From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2474 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, May 31 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2474 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] Online trading Re: [CANSLIM] semi-log DGO? Re: [CANSLIM] CAKE Re: [CANSLIM] Healthcare breakouts [CANSLIM] MIK RE: [CANSLIM] MIK Re: [CANSLIM] M update ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 05:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve F Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Online trading True, Ameritrade will on charge for once if it takes partial fills, as long as they are all done in one day. Steve - --- "Hill, Ernie" wrote: > Not true I use Ameritrade and my last trade was > accomplished as three > partial fills. I was only charged one commission $13 > for a limit order. > > E > > -----Original Message----- > From: DBell0467@aol.com [mailto:DBell0467@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:58 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Online trading > > Barring the merger between Ameritrade & Datek, one > of Datek`s features is if > I order 400 shares limit $10 and it takes 3 > transactions to get my total > shares. ex. 100@10 200@10 100@10 datek charges a > total of $9.99, ameritrade > would charge $39 > > Arthur > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your > email. > > > ****************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it from > the ElPaso > Corporation are confidential and intended solely for > the > use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > If you have received this email in error please > notify the > sender. > ****************************************************************** > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:53:39 -0500 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] semi-log DGO? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C20878.46C97220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave, The numeric interval is based on arithmetic scaling for daily and = intraday charts, and logarithmic scaling for weekly charts. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Canslim Dave=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:52 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] semi-log DGO? Is there any way to display DGO charts in semi-log? I find it very = strange that they are not displayed that way. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C20878.46C97220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Hi Dave,

The numeric interval is based on arithmetic scaling for daily and = intraday=20 charts, and logarithmic scaling for weekly charts.

 

Katherine

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Canslim=20 Dave
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 = 12:52 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] semi-log = DGO?

Is there any way to display DGO charts in semi-log?  I find it = very=20 strange that they are not displayed that way.



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Yahoo= ! -=20 Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C20878.46C97220-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:43:05 -0500 From: "Alicia Lensing" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CAKE This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2087F.2E8A0060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom: Thanks for pointing out the H&S pattern. I suppose I will not stick = around for a second helping of CAKE> Alicia ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CAKE Hi Alicia, Chart wise (on a daily chart) we may be seeing a head and shoulders = pattern in progress. If so, then definitely not the time to be buying = CAKE I note a trailing PE of 46, and a projected PE of 38, both well above = the S&P500, and makes it more vulnerable in a market correction (which = we certainly have right now, at a minimum). I also note that management only owns 9%, while funds own 31%. That's = too low on the first, and well too high on the second, for my tastes, = especially in a poor "M". ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alicia Lensing=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] CAKE I am wondering about CAKE now. It was a nice buy a few months back, = but as I look at the weekly chart, I am thinking that it may be in a = topping pattern. Any thoughts? The restaurant industry still seems to = be strong, and CAKE still is growing... =20 Thank you, Alicia - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2087F.2E8A0060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom:
 
Thanks = for pointing=20 out the H&S pattern.  I suppose I will not stick around for a = second=20 helping of CAKE>
 
Alicia
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 = 9:51=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = CAKE

Hi Alicia,
 
Chart wise (on a daily chart) we may be seeing = a head=20 and shoulders pattern in progress. If so, then definitely not the time = to be=20 buying CAKE
 
I note a trailing PE of 46, and a projected PE = of 38,=20 both well above the S&P500, and makes it more vulnerable in a = market=20 correction (which we certainly have right now, at a = minimum).
 
I also note that management only owns 9%, = while funds=20 own 31%. That's too low on the first, and well too high on the second, = for my=20 tastes, especially in a poor "M".
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Alicia=20 Lensing
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] CAKE

I am = wondering=20 about CAKE now. It was a nice buy a few months back, but as I look at = the=20 weekly chart, I am thinking that it may be in a topping pattern.  = Any=20 thoughts? The restaurant industry still seems to be strong, and CAKE = still is=20 growing... 
 
Thank = you,
 
Alicia
- ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2087F.2E8A0060-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:15:59 -0700 From: Neal Frankle Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Healthcare breakouts This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C20873.03E07C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message"they" becomes "we". its just a matter of time Duke. Neal ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Duke Miller=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:44 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Healthcare breakouts Yes, Katherine, and the growth of that "market" IS a SURE thing. No matter how much = they try (speaking for myself, mind you), they ARE going to get older, = they ARE going to need more pills, parts, and pampers...and somebody has = to take care of all 75,000,000 of them(us)!! As for bio, I'm in the = same frame of mind you are: one little fly gets in the ointment...FDA, = for instance...and oh, those trials...one glitch and it's history. Duke -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:49 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Healthcare breakouts Hi Duke, No specific comments on the stocks you mention, but a more general = comment on the Healthcare sector which, as a whole, is as strong as a = horse. Better yet, healthcare fits your recently mentioned macrotheme = and a very important secular trend in my mind, i.e., healthcare for the = baby boomers. I've been chomping at the bit to play biotechs for = ....well....forever, but looks like the more mundane aspects of the = sector are the best way to play the theme--services, supplies, = healthcare providers, etc. While it might not be as thrilling as a cure = for cancer or the mapping of the human genome, growth is growth and hard = to ignore. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Duke Miller=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Healthcare breakouts I just did a quick look-see on the leaders. HCA looks best of = them, but get a load of the institutions numbers. HCA, 75% held by = 1397; PRHC, 95% by 45; THC, 94% by 1574. I'm going to do more digging = on HCA and THC, both with the better ROE. (Did not include TRI...over = extended for now.) Anyone care to comment on these? Duke -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of J. Lobatto Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:40 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Healthcare breakouts A number of the healthcare stocks (OXHP, UNH) are calmly = breaking out today following on Triad (TRI) yesterday. TRI broke out on = impressive volume, the others today are a bit weak on volume, but it = does appear the group is for real. Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C20873.03E07C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
"they" becomes "we".  its just a = matter of=20 time Duke.
 
Neal
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Duke=20 Miller
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 = 7:44=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Healthcare=20 breakouts

Yes,=20 Katherine,
 
and the = growth of that=20 "market" IS a SURE thing.  No matter how much they try = (speaking for=20 myself, mind you), they ARE going to get older, they ARE going to need = more=20 pills, parts, and pampers...and somebody has to take care of all = 75,000,000 of=20 them(us)!!  As for bio, I'm in the same frame of mind you = are: one=20 little fly gets in the ointment...FDA, for instance...and oh, those=20 trials...one glitch and it's history.
 
Duke
 
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Thursday, May 30, = 2002 7:49=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM]=20 Healthcare breakouts

Hi Duke,
 
No specific comments on the stocks you mention, but a more = general=20 comment on the Healthcare sector which, as a whole, is as strong as = a horse.=20 Better yet, healthcare fits your recently mentioned macrotheme and=20 a very important secular trend in my mind, i.e., healthcare for = the=20 baby boomers. I've been chomping at the bit to play biotechs for=20 ....well....forever, but looks like the more mundane aspects of the = sector=20 are the best way to play the theme--services, supplies, healthcare=20 providers, etc. While it might not be as thrilling as a cure for = cancer or=20 the mapping of the human genome, growth is growth and hard to = ignore.
 
Katherine
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Duke Miller
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Thursday, May 30, = 2002 6:42=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = Healthcare=20 breakouts

I just = did a quick=20 look-see on the leaders.  HCA looks best of them, but get a = load of=20 the institutions numbers.  HCA, 75% held by 1397; PRHC, 95% = by 45;=20 THC, 94% by 1574.  I'm going to do more digging on HCA and = THC, both=20 with the better ROE.  (Did not include TRI...over extended = for=20 now.)
 
Anyone = care to=20 comment on these?
 
Duke
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of J. = Lobatto
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:40 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = Healthcare=20 breakouts

A number of the = healthcare stocks=20 (OXHP, UNH) are calmly breaking out today following on = Triad=20 (TRI) yesterday. TRI broke out on impressive volume, the others = today=20 are a bit weak on volume, but it does appear the group is for=20 real.
 
Jon
- ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C20873.03E07C60-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:29:08 -0500 From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com Subject: [CANSLIM] MIK Okay group, I have a position in MIK, and today, it is flying, up 12% at this point, which is giving me a 8% gain from my entry. Do you think I should hang on to this one, or sell it at the end of the day at take a profit? Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:58:30 -0500 From: "Kelly Short" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] MIK Mike, I have been following MIK for several weeks now- they have had good = performance every quarter since existence. I'm starting to remember the = definition of blue chips when I think of MIK. I'd check into it- you may = have a long term keeper. - -Kelly - -----Original Message----- From: michael_niemotka@baxter.com [mailto:michael_niemotka@baxter.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:29 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] MIK Okay group, I have a position in MIK, and today, it is flying, up 12% at this point, which is giving me a 8% gain from my entry. Do you think I should hang = on to this one, or sell it at the end of the day at take a profit? Mike Niemotka , PE Sr. Principal Engineer Baxter Healthcare Corporation Route 120 & Wilson Road Round Lake, IL 60073 Tel (847) 270-4075 Fax (847) 270-4525 michael_niemotka@baxter.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. _________________________________________________________________________= ___ For your protection, this e-mail message has been scanned for viruses. Visit us at http://www.neoris.com/ - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:58:55 -0400 From: "Bert Pesak" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] M update This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2089A.8A0367E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ernie, I would like to have a better understanding of the process you are using = to make your projections. Could you recommend some reading material on the process you are using. Thanks Bert Pesak bpesak@rcn.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hill, Ernie=20 To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:22 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] M update I have included my last forecast at the end of this post for reference = purposes. =20 The S&P entered my low turn time window yesterday and hit a lower = probability target price of 1054 today also the NAZ, SPX, & the RUT all = had price reversals today or if you prefer =93pollywogs=94 (I am not a = candle stick reader so I am not sure if the volume was there to actually = produce =93pollywogs=94 or not, but today was a reversal day for all of = these indexes in my terminology none the less). =20 Despite hitting a price target and creating a reversal bar on the same = day I still believe that we have not quite yet reached the bottom of = this move. My higher probability price target range still makes for a = more complete technical package. Although, I think given the current = price structure the lower part of my target range is not likely to be = reached in fact 1035 =96 1038 is more likely to be the bottom. =20 If in fact today was the bottom of the current down swing there is a = strong possibility that M will advance for a couple of days and then = challenge today=92s low later in the low turn time window which closes = on 6-10. =20 Duke it could be getting very close to time to indulge your = =93burn=94. =20 E =20 -----Original Message----- From: Hill, Ernie=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:37 PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] M =20 It appears that the high turn has been made. On 5-17 we closed at = 1106.59 and then again touched that level on an intra-day basis = yesterday. The turn has apparently come early in the window just 4.41 = points shy of the projected price level. There is a reasonable = possibility that the market will move back up near the turn high over = the next couple of days before resuming the move down. There is a small = chance that the market may even slightly exceed the high and actually = make the turn later in the window. If this happens don=92t be fooled it = is only a head fake. =20 The next low turn has two possible time windows for the turn. The = first and most likely window is within four days of 6-4. The target = price range is 1027 to 1034. 1.382 times the move from 5-7 to 5-17 = yields 79.51 points subtract this number from the high of 1106.59 and we = arrive at the low target of 1027.08. A 61.8% retracement of the move = from 9-21 to 1-9 yields a target price of 1033.46. If this projected = down move does terminate in the projected target range, it has the = potential to be the end point of the correction for the entire move from = 9-21 to 1-9. And could set the stage for a significant and sustainable = move up. =20 E =20 =20 ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso=20 Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the=20 use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.=20 If you have received this email in error please notify the=20 sender. ****************************************************************** - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2089A.8A0367E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ernie,
 
I would like to have a better understanding of the = process you=20 are using to make your projections.
Could you recommend some reading material on the = process you=20 are using.
 
Thanks
Bert Pesak
bpesak@rcn.com
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hill,=20 Ernie
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 = 9:22=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] M = update

I have=20 included my last forecast at the end of this post for reference=20 purposes.

 

The=20 S&P entered my low turn time window yesterday and hit a lower = probability=20 target price of 1054 today also the NAZ, SPX, & the RUT all had = price=20 reversals today or if you prefer =93pollywogs=94 (I am not a candle = stick reader=20 so I am not sure if the volume was there to actually produce = =93pollywogs=94 or=20 not, but today was a reversal day for all of these indexes in my = terminology=20 none the less).

 

Despite=20 hitting a price target and creating a reversal bar on the same day I = still=20 believe that we have not quite yet reached the bottom of this move. My = higher=20 probability price target range still makes for a more complete = technical=20 package. Although, I think given the current price structure the lower = part of=20 my target range is not likely to be reached in fact 1035 =96 1038 is = more likely=20 to be the bottom.

 

If in=20 fact today was the bottom of the current down swing there is a strong=20 possibility that M will advance for a couple of days and then = challenge=20 today=92s low later in the low turn time window which closes on=20 6-10.

 

Duke=20 it could be getting very close to time to indulge your=20 =93burn=94.

 

E

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Hill,=20 Ernie
Sent: = Tuesday, May 21,=20 2002 8:37 PM
To:=20 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM]=20 M

 

It=20 appears that the high turn has been made. On 5-17 we closed at 1106.59 = and=20 then again touched that level on an intra-day basis yesterday. The = turn has=20 apparently come early in the window just 4.41 points shy of the = projected=20 price level. There is a reasonable possibility that the market will = move back=20 up near the turn high over the next couple of days before resuming the = move=20 down. There is a small chance that the market may even slightly exceed = the=20 high and actually make the turn later in the window. If this happens = don=92t be=20 fooled it is only a head fake.

 

The=20 next low turn has two possible time windows for the turn. The first = and most=20 likely window is within four days of 6-4. The target price range is = 1027 to=20 1034. 1.382 times the move from 5-7 to 5-17 yields 79.51 points = subtract this=20 number from the high of 1106.59 and we arrive at the low target of = 1027.08. A=20 61.8% retracement of the move from 9-21 to 1-9 yields a target price = of=20 1033.46. If this projected down move does terminate in the projected = target=20 range, it has the potential to be the end point of the correction for = the=20 entire move from 9-21 to 1-9. And could set the stage for a = significant and=20 sustainable move up.

 

E

 

 



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