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canslim-digest        Sunday, October 7 2001        Volume 02 : Number 1714



In this issue:

       Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data
       Re: OFF TOPIC   Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
       Re: OFF TOPIC   Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
       Re: OFF TOPIC   Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
       Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data
       Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data
       Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data
       [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:01:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kent Norman <kent_norman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data

Jay

Perhaps you should alert the FTC and your attorney
general? Perhaps there may be basis for a class
action?

Kent

- --- Jay Oken <imjoken@mindspring.com> wrote:

<snip>

> On July 18, 2001 I received an e-mail stating that
> my refund would be adjusted to include the $52.85. I
> can only wonder how many other people did not have
> appropriate refunds credited to them and what the
> total benefit has been to DGO based on the number of
> cancelled subscriptions.
> 


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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:13:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kent Norman <kent_norman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC   Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV

There you go again Tom, 
Infringing on those copyrighted "closing numbers"...

Perhaps you could use "end of day"  .... oops
"closing data"  .... oops
"final data"  .... oops
"final prices"  .... oops
"close"  .... oops

Cynical
Kent Norman


- --- Tom Worley <stkguru@netside.net> wrote:
> Hi Ann,
> 
> I usually look at the closing numbers rather than
> the intraday highs. On that basis, the change is
> only 2.3%, to me that is insignificant.
> 
> Since most services use closing numbers for their
> historic data, I find that this smoothes out the
> intraday volatility and spikes.
> 
> Tom Worley
> stkguru@netside.net
> AIM: TexWorley
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Ann 
>   To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
>   Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
> 
> 
>   I see a handle starting on 9/28 (26.88 high) and
> going to today  (high 27.90). Or is that difference
> not enough to qualify as sloping upward?
>   Ann
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Tom Worley 
>     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
>     Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:53 PM
>     Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
> 
> 
>     Hi Ann,
> 
>     I don't see an "upward sloping" handle, but I do
> see a high handle forming over the past week. This
> market has been so beaten down in the past 18 or so
> months that a lot of rules will be broken now that
> we have not one, but two, very strong FT days. It
> will be very difficult to find buyable bases for
> some time, I suspect.
> 
>     While a high handle is more prone to failure, it
> doesn't mean it can't work out profitably. More
> risk, but the rewards can still be there, especially
> when the fundies are so strong.
> 
>     Tom Worley
>     stkguru@netside.net
>     AIM: TexWorley
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: Ann 
>       To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
>       Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:39 PM
>       Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
> 
> 
>       Isn't CYTC forming an upward sloping handle,
> and isn't that undesirable? I've been watching it,
> too.
> 
>       Ann
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: Tom Worley 
>         To: CANSLIM 
>         Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:20 PM
>         Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
> 
> 
>         Hi Stephanie,
> 
>         One member previously suggested the problem
> is the image is minimized. Try maximizing it and see
> if that will display the ADV. I had a similar
> problem with DGO, and found I had to change the
> pixel settings in order to see all of the detail.
> 
>         Don't know if you noticed, but ILUM has a
> merger offer on the table.
> 
>         CYTC looks interesting. Has a strong
> earnings forecast for the year (up 39%), and thru
> the first six months was well ahead of achieving the
> target earnings for the year. Revenues growing
> faster than is showing in the earnings, so they
> could be on track to beat a healthy earnings growth.
> And volume is drying up right now.
> 
>         KG also looks interesting, but not as strong
> as CYTC.
> 
>         On FHRX, there's never anything wrong with
> some healthy fear. Better that than to be confident,
> cocky and complacent. It is trading at very rich
> premiums, trailing PE of 89 and despite the 139%
> earnings growth forecast for this year even the
> projected PE is very high at 69. And the market cap
> to sales ratio is over 13. But might still be worth
> watching for a second entry. And, of course, there's
> never anything wrong in taking a profit, especially
> in this market.
> 
>         Tom Worley
>         stkguru@netside.net
>         AIM: TexWorley
> 
>           ----- Original Message ----- 
>           From: Stephanie Chicko 
>           To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
>           Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:58 AM
>           Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC Re: [CANSLIM] ibd
> ADV
> 
> 
>           Hey Ann,
>           I never see the ADV on the ibd screen.  It
> appears when I print the chart.
>           Go Figure?  My watches are few at the
> time: Missed ILUM (Boo) and MDCI
>           Watching CYTC, KG(which isn't close yet
> but like the numbers) Bought FHRX
>           but got scared(What can I say) and sold it
> with a little profit. Oh yeah
>           also traded CSCO(Non-canslim) We needed
> money to go to Las Vegas :)
>           Planning on doing some serious research
> this weekend.
>           Steff
> 
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: "Ann" <annholly@mediaone.net>
>           To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>           Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:55 PM
>           Subject: OFF TOPIC Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
> 
> 
>           > Jans, Norman,
>           > Thanks for the feedback. I'll contact
> ibd.
>           > ----- Original Message -----
>           > From: <Spencer48@aol.com>
>           > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>           > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:52 PM
>           > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
>           >
>           >
>           > : Ann:
>           > :
>           > :      I just called up CPRT on IBD's
> page, and it shows the ADV (avergage
>           > : daily volume) where you said it
> should- at the top right of the chart.
>           > I'm
>           > : not certain what you mean by your last
> sentence concerning "9/11".
>           > :                                       
>             jans
>           > :
>           > :
>           > :
>           > :
>           > : In a message dated 10/4/2001 8:46:38
> PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>           > : annholly@mediaone.net writes:
>           > :
>           > : << Does anyone know why ibd no longer
> has the ADV in the upper right
>           > corner of
>           > :  the daily charts? Has it been since
> 9/11? >>
>           > 
> 

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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:15:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kent Norman <kent_norman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC   Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV

Careful Ann
Everyone knows that word "handle" was invented by WON.

Kent
- --- Ann <annholly@mediaone.net> wrote:
> I see a handle starting on 9/28 (26.88 high) and
> going to today  (high 27.90). Or is that difference
> not enough to qualify as sloping upward?
> Ann
>   ----- Original Message ----- 


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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:38:59 EDT
From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC   Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV

Tom:

     CYTC could be developing into a base on a base (WON's HTMMS, Page 
158-159). While he doesn't mention this, I believe the RS line would display 
(ie. whether it is strong or weak) whether or not such a base-on-base stock 
is worth a 2nd look.

jans (Tom, watch out for flying DG debris. It's amazing-you've been doing 
your list for as long as I can remember.  But only now do they object.  Too 
bad there is not  a legal concept-similar to easement concerning real 
property-for intellectual property.)


In a message dated 10/5/2001 9:57:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
stkguru@netside.net writes:

<< Hi Ann,
 
 I don't see an "upward sloping" handle, but I do see a high handle forming 
over the past week. This market has been so beaten down in the past 18 or so 
months that a lot of rules will be broken now that we have not one, but two, 
very strong FT days. It will be very difficult to find buyable bases for some 
time, I suspect.
 
 While a high handle is more prone to failure, it doesn't mean it can't work 
out profitably. More risk, but the rewards can still be there, especially 
when the fundies are so strong.
 
 Tom Worley
 stkguru@netside.net
 AIM: TexWorley
 
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: Ann 
   To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
   Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:39 PM
   Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC Re: [CANSLIM] ibd ADV
 
 
   Isn't CYTC forming an upward sloping handle, and isn't that undesirable? 
I've been watching it, too.
 
   Ann >>

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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:50:58 EDT
From: Spencer48@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data

Dan:

     I like IBD and DG-online.  The CANSLIM analyses and the data that they 
use is top drawer, in my opinion.  The way they evaluate stocks is 
self-evidently superior-at least by those who follow CANSLIM.  Otherwise, why 
even be in this group?

     What is slimy is that a DG lawyer (out of the blue) FedX's Tom with a 
legal warning.  DG and IBD portray themselves as being for the investor.  
That is a laugh-at least it certainly deserves a horselaugh now.   

     I guess DG has now contracted the "Boesky Contagion":  Each is as sick 
as the other.  And I suppose nowadays instead of calling a doctor to cure 
you, you scream for a lawyer in order that everyone can become as miserable.  

     DG, and your endearing lawyer, "Consider yourselves a success"!

jans


     

In a message dated 10/5/2001 10:03:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dforant1@nycap.rr.com writes:

<< Tom
 
 You should know not to play where the big dogs eat. Someone more than likely 
turned you in. I appreciated what you were doing and the loyalty to this 
group. To those from DGO and IBD monitoring this group,  I like TC2000, and 
your paper is not worth $1.25 on the newsstand, and certainly not worth the 
subscription price.
 
 DanF >>

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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 03:40:45 -0400
From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@netside.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data

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But what would I do then if Chrysler or Dupont should make the list?
=20
Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM: TexWorley

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kent Norman=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 9:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data


  Perhaps reversing the letters in the stock symbol
  would satisfy them :-)

  Kent

  <snip>
  > For example, the posting
  > contains the same titles for each category of data,
  > also the abbreviations and figures for each stock
  > are identical to those found in the Work".
  > Naturally, this is true since I delete from the
  > downloaded spread sheet those rows for stocks I did
  > not find worthy of mention, leaving the remaining
  > data unchanged. Maybe if I deleted some of the
  > lesser important columns, and changed the column
  > headings on the rest, and used different stock
  > symbols (didn't know they were copyrighted by DGO,
  > did you? Wonder if the exchanges have to pay them to
  > use the symbols?), they would be happy?
  >=20
  >

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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 03:46:47 -0400
From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@netside.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data

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Wouldn't work, Kent, they couldn't pay me enough for that. The only way =
they could hire me would be as a stock picker or a columnist, and I =
would insist on a clause to be allowed to give this group for free what =
they would be paying me for.

Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM: TexWorley

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kent Norman=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my posting DGO Data


  Tom

  One way for IBD/DGO to buy your silence would be to
  hire you and make you sign a non disclosure agreement.

  They get what they want. You get paid for your service
  to them (error correction and software tester). The
  group would miss out-- but what do they care...

  Regards
  Kent Norman


  --- Tom Worley <stkguru@netside.net> wrote:
  > Hi Ernie,
  >=20
  > That was part of their heavy handedness that upset
  > me so. I have been an avid supporter of DGO, a
  > simple email would have been sufficient. I think the
  > service is good, to the degree that it presents a
  > comprehensive amount of data on a single security.
  > But if I got a buck for every time I have pointed
  > out errors in their data, I would be entitled to a
  > free year just from that. It's not like I haven't
  > helped them, especially during their original beta
  > period before going commercial.=20
  >=20
  > Only way I see for DGO to repair the PR harm done is
  > for WON to be available weekly for an online chat.
  > Let us hear from the boss, and ask him the questions
  > directly that we presently wait for the monitors to
  > give to IBD to write an article about.
  >=20
  > I must admit, I would like to be a fly on the wall
  > in the DGO offices on Monday.
  >=20
  > Tom Worley
  > stkguru@netside.net
  > AIM: TexWorley
  >=20
  >   ----- Original Message -----=20
  >   From: Hill, Ernie=20
  >   To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
  >   Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 12:08 AM
  >   Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my
  > posting DGO Data
  >=20
  >=20
  >   Hi Tom,
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   Very foolish move by dgo!
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   Perhaps they should read the archives, and they
  > would see that you have provided very good
  > advertising for them. If anything they should be
  > paying you, or providing you with a free
  > subscription. Instead they have likely alienated the
  > majority of the people on this list. I don't know
  > what kind of degree if any Ms. McKnight may have,
  > but if her degree is in marketing she should ask for
  > a refund of her tuition.
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   E
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@netside.net]
  >   Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:57 PM
  >   To: DGOnline Customer Service; CANSLIM
  >   Subject: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of my
  > posting DGO Data
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   To: Ms. Susan McKnight, President, Daily Graphs
  > Online
  >=20
  >       CANSLIM Discussion Group Members
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   I was served with legal notice this morning that I
  > was in violation of my agreement with DGO by posting
  > the data on those stocks I had listed in my DGO List
  > last Saturday. I was warned that not only could my
  > service be discontinued, but I could be legally
  > prosecuted for unauthorized use. I will, of course,
  > cease and desist from my well intended practice.
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   I felt then, and still feel now, that what I did
  > was posting intellectual property I had developed. I
  > did not post the entire DGO List, rather only those
  > stocks that I had reviewed and found worthy of
  > mention.  Obviously, Ms. McKnight and her corporate
  > counsel feel differently.
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   I would also note that despite my frequent and
  > strong support of DGO in this discussion group, I
  > have never once received a thank you from DGO. I
  > cooperated with a reporter from IBD, who had sought
  > interviews from members of this group. I don't know
  > if she ever posted the article as I never heard back
  > from her once she got her information. I also note
  > that there have been numerous instances in which an
  > article appeared in IBD shortly after similar
  > discussions in this group. Not once was this group
  > credited or acknowledged as providing the topic or
  > idea for the article. To me that is theft of
  > intellectual property, and used for commercial
  > purposes to boot. Maybe Jeff Salisbury needs to put
  > a copyright on this group's discussions, and demand
  > payment when they steal our ideas.
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   This legal notice I received again confirms to me
  > that this group is being monitored covertly by DGO,
  > and likely by IBD as well. I guess that is some kind
  > of back handed compliment, in a way, but I don't
  > like the sneaky approach.
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   The most upsetting part of this for me is getting
  > this notice in a morning delivery by Fedex when a
  > simple email would have sufficed. It's not like they
  > don't have my email address, after all. Granted, it
  > might not have the same legal standing, but I also
  > don't need to be hit in the head with a baseball
  > bat. And here I was thinking they had finally
  > recognized my ability to make good money even in a
  > solid bear market (BTW, my VR fund is up over 15% in
  > the past six trading days, and continues to beat
  > every major index, but I'm not giving the list of
  > stocks to DGO or IBD).
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   Unless Ms. McKnight further objects, I intend to
  > continue reviewing the entire DGO List, and posting
  > my thoughts and observations. Hopefully I can at
  > least continue that service to this group. But with
  > this "one way" policy so directly demonstrated,
  > along with the continued failure of DGO to provide
  > even minimal screening tools in the latest beta
  > version, and the continuing limitation of reports to
  > just those stocks in the DG books rather than all
  > stocks, I will not make further recommendations to
  > members to buy this service and will look for
  > alternative means to achieve the same results.
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   Sincerely,
  >=20
  >   =20
  >=20
  >   Tom Worley
  >   stkguru@netside.net
  >   AIM: TexWorley
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Wouldn't work, Kent, they couldn't pay me enough for =
that. The=20
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and I=20
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<DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:kent_norman@yahoo.com" =
title=3Dkent_norman@yahoo.com>Kent=20
  Norman</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com"=20
  title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com>canslim@lists.xmission.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 06, =
2001 9:42=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] OT: =
Discontinuance=20
  of my posting DGO Data</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Tom<BR><BR>One way for IBD/DGO to buy your silence =
would be=20
  to<BR>hire you and make you sign a non disclosure =
agreement.<BR><BR>They get=20
  what they want. You get paid for your service<BR>to them (error =
correction and=20
  software tester). The<BR>group would miss out-- but what do they=20
  care...<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Kent Norman<BR><BR><BR>--- Tom Worley &lt;<A =

  href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
  Hi Ernie,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; That was part of their heavy handedness =
that=20
  upset<BR>&gt; me so. I have been an avid supporter of DGO, a<BR>&gt; =
simple=20
  email would have been sufficient. I think the<BR>&gt; service is good, =
to the=20
  degree that it presents a<BR>&gt; comprehensive amount of data on a =
single=20
  security.<BR>&gt; But if I got a buck for every time I have =
pointed<BR>&gt;=20
  out errors in their data, I would be entitled to a<BR>&gt; free year =
just from=20
  that. It's not like I haven't<BR>&gt; helped them, especially during =
their=20
  original beta<BR>&gt; period before going commercial. <BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; Only=20
  way I see for DGO to repair the PR harm done is<BR>&gt; for WON to be=20
  available weekly for an online chat.<BR>&gt; Let us hear from the =
boss, and=20
  ask him the questions<BR>&gt; directly that we presently wait for the =
monitors=20
  to<BR>&gt; give to IBD to write an article about.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I =
must=20
  admit, I would like to be a fly on the wall<BR>&gt; in the DGO offices =
on=20
  Monday.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Tom Worley<BR>&gt; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>&gt; =
AIM:=20
  TexWorley<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Original Message -----=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Hill, Ernie <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 12:08=20
  AM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] OT: Discontinuance of =
my<BR>&gt;=20
  posting DGO Data<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi Tom,<BR>&gt; =

  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Very foolish =
move by=20
  dgo!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Perhaps=20
  they should read the archives, and they<BR>&gt; would see that you =
have=20
  provided very good<BR>&gt; advertising for them. If anything they =
should=20
  be<BR>&gt; paying you, or providing you with a free<BR>&gt; =
subscription.=20
  Instead they have likely alienated the<BR>&gt; majority of the people =
on this=20
  list. I don't know<BR>&gt; what kind of degree if any Ms. McKnight may =

  have,<BR>&gt; but if her degree is in marketing she should ask =
for<BR>&gt; a=20
  refund of her tuition.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; E<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
From: Tom=20
  Worley [<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">mailto:stkguru@netside.net</A>]<BR>&g=
t;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:57 PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: =
DGOnline=20
  Customer Service; CANSLIM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: [CANSLIM] OT:=20
  Discontinuance of my<BR>&gt; posting DGO Data<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: Ms. Susan =

  McKnight, President, Daily Graphs<BR>&gt; Online<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CANSLIM Discussion Group=20
  Members<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was=20
  served with legal notice this morning that I<BR>&gt; was in violation =
of my=20
  agreement with DGO by posting<BR>&gt; the data on those stocks I had =
listed in=20
  my DGO List<BR>&gt; last Saturday. I was warned that not only could =
my<BR>&gt;=20
  service be discontinued, but I could be legally<BR>&gt; prosecuted for =

  unauthorized use. I will, of course,<BR>&gt; cease and desist from my =
well=20
  intended practice.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I felt then, and still feel now, that what I =
did<BR>&gt;=20
  was posting intellectual property I had developed. I<BR>&gt; did not =
post the=20
  entire DGO List, rather only those<BR>&gt; stocks that I had reviewed =
and=20
  found worthy of<BR>&gt; mention.&nbsp; Obviously, Ms. McKnight and her =

  corporate<BR>&gt; counsel feel differently.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I would also note that despite my =
frequent=20
  and<BR>&gt; strong support of DGO in this discussion group, I<BR>&gt; =
have=20
  never once received a thank you from DGO. I<BR>&gt; cooperated with a =
reporter=20
  from IBD, who had sought<BR>&gt; interviews from members of this =
group. I=20
  don't know<BR>&gt; if she ever posted the article as I never heard=20
  back<BR>&gt; from her once she got her information. I also =
note<BR>&gt; that=20
  there have been numerous instances in which an<BR>&gt; article =
appeared in IBD=20
  shortly after similar<BR>&gt; discussions in this group. Not once was =
this=20
  group<BR>&gt; credited or acknowledged as providing the topic =
or<BR>&gt; idea=20
  for the article. To me that is theft of<BR>&gt; intellectual property, =
and=20
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needs to=20
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demand<BR>&gt;=20
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<BR>&gt;=20
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me<BR>&gt;=20
  that this group is being monitored covertly by DGO,<BR>&gt; and likely =
by IBD=20
  as well. I guess that is some kind<BR>&gt; of back handed compliment, =
in a=20
  way, but I don't<BR>&gt; like the sneaky approach.<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; The most =
upsetting=20
  part of this for me is getting<BR>&gt; this notice in a morning =
delivery by=20
  Fedex when a<BR>&gt; simple email would have sufficed. It's not like=20
  they<BR>&gt; don't have my email address, after all. Granted, =
it<BR>&gt; might=20
  not have the same legal standing, but I also<BR>&gt; don't need to be =
hit in=20
  the head with a baseball<BR>&gt; bat. And here I was thinking they had =

  finally<BR>&gt; recognized my ability to make good money even in =
a<BR>&gt;=20
  solid bear market (BTW, my VR fund is up over 15% in<BR>&gt; the past =
six=20
  trading days, and continues to beat<BR>&gt; every major index, but I'm =
not=20
  giving the list of<BR>&gt; stocks to DGO or IBD).<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unless Ms. =
McKnight=20
  further objects, I intend to<BR>&gt; continue reviewing the entire DGO =
List,=20
  and posting<BR>&gt; my thoughts and observations. Hopefully I can =
at<BR>&gt;=20
  least continue that service to this group. But with<BR>&gt; this "one =
way"=20
  policy so directly demonstrated,<BR>&gt; along with the continued =
failure of=20
  DGO to provide<BR>&gt; even minimal screening tools in the latest =
beta<BR>&gt;=20
  version, and the continuing limitation of reports to<BR>&gt; just =
those stocks=20
  in the DG books rather than all<BR>&gt; stocks, I will not make =
further=20
  recommendations to<BR>&gt; members to buy this service and will look=20
  for<BR>&gt; alternative means to achieve the same results.<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tom=20
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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 06:00:30 -0400
From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@netside.net>
Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview

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Thanks for all the comments on the legal letter from DGO, I got a few =
laughs, put things in perspective, now it's time to get back to CANSLIM. =
I will continue to use stock symbols, even if DGO calls them =
abbreviations and claims they have the copyright. I was calling them =
stock symbols long before DG/DGO/ID/IBD even existed, so I have the =
right.

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ON "M"
We have now had two quality and strong follow thru days in the past =
week. In both cases, they met all requirements, and were on multiple =
indexes as well. Both were better FT days than I can recall seeing in =
nearly two years. All indexes are now above their September lows, some =
above their April lows, and NYSE Financial substantially above the April =
low. Volume has remained above average on most of the up days, and =
generally light on the down days, giving back very little of the overall =
gains. For the week, DOW 30 and S&P500 gained about 3% and NASDAQ gained =
over 7%. I was surprised to see the Russell 2000 only gained 2.5% as my =
VR fund, entirely comprised of small and micro caps, gained over 10%. =
But I must admit it also made me feel good to beat this particular index =
so solidly. I see a number of other small cap funds (real ones, that is) =
that have done poorly this year. I am not sure why, so there may be a =
message there for me and other lovers of small caps. Their time may be =
passing as the market recovers and refocuses on mid to large cap stocks =
once again.

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- -------

ON ECONOMICS
Prior to the cowardly attacks on September 11, the economy was showing =
some signs of recovery. Consumer spending was increasing, as was =
consumer debt. NAPM numbers, while still contracting, were doing so at a =
much slower pace. There was strong evidence that the inventory =
reductions needed were nearing an end. September sales on autos remains =
strong, altho in part due the availability of interest free loans from =
the dealers. Housing starts and sales appear to have weakened a little, =
but are still strong historically. And the Feds have cut a full percent =
off rates, altho it's not being reflected in mortgage rates to the same =
extent. Fuel prices, after an initial spike, have fallen further and =
appear to be stabilizing. The dollar weakened, but not as dramatically =
as was feared. Inflation still is not an issue. The difficulty now lies =
in assessing where we are, and where we are going, since the attacks. A =
lot of the data is either prior 9/11, or is diluted by data since then. =
It will take several months before we can fully assess the impact on the =
economy. The President is meanwhile pushing an economic stimulus package =
which, along with increased Defense spending, could provide short term =
improvement. Some economists were operating these past several weeks out =
of temporary sites, and lacking all their historical data which was lost =
in the attack. It will take time for them to reconstruct that =
information. Unemployment continues to rise, and likely still does not =
fully reflect the damage done to corporate America by the attacks. Yet =
this economy is not dead, it's recovery may have been delayed, but it =
will happen.

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WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES (from blended sources)

Overall, I had substantially more candidates to consider this week than =
last as the markets began to recover. These are the ones I think are =
worth watching.

Bx means a flat line "B"ase of "x" weeks, IMO. Because of the new =
strength in "M", I will include one week bases.

PFFB - one week handle on the cup
AHMH - B1
AROW - shallow cup formed, one week handle
DORL - B1 handle on the cup
ADVP - cup completed
GG - B3, gold mining company
APOL - double bottom, cup??, approaching the pivot
GTY - B2
RYAN - cup completed, possible evidence of consumer spending post =
attack?
HRB - resuming its LLUR pattern
FCN - LLUR
PORT - did the left side of the cup pre-attack, right side post-attack, =
pretty impressive for a bank
WTFC - double bottom
FSNM - B4+
THC - B1+
MYL - cup completed, forming handle
RCGI - B3
ATPX - just had to mention this one, jumped another 4 bucks Friday, my =
big winner in my VR fund, up 94% now in 3 weeks, extended to say the =
least, could have been bot post-attack just over $10, trailing PE still =
only 17
PRSP - B1
CAH - handle forming
ANSS - cup completed and back to a six week pre-attack base
SWWC - one week handle on the cup, low priced utility
SAFM - B5+, chicken producer
CRFT - recovered to above pre-attack base
CYTC - B1
BDX - B1+
EPIQ - may be consolidating its 40% gains in the past three weeks
XRAY - B1
JNJ - consolidation along the $55 line, including a gap up pre-attack
MIMS - cup complete, forming high handle?, volume on right side of cup =
low
STJ - one week handle on the cup

Happy Hunting, now that "M" says to buy

God Bless America, and its integral strength,

Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM: TexWorley


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for all the comments on the legal letter from =
DGO, I=20
got a few laughs, put things in perspective, now it's time to get back =
to=20
CANSLIM. I will continue to use stock symbols, even if DGO calls them=20
abbreviations and claims they have the copyright. I was calling them =
stock=20
symbols long before DG/DGO/ID/IBD even existed, so I have the =
right.</DIV>
<DIV>
<HR>
</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>ON "M"</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>We have now had two quality and strong follow thru days in the past =
week.=20
In both cases, they met all requirements, and were on multiple indexes =
as well.=20
Both were better FT days than I can recall seeing in nearly two years. =
All=20
indexes are now above their September lows, some above their April lows, =
and=20
NYSE Financial substantially above the April low. Volume has remained =
above=20
average on most of the up days, and generally light on the down days, =
giving=20
back very little of the overall gains. For the week, DOW 30 and =
S&amp;P500=20
gained about 3% and NASDAQ gained over 7%. I was surprised to see the =
Russell=20
2000 only gained 2.5% as my VR fund, entirely comprised of small and =
micro caps,=20
gained over 10%. But I must admit it also made me feel good to beat this =

particular index so solidly. I see a number of other small cap funds =
(real ones,=20
that is) that have done poorly this year. I am not sure why, so there =
may be a=20
message there for me and other lovers of small caps. Their time may be =
passing=20
as the market recovers and refocuses on mid to large cap stocks once=20
again.</DIV>
<DIV>
<HR>
</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>ON ECONOMICS</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Prior to the cowardly attacks on September 11, the economy was =
showing some=20
signs of recovery. Consumer spending was increasing, as was consumer =
debt. NAPM=20
numbers, while still contracting, were doing so at a much slower pace. =
There was=20
strong evidence that the inventory reductions needed were nearing an =
end.=20
September sales on autos remains strong, altho in part due the =
availability of=20
interest free loans from the dealers. Housing starts and sales appear to =
have=20
weakened a little, but are still strong historically. And the Feds have =
cut a=20
full percent off rates, altho it's not being reflected in mortgage rates =
to the=20
same extent. Fuel prices, after an initial spike, have fallen further =
and appear=20
to be stabilizing. The dollar weakened, but not as dramatically as was =
feared.=20
Inflation still is not an issue. The difficulty now lies in assessing =
where we=20
are, and where we are going, since the attacks. A lot of the data is =
either=20
prior 9/11, or is diluted by data since then. It will take several =
months before=20
we can fully assess the impact on the economy. The President is =
meanwhile=20
pushing an economic stimulus package which, along with increased Defense =

spending, could provide short term improvement. Some economists were =
operating=20
these past several weeks out of temporary sites, and lacking all their=20
historical data which was lost in the attack. It will take time for them =
to=20
reconstruct that information. Unemployment continues to rise, and likely =
still=20
does not fully reflect the damage done to corporate America by the =
attacks. Yet=20
this economy is not dead, it's recovery may have been delayed, but it =
will=20
happen.</DIV>
<DIV>
<HR>
</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES </STRONG>(from blended =
sources)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Overall, I had substantially more candidates to consider this week =
than=20
last as the markets began to recover. These are the ones I think are =
worth=20
watching.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bx means a flat line "B"ase of "x" weeks, IMO. Because of the new =
strength=20
in "M", I will include one week bases.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>PFFB - one week handle on the cup</DIV>
<DIV>AHMH - B1</DIV>
<DIV>AROW - shallow cup formed, one week handle</DIV>
<DIV>DORL - B1 handle on the cup</DIV>
<DIV>ADVP - cup completed</DIV>
<DIV>GG - B3, gold mining company</DIV>
<DIV>APOL - double bottom, cup??, approaching the pivot</DIV>
<DIV>GTY - B2</DIV>
<DIV>RYAN - cup completed, possible evidence of consumer spending post=20
attack?</DIV>
<DIV>HRB - resuming its LLUR pattern</DIV>
<DIV>FCN - LLUR</DIV>
<DIV>PORT - did the left side of the cup pre-attack, right side =
post-attack,=20
pretty impressive for a bank</DIV>
<DIV>WTFC - double bottom</DIV>
<DIV>FSNM - B4+</DIV>
<DIV>THC - B1+</DIV>
<DIV>MYL - cup completed, forming handle</DIV>
<DIV>RCGI - B3</DIV>
<DIV>ATPX - just had to mention this one, jumped another 4 bucks Friday, =
my big=20
winner in my VR fund, up 94% now in 3 weeks, extended to say the least, =
could=20
have been bot post-attack just over $10, trailing PE still only 17</DIV>
<DIV>PRSP - B1</DIV>
<DIV>CAH - handle forming</DIV>
<DIV>ANSS - cup completed and back to a six week pre-attack base</DIV>
<DIV>SWWC - one week handle on the cup, low priced utility</DIV>
<DIV>SAFM - B5+, chicken producer</DIV>
<DIV>CRFT - recovered to above pre-attack base</DIV>
<DIV>CYTC - B1</DIV>
<DIV>BDX - B1+</DIV>
<DIV>EPIQ - may be consolidating its 40% gains in the past three =
weeks</DIV>
<DIV>XRAY - B1</DIV>
<DIV>JNJ - consolidation along the $55 line, including a gap up =
pre-attack</DIV>
<DIV>MIMS - cup complete, forming high handle?, volume on right side of =
cup=20
low</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>STJ - one week handle on the cup</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Happy Hunting, now that "M" says to buy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>God Bless America, and its integral =
strength,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
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