From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2494 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, June 14 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2494 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 23:19:50 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C21330.D0EBFDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as consistently and = predictably and accurately as the "law of gravity" - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chazmoore@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History Fanus: You make very good points, and of course much of what I do is = based on past experiences. (I do not stick my fingers in a fire although = I may have as a child.) The point I was trying to make is that chance = cannot be eliminated from the market. Using WON methods I correctly = predicted the last two rallies. However, I could not predict the short = duration of the rallies.=20 History may let us narrow the possible results but it does not let us = know the result.=20 Charley=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C21330.D0EBFDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as = consistently=20 and predictably and accurately as the "law of gravity"
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chazmoore@aol.com=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History

Fanus: You = make very good=20 points, and of course much of what I do is based on past experiences. (I = do not=20 stick my fingers in a fire although I may have as a child.) The point I = was=20 trying to make is that chance cannot be eliminated from the market. = Using WON=20 methods I correctly predicted the last two rallies. However, I could not = predict=20 the short duration of the rallies.
History may let us narrow the = possible=20 results but it does not let us know the result.
Charley
=20
- ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C21330.D0EBFDC0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:52:34 -1000 From: "Mike Gibbons" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C2131C.3E759320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah, yes, but even the Newtonian Law of Gravity (the one to which I assume you are referring) was subject to revision by Einstein ( and is still not finally determined). Which only shows that the laws of physics, as well as those of economics, are subject to the best interpretation available based on the sum of human knowledge and experience at the time. At least for now, when it comes to breakouts, we can apparantly affirm that what goes up must come down. Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:20 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as consistently and predictably and accurately as the "law of gravity" ----- Original Message ----- From: Chazmoore@aol.com To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History Fanus: You make very good points, and of course much of what I do is based on past experiences. (I do not stick my fingers in a fire although I may have as a child.) The point I was trying to make is that chance cannot be eliminated from the market. Using WON methods I correctly predicted the last two rallies. However, I could not predict the short duration of the rallies. History may let us narrow the possible results but it does not let us know the result. Charley - ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C2131C.3E759320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah,=20 yes, but even the Newtonian Law of Gravity (the one to which I = assume=20 you are referring) was subject to revision by Einstein ( and is still = not=20 finally determined). Which only shows that the laws of physics, as well = as those=20 of economics, are subject to the best interpretation available based on = the sum=20 of human knowledge and experience at the time.
 
At=20 least for now, when it comes to breakouts, we can apparantly affirm that = what=20 goes up must come down.
 
Aloha,
 
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, = LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Worley
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

if only we had a "law" of "M" that worked as=20 consistently and predictably and accurately as the "law of=20 gravity"
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chazmoore@aol.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History

Fanus: You = make very=20 good points, and of course much of what I do is based on past = experiences. (I=20 do not stick my fingers in a fire although I may have as a child.) The = point I=20 was trying to make is that chance cannot be eliminated from the = market. Using=20 WON methods I correctly predicted the last two rallies. However, I = could not=20 predict the short duration of the rallies.
History may let us = narrow the=20 possible results but it does not let us know the result. =
Charley
=20
- ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C2131C.3E759320-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:01:07 -0400 From: "Dan Forant" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C21379.A36B8B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ummm, 5% is a single digit ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hill, Ernie=20 To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History I believe what he said was single digit growth. =20 E =20 -----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History =20 Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20 =20 DanF ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hill, Ernie=20 To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History =20 I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen = two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" = floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made = reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market = that ended in 2000 began in 1983. =20 They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. = buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the = way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how = the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing. =20 Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either = interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods = and how the market related to the economy during those time periods. =20 However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next = 15 years! =20 E=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History =20 Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the = short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to = better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of = resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would = appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past = for such purposes.=20 =20 Kelly Short =20 Business Development Manager Neoris, Inc. (817) 731-0995 mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com http://www.neoris.com =20 =20 - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso=20 Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the=20 use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.=20 If you have received this email in error please notify the=20 sender. ****************************************************************** ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso=20 Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the=20 use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.=20 If you have received this email in error please notify the=20 sender. ****************************************************************** - ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C21379.A36B8B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hill,=20 Ernie
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'= =20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 = 10:13=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" = History

I believe = what he=20 said was single digit growth.

 

E

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Dan Forant=20 [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent:
Thursday, June 13,=20 2002 = 8:24=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

 

Didn't Buffer also = predict just 5%=20 market growth for years to come??

 

DanF

----- Original Message = - -----=20

From: Hill,=20 Ernie

To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'= =20

Sent:=20 Thursday, June 13,=20 2002 = 12:59=20 PM

Subject: RE:=20 [CANSLIM] "M" History

 

I don't have a resource to = contribute=20 at this time but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with = Art=20 Cashin (an "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren = Buffet.=20 Both of these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out = that the=20 major bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20 1983.

 

They both expect the next = 17.6 years to=20 be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the = market=20 has performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the = influence of=20 this cycle and how the market was affected by it despite how the = economy was=20 performing.

 

Unfortunately I did not = have my full=20 attention focused on either interview so I missed much of what was = said=20 about specific time periods and how the market related to the = economy during=20 those time periods.

 

However, what I did hear = did not sound=20 very encouraging for the next 15 years!

 

E =

 

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Thursday, June = 13,=20 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: = [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

 

Since "M" is not being = nice- I have=20 focused my attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the = past 100 -=20 150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine tick. = I have=20 found a couple of resources that cover this topic, provide = timelines, etc.=20 but would appreciate any known quality resources the group has used = in the=20 past for such purposes.

 

Kelly=20 Short

 

Business Development=20 Manager

Neoris,=20 Inc.

(817)=20 731-0995

mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com

http://www.neoris.com

 

 

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- ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C21379.A36B8B60-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:38:57 -0400 From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C213A0.737A86A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%. - -----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History Ummm, 5% is a single digit - ----- Original Message ----- From: Hill, Ernie To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History I believe what he said was single digit growth. E - -----Original Message----- From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come?? DanF - ----- Original Message ----- From: Hill, Ernie To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in 2000 began in 1983. They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing. Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the market related to the economy during those time periods. However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15 years! E - -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past for such purposes. Kelly Short Business Development Manager Neoris, Inc. (817) 731-0995 mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com http://www.neoris.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. ****************************************************************** ****************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. ****************************************************************** - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C213A0.737A86A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Uhhh,=20 so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant=20 [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 = 8:01=20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM]=20 "M" History

Ummm, 5% is a single = digit
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hill,=20 Ernie
Sent: Thursday, June 13, = 2002 10:13=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

I = believe what he=20 said was single digit growth.

 

E

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Dan=20 Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: =
Thursday, June 13,=20 2002 = 8:24=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

 

Didn't Buffer also = predict just=20 5% market growth for years to come?? =

 

DanF

----- Original=20 Message -----

From: Hill,=20 Ernie

To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com= '=20

Sent:=20 Thursday, June=20 13, 2002 = 12:59=20 PM

Subject: RE:=20 [CANSLIM] "M" History

 

I don't have a resource = to contribute=20 at this time but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one = with Art=20 Cashin (an "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren = Buffet.=20 Both of these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point = out that=20 the major bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20 1983.

 

They both expect the = next 17.6 years=20 to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about = how the=20 market has performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out = the=20 influence of this cycle and how the market was affected by it = despite how=20 the economy was performing.

 

Unfortunately I did not = have my full=20 attention focused on either interview so I missed much of what = was said=20 about specific time periods and how the market related to the = economy=20 during those time periods.

 

However, what I did hear = did not=20 sound very encouraging for the next 15 = years!

 

E =

 

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Thursday, = June 13,=20 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: = [CANSLIM] "M"=20 History

 

Since "M" is not being = nice- I have=20 focused my attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the = past 100=20 - 150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine = tick. I=20 have found a couple of resources that cover this topic, provide = timelines,=20 etc. but would appreciate any known quality resources the group = has used=20 in the past for such purposes.

 

Kelly=20 Short

 

Business Development=20 Manager

Neoris,=20 Inc.

(817)=20 731-0995

mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com

http://www.neoris.com

 

 

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