From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #1661 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, September 11 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1661 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America [CANSLIM] Fw: STRATFOR Real-time Analysis: Who is the DFLP? RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:45:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert Gammon" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Neal, I have no problem with punishment of those involved in these attacks. Those responsible and those involved cannot/should not escape. The problem lies with those we saw on TV demonstrating joyfully at the news. Do we punish them also? If we call this WAR, then these people may be part of the enemy's infrastructure. But this is TERROR, and all we an do is pursue those responsible and those involved to the best of our ability, and within the limits of our ability to gather information on them. I live on the same planet with you AND all these people. My question still remains "Once we take care of those responsible/involved, how do we short circuit the development of other groups who may have the desire and who might someday be capable of developing a similar attack?" Contrary to what one person on TV said, if terrorists penetrated the cockpit and killed the flight crew, it is a relatively simple matter to steer the plane into a target the size of the World Trade Center. More skill appears to be needed in the attack on the Pentagon, but should still be within the range of what you could pick up with a few hours of practice on a PC based Flight Simulator. You can navigate to Manhattan and Washington DC by just following the coastline from Boston, Philadelphia, Newark, and lots of other East Coast cities. In this situation, you DON'T need to know how to use the radios, the autopilot, the computers, landing gear, flaps, lights, instruments of any sort. All you need is a clear, sunny day like today, and the resources to carry this off. Finding pilots to do this is not the problem that some may think. P.S. I am not a pilot, I've never had flying lessons. I am an ex-Navy aviation electrician and flew in the cockpit in a few flights. Robert On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:20:13 -0700, Neal Frankle wrote: >Robert, > >I think y ou are missing the point . This is not at all about revenge. It >is about self-defense! > >So...was WW II about revenge? > >What planet are you on? > >Neal > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gammon >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:07 AM >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > >Tom, Neal, > The problem of the moment is that there is/will be a faction >of us that will find it VERY difficult to distinguish between >those reponsible, those involved, and all members of that >ethic/religious group. Revenge is a VERY powerful emotion. > >Robert > >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:40:50 -0400, Tom Worley wrote: > >>Robert, there is a vast difference between genocide, and killing >murderers. >> >>On the one hand, people are killed because of their ethnic >origins, or beliefs, or religion, or whatever. On the other hand, >people who have chosen to kill innocents are taken out of the >equation (killed) because they casually kill innocent civilians >for no better reason than to cause terror. That's not warfare, >that's terrorism and murder, simply put. >> >>Tom Worley >>stkguru@netside.net >>AIM: TexWorley >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Robert Gammon >> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:29 AM >> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America >> >> >> The problem we face with an eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth >> approach, is that a permanent solution appers to lead to >> genocide. As our response level increases, additional zealots >> are drawn in to respond. This can spiral out of control until >> eaither there are no more opponents (genocide them or us) or >one >> side runs out of weapons to fight with. >> >> In the heat of the moment, emotions are HIGH!!! ALL of us will >> cool down and begin to think about the long term effects and >the >> side effects of any potential response to these actions. >> >> Robert >> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:21:00 -0700, Neal Frankle wrote: >> >> >Robert - here is your answer to- "what is needed to reduce >the >> rage" A large >> >bullet between there eyes! These people are people you can't >> deal with. I >> >would hope that, after today - we start to understand - the >type >> of enemy we >> >have. >> > >> >There is a time to make peace and a time to make war. You >can't >> enforce a >> >peace on people who want war. >> > >> >Neal >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >> >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert >> Gammon >> >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 AM >> >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >> >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America >> > >> >I share your concern and resolve. Once the immediate needs >of >> >the survivors are met and the dead are buried, dramatic >reaction >> >is called for. >> > >> >Longer term, we need to ask "what is needed to reduce the >rage, >> >the despair, the hopelessness that leads people to take these >> >sorts of actions - not just in the US, but all around the >> world?" >> > >> >Robert >> > >> >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:46:31 -0400, Tom Worley wrote: >> > >> >>I cannot believe what I am seeing on TV, my military >background >> >raises my ire, this must be answered, once we extricate the >> >survivors, and bury the victims that did not make it. >> >> >> >>The organization of this is apparent, where were all the >> >intelligence agencies? >> >> >> >>Tom Worley >> >>stkguru@netside.net >> >>AIM: TexWorley >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >- >> >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >> >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >> >-"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:43:57 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Fw: STRATFOR Real-time Analysis: Who is the DFLP? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C13ABF.6CC68A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those trying to figure out who is really behind this assault upon = America. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: alert@stratfor.com=20 To: members@stratfor.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: STRATFOR Real-time Analysis: Who is the DFLP? ___________________________________________________________________ S T R A T F O R THE GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE COMPANY http://www.stratfor.com ___________________________________________________________________ 11 September 2001 Who is the DFLP? 1515 GMT, 010911 The Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) has=20 reportedly claimed responsibility for the attacks on the World=20 Trade Center. This report, fromm a television station in Abu=20 Dhabi, in unconfirmed. The DFLP was formed in 1969 with an estimated membership of 500.=20 It was originally based in Syria, but the location of its current=20 headquarters are unknown. The DFLP receives financial and=20 military aid from Syria and Libya. It operates in Syria, Lebanon,=20 Israel and the occupied territories. Its leader is Naif Hawatmeh,=20 according to Israeli-based Interdisciplinary Center. The group was largely dormant from 1988 until this summer, when=20 it claimed responsibility for an Aug. 25 attack against an=20 Israeli military post in the Gaza Strip that left three Israeli=20 soldiers dead. This attack was the first instance of Palestinians=20 successfully using conventional military-style tactics. Before this year, DFLP operations have always taken place either=20 inside Israel or the West Bank and Gaza. Typical acts include=20 minor bombings and grenade attacks, as well as operations to=20 seize hostages and attempts to negotiate the return of Israeli- held Palestinian prisoners.=20 The group split from the Palestinian Front for the Liberation of=20 Palestine (PFLP) years ago, but reconciled with the PFLP - and=20 with Palestinian Authority leader Yasser Arafat - in August 1999.=20 The attacks differ significantly from the DFLP's previous methods=20 of operation. Likewise, the resources and infrastructure=20 necessary for such attacks are far beyond the group's traditional=20 means. Either the DFLP's claims are spurious, or it has joined=20 forces with other groups. _________________________________________________________________ Austin Office =20 700 Lavaca, Suite 405=20 Austin, TX 78701 =20 Phone: 512-744-4300 =20 http://www.stratfor.com/media =20 Understand the globe, with intelligence. 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Who is the DFLP?

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The=20 Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) has =
reportedly=20 claimed responsibility for the attacks on the World
Trade Center. = This=20 report, fromm a television station in Abu
Dhabi, in = unconfirmed.

The=20 DFLP was formed in 1969 with an estimated membership of 500.
It was=20 originally based in Syria, but the location of its current =
headquarters are=20 unknown. The DFLP receives financial and
military aid from Syria and = Libya.=20 It operates in Syria, Lebanon,
Israel and the occupied territories. = Its=20 leader is Naif Hawatmeh,
according to Israeli-based = Interdisciplinary=20 Center.

The group was largely dormant from 1988 until this = summer, when=20
it claimed responsibility for an Aug. 25 attack against an =
Israeli=20 military post in the Gaza Strip that left three Israeli
soldiers = dead. This=20 attack was the first instance of Palestinians
successfully using=20 conventional military-style tactics.

Before this year, DFLP = operations=20 have always taken place either
inside Israel or the West Bank and = Gaza.=20 Typical acts include
minor bombings and grenade attacks, as well as=20 operations to
seize hostages and attempts to negotiate the return of = Israeli-
held Palestinian prisoners.

The group split from the = Palestinian Front for the Liberation of
Palestine (PFLP) years ago, = but=20 reconciled with the PFLP - and
with Palestinian Authority leader = Yasser=20 Arafat - in August 1999.

The attacks differ significantly from = the=20 DFLP's previous methods
of operation. Likewise, the resources and=20 infrastructure
necessary for such attacks are far beyond the group's = traditional
means. Either the DFLP's claims are spurious, or it has = joined=20
forces with other=20 groups.

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- ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C13ABF.6CC68A80-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:01:18 -0700 From: Neal Frankle Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Robert. War is war. The arab terrorist defined the terms of the war they declared on the USA on 9/11/01. IN war, people get hurt. Every government has a responsibility to defend its citizens from harm - especially this. I don't care about the people in the streets celebrating this terrible crime - but it tells me a lot about them - doesn't it say anything to you? So, I don';t care at all what happens to them. Live or die Lets just do whatever it takes to let them know, we won't stand for this. Not today. Not ever Neal - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gammon Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:45 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Neal, I have no problem with punishment of those involved in these attacks. Those responsible and those involved cannot/should not escape. The problem lies with those we saw on TV demonstrating joyfully at the news. Do we punish them also? If we call this WAR, then these people may be part of the enemy's infrastructure. But this is TERROR, and all we an do is pursue those responsible and those involved to the best of our ability, and within the limits of our ability to gather information on them. I live on the same planet with you AND all these people. My question still remains "Once we take care of those responsible/involved, how do we short circuit the development of other groups who may have the desire and who might someday be capable of developing a similar attack?" Contrary to what one person on TV said, if terrorists penetrated the cockpit and killed the flight crew, it is a relatively simple matter to steer the plane into a target the size of the World Trade Center. More skill appears to be needed in the attack on the Pentagon, but should still be within the range of what you could pick up with a few hours of practice on a PC based Flight Simulator. You can navigate to Manhattan and Washington DC by just following the coastline from Boston, Philadelphia, Newark, and lots of other East Coast cities. In this situation, you DON'T need to know how to use the radios, the autopilot, the computers, landing gear, flaps, lights, instruments of any sort. All you need is a clear, sunny day like today, and the resources to carry this off. Finding pilots to do this is not the problem that some may think. P.S. I am not a pilot, I've never had flying lessons. I am an ex-Navy aviation electrician and flew in the cockpit in a few flights. Robert On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:20:13 -0700, Neal Frankle wrote: >Robert, > >I think y ou are missing the point . This is not at all about revenge. It >is about self-defense! > >So...was WW II about revenge? > >What planet are you on? > >Neal > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gammon >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:07 AM >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > >Tom, Neal, > The problem of the moment is that there is/will be a faction >of us that will find it VERY difficult to distinguish between >those reponsible, those involved, and all members of that >ethic/religious group. Revenge is a VERY powerful emotion. > >Robert > >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:40:50 -0400, Tom Worley wrote: > >>Robert, there is a vast difference between genocide, and killing >murderers. >> >>On the one hand, people are killed because of their ethnic >origins, or beliefs, or religion, or whatever. On the other hand, >people who have chosen to kill innocents are taken out of the >equation (killed) because they casually kill innocent civilians >for no better reason than to cause terror. That's not warfare, >that's terrorism and murder, simply put. >> >>Tom Worley >>stkguru@netside.net >>AIM: TexWorley >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Robert Gammon >> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:29 AM >> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America >> >> >> The problem we face with an eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth >> approach, is that a permanent solution appers to lead to >> genocide. As our response level increases, additional zealots >> are drawn in to respond. This can spiral out of control until >> eaither there are no more opponents (genocide them or us) or >one >> side runs out of weapons to fight with. >> >> In the heat of the moment, emotions are HIGH!!! ALL of us will >> cool down and begin to think about the long term effects and >the >> side effects of any potential response to these actions. >> >> Robert >> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:21:00 -0700, Neal Frankle wrote: >> >> >Robert - here is your answer to- "what is needed to reduce >the >> rage" A large >> >bullet between there eyes! These people are people you can't >> deal with. I >> >would hope that, after today - we start to understand - the >type >> of enemy we >> >have. >> > >> >There is a time to make peace and a time to make war. You >can't >> enforce a >> >peace on people who want war. >> > >> >Neal >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >> >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert >> Gammon >> >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 AM >> >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >> >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America >> > >> >I share your concern and resolve. Once the immediate needs >of >> >the survivors are met and the dead are buried, dramatic >reaction >> >is called for. >> > >> >Longer term, we need to ask "what is needed to reduce the >rage, >> >the despair, the hopelessness that leads people to take these >> >sorts of actions - not just in the US, but all around the >> world?" >> > >> >Robert >> > >> >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:46:31 -0400, Tom Worley wrote: >> > >> >>I cannot believe what I am seeing on TV, my military >background >> >raises my ire, this must be answered, once we extricate the >> >survivors, and bury the victims that did not make it. >> >> >> >>The organization of this is apparent, where were all the >> >intelligence agencies? >> >> >> >>Tom Worley >> >>stkguru@netside.net >> >>AIM: TexWorley >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >- >> >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >> >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >> >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. >> > >> > >> >- >> >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >> >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >> >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. >> >> >> >> - >> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >> -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >> -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. >> >> > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:26:17 EDT From: CMencke@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America I'm glad people are reacting the way they are here. I'm in midtown NYC, and all I can think about is who is dead and how many there are. I don't see how anyone could survive that. Also, so many rescue workers were buried in the successive attacks. We've made calls to rescue squads a hundred miles away. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:31:27 EDT From: CMencke@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America To add a bit to your point: I was just reading up on steps people and companies took to protect themselves in future from "random" attacks after the '73 WTC bombing. It's fine to try to guard against "random" attacks. But when they're not random you have to start thinking about being proactive too. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:41:25 -0700 From: "Perry Stanfield" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America CMencke, Our prayers are with you. Perry Washington (state) - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:12:21 +0800 From: Dennis Chia Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Hi Yeah.....caught the footages on CNN and CNBC ... SCARY SHITE MAN!!!!!!!! My condolences to those who lost their lives in this MINDLESS AND SENSELESS ATTACK! :( Hope my good friend living there is ok The murderers behind this must be punished!!! God Bless All Dennis >From Singapore At 09:58 AM 9/11/01 -0500, Robert Gammon wrote: >I share your concern and resolve. Once the immediate needs of >the survivors are met and the dead are buried, dramatic reaction >is called for. > >Longer term, we need to ask "what is needed to reduce the rage, >the despair, the hopelessness that leads people to take these >sorts of actions - not just in the US, but all around the world?" > >Robert > >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:46:31 -0400, Tom Worley wrote: > >>I cannot believe what I am seeing on TV, my military background >raises my ire, this must be answered, once we extricate the >survivors, and bury the victims that did not make it. >> >>The organization of this is apparent, where were all the >intelligence agencies? >> >>Tom Worley >>stkguru@netside.net >>AIM: TexWorley >> >> > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:18:30 -0400 From: Jerry Sparrow Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Totally and utterly destroy the bastards!!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Neal Frankle [mailto:nfrankle@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:21 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Robert - here is your answer to- "what is needed to reduce the rage" A large bullet between there eyes! These people are people you can't deal with. I would hope that, after today - we start to understand - the type of enemy we have. There is a time to make peace and a time to make war. You can't enforce a peace on people who want war. Neal - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gammon Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America I share your concern and resolve. Once the immediate needs of the survivors are met and the dead are buried, dramatic reaction is called for. Longer term, we need to ask "what is needed to reduce the rage, the despair, the hopelessness that leads people to take these sorts of actions - not just in the US, but all around the world?" Robert On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:46:31 -0400, Tom Worley wrote: >I cannot believe what I am seeing on TV, my military background raises my ire, this must be answered, once we extricate the survivors, and bury the victims that did not make it. > >The organization of this is apparent, where were all the intelligence agencies? > >Tom Worley >stkguru@netside.net >AIM: TexWorley > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ************************************************************************************************** The Firelan(tm) Virus Scanning Service has scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content. http://www.firelan.net ************************************************************************************************** - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:23:18 -0700 From: "DiFabio, Nancy" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13ADE.35C2B2EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Finally, the opportunity to eradicate, exterminate those repulsive bastards, all of them. - -----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie [mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:15 AM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Robert, I am a God fearing Christian, and do not condone the eye for and eye mentality. BUT, this was an act of WAR by ungodly people. It was too well planned and the targets well chosen. The World Trade Towers are a prominent symbol of capitalism in the city that is home to the worlds largest financial markets. The Pentagon what else needs to be said. It is clear that these attacks were the work of Arab terrorists. The Palestinians are cheering in the streets (it was on TV). These people consider themselves at war with America and Israel. If we do not respond we will be seen in their eyes as weak. This will only cause them to believe that their attacks were a successes, and inspire them to perpetrate further acts of aggression against American interests. To save American lives these people and their supporters need to know they can't possibly win, and that their losses will always be greater than ours. E - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Gammon [mailto:r.gammon51@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America The problem we face with an eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth approach, is that a permanent solution appers to lead to genocide. As our response level increases, additional zealots are drawn in to respond. This can spiral out of control until eaither there are no more opponents (genocide them or us) or one side runs out of weapons to fight with. In the heat of the moment, emotions are HIGH!!! ALL of us will cool down and begin to think about the long term effects and the side effects of any potential response to these actions. Robert On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:21:00 -0700, Neal Frankle wrote: >Robert - here is your answer to- "what is needed to reduce the rage" A large >bullet between there eyes! These people are people you can't deal with. I >would hope that, after today - we start to understand - the type of enemy we >have. > >There is a time to make peace and a time to make war. You can't enforce a >peace on people who want war. > >Neal > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gammon >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 AM >To: canslim@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > >I share your concern and resolve. Once the immediate needs of >the survivors are met and the dead are buried, dramatic reaction >is called for. > >Longer term, we need to ask "what is needed to reduce the rage, >the despair, the hopelessness that leads people to take these >sorts of actions - not just in the US, but all around the world?" > >Robert > >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:46:31 -0400, Tom Worley wrote: > >>I cannot believe what I am seeing on TV, my military background >raises my ire, this must be answered, once we extricate the >survivors, and bury the victims that did not make it. >> >>The organization of this is apparent, where were all the >intelligence agencies? >> >>Tom Worley >>stkguru@netside.net >>AIM: TexWorley >> >> > > > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". 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Finally, the opportunity to eradicate, exterminate those repulsive bastards, all of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hill, Ernie [mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:15 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America


Robert,

I am a God fearing Christian, and do not condone the eye for and eye
mentality. BUT, this was an act of WAR by ungodly people.

It was too well planned and the targets well chosen. The World Trade Towers
are a prominent symbol of capitalism in the city that is home to the worlds
largest financial markets. The Pentagon what else needs to be said. It is
clear that these attacks were the work of Arab terrorists.

The Palestinians are cheering in the streets (it was on TV). These people
consider themselves at war with America and Israel. If we do not respond we
will be seen in their eyes as weak. This will only cause them to believe
that their attacks were a successes, and inspire them to perpetrate further
acts of aggression against American interests.

To save American lives these people and their supporters need to know they
can't possibly win, and that their losses will always be greater than ours.

E

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Gammon [mailto:r.gammon51@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:30 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America


The problem we face with an eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth
approach, is that a permanent solution appers to lead to
genocide.  As our response level increases, additional zealots
are drawn in to respond.  This can spiral out of control until
eaither there are no more opponents (genocide them or us) or one
side runs out of weapons to fight with.

In the heat of the moment, emotions are HIGH!!! ALL of us will
cool down and begin to think about the long term effects and the
side effects of any potential response to these actions.

Robert

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:21:00 -0700, Neal Frankle wrote:

>Robert - here is your answer to- "what is needed to reduce the
rage" A large
>bullet between there eyes!  These people are people you can't
deal with.  I
>would hope that, after today - we start to understand - the type
of enemy we
>have.
>
>There is a time to make peace and a time to make war.  You can't
enforce a
>peace on people who want war.
>
>Neal
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert
Gammon
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 AM
>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America
>
>I share your concern and resolve.  Once the immediate needs of
>the survivors are met and the dead are buried, dramatic reaction
>is called for.
>
>Longer term, we need to ask "what is needed to reduce the rage,
>the despair, the hopelessness that leads people to take these
>sorts of actions - not just in the US, but all around the
world?"
>
>Robert
>
>On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:46:31 -0400, Tom Worley wrote:
>
>>I cannot believe what I am seeing on TV, my military background
>raises my ire, this must be answered, once we extricate the
>survivors, and bury the victims that did not make it.
>>
>>The organization of this is apparent, where were all the
>intelligence agencies?
>>
>>Tom Worley
>>stkguru@netside.net
>>AIM: TexWorley
>>
>>
>
>
>
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