From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2852 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, August 23 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2852 In this issue: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets RE: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets [CANSLIM] CVH RE: [CANSLIM] CVH RE: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets Re: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk Re: [CANSLIM] eIBD Re: [CANSLIM] Breakout Blues RE: [CANSLIM] Breakout Blues RE: New IBD Subscriber Service; Was [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 22:49:16 -0400 From: "Jeff Bogatay" Subject: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets While chatting with the webmaster at tradingmarkets.com, he extended an offer for this mailing list. A free 3 month trial for Canslimmers. I have no affiliation whatsoever, just passing the offer along. Some of the intermediate term tutorials are very canslimmish, and they have a cup with handle scanner as well. I haven't spent much time there yet, so YMMV. http://www.tradingmarkets.com/index.cfm/trial/?src=CML - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:04:45 -0600 From: "David Taggart" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets I dont know if they will give you full access to all of the tutorials and courses (they dont give it to the regular trial members) But some of the more useful tools that they do have are Their stock scanner you can scan for RS 12, 9, 6, and 3 months and some other stuff. Also Gary Kaultbaum, Tim Truenbach, and Mark Boucher write every week and are entirely worth your time to read. They are all CANSLIMish and in Tims case CANSLIM only or so it appears. The site does do its share of self advertising but then again so does WON but at least in my case I find the content to be worth more than enough to get past the advertising. If you are able to access the tutorials then read the Kuhn/Marder and Mark Boucher courses. I have obviously enjoyed the site. Happy Trading, David - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Bogatay Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:49 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets While chatting with the webmaster at tradingmarkets.com, he extended an offer for this mailing list. A free 3 month trial for Canslimmers. I have no affiliation whatsoever, just passing the offer along. Some of the intermediate term tutorials are very canslimmish, and they have a cup with handle scanner as well. I haven't spent much time there yet, so YMMV. http://www.tradingmarkets.com/index.cfm/trial/?src=CML - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:38:20 -0400 From: "David Rubin" Subject: [CANSLIM] CVH CVH pulling back to the pivot and below. Second opportunity or failed BO? Personally I think the volume since the breakout is suspect so I won't be nibbling here. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:40:40 -0600 From: "David Taggart" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CVH That is looking like a bigger pullback then I would trade. We will see what it does the last hour of trading. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of David Rubin Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:38 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] CVH CVH pulling back to the pivot and below. Second opportunity or failed BO? Personally I think the volume since the breakout is suspect so I won't be nibbling here. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:01:39 -0500 From: "Edward W. Gjertsen II" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets To all on the list - if you are serious about investing/trading - tradingmarkets is one of the best sites around. We have been subscribers for quite some time and continue to find new ways to learn from them. The education tutorials are amazing. Greg Kuhn used to be a contributor and he has/had a complete lesson plan on C&H formations. Very informative. There are other lesson plans from top investment professionals that anyone on this line can benefit from. I believe Katherine is very familiar with Mark Boucher whose own lesson plan on Tradingmarkets.com is phenomenal. Probably one of the most succinct tutorials available. No - I am not affiliated with TM but I am one of their most ardent supporters. Ed Gjertsen II ed@macktracks.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:30:00 -0500 From: "Alicia Lensing" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets I, too, have been using Trading Markets for years, and have learned so much from their site. The archives are great. There is a wealth of information here for traders of all types: long term, intermediate, and short-term. I highly recommend the site, too, and I am in no way affiliated with the company. Alicia - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Taggart" To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets > I dont know if they will give you full access to all of the tutorials and > courses (they dont give it to the regular trial members) But some of the > more useful tools that they do have are Their stock scanner you can scan for > RS 12, 9, 6, and 3 months and some other stuff. Also Gary Kaultbaum, Tim > Truenbach, and Mark Boucher write every week and are entirely worth your > time to read. They are all CANSLIMish and in Tims case CANSLIM only or so > it appears. The site does do its share of self advertising but then again > so does WON but at least in my case I find the content to be worth more than > enough to get past the advertising. If you are able to access the tutorials > then read the Kuhn/Marder and Mark Boucher courses. I have obviously > enjoyed the site. > > Happy Trading, > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Bogatay > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:49 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [CANSLIM] TradingMarkets > > > While chatting with the webmaster at tradingmarkets.com, he extended an > offer for this mailing list. A free 3 month trial for Canslimmers. > > I have no affiliation whatsoever, just passing the offer along. > > Some of the intermediate term tutorials are very canslimmish, and they > have a cup with handle scanner as well. I haven't spent much time there > yet, so YMMV. > > http://www.tradingmarkets.com/index.cfm/trial/?src=CML > > > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:31:41 -0400 From: "Gasta, Jeffrey" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_000_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50" - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, As a new member of this group, I have benefited greatly from folks posting their own original concepts and ideas. In some cases, DGO and IBD were one of many sources used to substantiate the presentation. I cannot appreciate IBD's exaggerated and unwarranted action towards this group. No doubt IBD has at least one attorney on staff looking to justify his/her salary. As others have said, a truly objective and fair evaluation of the information exchange between this exemplary group and IBD would conclude that IBD gains far more from us than we from them. The only difference is that this group does not have a lawyer on staff. Also, I feel they a picking on the group because it is an easy target. What is to stop anyone of us from saving charts/data from the IBD and DGO sites and then sharing that data with several friends via private e-mail? When I am knowledgeable enough to contribute to this board, I will simply create an untraceable e-mail account and post items from there. I'm sure glad that the light bulb was not invented by IBD or the music and motion picture industries. If it were, we would be paying a royalty on each bulb, and there would be a lucrative black market for importing bulbs from Canada. Sorry for this rant but IBD is really being unreasonable. jg P.S. IBD come and get me! - -----Original Message----- From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:09 PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk All... Earlier this week I got a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that my posting on July 21st of a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in violation of the Terms and Conditions of Investors.com. I've conversed with several members off list regarding this matter, and the reactions have been mixed. The point is the material they provide is proprietary. Since not everyone on this list subscribes to IBD, it's important that when you post something herein it is not in violation of their Terms and Conditions. I have my own mixed feelings, ranging from silly to respectful: Silly, because this list is one of the more respected lists out there (as in non-Yahoo-ish), and if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, this is it! You can't buy this kind of publicity! The fact that from time to time we pass along "privileged" information itself stirs curiosity amongst lurkers, whetting their appetites for more. They ultimately end up subscribing, etc, etc. I am, however, respectful, because they're right--they own the material and it's for the personal use only of subscribers. I just wonder which one of us is the "mole". C'est la vie.... Duke This email, including any attachments, was scanned by Norton Anti-Virus prior to being sent. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24AC2.8F8E3E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Message
Hello,
 
As a new member of this group, I have benefited greatly from folks posting their own original concepts and ideas.  In some cases, DGO and IBD were one of many sources used to substantiate the presentation.  I cannot appreciate IBD's exaggerated and unwarranted action towards this group.  No doubt IBD has at least one attorney on staff looking to justify his/her salary.
 
As others have said, a truly objective and fair evaluation of the information exchange between this exemplary group and IBD  would conclude that IBD gains far more from us than we from them.  The only difference is that this group does not have a lawyer on staff.  Also, I feel they a picking on the group because it is an easy target.  What is to stop anyone of us from saving charts/data from the IBD and DGO sites and then sharing that data with several friends via private e-mail?
 
When I am knowledgeable enough to contribute to this board, I will simply create an untraceable e-mail account and post items from there.  I'm sure glad that the light bulb was not invented by IBD or the music and motion picture industries.  If it were, we would be paying a royalty on each bulb, and there would be a lucrative black market for importing bulbs from Canada.
 
Sorry for this rant but IBD is really being unreasonable.  jg
 
P.S.  IBD come and get me!
-----Original Message-----
From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:09 PM
To: CANSLIM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk

All...
 
Earlier this week I got a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that my posting on July 21st of a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in violation of the Terms and Conditions of Investors.com. 
 
I've conversed with several members off list regarding this matter, and the reactions have been mixed. 
 
The point is the material they provide is proprietary.  Since not everyone on this list subscribes to IBD, it's important that when you post something herein it is not in violation of their Terms and Conditions. 
 
I have my own mixed feelings, ranging from silly to respectful: 
 
Silly, because this list is one of the more respected lists out there (as in non-Yahoo-ish), and if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, this is it!  You can't buy this kind of publicity!  The fact that from time to time we pass along "privileged" information itself stirs curiosity amongst lurkers, whetting their appetites for more. They ultimately end up subscribing, etc, etc. 
 
I am, however, respectful, because they're right--they own the material and it's for the personal use only of subscribers.  I just wonder which one of us is the "mole".
 
C'est la vie....
 
Duke
 

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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:09:37 -0700 From: "Chris Mc" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] eIBD Hello to all - yes I'm still here and learning alot thanks to all of you. Today is Friday - when I picked up our mail yesterday (Post Office delivery only in Big Bear) after being out of town Tues and Wed, I had Wednesday's paper, but no Tuesday and no Thursday. There's a 50-50 chance that I might get Thursday's today. This is no fault of IBD because I have constant delivery problems here in Big Bear and IBD has graciously extended my subscription when issues missed. If I go to the front desk and ask for the paper, sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not. For several weeks in a row, I missed Monday's paper. (I think there's an investor at the Post Office that can't afford to subscribe so he/she helps themselves to my paper) I can still get alot of info on the Website, but I still like to read the paper. It's very confusing when I read Tuesday's paper on Friday. Remember I'm still in the learning curve and like to soak in as much as possible. eIBD would be beneficial to me but still need to check into cost factor. Chris Mc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] eIBD > I have never completely understood either IBD's or DGO's pricing. It's like > it is done strictly on costs to develop, without regard to effective > marketing. Look at DGO's price for their Custom Screens (which I still say > should be an integral part of the basic subscription), or Groups data. Can > people really be so desperate for an e version of the paper a few hours > ahead of when they could get a paper copy that they will pay this premium? > Can there be so many interested subscribers that live where they cannot > subscribe to the paper version? (presumably mostly outside the USA)? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Triffet" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:03 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] eIBD > > More money??? Yikes! Add the that the one big blunder I see: PDF format. > Very slow format even with a broadband connection. It will be interesting to > see how the pricing of the paper version fares next year. Somthing smells of > increase at that end also. > > -Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:08 PM > Subject: [CANSLIM] eIBD > > > hi all, > > > > fyi, WON and friends recently announced the electronic version of IBD, > called > > eIBD. you can check it out at www.investors.com/eibdoffer/ > > > > however, given the annual subscription rate of 319$usd, which is almost > 50% > > more that the annual IBD subscription rate, i wonder how they can justify > this? > > > > Roger Tawa > > [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > Get your own "800" number > > Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more > > http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:13:17 -0700 From: David Thompson Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Breakout Blues Tom and Robert One of the concerns that I've had is that one of the principles of investing is that once a very large group of people start following a certain investment style it generally stops working. It seems that WON has kept the C&H style of selecting stocks "fresh" by more and more carefully defining what's likely to work and likely to not. However, I suspect that significant growth in IBD (and they say it's growing quickly, they're certainly giving away a lot of copies) will eventually make it more worthwhile to trade against or outside the CANSLIM model. David Thompson - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:42:41 -0500 From: "Kelly Short" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Breakout Blues David et al, Come on! I'm just starting to feel comfortable with CANSLIM. Don't go = and tell me I have to learn the opposite of CANSLIM now! My head is = spinning- I think I'll go lay down... Kelly - -----Original Message----- From: David Thompson [mailto:david@epud.net] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:13 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Breakout Blues Tom and Robert One of the concerns that I've had is that one of the principles of investing is that once a very large group of people start following a certain investment style it generally stops working. It seems that WON has kept the C&H style of selecting stocks "fresh" by more and more carefully defining what's likely to work and likely to not. However, I suspect that significant growth in IBD (and they say it's growing quickly, they're certainly giving away a lot of copies) will eventually make it more worthwhile to trade against or outside the CANSLIM model. David Thompson - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. _________________________________________________________________________= ___ For your protection, this e-mail message has been scanned for viruses. Visit us at http://www.neoris.com/ - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:51:04 -0400 From: "Duke Miller" Subject: RE: New IBD Subscriber Service; Was [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C24AAC.229C8AB0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0034_01C24AAC.229C8AB0" - ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C24AAC.229C8AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffrey: I had a thought that I edited from my original announcement, but your reply prompts me, if for no other reason than humor, to suggest something to IBD. Why don't they just start their own version of this list? I can just see the announcement now, delivered by none other than Ron Popiel, the guru of infomercials (remember, The Pocket Fisherman?). The copy in parentheses is superimposed at the bottom of the TV screen. "Tired of the same old 20-20 hindsight the folks at IBD gush in their publication and online service each day? Well relax...relief is only one more subscription away. Just sign up for our exclusive CAN SLIM list now. It's a golden opportunity for you to share all your ideas with others as well as all our editors (IBD has the exclusive right to use your thoughts and ideas whenever they please without permission). Pour over the list daily and observe as the world tries to comprehend how we get away with charging so much for a concept we ourselves convolute and contradict on a daily basis. The cost will amaze you. All you have to do is subscribe to Investors Business Daily, Daily Graphs Online, and our Premium feature that accompanies DGO. Once you've subscribed to all three, you'll be billed ONLY for what you use on the list. How much, you say? Hold on...it's not $10 a word, not $5 a word, it's ONLY $1 per word to post your original ideas (IBD retains exclusive rights to everything. See Terms and Conditions). That's not all, you pay only $5 for each email message you access to see what someone else is thinking. How good can it get? Listen, there's more. Unlike other CAN SLIM lists on the Internet, we guarantee you our attorneys will not secretly lurk in the dark abyss of cyberspace, eager to pounce on your submissions. Now isn't that alone worth the price of admission? Wait...that's not all! If you sign up before we run another ad in IBD taking credit for calling the crash of 2000, we'll send you absolutely free, a complete, autographed set of William O'Neil's books and tapes along with a life-size cutout of WON himself! Order your subscription(s) today. Call 1-800-CAN-SLIM now!" Ahhh, aren't you glad the weekend is here. I'm off 'til after Labor Day. Ya'll have fun. Duke - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gasta, Jeffrey Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:32 PM To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk Hello, As a new member of this group, I have benefited greatly from folks posting their own original concepts and ideas. In some cases, DGO and IBD were one of many sources used to substantiate the presentation. I cannot appreciate IBD's exaggerated and unwarranted action towards this group. No doubt IBD has at least one attorney on staff looking to justify his/her salary. As others have said, a truly objective and fair evaluation of the information exchange between this exemplary group and IBD would conclude that IBD gains far more from us than we from them. The only difference is that this group does not have a lawyer on staff. Also, I feel they a picking on the group because it is an easy target. What is to stop anyone of us from saving charts/data from the IBD and DGO sites and then sharing that data with several friends via private e-mail? When I am knowledgeable enough to contribute to this board, I will simply create an untraceable e-mail account and post items from there. I'm sure glad that the light bulb was not invented by IBD or the music and motion picture industries. If it were, we would be paying a royalty on each bulb, and there would be a lucrative black market for importing bulbs from Canada. Sorry for this rant but IBD is really being unreasonable. jg P.S. IBD come and get me! - -----Original Message----- From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:09 PM To: CANSLIM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk All... Earlier this week I got a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that my posting on July 21st of a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in violation of the Terms and Conditions of Investors.com. I've conversed with several members off list regarding this matter, and the reactions have been mixed. The point is the material they provide is proprietary. Since not everyone on this list subscribes to IBD, it's important that when you post something herein it is not in violation of their Terms and Conditions. I have my own mixed feelings, ranging from silly to respectful: Silly, because this list is one of the more respected lists out there (as in non-Yahoo-ish), and if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, this is it! You can't buy this kind of publicity! The fact that from time to time we pass along "privileged" information itself stirs curiosity amongst lurkers, whetting their appetites for more. They ultimately end up subscribing, etc, etc. I am, however, respectful, because they're right--they own the material and it's for the personal use only of subscribers. I just wonder which one of us is the "mole". C'est la vie.... Duke This email, including any attachments, was scanned by Norton Anti-Virus prior to being sent. - ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C24AAC.229C8AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Jeffrey:
 
I had a thought = that I=20 edited from my original announcement, but your reply prompts me, if for = no other=20 reason than humor, to suggest something to IBD.  =
 
Why don't they = just start=20 their own version of this list?  I can just see the announcement = now,=20 delivered by none other than Ron Popiel, the guru of infomercials = (remember, The=20 Pocket Fisherman?).  The copy in parentheses is superimposed at the = bottom=20 of the TV screen. 
 
"Tired of the = same old=20 20-20 hindsight the folks at IBD gush in their = publication=20 and online service each day?  Well relax...relief is only one = more=20 subscription away.  Just sign up for our exclusive CAN SLIM list = now. =20 It's a golden opportunity for you to share all your ideas with = others as=20 well as all our editors (IBD has the exclusive right to use your = thoughts=20 and ideas whenever they please without permission).  Pour over = the=20 list daily and observe as the world tries to comprehend how we = get=20 away with charging so much for a concept we ourselves convolute and=20 contradict on a daily basis.   The cost will amaze=20 you.  All you have to do is subscribe to Investors Business Daily, = Daily=20 Graphs Online, and our Premium feature that accompanies DGO.  Once = you've=20 subscribed to all three, you'll be billed ONLY for what you use on the=20 list.  How much, you say?  Hold on...it's not $10 a word, not = $5 a=20 word, it's ONLY $1 per word to post your original ideas (IBD retains = exclusive=20 rights to everything.  See Terms and Conditions).  That's not = all, you=20 pay only $5 for each email message you access to see what = someone=20 else is thinking.  How good can it get?  Listen, there's = more. =20 Unlike other CAN SLIM lists on the Internet, we guarantee you our = attorneys will=20 not secretly lurk in the dark abyss of cyberspace, eager to pounce on = your=20 submissions.  Now isn't that alone worth the price of = admission? =20 Wait...that's not all!  If you sign up before we run another ad in = IBD=20 taking credit for calling the crash of 2000, we'll send you absolutely = free, a=20 complete, autographed set of William O'Neil's books and tapes along = with a=20 life-size cutout of WON himself!  Order your subscription(s) = today. =20 Call 1-800-CAN-SLIM now!"
 
Ahhh, aren't = you glad the=20 weekend is here.
 
I'm off 'til = after Labor=20 Day.  Ya'll have fun.
 
Duke
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Gasta, Jeffrey
Sent: Friday, August 23, = 2002=20 12:32 PM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: = RE:=20 [CANSLIM] IBD Cops Lurk

Hello,
 
As a=20 new member of this group, I have benefited greatly from folks posting=20 their own original concepts and ideas.  In some cases, DGO = and IBD=20 were one of many sources used to substantiate the presentation.  = I cannot=20 appreciate IBD's exaggerated and unwarranted action towards this = group. =20 No doubt IBD has at least one attorney on staff looking to justify = his/her=20 salary.
 
As=20 others have said, a truly objective and fair evaluation of the = information=20 exchange between this exemplary group and IBD  would conclude = that IBD=20 gains far more from us than we from them.  The only difference is = that=20 this group does not have a lawyer on staff.  Also, I feel they a = picking=20 on the group because it is an easy target.  What is to stop = anyone of us=20 from saving charts/data from the IBD and DGO sites and then sharing = that data=20 with several friends via private e-mail?
 
When=20 I am knowledgeable enough to contribute to this board, I will simply = create an=20 untraceable e-mail account and post items from there.  I'm sure = glad that=20 the light bulb was not invented by IBD or the music and motion picture = industries.  If it were, we would be paying a royalty on each = bulb, and=20 there would be a lucrative black market for importing bulbs from=20 Canada.
 
Sorry for this rant but IBD is really being = unreasonable. =20 jg
 
P.S.  IBD come and get me!
-----Original Message-----
From: Duke Miller=20 [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, August = 22, 2002=20 6:09 PM
To: CANSLIM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD Cops=20 Lurk

All...
 
Earlier = this week I got=20 a Certified Letter from IBD warning me that my posting on July = 21st of=20 a spreadsheet from Screen of the Day is in violation of the Terms = and=20 Conditions of Investors.com. 
 
I've = conversed with=20 several members off list regarding this matter, and the reactions = have been=20 mixed. 
 
The point = is the=20 material they provide is proprietary.  Since not everyone = on this=20 list subscribes to IBD, it's important that when you post something = herein=20 it is not in violation of their Terms and Conditions. =20
 
I have my = own mixed=20 feelings, ranging from silly to respectful:  =
 
Silly, = because this=20 list is one of the more respected lists out there (as in = non-Yahoo-ish), and=20 if ever there was a bonanza freebie for IBD, this is it!  You = can't buy=20 this kind of publicity!  The fact that from time to time we = pass along=20 "privileged" information itself stirs curiosity amongst lurkers, = whetting=20 their appetites for more. They ultimately end up subscribing, etc,=20 etc. 
 
I am, = however,=20 respectful, because they're right--they own the material and it's = for the=20 personal use only of subscribers.  I just wonder which one of = us is the=20 "mole".
 
C'est la=20 vie....
 
Duke
 

This email, including any attachments, was scanned = by Norton=20 Anti-Virus prior to being sent.

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