From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2831 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, August 19 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2831 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 01:08:32 +0200 From: "Mathews, Craig" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C247D5.563F2460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Walter, He is managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, looking for 99 investors to invest minimum of 500K each. I received a prospectus last year, did not participate. Craig - -----Original Message----- From: Walter Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:38 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Ryan Capital Management 100 Wilshire Blvd Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110 Phone (310) 260-6805 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. Lobatto Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:33 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Anyone know the whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do recall that he and WON started a mutual fund several years ago that had mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund family. Does he still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a track record? Jon - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C247D5.563F2460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello Walter,
 
He is managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, looking for 99 investors to invest minimum of 500K each.  I received a prospectus last year, did not participate.
 
Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:38 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan

Ryan Capital Management
100 Wilshire Blvd
Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110
Phone (310) 260-6805
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. Lobatto
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:33 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] David Ryan

Anyone know the whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do recall that he and WON started a mutual fund several years ago that had mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund family. Does he still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a track record?
 
Jon
- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C247D5.563F2460-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:31:09 -0500 From: "david frank" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_019F_01C247AE.96B60CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I find interesting is that David Ryan, I suppose you can call him a = protege of WON, if he made or makes that much money-why would he invest = other people's money? I can hardly keep up my own personal acoounts. = david ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mathews, Craig=20 To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20 Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Hello Walter, He is managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, = looking for 99 investors to invest minimum of 500K each. I received a = prospectus last year, did not participate. Craig -----Original Message----- From: Walter Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:38 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Ryan Capital Management 100 Wilshire Blvd Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110 Phone (310) 260-6805 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. Lobatto Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:33 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Anyone know the whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do recall = that he and WON started a mutual fund several years ago that had = mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund family. Does he = still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a track record? Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_019F_01C247AE.96B60CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What I find interesting is that = David Ryan, I=20 suppose you can call him a protege of WON, if he made or makes that = much=20 money-why would  he invest other people's money? I can hardly keep = up my=20 own personal acoounts. david
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mathews,=20 Craig
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'= =20
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 = 6:08=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David = Ryan

Hello Walter,
 
He=20 is managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, looking = for 99=20 investors to invest minimum of 500K each.  I received a = prospectus last=20 year, did not participate.
 
Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Wittesch=20 [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 = 1:38=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject:=20 RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan

Ryan=20 Capital Management
100=20 Wilshire Blvd
Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110
Phone (310) 260-6805
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J.=20 Lobatto
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:33 = AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] David=20 Ryan

Anyone know the whereabouts or = whatabouts of=20 David Ryan? I do recall that he and WON started a mutual fund = several years=20 ago that had mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund = family.=20 Does he still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a = track=20 record?
 
Jon
- ------=_NextPart_000_019F_01C247AE.96B60CB0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:26:11 -0500 From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C247AD.E52A3CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OPM (other people's money) provides leverage. In a hedge fund environment, a General Partner can earn 20% profit and 1% management fee. Utilizing OPM will enhance a great investor's ability to make money. It's not an altruistic pursuit. The downfall (Read Cramer's and Marty Schwartz's book) is that OPM brings about many more headaches. This is why many in the hedge fund industry close up shop and just trade for themselves, that is if they were successful and did not just blow up. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:31 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan What I find interesting is that David Ryan, I suppose you can call him a protege of WON, if he made or makes that much money-why would he invest other people's money? I can hardly keep up my own personal acoounts. david - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mathews, Craig To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Hello Walter, He is managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, looking for 99 investors to invest minimum of 500K each. I received a prospectus last year, did not participate. Craig - -----Original Message----- From: Walter Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:38 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Ryan Capital Management 100 Wilshire Blvd Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110 Phone (310) 260-6805 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. Lobatto Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:33 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Anyone know the whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do recall that he and WON started a mutual fund several years ago that had mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund family. Does he still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a track record? Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C247AD.E52A3CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OPM (other people’s money) = provides leverage.  In a hedge fund environment, a General Partner can earn = 20% profit and 1% management fee.  Utilizing OPM will enhance a great = investor’s ability to make money.  It’s not an altruistic pursuit. The = downfall (Read Cramer’s and Marty Schwartz’s book) is that OPM brings = about many more headaches.  This is why many in the hedge fund industry = close up shop and just trade for themselves, that is if they were successful and = did not just blow up.

 

Ed Gjertsen II

ed@macktracks.com

=

-----Original = Message-----
From: = owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank
Sent: Monday, August 19, = 2002 6:31 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<= /span>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = David Ryan

 

What I find interesting = is that David Ryan, I suppose you can call him a protege of WON, if he made = or makes that much money-why would  he invest other people's money? I = can hardly keep up my own personal acoounts. david

----- Original Message = - -----

Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:08 PM

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan

 

Hello = Walter,

 

He is managing = private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, looking for 99 investors to = invest minimum of 500K each.  I received a prospectus last year, did not = participate.

 

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, = 2002 1:38 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] = David Ryan

Ryan Capital = Management

100 Wilshire = Blvd

Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110

Phone (310) = 260-6805

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. Lobatto
Sent: Sunday, August 18, = 2002 6:33 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] David = Ryan

Anyone know the whereabouts = or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do recall that he and WON started a mutual = fund several years ago that had mediocre performance and that was bought out = by a fund family. Does he still manage money these days and if so, anyone = aware of a track record?

 

Jon

- ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C247AD.E52A3CA0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:11:13 -0500 From: "david frank" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01A9_01C247B4.2F80F0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, that is my point. if you have $2 million and make 50% for 1 year-you = have a million profit- using your own account. Why put up with the = headaches of paperwork and people bellyaching about their money? OPM = used be the mantra in the real estate market. most of those real estate = gurus and people that i knew in real estate- using other's people money- = went bankrupt. I lived pretty much lived in a shack-when i met my = wife-sold my rare book collection to the university-bought my first = investment house. Never used OPM or borrowed from the bank. never looked = back-made good. Works the same way in the stock market if one can become = the good investor. I believe Ann mentioned a couple of classic = statements that WON wrote that were in his book-she posted these = recently-very true statements. thank you, david ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Edward W. Gjertsen II=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan OPM (other people's money) provides leverage. In a hedge fund = environment, a General Partner can earn 20% profit and 1% management = fee. Utilizing OPM will enhance a great investor's ability to make = money. It's not an altruistic pursuit. The downfall (Read Cramer's and = Marty Schwartz's book) is that OPM brings about many more headaches. = This is why many in the hedge fund industry close up shop and just trade = for themselves, that is if they were successful and did not just blow = up. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of david frank Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:31 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David Ryan What I find interesting is that David Ryan, I suppose you can call him = a protege of WON, if he made or makes that much money-why would he = invest other people's money? I can hardly keep up my own personal = acoounts. david ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mathews, Craig=20 To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20 Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Hello Walter, He is managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, = looking for 99 investors to invest minimum of 500K each. I received a = prospectus last year, did not participate. Craig -----Original Message----- From: Walter Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:38 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Ryan Capital Management 100 Wilshire Blvd Santa Monica, CA 90401-1110 Phone (310) 260-6805 -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. Lobatto Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:33 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] David Ryan Anyone know the whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do = recall that he and WON started a mutual fund several years ago that had = mediocre performance and that was bought out by a fund family. Does he = still manage money these days and if so, anyone aware of a track record? Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_01A9_01C247B4.2F80F0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed, that is my point. if you have $2 = million and=20 make 50% for 1 year-you have a million profit- using your own account. = Why put=20 up with the headaches of paperwork and people bellyaching about their = money? OPM=20 used be the mantra in the real estate market. most of those real estate = gurus=20 and people that i knew in real estate- using other's people = money-=20 went bankrupt. I lived pretty much lived in a shack-when i met my = wife-sold my=20 rare book collection to the university-bought my first investment house. = Never=20 used OPM or borrowed from the bank. never looked back-made good. Works = the same=20 way in the stock market if one can become the good investor. I believe=20 Ann mentioned a couple of classic statements  that=20 WON wrote that were in his book-she posted these recently-very = true=20 statements. thank you, david
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Edward = W. Gjertsen=20 II
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 = 6:26=20 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David = Ryan

OPM (other people’s = money) provides=20 leverage.  In a hedge fund environment, a General Partner can = earn 20%=20 profit and 1% management fee.  Utilizing OPM will enhance a great = investor’s ability to make money.  It’s not an = altruistic pursuit. The=20 downfall (Read Cramer’s and Marty Schwartz’s book) is that = OPM brings about=20 many more headaches.  This is why many in the hedge fund industry = close=20 up shop and just trade for themselves, that is if they were successful = and did=20 not just blow up.

 

Ed Gjertsen = II

ed@macktracks.com

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of david=20 frank
Sent: Monday, = August=20 19, 2002 6:31 PM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] David=20 Ryan

 

What I find interesting=20 is that David Ryan, I suppose you can call him a protege of = WON, if=20 he made or makes that much money-why would  he invest other = people's=20 money? I can hardly keep up my own personal acoounts.=20 david

----- Original Message = - -----=20

From: Mathews,=20 Craig

To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'= =20

Sent: Monday,=20 August 19, 2002 6:08 PM

Subject: RE:=20 [CANSLIM] David Ryan

 

Hello=20 Walter,

 

He is=20 managing private funds, I forget the exact SEC designation, looking = for 99=20 investors to invest minimum of 500K each.  I received a = prospectus last=20 year, did not participate.

 

Craig

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Walter=20 Wittesch [mailto:waltw@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 = 1:38=20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] David=20 Ryan

Ryan=20 Capital Management

100=20 Wilshire Blvd

Santa=20 Monica, CA 90401-1110

Phone=20 (310) 260-6805

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J. = Lobatto
Sent: Sunday, August 18, = 2002 6:33=20 AM
To:=20 canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] David=20 Ryan

Anyone know the=20 whereabouts or whatabouts of David Ryan? I do recall that he and = WON=20 started a mutual fund several years ago that had mediocre = performance and=20 that was bought out by a fund family. Does he still manage money = these=20 days and if so, anyone aware of a track = record?

 

Jon

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