From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2051 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Thursday, January 17 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2051 In this issue: AW: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim [CANSLIM] DYII Revisited--post analysis Re: [CANSLIM] NMTC down grade. Re: [CANSLIM] You've Been Sent An Article From The Onion ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:30:02 +0100 From: Andreas Himmelreich Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim same by me ..., since I consider to go to the US (at least for some years, as I already did in 1998) > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: Gyorgy Veszpremi [SMTP:GyorgyV@rcmachine.com] > Gesendet am: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:17 PM > An: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim > > I totally agree with you on this. > > Fanus wrote: > > > I am currently a green card holder, so I guess I am > > one of the baffoons. It took me 3 years to get a > > green card and I had to have proof of employment > > before obtaining a workers visa. After one obtain a > > green card, you need to wait 5 years before you can > > become citizen, (if you marry a citizen, you have to > > wait 3 years), only then can you vote. So on average > > one can only vote after about 8 years. Don't know > > where you get the idea that people can vote right > > away. Furthermore, I am not elegible for welfare and > > social security. Only citizens are. But I still pay > > social security tax, which I do not have a problem > > with. This is a small price to pay to work in a stable > > country. > > > > Keep in mind, the general idea of immigrants working > > in the US is to fill jobs for which there are a > > shortage of skilled workers. And yes, there had to be > > a shortage. Before being able to get my green card, > > my job had to be advertised in a newspaper and only > > after there weren't qualifying applications from US > > citizens were it determined that there is a shortage > > for that particular skill. I am not sure how you > > consider filling shortages as hurting the country. > > You also cannot blame the INS for illegal immigrants > > working here. The INS had nothing to do with them. > > That is why they are illegal. > > > > I am sorry for going off the topic of the discussion > > list, but couldn't let this one slip by. > > > > Regards > > - Fanus > > > > --- Dan Forant wrote: > > > Please, let's not compare the immigrants of today > > > with the past. No > > > comparison. If you don't believe the INS has hurt > > > the Nation in general, > > > that's your right. This was a broad stroke > > > statement, not just about Miami, > > > but including Miami. > > > > > > DanF > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Worley" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:23 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under water > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > Dan, having lived in Miami, FL for the past 18 > > > years, I take exception to > > > > your statements. > > > > > > > > The bulk of the immigrants that have settled here > > > are Cuban, and they are > > > > among the most hard working people I have met. > > > They are family oriented, > > > and > > > > welcome with open arms even very distant > > > relatives, or even friends or > > > > neighbors of distant relatives. They help find > > > them a place to live, they > > > > find them a job, they support them and ease the > > > transition into a new > > > > country and culture. > > > > > > > > I also believe one of the requirements to gain > > > resident alien status is > > > > proof of a job, or other means of support to > > > ensure welfare will not be an > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > I certainly would not be still living in the city > > > of Miami after 18 years > > > if > > > > I believe it was "ruined". > > > > > > > > Where did you get the notion that a recent > > > immigrant, legal or illegal, > > > was > > > > even allowed to vote? Are you forgetting that most > > > present day citizens of > > > > the USA were once an immigrant, or are descended > > > from an immigrant? Not a > > > > bad thing, I believe this cultural blend is what > > > has made this country so > > > > great, and made it value freedom so much. > > > > > > > > I would also note that typically only a very small > > > percentage of the > > > > citizens of the United States even bother to vote. > > > Guess the ones that > > > don't > > > > bother are baffoons as well? > > > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > > stkguru@netside.net > > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dan Forant" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:17 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fanus, > > > > > > > > > > It is a well known fact the last Administration > > > let in a bunch of > > > baffoons > > > > > mainly so they would enroll Democrat and vote. > > > Un-controlled borders > > > etc. > > > > > Carter did the same thing and ruined Miami Fla. > > > Most of these enrolled > > > > > immediately for welfare of sorts. Couldn't or > > > can't speak the language > > > let > > > > > alone have a trade of any sort. That doesn't > > > include the illegal ones > > > > > including those from the troubled Middle East. > > > > > > > > > > DanF > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Fanus" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:28 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify your statement "The INS has > > > screwed up > > > > > > the makeup of our Country..." > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fanus > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Dan Forant wrote: > > > > > > > Glug,glug,glug, under water is right. Enron > > > may have > > > > > > > put the final nail in > > > > > > > the coffin for awhile. This combined with > > > future > > > > > > > bleak earnings spell > > > > > > > trouble ahead. Kmart bumbling along with > > > other bad > > > > > > > news such as the SEC's > > > > > > > inability to keep track of GIANTS have given > > > > > > > investors a bad taste. Congress > > > > > > > will bloat and gloat for months over Enron > > > and I > > > > > > > believe very little will be > > > > > > > done about it legally. Congress is part of > > > the > > > > > > > problem. Campaign $$$. The > > > > > > > INS has screwed up the makeup of our > > > Country, the > > > > > > > Government (SEC) may now > > > > > > > have set back our financial markets for > > > quite > > > > > > > awhile.. That's why a large > > > > > > > brokerage house recently said to be only 50% > > > > > > > invested. But then again > > > > > > > ........of course they would. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DanF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Andreas Himmelreich" > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:42 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nasdaq Future is under water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > > > canslim" or > > > > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes > > > in your > > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > > > canslim" or > > > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:26:51 -0700 From: "Ken MacFarlane" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim You got me on this one. I have worked with immigrants coming to America to work in the electronics industry for over 17 years. As a group, they are very hard working, very loyal to their families and very good citizens. It is silly to single them out for anything negative. I had my say. Thanks for the indulgence Ken - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gyorgy Veszpremi" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim > I totally agree with you on this. > > Fanus wrote: > > > I am currently a green card holder, so I guess I am > > one of the baffoons. It took me 3 years to get a > > green card and I had to have proof of employment > > before obtaining a workers visa. After one obtain a > > green card, you need to wait 5 years before you can > > become citizen, (if you marry a citizen, you have to > > wait 3 years), only then can you vote. So on average > > one can only vote after about 8 years. Don't know > > where you get the idea that people can vote right > > away. Furthermore, I am not elegible for welfare and > > social security. Only citizens are. But I still pay > > social security tax, which I do not have a problem > > with. This is a small price to pay to work in a stable > > country. > > > > Keep in mind, the general idea of immigrants working > > in the US is to fill jobs for which there are a > > shortage of skilled workers. And yes, there had to be > > a shortage. Before being able to get my green card, > > my job had to be advertised in a newspaper and only > > after there weren't qualifying applications from US > > citizens were it determined that there is a shortage > > for that particular skill. I am not sure how you > > consider filling shortages as hurting the country. > > You also cannot blame the INS for illegal immigrants > > working here. The INS had nothing to do with them. > > That is why they are illegal. > > > > I am sorry for going off the topic of the discussion > > list, but couldn't let this one slip by. > > > > Regards > > - Fanus > > > > --- Dan Forant wrote: > > > Please, let's not compare the immigrants of today > > > with the past. No > > > comparison. If you don't believe the INS has hurt > > > the Nation in general, > > > that's your right. This was a broad stroke > > > statement, not just about Miami, > > > but including Miami. > > > > > > DanF > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Worley" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:23 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under water > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > Dan, having lived in Miami, FL for the past 18 > > > years, I take exception to > > > > your statements. > > > > > > > > The bulk of the immigrants that have settled here > > > are Cuban, and they are > > > > among the most hard working people I have met. > > > They are family oriented, > > > and > > > > welcome with open arms even very distant > > > relatives, or even friends or > > > > neighbors of distant relatives. They help find > > > them a place to live, they > > > > find them a job, they support them and ease the > > > transition into a new > > > > country and culture. > > > > > > > > I also believe one of the requirements to gain > > > resident alien status is > > > > proof of a job, or other means of support to > > > ensure welfare will not be an > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > I certainly would not be still living in the city > > > of Miami after 18 years > > > if > > > > I believe it was "ruined". > > > > > > > > Where did you get the notion that a recent > > > immigrant, legal or illegal, > > > was > > > > even allowed to vote? Are you forgetting that most > > > present day citizens of > > > > the USA were once an immigrant, or are descended > > > from an immigrant? Not a > > > > bad thing, I believe this cultural blend is what > > > has made this country so > > > > great, and made it value freedom so much. > > > > > > > > I would also note that typically only a very small > > > percentage of the > > > > citizens of the United States even bother to vote. > > > Guess the ones that > > > don't > > > > bother are baffoons as well? > > > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > > stkguru@netside.net > > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dan Forant" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:17 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fanus, > > > > > > > > > > It is a well known fact the last Administration > > > let in a bunch of > > > baffoons > > > > > mainly so they would enroll Democrat and vote. > > > Un-controlled borders > > > etc. > > > > > Carter did the same thing and ruined Miami Fla. > > > Most of these enrolled > > > > > immediately for welfare of sorts. Couldn't or > > > can't speak the language > > > let > > > > > alone have a trade of any sort. That doesn't > > > include the illegal ones > > > > > including those from the troubled Middle East. > > > > > > > > > > DanF > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Fanus" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:28 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify your statement "The INS has > > > screwed up > > > > > > the makeup of our Country..." > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fanus > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Dan Forant wrote: > > > > > > > Glug,glug,glug, under water is right. Enron > > > may have > > > > > > > put the final nail in > > > > > > > the coffin for awhile. This combined with > > > future > > > > > > > bleak earnings spell > > > > > > > trouble ahead. Kmart bumbling along with > > > other bad > > > > > > > news such as the SEC's > > > > > > > inability to keep track of GIANTS have given > > > > > > > investors a bad taste. Congress > > > > > > > will bloat and gloat for months over Enron > > > and I > > > > > > > believe very little will be > > > > > > > done about it legally. Congress is part of > > > the > > > > > > > problem. Campaign $$$. The > > > > > > > INS has screwed up the makeup of our > > > Country, the > > > > > > > Government (SEC) may now > > > > > > > have set back our financial markets for > > > quite > > > > > > > awhile.. That's why a large > > > > > > > brokerage house recently said to be only 50% > > > > > > > invested. But then again > > > > > > > ........of course they would. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DanF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Andreas Himmelreich" > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:42 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nasdaq Future is under water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > > > canslim" or > > > > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes > > > in your > > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > > > canslim" or > > > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:17:15 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim Well said, Fanus, and from first hand experience. Thank you. One of my staff is a green card holder from the Bahamas. I know the ordeal we had to go through to prove she was "essential" and could be hired. I have long felt that forcing people to pay social security taxes when they are not eligible for the benefits is unfair. Don't know what will change that, other than having enough "victims" of this system attain the right to vote to change it. Most of those that are eligible to vote still have not grasped the concept of "taxation without right of representation", even though that goes right back to the very foundations of this country, and the Boston Tea Party that ignited the American Revolution. Thanks also for confirming my impression of your lack of representation in our Congress, by the lengthy process it takes before you can vote. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fanus" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim > I am currently a green card holder, so I guess I am > one of the baffoons. It took me 3 years to get a > green card and I had to have proof of employment > before obtaining a workers visa. After one obtain a > green card, you need to wait 5 years before you can > become citizen, (if you marry a citizen, you have to > wait 3 years), only then can you vote. So on average > one can only vote after about 8 years. Don't know > where you get the idea that people can vote right > away. Furthermore, I am not elegible for welfare and > social security. Only citizens are. But I still pay > social security tax, which I do not have a problem > with. This is a small price to pay to work in a stable > country. > > Keep in mind, the general idea of immigrants working > in the US is to fill jobs for which there are a > shortage of skilled workers. And yes, there had to be > a shortage. Before being able to get my green card, > my job had to be advertised in a newspaper and only > after there weren't qualifying applications from US > citizens were it determined that there is a shortage > for that particular skill. I am not sure how you > consider filling shortages as hurting the country. > You also cannot blame the INS for illegal immigrants > working here. The INS had nothing to do with them. > That is why they are illegal. > > I am sorry for going off the topic of the discussion > list, but couldn't let this one slip by. > > Regards > - Fanus > > > --- Dan Forant wrote: > > Please, let's not compare the immigrants of today > > with the past. No > > comparison. If you don't believe the INS has hurt > > the Nation in general, > > that's your right. This was a broad stroke > > statement, not just about Miami, > > but including Miami. > > > > DanF > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Worley" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:23 AM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under water > > .... > > > > > > > Dan, having lived in Miami, FL for the past 18 > > years, I take exception to > > > your statements. > > > > > > The bulk of the immigrants that have settled here > > are Cuban, and they are > > > among the most hard working people I have met. > > They are family oriented, > > and > > > welcome with open arms even very distant > > relatives, or even friends or > > > neighbors of distant relatives. They help find > > them a place to live, they > > > find them a job, they support them and ease the > > transition into a new > > > country and culture. > > > > > > I also believe one of the requirements to gain > > resident alien status is > > > proof of a job, or other means of support to > > ensure welfare will not be an > > > issue. > > > > > > I certainly would not be still living in the city > > of Miami after 18 years > > if > > > I believe it was "ruined". > > > > > > Where did you get the notion that a recent > > immigrant, legal or illegal, > > was > > > even allowed to vote? Are you forgetting that most > > present day citizens of > > > the USA were once an immigrant, or are descended > > from an immigrant? Not a > > > bad thing, I believe this cultural blend is what > > has made this country so > > > great, and made it value freedom so much. > > > > > > I would also note that typically only a very small > > percentage of the > > > citizens of the United States even bother to vote. > > Guess the ones that > > don't > > > bother are baffoons as well? > > > > > > Tom Worley > > > stkguru@netside.net > > > AIM: TexWorley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dan Forant" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > Fanus, > > > > > > > > It is a well known fact the last Administration > > let in a bunch of > > baffoons > > > > mainly so they would enroll Democrat and vote. > > Un-controlled borders > > etc. > > > > Carter did the same thing and ruined Miami Fla. > > Most of these enrolled > > > > immediately for welfare of sorts. Couldn't or > > can't speak the language > > let > > > > alone have a trade of any sort. That doesn't > > include the illegal ones > > > > including those from the troubled Middle East. > > > > > > > > DanF > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Fanus" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:28 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify your statement "The INS has > > screwed up > > > > > the makeup of our Country..." > > > > > > > > > > - Fanus > > > > > > > > > > --- Dan Forant wrote: > > > > > > Glug,glug,glug, under water is right. Enron > > may have > > > > > > put the final nail in > > > > > > the coffin for awhile. This combined with > > future > > > > > > bleak earnings spell > > > > > > trouble ahead. Kmart bumbling along with > > other bad > > > > > > news such as the SEC's > > > > > > inability to keep track of GIANTS have given > > > > > > investors a bad taste. Congress > > > > > > will bloat and gloat for months over Enron > > and I > > > > > > believe very little will be > > > > > > done about it legally. Congress is part of > > the > > > > > > problem. Campaign $$$. The > > > > > > INS has screwed up the makeup of our > > Country, the > > > > > > Government (SEC) may now > > > > > > have set back our financial markets for > > quite > > > > > > awhile.. That's why a large > > > > > > brokerage house recently said to be only 50% > > > > > > invested. But then again > > > > > > ........of course they would. > > > > > > > > > > > > DanF > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Andreas Himmelreich" > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:42 AM > > > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nasdaq Future is under water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > > canslim" or > > > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes > > in your > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > > canslim" or > > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:30:01 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: [CANSLIM] DYII Revisited--post analysis This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0166_01C19F4A.4D538500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DYII is a stock that came up for discussion on the list in early = October. This is a stock that crossed my radar, but at the time I passed = due to the poor chart action around 10/5. I have been watching it since = and was interested in what the chart might have said prior to the = failure yesterday. Here is what I saw that would have been sell signals = for me: (1) 10/5/01--tail...ominous end to attempted breakout of an 11-1/2 week = base. This is one of the reasons (along with due diligence) that I = crossed it off the list. (2) 10/8/01--gap down just before earnings-Co. press release says "short = sellers at fault" That's the goofiest reasoning I've ever heard and was = a red flag that these guys don't know what they're doing. I never like a = gap down just before an earnings announcement. It's a big red flag. If = it happens, I'll generally wait for a bounce in the next day or 2 that = begins to reverse and will sell into strength. (3) 11/26/01--Breakout from sloppy 7 wk base. So, let's say someone = bought on this breakout...let's see what comes next... (4) 11/28/01--Reversal that closes below low of previous day just after = B/O---I would take at least 50% off the table on this sell rule. (5) 12/10/01-12/12/01--3 days closing just at "pivot"--red flag....stock = has retraced to pivot, but not a sell rule in and of itself. (6) 1/3/02--promising action on high volume--ok, this action is = acceptable, might be ok afterall...but still the red flags are = there...more red flags and this one should be out of the portfolio. (7) 1/8/02-1/9/02--high volume with no progress for 2 days in a = row---last red flag in my book, if I'd held the last 50%, it would be = gone here. (8) 1/10/02--high volume tail that closes below low of previous day--if = I'd lost focus and missed the last sell, this would be the next sell = signal. (9) 1/14/02--gaps down on earnings day (earnings announced after market = close)--sell rule hit---if I'd lost focus and missed everything = else...this would be it. (10) 1/15/02--bounces, but leaves a tail on close---last chance for the = exits, a little bounce while the bargain hunters move in. Sell. (11) 1/16/02--resolution. 2:46 pm, just before market close, Herb = Greenberg article at theStreet.com points out possible accounting = shenanigans and goofy CEO/CFO nonresponse to income statement inquiries. = If I'd missed everything else and this plunged, an open protective stop = set for "catastrophic loss" would have caught this on the way down. (12) 1/16/02--Company issues response to Greenberg article after market = close. I still can't figure out why a CFO couldn't have answered these = questions when they were asked. Maybe he learned accounting somewhere = other than the US and is still learning.=20 A chart with comments is posted at: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/pub/DYII-PostAnal_011602.jpg Katherine - ------=_NextPart_000_0166_01C19F4A.4D538500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
DYII is a stock that came up for discussion on the list in early = October.=20 This is a stock that crossed my radar, but at the time I passed due to = the poor=20 chart action around 10/5. I have been watching it since and was = interested in=20 what the chart might have said prior to the failure yesterday. Here is = what I=20 saw that would have been sell signals for me:
 
(1) 10/5/01--tail...ominous end to attempted breakout of an 11-1/2 = week=20 base. This is one of the reasons (along with due diligence) that I = crossed it=20 off the list.
(2) 10/8/01--gap down just before earnings-Co. press = release=20 says "short sellers at fault" That's the goofiest reasoning I've ever = heard and=20 was a red flag that these guys don't know what they're doing. I never = like a gap=20 down just before an earnings announcement. It's a big red flag. If it = happens,=20 I'll generally wait for a bounce in the next day or 2 that begins = to=20 reverse and will sell into strength.
(3) 11/26/01--Breakout from = sloppy 7 wk=20 base. So, let's say someone bought on this breakout...let's see what = comes=20 next...
(4) 11/28/01--Reversal that closes below low of previous day = just=20 after B/O---I would take at least 50% off the table on this sell = rule.
(5)=20 12/10/01-12/12/01--3 days closing just at "pivot"--red flag....stock has = retraced to pivot, but not a sell rule in and of itself.
(6)=20 1/3/02--promising action on high volume--ok, this action is acceptable, = might be=20 ok afterall...but still the red flags are there...more red flags and = this one=20 should be out of the portfolio.
(7) 1/8/02-1/9/02--high volume with = no=20 progress for 2 days in a row---last red flag in my book, if I'd held the = last=20 50%, it would be gone here.
(8) 1/10/02--high volume tail that closes = below=20 low of previous day--if I'd lost focus and missed the last sell, this = would be=20 the next sell signal.
(9) 1/14/02--gaps down on earnings day = (earnings=20 announced after market close)--sell rule hit---if I'd lost focus and = missed=20 everything else...this would be it.
(10) 1/15/02--bounces, but leaves = a tail=20 on close---last chance for the exits, a little bounce while the bargain = hunters=20 move in. Sell.
(11) 1/16/02--resolution. 2:46 pm, just before market = close,=20 Herb Greenberg article at theStreet.com points out possible accounting=20 shenanigans and goofy CEO/CFO nonresponse to income statement inquiries. = If I'd=20 missed everything else and this plunged, an open protective stop set for = "catastrophic loss" would have caught this on the way down.
(12)=20 1/16/02--Company issues response to Greenberg article after market = close. I=20 still can't figure out why a CFO couldn't have answered these questions = when=20 they were asked. Maybe he learned accounting somewhere other than the US = and is=20 still learning.
 
A chart with comments is posted at:
http://Wa= llStreet-LLC.com/pub/DYII-PostAnal_011602.jpg
 
Katherine
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0166_01C19F4A.4D538500-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:41:19 -0800 From: "Bill Triffet" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] NMTC down grade. Excellent point Tom. I don't recall NMTC's fund ownership being so high when I first started following it in Dec ( I could be wrong). It just goes to show that one must continue to view ALL the data especially after some time has passed. I must say I'm learning much more about canslim this year (and last) when my picks fail than when it was the "instant winner" picking in '98 & '99. Thanks - -Bill - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] NMTC down grade. > But NMTC has 41% funds ownership of half the issue. Good example of the > dangers of high funds ownership, and how they all seem to follow the > Shepard. > > Tom Worley > stkguru@netside.net > AIM: TexWorley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Triffet" > To: "canslim" > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:59 AM > Subject: [CANSLIM] NMTC down grade. > > > > Amazing what a downgrade will do for a stock! I had been following this > one > > since its Dec. gap up looking for an entry. > > On a side note (just a strange observation): If you lay the 1 year charts > of > > NMTC and DYII together (I used Clearstation) they run parallel. Hmmm. > > > > -Bill > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:36:31 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] You've Been Sent An Article From The Onion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_017A_01C19F4B.3591DD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Onion | InfographicHi David, I don't remember seeing a posting from you yesterday. I'd bet it shows = up on the list sometime today. When I say "red flags" they normally mean a sell rule or sell warning = has been hit. MCAF had 3 in a row and I was out of focus...been working = on a big project due the end of the month. Just goes to show how = important it is to pay attention. To get a feel for what I'm talking = about, see the email that I just posted on "DYII revisited." Since I let = the cat out of the bag on my MCAF blunder (I actually thought I'd sent = this directly to Tom!), I'll post an analysis on that one and you can = see where my red flags were. I want to wait for the market close before = I write and post it. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: david frank=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] You've Been Sent An Article From The Onion katherine, what do you mean by 3 red flags? by the way, did you all = receive my posting-yesterday-about cutting one's loses? my email = server-Charter-was down yesterday. my posting probably wasn't that = important anyway. thank you, david ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] You've Been Sent An Article From The Onion LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!! I needed that this morning! I'm sitting here watching my MCAF plunge = into the depths of hell....Doing a post analysis and noting all the red = flags I saw and IGNORED over the last couple of weeks. Rewriting my sell = rules a bit so that it says 3 red flags =3D sell. Duh. Watching the last = 51% of gains disappear into cyberspace at the same time SYMC is sucking = all my dollars away. See me hitting my head on the desk?(next to my = iMac, BTW)...thump thump thump. Journal note: practice what you preach, = practice what you preach, practice what you preach, practice..... Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: stkguru@netside.net=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] You've Been Sent An Article From The Onion Tom Worley at stkguru@netside.net has sent you an article = from The Onion, America's Finest News Source. =20 Tom Worley included the following message: With all the hype of new technology, I got a chuckle out of = this one. =20 =20 Infographic =20 =20 =20 Click here to download a printable version of = this chart in Adobe Acrobat PDF format.=20 If you do not already have a copy of the Adobe = Acrobat Reader, you can download a free copy of the Adobe Acrobat Reader = from Adobe's home-page. =20 =20 You can also see this article online: http://www.theonion.com/onion3801/infograph_3801.html The Onion=AE is not intended for readers under 18 years of = age. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" = - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". = Do not use quotes in your email.=20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_017A_01C19F4B.3591DD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Onion | Infographic
Hi David,
 
I don't remember seeing a posting from you yesterday. I'd bet it = shows up=20 on the list sometime today.
 
When I say "red flags" they normally mean a sell rule or sell = warning has=20 been hit. MCAF had 3 in a row and I was out of focus...been working on a = big=20 project due the end of the month. Just goes to show how important it is = to pay=20 attention. To get a feel for what I'm talking about, see the email that = I just=20 posted on "DYII revisited." Since I let the cat out of the bag on my = MCAF=20 blunder (I actually thought I'd sent this directly to Tom!), I'll post = an=20 analysis on that one and you can see where my red flags were. I want to = wait for=20 the market close before I write and post it.
 
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 david frank
Sent: Thursday, January 17, = 2002 10:48=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] You've = Been Sent=20 An Article From The Onion

katherine, what do you mean by 3 red = flags? by=20 the way, did you all receive my posting-yesterday-about cutting one's = loses?=20 my email server-Charter-was down yesterday. my posting probably wasn't = that=20 important anyway. thank you, david
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Thursday, January 17, = 2002 10:00=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] You've = Been Sent=20 An Article From The Onion

LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!
 
I needed that this morning! I'm sitting here watching my MCAF = plunge=20 into the depths of hell....Doing a post analysis and noting all the = red=20 flags I saw and IGNORED over the last couple of weeks. Rewriting my = sell=20 rules a bit so that it says 3 red flags =3D sell. Duh. Watching the = last 51%=20 of gains disappear into cyberspace at the same time SYMC is sucking = all my=20 dollars away. See me hitting my head on the desk?(next to my iMac,=20 BTW)...thump thump thump. Journal note: practice what you preach, = practice=20 what you preach, practice what you preach, practice.....
 
Katherine
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 stkguru@netside.net
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Thursday, January 17, = 2002 9:52=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] You've = Been Sent=20 An Article From The Onion

Tom=20 Worley at stkguru@netside.net = has sent=20 you an article from The Onion, America's Finest News = Source.=20

Tom Worley included the following message:
With = all the=20 hype of new technology, I got a chuckle out of this = one.=20


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