great comments Nancy = – my thoughts were not necessarily directed at Tom and definitely not a = criticism of this great board.  There are members here who put a lot of time and = effort into guiding those looking to learn.  My concern is that some here = may only want to take a fish out of the basket instead of learning to fish.  = This is the most intelligent, well versed board that I have been involved = with and hope many here will make more than just a buck. 

 

Ed Gjertsen II

ed@macktracks.com

 

 

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-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of NANCY POLCARO
Sent: Monday, July 28, = 2003 12:45 PM
To: canslim
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = EPIQ and other thoughts

 

I have to say I disagree = with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ.. If he had said "what do you = think about EPIQ".  Instead of "I like EPIQ". No would = have complained.  I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple of weeks = ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of the bag and = drawing attention to a stock that was doing well.  I believe another one = brought up on the board was ONEV.  Again asking for opinions.  For the = people that are  less experienced and learning in this terrible market, it = may actually help them make a buck.  I think the board should set a = rule for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a stock should = say " What do you think about this stock"  Then it will bring = it to our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no = one will get upset for " letting the cat out of the = bag."nancy

 

----- Original Message = -----

From: = Ian

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM

To:<= /font> canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts

 

I would reiterate Ed's = assertion that generic pharma and a few other
medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when = the
market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% = or
more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long = positions in
right now when the charts set up.



Ian


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM


> Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own = thoughts
> about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into = anything
> more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas.  = This is not
> a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips.  With = that said, we
> are currently looking at several different stocks.  We have = let a couple
> generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not = a
> market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. = many
> casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye.  The leaders
> get clipped for 10% or more.  Play small - be vigilant and let = the
> market be your guide.
>
>
> Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@macktracks.com
>
>
> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any = attachments,
> is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may = contain
> confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized = review, use,
> disclosure or distribution is prohibited.  If you are not the intended
> recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy = all
> copies of the original message.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom = Worley
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot
>
> for the members with this group for some time, you know I like = this
> stock,
> and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position = in my
> VR
> Fund.
>
> Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building = volume
> in
> the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the = markets.
> Now
> only 26 cents off the high point in the handle.
>
> THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those = that do
> not
> like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I = am
> already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you = buying it
> to
> move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" = remains flat to
> negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will = failed, and
> there
> is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be = worth
> watching, and learning from.
>
> Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give = someone
> something to talk about.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
>
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> -
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> -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
> -"unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quotes in your = email.


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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rolf Hertenstein" Subject: [CANSLIM] trivia question - off topic Date: 28 Mar 2003 16:41:54 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2F548.F0CE5660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm watching NPSP as a (short) case study. On Bigcharts, Yahoo, and = nasdaq.com the daily high is reported as 16.77. Charts on all three = sites show the intraday high closer to 16.45. The reported intraday low = (15.99) reported by all 3 sites does show up on all charts. I though = maybe 16.77 was the highest 'ask' but that would be too big spread for = this stock. Just curious about the difference between the chart high = and reported high - any ideas? Thanks! Rolf Thanks! 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I'm watching NPSP as a (short) case = study.  On=20 Bigcharts, Yahoo, and nasdaq.com the daily high is reported as = 16.77. =20 Charts on all three sites show the intraday high closer to 16.45.  = The=20 reported intraday low (15.99) reported by all 3 sites does show up on = all=20 charts.  I though maybe 16.77 was the highest 'ask' but that = would=20 be too big spread for this stock.  Just curious about the = difference=20 between the chart high and reported high - any ideas?
 
Thanks!
  Rolf
 
Thanks!
 Rolf
------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2F548.F0CE5660-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 28 Mar 2003 23:46:42 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C2F584.48AD2470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's ok, Nancy, a 5.5% gain for the day is its own reward, and put a = nice finish on a decent week ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:44 PM I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout = EPIQ.. If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ". Instead of "I = like EPIQ". No would have complained. I said that very thing about = Yahoo a couple of weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting = the cat out of the bag and drawing attention to a stock that was doing = well. I believe another one brought up on the board was ONEV. Again = asking for opinions. For the people that are less experienced and = learning in this terrible market, it may actually help them make a buck. = I think the board should set a rule for the future where everyone who = want to bring attention to a stock should say " What do you think about = this stock" Then it will bring it to our attention, we can ask = questions, we can get answers, and no one will get upset for " letting = the cat out of the bag."nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a few other medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, = when the market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% = or more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long = positions in right now when the charts set up. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward W. Gjertsen II To: Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts > Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own = thoughts > about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything > more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is = not > a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that = said, we > are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a = couple > generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a > market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many > casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The = leaders > get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the > market be your guide. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any = attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, = use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the = intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot > > for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this > stock, > and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in = my > VR > Fund. > > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building = volume > in > the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the = markets. > Now > only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. > > THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those = that do > not > like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I = am > already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying = it > to > move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to > negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, = and > there > is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be = worth > watching, and learning from. > > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give = someone > something to talk about. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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that's ok, Nancy, a 5.5% gain for the = day is its=20 own reward, and put a nice finish on a decent week
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: NANCY = POLCARO
To: canslim
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts

I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout = EPIQ..=20 If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ".  Instead of "I like = EPIQ".=20 No would have complained.  I said that very thing about Yahoo a = couple of=20 weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of the = bag and=20 drawing attention to a stock that was doing well.  I believe = another one=20 brought up on the board was ONEV.  Again asking for opinions.  = For the=20 people that are  less experienced and learning in this terrible = market, it=20 may actually help them make a buck.  I think the board should set a = rule=20 for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a stock = should say=20 " What do you think about this stock"  Then it will bring it = to our=20 attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no one will get = upset=20 for " letting the cat out of the bag."nancy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ian
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 = 9:24 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and = other=20 thoughts
 
I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma = and a=20 few other
medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of = days=20 ago, when the
market was flat, I was watching about 15 = pharma/medical=20 stocks up 4% or
more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable = taking=20 long positions in
right now when the charts set=20 up.



Ian


----- Original Message = -----
From: Edward=20 W. Gjertsen II <ed@macktracks.com>
To:=20 <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 = 4:40=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts


> Tom, = Tom, Tom=20 --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts
> = about this=20 board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything
> more = than an=20 educational forum whereby many exchange ideas.  This is = not
> a=20 place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips.  With that = said,=20 we
> are currently looking at several different stocks.  We = have=20 let a couple
> generic drug makers go by - leadership in this = area -=20 this is not a
> market for the weak at heart - one major set = back in=20 Iraq i.e. many
> casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink = of an=20 eye.  The leaders
> get clipped for 10% or more.  Play = small -=20 be vigilant and let the
> market be your = guide.
>
>
>=20 Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@macktracks.com
>
>
>=20 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any=20 attachments,
> is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) = and may=20 contain
> confidential and privileged information.  Any=20 unauthorized review, use,
> disclosure or distribution is=20 prohibited.  If you are not the intended
> recipient, = please=20 contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
> copies of = the=20 original message.
>
>
> -----Original = Message-----
>=20 From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
>=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom = Worley
>=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM
> To: CANSLIM
> = [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot
>
> for the = members=20 with this group for some time, you know I like this
> = stock,
> and=20 currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in = my
>=20 VR
> Fund.
>
> Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly = 2X ADV,=20 and has been building volume
> in
> the handle for several = days=20 now despite the light volume in the markets.
> Now
> only = 26 cents=20 off the high point in the handle.
>
> THIS IS NOT A = RECOMMENDATION=20 FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that do
> not
> like = small and=20 microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am
> = already up 30%=20 on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it
> = to
>=20 move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat = to
>=20 negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, = and
> there
> is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. = But it may=20 prove to be worth
> watching, and learning from.
>
> = Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give=20 someone
> something to talk about.
>
> Tom = Worley
>=20 stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: = TexWorley
>
>
>
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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C2F584.48AD2470-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] trivia question - off topic Date: 29 Mar 2003 00:08:58 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C2F587.64F9D580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DGO also shows 16.77 as the high for today, but the chart also agrees = with that. The NASDAQ chart doesn't even show it reaching 16.50, even in after = market trading. http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=3Dcharting&mode=3Dbasics&intraday= =3Don&timeframe=3D3m&charttype=3Dline&splits=3Doff&movingaverage=3Dnone&l= owerstudy=3Dvolume&comparison=3Doff&index=3D&drilldown=3Doff&symbol=3DNPS= P&selected=3DNPSP ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:41 PM I'm watching NPSP as a (short) case study. On Bigcharts, Yahoo, and = nasdaq.com the daily high is reported as 16.77. Charts on all three = sites show the intraday high closer to 16.45. The reported intraday low = (15.99) reported by all 3 sites does show up on all charts. I though = maybe 16.77 was the highest 'ask' but that would be too big spread for = this stock. Just curious about the difference between the chart high = and reported high - any ideas? Thanks! Rolf Thanks! Rolf ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C2F587.64F9D580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
DGO also shows 16.77 as the high for today, but = the chart=20 also agrees with that.
 
The NASDAQ chart doesn't even show it reaching = 16.50, even=20 in after market trading.
= http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=3Dcharting&mode=3Dbasics&= intraday=3Don&timeframe=3D3m&charttype=3Dline&splits=3Doff&am= p;movingaverage=3Dnone&lowerstudy=3Dvolume&comparison=3Doff&i= ndex=3D&drilldown=3Doff&symbol=3DNPSP&selected=3DNPSP
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rolf=20 Hertenstein
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:41 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] trivia question - off topic

I'm watching NPSP as a (short) case = study.  On=20 Bigcharts, Yahoo, and nasdaq.com the daily high is reported as = 16.77. =20 Charts on all three sites show the intraday high closer to 16.45.  = The=20 reported intraday low (15.99) reported by all 3 sites does show up on = all=20 charts.  I though maybe 16.77 was the highest 'ask' but that = would=20 be too big spread for this stock.  Just curious about the = difference=20 between the chart high and reported high - any ideas?
 
Thanks!
  Rolf
 
Thanks!
 Rolf
------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C2F587.64F9D580-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Fw: [CANSLIM] trivia question - off topic Date: 28 Mar 2003 23:47:17 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2F584.5DE2FB80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0015_01C2F584.5DE2FB80" ------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C2F584.5DE2FB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The low for the day shows but not the high on Schwab: Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] trivia question - off topic DGO also shows 16.77 as the high for today, but the chart also agrees = with that. The NASDAQ chart doesn't even show it reaching 16.50, even in after = market trading. = http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=3Dcharting&mode=3Dbasics&intraday= =3Don&timeframe=3D3m&charttype=3Dline&splits=3Doff&movingaverage=3Dnone&l= owerstudy=3Dvolume&comparison=3Doff&index=3D&drilldown=3Doff&symbol=3DNPS= P&selected=3DNPSP ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rolf Hertenstein=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] trivia question - off topic I'm watching NPSP as a (short) case study. On Bigcharts, Yahoo, and = nasdaq.com the daily high is reported as 16.77. Charts on all three = sites show the intraday high closer to 16.45. The reported intraday low = (15.99) reported by all 3 sites does show up on all charts. I though = maybe 16.77 was the highest 'ask' but that would be too big spread for = this stock. Just curious about the difference between the chart high = and reported high - any ideas? Thanks! Rolf Thanks! Rolf ------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C2F584.5DE2FB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
The low for the day shows but not the = high on=20 Schwab:
 
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 = 11:08=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] trivia = question -=20 off topic

DGO also shows 16.77 as the high for today, = but the=20 chart also agrees with that.
 
The NASDAQ chart doesn't even show it reaching = 16.50,=20 even in after market trading.
= http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=3Dcharting&mode=3Dbasics&= intraday=3Don&timeframe=3D3m&charttype=3Dline&splits=3Doff&am= p;movingaverage=3Dnone&lowerstudy=3Dvolume&comparison=3Doff&i= ndex=3D&drilldown=3Doff&symbol=3DNPSP&selected=3DNPSP
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rolf = Hertenstein
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:41 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] trivia question - off topic

I'm watching NPSP as a (short) case = study. =20 On Bigcharts, Yahoo, and nasdaq.com the daily high is reported as = 16.77. =20 Charts on all three sites show the intraday high closer to = 16.45.  The=20 reported intraday low (15.99) reported by all 3 sites does show up on = all=20 charts.  I though maybe 16.77 was the highest 'ask' but that = would=20 be too big spread for this stock.  Just curious about the = difference=20 between the chart high and reported high - any = ideas?
 
Thanks!
  Rolf
 
Thanks!
 Rolf
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 28 Jul 2003 21:03:01 -0700 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C3554B.A14D1F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its not O.K. to me Tom. I hate it when people say -be careful you helped= them to much, maybe someone besides me will make some money today. Soun= ds to me like someone want us to pay for picks if we get any. Anyway I'v= e had my say and thanks for all the help you try to be to us all. Having= the sense to see we are not take a night course at college-we are trying= to make money here. The end Zillagirl ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM that's ok, Nancy, a 5.5% gain for the day is its own reward, and put a ni= ce finish on a decent week ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:44 PM I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ..= If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ". Instead of "I like EPIQ"= . No would have complained. I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple = of weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of th= e bag and drawing attention to a stock that was doing well. I believe an= other one brought up on the board was ONEV. Again asking for opinions. = For the people that are less experienced and learning in this terrible m= arket, it may actually help them make a buck. I think the board should s= et a rule for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a = stock should say " What do you think about this stock" Then it will brin= g it to our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no o= ne will get upset for " letting the cat out of the bag."nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a few other medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when = the market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% or more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long positions= in right now when the charts set up. Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM > Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts > about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything > more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is no= t > a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that said, w= e > are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a coupl= e > generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a > market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many > casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The leaders > get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the > market be your guide. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot > > for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this > stock, > and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my > VR > Fund. > > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volum= e > in > the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets= . > Now > only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. > > THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that d= o > not > like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am > already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it > to > move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to > negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and > there > is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth > watching, and learning from. > > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someon= e > something to talk about. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Its not O.K. to me Tom.  I hate it w= hen people say -be careful you helped them to much, maybe someone besides= me will make some money today.  Sounds to me like someone want us t= o pay for picks if we get any.  Anyway I've had my say and thanks fo= r all the help you try to be to us all.  Having the sense = to see we are not take a night course at college-we are trying to make mo= ney here.  The end Zillagirl
 
----- Origina= l Message -----
From: Ian
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts
 I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a f= ew other
medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of day= s ago, when the
market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medica= l stocks up 4% or
more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable = taking long positions in
right now when the charts set up.


=
Ian


----- Original Message -----
From: Edward W. Gjerts= en II <ed@macktracks.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>=
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and= other thoughts


> Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watc= hing as well - my own thoughts
> about this board - I would hate to= see this group turn into anything
> more than an educational forum= whereby many exchange ideas.  This is not
> a place to lie in= the weeds and pick off stock tips.  With that said, we
> are = currently looking at several different stocks.  We have let a couple=
> generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is no= t a
> market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e= . many
> casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye.&= nbsp; The leaders
> get clipped for 10% or more.  Play small -= be vigilant and let the
> market be your guide.
>
>> Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@macktracks.com
>
>
> Co= nfidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments,
= > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
= > confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized revi= ew, use,
> disclosure or distribution is prohibited.  If you a= re not the intended
> recipient, please contact the sender by reply= e-mail and destroy all
> copies of the original message.
>>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Beha= lf Of Tom Worley
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM
> T= o: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot>
> for the members with this group for some time, you know I l= ike this
> stock,
> and currently own it for the 6th trip, pl= us have a large position in my
> VR
> Fund.
>
> T= raded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volume> in
> the handle for several days now despite the light volum= e in the markets.
> Now
> only 26 cents off the high point in= the handle.
>
> THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO B= UY, especially those that do
> not
> like small and microcap = stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am
> already up 30% on = this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it
> to
> = move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to
&g= t; negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed,= and
> there
> is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But = it may prove to be worth
> watching, and learning from.
>
= > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give som= eone
> something to talk about.
>
> Tom Worley
> = stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
>
&= gt; -
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> -"unsubsc= ribe canslim".  Do not use quotes in your email.
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com <= DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and oth= er thoughts
 
th= at's ok, Nancy, a 5.5% gain for the day is its own reward, and put a nice= finish on a decent week
 
----- Original Message -----
To: canslim
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts

I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Tom= s message aabout EPIQ.. If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ".&nb= sp; Instead of "I like EPIQ". No would have complained.  I said that= very thing about Yahoo a couple of weeks ago and no one said anything to= me for letting the cat out of the bag and drawing attention to a stock t= hat was doing well.  I believe another one brought up on the board w= as ONEV.  Again asking for opinions.  For the people that are&n= bsp; less experienced and learning in this terrible market, it may actual= ly help them make a buck.  I think the board should set a rule for t= he future where everyone who want to bring attention to a stock should sa= y " What do you think about this stock"  Then it will bring it to&nb= sp;our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no one wi= ll get upset for " letting the cat out of the bag."nancy
 = ;
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:2= 4 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmiss= ion.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLI= M] EPIQ and other thoughts
 
I would reiterate Ed's = assertion that generic pharma and a few other
medicaldevice makers are= leading this market. A couple of days ago, when the
market was flat, = I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% or
more. It is the= sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long positions in
right no= w when the charts set up.



Ian


----- Original Me= ssage -----
From: Edward W. Gjertsen II <ed@macktracks.com>
T= o: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4= :40 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts


> Tom,= Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts
&g= t; about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything> more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas.  = This is not
> a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips.&= nbsp; With that said, we
> are currently looking at several differe= nt stocks.  We have let a couple
> generic drug makers go by -= leadership in this area - this is not a
> market for the weak at h= eart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many
> casualties, the marke= t will drop 5% in a blink of an eye.  The leaders
> get clippe= d for 10% or more.  Play small - be vigilant and let the
> mar= ket be your guide.
>
>
> Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@mack= tracks.com
>
>
> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail me= ssage, including any attachments,
> is for the sole use of the inte= nded recipient(s) and may contain
> confidential and privileged inf= ormation.  Any unauthorized review, use,
> disclosure or distr= ibution is prohibited.  If you are not the intended
> recipien= t, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
> copi= es of the original message.
>
>
> -----Original Message= -----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owne= r-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
> Sent: Thurs= day, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM= ] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot
>
> for the members with t= his group for some time, you know I like this
> stock,
> and = currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my
&g= t; VR
> Fund.
>
> Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2= X ADV, and has been building volume
> in
> the handle for sev= eral days now despite the light volume in the markets.
> Now
>= ; only 26 cents off the high point in the handle.
>
> THIS IS= NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that do
>= not
> like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the t= rend. I am
> already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any= of you buying it
> to
> move it up and make me profitable. T= he trend of "M" remains flat to
> negative, and many other c&h = patterns have failed, or will failed, and
> there
> is no way= to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth
> wat= ching, and learning from.
>
> Besides, it's been real quiet i= n the group, maybe this will give someone
> something to talk about= .
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: T= exWorley
>
>
>
> -
> -To subscribe/unsubscr= ibe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"
> -In the email body, write "su= bscribe canslim" or
> -"unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quot= es in your email.
>
>
> -
> -To subscribe/unsubsc= ribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"
> -In the email body, write "s= ubscribe canslim" or
> -"unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quo= tes in your email.


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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C3554B.A14D1F00-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold Josephson" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Selection In Today's Market Date: 29 Mar 2003 00:21:19 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C2F589.292B1850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gene, Do you have the Link to the follow-on article to this one? Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:13 AM http://www.schwab.com/SchwabNOW/SNLibrary/SNLib123/SN123EmailArticle/0,, 864|5937,00.html?orig=atebulletin &dest=kentowermar&pos=toc Gene ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C2F589.292B1850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Gene,

 

Do you have the Link to the = follow-on article to this one?

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>] On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Thursday, March 13, = 2003 7:13 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock = Selection In Today's Market

 

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 29 Mar 2003 00:21:19 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C2F589.2C644A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, I tried to use the chart evaluator and received the following message You must be a subscriber to our Platinum service to use this tool. Please subscribe to the Platinum Service to access this tool more frequently. Hence my recent email to Katherine asking which services are free to members of this group. Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:59 PM I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have commented on how useful it is ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:09 PM Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site as Gene didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's question. www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational material about CANSLIM stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free trial. As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, members of this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) or look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php). Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:34 PM Joe, here are some good sites: http://pring.com/tradersden.htm (loads of free stuff) http://pring.com/movies.htm (all free) http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/ (all free) http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff) http://www.stockconsultant.com/ (5 charts-analysis/day free) Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:04 PM Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about reading them and viewing them. Thanks, Joe ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C2F589.2C644A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Mike,

 

I tried to use the chart evaluator = and received the following message

 


You must be a subscriber to our Platinum service to use this tool.
Please subscribe to the Platinum Service to access this tool more = frequently.

  

------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C2F589.292B1850-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. /o:p>

Hence my recent email to Katherine asking which services are free to members of this = group.

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, = 2003 6:59 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = info on pivot points and charts

 

I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not only has = Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have commented on how = useful it is

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March = 11, 2003 6:09 PM

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts

 

Gene... How COULD you!!! ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gibbons
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, = 2003 3:02 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = info on pivot points and charts

I hope I'll be forgiven for mentioning our (Katherine and myself) site as Gene = didn't mention it and it does go to the point of Joe's = question.

 

www.cwhcharts.com shows pivot = points for cup-with-handle patterns and there is educational material about CANSLIM = stocks and cup-with-handle chart patterns. There's a 7-day free = trial.

 

As a return for the valuable insights we learn from this group, members of = this discussion group can access our CANSLIM Evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) = or look for cwh patterns using our chart selector (www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php).

 

 

Aloha,

 

Mike Gibbons

Proactive Technologies, LLC

http://www.proac= tech.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, = 2003 12:34 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = info on pivot points and charts

Joe, here are some = good sites:

 

 

 

 

http://stockcharts.com/ (loads of free stuff)

 

 

Gene

 

=

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March = 10, 2003 9:04 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts

 

Are there any favorite sites to get pivot point price of

moving stocks, and good site for charting, learning about

reading them and viewing them.

  &nbs= p;             =                 =                 =                 =     Thanks,

  &nbs= p;             =                 =                 =                 =     Joe

=

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C2F589.2C644A50-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Date: 29 Mar 2003 07:21:42 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C2F5C3.D8DFAB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Harold, We have made 3 of our tools available to members of the CANSLIM list: Charts: http://www.cwhcharts.com/charts/kmchart.php Canslim Evaluator (limited to 5 per day per person): http://www.cwhcharts.com/canslim/ Chart Selector (limited to 5 per day per person): http://www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold Josephson Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 2:21 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts Hi Mike, I tried to use the chart evaluator and received the following message You must be a subscriber to our Platinum service to use this tool. Please subscribe to the Platinum Service to access this tool more frequently. Hence my recent email to Katherine asking which services are free to members of this group. Thanks Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:59 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on pivot points and charts I was also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not only has Mike generously allowed members to use it, but many have commented on how useful it is ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C2F5C3.D8DFAB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Harold,
 
We have made 3 of our tools = available to=20 members of the CANSLIM list:
 
Charts: http://www.cwhcharts= .com/charts/kmchart.php
Canslim Evaluator (limited to 5 = per day per=20 person): http://www.cwhcharts.com/cansl= im/
Chart Selector (limited to 5 per = day per=20 person): http://www.cwhcharts.com/cs.php<= /A>
 
Katherine
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Harold=20 Josephson
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 2:21 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

Hi=20 Mike,

 

I tried to = use the=20 chart evaluator and received the following=20 message

 


You = must be a=20 subscriber to our Platinum service to use this tool.
Please subscribe=20 to the Platinum Service to access this tool more=20 frequently.

 

Hence my = recent email to Katherine asking which services are free = to=20 members of this group.

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold=20 Josephson
Tel:=20 323.850.1333
Fax: = 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com=20

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: = Tuesday, March=20 11, 2003 6:59 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] info on = pivot=20 points and charts

 

I was=20 also wondering why Gene didn't mention the cwhcharts site, not only = has Mike=20 generously allowed members to use it, but many have commented on how = useful it=20 is

 

 
------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C2F5C3.D8DFAB00-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "inderjit" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 29 Mar 2003 09:29:25 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2F5D5.B0DB33B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is always good. When Tom "recommends" ;-) a stock on canslim list, the whole world knows and starts buying so the price shoots. Small cap adds to this fire. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:47 PM that's ok, Nancy, a 5.5% gain for the day is its own reward, and put a nice finish on a decent week ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:44 PM I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ.. If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ". Instead of "I like EPIQ". No would have complained. I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple of weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of the bag and drawing attention to a stock that was doing well. I believe another one brought up on the board was ONEV. Again asking for opinions. For the people that are less experienced and learning in this terrible market, it may actually help them make a buck. I think the board should set a rule for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a stock should say " What do you think about this stock" Then it will bring it to our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no one will get upset for " letting the cat out of the bag."nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a few other medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when the market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% or more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long positions in right now when the charts set up. Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM > Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts > about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything > more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is not > a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that said, we > are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a couple > generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a > market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many > casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The leaders > get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the > market be your guide. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot > > for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this > stock, > and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my > VR > Fund. > > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volume > in > the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets. > Now > only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. > > THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that do > not > like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am > already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it > to > move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to > negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and > there > is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth > watching, and learning from. > > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someone > something to talk about. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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That is always good. When Tom = “recommends” ;-) a stock on canslim list, the whole world knows and starts buying so the = price shoots. Small cap adds to this fire.

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, March 28, = 2003 11:47 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = EPIQ and other thoughts

 

that's ok, Nancy, a 5.5% = gain for the day is its own reward, and put a nice finish on a decent = week<= /p>

 

----- Original Message = -----

To:<= /font> canslim

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:44 PM

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts

 

I have to say I disagree = with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ.. If he had said "what do you = think about EPIQ".  Instead of "I like EPIQ". No would = have complained.  I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple of weeks = ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of the bag and = drawing attention to a stock that was doing well.  I believe another one = brought up on the board was ONEV.  Again asking for opinions.  For the = people that are  less experienced and learning in this terrible market, it = may actually help them make a buck.  I think the board should set a = rule for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a stock should = say " What do you think about this stock"  Then it will bring = it to our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no = one will get upset for " letting the cat out of the = bag."nancy

 

----- Original Message = -----

From: = Ian

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM

To:<= /font> canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts

 

I would reiterate Ed's = assertion that generic pharma and a few other
medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when = the
market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% = or
more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long = positions in
right now when the charts set up.



Ian


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM


> Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own = thoughts
> about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into = anything
> more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas.  = This is not
> a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips.  With = that said, we
> are currently looking at several different stocks.  We have = let a couple
> generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not = a
> market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. = many
> casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye.  The leaders
> get clipped for 10% or more.  Play small - be vigilant and let = the
> market be your guide.
>
>
> Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@macktracks.com
>
>
> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any = attachments,
> is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may = contain
> confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized = review, use,
> disclosure or distribution is prohibited.  If you are not the intended
> recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy = all
> copies of the original message.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom = Worley
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM
> To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot
>
> for the members with this group for some time, you know I like = this
> stock,
> and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position = in my
> VR
> Fund.
>
> Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building = volume
> in
> the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the = markets.
> Now
> only 26 cents off the high point in the handle.
>
> THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those = that do
> not
> like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I = am
> already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you = buying it
> to
> move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" = remains flat to
> negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will = failed, and
> there
> is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be = worth
> watching, and learning from.
>
> Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give = someone
> something to talk about.
>
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
>
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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2F5D5.B0DB33B0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 29 Mar 2003 09:05:05 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_1/AMWejnx+eyRTxeEAoWPg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all: It's official now! Nanocap CANSLIM works, as well as having low beta, and providing consistent market-beating returns: http://www.marketocracy.com/media/pdf/fundspotlight/istmartin.pdf :) Cheers, Ian --Boundary_(ID_1/AMWejnx+eyRTxeEAoWPg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi all:
 
It's official now! Nanocap CANSLIM works, as well as having low beta, and providing consistent market-beating returns:
 
 
:)
 
Cheers,
 
Ian
--Boundary_(ID_1/AMWejnx+eyRTxeEAoWPg)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 29 Mar 2003 10:43:51 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C2F5E0.1643D9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, Ian. That's super. Congrats on your exceptional performance! Katherine -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ian Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:05 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Hi all: It's official now! Nanocap CANSLIM works, as well as having low beta, and providing consistent market-beating returns: http://www.marketocracy.com/media/pdf/fundspotlight/istmartin.pdf :) Cheers, Ian ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C2F5E0.1643D9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow, Ian. That's super. Congrats = on your=20 exceptional performance!
 
Katherine
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 Ian
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:05 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] It's official. = Nanocap=20 CANSLIM works ...

Hi all:
 
It's official now! Nanocap CANSLIM works, as well = as having=20 low beta, and providing consistent market-beating = returns:
 
http://www.marketocracy.com/media/pdf/fundspotlight/istmartin.pdf
 
:)
 
Cheers,
 
Ian
------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C2F5E0.1643D9A0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" with references to WON books Date: 29 Mar 2003 11:32:13 -0600 Hi Rolf, For the definitive answer to your question, I contacted the MarketTester author, Bill Lee (www.market-tester.com). Here is his response: Hi Katherine -- Rolf is correct - the rally should begin on the first up day after the market bottoms out. I've changed the Website explanation (the arrow on the graph now points to the first up-day as the first day of the rally). I've also changed the Tester itself - in effect, shifting the acceptable rally window one day forward. Note - this only affects the new follow through definition, with the new rally definition. For those using the Tester, let me know and I'll provide an updated version with this fix. Thanks to you both for pointing this out. Bill -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rolf Hertenstein Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:49 PM Thanks for the link. I'm bothered by his second graphic (New definition of Follow Through). He's starting to count on a day that closed lower (looks like 09/21/2001). That can't be right, can it? Rolf > Hi All, > > Here's a summary explanation of WON's guidelines for both the "old" and the > "new" definition of a FTD: > > http://www.market-tester.com/newft.htm > > My read on WON's guidelines is that 1%+ would be fine if it were accompanied > by a slew of breakouts. 2% is useful, but even it doesn't hold water without > a slew of stocks at least *setting up* for breakout. > > In either case, it only makes sense that the "market" is a summary indicator > of its individual components. If the majority of individual CANSLIM-quality > stocks are acting well, then our "market" is healthy. If the individual > CANSLIM-quality stocks are not acting well, it's a mine field. As Ed said, > grounds for stepping lightly. > > Katherine > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tim Katona > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:40 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" with references to WON books > > > Rolf, > That was the page I was looking for! > > From page 78 of WON's 24 lessons book, In bold letters: > "You only start counting a rally if the close is up from the prior day." > In this case, Wednesday March 12 did close higher than Tuesday. > > Also on page 78: > ""Follow-through" day. Index up 1% or more on increased volume from the day > before. Market is in new uptrend. Usually occurs fourth through seventh day > of an attempted rally." > > (Since 24 lessons was published WON did change the "Index up 1% or more on > increased volume from the day before" to 2% or more.) > > Also see HTMMIS third edition pages 64 and 65 on rally attempt, 2% reasoning > and follow-through day. Interesting, WON says that a follow-through could > even occur on the third day of a rally attempt if certain conditions exist. > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rolf Hertenstein > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:16 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > I've been following the example from 24 Lessons, pg. 78. The first day of > an attempted rally is a day in which an index closes up sans volume > considerations. A FTD day usually occurs on day 4 to 7 (higher volume, 2% > increase). From Tim's comments, IBD is following that criteria. > > I guess an 'attempted' rally becomes a 'confirmed' rally if a FTD occurs on > days 4 thru 7 (and as late as 10). I try to qualify 'attempts' based on the > action of the first day; we've had at least a couple of weak attempts (that > failed) lately. > > Rolf > > > > I think so, but welcome other opinions on this. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > Thanks, Tom. For my edification, do you think your count is in accordance > > with WON? > > > > Rolf > > > > > I start my count with yesterday, because of the combination of price > gain > > > and volume. On Wednesday, volume improved, but only sufficient to turn a > > > down day into a moderate loss. Historically, maybe Wednesday will prove > to > > > be a reversal day that marked a second bottom. But by itself I don't use > > it > > > as a starting point for counting. Thursday, on the other hand, can stand > > on > > > its own merits. > > > > > > It also does not hurt that every major index participated Thursday, > while > > > only most were benefiting on Wednesday > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rolf Hertenstein" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:35 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > Does anyone count yesterday other than day 2, and if so, what and why? > > > > > > Rolf > > > > > > > strictly market days, Mike > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mike" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:41 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly was a fine rally, the shorts are writhing in fear. I > wouldn't > > > be > > > > disappointed to see a retest soon, how that goes will be more telling. > > > > > > > > How are you counting the 4-7 days, market days or including weekends? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > OK, we got a good rally today, whether it was just a relief rally, or > > > short > > > > covering, or maybe even a real rally, with real sidelined cash flowing > > > back > > > > in. > > > > > > > > Mutual funds only have two weeks to invest any cash in excess of their > > > > limits, and may have contributed. A delay in a vote at the UN is being > > > > credited, so just may be news driven, here today, gone tomorrow. > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, we certainly got a 2+% gain on every index, and on volume > > > well > > > > exceeding daily average. And that comes in a period when daily volume > > has > > > > been typically well under average. > > > > > > > > So, is anybody starting to count the days, looking for the follow thru > > day > > > > 4-7 days out? Coincidentally, that period might also fall just after > war > > > > with Iraq is unilaterally initiated by the USA, which would cause at > > least > > > > some minor relief rally. > > > > > > > > Does anyone trust today's gains? With so much news, can we trust > > > technicals? > > > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net > > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > > << > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vanchee1@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 29 Mar 2003 13:36:33 EST --part1_62.2ebb552f.2bb741b1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice write up Ian, I like your style. One that might fit for you, I recently started to accumulate is SSYS. Chris. --part1_62.2ebb552f.2bb741b1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice write up Ian, I like your style. One that might f= it for you, I recently started to accumulate is SSYS.

Chris. --part1_62.2ebb552f.2bb741b1_boundary-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts Date: 29 Jul 2003 11:24:25 -0700 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C355C3.F7992B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think Tom has proven he is not out to pump and dump to the canslim "dum= mies", but I will throw in that I read on another site that there is a gr= oup of traders out there that have a trading strategy of shorting canslim= breakouts-That may have something to do with some of the breakouts losin= g ground.nancy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:29 AM That is always good. When Tom =E2=80=9Crecommends=E2=80=9D ;-) a stock on= canslim list, the whole world knows and starts buying so the price shoot= s. Small cap adds to this fire. =20 -----Original Message----- on.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:47 PM =20 that's ok, Nancy, a 5.5% gain for the day is its own reward, and put a ni= ce finish on a decent week =20 ----- Original Message ----- =20 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:44 PM =20 I have to say I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ..= If he had said "what do you think about EPIQ". Instead of "I like EPIQ"= . No would have complained. I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple = of weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of th= e bag and drawing attention to a stock that was doing well. I believe an= other one brought up on the board was ONEV. Again asking for opinions. = For the people that are less experienced and learning in this terrible m= arket, it may actually help them make a buck. I think the board should s= et a rule for the future where everyone who want to bring attention to a = stock should say " What do you think about this stock" Then it will brin= g it to our attention, we can ask questions, we can get answers, and no o= ne will get upset for " letting the cat out of the bag."nancy =20 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM =20 I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma and a few other medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple of days ago, when = the market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/medical stocks up 4% or more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfortable taking long positions= in right now when the charts set up. Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM > Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we are watching as well - my own thoughts > about this board - I would hate to see this group turn into anything > more than an educational forum whereby many exchange ideas. This is no= t > a place to lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips. With that said, w= e > are currently looking at several different stocks. We have let a coupl= e > generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this is not a > market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Iraq i.e. many > casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an eye. The leaders > get clipped for 10% or more. Play small - be vigilant and let the > market be your guide. > > > Ed Gjertsen II > ed@macktracks.com > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM > To: CANSLIM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pivot > > for the members with this group for some time, you know I like this > stock, > and currently own it for the 6th trip, plus have a large position in my > VR > Fund. > > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building volum= e > in > the handle for several days now despite the light volume in the markets= . > Now > only 26 cents off the high point in the handle. > > THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYONE TO BUY, especially those that d= o > not > like small and microcap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am > already up 30% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it > to > move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to > negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will failed, and > there > is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail. But it may prove to be worth > watching, and learning from. > > Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will give someon= e > something to talk about. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@bellsouth.net > AIM: TexWorley > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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I think Tom has proven he is not out to pump = and dump to the canslim "dummies", but I will throw in that I read o= n another site that there is a group of traders out there that have a tra= ding strategy of shorting canslim breakouts-That may have something to do= with some of the breakouts losing ground.nancy
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: inderjit
<= DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:29= AM
To: canslim@lists.xmissi= on.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM= ] EPIQ and other thoughts
 

That is always good. When Tom= =E2=80=9Crecommends=E2=80=9D ;-) a stock on canslim list, the whole worl= d knows and starts buying so the price shoots. Small cap adds to this fir= e.

 

-----Original Message-----
<= B>From: owner-canslim@lists.= xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:47 PM
<= B>To: canslim@lists.xmission= .com
Subject: Re: [CAN= SLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts

 

that's ok, Nancy, a 5.5= % gain for the day is its own reward, and put a nice finish on a decent w= eek

 =

----- Original Message -----

=

To: canslim

Sent: Monday, July 28= , 2003 12:44 PM

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts<= /SPAN>

 

<= P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">I have to say= I disagree with your thoughts on Toms message aabout EPIQ.. If he had sa= id "what do you think about EPIQ".  Instead of "I like EPIQ". No wou= ld have complained.  I said that very thing about Yahoo a couple of = weeks ago and no one said anything to me for letting the cat out of the b= ag and drawing attention to a stock that was doing well.  I believe = another one brought up on the board was ONEV.  Again asking for opin= ions.  For the people that are  less experienced and learning i= n this terrible market, it may actually help them make a buck.  I th= ink the board should set a rule for the future where everyone who want to= bring attention to a stock should say " What do you think about this sto= ck"  Then it will bring it to our attention, we can ask questio= ns, we can get answers, and no one will get upset for " letting the cat o= ut of the bag."nancy

 

----- Original Message -----

From:<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Ian

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 AM

=

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /SPAN>

Subject: Re: [= CANSLIM] EPIQ and other thoughts

=

 =

I would reiterate Ed's assertion that generic pharma a= nd a few other
medicaldevice makers are leading this market. A couple = of days ago, when the
market was flat, I was watching about 15 pharma/= medical stocks up 4% or
more. It is the sector that I'd be most comfor= table taking long positions in
right now when the charts set up.


Ian


----- Original Message -----
From: Edward W. = Gjertsen II <ed@macktracks.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.c= om>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] EP= IQ and other thoughts


> Tom, Tom, Tom --- This is one we ar= e watching as well - my own thoughts
> about this board - I would h= ate to see this group turn into anything
> more than an educational= forum whereby many exchange ideas.  This is not
> a place to = lie in the weeds and pick off stock tips.  With that said, we
>= ; are currently looking at several different stocks.  We have let a = couple
> generic drug makers go by - leadership in this area - this= is not a
> market for the weak at heart - one major set back in Ir= aq i.e. many
> casualties, the market will drop 5% in a blink of an= eye.  The leaders
> get clipped for 10% or more.  Play s= mall - be vigilant and let the
> market be your guide.
>
&= gt;
> Ed Gjertsen II
> ed@macktracks.com
>
>
&= gt; Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachment= s,
> is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may conta= in
> confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorize= d review, use,
> disclosure or distribution is prohibited.  If= you are not the intended
> recipient, please contact the sender by= reply e-mail and destroy all
> copies of the original message.
= >
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-cansl= im@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] O= n Behalf Of Tom Worley
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:22 PM
= > To: CANSLIM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ - c&h approaching pi= vot
>
> for the members with this group for some time, you kn= ow I like this
> stock,
> and currently own it for the 6th tr= ip, plus have a large position in my
> VR
> Fund.
>
= > Traded up today 20 cents, on nearly 2X ADV, and has been building vo= lume
> in
> the handle for several days now despite the light= volume in the markets.
> Now
> only 26 cents off the high po= int in the handle.
>
> THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYON= E TO BUY, especially those that do
> not
> like small and mic= rocap stocks, or don't like fighting the trend. I am
> already up 3= 0% on this trip alone, so I don't need any of you buying it
> to> move it up and make me profitable. The trend of "M" remains flat to=
> negative, and many other c&h patterns have failed, or will f= ailed, and
> there
> is no way to know if EPIQ will also fail= . But it may prove to be worth
> watching, and learning from.
&g= t;
> Besides, it's been real quiet in the group, maybe this will gi= ve someone
> something to talk about.
>
> Tom Worley> stkguru@bellsouth.net
> AIM: TexWorley
>
>
>= ;
> -
> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.= com"
> -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
> -"u= nsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quotes in your email.
>
&g= t;
> -
> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission= .com"
> -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
> -"= unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quotes in your email.


-=
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-In the = email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
-"unsubscribe canslim". = Do not use quotes in your email.

------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C355C3.F7992B60-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Selection In Today's Market Date: 29 Mar 2003 13:49:56 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C2F5FA.15619120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Harold, hasn't been released... will post when I get it. Best, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Josephson=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 2:21 AM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Selection In Today's Market Hi Gene, =20 Do you have the Link to the follow-on article to this one? =20 Thanks =20 Harold =20 Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:13 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Selection In Today's Market =20 =20 = http://www.schwab.com/SchwabNOW/SNLibrary/SNLib123/SN123EmailArticle/0,,8= 64|5937,00.html?orig=3Datebulletin&dest=3Dkentowermar&pos=3Dtoc=20 =20 Gene=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C2F5FA.15619120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Harold, hasn't been released... will = post when I=20 get it.
 
Best,
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold=20 Josephson
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 = 2:21=20 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock = Selection In=20 Today's Market

Hi=20 Gene,

 

Do you have = the Link=20 to the follow-on article to this one?

 

Thanks

 

Harold

 

Harold=20 Josephson
Tel:=20 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com=20

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Gene=20 Ricci
Sent: = Thursday, March=20 13, 2003 7:13 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock = Selection In Today's Market

 

 

http://www.schwab.com/SchwabNOW/SNLibrary/SNLib123/SN123EmailArti= cle/0,,864|5937,00.html?orig=3Datebulletin&dest=3Dkentowermar&pos= =3Dtoc=20
 
 Gene=20

------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C2F5FA.15619120-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: [CANSLIM] other thoughts Date: 29 Mar 2003 14:21:27 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C2F5FE.7CEAB4D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_005F_01C2F5FE.7CEAB4D0" ------=_NextPart_001_005F_01C2F5FE.7CEAB4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have spoken with and met several traders who make a living off of canslim investors. Typically - they are momentum traders who closely monitor cup and handle patterns; buy a couple thousand shares just prior to the pivot and sell few minutes or hours later as canslimers pile in a. I have not heard of too many shorting into these breakouts and being successful. A cup and handle pattern, especially lower handles tend to look like a "head and shoulders," a bearish chart pattern. Some aggressive short sellers sell into the rise along the right side of the shoulder but have tight stops. What we have seen over the past 3 years when breakouts fail was the "M" was still not ready to go. When several of the breakouts turned and headed south the market soon followed. So far, many of the breakouts have stuck. Keep your eyes on the leaders. Most important - watch how the market is reacting to news (good or bad). Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------=_NextPart_001_005F_01C2F5FE.7CEAB4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We have spoken with and met = several traders who make a living off of canslim investors.  Typically – they = are momentum traders who closely monitor cup and handle patterns; buy a = couple thousand shares just prior to the pivot and sell few minutes or hours = later as canslimers pile in a.  I have not heard of too many shorting into = these breakouts and being successful.  A cup and handle pattern, = especially lower handles tend to look like a “head and shoulders,” a = bearish chart pattern.  Some aggressive short sellers sell into the rise = along the right side of the shoulder but have tight stops.  What we have seen = over the past 3 years when breakouts fail was the “M” was still = not ready to go.  When several of the breakouts turned and headed south = the market soon followed.  So far, many of the breakouts have = stuck.  Keep your eyes on the leaders.  Most important – watch how = the market is reacting to news (good or bad). 

 

 

Ed Gjertsen II

ed@macktracks.com

 

 

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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 29 Mar 2003 16:40:19 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01C2F611.E23A6570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good job, Ian, nice write up. Always nice to see CANSLIM in action, and = proving that it works even in a bear market ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:05 PM Hi all: It's official now! Nanocap CANSLIM works, as well as having low beta, = and providing consistent market-beating returns: http://www.marketocracy.com/media/pdf/fundspotlight/istmartin.pdf :) Cheers, Ian ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01C2F611.E23A6570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
good job, Ian, nice write up. Always nice to see = CANSLIM=20 in action, and proving that it works even in a bear market
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ian
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:05 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works=20 ...

Hi all:
 
It's official now! Nanocap CANSLIM works, as well as = having=20 low beta, and providing consistent market-beating returns:
 
http://www.marketocracy.com/media/pdf/fundspotlight/istmartin.pdf
 
:)
 
Cheers,
 
Ian
------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01C2F611.E23A6570-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 29 Mar 2003 15:15:04 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C9_01C2F605.F9BE8FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nancy,=20 Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. ($13.00 = mo). They maintain a database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are = exhibiting characteristics similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy = used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. From these 100 = Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the best looking = Chart Patterns such as "Cup and Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch List. Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy = Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of = each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report which = alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.=20 They have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... check it out.=20 They also have industry information (partial listing):=20 Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated 3/29/03) = =20 Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score. =20 If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which = usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0 =20 =20 INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return = YEARLY Previous Years Leaders =20 GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers = (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001 =20 Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% = Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3% =20 Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% = Medical-HMO's 29.7% =20 Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic = 15.7% Banks-West 23.6% =20 Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial = Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2% =20 Computer-Memory Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory = Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9% =20 Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% = Consumer-Misc Products 21.9% =20 Medical-Drugs Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks = 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3% =20 Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% = Transportation-Trucking 18.7% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5% =20 Electrical-Lasers Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3% =20 Commercial Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3% =20 Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers = Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000 =20 Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% = Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55% =20 Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% = Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6% =20 Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals = 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2% =20 Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services = 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10% =20 Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% = Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1% =20 Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT 71% -18% =20 Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30% =20 Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod = 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING 55% -3% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl = Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY 52% 6% =20 Building-Wood Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% = Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL = 49% 5% =20 Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1% =20 Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly = Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001 =20 Computer-Developmnt & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & = Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS 142% -7% =20 Computer-Enterprise Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% = Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES 123% 13% =20 Financial-Mortgage Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% = Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & = PRODUCTION 110% -20% =20 Financial-Savings & Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels = Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% =20 Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% = ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32% =20 Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty = -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2% =20 Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations = -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 84% 49% =20 Building-Heavy Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% = Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 79% = 12% =20 Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% = TOBACCO 77% 28% =20 Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% = Retail/Wholesale-Office Supplies=20 Membership Plans Normal Rate Discount Rate=20 2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A=20 Monthly Membership $19.95 None=20 6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95 =20 1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95=20 Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no other affiliation with = them. 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Nancy,=20
 
Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. =20 ($13.00 mo).

They maintain a database of 100 Stocks = (updated=20 Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics similar to the=20 "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil of=20 Investors Business Daily. From these 100 Stocks they pick out the = ones=20 which are exhibiting the best looking Chart Patterns such as = "Cup and=20 Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat=20 Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch = List.

Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List = includes=20 Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. = Meanwhile at=20 the end of each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report = which=20 alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.

They have a free weekly = email AND a=20 2-week free trial.... check it out.

They also have industry information = (partial=20 listing):

 

Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated = 3/29/03)
Groups Ranked=20 on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score.
If the Table is=20 scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which usually takes = care of=20 the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0
INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return YEARLY Previous Years Leaders
GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001
Communication-Fiber Optic=20 Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3%
Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7%
Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6%
Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2%
Computer-Memory=20 Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9%
Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9%
Medical-Drugs = Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3%
Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% Transportation-Trucking 18.7%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5%
Electrical-Lasers=20 Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3%
Commercial=20 Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3%
Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000
Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55%
Electrical-Semiconductors=20 Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6%
Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2%
Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10%
Transportation-Heavy=20 Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1%
Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT   71% -18%  
Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30%
Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING         =20 55% -3%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY   52% 6%
Building-Wood = Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   49% 5%  
Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1%
Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001
Computer-Developmnt &=20 Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS       = 142% -7%  
Computer-Enterprise=20 Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES     123% 13%
Financial-Mortgage=20 Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% 110% -20%
Financial-Savings &=20 Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19%
Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32%
Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2%
Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   84% 49%
Building-Heavy=20 Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2%   79% 12%
Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% TOBACCO           &n= bsp;    =20 77% 28%
Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% Retail/Wholesale-Office = Supplies
 
 
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Gene
------=_NextPart_000_01C9_01C2F605.F9BE8FC0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview Date: 29 Mar 2003 20:25:35 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AC_01C2F631.5A79D740 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_01AD_01C2F631.5A79D740" ------=_NextPart_001_01AD_01C2F631.5A79D740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HOUSING Housing sales, both new and existing, have helped power and sustain the = economy for several years. Many with expertise in this sector (Katherine = included) have doubted the strength and ability to continue this trend. = It is significant, both for its creation of additional consumer spending = (everybody has to buy something new for the new house, no matter how = "perfect" it is), as well as the long term commitment to major debt even = in the face of rising unemployment, and loss of job security. The = industry has been well supported by falling mortgage rates, which have = also allowed many to refinance, and either reduce their monthly mortgage = payment (thus having more to spend on something else), or pull out = equity giving them cash to pay off higher rate debt (hopefully) or spend = on other consumer goods. While this week saw further weakening in = housing sales reports, it must be remembered that these are being = compared to all time records, which is just not sustainable month after = month. Existing home sales fell in February by 4.3% to a 5.84 million unit = annual rate (4th highest on record). January was revised upward to 6.1 = million rate from 6.09 million (December was also revised up). Expected = was 5.8 million. Sales price was at $161.6K, up 8.2% from Feb 2002, = while inventory dropped to a 4.4 month supply from 4.5 months. New home sales also fell sharply, down 8.1% to an annual rate of = 854,000, against an expectation of 935,000. January was revised up to = 929K from 914K. While new home sales make up only a small portion of the = sector, they are crucial to the expectations on earnings growth for home = builder stock prices. ------- ECONOMICS The Conference Board's consumer confidence index slipped to 62.5 in = March from 64.8, lowest rating since Oct 1993. Expected was 62.4. = Expectations index also fell (62.5 from 65.7) as did the present = situations index (62.4 from 63.5). Credit card delinquencies rose to 4.07% from 4.00% for 4th quarter 2002, = highest since data collection began in 1990 and second month in a row to = set a record. Just check what Sear's (S) stock did when they announced = last week they were considering selling their house credit card = business. Consumer loans delinquencies (including auto and home equity) = rose to 2.16% from 2.06%. Home equity loans alone were up to 1.64%.=20 Durable goods orders slowed further, down another 1.2% and in line with = expectations. However, excluding defense goods, the drop was sharper, = down 2.7%. Capital goods (excluding defense and aircraft) was down 2.8%. = Computers and electronics products was down 2.9%. The Chicago PMI and = the ISM Index are reporting next week (Monday, Tuesday) and both are = expected to show sharp drops, with the national ISM Index slipping into = contraction mode. New claims for unemployment fell to 402K last week, well under = expectations of 419K (maybe everyone glued to their TV set?) while the 4 = week moving average followed, down to 422,500 from 426,500. Continuing = claims slowed to 3.52 million from 3.53 million. Personal income grew 0.3% in February while personal spending was = unchanged. Spending, adjusted for price changes, actually fell 0.4%. = Spending on durable goods dropped 2.2% (undoubtedly continued high gas / = energy prices contributed to lack of funds for discretionary spending). Univ. of Michigan revised its March reading on consumer confidence from = 75 up to 77.6, still the lowest since August 1993. Current conditions = were 90.0, down from Feb's 95.4 and future conditions were unchanged at = 69.9, both revised upward slightly. ------- "M" All the major indexes ended up remaining over their 50 dma, but none = were able to climb further. NASDAQ 100, and Composite, were the only = ones already well over their 200 dma, and stayed there, reflecting more = the long drop in recent months and the sharp recovery on this market = compared to the rest. Most indexes also showed well under average = volume, as everyone watched the news on the Iraq war, and remained = uncertain about the near future. A clear trend is not evident from the = charts as the market continues to move more on news than fundamentals. = Ten day average of up/down volume reached a 2 for 1 ratio while the ten = day average of new highs to new lows finally struggled into positive = territory for the first time in months. "M" remains fragile, mostly = sideways, and susceptible to any bad news whether war related or = economics (but especially war related right now). Despite the negative = tone of the market for the week, both NASDAQ and NYSE Composite are more = overbought than a week ago. ------- WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES=20 This list is in no way intended to recommend any stocks to the group. It = is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health of CANSLIM's = "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some stocks with = constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from = (and of course doing your own due diligence). I am employed in = Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views = or opinions of my employer. I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS ranking of 80 or better, = and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition / buyout = scenario. I look at all charts that meet this general RS/EPS criteria, = focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I consider all = industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings forecast = for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no = due diligence, that is your responsibility. I will note any CANSLIM = patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) bottoms, or flat bases = (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also note LLUR = (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely are any of these stocks of interest to me for my = personal investing due size, price or industry group. I will note any = stocks in which I have a current personal financial interest, whether = real money or virtual reality (VR). The population of stocks I am reviewing this weekend was growing = slightly, despite market trends.=20 AET - b/o from a short, low handle despite weakness in the group ANSI - nice b/o Thursday from a trading range / handle on heavy volume BSTE - nice cup BWS - long consolidation handle DNEX - B6 DRL - base on base?, nice b/o on volume Friday EDUC - B5, in my VR Fund, low price, volume ELTE - c&h, low price, volume, in my VR Fund EPIQ - of course, nice b/o on volume Friday ERES - LLUR FCN - LLUR, volatile, but volatility reduced lately, nice straight 200 = dma average doubled in a year FRX - double bottom, at the pivot GAF - B11 GIL - B8 IMDC - b/o Thursday JCOM - handle forming? OZRK - B10 PFCB - c&h PSUN - c&h, handle slightly high SFFS - LLUR, but no earnings growth STJ - young LLUR? SYK - c&h UCBH - c&h, volume picked up Friday as it approached the pivot God bless America and our troops Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley ------=_NextPart_001_01AD_01C2F631.5A79D740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HOUSING
Housing sales, both new and existing, have = helped power=20 and sustain the economy for several years. Many with expertise in this = sector=20 (Katherine included) have doubted the strength and ability to continue = this=20 trend. It is significant, both for its creation of additional consumer = spending=20 (everybody has to buy something new for the new house, no matter how = "perfect"=20 it is), as well as the long term commitment to major debt even in the = face of=20 rising unemployment, and loss of job security. The industry has been = well=20 supported by falling mortgage rates, which have also allowed many to = refinance,=20 and either reduce their monthly mortgage payment (thus having more to = spend on=20 something else), or pull out equity giving them cash to pay off higher = rate debt=20 (hopefully) or spend on other consumer goods. While this week saw = further=20 weakening in housing sales reports, it must be remembered that these are = being=20 compared to all time records, which is just not sustainable month after=20 month.
 
Existing home sales fell in February by 4.3% to = a 5.84=20 million unit annual rate (4th highest on record). January was revised = upward to=20 6.1 million rate from 6.09 million (December was also revised up). = Expected was=20 5.8 million. Sales price was at $161.6K, up 8.2% from Feb 2002, while = inventory=20 dropped to a 4.4 month supply from 4.5 months.
 
New home sales also fell sharply, down 8.1% to = an annual=20 rate of 854,000, against an expectation of 935,000. January was revised=20 up to 929K from 914K. While new home sales make up only a small = portion of=20 the sector, they are crucial to the expectations on earnings growth for = home=20 builder stock prices.
ECONOMICS
The Conference Board's consumer confidence index = slipped=20 to 62.5 in March from 64.8, lowest rating since Oct 1993. Expected was = 62.4.=20 Expectations index also fell (62.5 from 65.7) as did the present = situations=20 index (62.4 from 63.5).
 
Credit card delinquencies rose to 4.07% from = 4.00% for 4th=20 quarter 2002, highest since data collection began in 1990 and second = month in a=20 row to set a record. Just check what Sear's (S) stock did when they = announced=20 last week they were considering selling their house credit card = business.=20 Consumer loans delinquencies (including auto and home equity) rose to = 2.16% from=20 2.06%. Home equity loans alone were up to 1.64%.
 
Durable goods orders slowed further, down = another 1.2% and=20 in line with expectations. However, excluding defense goods, the drop = was=20 sharper, down 2.7%. Capital goods (excluding defense and aircraft) was = down=20 2.8%. Computers and electronics products was down 2.9%. The Chicago PMI = and the=20 ISM Index are reporting next week (Monday, Tuesday) and both are = expected to=20 show sharp drops, with the national ISM Index slipping into contraction=20 mode.
 
New claims for unemployment fell to 402K last = week, well=20 under expectations of 419K (maybe everyone glued to their TV set?) while = the 4=20 week moving average followed, down to 422,500 from 426,500. Continuing = claims=20 slowed to 3.52 million from 3.53 million.
 
Personal income grew 0.3% in February while = personal=20 spending was unchanged. Spending, adjusted for price changes, actually = fell=20 0.4%. Spending on durable goods dropped 2.2% (undoubtedly continued high = gas /=20 energy prices contributed to lack of funds for discretionary=20 spending).
 
Univ. of Michigan revised its March reading on = consumer=20 confidence from 75 up to 77.6, still the lowest since August 1993. = Current=20 conditions were 90.0, down from Feb's 95.4 and future conditions were = unchanged=20 at 69.9, both revised upward slightly.
"M"
All the major indexes ended up remaining over = their 50=20 dma, but none were able to climb further. NASDAQ 100, and Composite, = were the=20 only ones already well over their 200 dma, and stayed there, reflecting = more=20 the long drop in recent months and the sharp recovery on this = market=20 compared to the rest. Most indexes also showed well under average = volume, as=20 everyone watched the news on the Iraq war, and remained uncertain about = the near=20 future. A clear trend is not evident from the charts as the market = continues to=20 move more on news than fundamentals. Ten day average of up/down volume = reached a=20 2 for 1 ratio while the ten day average of new highs to new lows finally = struggled into positive territory for the first time in months. "M" = remains=20 fragile, mostly sideways, and susceptible to any bad news whether war = related or=20 economics (but especially war related right now). Despite the negative = tone of=20 the market for the week, both NASDAQ and NYSE Composite are more = overbought than=20 a week ago.
WORLEY'S WATCHLIST = WANNABES
This list is in no way intended to recommend any = stocks to=20 the group. It is a part of my regular personal assessment of the health = of=20 CANSLIM's "M" and, as the name implies, only intended to identify some = stocks=20 with constructive chart patterns that may be worth WATCHING and learning from (and of = course doing=20 your own due diligence). I am employed = in=20 Operations by a US Broker Dealer, however everything presented by me is = strictly=20 my own ideas and in no way should be taken to reflect the views or = opinions of=20 my employer.
 
I typically list stocks with both RS and EPS = ranking of 80=20 or better, and try to exclude stocks undergoing any merger / acquisition = /=20 buyout scenario. I look at all charts that meet = this general RS/EPS=20 criteria, focusing on ones at or close to a new 12 month high. I = consider all=20 industry groups and prices, even those I will not consider for my = personal=20 investing. I no longer will actively consider earnings = forecast=20 for this year and next due the confusing data presented by DGO. I do no due diligence, that is your = responsibility. I will=20 note any CANSLIM patterns I see, such as c&h, double (or triple) = bottoms, or=20 flat bases (shown as Bx where "x" is the # of weeks, IMO). I will also = note LLUR=20 (Lower Left Upper Right) even though it is not exactly a CANSLIM = pattern. Rarely=20 are any of these stocks of interest to me for my personal investing due = size,=20 price or industry group. I will note any stocks in which I have a = current=20 personal financial interest, whether real money or virtual reality=20 (VR).
 
The population of stocks I am reviewing this = weekend was=20 growing slightly, despite market trends.
 
AET - b/o from a short, low handle despite = weakness in the=20 group
ANSI - nice b/o Thursday from a trading range / = handle on=20 heavy volume
BSTE - nice cup
BWS - long consolidation handle
DNEX - B6
DRL - base on base?, nice b/o on volume=20 Friday
EDUC - B5, in my VR Fund, low price, = volume
ELTE - c&h, low price, volume, in my VR=20 Fund
EPIQ - of course, nice b/o on volume = Friday
ERES - LLUR
FCN - LLUR, volatile, but volatility reduced = lately, nice=20 straight 200 dma average doubled in a year
FRX - double bottom, at the pivot
GAF - B11
GIL - B8
IMDC - b/o Thursday
JCOM - handle forming?
OZRK - B10
PFCB - c&h
PSUN - c&h, handle slightly = high
SFFS - LLUR, but no earnings growth
STJ - young LLUR?
SYK - c&h
UCBH - c&h, volume picked up Friday as it = approached=20 the pivot
 
God bless America and our troops
 
3D""
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: = TexWorley
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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 29 Mar 2003 20:48:10 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_E3qUEKvhDk9lhADCOOg6Vw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Chris: I originally bought SSYS at its breakout at $5 on October '01, and sold in March last year at just a modest profit. I never did re-enter - but I have been watching the volume over the last 2 weeks - it is way higher than it was on the original breakout, so I'm intrigued (although it is nearing the $14 plateau that many of these stocks see). I've been trying to get a handle on 12-24 month growth prospects. Do you have any estimates, and reasons to believe them? Thanks, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Vanchee1@aol.com To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Nice write up Ian, I like your style. One that might fit for you, I recently started to accumulate is SSYS. Chris. --Boundary_(ID_E3qUEKvhDk9lhADCOOg6Vw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi Chris:
 
I originally bought SSYS at its breakout at $5 on October '01, and sold in March last year at just a modest profit. I never did re-enter - but I have been watching the volume over the last 2 weeks - it is way higher than it was on the original breakout, so I'm intrigued (although it is nearing the $14 plateau that many of these stocks see). I've been trying to get a handle on 12-24 month growth prospects. Do you have any estimates, and reasons to believe them?
 
Thanks,
 
Ian
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ...

Nice write up Ian, I like your style. One that might fit for you, I recently started to accumulate is SSYS.

Chris.
--Boundary_(ID_E3qUEKvhDk9lhADCOOg6Vw)-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vanchee1@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 29 Mar 2003 23:34:50 EST --part1_fb.3bd42e04.2bb7cdea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SSYS Ian, Some information I have is; Earnings estimate for this year is .83 last year they did .56 diluted. They currently have record backlog. Company is authorized to buy back 4 Million $ of stock. Appears to be the leader in their market. Worth digging into alittle deeper, Chris. PS a few more you might want to glance at, CVH, ABRX, CURE. The first and last one look ready to pop IMO. --part1_fb.3bd42e04.2bb7cdea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SSYS  Ian, Some information I have is; Earnings e= stimate for this year is .83 last year they did .56 diluted.
They currently have record backlog.
Company is authorized to buy back 4 Million $ of stock.
Appears to be the leader in their market.

Worth digging into alittle deeper, Chris.

PS a few more you might want to glance at, CVH,  ABRX,  CURE. The=20= first and last one look ready to pop IMO. --part1_fb.3bd42e04.2bb7cdea_boundary-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Norman Boyd" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 30 Mar 2003 06:19:05 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2F684.43DDF1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, Do you own any of the 3? Norm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Vanchee1@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... SSYS Ian, Some information I have is; Earnings estimate for this year = is .83 last year they did .56 diluted. They currently have record backlog. Company is authorized to buy back 4 Million $ of stock. Appears to be the leader in their market. Worth digging into alittle deeper, Chris. PS a few more you might want to glance at, CVH, ABRX, CURE. The = first and last one look ready to pop IMO.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2F684.43DDF1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris,
 
Do you own any of the 3?
 
Norm
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Vanchee1@aol.com=20
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 = 10:34=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's = official.=20 Nanocap CANSLIM works ...

SSYS  Ian, Some information I have is; = Earnings=20 estimate for this year is .83 last year they did .56 diluted.
They=20 currently have record backlog.
Company is authorized to buy back 4 = Million=20 $ of stock.
Appears to be the leader in their market.

Worth = digging=20 into alittle deeper, Chris.

PS a few more you might want to = glance at,=20 CVH,  ABRX,  CURE. The first and last one look ready to pop=20 IMO. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2F684.43DDF1D0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vanchee1@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] It's official. Nanocap CANSLIM works ... Date: 30 Mar 2003 15:20:19 EST --part1_168.1c79a74e.2bb8ab83_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Norm,Yes I own all three, Why? Chris --part1_168.1c79a74e.2bb8ab83_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Norm,Yes I own all three, Why?

Chris
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Oh, I dunno.  I was just thinking that a disclaimer would be=20 nice:-)  Thanks.
 
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 ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C2F6D3.5CC8EFC0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roger Tawa Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Historical data in excell Date: 30 Mar 2003 20:58:06 -0500 Hi Katherine, Can you explain (or send a link to an explanation of) how cash divide= nds adjust the price of a stock? Thanks. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [You ain't nothing yet.] -----Original Message----- =46rom: =09owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Mal= m Sent:=09Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:14 AM Hi Sebastien, In order to used the canned stock price chart in Excel, you'll need t= o move the location of the "volume" column as exported from Yahoo. Here's a = quick example so that you can see how the data needs to look: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/ChartYahooData.xls Be very careful when using the exported Yahoo historical data, howeve= r, because when you do an export to Excel, they include the *adjusted* c= losing price rather than the actual closing price. That's not a problem when= they pay stock dividends (splits) but a big problem when they pay cash div= idends. In other words, your chart will not reflect the trading closes if the= stock pays a cash dividend. Katherine -----Original Message----- =46rom: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of S=E9bastien Der= ks Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:21 AM Can anyone explain how to make a chart with historical date from finance.yahoo.com in Excel. I tried it with the stock and it tells me= to put it into a certain order but it just does not work. Thanks. PS Maybe an example excel sheet would be nice. Thanks :). - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 30 Mar 2003 08:55:07 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C2F69A.10494930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in = their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM approach This may be a holdover from the site owner's several years as a day = trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day moving average, = rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be more for = short term trading rather than long term investing. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM Nancy,=20 Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. ($13.00 = mo). They maintain a database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are = exhibiting characteristics similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy = used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. From these 100 = Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the best looking = Chart Patterns such as "Cup and Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch List. Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy = Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of = each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report which = alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.=20 They have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... check it out.=20 They also have industry information (partial listing):=20 Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated 3/29/03) = =20 Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score. =20 If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which = usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0 =20 =20 INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return = YEARLY Previous Years Leaders =20 GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers = (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001 =20 Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% = Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3% =20 Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% = Medical-HMO's 29.7% =20 Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic = 15.7% Banks-West 23.6% =20 Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial = Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2% =20 Computer-Memory Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory = Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9% =20 Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% = Consumer-Misc Products 21.9% =20 Medical-Drugs Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks = 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3% =20 Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% = Transportation-Trucking 18.7% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5% =20 Electrical-Lasers Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3% =20 Commercial Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3% =20 Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers = Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000 =20 Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% = Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55% =20 Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% = Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6% =20 Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals = 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2% =20 Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services = 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10% =20 Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% = Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1% =20 Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT 71% -18% =20 Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30% =20 Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod = 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING 55% -3% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl = Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY 52% 6% =20 Building-Wood Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% = Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL = 49% 5% =20 Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1% =20 Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly = Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001 =20 Computer-Developmnt & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & = Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS 142% -7% =20 Computer-Enterprise Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% = Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES 123% 13% =20 Financial-Mortgage Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% = Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & = PRODUCTION 110% -20% =20 Financial-Savings & Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels = Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% =20 Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% = ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32% =20 Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty = -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2% =20 Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations = -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 84% 49% =20 Building-Heavy Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% = Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 79% = 12% =20 Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% = TOBACCO 77% 28% =20 Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% = Retail/Wholesale-Office Supplies=20 Membership Plans Normal Rate Discount Rate=20 2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A=20 Monthly Membership $19.95 None=20 6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95 =20 1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95=20 Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no other affiliation with = them. 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Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses = Fibanacci=20 numbers in their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM=20 approach
 
This may be a holdover from the site owner's = several years=20 as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day moving = average,=20 rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be more for = short term=20 trading rather than long term investing.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look = At

Nancy,=20
 
Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. =20 ($13.00 mo).

They maintain a database of 100 Stocks = (updated=20 Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics similar to the=20 "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil of=20 Investors Business Daily. From these 100 Stocks they pick out the = ones=20 which are exhibiting the best looking Chart Patterns such as = "Cup and=20 Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat=20 Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch = List.

Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List = includes=20 Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. = Meanwhile at=20 the end of each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report = which=20 alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.

They have a free weekly = email AND a=20 2-week free trial.... check it out.

They also have industry information = (partial=20 listing):

 

Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated = 3/29/03)
Groups Ranked=20 on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score.
If the Table is=20 scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which usually takes = care of=20 the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0
INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return YEARLY Previous Years Leaders
GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001
Communication-Fiber Optic=20 Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3%
Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7%
Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6%
Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2%
Computer-Memory=20 Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9%
Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9%
Medical-Drugs = Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3%
Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% Transportation-Trucking 18.7%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5%
Electrical-Lasers=20 Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3%
Commercial=20 Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3%
Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000
Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55%
Electrical-Semiconductors=20 Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6%
Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2%
Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10%
Transportation-Heavy=20 Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1%
Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT   71% -18%  
Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30%
Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING         =20 55% -3%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY   52% 6%
Building-Wood = Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   49% 5%  
Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1%
Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001
Computer-Developmnt &=20 Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS       = 142% -7%  
Computer-Enterprise=20 Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES     123% 13%
Financial-Mortgage=20 Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% 110% -20%
Financial-Savings &=20 Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19%
Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32%
Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2%
Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   84% 49%
Building-Heavy=20 Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2%   79% 12%
Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% TOBACCO           &n= bsp;    =20 77% 28%
Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% Retail/Wholesale-Office = Supplies
 
 
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2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A
Monthly Membership $19.95 None
6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95
1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95
 
Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no = other=20 affiliation with them.
Gene
------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C2F69A.10494930-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Historical data in excell Date: 30 Mar 2003 21:25:57 -0600 Hi Roger, It all has to do with the period of time the stock is trading ex-dividend; that is, trading without the dividend attached. For example, look at the historical data for MMM: http://table.finance.yahoo.com/k?s=mmm&g=d Notice that on 3/28/03, the actual trading close and the adjusted close listed are both $130.31. However, look a bit further down the history and notice, for example, that the trading close on 2/18/03 was $126.61 and the adjusted close was $125.95. The difference between the two is the $0.66 cash dividend paid on 2/19. When you look at any charting program, the prices you see charted are always the *trading* open/high/low/close, not the cash dividend adjusted close. If you export historical data from Yahoo into a spreadsheet, they export the *adjusted* close rather than the trading close. During those periods where the stock is trading ex-dividend, you will therefore see a distortion if you use that data for charting manually. At the bottom of the historical data, you'll also see a link to Yahoo's FAQ which explains the differences between the trading and the dividend adjusted close. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Roger Tawa Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 7:58 PM Hi Katherine, Can you explain (or send a link to an explanation of) how cash dividends adjust the price of a stock? Thanks. ================================================= Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [You ain't nothing yet.] -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:14 AM Hi Sebastien, In order to used the canned stock price chart in Excel, you'll need to move the location of the "volume" column as exported from Yahoo. Here's a quick example so that you can see how the data needs to look: http://www.cwhcharts.com/katherine/ChartYahooData.xls Be very careful when using the exported Yahoo historical data, however, because when you do an export to Excel, they include the *adjusted* closing price rather than the actual closing price. That's not a problem when they pay stock dividends (splits) but a big problem when they pay cash dividends. In other words, your chart will not reflect the trading closes if the stock pays a cash dividend. Katherine -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sébastien Derks Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:21 AM Can anyone explain how to make a chart with historical date from finance.yahoo.com in Excel. I tried it with the stock and it tells me to put it into a certain order but it just does not work. Thanks. PS Maybe an example excel sheet would be nice. Thanks :). - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 30 Mar 2003 22:30:22 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_088D_01C2F70B.F3A28310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, I just got a wall hanging from a former buy-hold investor defining = investing time frames: Short Term: Buy and Sell within the hour Intermediate Term: Buy and Sell before Close Long Term: Buy and Hold overnight (Monday through Thursday) Buy-Hold: Buy and Hold over the weekend Have a great week, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in = their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM approach This may be a holdover from the site owner's several years as a day = trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day moving average, = rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be more for = short term trading rather than long term investing. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Nancy,=20 Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. = ($13.00 mo). They maintain a database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are = exhibiting characteristics similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy = used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. From these 100 = Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the best looking = Chart Patterns such as "Cup and Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch List. Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy = Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of = each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report which = alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.=20 They have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... check it = out.=20 They also have industry information (partial listing):=20 Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated 3/29/03) = =20 Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score. =20 If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times = which usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0 =20 =20 INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return = YEARLY Previous Years Leaders =20 GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly = Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001 =20 Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% = Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3% =20 Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services = 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7% =20 Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs = Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6% =20 Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial = Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2% =20 Computer-Memory Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory = Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9% =20 Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing = 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9% =20 Medical-Drugs Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks = 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3% =20 Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% = Transportation-Trucking 18.7% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5% =20 Electrical-Lasers Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3% =20 Commercial Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3% =20 Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers = Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000 =20 Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% = Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55% =20 Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% = Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6% =20 Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% = Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2% =20 Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services = 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10% =20 Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% = Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1% =20 Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT 71% -18% =20 Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber = Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30% =20 Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING 55% -3% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl = Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY 52% 6% =20 Building-Wood Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% = Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL = 49% 5% =20 Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1% =20 Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly = Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001 =20 Computer-Developmnt & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto = & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS 142% -7% = Computer-Enterprise Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% = Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES 123% 13% =20 Financial-Mortgage Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% = Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & = PRODUCTION 110% -20% =20 Financial-Savings & Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels = Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% =20 Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines = -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32% =20 Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty = -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2% =20 Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations = -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 84% 49% =20 Building-Heavy Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% = Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 79% = 12% =20 Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% = TOBACCO 77% 28% =20 Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% = Retail/Wholesale-Office Supplies=20 Membership Plans Normal Rate Discount Rate=20 2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A=20 Monthly Membership $19.95 None=20 6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95 =20 1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95=20 Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no other affiliation = with them. Gene ------=_NextPart_000_088D_01C2F70B.F3A28310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom, I just got a wall hanging = from a=20 former buy-hold investor defining investing time frames:
 
Short Term: Buy and Sell within the=20 hour
Intermediate Term: Buy and Sell before = Close
Long Term: Buy and Hold overnight = (Monday=20 through Thursday)
Buy-Hold: Buy and Hold over the=20 weekend
 
Have a great week,
Gene
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 = 7:55=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock = Analysis=20 Sites to Look At

Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses = Fibanacci=20 numbers in their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM=20 approach
 
This may be a holdover from the site owner's = several=20 years as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day = moving=20 average, rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be = more for=20 short term trading rather than long term investing.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look = At

Nancy,=20
 
Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm.  ($13.00 mo).

They maintain a database of 100 Stocks = (updated=20 Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics similar to the=20 "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil = of=20 Investors Business Daily. From these 100 Stocks they pick out the = ones=20 which are exhibiting the best looking Chart Patterns such as = "Cup and=20 Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch=20 List.

Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch = List includes=20 Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. = Meanwhile at=20 the end of each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout = Report which=20 alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.

They have a free weekly = email AND a=20 2-week free trial.... check it out.

They also have industry = information (partial=20 listing):

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold Josephson" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 30 Mar 2003 21:53:42 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2F706.D5317D50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01C2F706.D5348A90" ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C2F706.D5348A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tom, Here is a friend's analysis of the Amateur-Investor site: "I looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance. They listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and one of the stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the others? They said they use an 8% stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% loss set on subsequent highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was 1%, with virtually all of the gain coming from one of the three winners. The spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more accurate representation of returns instead of basing it on the highest price over the past six months." The spreadsheet is attached as a Zip file. I'm merely the messenger. Best, Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 5:55 AM Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM approach This may be a holdover from the site owner's several years as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day moving average, rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be more for short term trading rather than long term investing. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM Nancy, Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. ($13.00 mo). They maintain a database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. From these 100 Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the best looking Chart Patterns such as "Cup and Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch List. Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report which alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out. They have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... check it out. They also have industry information (partial listing): Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated 3/29/03) Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score. If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0 INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return YEARLY Previous Years Leaders GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001 Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3% Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7% Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6% Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2% Computer-Memory Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9% Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9% Medical-Drugs Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3% Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% Transportation-Trucking 18.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5% Electrical-Lasers Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3% Commercial Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3% Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000 Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55% Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6% Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2% Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1% Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT 71% -18% Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30% Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING 55% -3% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY 52% 6% Building-Wood Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 49% 5% Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1% Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001 Computer-Developmnt & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS 142% -7% Computer-Enterprise Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES 123% 13% Financial-Mortgage Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & PRODUCTION 110% -20% Financial-Savings & Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32% Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2% Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 84% 49% Building-Heavy Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 79% 12% Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% TOBACCO 77% 28% Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% Retail/Wholesale-Office Supplies Membership Plans Normal Rate Discount Rate 2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A Monthly Membership $19.95 None 6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95 1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95 Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no other affiliation with them. Gene ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C2F706.D5348A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10">

Hi = Tom,

 

Here is a friend’s analysis = of the Amateur-Investor site:

 

“I looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance.

 

They listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they = profiled, and one of the stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the = others? They sa<= font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial Black">id they use an 8% = stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% loss set on subsequent = highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was 1%, with virtually all = of the gain coming from one of the three winners.

 

The spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more = accurate representation of returns instead of basing it on the highest price over = the past six months.”

 

The spreadsheet is attached as a = Zip file.  I’m merely the messenger.

 

Best,

 

Harold

 

Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated = 3/29/03)
Groups Ranked=20 on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score.
If the Table=20 is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which usually = takes care=20 of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0
INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return YEARLY Previous Years Leaders
GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001
Communication-Fiber=20 Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3%
Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7%
Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6%
Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2%
Computer-Memory=20 Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9%
Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9%
Medical-Drugs=20 Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3%
Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% Transportation-Trucking 18.7%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5%
Electrical-Lasers=20 Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3%
Commercial=20 Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3%
Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000
Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55%
Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6%
Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2%
Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10%
Transportation-Heavy=20 Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1%
Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT   71% -18%  
Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30%
 

Just be aware that Amateur = Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in their analysis in combination with their = WON / CANSLIM approach

 

This may be a holdover from = the site owner's several years as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 = and 50 day moving average, rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and = tends to be more for short term trading rather than long term = investing.

 

----- Original Message = -----

From: Gene Ricci =

Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At

 

Nancy, =

 

Have you = looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm.  ($13.00 mo).

They maintain a = database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics = similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. = From these 100 Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the = best looking Chart Patterns such as "Cup and = Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat Bases" which are then listed in their = Stocks to Watch List.

Every Stock in = their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific = Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of each trading day we email our = members a Daily Breakout Report which alerts investors to those Stocks which are = breaking out.

They = have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... = Banks-Southeast

 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING         =20 55% -3%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY   52% 6%
Building-Wood=20 Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   49% 5%  
Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1%
Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001
Computer-Developmnt=20 & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS       = 142% -7%  
Computer-Enterprise=20 Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES     = 123% 13%
Financial-Mortgage=20 Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% 110% -20%
Financial-Savings &=20 Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% check it out.

They also have industry information (partial listing):

 

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Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months = (Updated 3/29/03)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32%
Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2%
Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   84% 49%
Building-Heavy=20 Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE=20 DRUG/SUPPLIES  = 79% 12%
Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% TOBACCO           &n= bsp;    =20 77% 28%
Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% Retail/Wholesale-Office=20 Supplies
 
 
Membership = Plans Normal Rate = Discount = Rate
2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A
Monthly Membership $19.95 None
6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95
1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95
 
Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no = other=20 affiliation with them.
Gene
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Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with = 99 the best score.

 

If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh = Button a few times which usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer = 6.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

INDUSTRY

CURRENT

1 Month

3 Months

6 Months

One Week

Total Return

 

 

YEARLY

 

Previous Years = Leaders

 

GROUP

RANK

Ago

Ago

Ago

Change

since 1/1/03

 

Top Yearly Performers = (2003)

RETURN

 

Top Yearly Performers = (2002)

2002

2001

 

Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip

99

99

79

99

3.4%

55.3%

 

Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip

55.3%

 

Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems

105.3%

 

 

Internet-Services

=

99

99

99

24

4.1%

19.0%

 

Internet-Services

=

19.0%

 

Medical-HMO's

29.7%

 

 

Internet-Retailing

99

95

99

78

-2.0%

13.4%

 

Medical-Drugs = Generic

15.7%

 

Banks-West

23.6%

 

 

Media-Cable/Wireless<= /p>

98

84

97

4

-1.6%

9.5%

 

Commercial = Services-Education

14.3%

 

Banks-Northeast

23.2%

 

 

Computer-Memory = Devices

98

96

83

4

2.4%

13.8%

 

Computer-Memory = Devices

13.8%

 

Financial-Savings & = Loan

22.9%

 

 

Computer-Networks

=

97

70

95

5

-0.3%

13.2%

 

Internet-Retailing

13.4%

 

Consumer-Misc = Products

21.9%

 

 

Medical-Drugs = Generic

97

95

96

98

3.9%

15.7%

 

Computer-Networks

=

13.2%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod

21.3%

 

 

Computer-Medical

96

96

88

74

2.9%

11.0%

 

Computer-Medical

11.0%

 

Transportation-Trucking

18.7%

 

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod

96

99

91

88

3.2%

10.7%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod

10.7%

 

Banks-Southeast

18.5%

 

 

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95

93

92

11

-1.9%

3.5%

 

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10.4%

 

Banks-Midwest

17.3%

 

 

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95

87

68

98

0.1%

14.3%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Computer-Security

=

94

94

97

14

-1.6%

8.4%

 

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2001

2000

 

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94

58

64

79

-1.4%

10.3%

 

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6.6%

 

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126%

-55%

 

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93

59

94

2

-3.9%

3.5%

 

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5.9%

 

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117%

-6%

 

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93

93

92

48

-2.4%

3.2%

 

Medical-Hospitals

=

5.4%

 

LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY

104%

-2%

 

Communication-Equipment

92

78

84

7

0.3%

4.7%

 

Internet-Services

=

4.1%

 

RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE = SUPPLIES

87%

-10%

 

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92

97

80

84

3.1%

5.2%

 

Medical-Drugs = Generic

3.9%

 

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77%

-1%

 

 

 

Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg

91

84

77

31

0.5%

5.5%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated

3.7%

 

FOOD-MEAT  

71%

-18%

 

 

 

 

Computer-Graphics

=

91

79

48

6

0.8%

8.2%

 

Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip

3.4%

 

COMMERCIAL = SERVICES-SECURITY

57%

-30%

 

 

 

 

Banks-Southeast

90

89

62

96

1.0%

7.7%

 

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3.2%

 

LEISURE-GAMING       &nbs= p; 

55%

-3%

 

 

 

 

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90

97

56

86

3.7%

10.4%

 

Oil&Gas-Intl = Specialty

3.2%

 

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52%

6%

 

 

 

 

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89

63

75

16

-3.7%

1.4%

 

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3.1%

 

BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   =

49%

5%

 

 

 

 

Machine-Metal

89

92

90

8

-3.1%

0.1%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Household-Audio/Video=

88

98

91

95

-2.1%

7.9%

 

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Top Yearly Performers = (2000)

2000

2001

 

 

 

 

Computer-Developmnt & = Application

88

25

98

3

-1.8%

-14.7%

 

Auto & Truck-Replacement = Parts

-10.7%

 

MEDICAL-HOSPITALS       =

142%

-7%

 

 

 

 

Computer-Enterprise = Software

87

80

95

11

-0.4%

-1.1%

 

Computer-Computer = Mfg

-10.5%

 

MEDICAL-SERVICES     =

123%

13%

 

 

 

 

Financial-Mortgage = Services

87

73

53

80

0.3%

7.4%

 

Electrical-Semiconductor = Equip

-6.0%

 

OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & = PRODUCTION

110%

-20%

 

 

 

 

Financial-Savings & = Loan

86

88

69

93

-0.1%

5.0%

 

Leisure-Hotels = Motels

-5.8%

 

MEDICAL-GENERIC = DRUGS

102%

19%

 

Medical-Drugs

86

72

73

26

2.4%

5.0%

 

Transportation-Airlines

-5.7%

 

ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES

98%

-32%

 

Communication-Wireless

85

69

84

18

-2.2%

2.3%

 

Steel-Specialty

-5.3%

 

MEDICAL-HMO'S

91%

-2%

 

Banks-Northeast

85

86

68

97

-0.1%

4.9%

 

Diversified = Operations

-5.2%

 

BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   =

84%

49%

 

Building-Heavy = Construction

84

72

40

29

-1.2%

5.5%

 

Retail-Consumer = Electric

-5.2%

 

MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 

79%

12%

 

Banks-West

84

87

71

97

-0.4%

4.1%

 

Retail-Drug = Stores

-5.0%

 

TOBACCO       &nbs= p;        

77%

28%

 

Insurance-Diversified=

83

92

85

22

-4.0%

-2.2%

 

Retail/Wholesale-Office = Supplies

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Membership = Plans

Normal Rate =

Discount = Rate

2 Week Trial = Membership

"Free"

N/A

Monthly = Membership

$19.95

None

6 Month = Membership

$120.00

$89.95

1 Year = Membership

$240.00

$159.95

 

Other than being a satisfied customer, I have = no other affiliation with them.

Gene

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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Ricci" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 31 Mar 2003 08:34:00 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C2F760.478959A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Harold, thanks for sharing your friend's analysis. I took a quick = glance at the numbers and have difficulty with the math. If I use a 10% = trailing stop set on subsequent highs (8% would require a calculator). = I get the following : NUTR 12.79 (high) - 1.28 (10%) =3D 11.51 or gain of 3.28 or = 3.28/8.23(cost) =3D 40% versus 43% ALN 14.98 (high) - 1.49 (10%) =3D 13.49 or gain of 3.79 or = 3.79/9.70(cost) =3D 40% versus -8% KVHI 13.25 (high) - 1.33 (10%) =3D 12.92 or gain of 4.27 or = 4.27/8.65(cost) =3D 50% versus 1% Didn't do the rest of them, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Josephson=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:53 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Hi Tom, =20 Here is a friend's analysis of the Amateur-Investor site: =20 "I looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance. =20 They listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and = one of the stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the others? = They said they use an 8% stop loss on the purchase price. I used a = trailing 8% loss set on subsequent highs. Based on that calculation, the = average gain was 1%, with virtually all of the gain coming from one of = the three winners. =20 The spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more accurate = representation of returns instead of basing it on the highest price over = the past six months." =20 The spreadsheet is attached as a Zip file. I'm merely the messenger. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C2F760.478959A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Harold, thanks for sharing your = friend's=20 analysis. I took a quick glance at the numbers and have difficulty with = the=20 math.  If I use a 10% trailing stop set on subsequent highs (8% = would=20 require a calculator).  I get the following :
 
NUTR  12.79 (high) - 1.28 = (10%) =3D=20 11.51 or gain  of  3.28 or 3.28/8.23(cost) =3D 40% = versus=20 43%
ALN     14.98 = (high) - 1.49=20 (10%) =3D 13.49 or gain of  3.79 or 3.79/9.70(cost) =3D 40% versus=20 -8%
KVHI    13.25 = (high) - 1.33=20 (10%) =3D 12.92 or gain of  4.27 or 4.27/8.65(cost) =3D 50% versus=20 1%
 
Didn't do the rest of = them,
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold=20 Josephson
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 = 11:53=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock = Analysis=20 Sites to Look At

Hi=20 Tom,

 

Here is a = friend=92s=20 analysis of the Amateur-Investor site:

 

=93I=20 looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio=20 performance.

 

They=20 listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and one = of the=20 stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the others? They said=20 they use an 8% stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% = loss set=20 on subsequent highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was = 1%, with=20 virtually all of the gain coming from one of the three=20 winners.

 

The=20 spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more accurate = representation of=20 returns instead of basing it on the highest price over the past six=20 months.=94

 

The = spreadsheet is=20 attached as a Zip file.  = I=92m=20 merely the messenger.

 

------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C2F760.478959A0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 31 Mar 2003 09:07:01 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2F764.E3E76C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks, Gene, I will continue to stick to my old fashioned definitions = instead. I don't pay so much in commissions, and my capital gains taxes = are much easier (and cheaper) to calculate. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:30 PM Tom, I just got a wall hanging from a former buy-hold investor defining = investing time frames: Short Term: Buy and Sell within the hour Intermediate Term: Buy and Sell before Close Long Term: Buy and Hold overnight (Monday through Thursday) Buy-Hold: Buy and Hold over the weekend Have a great week, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in = their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM approach This may be a holdover from the site owner's several years as a day = trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day moving average, = rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be more for = short term trading rather than long term investing. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gene Ricci=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Nancy,=20 Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. = ($13.00 mo). They maintain a database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are = exhibiting characteristics similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy = used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. From these 100 = Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the best looking = Chart Patterns such as "Cup and Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch List. Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy = Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of = each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report which = alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.=20 They have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... check it = out.=20 They also have industry information (partial listing):=20 Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated 3/29/03) = =20 Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score. =20 If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times = which usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0 =20 =20 INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return = YEARLY Previous Years Leaders =20 GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly = Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001 =20 Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% = Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3% =20 Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services = 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7% =20 Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs = Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6% =20 Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial = Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2% =20 Computer-Memory Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory = Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9% =20 Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing = 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9% =20 Medical-Drugs Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks = 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3% =20 Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% = Transportation-Trucking 18.7% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5% =20 Electrical-Lasers Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% = Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3% =20 Commercial Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3% =20 Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers = Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000 =20 Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% = Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55% =20 Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% = Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6% =20 Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% = Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2% =20 Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services = 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10% =20 Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% = Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1% =20 Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT 71% -18% =20 Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber = Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30% =20 Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING 55% -3% =20 Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl = Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY 52% 6% =20 Building-Wood Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% = Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL = 49% 5% =20 Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1% =20 Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly = Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001 =20 Computer-Developmnt & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto = & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS 142% -7% = Computer-Enterprise Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% = Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES 123% 13% =20 Financial-Mortgage Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% = Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & = PRODUCTION 110% -20% =20 Financial-Savings & Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels = Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% =20 Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines = -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32% =20 Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty = -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2% =20 Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations = -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 84% 49% =20 Building-Heavy Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% = Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 79% = 12% =20 Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% = TOBACCO 77% 28% =20 Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% = Retail/Wholesale-Office Supplies=20 Membership Plans Normal Rate Discount Rate=20 2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A=20 Monthly Membership $19.95 None=20 6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95 =20 1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95=20 Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no other affiliation = with them. 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thanks, Gene, I will continue to stick to my old = fashioned=20 definitions instead. I don't pay so much in commissions, and my capital = gains=20 taxes are much easier (and cheaper) to calculate.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look = At

Tom, I just got a wall hanging = from a=20 former buy-hold investor defining investing time frames:
 
Short Term: Buy and Sell within the=20 hour
Intermediate Term: Buy and Sell before = Close
Long Term: Buy and Hold overnight = (Monday=20 through Thursday)
Buy-Hold: Buy and Hold over the=20 weekend
 
Have a great week,
Gene
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 = 7:55=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Stock = Analysis=20 Sites to Look At

Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses = Fibanacci=20 numbers in their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM=20 approach
 
This may be a holdover from the site owner's = several=20 years as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day = moving=20 average, rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be = more for=20 short term trading rather than long term investing.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci =
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look = At

Nancy,=20
 
Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm.  ($13.00 mo).

They maintain a database of 100 Stocks = (updated=20 Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics similar to the=20 "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil = of=20 Investors Business Daily. From these 100 Stocks they pick out the = ones=20 which are exhibiting the best looking Chart Patterns such as = "Cup and=20 Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat = Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch=20 List.

Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch = List includes=20 Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. = Meanwhile at=20 the end of each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout = Report which=20 alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out.

They have a free weekly = email AND a=20 2-week free trial.... check it out.

They also have industry = information (partial=20 listing):

 

Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated = 3/29/03)
Groups Ranked=20 on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score.
If the Table=20 is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which usually = takes care=20 of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0
INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return YEARLY Previous Years Leaders
GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001
Communication-Fiber=20 Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3%
Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7%
Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6%
Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2%
Computer-Memory=20 Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9%
Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9%
Medical-Drugs=20 Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3%
Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% Transportation-Trucking 18.7%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5%
Electrical-Lasers=20 Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3%
Commercial=20 Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3%
Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000
Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55%
Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6%
Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2%
Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10%
Transportation-Heavy=20 Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1%
Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT   71% -18%  
Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30%
Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING         =20 55% -3%
Oil&Gas-Canadian=20 Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY   52% 6%
Building-Wood=20 Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   49% 5%  
Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1%
Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001
Computer-Developmnt=20 & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS       = 142% -7%  
Computer-Enterprise=20 Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES     = 123% 13%
Financial-Mortgage=20 Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% 110% -20%
Financial-Savings &=20 Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19%
Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32%
Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2%
Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   84% 49%
Building-Heavy=20 Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE=20 DRUG/SUPPLIES  = 79% 12%
Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% TOBACCO           &n= bsp;    =20 77% 28%
Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% Retail/Wholesale-Office=20 Supplies
 
 
Membership = Plans Normal Rate = Discount = Rate
2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A
Monthly Membership $19.95 None
6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95
1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95
 
Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no = other=20 affiliation with them.
Gene
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2F764.E3E76C20-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Triffet Subject: [CANSLIM] Anyone else see the general market patterns? Date: 31 Mar 2003 09:21:23 -0800 (PST) Interesting bit of simpleton market trend analysis on my part but here goes: Pull up 6 month charts for the DJ30, NAZ, and the S&P500. Next add 200dma's to each. Now notice the Dec, Jan, and now March tops of each of the last "rallys". Based on these charts alone, I've avoided entering the market this past week as it looked like another top in these bear rallys. Don't know how long this pattern will last but it looks rock solid - lower highs and lower lows at each point. That said, it looks like there has been money to make in each of these periods. I've been looking for a longer term commitment than 1 to 2 months to get back in though... Btw, Hey Tom, looks like EPIQ got a case of the IBD curse. It was shown at the IBD site (free section) as being UP Fri. At least it's still at its base now. -- Bill - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Anyone else see the general market patterns? Date: 31 Mar 2003 09:59:25 -0800 Hi Bill: Actually, it goes back much further than that. Bring up a 3-year weekly chart of the OEX (S&P 100), and you will see that ever since the start of the bear in 2000, every single rally has hit a hard ceiling at the 40-week EMA. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:21 AM > Interesting bit of simpleton market trend analysis on my part but here goes: > > Pull up 6 month charts for the DJ30, NAZ, and the S&P500. Next add 200dma's to each. Now notice the Dec, Jan, and now March tops of each of the last "rallys". Based on these charts alone, I've avoided entering the market this past week as it looked like another top in these bear rallys. Don't know how long this pattern will last but it looks rock solid - lower highs and lower lows at each point. That said, it looks like there has been money to make in each of these periods. I've been looking for a longer term commitment than 1 to 2 months to get back in though... > > > Btw, Hey Tom, looks like EPIQ got a case of the IBD curse. It was shown at the IBD site (free section) as being UP Fri. At least it's still at its base now. > > -- > Bill > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: [CANSLIM] M Date: 31 Mar 2003 13:40:48 -0800 Today marks the 3rd distribution day for the NASDAQ in the last 9 trading days: Wed 19th Thurs 27th Mon 31st That is a lot of selling. Particularly when you consider there has been almost no fear/panic, as measured by the VXN closing at 2 month lows, and declining almost 10% over the last 6 trading days. Quite unusual. I wonder what IBD has to say about it? Ian - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold Josephson" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 31 Mar 2003 13:49:00 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C2F78C.4C023390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gene, Did you have an opportunity to review the spreadsheet? Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gene Ricci Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:34 AM Hi Harold, thanks for sharing your friend's analysis. I took a quick glance at the numbers and have difficulty with the math. If I use a 10% trailing stop set on subsequent highs (8% would require a calculator). I get the following : NUTR 12.79 (high) - 1.28 (10%) = 11.51 or gain of 3.28 or 3.28/8.23(cost) = 40% versus 43% ALN 14.98 (high) - 1.49 (10%) = 13.49 or gain of 3.79 or 3.79/9.70(cost) = 40% versus -8% KVHI 13.25 (high) - 1.33 (10%) = 12.92 or gain of 4.27 or 4.27/8.65(cost) = 50% versus 1% Didn't do the rest of them, Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:53 PM Hi Tom, Here is a friend's analysis of the Amateur-Investor site: "I looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance. They listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and one of the stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the others? They said they use an 8% stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% loss set on subsequent highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was 1%, with virtually all of the gain coming from one of the three winners. The spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more accurate representation of returns instead of basing it on the highest price over the past six months." The spreadsheet is attached as a Zip file. I'm merely the messenger. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C2F78C.4C023390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Gene,

 

Did you have an opportunity to = review the spreadsheet?

 

 

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>] On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: = Monday, March 31, = 2003 6:34 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Stock Analysis Sites to Look At

 

Hi Harold, thanks = for sharing your friend's analysis. I took a quick glance at the numbers and = have difficulty with the math.  If I use a 10% trailing stop set on = subsequent highs (8% would require a calculator).  I get the following = :

 

NUTR  12.79 (high) - 1.28 (10%) =3D 11.51 or gain  of  3.28 = or 3.28/8.23(cost) =3D 40% versus 43%

ALN     14.98 (high) - 1.49 (10%) =3D 13.49 or gain of  3.79 or = 3.79/9.70(cost) =3D 40% versus -8%

KVHI    13.25 (high) - 1.33 (10%) =3D 12.92 or gain of  4.27 or = 4.27/8.65(cost) =3D 50% versus 1%

 

Didn't do the = rest of them,

Gene

 

=

----- Original Message = -----

Sent: Sunday, March 30, = 2003 11:53 PM

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At

 

Hi = Tom,

 =

Here is a = friend’s analysis of the Amateur-Investor site:

 =

“I looked at their late = 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance.

 

They listed only 10 of the = reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and one of the stocks cannot be found. I = wonder what happened to the others? They sa<= font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial Black">id they use an 8% = stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% loss set on subsequent = highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was 1%, with virtually all = of the gain coming from one of the three winners.

 

The spread sheet is attached. I = think this is a more accurate representation of returns instead of basing it = on the highest price over the past six = months.”

 =

The spreadsheet = is attached as a Zip file.  = I’m merely the messenger.

 

------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C2F78C.4C023390-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Triffet Subject: Re: Re: [CANSLIM] Anyone else see the general market patterns? Date: 31 Mar 2003 16:02:33 -0800 (PST) Ian, My time frame has been to look for the past 6-9 months. It makes the bounce look more dramatic to me anyways. My thinking is to maybe "finaly" buy a tiny position of somthing after this next leg down (with a F/T of course) and ride it up just short of the channel top - providing all things hold up. Kind of a "canslim with market limits" approach. -- Bill -------Original Message------- Sent: 03/31/03 09:59 AM > > Hi Bill: Actually, it goes back much further than that. Bring up a 3-year weekly chart of the OEX (S&P 100), and you will see that ever since the start of the bear in 2000, every single rally has hit a hard ceiling at the 40-week EMA. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:21 AM > Interesting bit of simpleton market trend analysis on my part but here goes: > > Pull up 6 month charts for the DJ30, NAZ, and the S&P500. Next add 200dma's to each. Now notice the Dec, Jan, and now March tops of each of the last "rallys". Based on these charts alone, I've avoided entering the market this past week as it looked like another top in these bear rallys. Don't know how long this pattern will last but it looks rock solid - lower highs and lower lows at each point. That said, it looks like there has been money to make in each of these periods. I've been looking for a longer term commitment than 1 to 2 months to get back in though... > > > Btw, Hey Tom, looks like EPIQ got a case of the IBD curse. It was shown at the IBD site (free section) as being UP Fri. At least it's still at its base now. > > -- > Bill > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Anyone else see the general market patterns? Date: 31 Mar 2003 19:32:05 -0500 Bill, we have been seeing these "bear market rallys" for several years now. At least lately, we are not getting lower lows, and the down days appear to mostly be on lighter volume than many of the up days. Thanks for the heads up on EPIQ, I did notice it made one of DGO's lists this weekend, so guess it's not surprising that IBD also noticed it. Today looks like another failed b/o, oh well, easy come, easy go, it's only money. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:21 PM Interesting bit of simpleton market trend analysis on my part but here goes: Pull up 6 month charts for the DJ30, NAZ, and the S&P500. Next add 200dma's to each. Now notice the Dec, Jan, and now March tops of each of the last "rallys". Based on these charts alone, I've avoided entering the market this past week as it looked like another top in these bear rallys. Don't know how long this pattern will last but it looks rock solid - lower highs and lower lows at each point. That said, it looks like there has been money to make in each of these periods. I've been looking for a longer term commitment than 1 to 2 months to get back in though... Btw, Hey Tom, looks like EPIQ got a case of the IBD curse. It was shown at the IBD site (free section) as being UP Fri. At least it's still at its base now. -- Bill - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold Josephson" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At Date: 31 Mar 2003 13:33:42 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2F78A.2C068ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tom, I wasn't sure whether you received this. I received a message from the server saying that it had been disallowed because it was too large with the attached (3 KB) file. So, I placed the file on the FTP site. As I understand it, Jeff will move it to where it can be retrieved and notify us when he has done so. It is called amateur-investor.xls. The file is a tiny Excel spreadsheet reflecting my friend's analysis of the Amateur-Investor site. Here is his commentary. "I looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance. They listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they profiled, and one of the stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the others? They said they use an 8% stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% loss set on subsequent highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was 1%, with virtually all of the gain coming from one of the three winners. The spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more accurate representation of returns instead of basing it on the highest price over the past six months." Best, Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 5:55 AM Just be aware that Amateur Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in their analysis in combination with their WON / CANSLIM approach This may be a holdover from the site owner's several years as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 and 50 day moving average, rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and tends to be more for short term trading rather than long term investing. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:15 PM Nancy, Have you looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm. ($13.00 mo). They maintain a database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. From these 100 Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the best looking Chart Patterns such as "Cup and Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat Bases" which are then listed in their Stocks to Watch List. Every Stock in their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of each trading day we email our members a Daily Breakout Report which alerts investors to those Stocks which are breaking out. They have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... check it out. They also have industry information (partial listing): Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months (Updated 3/29/03) Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with 99 the best score. If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh Button a few times which usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer 6.0 INDUSTRY CURRENT 1 Month 3 Months 6 Months One Week Total Return YEARLY Previous Years Leaders GROUP RANK Ago Ago Ago Change since 1/1/03 Top Yearly Performers (2003) RETURN Top Yearly Performers (2002) 2002 2001 Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 99 99 79 99 3.4% 55.3% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 55.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 105.3% Internet-Services 99 99 99 24 4.1% 19.0% Internet-Services 19.0% Medical-HMO's 29.7% Internet-Retailing 99 95 99 78 -2.0% 13.4% Medical-Drugs Generic 15.7% Banks-West 23.6% Media-Cable/Wireless 98 84 97 4 -1.6% 9.5% Commercial Services-Education 14.3% Banks-Northeast 23.2% Computer-Memory Devices 98 96 83 4 2.4% 13.8% Computer-Memory Devices 13.8% Financial-Savings & Loan 22.9% Computer-Networks 97 70 95 5 -0.3% 13.2% Internet-Retailing 13.4% Consumer-Misc Products 21.9% Medical-Drugs Generic 97 95 96 98 3.9% 15.7% Computer-Networks 13.2% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 21.3% Computer-Medical 96 96 88 74 2.9% 11.0% Computer-Medical 11.0% Transportation-Trucking 18.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 96 99 91 88 3.2% 10.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 10.7% Banks-Southeast 18.5% Electrical-Lasers Systems 95 93 92 11 -1.9% 3.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 10.4% Banks-Midwest 17.3% Commercial Services-Education 95 87 68 98 0.1% 14.3% Computer-Security 94 94 97 14 -1.6% 8.4% Best Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2001) 2001 2000 Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby 94 58 64 79 -1.4% 10.3% Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems 6.6% RETAIL-CONSUMER ELECTRIC 126% -55% Electrical-Semiconductors Mfg 93 59 94 2 -3.9% 3.5% Electrical-Military 5.9% RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO PARTS 117% -6% Transportation-Services 93 93 92 48 -2.4% 3.2% Medical-Hospitals 5.4% LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY 104% -2% Communication-Equipment 92 78 84 7 0.3% 4.7% Internet-Services 4.1% RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE SUPPLIES 87% -10% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 92 97 80 84 3.1% 5.2% Medical-Drugs Generic 3.9% RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS 77% -1% Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg 91 84 77 31 0.5% 5.5% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 3.7% FOOD-MEAT 71% -18% Computer-Graphics 91 79 48 6 0.8% 8.2% Communication-Fiber Optic Equip 3.4% COMMERCIAL SERVICES-SECURITY 57% -30% Banks-Southeast 90 89 62 96 1.0% 7.7% Oil&Gas-Canadian Explo/Prod 3.2% LEISURE-GAMING 55% -3% Oil&Gas-Canadian Integrated 90 97 56 86 3.7% 10.4% Oil&Gas-Intl Specialty 3.2% FOOD-DAIRY 52% 6% Building-Wood Products 89 63 75 16 -3.7% 1.4% Transportation-Heavy Trucks/Parts 3.1% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 49% 5% Machine-Metal 89 92 90 8 -3.1% 0.1% Household-Audio/Video 88 98 91 95 -2.1% 7.9% Worst Weekly Performers Top Yearly Performers (2000) 2000 2001 Computer-Developmnt & Application 88 25 98 3 -1.8% -14.7% Auto & Truck-Replacement Parts -10.7% MEDICAL-HOSPITALS 142% -7% Computer-Enterprise Software 87 80 95 11 -0.4% -1.1% Computer-Computer Mfg -10.5% MEDICAL-SERVICES 123% 13% Financial-Mortgage Services 87 73 53 80 0.3% 7.4% Electrical-Semiconductor Equip -6.0% OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & PRODUCTION 110% -20% Financial-Savings & Loan 86 88 69 93 -0.1% 5.0% Leisure-Hotels Motels -5.8% MEDICAL-GENERIC DRUGS 102% 19% Medical-Drugs 86 72 73 26 2.4% 5.0% Transportation-Airlines -5.7% ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES 98% -32% Communication-Wireless 85 69 84 18 -2.2% 2.3% Steel-Specialty -5.3% MEDICAL-HMO'S 91% -2% Banks-Northeast 85 86 68 97 -0.1% 4.9% Diversified Operations -5.2% BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL 84% 49% Building-Heavy Construction 84 72 40 29 -1.2% 5.5% Retail-Consumer Electric -5.2% MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 79% 12% Banks-West 84 87 71 97 -0.4% 4.1% Retail-Drug Stores -5.0% TOBACCO 77% 28% Insurance-Diversified 83 92 85 22 -4.0% -2.2% Retail/Wholesale-Office Supplies Membership Plans Normal Rate Discount Rate 2 Week Trial Membership "Free" N/A Monthly Membership $19.95 None 6 Month Membership $120.00 $89.95 1 Year Membership $240.00 $159.95 Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no other affiliation with them. Gene ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2F78A.2C068ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Tom,

 

I wasn’t sure whether you = received this.  I received a = message from the server sa<= /st1:PersonName>ying that it had been disallowed because it was too large with the attached (3 KB) file. So, I placed the = file on the FTP site.  As I = understand it, Jeff will move it to where it can be retrieved and notify us when he = has done so. It is called amateur-investor.xls.

 

The file is a tiny Excel = spreadsheet reflecting my friend’s analysis of the Amateur-Investor site.  Here is his = commentary.

 

“I looked at their late 2002 -early 2003 portfolio performance.

 

They listed only 10 of the reported 14 stocks that they = profiled, and one of the stocks cannot be found. I wonder what happened to the = others? They sa<= font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Arial Black">id they use an 8% = stop loss on the purchase price. I used a trailing 8% loss set on subsequent = highs. Based on that calculation, the average gain was 1%, with virtually all = of the gain coming from one of the three winners.

 

The spread sheet is attached. I think this is a more = accurate representation of returns instead of basing it on the highest price over = the past six months.”

 

Best,

 

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
Fax: 323.512.8968
hj@hjosephson.com

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: = Sunday, March 30, = 2003 5:55 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Stock Analysis Sites to Look At

 

Just be aware that Amateur = Investors also uses Fibanacci numbers in their analysis in combination with their = WON / CANSLIM approach

 

This may be a holdover from = the site owner's several years as a day trader. The focus is also more on the 20 = and 50 day moving average, rather than the 50 and 200 dma used by WON, and = tends to be more for short term trading rather than long term = investing.

 

----- Original Message = -----

From: Gene Ricci =

Sent: Saturday, March 29, = 2003 4:15 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM] Stock Analysis Sites to Look At

 

Nancy,

 

Have you = looked at: http://www.amateur-investors.com/index.htm.  ($13.00 mo).

They maintain a = database of 100 Stocks (updated Weekly) which are exhibiting characteristics = similar to the "CANSLIM" Investing Strategy used by William O'Neil of Investors Business Daily. = From these 100 Stocks they pick out the ones which are exhibiting the = best looking Chart Patterns such as "Cup and = Handles", "Double Bottoms" and "Flat Bases" which are then listed in their = Stocks to Watch List.

Every Stock in = their Stocks to Watch List includes Pivot Points (Buy Prices) and specific = Stop Loss Prices as well. Meanwhile at the end of each trading day we email our = members a Daily Breakout Report which alerts investors to those Stocks which are = breaking out.

They = have a free weekly email AND a 2-week free trial.... = check it out.

They also have industry information (partial listing):

 

Industry Group Rankings the past 6 Months = (Updated 3/29/03)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Groups Ranked on a scale from 1 to 99 with = 99 the best score.

 

If the Table is scrambled hit the refresh = Button a few times which usually takes care of the problem in Internet Explorer = 6.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

INDUSTRY

CURRENT

1 Month

3 Months

6 Months

One Week

Total Return

 

 

YEARLY

 

Previous Years = Leaders

 

GROUP

RANK

Ago

Ago

Ago

Change

since 1/1/03

 

Top Yearly Performers = (2003)

RETURN

 

Top Yearly Performers = (2002)

2002

2001

 

Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip

99

99

79

99

3.4%

55.3%

 

Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip

55.3%

 

Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems

105.3%

 

 

Internet-Services

=

99

99

99

24

4.1%

19.0%

 

Internet-Services

=

19.0%

 

Medical-HMO's

29.7%

 

 

Internet-Retailing

99

95

99

78

-2.0%

13.4%

 

Medical-Drugs = Generic

15.7%

 

Banks-West

23.6%

 

 

Media-Cable/Wireless<= /p>

98

84

97

4

-1.6%

9.5%

 

Commercial = Services-Education

14.3%

 

Banks-Northeast

23.2%

 

 

Computer-Memory = Devices

98

96

83

4

2.4%

13.8%

 

Computer-Memory = Devices

13.8%

 

Financial-Savings & = Loan

22.9%

 

 

Computer-Networks

=

97

70

95

5

-0.3%

13.2%

 

Internet-Retailing

13.4%

 

Consumer-Misc = Products

21.9%

 

 

Medical-Drugs = Generic

97

95

96

98

3.9%

15.7%

 

Computer-Networks

=

13.2%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod

21.3%

 

 

Computer-Medical

96

96

88

74

2.9%

11.0%

 

Computer-Medical

11.0%

 

Transportation-Trucking

18.7%

 

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod

96

99

91

88

3.2%

10.7%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod

10.7%

 

Banks-Southeast

18.5%

 

 

Electrical-Lasers = Systems

95

93

92

11

-1.9%

3.5%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated

10.4%

 

Banks-Midwest

17.3%

 

 

Commercial = Services-Education

95

87

68

98

0.1%

14.3%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Computer-Security

=

94

94

97

14

-1.6%

8.4%

 

Best Weekly = Performers

 

 

Top Yearly Performers = (2001)

2001

2000

 

Leisure-Toys/Games/Hobby

94

58

64

79

-1.4%

10.3%

 

Mining-Gold/Silver/Gems

6.6%

 

RETAIL-CONSUMER = ELECTRIC

126%

-55%

 

Electrical-Semiconductors = Mfg

93

59

94

2

-3.9%

3.5%

 

Electrical-Military

5.9%

 

RETAIL/WHOLESALE-AUTO = PARTS

117%

-6%

 

Transportation-Services

93

93

92

48

-2.4%

3.2%

 

Medical-Hospitals

=

5.4%

 

LEISURE-TOYS/GAMES/HOBBY

104%

-2%

 

Communication-Equipment

92

78

84

7

0.3%

4.7%

 

Internet-Services

=

4.1%

 

RETAIL/WHOLESALE OFFICE = SUPPLIES

87%

-10%

 

Transportation-Heavy = Trucks/Parts

92

97

80

84

3.1%

5.2%

 

Medical-Drugs = Generic

3.9%

 

RETAIL-MISCELLANEOUS =

77%

-1%

 

 

 

Oil&Gas-Refining/Mktg

91

84

77

31

0.5%

5.5%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated

3.7%

 

FOOD-MEAT  

71%

-18%

 

 

 

 

Computer-Graphics

=

91

79

48

6

0.8%

8.2%

 

Communication-Fiber Optic = Equip

3.4%

 

COMMERCIAL = SERVICES-SECURITY

57%

-30%

 

 

 

 

Banks-Southeast

90

89

62

96

1.0%

7.7%

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Explo/Prod

3.2%

 

LEISURE-GAMING       &nbs= p; 

55%

-3%

 

 

 

 

Oil&Gas-Canadian = Integrated

90

97

56

86

3.7%

10.4%

 

Oil&Gas-Intl = Specialty

3.2%

 

FOOD-DAIRY   =

52%

6%

 

 

 

 

Building-Wood = Products

89

63

75

16

-3.7%

1.4%

 

Transportation-Heavy = Trucks/Parts

3.1%

 

BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   =

49%

5%

 

 

 

 

Machine-Metal

89

92

90

8

-3.1%

0.1%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Household-Audio/Video=

88

98

91

95

-2.1%

7.9%

 

Worst Weekly = Performers

 

 

Top Yearly Performers = (2000)

2000

2001

 

 

 

 

Computer-Developmnt & = Application

88

25

98

3

-1.8%

-14.7%

 

Auto & Truck-Replacement = Parts

-10.7%

 

MEDICAL-HOSPITALS       =

142%

-7%

 

 

 

 

Computer-Enterprise = Software

87

80

95

11

-0.4%

-1.1%

 

Computer-Computer = Mfg

-10.5%

 

MEDICAL-SERVICES     =

123%

13%

 

 

 

 

Financial-Mortgage = Services

87

73

53

80

0.3%

7.4%

 

Electrical-Semiconductor = Equip

-6.0%

 

OIL&GAS-U S EXPLORATION & = PRODUCTION

110%

-20%

 

 

 

 

Financial-Savings & = Loan

86

88

69

93

-0.1%

5.0%

 

Leisure-Hotels = Motels

-5.8%

 

MEDICAL-GENERIC = DRUGS

102%

19%

 

Medical-Drugs

86

72

73

26

2.4%

5.0%

 

Transportation-Airlines

-5.7%

 

ENERGY-ALTERNATIVES

98%

-32%

 

Communication-Wireless

85

69

84

18

-2.2%

2.3%

 

Steel-Specialty

-5.3%

 

MEDICAL-HMO'S

91%

-2%

 

Banks-Northeast

85

86

68

97

-0.1%

4.9%

 

Diversified = Operations

-5.2%

 

BUILDING-RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL   =

84%

49%

 

Building-Heavy = Construction

84

72

40

29

-1.2%

5.5%

 

Retail-Consumer = Electric

-5.2%

 

MEDICAL-WHOLESALE DRUG/SUPPLIES 

79%

12%

 

Banks-West

84

87

71

97

-0.4%

4.1%

 

Retail-Drug = Stores

-5.0%

 

TOBACCO       &nbs= p;        

77%

28%

 

Insurance-Diversified=

83

92

85

22

-4.0%

-2.2%

 

Retail/Wholesale-Office = Supplies

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Membership = Plans

Normal Rate =

Discount = Rate

2 Week Trial = Membership

"Free"

N/A

Monthly = Membership

$19.95

None

6 Month = Membership

$120.00

$89.95

1 Year = Membership

$240.00

$159.95

 

Other than being a satisfied customer, I have = no other affiliation with them.

Gene

------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2F78A.2C068ED0-- - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold Josephson" Subject: [CANSLIM] Market Timing Date: 31 Mar 2003 20:18:31 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C2F7C2.B8DD4460 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_008D_01C2F7C2.B8DECB00" ------=_NextPart_001_008D_01C2F7C2.B8DECB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please point me toward the market timing package offered by one of the group's subscribers, a former math prof, I think. Thanks. Harold Harold Josephson Tel: 323.850.1333 Fax: 323.512.8968 hj@hjosephson.com ------=_NextPart_001_008D_01C2F7C2.B8DECB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please point me toward the market timing package = offered by one of the group’s subscribers, a former math prof, I = think.

 

Thanks.

 

Harold

 

Harold = Josephson
Tel: 323.850.1333
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