From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #1664 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Wednesday, September 12 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1664 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] Terrorized?? RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America [CANSLIM] We're Way Behind the Curve Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America [CANSLIM] RE: IT'S WAR! - an apology.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:57:17 -0400 From: Jerry Sparrow Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Hear! Hear! - -----Original Message----- From: Spencer48@aol.com [mailto:Spencer48@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Fanus, you think you are horrified? I was horrified to read the first part of your letter. I couldn't even get passed your Timothy McVeigh reference. How any thinking person could compare the two (foreign terrorisim exported to our shores and the kind of terrorism practiced by Timothy McVeigh and his ilk) is beyond me. The main difference is not just in lives and property lost, but in the strategy conceived and the tactics used. For example, one minor difference is that: MCVEIGH DID NOT BOMB A FOREIGN COUNTRY. When will US citizens get it into their heads that foreign terrorism against the US is not merely a criminal act-it is much more a wartime assault. Our mission should not be to bring the perpetrators to justice in a court of law, but rather to defeat and exterminate our wartime enemies-the terrorists, those who financially support them, and those who harbor them. jans In a message dated 9/12/2001 8:40:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fanus13@yahoo.com writes: << I am just as horrified by the events as everyone else and want nothing less than justice to the people who caused this. But look a little at what you are saying... You want to kill off the government of Afghanistan just because the terrorist who might have planned this might be living there. I mean the guy have to live somewhere and you want to bomb a place just because of this? Should the US government also be bomed because they were "harboring" Timothy McVeigh? >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ************************************************************************************************** The Firelan(tm) Virus Scanning Service has scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content. http://www.firelan.net ************************************************************************************************** - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:06:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert Gammon" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Spenser, So far as terror is concerned, its our reaction to the incident that defines the effectiveness of the incident. The nationality of the terrorist doesn't really matter. We react very similarly to the Ok City bomb as we react to the WTC attack. Yep the magnitude of the two incidents are different. A terrorist is not a nation-state, in spite of the sponsorship of various nation-states. If a Nation-State attacks us, Congress can declare war and the President can direct the Joint Chiefs to execute the war to the best of our capabilities. With a terrorist, we have difficulty locating a logical place to attack with our military forces. A military action such as the action in Iraq a few years ago does not appear to be possible (although elements of that arsenal may be applied to respond to a terrorist attack). Again, if you refuse to get on a plane in the next few days, if you keep your kids home from school this week, if you refuse to go to work, if you cancel vacation plans, YOU are terrorized. The source of your terror is immaterial. Robert - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:25:14 -0700 From: "Shen, Eric" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in World War II. However, I read in the paper that Osama bin Ladan is a wealthy Saudi who is funding the terrorist activities himself like a venture capitalist. We can have the CIA "sponsor" some hackers to hack into his bank and siphon away his assets. This would put a dent in his operations. Eric - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:31:37 -0700 From: Neal Frankle Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Robert, Shut up. We should simply attack the guilty party AND anyone who supports them AND anyone who harbors them. PERIOD> We have to declare war on Terrorism. That means, any state that doesn't outlaw terrorists from its own country become our enemy. Respecting national sovereignty from our standpoint just to allow these pigs safe harbor is stupid and ridiculous. Neal - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gammon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:06 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Spenser, So far as terror is concerned, its our reaction to the incident that defines the effectiveness of the incident. The nationality of the terrorist doesn't really matter. We react very similarly to the Ok City bomb as we react to the WTC attack. Yep the magnitude of the two incidents are different. A terrorist is not a nation-state, in spite of the sponsorship of various nation-states. If a Nation-State attacks us, Congress can declare war and the President can direct the Joint Chiefs to execute the war to the best of our capabilities. With a terrorist, we have difficulty locating a logical place to attack with our military forces. A military action such as the action in Iraq a few years ago does not appear to be possible (although elements of that arsenal may be applied to respond to a terrorist attack). Again, if you refuse to get on a plane in the next few days, if you keep your kids home from school this week, if you refuse to go to work, if you cancel vacation plans, YOU are terrorized. The source of your terror is immaterial. Robert - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:29:11 -0700 From: "Shen, Eric" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Whoops, forgot my train of thought in the first paragraph. It should read: Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in World War II. But here, who can we attack. We don't want to blindly attack a foreign country since some of those folks there were not involved and may be in fact against the attack. A real dilemma. - -----Original Message----- From: Shen, Eric [mailto:eric.shen@intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:25 AM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in World War II. However, I read in the paper that Osama bin Ladan is a wealthy Saudi who is funding the terrorist activities himself like a venture capitalist. We can have the CIA "sponsor" some hackers to hack into his bank and siphon away his assets. This would put a dent in his operations. Eric - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:34:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kent Norman Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Terrorized?? There is a difference in being fearful (terror), and CAUTIOUS. If they did not take precautions and something did happen, then you would be calling them foolish for not seeing a clear danger. Remember the Titanic? Kent Norman > What I do not know is if TI has received a specific > threat > against the facility or against the company in > general. However, > if there is no specific threat, then TI has been > terrorized. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:42:01 -0700 From: Neal Frankle Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America We should stop worrying about political backlash, and stop worrying about being Mr. Nice Guy. And stop turning the other cheek. Lets kick some terrorist ass and show the world we don't accept this crap. This is war. War is not fun or fair. Innocent people get hurt and killed. That's not revenge ...its just reality. Ben Ladin declared war and Afghanistan did too unless they give him up. PERIOD. The only one NOT to understand we are at war in the US. Lets get to work. Neal - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Shen, Eric Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:29 AM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Whoops, forgot my train of thought in the first paragraph. It should read: Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in World War II. But here, who can we attack. We don't want to blindly attack a foreign country since some of those folks there were not involved and may be in fact against the attack. A real dilemma. - -----Original Message----- From: Shen, Eric [mailto:eric.shen@intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:25 AM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in World War II. However, I read in the paper that Osama bin Ladan is a wealthy Saudi who is funding the terrorist activities himself like a venture capitalist. We can have the CIA "sponsor" some hackers to hack into his bank and siphon away his assets. This would put a dent in his operations. Eric - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:38:51 -0500 From: "Hill, Ernie" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Jans, I could not agree with you more. As I stated in my post yesterday this is WAR, and we need to exterminate our enemies. Those who would protect our enemy are themselves also our enemy and must be defeated. This is the only way to eliminate the future threat to our sons and daughters. I suspect those who would expect us to do less, would see things differently if it were their children who were next to be murdered! It breaks my heart every time I think about the poor children who are now fatherless or motherless due to the acts of these ungodly ********. - -----Original Message----- From: Spencer48@aol.com [mailto:Spencer48@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Fanus, you think you are horrified? I was horrified to read the first part of your letter. I couldn't even get passed your Timothy McVeigh reference. How any thinking person could compare the two (foreign terrorisim exported to our shores and the kind of terrorism practiced by Timothy McVeigh and his ilk) is beyond me. The main difference is not just in lives and property lost, but in the strategy conceived and the tactics used. For example, one minor difference is that: MCVEIGH DID NOT BOMB A FOREIGN COUNTRY. When will US citizens get it into their heads that foreign terrorism against the US is not merely a criminal act-it is much more a wartime assault. Our mission should not be to bring the perpetrators to justice in a court of law, but rather to defeat and exterminate our wartime enemies-the terrorists, those who financially support them, and those who harbor them. jans In a message dated 9/12/2001 8:40:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fanus13@yahoo.com writes: << I am just as horrified by the events as everyone else and want nothing less than justice to the people who caused this. But look a little at what you are saying... You want to kill off the government of Afghanistan just because the terrorist who might have planned this might be living there. I mean the guy have to live somewhere and you want to bomb a place just because of this? Should the US government also be bomed because they were "harboring" Timothy McVeigh? >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. ****************************************************************** - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:52:04 +0200 From: "David S. Pinhasik" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America I am so shaken by this I can't concentrate at work. Our tears and prayers are with you, David, Israel - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > I'm glad people are reacting the way they are here. I'm in midtown NYC, and > all I can think about is who is dead and how many there are. I don't see how > anyone could survive that. Also, so many rescue workers were buried in the > successive attacks. We've made calls to rescue squads a hundred miles away. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:00:33 -0400 From: "Dan Forant" Subject: [CANSLIM] We're Way Behind the Curve This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C13B82.86954000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our Government is way behind the curve. The same politico's that are = calling now finally for action on terrorism have been too soft and = silent in the past. We have seen many examples in Israel of terrorism = for years now. How could we think it wouldn't follow us here. We have = valued oil and $$ over human life. Bless those involved in New York, DanF - ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C13B82.86954000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Our Government is way behind the curve. = The same=20 politico's that are calling now finally for action on terrorism have = been too=20 soft and silent in the past. We have seen many examples in Israel of = terrorism=20 for years now. How could we think it wouldn't follow us here. We have = valued oil=20 and $$ over human life.
 
Bless those involved in New = York,
DanF
- ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C13B82.86954000-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:04:57 -0600 From: Warren Keuffel Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Neal Frankle wrote: > Robert, > > Shut up. Everyone: Please, let's maintain a level of civility in this discourse, OK? Let's avoid ad hominem attacks and let's not get personal in discussing this, or any other topic on the list. Thanks. Warren - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:14:44 -0700 From: Neal Frankle Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Too bad you didn't reference my entire message. Neal - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Warren Keuffel Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:05 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Neal Frankle wrote: > Robert, > > Shut up. Everyone: Please, let's maintain a level of civility in this discourse, OK? Let's avoid ad hominem attacks and let's not get personal in discussing this, or any other topic on the list. Thanks. Warren - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:38:10 -0700 From: "Ian" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America Yeah ... that way the CIA can get their money back too. Don't forget that they are the ones who bankrolled the guy in his insurgency against the soviets. He was also allegedly funding the KLA in Kosovo, whom the US and the UN subsequently provided air support to. A very ignomious history for the CIA. Bin Laden now has training camps all over Afghanistan teaching young militants from all over the Islamic world how to carry out jihad against the USA. I think the only way to seriously impair them now would be to gain enough control in Afghanistan that they can permanently close down these centres. They would then have to be closely monitored as they moved to other militant countires (Sudan?, Pakistan?). This is going to require a sustained, world-wide, and PERMANENT military/intelligence effort. I hope it happens. Ian - ----- Original Message ----- From: Neal Frankle To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > We should stop worrying about political backlash, and stop worrying about > being Mr. Nice Guy. And stop turning the other cheek. > > Lets kick some terrorist ass and show the world we don't accept this crap. > This is war. War is not fun or fair. Innocent people get hurt and killed. > That's not revenge ...its just reality. > > Ben Ladin declared war and Afghanistan did too unless they give him up. > PERIOD. The only one NOT to understand we are at war in the US. Lets get > to work. > > Neal > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Shen, Eric > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:29 AM > To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > > > Whoops, forgot my train of thought in the first paragraph. > It should read: > > Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. > We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in > World War II. But here, who can we attack. We don't want to > blindly attack a foreign country since some of those folks there > were not involved and may be in fact against the attack. A > real dilemma. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shen, Eric [mailto:eric.shen@intel.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:25 AM > To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > > > > Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. > We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in > World War II. > > However, I read in the paper that Osama bin Ladan is a wealthy > Saudi who is funding the terrorist activities himself like a > venture capitalist. We can have the CIA "sponsor" some hackers > to hack into his bank and siphon away his assets. This would put > a dent in his operations. > > Eric > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:23:29 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America That's it for me. I am unsubscribing. I'll check back in a few weeks to see whether you idiots are talking CANSLIM again. On 02:25 PM 9/11/01, Fanus Said: >I am just as horrified by the events as everyone else >and want nothing less than justice to the people who >caused this. But look a little at what you are >saying... > >You want to kill off the government of Afghanistan >just because the terrorist who might have planned this >might be living there. I mean the guy have to live >somewhere and you want to bomb a place just because of >this? Should the US government also be bomed because >they were "harboring" Timothy McVeigh? How do you >think the best way of bombing the people who >celebrate in the streets would be? Or doesn't it >matter? Should the US just bomb the whole area there >regardless of who celebrated and who not? Regardless >of the fact there might be innocent people and >children who do not even know what is happening? > >If it take three years for the terrorists to come to >justice then so be it. This is how the US justice >system work and we should be happy that it guarantee >everyone a fair trial. There cannot be expections, it >cannot be subjective and cannot be tweaked to fit our >emotions, otherwise we will be just as bad as the >people doing the bombing. > >The justice you propose for the US to go on a bombing >spree and kill everyone who might, or might not have >been involved will make the US no better than the >terrorists they try to wipe out. This will mean the >terrorists won, as they would have pulled the US down >to their level. > >I am not trying to defend the people who did this. I >believe they should brought to justice and suffer the >ultimate penalty, but this should be done in a >civilized way which will make all people in America >proud. > >Instead of just wanting revenge, I propose we should >go on our knees and be thankful for what the US stand >for, that we can live in a country like this and pray >for the people whose lives changed this morning >forever and the rescue workers, doctors and nurses >there, trying their best to help and undoubtly are >going to work through the next few days and nights >without consideration for themselves. > >- Fanus > >--- Dave wrote: > > > Totally and utterly destroy the bastards!!!!! > > > > Anything less would be an insult to this great > > country. Bomb them all. > > Start with the entire government of Afghanistan for > > harboring the only > > terrorist who could possibly have pulled this off. > > Then each and every > > terrorist group, whether or not they were involved > > in this attack. And > > even those who celebrate in the streets. Why should > > they be spared? Maybe > > George W. is crazy enough to finally do it right, > > unlike his father who > > for whatever reason failed to finish the job in > > Iraq. > > > > Or we could just spend 3 years and lots of money > > tracking down the 6 low > > ranking terrorists who were "directly" responsible > > for this, then another > > 3 years and lots more money to give them a fair > > trial, then lots more > > money to imprison them for life, then watch in > > horror as more horrific > > terrorist attacks are perpetrated on us. Yeah, > > that's justice. > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your >email. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger >http://im.yahoo.com > >- >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. Tim Fisher Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites Tim@OreRockOn.com WWW: http://OreRockOn.com See naked fish and rocks! - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:39:17 -0400 From: "Dan Forant" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America We have definitely sowed some of the seeds for this disaster. Our government has to be completely honest in it's investigation of this mess. Many heads should roll. DanF - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > Yeah ... that way the CIA can get their money back too. Don't forget that > they are the ones who bankrolled the guy in his insurgency against the > soviets. He was also allegedly funding the KLA in Kosovo, whom the US and > the UN subsequently provided air support to. A very ignomious history for > the CIA. > > Bin Laden now has training camps all over Afghanistan teaching young > militants from all over the Islamic world how to carry out jihad against the > USA. > > I think the only way to seriously impair them now would be to gain enough > control in Afghanistan that they can permanently close down these centres. > They would then have to be closely monitored as they moved to other militant > countires (Sudan?, Pakistan?). This is going to require a sustained, > world-wide, and PERMANENT military/intelligence effort. > > I hope it happens. > > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Neal Frankle > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:42 AM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > > > > We should stop worrying about political backlash, and stop worrying about > > being Mr. Nice Guy. And stop turning the other cheek. > > > > Lets kick some terrorist ass and show the world we don't accept this crap. > > This is war. War is not fun or fair. Innocent people get hurt and > killed. > > That's not revenge ...its just reality. > > > > Ben Ladin declared war and Afghanistan did too unless they give him up. > > PERIOD. The only one NOT to understand we are at war in the US. Lets get > > to work. > > > > Neal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Shen, Eric > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:29 AM > > To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > > > > > > Whoops, forgot my train of thought in the first paragraph. > > It should read: > > > > Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. > > We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in > > World War II. But here, who can we attack. We don't want to > > blindly attack a foreign country since some of those folks there > > were not involved and may be in fact against the attack. A > > real dilemma. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shen, Eric [mailto:eric.shen@intel.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:25 AM > > To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America > > > > > > > > Reading through the thread, I also feel a sense of helpnessness. > > We can go ahead have people sign up to attack country X like in > > World War II. > > > > However, I read in the paper that Osama bin Ladan is a wealthy > > Saudi who is funding the terrorist activities himself like a > > venture capitalist. We can have the CIA "sponsor" some hackers > > to hack into his bank and siphon away his assets. This would put > > a dent in his operations. > > > > Eric > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:35:01 -0600 From: "Paul Lewis" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] what an horrific assault on America This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13B98.1AC46483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's help the bastards out by sending every one of them off to Paradise, then. =20 - -Paul Lewis All these suicide bombers believe that they go straight to heaven after killing Jews, Christians or any other non-Muslim infidels. Danny, in Jerusalem - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13B98.1AC46483 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Let's help the bastards out by sending = every one of=20 them off to Paradise, then.
 
-Paul Lewis
   =20 All these suicide bombers believe that they go straight to heaven=20 after
killing Jews, Christians
or any other non-Muslim=20 = infidels.
          =      =20 Danny, in Jerusalem
- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13B98.1AC46483-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:19:00 -0400 From: "Feltman, Linda" Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: IT'S WAR! - an apology.... This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13BA6.A1C162E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My apologies to this email list. I received the reply below from one of you and the writer is absolutely correct in her comments. My reply to her is below. I wrote rashly and did not carefully think about the wording on my last sentence. The intent was certainly not as it read. Not even close. Perhaps the events of the last couple days have reinforced to all of us how fragile and unpredictable life is and how important it is to reach out to each other in whatever way possible. I know many friends have given blood, attended prayer vigils and found other ways to make a difference. We all feel so helpless and the challenge is to find a way to help. Donating time or money to organizations such as Red Cross or United Way is one way. Here is a cut and paste of an email I received regarding the contact info for the UW that has set up a Sept 11 fund, should anyone be interested in contributing: "The United Way of New York. The September Eleventh Fund will provide immediate support to established emergency assistance agencies. Anyone wishing to contribute may send their donations in care of United Way, 2 Park Ave, New York, New York, 10016 or call: 212-251-4035.Donations are also being accepted on United Way of New York City's Web site: http://www.uwnyc.org. Rational, deliberate and powerful action? As we've done so many times over the past twenty years? Justice as in life sentences for the criminals? As far as your statement that "Right now two women I work with are stranded in Dallas, and but for the grace of God, I would be there as well, trying to figure out how to get home". Shame on you! How many people have died? Have you even watched the tragedy unfold on TV? You're absolutely right that my last sentence was very poorly worded. I meant to take nothing away from the horrific tragedy. My only intent, which I conveyed very inadequately, was to somehow point out that nearly everyone in this country, unlike so many other tragedies in the past, has been more directly effected in their own personal lives, by this whether or not they lost loved ones. Certainly OK was awful. And certainly with the riveting TV coverage I cannot imagine anyone not being effected. I regret the way that last sentence was worded. I apologize if I offended you. Again I only intended to emphasize that all of us have been effected in some way by this....and I am hoping that if Bush declares war on we don't know who yet, that the repercussions of doing so are extremely well thought out. Again, I'm sorry. But I honestly don't know where that email came from and I felt, wrong or right, a need to reply to the entire list. lcf - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13BA6.A1C162E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
My apologies to this email list.  I received the reply below from one of you and the writer is absolutely correct in her comments.  My reply to her is below.  I wrote rashly and did not carefully think about the wording on my last sentence.  The intent  was certainly not as it read.  Not even close.  
Perhaps the events of the last couple days have reinforced to all of us how fragile and unpredictable life is and how important it is to reach out to each other in whatever way possible.  I know many friends have given blood, attended prayer vigils and found other ways to make a difference.  We all feel so helpless and the challenge is to find a way to help.  Donating time or money to organizations such as Red Cross or United Way is one way.  Here is a cut and paste of an email I received regarding  the contact info for the UW that has set up a Sept 11 fund, should anyone be interested in contributing:  "The United Way of New York. The September Eleventh Fund will provide immediate support to established emergency assistance agencies. Anyone wishing to contribute may send their donations in care of United Way, 2 Park Ave, New York, New York, 10016 or call: 212-251-4035.Donations are also being accepted on United Way of New York City's Web site: http://www.uwnyc.org.  
 
Rational, deliberate and powerful action?  As we've done so many times over the past twenty years?  Justice as in life sentences for the criminals? As far as your statement that  "Right now two women I work with are stranded in Dallas, and but for the grace of God, I would be there as well, trying to figure out how to get home".  Shame on you!  How many people have died?  Have you even watched the tragedy unfold on TV? 
 
 You're absolutely right that my last sentence was very poorly worded. I  meant to take nothing away from the horrific tragedy.  My only intent, which I conveyed very inadequately, was to somehow point out that nearly everyone in this country, unlike so many other tragedies in the past, has been more directly effected in their own personal lives, by this whether or not  they lost loved ones.  Certainly OK was awful. And certainly with the riveting TV coverage I cannot imagine anyone not being effected.  I regret the way that last sentence was worded.  I apologize if I offended you.  Again I only intended to emphasize that all of us have been effected in some way by this....and I am hoping that if Bush declares war on we don't know who yet, that the repercussions of doing so are extremely well thought out.  Again, I'm sorry.  But I honestly don't know where that email came from and I felt, wrong or right, a need to reply to the entire list.  lcf
 
 
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