From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #287 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, June 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 287 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming--Tim Re: [CANSLIM] World Market Charts @ Yahoo! Yippee! RE: [CANSLIM] -- Not Canslim - Nikkei Re: [CANSLIM] AMZN [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI {Connie} Re: [CANSLIM] No such symbol: FFGI Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming [CANSLIM] FTP Server - Has it changed? Re: [CANSLIM] No such symbol: FFGI Re: [CANSLIM] No such symbol: FFGI Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming Re: [CANSLIM] No such symbol: FFGI Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI [Connie] [CANSLIM] Re: Connie Mack on DB Re: [CANSLIM] FTP Server - Has it changed? Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming--Jeff Re: [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI {Connie} [CANSLIM] Re: Spamming - subscribers email address available? Re: [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI {Connie} Re: Uselessness of DJIA (Was: Re: [CANSLIM] The NAZ ) Re: Uselessness of DJIA (Was: Re: [CANSLIM] The NAZ ) Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Connie Mack on DB [CANSLIM] Index Derivatives Re: Uselessness of DJIA (Was: Re: [CANSLIM] The NAZ ) [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim]--Steve [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) Re: [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] Re: [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) Re: [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:11:32 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming <> I contacted Jeff about it. I'm hoping that he got only those names that posted while he was on the list and that the list is not available for distribution. This is the first junk mail I've received since I left AOL. Which says something about AOL. - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming Yeah, he was using the list to get all our emails. Jeff, is the subscriber list private? If not, can you make it so? He's doing the same thing as ClearStation did, mining our emails from the list, which I take offense to, naturally. Db: These guys can't help it so once they convince someone they aren't running scam they turn around and shoot themselves in the foot anyway. I laughed so hard when he claimed to own "Hooters" (national nudie bar chain), I almost fell off my chair. P.S. I am trying to get his domain shut down with Internic as well. Spamming violates your domain agreement with them. I encourage you to email complaints@internic.net and ask that ionline.net have their domain revoked due to spamming. Cc: kpr@IONLINE.NET - that is their offical contact address. At 06:35 AM 6/16/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Look what I got in the mail! Surprise! Surprise! > >Tim, Dave, your first impulses were the right ones. I hope this idiot >is still off the list. > >--Db > > Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site PFB Information mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com WWW http://OreRockOn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming--Tim <> Have done so, only without the "copy to". I'd rather not hear anything further from this jerk. - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:50:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Surindra J. Singh" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] World Market Charts @ Yahoo! Yippee! I think top ten (points high, low; % high, low; market data etc.) is real time and is free. Gainers/loosers start at about 9:31 AM. I am not sure and they do not tell you it is real time. Have a wonderful day. Surindra On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Thomas A. Moulton wrote: > > They update it continuously. > > If you like streaming charts check out "Live! Charts" at www.quote.com > > Most stock, option and index symbols work. > > You can also watch a variable number of minutes > (or days, weeks, months) > > It's nice. > > (delayed data free) > > -- > Thomas A. Moulton, W2VY > > > > > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:28:36 -0400 From: "Nelson E. Timken, Esq." Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] -- Not Canslim - Nikkei Oh man! This will kill the Dow tomorrow, as I feared. I think we will be down 500 for the week. Nelson E. Timken Contact me at: http://onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/investing-list - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Frank V. Wolynski Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 9:20 PM To: canslim@mail.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] -- Not Canslim - Nikkei Mikkei 225 down 1% during first 5 minutes of trading. Complete story below: http://biz.yahoo.com/finance/980615/tokyo_stoc_3.html Regards, Frank Wolynski - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:30:49 -0400 From: Ari Lawson Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] AMZN Jeffry, I for one, am a fairly sarcastic personality also.However ,i try very hard to let people understand what i'm saying,especially concerning MONEY!Are you saying AMZN should be shorted or are you the boy that cried WOLF??? Obviously,with the risk of myself being as Jeffry White wrote: > > Does anybody think AMZN looks like a good long entry here, or is it a > bit extended beyond the buy point? ;) > > Jeffry > > -What the hell are you really saying?According to o'neil's book,long term is not what most think 'long term'is.Please say what you mean!!!I for one don't have time to write long responses to messages that are not clear!Plus i'm a lousy speller and it's very time consuming!Please except my appoligy if i'm mistaken. SINCERLY! ARI - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:39:44 -0400 From: Connie Mack Rea Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI {Connie} Members-- Two have said they couldn't get a market on FFGI. I've just returned to find that my orders were cancelled. The broker tells me that the market maker has not opened the stock. The broker knows knowing else about the delay. Sorry to have inconvenienced any other member. Connie Mack - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:48:01 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] No such symbol: FFGI How about there is no such symbol: FFGI. At least on Yahoo.=20 At 08:39 AM 6/16/98 , you wrote: >Members-- > >Two have said they couldn't get a market on FFGI. > >I've just returned to find that my orders were cancelled.=A0 The broker >tells me that the market maker has not opened the stock.=A0 The broker >knows knowing else about the delay. > >Sorry to have inconvenienced any other member. > >Connie Mack > > >- >=20 Tim Fisher Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites mailto:Tim@OreRockOn.com WWW: http://OreRockOn.com See naked fish and rocks! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:53:15 -0400 From: Robert Bomba <73223.2767@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming >> I got it too! Probably all of us? << Not me. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:53:16 -0400 From: Robert Bomba <73223.2767@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming >> I laughed so hard when he claimed to own "Hooters" (national nudie bar chain), << Nothing nude about Hooters. short-shorts & tight tops is the most you can hope for :-( Bob - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:55:08 -0400 From: "Frank V. Wolynski" Subject: [CANSLIM] FTP Server - Has it changed? I am receiving the following message when trying to log into the ftp server to upload a file. FTP Error Could not login to FTP server User anonymous unknown. The URL I am using: ftp://chaos.csd.sdl.usu.edu/pub/incoming/ Anyone know if it has changed? I have a file I'd like to upload for the group. Frank Wolynski - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:07:12 -0400 From: "Frank V. Wolynski" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] No such symbol: FFGI Seems to me FFGI was bought out, but can't remember by who.=20 quicken site has a profile and when looking up SEC filings, they=20 filed a (15-12G) (Notice of Termination of Registration) on 5/29.=20 Regards, Frank Wolynski At 08:48 AM 6/16/98 -0700, Tim Fisher wrote: >How about there is no such symbol: FFGI. At least on Yahoo.=20 > >At 08:39 AM 6/16/98 , you wrote: >>Members-- >> >>Two have said they couldn't get a market on FFGI. >> >>I've just returned to find that my orders were cancelled.=A0 The broker >>tells me that the market maker has not opened the stock.=A0 The broker >>knows knowing else about the delay. >> >>Sorry to have inconvenienced any other member. >> >>Connie Mack >> >> >>- >>=20 >Tim Fisher >Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites > >mailto:Tim@OreRockOn.com >WWW: http://OreRockOn.com >See naked fish and rocks! > >- > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:11:22 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] No such symbol: FFGI <> You think there's still time to get in? ;) - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming Yeah, he was using the list to get all our emails. Jeff, is the subscriber list private? If not, can you make it so? He's doing the same thing as ClearStation did, mining our emails from the list, which I take offense to, naturally. Db: These guys can't help it so once they convince someone they aren't running scam they turn around and shoot themselves in the foot anyway. I laughed so hard when he claimed to own "Hooters" (national nudie bar chain), I almost fell off my chair. P.S. I am trying to get his domain shut down with Internic as well. Spamming violates your domain agreement with them. I encourage you to email complaints@internic.net and ask that ionline.net have their domain revoked due to spamming. Cc: kpr@IONLINE.NET - that is their offical contact address. 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Wolynski wrote: > > Seems to me FFGI was bought out, but can't remember by who. > quicken site has a profile and when looking up SEC filings, they > filed a (15-12G) (Notice of Termination of Registration) on 5/29. > > Regards, > Frank Wolynski > > At 08:48 AM 6/16/98 -0700, Tim Fisher wrote: > >How about there is no such symbol: FFGI. At least on Yahoo. > > > >At 08:39 AM 6/16/98 , you wrote: > >>Members-- > >> > >>Two have said they couldn't get a market on FFGI. > >> > >>I've just returned to find that my orders were cancelled. The broker > >>tells me that the market maker has not opened the stock. The broker > >>knows knowing else about the delay. > >> > >>Sorry to have inconvenienced any other member. > >> > >>Connie Mack > >> > >> > >>- > >> > >Tim Fisher > >Ore-Rock-On and Pacific Fishery Biologists WWW Sites > > > >mailto:Tim@OreRockOn.com > >WWW: http://OreRockOn.com > >See naked fish and rocks! > > > >- > > > > > > - http://www.marketwatch.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=Cnw4YWbKbytaXmtm&FQ=c%25ffgi%20&Title=Headlines%20for%3A%20ffgi%0A bougt out by cbtsy - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:44:23 -0600 From: jeff@scrooge.csd.sdl.usu.edu (Jeff Salisbury) Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming > > Yeah, he was using the list to get all our emails. Jeff, is the subscriber > list private? If not, can you make it so? He's doing the same thing as > ClearStation did, mining our emails from the list, which I take offense to, > naturally. Mr. Hooters is off the list, and I just reconfigured the list to make it "private" -- that is, every new subscriber will need to be approved before they are actually added to the group. Mr. Hooters will never mine another email from our group again... As for the letter that Db and others received directly from Mr. Hooters, he (Hooters) attempted to post the same message to the entire canslim group 3 times last night. However, before I invited Mr. Hooters back yesterday, I put some filters in place to keep an eye on him. The filters worked and intercepted his spams. He's gone... Regards, Jeff - canslim owner/admin > > Db: These guys can't help it so once they convince someone they aren't > running scam they turn around and shoot themselves in the foot anyway. I > laughed so hard when he claimed to own "Hooters" (national nudie bar chain), > I almost fell off my chair. > > P.S. I am trying to get his domain shut down with Internic as well. Spamming > violates your domain agreement with them. > I encourage you to email complaints@internic.net and ask that ionline.net > have their domain revoked due to spamming. Cc: kpr@IONLINE.NET - that is > their offical contact address. > > At 06:35 AM 6/16/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Look what I got in the mail! Surprise! Surprise! > > > >Tim, Dave, your first impulses were the right ones. I hope this idiot > >is still off the list. > > > >--Db > > > > > >Date: > > Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:13:40 -0400 (EDT) > > From: > > hooters@lon.ionline.net Add to Address Book > > To: > > hooters@lon.ionline.net > > Subject: > > YOUR $125 GIFT FROM A FRIEND OR A CO-WORKER > > > > > > > > < A M S T O C K P I > >C > >K S > > > > FOR THE SERIOUS INVESTOR > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:44:21 -0400 From: Connie Mack Rea Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI [Connie] Frank, Tim, and Robert-- Thanks for the oversight on FFGI. Ameritrade accepted my orders this morning before the market opened. Since there was a full acceptance of the orders, I didn't suspect there would be a problem. When I called Ameritrade, I was sent through three departments, each succeeding one no more help than the previous. The last suggested that I call the company. Nope. I traded over 350 times last year. I don't do the broker's job. I spoke with one of the managers who has since got back to me. Other than the manager, none of the three people I spoke with is as smart as you three. My scan does not attend to the last trade date. I do see now that 5-28 is the last close on BigCharts. My apology for mistake. Thanks, fellows. Appreciate your help. Connie Mack - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:47:55 -0400 From: Connie Mack Rea Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Connie Mack on DB You're being recidivous, DB. Am I going to have to spank you again. Connie Mack dbphoenix wrote: > < quicken site has a profile and when looking up SEC filings, they > filed a (15-12G) (Notice of Termination of Registration) on 5/29. > > Regards, > Frank Wolynski>> > > You think there's still time to get in? ;) > > --Db > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FTP Server - Has it changed? Send it here, Frank, then notify Jeff that you've uploaded the file and give him the filename so he can transfer it to the CS file. He'll then let you know when it's done and provide you with a hotlink to give to the group. "ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/m/mcjathan/incoming/". - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:55:00 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming--Jeff <> A big-time thanks, Jeff! - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:04:25 -0700 From: Bill Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI {Connie} FFGI merged with CBT on 5/29/98, Connie. They are now part of CBT. Bill-->. - -------- Connie Mack Rea wrote: > > Members-- > > Two have said they couldn't get a market on FFGI. > > I've just returned to find that my orders were cancelled. The broker > tells me that the market maker has not opened the stock. The broker > knows knowing else about the delay. > > Sorry to have inconvenienced any other member. > > Connie Mack > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:06:21 -0600 From: jeff@scrooge.csd.sdl.usu.edu (Jeff Salisbury) Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Spamming - subscribers email address available? Db, Mr. Hooters got your address and others by picking them out of the public postings, not from the subscription list. If you haven't posted while Mr. Hooeters was here, you should not have received a message from him. Long ago, I configured the list to prevent anyone from obtaining the list of people's email addresses. It is also worth mentioning here that I will NEVER sell or trade or give away the canslim subscription list (or any other list I run). At some point, I may allow a minimal amount of advertising on the list to offset my costs. However, no advertiser will ever be allowed to see or have the subscription list. Also, any advertising will be tastefull and on-topic. Jeff - canslim owner/admin On Jun 16, 6:35am, dbphoenix wrote: > Subject: Re: Spamming > > Jeff, > > I received the following from that guy that you removed from the list > yesterday. I don't know how all that was resolved and whether he was > invited back on or not, but he clearly is interested in selling > something. I'm hoping he got my name and address from his brief stay > and not because the member list is available. > > If he has been reinstituted, I hope he'll be removed again. > > --Db > >-- End of excerpt from dbphoenix - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:19:25 -0400 From: Connie Mack Rea Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] RE: FFGI {Connie} Bill-- Thanks for your thoughtfulness. Am finally squared with my broker and his tardy updating. Connie Mack Bill wrote: > FFGI merged with CBT on 5/29/98, Connie. They are now part of CBT. > > Bill-->. > -------- > > Connie Mack Rea wrote: > > > > Members-- > > > > Two have said they couldn't get a market on FFGI. > > > > I've just returned to find that my orders were cancelled. The broker > > tells me that the market maker has not opened the stock. The broker > > knows knowing else about the delay. > > > > Sorry to have inconvenienced any other member. > > > > Connie Mack > > > > - > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:22:03 -0800 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: Re: Uselessness of DJIA (Was: Re: [CANSLIM] The NAZ ) > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:55:39 -0500 > From: Dave Cameron > My main point (although a bit tongue-in-cheek) is that the DJIA is WAY, > WAY, WAY over-rated. It is only 30 stocks. I own mutual funds which > own more than that - maybe we can use them as a market gauge. Ultimately all the indices go the same way, although they can diverge for a month or two at a time. For the broad market I like to look at the S&P, smaller stuff I like to look at the Russell 2000, and the NASDAQ seems to be a good measure of technology. BTW, I've noticed that the Russell tends to have more persistent, less volatile trends than the large cap indices - maybe less institutional money churning the thing up than the large caps. Anyone who thinks they are good at calling market direction could clean up in the Russell 2000 futures, which are priced at $500 a point. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:48:02 -0700 From: "James B. Andrews" Subject: Re: Uselessness of DJIA (Was: Re: [CANSLIM] The NAZ ) Question,, Is there a trading vehicle(a way) to buy and sell any of the indexes >without< getting into futures??? That can be done through a stock broker and not a commodities broker??? Thank You for all Replys... Jim At 10:22 AM 6/16/98 -0800, you wrote: >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:55:39 -0500 >> From: Dave Cameron > >> My main point (although a bit tongue-in-cheek) is that the DJIA is WAY, >> WAY, WAY over-rated. It is only 30 stocks. I own mutual funds which >> own more than that - maybe we can use them as a market gauge. > >Ultimately all the indices go the same way, although they can diverge >for a month or two at a time. For the broad market I like to look at >the S&P, smaller stuff I like to look at the Russell 2000, and the >NASDAQ seems to be a good measure of technology. BTW, I've noticed >that the Russell tends to have more persistent, less volatile trends >than the large cap indices - maybe less institutional money churning >the thing up than the large caps. Anyone who thinks they are good at >calling market direction could clean up in the Russell 2000 futures, >which are priced at $500 a point. > > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: Connie Mack on DB <> Beat me, hurt me, call me Helen, but tell me that you love me :) - --Db *smooch* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:23:50 -0700 From: Bill Subject: [CANSLIM] Index Derivatives DIA, SPY, MDY come to mind. There are others. Check the AMEX home page at http://www.amex.com/ for SPDRs and WEBS. James B. Andrews wrote: > > Question,, Is there a trading vehicle(a way) to buy and sell any of the > indexes >without< getting into futures??? That can be done through a stock > broker and not a commodities broker??? > > Thank You for all Replys... > > Jim - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: Uselessness of DJIA (Was: Re: [CANSLIM] The NAZ ) <without< getting into futures??? That can be done through a stock broker and not a commodities broker??? Thank You for all Replys... Jim>> Yes. You can trade the Dow by using "diamonds", symbol DIA. You can trade the S&P500 by using "spiders", symbol SPY. And you can trade the S&P midcaps by using symbol MDY. - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) From: lup@kamakura.engr.sgi.com (Lup Keen Ng) Subject: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] | | Yes. You can trade the Dow by using "diamonds", symbol DIA. You can | trade the S&P500 by using "spiders", symbol SPY. And you can trade | the S&P midcaps by using symbol MDY. | | --Db | Do you think buying and holding SPY (or MDY) is a good way to diversify? A good long-term strategy? Is there any rules on trading SPY? I was thinking of buying an SP500 index fund, but if I buy SPY, then I won't have to pay the management fees... thanks, Lup - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:47:43 -0400 From: Peter Newell Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Spamming It's pretty easy to scan the archives for email addresses works the same as with newsgroups. Peter Newell - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] <> If you're asking me personally, it would depend on your investment goals and strategy. Unless somebody knows something I don't (which is likely), it's no different from buying an index fund, except without the fees, as you point out. If you had already decided that an index fund fits in with your plan and were planning on buying one anyway, why not? Remember, though, that SPYs are not cheap. They're a tenth of the S&P, or around $100. You won't be able to make monthly contributions as you can to a fund. You'll have to save up until you can buy enough shares to make the transaction worthwhile. Technically, you can buy one share. But the commission cost, even at $10, would be a bit steep percentage-wise. But then you can always make quarterly purchases. Or every tri-mester. It all depends on your particular situation. - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:11:21 -0700 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] Lup. Finally a long time lurker gets to post on something he knows a little about. Spy carries a management fee of about 0.2%. No special rules on trading, can be held long or short. Advantage: Real time trading. Can be shorted. Extremely liquid. Disadvantage: No automatic reinvestment of dividends. Commission on every trade - important if you frequently add to or take from position. Steve Grier - -----Original Message----- From: Lup Keen Ng To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 11:35 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] > >| >| Yes. You can trade the Dow by using "diamonds", symbol DIA. You can >| trade the S&P500 by using "spiders", symbol SPY. And you can trade >| the S&P midcaps by using symbol MDY. >| >| --Db >| > >Do you think buying and holding SPY (or MDY) is a good way to >diversify? A good long-term strategy? >Is there any rules on trading SPY? > >I was thinking of buying an SP500 index fund, but if I buy SPY, >then I won't have to pay the management fees... > >thanks, >Lup > > >- > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:30:55 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim]--Steve <> Thanks, Steve. I did some preliminary research on this a few weeks ago and found no mention of a management fee. I'm glad you corrected me. - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:01:17 -0400 From: "Frank V. Wolynski" Subject: [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) Support/Resistance may not be telling all there is about a market/security. Therefore I have uploaded a weekly chart of the OTC using a MACD, and MACD Histogram (Oscillator). Dr. Elder in 'Trading for A Living' states the weekly is a good trend indicator. See it at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/m/mcjathan/canslim/Otc_MACD.GIF I would tend to concur after viewing the chart. Notice how the MACD Oscillator changes direction and turns less negative during the later phases of a correction. I couldn't get Bigcharts or Equis to do a MACD histogram, but it may be available at other sites. Best Regards, Frank Wolynski - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:48:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Tannis Malone Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) I appreciate the charts from all of you. Does anyone know how to print out the charts without the black background? I'd like to do some drawing and measuring on them. EdM (another lurker trying to learn) - ---"Frank V. Wolynski" wrote: > > Support/Resistance may not be telling all there is about a market/security. > Therefore I have uploaded a weekly chart of the OTC using a MACD, and MACD > Histogram (Oscillator). > > Dr. Elder in 'Trading for A Living' states the weekly is a good trend > indicator. > > See it at: > ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/m/mcjathan/canslim/Otc_MACD.GIF > > I would tend to concur after viewing the chart. Notice how the MACD > Oscillator changes direction and turns less negative during the later > phases of a correction. > > I couldn't get Bigcharts or Equis to do a MACD histogram, but it may be > available at other sites. > > Best Regards, > > Frank Wolynski > > > - > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:49:36 -0400 From: Craig Griffin Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] At 12:11 PM 6/16/98 -0700, Steve wrote: >Spy carries a management fee of about 0.2%. No special rules on trading, can >be held long or short. If I remember correctly, Vanguard's S&P500 fund has an extremely low expense ratio. They may limit the number of times you can trade in and out in a year, but 2 or 3 times is probably no problem. Other advantages and disadvantages of funds vs. SPY as you outlined. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:51:03 -0400 From: Craig Griffin Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) Thanks Frank. Very interesting. Looks like the red line crossing the blue would have given a reliable indication that the rally underway was the beginning of a new uptrend. Using Quotes Plus to draw the same chart - the crossing points for the buys since 1990 would have been: 11/90, 01/92, 08/91 *F, 08/92, 06/93, 01/94 *F, 08/94, 01/95, 02/96, 09/96, 05/97, and 02/98. I did not look back carefully, but I believe these dates might have been a little late compared to an O'Neil follow through day (still they got you back in with the bull back underway). The *F's were two fakeout signals (in which the uptrend did not actually resume). MACD is easier to look for than a follow through day - but likely to miss some of the action. At 04:01 PM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote: >Support/Resistance may not be telling all there is about a market/security. >Therefore I have uploaded a weekly chart of the OTC using a MACD, and MACD >Histogram (Oscillator). > >Dr. Elder in 'Trading for A Living' states the weekly is a good trend >indicator. > >See it at: >ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/m/mcjathan/canslim/Otc_MACD.GIF > >I would tend to concur after viewing the chart. Notice how the MACD >Oscillator changes direction and turns less negative during the later >phases of a correction. > >I couldn't get Bigcharts or Equis to do a MACD histogram, but it may be >available at other sites. > >Best Regards, > >Frank Wolynski > > >- > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:02:37 -0700 From: Bill Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OTC Chart w/MACD & Histogram (Oscillator) Depends on your printer and driver. If you have a Postscript Laserwriter, one of the standard PostScript options is a setting to INVERT the image when printing. Bill-->> Tannis Malone wrote: > > I appreciate the charts from all of you. Does anyone know how to > print out the charts without the black background? I'd like to do > some drawing and measuring on them. > > EdM (another lurker trying to learn) > > ---"Frank V. Wolynski" wrote: > > > > Support/Resistance may not be telling all there is about a > market/security. > > Therefore I have uploaded a weekly chart of the OTC using a MACD, > and MACD > > Histogram (Oscillator). > > > > Dr. Elder in 'Trading for A Living' states the weekly is a good trend > > indicator. > > > > See it at: > > ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/m/mcjathan/canslim/Otc_MACD.GIF > > > > I would tend to concur after viewing the chart. Notice how the MACD > > Oscillator changes direction and turns less negative during the later > > phases of a correction. > > > > I couldn't get Bigcharts or Equis to do a MACD histogram, but it may > be > > available at other sites. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Frank Wolynski > > > > > > - > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:06:51 -0700 From: Bill Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] SPY [non-canslim] Add - you can short a SPY without an uptick! Bill-->> - --------------- Craig Griffin wrote: > > At 12:11 PM 6/16/98 -0700, Steve wrote: > >Spy carries a management fee of about 0.2%. No special rules on trading, can > >be held long or short. > > If I remember correctly, Vanguard's S&P500 fund has an extremely low > expense ratio. They may limit the number of times you can trade in and out > in a year, but 2 or 3 times is probably no problem. Other advantages and > disadvantages of funds vs. SPY as you outlined. > > - - - ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #287 ***************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.