From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2431 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Saturday, May 18 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2431 In this issue: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) RE: [CANSLIM] Update "A" + "B" charts from IBD Acc/Dis now available. Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) RE: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 08:52:39 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) Rich, apparently sometime in the past three hours, DGO version 4.0 was updated (I have had it open since 6 AM). I am writing CustServ about this, to find out which version is updated first. But I suspect the web site is being updated faster, since it's the "new kid on the block" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich W" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:45 AM Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) Tom, Do you mean that now I should only be using the link from web site? I have always used the shortcut on my desk top, but maybe I need to change they did send me something about the fact that after July 31, ver 4 is no longer supported, but so far never have switched, but after this I better look into it. I know I will not get the other extra items now, unless they offer better discounts. Thanks for you help again, you seem to keep us all straight Rich Weinhold 636-240-7267 AAII CISIG Group. STL Stock Analysis Group Coordinator - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 07:55:02 -0500 From: "Rich W" Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C1FE41.50F6B780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Katherine, I wish that your message can in before I sent my last one, that seems to = answer some of the odd things going on, and just read tom's note( now 2 of = them), so very funny things going on here, but somehow it will be taken = care of. Need to sign off as our group has the monthly meeting today will have to see what is going on in a hour with all of you. Rich Weinhold =20 636-240-7267 AAII CISIG Group.=20 STL Stock Analysis Group Coordinator ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) Tom, I took a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last night and = it showed the 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows = the new numbers. Just goes to show how dramatically earnings estimates = can change and I think also supports the notion that the technicals more = often tell the tale of what's going on than the forward estimates or = past fundamentals alone. Katherine - ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C1FE41.50F6B780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Katherine,
I wish that your message can in before I sent my = last one,=20 that seems to answer
some of the odd things going on, and just read = tom's note(=20 now 2 of them), so very funny things going on = here, but=20 somehow it will be taken care of.
Need to sign off as our group has the monthly = meeting=20 today
will have to see what is going on in a hour with = all of=20 you.
 
 
Rich Weinhold 
636-240-7267
AAII CISIG Group.
STL = Stock=20 Analysis
Group  Coordinator
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 = 7:40=20 AM
Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: = [CANSLIM] our=20 stuff)

Tom,
 
I took a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last = night and it=20 showed the 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows = the new=20 numbers. Just goes to show how dramatically earnings estimates can = change and=20 I think also supports the notion that the technicals more often tell = the tale=20 of what's going on than the forward estimates or past fundamentals=20 alone.
 
Katherine
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C1FE41.50F6B780-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 08:07:17 -0500 From: "Fred Richards" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Update "A" + "B" charts from IBD Acc/Dis now available. They aren't. It takes a lot of work to find them. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jack Tencza Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:04 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Update "A" + "B" charts from IBD Acc/Dis now available. Thanks Fred. Where in the IBD are the 10 companies listed? Thanks - --- Fred Richards wrote: > There are only a few companies that meet a screen > where they have an "A" in > the Acc/Dis column and a combined total of 194 when > you add the IBD EPS and > RS numbers. Out of all the companies in the IBD > database there were only 10 > companies on Thursday. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf > Of Jack Tencza > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:07 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Update "A" + "B" charts from > IBD Acc/Dis now > available. > > > Fred, can you steer me to a definition/significance > of > the "+194" added to the A/D? I couldn't find > anything > in the IBD or Adrich websites. The charts are > interesting, thanks for sharing them. > --- Fred Richards wrote: > > We have posted to the site the updated Acc/Dis > > charts from IBD. > > > > http://www.adrich.com/SI/Info/A's.htm > > > > Fred Richards > > > > Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more > > corrupt a republic, the > > more laws.] - - Tacitus, Annuals III 27 > > > > www.adrich.com > > > > > > > ===== > Jack > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your > email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ===== Jack __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 09:06:01 -0400 From: "William King" Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) Rich, I switched from ver 4 to the online at no additional cost a few weeks ago. Bill King - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich W" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:45 AM Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) > Tom, > Do you mean that now I should only be using the link from web site? > I have always used the shortcut on my desk top, but maybe I need to change > they did send me something about the fact that after July 31, ver 4 is no > longer > supported, but so far never have switched, but after this I better look > into it. > I know I will not get the other extra items now, unless they offer better > discounts. > Thanks for you help again, you seem to keep us all straight > > Rich Weinhold > 636-240-7267 > AAII CISIG Group. > STL Stock Analysis > Group Coordinator > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 08:06:19 -0500 From: "Hill, Ernie" Subject: RE: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FE6C.CD0C1A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Katherine, you wrote: <<"I think also supports the notion that the technicals more often tell the tale of what's going on than the forward estimates or past fundamentals alone.">> There are those in the world of TA that would say everything you need to know is contained in the price movement of a stock. I of course disagree. Fundamentals give the technical analyst hints as to which set of probabilities are more likely to occur than others. However, if the technicals don't support the fundamentals I will go with the technicals every time. It usually means there are people out there that know a lot more about the stock in question than what is contained in a financial statement or some Wall Street analysts projections. E PS: I want to make sure I am not misinterpreted. While if the technicals do not support the fundamentals I will believe the technicals instead, I will not make stock purchases unless the technicals and the fundamentals are in agreement. - -----Original Message----- From: Katherine Malm [mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:40 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) Tom, I took a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last night and it showed the 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows the new numbers. Just goes to show how dramatically earnings estimates can change and I think also supports the notion that the technicals more often tell the tale of what's going on than the forward estimates or past fundamentals alone. Katherine - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:35 AM Subject: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) The difference is in which version of DGO you are using, the new version has the +46%, 2.00 est for 2002 and -6%, 1.86 for 2003. I realize they are no longer supporting version 4.0 after May, very surprised that they would abandon the data quality already. I am reporting it for verification as to which version has correct data. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich W" < rich1334@brick.net > To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff Bill, and Tom, I got some thing else for ANFI 2002 2.00 est. +46% 2003 1.83 est -7% And I have Ver 4 for the last Q .72 vs .26 = +177% From DGO, but when I went to the book, page 42 , it had what Tom had noted so why is there such difference, very odd, what do you guy's think now Rich Weinhold 636-240-7267 AAII CISIG Group. STL Stock Analysis Group Coordinator - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" < stkguru@bellsouth.net > To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff Hi Bill, DGO version 4 shows 1.39 (+1%) for 2002 and 1.36 (-2%) for 2003 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "William King" < wk11@adelphia.net > To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff Tom, Re ANFI - I'm confused. I read the earnings forecast from DGO as +46 for 2002 and -8 for 2003. Am I reading the data boxes wrong? Thanks, Bill King - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" < stkguru@bellsouth.net > To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > yes, DGO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marty" < majorgenson@attbi.com > > To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > > > Where did you find the earning forecast? from DGO if so where? > > Marty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Worley" < stkguru@bellsouth.net > > To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > > > > Ian, > > > > ANFI has a very weak earnings forecast (1% this year, -1% next). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ian" < ianstm@shaw.ca > > > To: < canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > > > > > > Not in my little CANSLIM universe. I had an wonderfully strong week. > > > > My ticker list even includes some with 'real' prices. I'll throw out a few > > here for the groups weekend perusal, admitting that I haven't checked > their > > IBD numbers, only their most recent earnings reports, outlooks, valuations > > and charts: > > > > 'Real' prices: > > > > EXAC > > GLYN > > GRMN > > LABS > > RMCI > > SRT > > > > 'Almost' prices: > > ALU > > ANFI > > APFC > > FBAY > > FSTW > > ISIG > > > > > > 'Too low' prices: > > CTIB > > CVU > > SMAN > > TWH > > > > > > If you want to get a feel for how the market is rewarding microcaps that > > suddenly start to perform, check out the monthly charts for CVU, CTIB and > > FSTW. They are amazing to watch. > > > > Ian > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email " majordomo@xmission.com " > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Katherine, you wrote:

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<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>There are those in the world of TA th= at would say everything you need to know is contained in the price movement of= a stock. I of course disagree. Fundamentals give the technical analyst hints = as to which set of probabilities are more likely to occur than others. However= , if the technicals don’t support the fundamentals I will go with the tech= nicals every time. It usually means there are people out there that know a lot more about the stock in question than what is contained in a financial statement= or some Wall Street analysts projections.

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<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>E

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'> 

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>PS: I want to make sure I am not misi= nterpreted. While if the technicals do not support the fundamentals I will believe the technicals instead, I will not make stock purchases unless the technicals a= nd the fundamentals are in agreement.=

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Malm [mailto= :kmalm@earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002= 7:40 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.c= om
Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff)

 

Tom,<= /span>

 = ;

I too= k a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last night and it showed the= 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows the new numbers. Just goes to s= how how dramatically earnings estimates can change and I think also supports the notion that the technicals more often tell the tale of what's going on than= the forward estimates or past fundamentals alone.

 = ;

Kathe= rine

----- Original Message -----

=  

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com

Sent: Saturday, May 18,= 2002 7:35 AM

Subject: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff)

 

The difference is in which version of DGO you are using, the new version has
the +46%, 2.00 est for 2002 and -6%, 1.86 for 2003.

I realize they are no longer supporting version 4.0 after May, very
surprised that they would abandon the data quality already. I am reporting<= br> it for verification as to which version has correct data.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich W" <rich1334= @brick.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmissio= n.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff


Bill, and Tom,
I got some thing else for ANFI
2002  2.00 est.  +46%
2003  1.83 est   -7%
And I have Ver 4

for the last Q .72 vs .26  =3D +177%
From DGO, but when I went to the book, page 42 , it had what Tom  had noted
so why is there such difference, very odd, what do you guy's think now

Rich Weinhold
636-240-7267
AAII CISIG Group.
STL Stock Analysis
Group  Coordinator
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Worley" <s= tkguru@bellsouth.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmissio= n.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff


Hi Bill,

DGO version 4 shows 1.39 (+1%) for 2002 and 1.36 (-2%) for 2003

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "William King" <wk1= 1@adelphia.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmissio= n.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff


Tom,
Re ANFI - I'm confused. I read the earnings forecast from DGO as +46 for
2002 and -8 for 2003. Am I reading the data boxes wrong?

Thanks,
Bill King
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Worley" <s= tkguru@bellsouth.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmissio= n.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff


> yes, DGO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marty" <m= ajorgenson@attbi.com>
> To: <canslim@lists.xm= ission.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
>
>
> Where did you find the earning forecast? from DGO if so where?
>
> Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
> To: <canslim@lists.xm= ission.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
>
>
> > Ian,
> >
> > ANFI has a very weak earnings forecast (1% this year, -1% next).<= br> > >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ian" <ianst= m@shaw.ca>
> > To: <canslim@lis= ts.xmission.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
> >
> >
> > Not in my little CANSLIM universe. I had an wonderfully strong we= ek.
> >
> > My ticker list even includes some with 'real' prices. I'll throw = out a
few
> > here for the groups weekend perusal, admitting that I haven't che= cked
> their
> > IBD numbers, only their most recent earnings reports, outlooks, valuations
> > and charts:
> >
> > 'Real' prices:
> >
> > EXAC
> > GLYN
> > GRMN
> > LABS
> > RMCI
> > SRT
> >
> > 'Almost' prices:
> > ALU
> > ANFI
> > APFC
> > FBAY
> > FSTW
> > ISIG
> >
> >
> > 'Too low' prices:
> > CTIB
> > CVU
> > SMAN
> > TWH
> >
> >
> > If you want to get a feel for how the market is rewarding microca= ps that
> > suddenly start to perform, check out the monthly charts for CVU, = CTIB
and
> > FSTW. They are amazing to watch.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
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