From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2562 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Wednesday, July 3 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2562 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD RE: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD Re: [CANSLIM] Yahoo in trouble or wising up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:18:38 EDT From: Duke13139@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD - --part1_7a.293c11b7.2a5461be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Investors.com provides daily/weekly charts, info on stocks within the same industry, proprietary info (RS on their charts), etc. I need something provided by DGO that is worth the $1000 premium. I don't want to wrestle with 2500 stocks. I can generate my own reports using a combo of EXCEL/ACCESS. My question clarified: What can DGO provide that I can't get from IBD? Thanks for your help. - --part1_7a.293c11b7.2a5461be_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Investors.com provides daily/weekly charts, info on stocks within the same industry, proprietary info (RS on their charts), etc. I need something provided by DGO that is worth the $1000 premium. I don't want to wrestle with 2500 stocks. I can generate my own reports using a combo of EXCEL/ACCESS.

My question clarified: What can DGO provide that I can't get from IBD?

Thanks for your help.
- --part1_7a.293c11b7.2a5461be_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:19:19 -0500 From: "Fred Richards" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C22272.B649C820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wonder if Visicalc would work on today's machines? -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:06 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD Tom, I have an old copy of Lotus 1-2-3 you can use instead of Excel. (sorry- coudn't resist- nothing to do the day before a holiday) Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Katherine Malm [mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:45 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD Morning Tom, uh oh....guess you won't be using Excel again in *my* lifetime! Katherine PS While you're waiting for Nirvana, a 15 year old computer technogeek, a null modem cable and a copy of LapLink will have your files transferred in a jiffy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD Hi Katherine, True, I am still Excel-less, but one day will have the house wired for network, move my PC, extract all my needed files from the old drive (including Turbotax and Excel) and be all caught up again. And of course, by then I am sure my work day will settle down into a normal, stress free, 8 hour work day. By then, Naz should be challenging 5000 again, and the DOW testing 18,000!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Katherine Malm To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD I'd add....has a myriad of reports (with proprietary indicators) that can be exported to Excel for mining, one of which contains approx. 2500 stocks that appear in the printed version of dailygraphs. Very useful. Katherine PS Tom doesn't mention those because he misplaced his Office installation CD-ROM and I guess we just haven't given him a hard enough time about being Excel-less so as to motivate his search! ;)) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD able to chart any stock you want, when you want, with up to date data. daily and weekly charts as well. able to see at least some other stocks in the same industry. for an addl fee, there is now a screener available, as well as an industry group module (also for an addl fee). ----- Original Message ----- From: Duke13139@aol.com To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD I currently subscribe to IBD and have been tempted to subscribe to DGO. Is there a short list of advantages of DGO over IBD? Thank you, Duke - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your protection, this e-mail message has been scanned for viruses. Visit us at http://www.neoris.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C22272.B649C820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I  wonder if Visicalc would work on today's=20 machines?
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly=20 Short
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:06 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM]=20 DGO/IBD

Tom,
 
I=20 have an old copy of Lotus 1-2-3 you can use instead of=20 Excel.
 
(sorry- coudn't resist- nothing to do the day before a=20 holiday)
 
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Malm=20 [mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, = 2002 7:45=20 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM]=20 DGO/IBD

Morning Tom,
 
uh oh....guess you won't be using Excel again in *my* lifetime! = <g>
 
Katherine
 
PS While you're waiting for Nirvana, a 15 year old computer = technogeek,=20 a null modem cable and a copy of LapLink will have your files = transferred in=20 a jiffy.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, = 2002 7:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = DGO/IBD

Hi Katherine,
 
True, I am still Excel-less, but one day = will have=20 the house wired for network, move my PC, extract all my needed = files from=20 the old drive (including Turbotax and Excel) and be all caught up = again.=20 And of course, by then I am sure my work day will settle down into = a=20 normal, stress free, 8 hour work day. By then, Naz should be = challenging=20 5000 again, and the DOW testing 18,000!!
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD

I'd add....has a myriad of reports (with proprietary=20 indicators) that can be exported to Excel for mining, one of = which=20 contains approx. 2500 stocks that appear in the printed version of = dailygraphs. Very useful.
 
Katherine
 
PS Tom doesn't mention those because he misplaced his Office=20 installation CD-ROM and I guess we just haven't given him a hard = enough=20 time about being Excel-less so as to motivate his search! =  ;))
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Tom=20 Worley
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, = 2002 5:40=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20 DGO/IBD

able to chart any stock you want, when = you want,=20 with up to date data. daily and weekly charts as well. able to = see at=20 least some other stocks in the same industry. for an addl fee, = there is=20 now a screener available, as well as an industry group = module =20 (also for an addl fee).
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke13139@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD

I currently subscribe to IBD and have been = tempted to=20 subscribe to DGO. Is there a short list of advantages of DGO = over IBD?=20

Thank you,
Duke
=

For your protection, this e-mail message has been scanned for = viruses.=20

Visit us at http://www.neoris.com/=20


- ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C22272.B649C820-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:26:39 -0400 From: "Winston Little" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C2227C.1E3E8CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greater INCOME to the W.O.N. organizations. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Duke13139@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD Investors.com provides daily/weekly charts, info on stocks within the = same industry, proprietary info (RS on their charts), etc. I need = something provided by DGO that is worth the $1000 premium. I don't want = to wrestle with 2500 stocks. I can generate my own reports using a combo = of EXCEL/ACCESS. My question clarified: What can DGO provide that I can't get from IBD? = Thanks for your help. - ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C2227C.1E3E8CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greater INCOME to the W.O.N. = organizations.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Duke13139@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 = 10:18=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = DGO/IBD

Investors.com provides daily/weekly charts, info = on stocks=20 within the same industry, proprietary info (RS on their charts), etc. = I need=20 something provided by DGO that is worth the $1000 premium. I don't = want to=20 wrestle with 2500 stocks. I can generate my own reports using a combo = of=20 EXCEL/ACCESS.

My question clarified: What can DGO provide that = I can't=20 get from IBD?

Thanks for your=20 help.
- ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C2227C.1E3E8CA0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:26:26 -0500 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Yahoo in trouble or wising up? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C22273.B4450200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kelly, Interesting you should bring up Yahoo, as there was a very good article = on the failure of Broadband Internet and reference to Yahoo at = yesterday's Briefing.com. From a CANSLIM perspective, I think it's an = important one, as it shows that the technology direction that everybody = was betting on may not come to fruition. I'm even inclined to mark it = off my macrotheme list altogether. Up to now, I've been watching for = signs of the ultimate broadband "killer app" , and technology and/or = legislation which would solve the last mile problem. Turns out it may = just not be something we'll need to monitor for some time to come. Darn, = guess I'll have to do some more studying on immerging = technologies....but then again, maybe I'll just go take a swim.... Katherine PS Article pasted after Kelly's message.... - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Short=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:14 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] Yahoo in trouble or wising up? Yahoo has recently ejected their streaming financial tv/internet service = ("the only one of its kind"? hello Bloomberg) and now Ziff-Davis is = pulling Yahoo Internet Life. Is Yahoo in trouble, ejecting dogs, or are = they wising up and returning to their roots? (Sergey Brin, cofounder of = Google, calls it "their biggest mistake" straying from a search engine). today's article on Internet Life: = http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=3D%7BEC1E19EB%2D6ECE%2D404= B%2DB521%2D849F9797C744%7D&siteid=3Dmktw Kelly =3D=3D=3D Broadband's Failure - The Real Reason=20 02-Jul-02 09:20 ET=20 =20 [BRIEFING.COM - Robert V. Green] Last week, Yahoo announced that = they were shutting down their broadband product lines that create = original content, including Yahoo! FinanceVision and Yahoo! Radio. = Herein lies a key, simple explanation as to why broadband has been slow = to be adopted - and why broadband will not revive the technology = vendors.=20 Why Broadband Is Important Broadband technology was widely viewed as the next wave of the = great internet buildout. Internet I, as it was called, was the textual = internet. Internet II was viewed as the visual internet.=20 As late as 1999, the internet II was viewed as the next phase = which would take the internet revolution, and stock market boom, to even = higher heights. The internet infrastructure would have to be doubled, = benefitting every level of network supplier, including: Cisco, JDS = Uniphase, Exodus Communications, etc.=20 Even the collapse of the textual internet dot-com companies did = not deter some investors from believing in the internet II broadband = vision. The AOL/Time-Warner merger was supposed to the king of the new = broadband era. But that never happened.=20 In fact, many still view broadband - meaning streaming video and = audio - as the great technology white-horse that could rescue the = technology industry from its current slump.=20 And it isn't going to happen. At least, not in the foreseeable = future.=20 The Real Problem Broadband video applications failed because of one simple reason:=20 You can't watch TV at work. Face it, the vast number of internet users are using the internet = at work, instead of working. And broadband video is essentially the same = as TV. Certainly on-line brokerage accounts owed their great emergence to = one simple fact: you could finally trade stocks at work.=20 Online trading software existed before the internet came along, = but it was largely considered a colossal failure. FOX (Fidelity Online = Exchange) software, manufactured by Meca Software (now defunct) was a = huge disaster in the early nineties. Why? Because you couldn't use this = software at work. It required that you dial-in, on a modem, to the = system. Office PCs didn't easily have this capability.=20 When the internet came along, access to online trading was simple. = Internet access, especially in the beginning, was completely open. = Anyone could trade. Instead of calling your broker (which others in the = office would be able to hear), you could enter a trade - and it would = look like you were working. Not only that, but it was cheaper than a = trade from even a discount broker.=20 Online trading, and all of the associated internet activities with = it, boomed. Internet trading made an existing task easier and cheaper: = online trading liquifiedthe market for market transactions.=20 The applications which were successful on the internet during = Internet I days all had the following aspect in common: they liquified = an existing trait or business. Chat rooms liquified water cooler talk. = Email liquified phone calls. Instant messaging liquified email.=20 But broadband video doesn't liquify anything, especially in the = business arena.=20 Yahoo! FinanceVision failed because it is neither cheaper nor = easier than watching CNBC and most offices don't watch CNBC anyways! = Because of this, no one was willing to pay for it.=20 The Future For Business Broadband So if broadband is to succeed in the business market, it needs to = liquify an existing business function.=20 At the moment, teleconferencing is the most likely business event = to be liquified by broadband video.=20 However, here, audio already works remarkably well, and the price = has been continually dropping. Audio conference meetings are becoming = more popular and more frequent. Broadband audio conferencing stand = little chance of replacing the audio teleconference.=20 Webcasting of conference calls, now widespread, does not replace = ordinary teleconferencing, although it has reduced dial-up 1-800 costs. = However, those costs are replaced by the costs of providing the webcast = service.=20 Technologies such as webconferencing (Webex or Interwise, for = example) are growing in popularity. These allow a company to present = Powerpoint presentations or multi-media presentations over the internet. = These services liquify a sales call. They probably have strong futures.=20 But the webconferencing technologies all work well with existing = internet infrastructure. Even rapid growth in webconferencing will not = provide a strong driver to building out the "internet II" network, with = the anticipated benefits to Cisco, Juniper Networks, Sycamore, etc. = Webconferencing services work well with today's infrastructure.=20 Other than webconferencing, what existing business function does = broadband replace, at lower and easier costs? If you cannot provide an = answer, broadband cannot be viewed as a dramatic driver of the internet = infrastructure.=20 The Future For Consumer Broadband Consumer broadband prospects are even fuzzier.=20 The truth is that broadband simply costs too much for much home = markets. Most people use the internet primarily for email and instant = messaging. AOL has about half of the consumer market - and that's what = they think the internet is - email and IM.=20 TV rules the video entertainment market. Broadband internet video = is neither cheaper (it is often more expensive than cable) nor easier = (the remote control beats keyboard/mouse easily) than TV. Until it is, = broadband will not dethrone TV as the video device of choice.=20 To make matters even worse, content for broadband video is = significantly worse than for TV, because the best TV content has been = syndicated to TV, not the web.=20 Pornography is the only significant broadband service. It provides = pay-per-view video and is a lot easier, and more private, than going to = the XXX video store. Quality of video does not matter. Broadband = pornography liquifies the existing porno market.=20 But there is nothing on broadband today that liquifies the home = video entertainment market. In fact, there is a lot working against = broadband: TiVo and DVD subscription services are just two major = drivers.=20 Until broadband, internet-based on-demand-video gets linked to the = TV, and not the PC, broadband will not have significant penetration = difficulties in the consumer market.=20 The Implications For those of you thinking "Great - why didn't you tell me earlier" = we did. Any frequent reader of our Stock Briefs knows that we have long = been discussing this. We became luke-warm on the "internet II" idea = years ago:=20 a.. 23-Oct-00 The Broadband Future Gets Fuzzy=20 b.. 27-Nov-00 The Internet: What We've Learned=20 If you are still waiting for broadband - Internet II as it is = called - to rescue the tech sector - forget it. You need to develop = another premise for a major driver of technology stocks. (Good luck - we = haven't been able to.)=20 Broadband applications are likely to continue to develop, but = slowly, and not be a major driver of the overall technology market and = certainly not be a major driver of continued internet buildout.=20 Unlike cable TV or satellite TV, both of which took their markets = by storm, broadband video is still looking for the key element that = would make it a bull market: liquifying an existing market. Until that = happens, broadband applications are likely to continue to struggle to = find meaningful markets.=20 Yahoo! found this out the hard way with Yahoo FinanceVision and = Yahoo Radio.=20 Comments may be emailed to the author, Robert V. Green, at = rvgreen@briefing.com=20 =20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- - ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C22273.B4450200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kelly,
 
Interesting you should bring up Yahoo, as there was a very good = article on=20 the failure of Broadband Internet and reference to Yahoo at yesterday's=20 Briefing.com. From a CANSLIM perspective, I think it's an important = one, as=20 it shows that the technology direction that everybody was betting on may = not=20 come to fruition. I'm even inclined to mark it off my macrotheme list=20 altogether. Up to now, I've been watching for signs of the ultimate = broadband=20 "killer app" , and technology and/or legislation which would solve the = last mile=20 problem. Turns out it may just not be something we'll need to monitor = for some=20 time to come. Darn, guess I'll have to do some more studying on = immerging=20 technologies....but then again, maybe I'll just go take a swim....
 
Katherine
 
PS Article pasted after Kelly's message....
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly=20 Short
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 = 9:14=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Yahoo in = trouble or=20 wising up?

Yahoo=20 has recently ejected their streaming financial tv/internet service ("the = only=20 one of its kind"? hello Bloomberg) and now Ziff-Davis is pulling Yahoo = Internet=20 Life. Is Yahoo in trouble, ejecting dogs, or are they wising up and = returning to=20 their roots? (Sergey Brin, cofounder of Google, calls it "their biggest = mistake"=20 straying from a search engine).
 
today's article on Internet Life: http://cbs.marketwa= tch.com/news/story.asp?guid=3D%7BEC1E19EB%2D6ECE%2D404B%2DB521%2D849F9797= C744%7D&siteid=3Dmktw
 
Kelly
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
Broadband's Failure - The Real Reason
02-Jul-02 09:20=20 ET

[BRIEFING.COM - Robert V. Green] Last week, Yahoo announced = that they=20 were shutting down their broadband product lines that create = original=20 content, including Yahoo! FinanceVision and Yahoo! Radio. Herein = lies a=20 key, simple explanation as to why broadband has been slow to be = adopted -=20 and why broadband will not revive the technology vendors.

Why Broadband Is Important

Broadband technology was widely viewed as the next wave of the = great=20 internet buildout. Internet I, as it was called, was the textual = internet.=20 Internet II was viewed as the visual internet.

As late as 1999, the internet II was viewed as the next phase = which=20 would take the internet revolution, and stock market boom, to even = higher=20 heights. The internet infrastructure would have to be doubled, = benefitting=20 every level of network supplier, including: Cisco, JDS Uniphase, = Exodus=20 Communications, etc.

Even the collapse of the textual internet dot-com companies did = not=20 deter some investors from believing in the internet II broadband = vision.=20 The AOL/Time-Warner merger was supposed to the king of the new = broadband=20 era. But that never happened.

In fact, many still view broadband - meaning streaming = video and=20 audio - as the great technology white-horse that could rescue the=20 technology industry from its current slump.

And it isn't going to happen. At least, not in the foreseeable = future.=20

The Real Problem

Broadband video applications failed because of one simple = reason:

You can't watch TV at work.

Face it, the vast number of internet users are using the = internet at=20 work, instead of working. And broadband video is essentially = the same=20 as TV.

Certainly on-line brokerage accounts owed their great emergence = to one=20 simple fact: you could finally trade stocks at work.

Online trading software existed before the internet came along, = but it=20 was largely considered a colossal failure. FOX (Fidelity Online = Exchange)=20 software, manufactured by Meca Software (now defunct) was a huge = disaster=20 in the early nineties. Why? Because you couldn't use this software = at=20 work. It required that you dial-in, on a modem, to the system. = Office PCs=20 didn't easily have this capability.

When the internet came along, access to online trading was = simple.=20 Internet access, especially in the beginning, was completely open. = Anyone could trade. Instead of calling your broker (which = others in=20 the office would be able to hear), you could enter a trade - = and it=20 would look like you were working. Not only that, but it was = cheaper=20 than a trade from even a discount broker.

Online trading, and all of the associated internet activities = with it,=20 boomed. Internet trading made an existing task easier and cheaper: = online trading liquifiedthe market for market = transactions.

The applications which were successful on the internet during = Internet=20 I days all had the following aspect in common: they liquified an = existing=20 trait or business. Chat rooms liquified water cooler talk. Email = liquified=20 phone calls. Instant messaging liquified email.

But broadband video doesn't liquify anything, especially in the = business arena.

Yahoo! FinanceVision failed because it is neither cheaper = nor easier=20 than watching CNBC and most offices don't watch CNBC anyways! = Because=20 of this, no one was willing to pay for it.

The Future For Business Broadband

So if broadband is to succeed in the business market, it needs = to=20 liquify an existing business function.

At the moment, teleconferencing is the most likely business = event to be=20 liquified by broadband video.

However, here, audio already works remarkably well, and the = price has=20 been continually dropping. Audio conference meetings are becoming = more=20 popular and more frequent. Broadband audio conferencing stand = little=20 chance of replacing the audio teleconference.

Webcasting of conference calls, now widespread, does not = replace=20 ordinary teleconferencing, although it has reduced dial-up 1-800 = costs.=20 However, those costs are replaced by the costs of providing the = webcast=20 service.

Technologies such as webconferencing (Webex or Interwise, for = example)=20 are growing in popularity. These allow a company to present = Powerpoint=20 presentations or multi-media presentations over the internet. = These=20 services liquify a sales call. They probably have strong = futures.=20

But the webconferencing technologies all work well with = existing=20 internet infrastructure. Even rapid growth in webconferencing will = not=20 provide a strong driver to building out the "internet II" network, = with=20 the anticipated benefits to Cisco, Juniper Networks, Sycamore, = etc.=20 Webconferencing services work well with today's infrastructure. =

Other than webconferencing, what existing business function = does=20 broadband replace, at lower and easier costs? If you cannot = provide an=20 answer, broadband cannot be viewed as a dramatic driver of the = internet=20 infrastructure.

The Future For Consumer Broadband

Consumer broadband prospects are even fuzzier.

The truth is that broadband simply costs too much for much home = markets. Most people use the internet primarily for email and = instant=20 messaging. AOL has about half of the consumer market - and that's = what=20 they think the internet is - email and IM.

TV rules the video entertainment market. Broadband internet = video is=20 neither cheaper (it is often more expensive than cable) nor easier = (the=20 remote control beats keyboard/mouse easily) than TV. Until it is,=20 broadband will not dethrone TV as the video device of choice.

To make matters even worse, content for broadband video is=20 significantly worse than for TV, because the best TV content has = been=20 syndicated to TV, not the web.

Pornography is the only significant broadband service. It = provides=20 pay-per-view video and is a lot easier, and more private, than = going=20 to the XXX video store. Quality of video does not matter. = Broadband=20 pornography liquifies the existing porno market.

But there is nothing on broadband today that liquifies the home = video=20 entertainment market. In fact, there is a lot working against = broadband:=20 TiVo and DVD subscription services are just two major drivers. =

Until broadband, internet-based on-demand-video gets linked to = the TV,=20 and not the PC, broadband will not have significant penetration=20 difficulties in the consumer market.

The Implications

For those of you thinking "Great - why didn't you tell me = earlier" we=20 did. Any frequent reader of our Stock Briefs knows that we have = long been=20 discussing this. We became luke-warm on the "internet II" idea = years ago:=20

  • 23-Oct-00 The Broadband Future Gets Fuzzy
  • 27-Nov-00 The Internet: What We've Learned =

If you are still waiting for broadband - Internet II as it is = called -=20 to rescue the tech sector - forget it. You need to develop another = premise=20 for a major driver of technology stocks. (Good luck - we haven't = been able=20 to.)

Broadband applications are likely to continue to develop, but = slowly,=20 and not be a major driver of the overall technology market and = certainly=20 not be a major driver of continued internet buildout.

Unlike cable TV or satellite TV, both of which took their = markets by=20 storm, broadband video is still looking for the key element that = would=20 make it a bull market: liquifying an existing market. Until = that=20 happens, broadband applications are likely to continue to struggle = to find=20 meaningful markets.

Yahoo! found this out the hard way with Yahoo FinanceVision and = Yahoo=20 Radio.

Comments may be emailed to the author, Robert V. Green, at rvgreen@briefing.com=20


 

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