From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2104 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, February 1 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2104 In this issue: TYC (was Re: [CANSLIM] POOL) Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh B'gosh gosha GLOBAL MARKET Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh B'gosh gosha Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh B'gosh gosha RE: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks [CANSLIM] reasonalble brokers Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:46:46 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: TYC (was Re: [CANSLIM] POOL) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1AA5D.B94A9DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There will always be those that think it's safe to catch a falling knife = (TYC). With so many questions regarding both its accounting and its = focus/direction, I wish the "blue light shoppers" a lot of luck. Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Eric Jaenike=20 To: canslim group=20 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] POOL For those looking to buy (myself not included), POOL (80 96 AAB) = breaking out today on what appears to be good volume. Interesting that a = consolidation play is breaking out after activity in TYC. Eric - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1AA5D.B94A9DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There will always be those that think it's safe = to catch a=20 falling knife (TYC). With so many questions regarding both its = accounting and=20 its focus/direction, I wish the "blue light shoppers" a lot of=20 luck.

Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Eric=20 Jaenike

To: canslim group

Sent: Thursday, January 31, = 2002 11:08=20 AM

Subject: [CANSLIM] POOL

For those looking to buy (myself not included), POOL (80 96 AAB) = breaking=20 out today on what appears to be good volume. Interesting that a = consolidation=20 play is breaking out after activity in TYC.

Eric

Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo= !=20 Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid=20 now! - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1AA5D.B94A9DC0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:29:31 -0800 From: esetser Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh B'gosh gosha Sorry, Katherine, but your description of the DGO EPS isn't correct. The EPS rank description says the following: "One of the five Investor's Business Daily SmartSelect=99 Corporate Ratings, this is a proprietary formula that incorporates the percentage change in the last two quarters' earnings versus the same quarters a year earlier, the 5-year growth rate and the earnings stability. All components are separately rated and weighted." So EPS rank includes both long and short term growth rates, not just the 5 year rate. =20 Now having said that, I'm not sure I disagree with your conclusion. I think it is important to look at both factors independently and chose stocks with the combination you prefer. I find quite a few stocks with good EPS ranks with so-so to bad recent quarters, and I immediately remove these from my watch lists. At 12:41 PM 1/31/02 -0600, you wrote: > Hi Steve, The 37% growth rate is a 5 year rate of growth in earnings. >You can do a quick approximation by taking 1996 earnings $0.66 * >(1.37)^5 =3D 3.19 for current year The discrepancy between the high EPS >Ranking and the lousy recent Q over Q actual EPS numbers show the >shortcoming of the EPS Ranking system. That is, based on 5 year earnings >growth, the company has outperformed 89% of other stocks. But recent >quarters tell the tale more often than not.=20 - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:43:50 -0700 From: "ds0781@miesto.sk" Subject: GLOBAL MARKET <= /HEAD>

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******* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:59:11 -0600 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh B'gosh gosha This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1AA91.C0295A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for pointing that out esetser--real lack of clarity on my part. As we don't know how DGO weights the current quarters vs. 5 years, I've = always looked at the 5 year growth and the current quarters and made my = own "assessment"--I personally place more weight on current quarters = than I believe the EPS numbers do. I do the same thing with the SMR = ratings. I prefer to look at margins, sales growth, ROE separately and = make my own conclusions, as again, we don't know "exactly" how the SMR = ratings weight these components. Sounds like we have similar habits! Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: esetser=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh B'gosh gosha Sorry, Katherine, but your description of the DGO EPS isn't correct. = The EPS rank description says the following: "One of the five Investor's Business Daily SmartSelectT Corporate = Ratings, this is a proprietary formula that incorporates the percentage change = in the last two quarters' earnings versus the same quarters a year = earlier, the 5-year growth rate and the earnings stability. All components are separately rated and weighted." So EPS rank includes both long and short term growth rates, not just = the 5 year rate. =20 Now having said that, I'm not sure I disagree with your conclusion. I think it is important to look at both factors independently and chose stocks with the combination you prefer. I find quite a few stocks = with good EPS ranks with so-so to bad recent quarters, and I immediately = remove these from my watch lists. At 12:41 PM 1/31/02 -0600, you wrote: > Hi Steve, The 37% growth rate is a 5 year rate of growth in = earnings. >You can do a quick approximation by taking 1996 earnings $0.66 * >(1.37)^5 =3D 3.19 for current year The discrepancy between the = high EPS >Ranking and the lousy recent Q over Q actual EPS numbers show the >shortcoming of the EPS Ranking system. That is, based on 5 year = earnings >growth, the company has outperformed 89% of other stocks. But recent >quarters tell the tale more often than not.=20 - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1AA91.C0295A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for pointing that out esetser--real lack of clarity on = my=20 part.

As we don't know how DGO weights the current quarters vs. 5 years, = I've=20 always looked at the 5 year growth and the current quarters and made my = own=20 "assessment"--I personally place more weight on current quarters than I = believe=20 the EPS numbers do. I do the same thing with the SMR ratings. I prefer = to look=20 at margins, sales growth, ROE separately and make my own conclusions, as = again,=20 we don't know "exactly" how the SMR ratings weight these components. = Sounds like=20 we have similar habits!

Katherine

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 esetser

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=

Sent: Thursday, January 31, = 2002 8:29=20 PM

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh = B'gosh=20 gosha

Sorry, Katherine, but your description of the DGO EPS = isn't=20 correct. The
EPS rank description says the = following:

"One of=20 the five Investor's Business Daily SmartSelectT Corporate = Ratings,
this is=20 a proprietary formula that incorporates the percentage change = in
the last=20 two quarters' earnings versus the same quarters a year earlier,
the = 5-year=20 growth rate and the earnings stability. All components = are
separately rated=20 and weighted."

So EPS rank includes both long and short term = growth=20 rates, not just the 5
year rate.

Now having said = that, I'm=20 not sure I disagree with your conclusion. I
think it is = important to=20 look at both factors independently and chose
stocks with the = combination=20 you prefer. I find quite a few stocks with
good EPS ranks = with so-so=20 to bad recent quarters, and I immediately remove
these from my = watch=20 lists.

At 12:41 PM 1/31/02 -0600, you=20 wrote:
> Hi Steve, The 37% growth rate = is a 5=20 year rate of growth in earnings.
>You can do a quick = approximation=20 by taking 1996 earnings $0.66 *
>(1.37)^5 =3D = 3.19 for=20 current year The discrepancy between the high=20 EPS
>Ranking and the lousy recent Q over Q actual EPS = numbers show=20 the
>shortcoming of the EPS Ranking system. That is, based on = 5 =20 year earnings
>growth, the company has outperformed 89% of other = stocks.=20 But recent
>quarters tell the tale more often than not.=20

-
-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"
-In= the=20 email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
-"unsubscribe = canslim". Do=20 not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1AA91.C0295A80-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:56:16 EST From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Oskosh B'gosh gosha Katherine: I've always wondered how WON could-in all analytical good conscience-lump Sales+(Profit) Margins+ROE together. One of those equations being CANSLIM does not mean that all of them are. For instance, you can have fine profit margins, but lousy sales growth (because margins are so robust). Also, ROE has little (at least I can't think of any) relationship to Sale or Profits-except, perhaps, that ROE uses Net Income in the numerator. Thus a stock can have fine Sales and Margins, but a laggard ROE. jans In a message dated 1/31/2002 8:58:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, kmalm@earthlink.net writes: << ...I do the same thing with the SMR ratings. I prefer to look at margins, sales growth, ROE separately and make my own conclusions, as again, we don't know "exactly" how the SMR ratings weight these components. Sounds like we have similar habits! >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:22:55 -0600 From: "John Adair" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1AAA5.D5330160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tom do you mind telling me who you use for a broker. I am looking to find a broker more reasonable than Schwab. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:59 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks Hi Khalifa, I believe schwab operates worldwide. You might want to try them. Their trades are more expensive ($30) but generally I have found them reliable. http://www.schwab.com/ Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message ----- From: K.M Omer To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks Hi all, I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from overseas.I try etrade.com but it want social security number and applocant must be us residents. Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to participate in stock markets give me the web address. Thanks all in advance. khalifa _____ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1AAA5.D5330160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi= Tom do you mind telling me who you use for a broker. I am looking to find a = broker more reasonable than Schwab.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Wednesday, January = 30, 2002 4:59 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = how can non-US residents trade US stocks

Hi Khalifa,

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I believe schwab operates worldwide. You might want to try them. Their = trades are more expensive ($30) but generally I have found them = reliable.<= /p>

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http://www.schwab.com/<= font color=3Dblack><= /p>

<= /p>

Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM: TexWorley

----- Original Message -----

From: K.M Omer =

=

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com

Sent: Wednesday, = January 30, 2002 4:56 AM

Subject: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks

<= /p>

<= /p>

Hi = all, <= /p>

I = have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in finding the = answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from overseas.I try etrade.com but = it want social security number and applocant must be us = residents.<= /p>

Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to participate in = stock markets give me the web address.<= /p>

Thanks all in advance.

khalifa<= /p>

<= /p>

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- ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1AAA5.D5330160-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:24:21 -0600 From: Ronald 9 Davis Subject: [CANSLIM] reasonalble brokers This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C1AAAE.69D3BC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, I don't know how often you trade, however, = www.interactivebrokers.com is probably the most reasonable available. = They cater to day traders, pay no interest on the first $10,000 of idle funds, and the last I heard, they don't = allow you to reinvest sale proceeds immediately after having made a = sale. I have only made a few trades with them because I am still busy = developing a systematic swingtrading plan. when I complete my plan, I = will be trading several times a day, and their inexpensive commissions, = will really be a benefit. A few people at our Saturday Brookhaven = meetings use Interactive Brokers. Ron Davis, a former Okie. - ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C1AAAE.69D3BC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John, I don't know how often you trade, = however, www.interactivebrokers.com= is=20 probably the most reasonable available. They cater to day traders, = pay no=20 interest

on the first $10,000 of idle funds, and = the last I=20 heard, they don't allow you to reinvest sale proceeds immediately after = having=20 made a sale. I have only made a few trades with them because I am = still=20 busy developing a systematic swingtrading plan. when I complete my = plan, I=20 will be trading several times a day, and their inexpensive commissions, = will=20 really be a benefit. A few people at our Saturday Brookhaven = meetings use=20 Interactive Brokers. Ron Davis, a former=20 Okie.

- ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C1AAAE.69D3BC80-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:00:17 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1AAC4.3275D6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, I use Schwab. I don't do enough trades where the $30 per trade = cost bothers me. I value reliable access and accuracy and good trade = execution, and have had that with Schwab even with some disputes over = margining of stocks.=20 Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Adair=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks Hi Tom do you mind telling me who you use for a broker. I am looking = to find a broker more reasonable than Schwab. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:59 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks =20 Hi Khalifa, =20 I believe schwab operates worldwide. You might want to try them. Their = trades are more expensive ($30) but generally I have found them = reliable. =20 http://www.schwab.com/ =20 Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: K.M Omer=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] how can non-US residents trade US stocks =20 =20 Hi all,=20 I have only one question I want the member of this list to help me in = finding the answer.My question is how can non-US residents trade = american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online can accept applicants from = overseas.I try etrade.com but it want social security number and = applocant must be us residents. Please if you know any broker online can accept non american to = participate in stock markets give me the web address. Thanks all in advance. khalifa - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click = Here - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the = email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not = use quotes in your email.=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1AAC4.3275D6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John, I use Schwab. I don't do enough trades = where the $30=20 per trade cost bothers me. I value reliable access and accuracy and good = trade=20 execution, and have had that with Schwab even with some disputes over = margining=20 of stocks.

Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 John=20 Adair
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=

Sent: Thursday, January 31, = 2002 11:22=20 PM

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] how can = non-US=20 residents trade US stocks

Hi Tom=20 do you mind telling me who you use for a broker. I am looking to find = a broker=20 more reasonable than Schwab.

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmis= sion.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On=20 Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, = 2002 4:59=20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] how can = non-US=20 residents trade US stocks

Hi=20 Khalifa,

I=20 believe schwab operates worldwide. You might want to try them. Their = trades=20 are more expensive ($30) but generally I have found them=20 reliable.

http://www.schwab.com/<= FONT=20 color=3Dblack>

Tom=20 Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley

----- = Original=20 Message -----

From: K.M Omer =

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20

Sent: = Wednesday, January=20 30, 2002 4:56 AM

Subject: [CANSLIM] = how can=20 non-US residents trade US stocks

Hi all,
I have only one question I = want the=20 member of this list to help me in finding the answer.My question is = how can=20 non-US residents trade american stocks?Iwant to know brokers online = can accept=20 applicants from overseas.I try etrade.com but it want social security = number=20 and applocant must be us residents.
Please if you know any = broker=20 online can accept non american to participate in stock markets give me = the web=20 address.
Thanks all in=20 advance.
khalifa

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