From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2751 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Thursday, August 8 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2751 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Chart Patterns [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] RE: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:58:30 -0400 From: "Winston Little" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Chart Patterns This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C23ECA.87C75A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sol: Agree with DOUBLE BOTTOM on ISLE. DCOM may also be forming one, but the patterm is less clear there. Currrent overall market has been especially volatile.=20 Similar action reportedly occurred in 197x era. =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sol Mayer=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Chart Patterns what about dcom as a double bottom also isle=20 Winston Little wrote:=20 My observations see several double bottoms forming. MO just completed one. WMT and several of the house builders (e.g. HOV, TOL, KBH,PHM,MHO) = also show this. Does anyone else see similar patterns or am I hallucinating? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs - ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C23ECA.87C75A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sol:
Agree with DOUBLE BOTTOM on ISLE.
DCOM may also be forming one, but the patterm is = less clear=20 there.
 
Currrent overall market has been especially = volatile.=20
Similar action reportedly occurred in 197x=20 era.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sol = Mayer=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 = 10:42=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Chart=20 Patterns

what about dcom as a double bottom also isle=20

 Winston Little wrote:=20

My observations see several double bottoms=20 forming.
MO just completed one.
WMT and several of the house builders (e.g. HOV, = TOL,=20 KBH,PHM,MHO) also show this.
 
Does anyone else see similar patterns or am I=20 hallucinating?


Do You Yahoo!?
= HotJobs,=20 a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New = Jobs - ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C23ECA.87C75A20-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:34:30 -0400 From: "Duke Miller" Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C23ECF.92CD36B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charley, you the man! And Jeff, if you're listening, how's this for a "what-if"? Just as CEO's are signing off on their companies' earnings, what if new members sign off on having read at least one of O'Neil's books? A simple statement would do: "It is understood by all of the present members that you (as a new member) are versed in the CANSLIM methodology and that you have read at least one of WON's books." I don't make this suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear before the cameras on CNBC as the first member to sign this oath! (Provided, of course, Maria B. does the interview!) Duke - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:16 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy Tomatoes Kris: There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a suggestion? You have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to Make Money in Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment Success. This is how most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the books was that there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum fills that need. I have found that most participants are willing to share their knowledge. Good Luck Charley - ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C23ECF.92CD36B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Charley, you = the man! =20
 
And Jeff, if = you're=20 listening, how's this for a "what-if"?  Just as CEO's are signing = off on=20 their companies' earnings, what if new members sign off on = having read=20 at least one of O'Neil's books?  A simple statement would = do: =20
 
"It is = understood by all of=20 the present members that you (as a new member) are versed in the CANSLIM = methodology and that you have read  at least one of WON's=20 books."
 
I don't make = this=20 suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear before the cameras on = CNBC as=20 the first member to sign this oath!  (Provided, of course, Maria B. = does=20 the interview!)
 
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, = August 07,=20 2002 7:16 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re:=20 [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy=20 Tomatoes

Kris:=20 There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a = suggestion? You=20 have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to Make Money = in=20 Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment Success. = This is how=20 most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the books was = that=20 there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum fills that need. = I have=20 found that most participants are willing to share their knowledge. =
Good=20 Luck       Charley=20
- ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C23ECF.92CD36B0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:44:07 -0600 From: "David Taggart" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C23EC0.23E86170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MessageId rather have Martha do the interview :-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Duke Miller Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:35 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Charley, you the man! And Jeff, if you're listening, how's this for a "what-if"? Just as CEO's are signing off on their companies' earnings, what if new members sign off on having read at least one of O'Neil's books? A simple statement would do: "It is understood by all of the present members that you (as a new member) are versed in the CANSLIM methodology and that you have read at least one of WON's books." I don't make this suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear before the cameras on CNBC as the first member to sign this oath! (Provided, of course, Maria B. does the interview!) Duke -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:16 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy Tomatoes Kris: There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a suggestion? You have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to Make Money in Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment Success. This is how most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the books was that there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum fills that need. I have found that most participants are willing to share their knowledge. Good Luck Charley - ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C23EC0.23E86170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Id=20 rather have Martha do the interview :-)
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Duke=20 Miller
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:35 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS=20 Oath

Charley, you = the=20 man! 
 
And Jeff, if = you're=20 listening, how's this for a "what-if"?  Just as CEO's are signing = off on=20 their companies' earnings, what if new members sign off on = having=20 read at least one of O'Neil's books?  A simple statement would = do: =20
 
"It is = understood by all=20 of the present members that you (as a new member) are versed in the = CANSLIM=20 methodology and that you have read  at least one of WON's=20 books."
 
I don't make = this=20 suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear before the cameras = on CNBC=20 as the first member to sign this oath!  (Provided, of course, = Maria B.=20 does the interview!)
 
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, = August 07,=20 2002 7:16 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re:=20 [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy=20 Tomatoes

Kris:=20 There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a = suggestion?=20 You have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to Make = Money=20 in Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment = Success. This=20 is how most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the = books was=20 that there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum fills = that need.=20 I have found that most participants are willing to share their = knowledge.=20
Good Luck       Charley=20
- ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C23EC0.23E86170-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:48:43 -0700 From: "Bill Triffet" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] Hi Kris, Let explain my learning curve history in an effort to help you here. I started learning canslim in late 1998. By late 1999 the last push of the great bull occurred. I was on top of the world with a 90% return for that year. I thought I really had it down. Then in March of 2K lots of sell signals presented themselves. Even IBD was right on the mark in making that call to sell. I did...for a while. In my eagerness to jump back and "take" some more money from the "easy" market, I made lots of little failed trades. I had to loose 30% of my portfolio that year before I realized I wasn't there yet. My point is to do the time up front. If it was so easy, we'd all be millionaires. You mention: "But some of the smarter canslimers on the site, who have a lot more time and knowledge, or computer savvy could probably pinpoint the possible great ones from the O.K. ones easily, where I would never see it at this point. " Time is the key here. Spending more time to learn this is the fastest way to success. One good gauge of my stock picking is to see it show up in IBD the next day or two (haven't seen that for a while though). For starters, check out Elmer's post to zillagirl about how to build your list http://www.investors.com/editorial/web00.asp?v=8/8 . I highly recommend the IBD sites, "Where The Big Money's Flowing Now" and "Weekend Review" to help building a list of your own. Feel free to post a couple up here for discussion if you have some questions about them. Hope this helps. - -Bill - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] > Katherine, Nancy articulated my thoughts while I was struggling with my post. > > ---- My question is, what would be the harm of adding say the top two or > three stocks from each interested persons list( who would choose to > participate)-to be dissected by the group. A person like me who is relatively > new to canslim would probably have my stocks shot down right away. > -----But some of the smarter canslimers on the site, who have a lot more time > and knowledge, or computer savvy could probably pinpoint the possible great > ones from the O.K. ones easily, where I would never see it at this point. > ----- Bill Oneil said even he needed a 3 year learning curve before he > started to get the system and become profitable. > ----- If the market turns in 6 months and leaders start to emerge in a year > or so- this type of brainstorming may give all boats a chance to rise with > the tide. Otherwise , any of us that haven't had the three year curve may > very well miss a great buying opportunity. > -----I don't see how anyone would lose from sharing their knowledge-where > would we all be if Bill O. felt that way. Even he puts out lists- > > Please rid yourself of the thought that I would use a list abr> crutch > instead of something to gather knowledge. > > Kris > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:54:06 -0700 From: "Bill Triffet" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] Let me add, I found out about canslim by picking up a book with the cheesy title," How To Make Money In Stocks" while browsing the bookstore. To this day, everyone I show it to laughs at the title. (g) - -Bill - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Triffet" To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] > Hi Kris, > > Let explain my learning curve history in an effort to help you here. I > started learning canslim in late 1998. By late 1999 the last push of the > great bull occurred. I was on top of the world with a 90% return for that > year. I thought I really had it down. Then in March of 2K lots of sell > signals presented themselves. Even IBD was right on the mark in making that > call to sell. I did...for a while. In my eagerness to jump back and "take" > some more money from the "easy" market, I made lots of little failed trades. > I had to loose 30% of my portfolio that year before I realized I wasn't > there yet. > > My point is to do the time up front. If it was so easy, we'd all be > millionaires. You mention: "But some of the smarter canslimers on the site, > who have a lot more time and knowledge, or computer savvy could probably > pinpoint the possible great ones from the O.K. ones easily, where I would > never see it at this point. " Time is the key here. Spending more time to > learn this is the fastest way to success. One good gauge of my stock picking > is to see it show up in IBD the next day or two (haven't seen that for a > while though). > > > For starters, check out Elmer's post to zillagirl about how to build your > list http://www.investors.com/editorial/web00.asp?v=8/8 . I highly recommend > the IBD sites, "Where The Big Money's Flowing Now" and "Weekend Review" to > help building a list of your own. Feel free to post a couple up here for > discussion if you have some questions about them. > > Hope this helps. > > -Bill > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:56:50 -0600 From: "David Taggart" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] There are quite a few books that have cheesy titles but are really good. HTMMIS, How I made 2,000,000 in the Stock Market by Darvas, then other titles that are more for marketing but have great content like Hedge Fund Edge by Boucher, heck the first time I saw Market Wizards I thought it would be cheesey. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bill Triffet Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:54 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] Let me add, I found out about canslim by picking up a book with the cheesy title," How To Make Money In Stocks" while browsing the bookstore. To this day, everyone I show it to laughs at the title. (g) - -Bill - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Triffet" To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Learning curve [was: Hunting List (nee Watchlist)] > Hi Kris, > > Let explain my learning curve history in an effort to help you here. I > started learning canslim in late 1998. By late 1999 the last push of the > great bull occurred. I was on top of the world with a 90% return for that > year. I thought I really had it down. Then in March of 2K lots of sell > signals presented themselves. Even IBD was right on the mark in making that > call to sell. I did...for a while. In my eagerness to jump back and "take" > some more money from the "easy" market, I made lots of little failed trades. > I had to loose 30% of my portfolio that year before I realized I wasn't > there yet. > > My point is to do the time up front. If it was so easy, we'd all be > millionaires. You mention: "But some of the smarter canslimers on the site, > who have a lot more time and knowledge, or computer savvy could probably > pinpoint the possible great ones from the O.K. ones easily, where I would > never see it at this point. " Time is the key here. Spending more time to > learn this is the fastest way to success. One good gauge of my stock picking > is to see it show up in IBD the next day or two (haven't seen that for a > while though). > > > For starters, check out Elmer's post to zillagirl about how to build your > list http://www.investors.com/editorial/web00.asp?v=8/8 . I highly recommend > the IBD sites, "Where The Big Money's Flowing Now" and "Weekend Review" to > help building a list of your own. Feel free to post a couple up here for > discussion if you have some questions about them. > > Hope this helps. > > -Bill > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:57:34 -0400 From: "Winston Little" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C23ED2.C813F2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageDuke: We believe that Martha Stewart (not McCallum) will be available to = administer the oath for you. My perception from watching the correspondence on the subject is that = most if not all supplicants have read one or more of the books and were = seeking some forum for tracking a case while it was live. The O'Neil books and IBD are filled with after the fact case studies and = Monday morning quarterbacking.These are helpful, and the WebLink feature = has served to improve the status with cases more current. Unfortunately, I believe that several people have read the requests as = people asking for others to do the work for the requesters rather than = for help with more current cases.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Duke Miller=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Charley, you the man! =20 And Jeff, if you're listening, how's this for a "what-if"? Just as = CEO's are signing off on their companies' earnings, what if new members = sign off on having read at least one of O'Neil's books? A simple = statement would do: =20 "It is understood by all of the present members that you (as a new = member) are versed in the CANSLIM methodology and that you have read at = least one of WON's books." I don't make this suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear = before the cameras on CNBC as the first member to sign this oath! = (Provided, of course, Maria B. does the interview!) Duke -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:16 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy Tomatoes Kris: There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a = suggestion? You have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to = Make Money in Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment Success. = This is how most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the = books was that there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum = fills that need. I have found that most participants are willing to = share their knowledge.=20 Good Luck Charley=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C23ED2.C813F2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Duke:
 
We believe that Martha Stewart (not McCallum) will = be=20 available to administer the oath for you.
 
My perception from watching the correspondence on = the subject=20 is that most if not all supplicants have read one or more of  = the=20 books and were seeking some forum for tracking a case while it = was=20 live.
 
The O'Neil books and IBD are filled with after = the fact=20 case studies and Monday morning quarterbacking.These are helpful, and = the=20 WebLink feature has served to improve the status with cases more=20 current.
Unfortunately, I believe that several people have = read the=20 requests as people asking for others to do the work for the = requesters=20 rather than for  help with more current cases. 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Duke=20 Miller
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 = 11:34=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS = Oath

Charley, you = the=20 man! 
 
And Jeff, if = you're=20 listening, how's this for a "what-if"?  Just as CEO's are signing = off on=20 their companies' earnings, what if new members sign off on = having=20 read at least one of O'Neil's books?  A simple statement would = do: =20
 
"It is = understood by all=20 of the present members that you (as a new member) are versed in the = CANSLIM=20 methodology and that you have read  at least one of WON's=20 books."
 
I don't make = this=20 suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear before the cameras = on CNBC=20 as the first member to sign this oath!  (Provided, of course, = Maria B.=20 does the interview!)
 
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, = August 07,=20 2002 7:16 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re:=20 [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy=20 Tomatoes

Kris:=20 There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a = suggestion?=20 You have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to Make = Money=20 in Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment = Success. This=20 is how most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the = books was=20 that there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum fills = that need.=20 I have found that most participants are willing to share their = knowledge.=20
Good Luck       Charley=20
- ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C23ED2.C813F2C0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:31:09 -0500 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_08B5_01C23ECF.17B2A050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageWinston, I'm a little confused now....maybe it's because the thread became so = convoluted. Are you saying that I was implying that I didn't want to "do = the work for others" when I said that I did not want to post a weekly = list? If so, that was never my intent. My original comment was simply = that *any* list is a "crutch" (including those generated by the IBD) = because it doesn't allow the user to find a personal path to creating = their own list of candidates. The problem is not with having a list, the = problem is with having *too many* lists and no means to sift through = them in a meaningful way.=20 For me personally, I knew that my mining methods were working well when = I was already stalking trades *before* the stocks were highlighted in = the IBD. The process of arriving at that particular mining method gave = me an expanded understanding and confidence in the CANSLIM discipline. = As Robert E stated so eloquently earlier today in his oh-so-Zen = post.....the trip is the destination. Katherine - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Winston Little=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Duke: We believe that Martha Stewart (not McCallum) will be available to = administer the oath for you. My perception from watching the correspondence on the subject is that = most if not all supplicants have read one or more of the books and were = seeking some forum for tracking a case while it was live. The O'Neil books and IBD are filled with after the fact case studies and = Monday morning quarterbacking.These are helpful, and the WebLink feature = has served to improve the status with cases more current. Unfortunately, I believe that several people have read the requests as = people asking for others to do the work for the requesters rather than = for help with more current cases.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Duke Miller=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Charley, you the man! =20 And Jeff, if you're listening, how's this for a "what-if"? Just as = CEO's are signing off on their companies' earnings, what if new members = sign off on having read at least one of O'Neil's books? A simple = statement would do: =20 "It is understood by all of the present members that you (as a new = member) are versed in the CANSLIM methodology and that you have read at = least one of WON's books." I don't make this suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear = before the cameras on CNBC as the first member to sign this oath! = (Provided, of course, Maria B. does the interview!) Duke -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:16 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy Tomatoes Kris: There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a = suggestion? You have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to = Make Money in Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment Success. = This is how most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the = books was that there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum = fills that need. I have found that most participants are willing to = share their knowledge.=20 Good Luck Charley=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_08B5_01C23ECF.17B2A050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Winston,
 
I'm a little confused now....maybe it's because the thread became = so=20 convoluted. Are you saying that I was implying that I didn't want to "do = the=20 work for others" when I said that I did not want to post a weekly list? = If so,=20 that was never my intent. My original comment was simply that *any* list = is a=20 "crutch" (including those generated by the IBD)  because it doesn't = allow=20 the user to find a personal path to creating their own list of = candidates. The=20 problem is not with having a list, the problem is with having *too many* = lists=20 and no means to sift through them in a meaningful way.
 
For me personally, I knew that my mining methods were working well = when I=20 was already stalking trades *before* the stocks were highlighted in the = IBD. The=20 process of arriving at that particular mining method gave me an expanded = understanding and confidence in the CANSLIM discipline. As Robert E = stated so=20 eloquently earlier today in his oh-so-Zen post.....the trip is the=20 destination.
 
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Winston=20 Little
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath

Duke:
 
We believe that Martha Stewart (not McCallum) will = be=20 available to administer the oath for you.
 
My perception from watching the correspondence on = the subject=20 is that most if not all supplicants have read one or more of  = the=20 books and were seeking some forum for tracking a case while it = was=20 live.
 
The O'Neil books and IBD are filled with after = the fact=20 case studies and Monday morning quarterbacking.These are helpful, and = the=20 WebLink feature has served to improve the status with cases more=20 current.
Unfortunately, I believe that several people have = read the=20 requests as people asking for others to do the work for the = requesters=20 rather than for  help with more current cases. 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Duke=20 Miller
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 = 11:34=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS = Oath

Charley, you = the=20 man! 
 
And Jeff, if = you're=20 listening, how's this for a "what-if"?  Just as CEO's are signing = off on=20 their companies' earnings, what if new members sign off on = having=20 read at least one of O'Neil's books?  A simple statement would = do: =20
 
"It is = understood by all=20 of the present members that you (as a new member) are versed in the = CANSLIM=20 methodology and that you have read  at least one of WON's=20 books."
 
I don't make = this=20 suggestion lightly, Jeff: I'll volunteer to appear before the cameras = on CNBC=20 as the first member to sign this oath!  (Provided, of course, = Maria B.=20 does the interview!)
 
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Chazmoore@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, = August 07,=20 2002 7:16 PM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re:=20 [CANSLIM] Hunting List (nee Watchlist) - Holy=20 Tomatoes

Kris:=20 There certainly nothing wrong with lurking, but may I offer a = suggestion?=20 You have not said if you have read O'Neil's two books How to Make = Money=20 in Stocks and 24 Essential Lessons for Investment = Success. This=20 is how most of us got started. The problem I had after I read the = books was=20 that there was no place to go to ask questions. This forum fills = that need.=20 I have found that most participants are willing to share their = knowledge.=20
Good Luck       Charley=20
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