From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #182 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Thursday, April 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 182 In this issue: [CANSLIM] World Markets Re: [CANSLIM] Re: THRX Re: [CANSLIM] M [CANSLIM] beta offer... Re: [CANSLIM] M Re: [CANSLIM] PGEX [CANSLIM] Attached - CASLI Scan Results Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder [CANSLIM] World Markets Re: [CANSLIM] PGEX [CANSLIM] When to take profits?? Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder Re: [CANSLIM] Content-Type: text/plain Re: [CANSLIM] When to take profits?? Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder Re: [CANSLIM] CRII Re: [CANSLIM] BUNZ atten Tom Re: [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results [none] Re: [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results [CANSLIM] Mail list problem [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results Re: [CANSLIM] Mail list problem [CANSLIM] Buying on paper Re: [CANSLIM] Buying on paper [CANSLIM] Re: [CANSLIM] Breakout DKWD RE: [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results RE: [CANSLIM] Buying on paper ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:39:05 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] World Markets Looks like another confusing day for Wall Street. Earlier, the futures showed S&P opening up with NASDAQ flat. Now, S&P has eased some, but still shows a slight positive opening, while NASDAQ has strengthened. Asia has a neutral to positive day, let by Japan and Korea, however Europe appears to be going from neutral to negative. Can we presume confusion, concern, and lack of overall leadership?? Tom W - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:37:53 -0400 From: Peter Newell Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: THRX Tim, I agree looks like it bouncing off a three week pivot at 55. > THRX looks like a classic shakeout. It got me out at 59 but look at the > action today. Almost tempted to buy it back tomorrow. > > Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists > Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site > PFB Information > tfish@spiritone.com > WWW http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish -- See naked fish and rocks! > > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 06:44:23 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M At 09:39 PM 4/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >I'm not overly comfortable with "M" right now either, but still 100% >invested at this time. Haven't had time to study the mkt in much >detail, but my general sense is that there is a lot of fairly rapid >rotation going on, with money jumping out of groups/stocks that have >made big gains recently and into whatever sector is hot right now >(such as banking due all the mergers). > I am 25% in cash after stopping out on 3 this week. This looks to my limited experience like the prelude to another Correction. Tuesday looked like a distribution day according to HTMMIS to me. Is that not correct? Aren't you supposed to be +20% in cash after each of the distribution days? I certainly am very nervous about buying anything right now and won't even consider it until I see some positive action. P.S. MTG was just upgraded after the Bear-Stearns attempt to churn it and bounced nicely off support. Seems Bear-Stearns was using "skewed data" according to Lehman Bros. P.P.S. Someone who I will not name has a downgrade-on-price portfolio that was up 38% in 60 days last time I looked. Beating the crap out of me! Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site PFB Information tfish@spiritone.com WWW http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish -- See naked fish and rocks! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:49:01 -0700 From: "Joe J." Subject: [CANSLIM] beta offer... I received the same offer and filled out the questionnaire. I'm supposed to hear back within the week on what the site is and how to access it. I'll keep the group posted if it is anything worthwhile. Joe J. Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:17:51 -0500 From: Dave Cameron Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Clearstation Tim, I haven't seen anyone else respond to this - but I received the offer as well. Dave Cameron Tim Fisher wrote: > > Anyone else get an email about this supposedly free "beta" product? Is it > for real? Did they get our names from the membership of this list? I hate > junk email with a passion and although this looks like a good thing on the > surface I am naturally extremely suspect of spam mail. > - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:08:36 -0800 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M > From: "Tom Worley" > To: > I'm not overly comfortable with "M" right now either, but still 100% > invested at this time. Haven't had time to study the mkt in much > detail, but my general sense is that there is a lot of fairly rapid > rotation going on, with money jumping out of groups/stocks that have > made big gains recently and into whatever sector is hot right now > (such as banking due all the mergers). TC2000 has had some interesting comments about the current state of the market the last couple of days. By one measure they talked about, which is stocks 2 standard deviations over their moving average, the market is still quite overextended. They said that every 4 years the market tends to correct, and this would be the fourth year. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:16:42 -0400 From: Kom Tukovinit Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] PGEX OK. It looks like about 55 (end of jan) - 55 1/2 (end of dec) to me, but that is only one point difference. I suppose we will find out tomorrow if it goes through 54. Thanks for enlightening me. kom Mike Lucero wrote: > It looks to be at about 54, doesn't it? > > I had three stocks today come down and close just at their pivots. I'm > amazed at how rarely CANSLIM breakouts fail (in a good market like we've > had). It's certainly a huge change from December. > > Mike > - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:13:29 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: [CANSLIM] Attached - CASLI Scan Results - --=====================_892163609==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've attached the results in .txt format for those who have asked... - --=====================_892163609==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="casli4-9.txt" COMPANY Tick Exch Sect Ind Code Industry TREND EPGR QEPS 0/-4 QEPS -1/-5 24WK PCHG% TREND SALES P/E 12M ROI D/Eq PEG EPS GR % 0Q % -1Q % 24wk % GRS RS Total Score Natl Rv Hldgs NRVH NSDQ 8 30 BLDG-MBL/MFG&RV 32.07 148.15 114.81 61.98 41.31 16.33 28.1 N/A 0.66 0.766 0.891 0.931 0.971 0.959 0.9036 Theragenics Cp THRX NSDQ 4 106 MED-DRUGS 86.44 175 185.71 29.07 47.08 91.67 19.73 0 1.5 0.951 0.94 0.94 0.867 0.816 0.9028 Chart Inds Inc CTI NYSE 7 99 MACH-GENL INDL 345.94 60.23 56 34.34 23.29 20.65 52.05 5.49 1.01 1 0.783 0.801 0.916 0.858 0.8716 Jefferies Grp JEF NYSE 13 62 FIN-INVEST BKRS 27.17 47.66 30.93 46.63 25.16 19.93 19.3 21.83 N/A 0.834 0.872 0.762 0.924 0.921 0.8626 Manugistics Gp MANU NSDQ 10 44 COMP-SOFTWARE 74.41 66.67 76.47 65 39.89 99.69 14.61 0.41 1.41 0.899 0.717 0.746 0.942 0.962 0.8532 Analytic Survey ANLT NSDQ 16 206 BUS INFO SVCS 44.31 109.09 66.67 83.02 41.83 68.31 18.91 1.71 1.43 0.741 0.836 0.707 0.975 0.982 0.8482 Ha-lo Inds Inc HMK NYSE 2 1 ADVERTISING 128.04 29.63 112.5 32.21 91.42 45.83 16.59 5.07 1.16 0.995 0.682 0.874 0.755 0.842 0.8296 Xeta Corp XETA NSDQ 10 179 TELECOMM EQUIP 73.58 107.14 50 37.14 36.24 22.86 28.83 0 0.77 0.894 0.822 0.636 0.862 0.876 0.818 Amer Homestar HSTR NSDQ 8 30 BLDG-MBL/MFG&RV 29.88 33.69 22.73 70.9 42.82 21.58 14.44 30.76 0.9 0.744 0.691 0.678 1 0.97 0.8166 Datastream Sys DSTM NSDQ 10 44 COMP-SOFTWARE 72.46 58.33 47.62 41.96 84.04 38.35 28.64 8.73 1.02 0.889 0.689 0.633 0.884 0.907 0.8004 Renters Choice RCII NSDQ 3 165 RETAIL-MISC/DIV 58.82 38.1 42.11 26.67 63.98 25.36 14.97 17.79 0.9 0.967 0.729 0.718 0.709 0.792 0.783 Encore Wire Cp WIRE NSDQ 7 197 WIRE&CABLE PRDS 35.02 79.15 94.54 17.62 32.61 15.73 25.89 26.42 N/A 0.793 0.818 0.851 0.741 0.688 0.7782 Gleason Corp GLE NYSE 7 94 MACH TLS&RL PRD 106.1 27.42 37.14 20.27 27.61 14.58 20.69 3.95 1.04 0.965 0.639 0.734 0.793 0.726 0.7714 First Years Inc KIDD NSDQ 2 185 TOYS/GAME/HOBBY 44.8 48 25.93 24.44 25.62 24.65 18.8 0.23 1.23 0.879 0.78 0.633 0.684 0.772 0.7496 Coherent Commun CCSC NSDQ 10 179 TELECOMM EQUIP 36.74 47.37 43.75 44.49 30.53 50.97 36.53 0 1.3 0.663 0.646 0.615 0.89 0.915 0.7458 Optek Tech Inc OPTT NSDQ 10 51 ELEC MSRNG INST 49.16 48 29.17 36.67 7.33 14.73 60.45 13.1 1.29 0.781 0.652 0.533 0.86 0.873 0.7398 Special Devices SDII NSDQ 10 50 ELEC-MISC COMPN 48.49 72 41.94 21 37.14 19.52 14.84 4.08 0.62 0.779 0.73 0.608 0.773 0.734 0.7248 Tetra Tech New WATR NYSE 7 143 POLLUTION CNTRL 28.13 28.57 25 21.88 27.04 32.5 11.17 0 1.19 0.725 0.642 0.648 0.811 0.748 0.7148 Symix Systems SYMX NSDQ 10 44 COMP-SOFTWARE 69.84 33.33 33.33 17.81 20.84 35.83 16.65 0.59 1.02 0.881 0.588 0.547 0.752 0.691 0.6918 Ifr Sys Inc IFRS NSDQ 10 51 ELEC MSRNG INST 73.05 34.72 57.14 7.14 14.84 23.6 16.34 10.34 0.8 0.892 0.602 0.677 0.648 0.543 0.6724 Technitrol Inc TNL NYSE 10 52 ELEC PRODS-MISC 57.16 35.29 66.04 7.74 35.68 22.35 18.01 21.73 N/A 0.832 0.603 0.713 0.652 0.552 0.6704 Atmi Inc ATMI NSDQ 10 49 ELEC COMP-SEMIC 338.13 76.92 60 -7.2 49.02 47.12 19.21 13.59 0.86 0.993 0.74 0.691 0.505 0.338 0.6534 Anchor Gaming SLOT NSDQ 2 200 LEISURE&REC/GMG 41.18 100 105 -6.47 37.95 20.7 29.36 1.63 0.75 0.859 0.887 0.868 0.297 0.348 0.6518 Day Runner Inc DAYR NSDQ 7 125 OFFICE SPPL&FRM 30.73 34.33 22.81 5.13 14.95 17.08 25.45 0 0.86 0.74 0.682 0.614 0.529 0.516 0.6162 Dycom Inds DY NYSE 8 28 BLDG-HEAVY CNST 45.82 19.05 60 -1.39 18.61 22.56 26.68 26.7 1 0.887 0.554 0.873 0.31 0.419 0.6086 Pomeroy Comp Re PMRY NSDQ 3 169 RETA IL/WHSL CMP 37.89 30.99 46.07 -10.79 47.77 16.29 20.74 0.52 0.65 0.899 0.647 0.739 0.247 0.293 0.565 Cdw Comptr Ctrs CDWC NSDQ 3 169 RETA IL/WHSL CMP 54.38 30.61 36.36 -13.26 48.59 24.36 28.51 0 0.73 0.958 0.643 0.686 0.222 0.269 0.5556 Maxwell Tech MXWL NSDQ 11 55 ELEC-MILITARY 64.54 64.29 60 -23.51 3.9 37.5 13.96 3.71 0.6 0.883 0.694 0.728 0.065 0.173 0.5086 Zoltek Cos Inc ZOLT NSDQ 6 35 CHEM-FIBERS 93.92 25 50 -42 81.72 40.32 11.34 3.71 0.7 0.959 0.638 0.762 0.052 0.066 0.4954 - --=====================_892163609==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tim Fisher / tfish@spiritone.com Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites: http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish See naked fish and rocks! - --=====================_892163609==_-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 06:58:34 -0400 From: "Nelson E. Timken, Esq." Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder Welcome Ted. My experience with MSFT is that it breaks all the rules. It's the only stock with a perpetually high PE that I would consider buying. Nelson E. Timken, Esq. Queens, New York - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------- Personal Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/wallstreet/5791 - -----Original Message----- From: T. Snyder To: canslim@xmission.com Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 12:30 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder >Hi list, > >Just joined and thought I'd introduce myself (and a couple of my thoughts on >CANSLIM investing). I'm a retired reporter with no formal investment >training. I just got into the market about two years ago. I am a confirmed >bull, and tend to hold positions somewhat riskier-than-average. A friend >turned me on to William O'Neil's book shortly after I started trading, and >I've been experimenting with investing in equities that conform strictly to >the CANSLIM philosophy -- as well as some equities that don't. > >I'm in the process of developing my own strategic investment philosophy >(how's that for hubris from a beginner?), based on elements of >O'Neil's strategy, combined with elements of "Buffetology" and some of the >basic financial concepts in Andrew Carnegie's writings. I do all my trading >online. > >So far, I haven't had a real "dog," but I'd like to share my thoughts on two >specific equities. I welcome public or private feedback! First, Microsoft >Corporation (Nasdaq: MSFT). The majority of my holdings are MSFT shares, >which I bought before I read "How To Make Money In Stocks." Although MSFT >violates the S rule (there are bazillions of outstanding shares), and my buy >violated the N rule (I bought it at 76 3/8, after a two-week price decline), >MSFT has been a hands-down winner for me. My earnings on those shares >average 49 percent annually. > >Second, Cell Robotics International, Inc. (OTC: CRII). I bought this after >learning about CANSLIM. Although CRII has some C and A problems, it's >potential strength with the other factors seemed so great that I bought it >anyway. CRII has lost money every quarter since the IPO several years ago, >*but* they were pouring money from institutional sponsors into R&D for new >laser technologies that could reach completely-untapped markets. I bought >it at its then-new high of 3 1/4; it closed recently at 2 5/16. It may turn >out to be a good gamble; the FDA has approved the company's "Lasette" (TM) >device for painless drawing of capillary blood. Millions of diabetics must >do this daily to check blood-sugar levels, but previously they had to use a >painful, sharp lancet. CRII also has a recent agreement with one of Japan's >largest health-care groups to market the device in Japan. The company also >makes in-vitro workstations using laser technology, and a skin-resurfacing >laser. If the Lasette takes off, the earnings potential is huge. If not -- >well, it'll be my first "dog." > >Looking forward to learning from the list, >Ted > > > > >- > > - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 06:58:31 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder Welcome to the group, Ted. DailyGraphs Online appears to be down this morning, hope they haven't gone commercial. But while MSFT is not a perfect model of CANSLIM, I think it meets some of the more important criteria such as consistent growth. As to "N", you could throw in Windows 98, despite all the antitrust bs (like someone capable of navigating the net can't discover a site to download Netscape or any other browser!!). Will pass any comments on CRII later after I look at some charts. Of course, the most obvious is the price, which takes it way out of consideration by the institutionals. Its business connection to Japan is likely not helping its price currently, but that could change by the end of the year. And if it's your first "dog" after two years of investing, then it's about time you got bitten and made your financial offerings to the stocks gods !! Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: T. Snyder To: canslim@xmission.com Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 12:27 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder >Hi list, > >Just joined and thought I'd introduce myself (and a couple of my thoughts on >CANSLIM investing). I'm a retired reporter with no formal investment >So far, I haven't had a real "dog," but I'd like to share my thoughts on two >specific equities. I welcome public or private feedback! First, Microsoft >Corporation (Nasdaq: MSFT). The majority of my holdings are MSFT > >Second, Cell Robotics International, Inc. (OTC: CRII). I bought this after >learning about CANSLIM. Although CRII has some C and A problems, it's >potential strength with the other factors seemed so great that I bought it >anyway. CRII has lost money every quarter since the IPO several years ago, - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 06:58:31 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder --- Message body skipped --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:06:19 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] World Markets Trying to read the open is getting real weird. Looks like the S&P500 is drifting lower towards neutral, while NASDAQ100 is increasing slightly, up nearly half a percent now. Asia generally had a good day, led by a continued strong rally (4th day in a row I think, now up nearly 10% from recent lows) closing up nearly 2.5% and solidly over 16,000 again. Looks like the talk of extending, and even making permanent, some present tax cuts is doing the trick. Meanwhile Europe appears to be ignoring Asia and following yesterday's action on Wall Street. I suspect our fears of corp earnings shortfalls from the Asian fallout is carrying over there as well. Won't be resolved for another week or two, as we see the actual results from the mkt leaders. Tom W - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:12:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Deepak Kapur Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] PGEX Mike, >It looks to be at about 54, doesn't it? > >I had three stocks today come down and close just at their pivots. I'm >amazed at how rarely CANSLIM breakouts fail (in a good market like we've >had). It's certainly a huge change from December. > >Mike > >On Tuesday, April 07, 1998 6:00 PM, Kom Tukovinit >[SMTP:tikmok@global.california.com] wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> What do you view as the support level for PGEX? >> >> Thanks. >> >> kom >> Did it not violate the support yesterday? It went all the way down to 53 before recovering a little at the closing. Should it have been sold then? What am I missing? Deepak - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:07:21 -0700 From: Subject: [CANSLIM] When to take profits?? As I have said before I am very new to this canslim group and am learning slowly. So far I have been listening to you folks and am grateful for the information. My question is in the book How to make money in stocks he gives numerous times and reasons to sell. Do you sell when you have realized a 20% gain or do you reevaluate and hold on.??? I have 2 stocks that are nearing the 20 % level and seem to be solid. They are MINI and AACE. confused David - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 06:57:48 -0800 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder > From: "T. Snyder" > To: > Second, Cell Robotics International, Inc. (OTC: CRII). I bought this after > learning about CANSLIM. Although CRII has some C and A problems, it's > potential strength with the other factors seemed so great that I bought it I shouldn't even think of making a comment to someone who has been smart enough to own MSFT for the last two years, but I will anyway - CRII doesn't seem to qualify as CANSLIM on several counts - one, William O'Neil is adamant about not buying stocks under 10 a share, I've heard him say this many times. He feels stocks priced that low are generally lower quality and you decrease your odds of finding a good company. Also, as you say, no C and no A. This doesn't mean you shouldn't own the stock if you are confident of the fundamentals, just that you aren't applying CANSLIM principles. - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:45:40 +0000 From: Peter Christiansen Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Content-Type: text/plain peterc@loxinfo.co.th 50 trades a year. I'd subscribe at $100.00 a year. Peter Christiansen Chiang Mai - Thailand - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:17:07 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] When to take profits?? As I understand what WON really means, including comments from some of his seminars and online interviews, the 20% target is primarily intended for those new to investing, and unable to cope with any more complicated approach to "when to sell". The idea is to build up the portfolio profits to offset the 8% stopped out stocks. That way, if you are following both rules, and are only half way right at picking your entry (pivot) points, then for every two stocks where you are wrong and stopped out at 8%, you will hopefully have one where you are right and it goes up for a sale at a plus 20%, thus giving you a net gain in the portfolio. Once you have gained some confidence and experience, and profits, then you can start applying more subjective rules, the best of which is to use a stop loss, and keep moving it up as the price increases. The rules I was trained on by WON staffers was that once you were up 15%, you moved your original stop loss (of 8% from your entry point) upward to a stop loss of 8% from the current price. This way you protected some of your profits, yet gave the stock some room to correct. If it corrected more than 8% from the new highs, you were out. If it continued moving higher, you moved your new stop loss higher. I have recently held stocks for as much as a 70% gain, and still sold too early. I have sold several for low double digit gains. I have also held several stocks for more than an 8% drop from new highs (most recently HDWY) only to have them reverse upward to even newer highs. It's a judgement call based on opinion, experience, gut, CANSLIM, reading of "M", actions and news within the group, etc. I use 20% as a guide only, not an absolute rule, and once I have 20% gains start looking more closely for a reason to sell. But I don't use it as the single most important decision maker. Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: hoseco7@concentric.net To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 1:06 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] When to take profits?? > >As I have said before I am very new to this canslim group and am learning >slowly. >So far I have been listening to you folks and am grateful for the >information. >My question is in the book How to make money in stocks >he gives numerous times and reasons to sell. >Do you sell when you have realized a 20% gain or do you reevaluate >and hold on.??? I have 2 stocks that are nearing the 20 % level and >seem to be solid. They are MINI and AACE. > > confused > David > > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:40:13 GMT From: musicant@autobahn.org (Dan Musicant) Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder Hi Ted, I just posted to Silicon Investor this morning, in fact, pointing out how well MSFT has done since the Asian crisis began to materialize. As far as N is concerned, I would give them a more or less permanent immunity from concerns on this score. I think that Windows 95 proved that MS is the dominant software player in the near term future, all the litigation and blunderbuss notwithstanding. While many took a wait and see attitude when Windows 95 was finally introduced, I think the cat is now out of the bag. Windows 98 will be welcomed by anyone who uses Windows 95. Windows NT will improve, and the two streams will probably become one torrent. I don't know how big a winner it will be, but I don't see how it can be a loser. Dan - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:22:36 -0400 From: Peter Newell Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CRII At 2.5 this stock if very spectulative and I would treat it as such. This stock is not on most services I use either which makes me wonder. - ---------- > From: Patrick Wahl > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Intro: Ted Snyder > Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 10:57 AM > > > From: "T. Snyder" > > To: > > > Second, Cell Robotics International, Inc. (OTC: CRII). I bought this after > > learning about CANSLIM. Although CRII has some C and A problems, it's > > potential strength with the other factors seemed so great that I bought it > > I shouldn't even think of making a comment to someone who has been > smart enough to own MSFT for the last two years, but I will anyway - > > CRII doesn't seem to qualify as CANSLIM on several counts - one, > William O'Neil is adamant about not buying stocks under 10 a share, > I've heard him say this many times. He feels stocks priced that low > are generally lower quality and you decrease your odds of finding a > good company. Also, as you say, no C and no A. This doesn't mean > you shouldn't own the stock if you are confident of the fundamentals, > just that you aren't applying CANSLIM principles. > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:55:07 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] BUNZ atten Tom I believe your right patrick , but I think I am gonna hang on. it got a real good bounce yesterday., and the company has said it will have this thing solved in a matter of days. I still think it is a solid company and I had intended this one to be long term anyway. So I think I will stay the course and see what happens. - -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Wahl To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] BUNZ atten Tom > From: > To: > god you were so right on this one > I lost my you know what on this one today > I am down about 35% already > you think I should go ahead and dump it > it seems to have bottomed out > but some sort of news is expected this aft. > apparently some people knew inadvance I've been in this position myself with a stock unfortunately and I think the best thing to do is bail out and look for the next stock. Given the news that was reported on this one, I think investor confidence will be shaken, and at best it will mark time for several months before it makes any sort of recovery. I don't think there was any way to see this one coming. I mentioned this stock on this list a few weeks ago, thought it looked pretty good. - - - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:33:40 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results Ah crap, this "new" Eudora really gets my goat. If you want the Excel spreadsheet let me know and I'll mail it to you. I don't have the time to= make it look pretty. At 08:30 AM 4/8/98 , I wrote: >Just finished my scan on Zack's March data; here's the results. >EPS GR =3D 5 year EPS trend compared to Sector >0Q% =3D Q0/Q-4 EPS Change Compared to Sector >-1Q% =3D Q-1/Q-5 EPS Change Compared to Sector >24wk GRS =3D Price change last 24 wks compared to Sector >RS =3D Price change last 24 wks compared to Market >Total Score =3D average of the preceeding ranks > >COMPANYTickEPS GR %0Q %-1Q %24wk %=A0=A0=A0 GRSRSTotal Score=20 >=A0=A0 Natl Rv Hldgs=A0 NRVH=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 77%89%93%97%96%90%=20 >=A0=A0 Theragenics Cp THRX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 95%94%94%87%82%90%=20 Tim Fisher / tfish@spiritone.com Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites: http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish See naked fish and rocks! - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:47:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Subject: [none] Connie: This may be a little off topic but I have three potential shorts that I am looking at and I wonder if you would be so good as to comment on their technicals. I am trying to apply your ideas on divergence and moving average crossovers to help me time my shorts. My choice of shorts is based on their price pattern, breakdown of strong relative strength and timeliness and weak group strength. I would trade these shares over a period of several weeks. The stocks are: Sym RS A/D EPS GRS Funds ShtInt MEDI 98 A 41 39 24% 7.4d DLP 96 A 52 51 24% 10.6d JCOR 82 A 37 92 96% 11.1d I am waiting for the patterns of these companies to break down a little bit more but they are on my watch list. In addition, DELL is on my watch list. Thanks for your help. Ciao, Rich _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:33:40 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results Ah crap, this "new" Eudora really gets my goat. If you want the Excel spreadsheet let me know and I'll mail it to you. I don't have the time to= make it look pretty. At 08:30 AM 4/8/98 , I wrote: >Just finished my scan on Zack's March data; here's the results. >EPS GR =3D 5 year EPS trend compared to Sector >0Q% =3D Q0/Q-4 EPS Change Compared to Sector >-1Q% =3D Q-1/Q-5 EPS Change Compared to Sector >24wk GRS =3D Price change last 24 wks compared to Sector >RS =3D Price change last 24 wks compared to Market >Total Score =3D average of the preceeding ranks > >COMPANYTickEPS GR %0Q %-1Q %24wk %=A0=A0=A0 GRSRSTotal Score=20 >=A0=A0 Natl Rv Hldgs=A0 NRVH=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 77%89%93%97%96%90%=20 >=A0=A0 Theragenics Cp THRX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 95%94%94%87%82%90%=20 Tim Fisher / tfish@spiritone.com Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites: http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish See naked fish and rocks! - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:20:50 -0700 From: Subject: [CANSLIM] Mail list problem do yall keep getting the same mail over and over not all messages just certain ones seem to be floating around on this list David - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:30:20 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results Just finished my scan on Zack's March data; here's the results. EPS GR = 5 year EPS trend compared to Sector 0Q% = Q0/Q-4 EPS Change Compared to Sector - -1Q% = Q-1/Q-5 EPS Change Compared to Sector 24wk GRS = Price change last 24 wks compared to Sector RS = Price change last 24 wks compared to Market Total Score = average of the preceeding ranks COMPANYTickEPS GR %0Q %-1Q %24wk % GRSRSTotal Score Natl Rv Hldgs NRVH 77%89%93%97%96%90% Theragenics Cp THRX 95%94%94%87%82%90% Chart Inds Inc CTI 100%78%80%92%86%87% Jefferies Grp JEF 83%87%76%92%92%86% Manugistics Gp MANU 90%72%75%94%96%85% Analytic SurveyANLT 74%84%71%98%98%85% Ha-lo Inds Inc HMK 100%68%87%76%84%83% Xeta Corp XETA 89%82%64%86%88%82% Amer Homestar HSTR 74%69%68%100%97%82% Datastream Sys DSTM 89%69%63%88%91%80% Renters Choice RCII 97%73%72%71%79%78% Encore Wire Cp WIRE 79%82%85%74%69%78% Gleason Corp GLE 97%64%73%79%73%77% First Years IncKIDD 88%78%63%68%77%75% Coherent CommunCCSC 66%65%62%89%92%75% Optek Tech Inc OPTT 78%65%53%86%87%74% Special DevicesSDII 78%73%61%77%73%72% Tetra Tech New WATR 73%64%65%81%75%71% Symix Systems SYMX 88%59%55%75%69%69% Ifr Sys Inc IFRS 89%60%68%65%54%67% Technitrol Inc TNL 83%60%71%65%55%67% Atmi Inc ATMI 99%74%69%51%34%65% Anchor Gaming SLOT 86%89%87%30%35%65% Day Runner Inc DAYR 74%68%61%53%52%62% Dycom Inds DY 89%55%87%31%42%61% Pomeroy Comp RePMRY 90%65%74%25%29%57% Cdw Comptr CtrsCDWC 96%64%69%22%27%56% Maxwell Tech MXWL 88%69%73%7%17%51% Zoltek Cos Inc ZOLT 96%64%76%5%7%50% Tim Fisher / tfish@spiritone.com Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites: http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish See naked fish and rocks! - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 19:33:04 -0400 From: Craig Griffin Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Mail list problem Yes, that happens once in a while. Just ignore it, doesn't last long. At 04:20 PM 4/9/98 -0700, you wrote: > >do yall keep getting the same mail over and over >not all messages just certain ones seem to be floating around on this list > > David > > > > >- > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:04:44 -0500 From: "Michael Doroshenko" Subject: [CANSLIM] Buying on paper Hello Group: I have read most of HTMMIS and I know that I will have to reread it because there were some parts that were not thoroughly understood. I understand the fundamentals behind CANSLIM investing, but it is the parts of reading charts, when to sell, diversifying, and tape reading that seemed to be vague and not fully understood. So it will be back to the book. A stock I am buying on paper AWRD Award Software Intl, Inc. NASDAQ RS 81 EPS 96 Group RS 91 Growth Rate 82% A/D A U/D 2.4 It seems that it meets most of the CANSLIM requirements and the chart will show that is in a second basing pattern. I think with the growth rate and funds only owning 10% and it being 13% off of its high, that it has room to shoot up. I am betting on this one to move. I am concerned about the earnings report as I could not find when it is available on DG. The quarter ended March 31. I am buying at the close of 13.25 a share. I only am starting out with $2,000 on my fictitious account because that will be what I will be starting out with when I open up a broker's account. I am buying 76 shares of this one. Any comments would be welcome to help me understand why I am so excited about this stock. Also, I scanned the DG on their add/delete stocks list and this was the only one that caught my eye. Mike - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:31:52 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Buying on paper Michael, Current RS as of DG Online is now 73, which would likely make me shy away from it even tho the chart looks good and has good CS elements. One thing it is lacking for a buy right now is any indication of a new breakout from the current short (less than 3 week) base on volume. The chart looks like it may have formed a cup and handle several months ago, with the handle basing out just under 10. Since then it appears to be forming a staircase pattern. Definitely worth watching, but I wouldn't buy it until I saw an attempt to break higher. Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Doroshenko To: canslim Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 10:20 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Buying on paper >Hello Group: >I have read most of HTMMIS and I know that I will have to reread it because >there were some parts that were not thoroughly understood. I understand the >fundamentals behind CANSLIM investing, but it is the parts of reading >charts, when to sell, diversifying, and tape reading that seemed to be vague >and not fully understood. So it will be back to the book. > >A stock I am buying on paper >AWRD Award Software Intl, Inc. NASDAQ >RS 81 EPS 96 Group RS 91 Growth Rate 82% A/D A U/D 2.4 >It seems that it meets most of the CANSLIM requirements and the chart will >show that is in a second basing pattern. I think with the growth rate and >funds only owning 10% and it being 13% off of its high, that it has room to >shoot up. I am betting on this one to move. I am concerned about the >earnings report as I could not find when it is available on DG. The quarter >ended March 31. I am buying at the close of 13.25 a share. I only am >starting out with $2,000 on my fictitious account because that will be what >I will be starting out with when I open up a broker's account. I am buying >76 shares of this one. Any comments would be welcome to help me understand >why I am so excited about this stock. Also, I scanned the DG on their >add/delete stocks list and this was the only one that caught my eye. > >Mike > > > > > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:38:24 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Rich, FWIW, I'm not an advocate of shorting when the overall mkt trend remains bullish. I also don't like shorting stocks with high RS (two of the three are in the 90s), nor where Timeliness, A/D, and u/d ratio are all neutral to positive. None of the three would fit my criteria as a CANSLIM buy, but by no means would they fit my goals on shorting, either. Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: Rich To: rea1998@gte.net ; canslim@mail.xmission.com Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 3:39 PM >Connie: > >This may be a little off topic but I have three potential shorts that >I am looking at and I wonder if you would be so good as to comment on >their technicals. I am trying to apply your ideas on divergence and >moving average crossovers to help me time my shorts. My choice of >shorts is based on their price pattern, breakdown of strong relative >strength and timeliness and weak group strength. I would trade these >shares over a period of several weeks. The stocks are: > >Sym RS A/D EPS GRS Funds ShtInt >MEDI 98 A 41 39 24% 7.4d >DLP 96 A 52 51 24% 10.6d >JCOR 82 A 37 92 96% 11.1d > >I am waiting for the patterns of these companies to break down a >little bit more but they are on my watch list. In addition, DELL is >on my watch list. Thanks for your help. > >Ciao, >Rich > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:46:50 +0000 From: Peter Christiansen Subject: [CANSLIM] Breakout DKWD DKWD broke out of a six week base on excellent volume. It closed more than 5% above the pivot point; maybe it will pull back a bit, presenting a buying opportunity. Peter Christiansen Chiang Mai - Thailand - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:47:31 -0400 From: "Douglas Dame" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CASLI Scan Results Tim, when you say "compared to Sector" do you mean "percentile ranking within Sector" ??? Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks Douglas Dame -- Interlachen FL > > Just finished my scan on Zack's March data; here's the results. > EPS GR = 5 year EPS trend compared to Sector > 0Q% = Q0/Q-4 EPS Change Compared to Sector > -1Q% = Q-1/Q-5 EPS Change Compared to Sector > 24wk GRS = Price change last 24 wks compared to Sector > RS = Price change last 24 wks compared to Market > Total Score = average of the preceeding ranks - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:50:57 -0700 From: Mike Lucero Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Buying on paper DG Online says the earnings report is expected 4/24. Mike On Thursday, April 09, 1998 7:05 PM, Michael Doroshenko [SMTP:mdor@prodigy.net] wrote: > Hello Group: > I have read most of HTMMIS and I know that I will have to reread it because > there were some parts that were not thoroughly understood. I understand the > fundamentals behind CANSLIM investing, but it is the parts of reading > charts, when to sell, diversifying, and tape reading that seemed to be vague > and not fully understood. So it will be back to the book. > > A stock I am buying on paper > AWRD Award Software Intl, Inc. NASDAQ > RS 81 EPS 96 Group RS 91 Growth Rate 82% A/D A U/D 2.4 > It seems that it meets most of the CANSLIM requirements and the chart will > show that is in a second basing pattern. I think with the growth rate and > funds only owning 10% and it being 13% off of its high, that it has room to > shoot up. I am betting on this one to move. I am concerned about the > earnings report as I could not find when it is available on DG. The quarter > ended March 31. I am buying at the close of 13.25 a share. I only am > starting out with $2,000 on my fictitious account because that will be what > I will be starting out with when I open up a broker's account. I am buying > 76 shares of this one. Any comments would be welcome to help me understand > why I am so excited about this stock. Also, I scanned the DG on their > add/delete stocks list and this was the only one that caught my eye. > > Mike > > > > > > - > - - ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #182 ***************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.