From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2954 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Wednesday, September 25 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2954 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" Re: [CANSLIM] "M" [CANSLIM] Please DO NOT repost IBD articles Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 09/20/02 [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM Re: [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM Re: [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM Re: [CANSLIM] Gold setups Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 09/20/02 Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 09/20/02 [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] Re: [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] Re: [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] Re: [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] Re: [CANSLIM] Please DO NOT repost IBD articles Re: [CANSLIM] "M" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:03:42 -1000 From: "Mike Gibbons" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" I can read IBD's editorials in the newspaper, thank you. Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Spencer48@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:39 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Kent et al: This is perhaps off Canslim topic, but this idiotic bill (IBD editorial below) most likely will affect the California economy deleteriously, especially the businesses with "N" in Canslim, but not a lot of free cash-flow. Davis should be charged for criminally choking off new businesses (not to mention established small businesses). This piece is from 9/24/02 IBD Issues and Insights, and the political climate it signifies is one more reason in my opinion not to move on out to California. jans Issues & Insights, Wednesday, September 25, 2002, California Chill, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Family Leave: The Golden State has created a new entitlement, and big labor wants other states to follow. The smart ones will take California's jobs instead. Gov. Gray Davis this week signed the nation's first law providing workers with paid family leave. For the unions, it's time to pop the champagne. For employers, it's another reason to leave the state. Nearly all private-sector workers in the state now have the right to leave for up to six weeks, drawing 55% of their pay, to care for ill parents, children or domestic partners, or spend bonding time with a newly adopted child. This benefit is to be funded from workers' paychecks through an added payroll deduction expected to start at $26 a year on average and ranging up to $70 for workers earning more than $72,000 a year. There are ways to deal with family needs short of mandating a new social insurance scheme backed by a tax increase. A more business-friendly state might have opted for some mix of tax credits and voluntary action. California's approach is to give workers what they want and hope employers don't decamp to more hospitable states. What really should worry California employers - and, ultimately, workers who depend on jobs in the state - is the inevitable pressure to pump the program into something far bigger and more costly. If it's popular, workers will want more of it and lawmakers will find a way to make employers pay. The initial California bill called for 12 weeks of paid leave, with employers shouldering part of the cost. Business lobbyists pared the leave time and got employers off the hook, for now, but they were helped by political conditions that may not repeat themselves. Davis, a Democrat in a surprisingly tight race with political novice Bill Simon, doesn't want to scare business donors. So the stars were aligned for some moderation. But if Davis is re-elected, he won't have much reason to hold back the liberal state legislature. For organized labor, the California law is just a start. The AFL-CIO and other unions are pushing for similar laws in nearly 30 states and they want employers to foot the bills. Smart states, of course, will pass on those laws and take California's jobs instead. And don't think California's business-climate change has gone unnoticed. In a survey of executives released this week by the marketing firm Development Counsellors International, 57% of them ranked California the worst place in the country to do business. In 1999, only 25% of them felt this way. Davis and the legislature have already dimmed the state's once-sunny reputation. Their paid-leave law will just add to the chill. In a message dated 9/24/2002 6:06:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kent_norman@yahoo.com writes: << If low interest rates alone could save the day, they would have already. I doubt a business manager would delay a project for a fraction of a point interest. I think they are really too scared to commit to new projects due to low visibility and distracted by having to double check the financial statements. Regards Kent --- Spencer48@aol.com wrote: > Kent: > > This (shell-shocked investors) is the main reason that IBD > states, in > IBD's editorial today, that the Fed should cut interest rates. To > put it in > James Carville speak, 'it's no longer the economy stupid, but rather: > "It's > the psychology, stupid." > > To paraphrase the editorial, IBD says that the even though the > economy > is coming around (albeit feebly), it is the psychological pounding > that > individual investors have taken since 2000 that will prompt investors > to > start investing again once interest rates are cut-and which will also > boost > more IPO's, venture capitalizations and start-up businesses. > > Personally, I think this is too much to ask, and think that > business and > personal tax cuts are more likely to lead to a rejuvenation of both > the > economy and the stock market. > > jans >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:09:10 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" jans, I disagree, I see this as reasonable, and likely to build strong employee loyalty, rather than losing a trained and experienced employee who has to be replaced by a new one. I wish I could have taken off work for the last three weeks of my wife's life, rather than only able to visit her in the hospital early morning and late at night, to accommodate the demands of my job. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Kent et al: This is perhaps off Canslim topic, but this idiotic bill (IBD editorial below) most likely will affect the California economy deleteriously, especially the businesses with "N" in Canslim, but not a lot of free cash-flow. Davis should be charged for criminally choking off new businesses (not to mention established small businesses). This piece is from 9/24/02 IBD Issues and Insights, and the political climate it signifies is one more reason in my opinion not to move on out to California. jans Issues & Insights, Wednesday, September 25, 2002, California Chill, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Family Leave: The Golden State has created a new entitlement, and big labor wants other states to follow. The smart ones will take California's jobs instead. Gov. Gray Davis this week signed the nation's first law providing workers with paid family leave. For the unions, it's time to pop the champagne. For employers, it's another reason to leave the state. Nearly all private-sector workers in the state now have the right to leave for up to six weeks, drawing 55% of their pay, to care for ill parents, children or domestic partners, or spend bonding time with a newly adopted child. This benefit is to be funded from workers' paychecks through an added payroll deduction expected to start at $26 a year on average and ranging up to $70 for workers earning more than $72,000 a year. There are ways to deal with family needs short of mandating a new social insurance scheme backed by a tax increase. A more business-friendly state might have opted for some mix of tax credits and voluntary action. California's approach is to give workers what they want and hope employers don't decamp to more hospitable states. What really should worry California employers - and, ultimately, workers who depend on jobs in the state - is the inevitable pressure to pump the program into something far bigger and more costly. If it's popular, workers will want more of it and lawmakers will find a way to make employers pay. The initial California bill called for 12 weeks of paid leave, with employers shouldering part of the cost. Business lobbyists pared the leave time and got employers off the hook, for now, but they were helped by political conditions that may not repeat themselves. Davis, a Democrat in a surprisingly tight race with political novice Bill Simon, doesn't want to scare business donors. So the stars were aligned for some moderation. But if Davis is re-elected, he won't have much reason to hold back the liberal state legislature. For organized labor, the California law is just a start. The AFL-CIO and other unions are pushing for similar laws in nearly 30 states and they want employers to foot the bills. Smart states, of course, will pass on those laws and take California's jobs instead. And don't think California's business-climate change has gone unnoticed. In a survey of executives released this week by the marketing firm Development Counsellors International, 57% of them ranked California the worst place in the country to do business. In 1999, only 25% of them felt this way. Davis and the legislature have already dimmed the state's once-sunny reputation. Their paid-leave law will just add to the chill. In a message dated 9/24/2002 6:06:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kent_norman@yahoo.com writes: << If low interest rates alone could save the day, they would have already. I doubt a business manager would delay a project for a fraction of a point interest. I think they are really too scared to commit to new projects due to low visibility and distracted by having to double check the financial statements. Regards Kent --- Spencer48@aol.com wrote: > Kent: > > This (shell-shocked investors) is the main reason that IBD > states, in > IBD's editorial today, that the Fed should cut interest rates. To > put it in > James Carville speak, 'it's no longer the economy stupid, but rather: > "It's > the psychology, stupid." > > To paraphrase the editorial, IBD says that the even though the > economy > is coming around (albeit feebly), it is the psychological pounding > that > individual investors have taken since 2000 that will prompt investors > to > start investing again once interest rates are cut-and which will also > boost > more IPO's, venture capitalizations and start-up businesses. > > Personally, I think this is too much to ask, and think that > business and > personal tax cuts are more likely to lead to a rejuvenation of both > the > economy and the stock market. > > jans >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:24:44 -0700 (PDT) From: James Bond Subject: [CANSLIM] Please DO NOT repost IBD articles and stay on topic as much as possible. Anyone subscribing to this group will likely to also have subscription to IBD. So reposting IBD articles here is only a waste of bandwidth and everybody's time (in addition to possibly violating IBD's copyright). I was going to rant about the idiotic ultra-conservative IBD editorials but I don't think we should turn this forum into a political one so I'll stop here. I wish my state could pass a similar law (instead of all the tax breaks it gave to the companies and did nothing to help the economy and badly hurt the state budget). __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:54:40 -0500 From: Gene Ricci Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 09/20/02 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C2640C.9A1FB6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, were did you get the data for your spreadsheet? Many thanks, Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AJAskey@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 09/20/02 Katherine, Thanx for posting your possibles list. I have a couple views I use in = SIP to do DD. I exported one with the basic CANSLIM criteria. I've = found this helps me separate new accelerating growth from previous = slowing growth. I've posted it at my data site for anyone interested at = = http://groups.msn.com/InvestmentDataAnalysis/Documents/CANSLIMHuntingSIP.= XLS. Andy - ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C2640C.9A1FB6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy, were did you get  the data = for your=20 spreadsheet?
 
Many thanks,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 AJAskey@aol.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 23, = 2002 11:07=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM = Hunting=20 List 09/20/02

Katherine,

Thanx=20 for posting your possibles list.  I have a couple views I use in = SIP to=20 do DD.  I exported one with the basic CANSLIM criteria.  = I've found=20 this helps me separate new accelerating growth from previous slowing=20 growth.  I've posted it at my data site for anyone interested at=20

http://groups.msn.com/InvestmentDataAnalysis/Documents/CANSL= IMHuntingSIP.XLS.

Andy=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C2640C.9A1FB6B0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:05:55 -0500 From: "Maria McAdams" Subject: [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM Re family leave, thank you Tom for speaking out on this matter - I agree with you. Sometimes minds and moral matter more than ever bigger profits. I do not have an answer to this dilemma, but I am glad something new is being tried. Hopefully, human ingenuity will prevail with creative means to overcome business indifference/hostility towards family needs. IMO, more employers must wake up to the fact that "when you squeeze the orange too hard it tastes bitter, when you don't know how to milk a cow it kicks you or all you get is bloody milk." ML McAdams - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:01:11 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM I agree, Maria, and the beauty of it is that business (and eventual profits as well) can benefit from doing something decent - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria McAdams" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM Re family leave, thank you Tom for speaking out on this matter - I agree with you. Sometimes minds and moral matter more than ever bigger profits. I do not have an answer to this dilemma, but I am glad something new is being tried. Hopefully, human ingenuity will prevail with creative means to overcome business indifference/hostility towards family needs. IMO, more employers must wake up to the fact that "when you squeeze the orange too hard it tastes bitter, when you don't know how to milk a cow it kicks you or all you get is bloody milk." ML McAdams - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:10:41 -0400 From: "Winston Little" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM My recollection is that employees of the Detroit Big 3 have been eligible for family leave for several years, while employees of their competitors across the Pacific Ocean are treated so well, that in winter they must wear winter coats to keep from freezing in certain factories. Interesting thing is that people in California are some of the most ardent buyers of those products from the factories without heat. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria McAdams" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Skip if you will, not CANSLIM > > Re family leave, thank you Tom for speaking out on this matter - I agree > with you. Sometimes minds and moral matter more than ever bigger profits. I > do not have an answer to this dilemma, but I am glad something new is being > tried. Hopefully, human ingenuity will prevail with creative means to > overcome business indifference/hostility towards family needs. IMO, more > employers must wake up to the fact that "when you squeeze the orange too > hard it tastes bitter, when you don't know how to milk a cow it kicks you or > all you get is bloody milk." > ML McAdams > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:12:14 EDT From: AJAskey@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Gold setups - --part1_186.eac853d.2ac2838e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/24/2002 1:46:28 PM Central Daylight Time, ericjaenike@yahoo.com writes: > Note also RGLD breakout leading the group, holding up well so far and acting > properly. > > Eric, I look at RGLD as acting poorly. There has been very high volume in the past seven days with very little price movement. It looks like distribution from the smart money to the dumb money to me. I could be wrong but the good thing is the market always settles TA disagreements soon enough :) Andy - --part1_186.eac853d.2ac2838e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/24/2002 1:46:28 PM Central Daylight Time, ericjaenike@yahoo.com writes:


Note also RGLD breakout leading the group, holding up well so far and acting properly.



Eric,

I look at RGLD as acting poorly.  There has been very high volume in the past seven days with very little price movement.  It looks like distribution from the smart money to the dumb money to me.  I could be wrong but the good thing is the market always settles TA disagreements soon enough :)

Andy - --part1_186.eac853d.2ac2838e_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:14:17 EDT From: AJAskey@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 09/20/02 I'm not familiar with your abbreviation "SIP"....is that a software package for fundamental data? Katherine, Sorry about that. SIP is Stock Investor Pro from AAII. Since there is a pointer to the program in your FAQ I assumed everyone new the abbreviation. Andy - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:23:36 EDT From: AJAskey@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List 09/20/02 - --part1_ab.22c11737.2ac28638_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, were did you get the data for your spreadsheet? Gene, For the spreadsheet that I posted the link to last night I use Stock Investor Pro software from AAII. It was the best $250 I spent this year (unless you count the Little Tikes playset I bought my son last weekend). It takes about 5 minutes to import a list of symbols and export the spreadsheet. I have also written some Excel macros to automatically format the output which takes about 1 minute to run. There is no way I could fine true CANSLIM stocks without it as it takes too much time to do the DD otherwise. Andy - --part1_ab.22c11737.2ac28638_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, were did you get  the data for your spreadsheet?

Gene,

For the spreadsheet that I posted the link to last night I use Stock Investor Pro software from AAII.  It was the best $250 I spent this year (unless you count the Little Tikes playset I bought my son last weekend).  It takes about 5 minutes to import a list of symbols and export the spreadsheet.  I have also written some Excel macros to automatically format the output which takes about 1 minute to run.  There is no way I could fine true CANSLIM stocks without it as it takes too much time to do the DD otherwise.

Andy
 - --part1_ab.22c11737.2ac28638_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:11:24 -0600 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] For any swing traders in the crowd, here is a nice list of various setups - http://www.lbrcapital.com/members_tradesetuplibrary.asp - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:22:48 EDT From: AlpineTap34@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] - --part1_15d.14b91a9e.2ac29418_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More swing charts.....16 pages worth. http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID345192 In a message dated 9/24/2002 11:13:26 PM Central Daylight Time, pjwahl@attbi.com writes: > http://www.lbrcapital.com/members_tradesetuplibrary.asp > - --part1_15d.14b91a9e.2ac29418_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More swing charts.....16 pages worth.

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID345192


In a message dated 9/24/2002 11:13:26 PM Central Daylight Time, pjwahl@attbi.com writes:


http://www.lbrcapital.com/members_tradesetuplibrary.asp


 - --part1_15d.14b91a9e.2ac29418_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:37:16 -0600 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] Too bad they don't all work out like as neatly as the AG Edwards chart on page 3. On 25 Sep 2002 at 0:22, AlpineTap34@aol.com wrote: > More swing charts.....16 pages worth. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:13:30 EDT From: RWElmer@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] swing traders [off topic] - --part1_156.14a94719.2ac29ffa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Patrick, Not familiar with many of those setups. Always glad to add more of these to my rersources. Robert W. Elmer - --part1_156.14a94719.2ac29ffa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Patrick,

Not familiar with many of those setups. Always glad to add more of these to my rersources.

Robert W. Elmer
- --part1_156.14a94719.2ac29ffa_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:30:04 -0700 From: "NANCY POLCARO" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Please DO NOT repost IBD articles - ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C26433.1358EDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do not get IBD-I cant afford it in this market-will get it again when t= he market changes. I have read others on this site that have said the sa= me thing-If you dont want to read the posts - why dont you just not read = them, instead of deciding what the rest should read. =20 =20 - ----- Original Message ----- From: James Bond Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:25 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Please DO NOT repost IBD articles =20 and stay on topic as much as possible. Anyone subscribing to this group will likely to also have subscription to IBD. So reposting IBD articles here is only a waste of bandwidth and everybody's time (in addition to possibly violating IBD's copyright). I was going to rant about the idiotic ultra-conservative IBD editorials but I don't think we should turn this forum into a political one so I'll stop here. I wish my state could pass a similar law (instead of all the tax breaks it gave to the companies and did nothing to help the economy and badly hurt the state budget). __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C26433.1358EDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I do not get I= BD-I cant afford it in this market-will get it again when the market chan= ges.  I have read others on this site that have said the same t= hing-If you dont want to read the posts - why dont you just not= read them, instead of  deciding what the rest should read. 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tues= day, September 24, 2002 6:25 PM
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= Subject: [CANSLIM] Please DO NOT repost IBD articles
&n= bsp;
and stay on topic as much as possible. Anyone
subscribing to= this group will likely to also have
subscription to IBD. So reposting= IBD articles here is
only a waste of bandwidth and everybody's time (= in
addition to possibly violating IBD's copyright).

I was going= to rant about the idiotic
ultra-conservative IBD editorials but I don= 't think we
should turn this forum into a political one so I'll
sto= p here. I wish my state could pass a similar law
(instead of all the t= ax breaks it gave to the
companies and did nothing to help the economy= and
badly hurt the state budget).

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That was not his greatest accomplishment. I would work all my life fo= r a man like him. I would clean his house-and pick up his dogs poop and = feel lucky to do it, just to be able to stand in the shadow of a man like= that. I guess my point for anyone who bothered to read this is that - I= agree with Tom. Loyalty and respect cant be put on a piece of paper by = an accountant. Even if that is what they teach you in business school now= a days. =20 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Worley Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:10 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" =20 jans, I disagree, I see this as reasonable, and likely to build strong employee loyalty, rather than losing a trained and experienced employee w= ho has to be replaced by a new one. I wish I could have taken off work for t= he last three weeks of my wife's life, rather than only able to visit her in the hospital early morning and late at night, to accommodate the demands = of my job. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" Kent et al: This is perhaps off Canslim topic, but this idiotic bill (IBD editor= ial below) most likely will affect the California economy deleteriously, especially the businesses with "N" in Canslim, but not a lot of free cash-flow. Davis should be charged for criminally choking off new businesses (n= ot to mention established small businesses). This piece is from 9/24/02 IBD Issues and Insights, and the political climate it signifies is one more reason in my opinion not to move on out to California. jans Issues & Insights, Wednesday, September 25, 2002, California Chill, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Family Leave: The Golden State has created a new entitlement, and bi= g labor wants other states to follow. The smart ones will take California's jobs instead. Gov. Gray Davis this week signed the nation's first law providing workers with paid family leave. For the unions, it's time to pop the champagne. F= or employers, it's another reason to leave the state. Nearly all private-sector workers in the state now have the right to leav= e for up to six weeks, drawing 55% of their pay, to care for ill parents, children or domestic partners, or spend bonding time with a newly adopted child. This benefit is to be funded from workers' paychecks through an ad= ded payroll deduction expected to start at $26 a year on average and ranging = up to $70 for workers earning more than $72,000 a year. There are ways to deal with family needs short of mandating a new social insurance scheme backed by a tax increase. A more business-friendly state might have opted for some mix of tax credits and voluntary action. California's approach is to give workers what they want and hope employer= s don't decamp to more hospitable states. What really should worry California employers - and, ultimately, workers = who depend on jobs in the state - is the inevitable pressure to pump the prog= ram into something far bigger and more costly. If it's popular, workers will want more of it and lawmakers will find a way to make employers pay. The initial California bill called for 12 weeks of paid leave, with employers shouldering part of the cost. Business lobbyists pared the leave time and got employers off the hook, for now, but they were helped by political conditions that may not repeat themselves. Davis, a Democrat in a surprisingly tight race with political novice Bill Simon, doesn't want to scare business donors. So the stars were aligned f= or some moderation. But if Davis is re-elected, he won't have much reason to hold back the liberal state legislature. For organized labor, the California law is just a start. The AFL-CIO and other unions are pushing for similar laws in nearly 30 states and they wa= nt employers to foot the bills. Smart states, of course, will pass on those laws and take California's jobs instead. And don't think California's business-climate change has gone unnoticed. = In a survey of executives released this week by the marketing firm Development Counsellors International, 57% of them ranked California the worst place = in the country to do business. In 1999, only 25% of them felt this way. Davis and the legislature have already dimmed the state's once-sunny reputation. Their paid-leave law will just add to the chill. In a message dated 9/24/2002 6:06:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kent_norman@yahoo.com writes: << If low interest rates alone could save the day, they would have already. I doubt a business manager would delay a project for a fraction of a point interest. I think they are really too scared to commit to new projects due to low visibility and distracted by having to double check the financial statements. Regards Kent - --- Spencer48@aol.com wrote: > Kent: > > This (shell-shocked investors) is the main reason that IBD > states, in > IBD's editorial today, that the Fed should cut interest rates. To > put it in > James Carville speak, 'it's no longer the economy stupid, but rather: > "It's > the psychology, stupid." > > To paraphrase the editorial, IBD says that the even though the > economy > is coming around (albeit feebly), it is the psychological pounding > that > individual investors have taken since 2000 that will prompt investors > to > start investing again once interest rates are cut-and which will also > boost > more IPO's, venture capitalizations and start-up businesses. > > Personally, I think this is too much to ask, and think that > business and > personal tax cuts are more likely to lead to a rejuvenation of both > the > economy and the stock market. > > jans >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". 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when they were= thinking of selling Hershey I watched a special on Mr. Hershey's life.&n= bsp; One of his employees came to him and told him that a new machine had= been invented and  if they started using it , it would replace= 40 men-Mr. Hershey told him to get rid of the machine and hire the 40 me= n. The Hersheys trust pays for underprivileged children to go to a school= that he built.  I bet the day he died, the last thing on his mind w= as not how he raised earnings a nickle a share by letting 40 families go = hungry.  That was not his greatest accomplishment.  I would wor= k all my life for a man like him.  I would clean his house-and pick = up his dogs poop and feel lucky to do it, just to be able to stand in the= shadow of a man like that.  I guess my point for anyone who bothere= d to read this is that - I agree with Tom.  Loyalty and respect cant= be put on a piece of paper by an accountant. Even if that is what they t= each you in business school now a days.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:10 PM=
To: canslim@lists.xmission.= com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "= M"
 
jans, I disagree, I see this as reasonable, and= likely to build strong
employee loyalty, rather than losing a trained= and experienced employee who
has to be replaced by a new one. I wish = I could have taken off work for the
last three weeks of my wife's life= , rather than only able to visit her in
the hospital early morning and= late at night, to accommodate the demands of
my job.

----- Ori= ginal Message -----
From: <Spencer48@aol.com>
To: <canslim= @lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:38 PM
S= ubject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"


Kent et al:

   = ;  This is perhaps off Canslim topic, but this idiotic bill (IBD edi= torial
below) most likely will affect the California economy deleterio= usly,
especially the businesses with "N" in Canslim, but not a lot of = free
cash-flow.

     Davis should be charge= d for criminally choking off new businesses (not
to mention establishe= d small businesses). This piece is from 9/24/02 IBD
Issues and Insight= s, and the political climate it signifies is one more
reason in my opi= nion not to move on out to California.
jans



Issues &= ; Insights, Wednesday, September 25, 2002, California Chill,
INVESTOR'= S BUSINESS DAILY

     Family Leave: The Golden= State has created a new entitlement, and big
labor wants other states= to follow. The smart ones will take California's
jobs instead.
Gov. Gray Davis this week signed the nation's first law providing worker= s
with paid family leave. For the unions, it's time to pop the champag= ne. For
employers, it's another reason to leave the state.

Near= ly all private-sector workers in the state now have the right to leavefor up to six weeks, drawing 55% of their pay, to care for ill parents,<= BR>children or domestic partners, or spend bonding time with a newly adop= ted
child. This benefit is to be funded from workers' paychecks throug= h an added
payroll deduction expected to start at $26 a year on averag= e and ranging up
to $70 for workers earning more than $72,000 a year.<= BR>
There are ways to deal with family needs short of mandating a new = social
insurance scheme backed by a tax increase. A more business-frie= ndly state
might have opted for some mix of tax credits and voluntary = action.
California's approach is to give workers what they want and ho= pe employers
don't decamp to more hospitable states.

What reall= y should worry California employers - and, ultimately, workers who
dep= end on jobs in the state - is the inevitable pressure to pump the program=
into something far bigger and more costly. If it's popular, workers w= ill
want
more of it and lawmakers will find a way to make employers= pay.

The initial California bill called for 12 weeks of paid leav= e, with
employers
shouldering part of the cost. Business lobbyists = pared the leave time and
got
employers off the hook, for now, but t= hey were helped by political
conditions
that may not repeat themsel= ves.

Davis, a Democrat in a surprisingly tight race with political= novice Bill
Simon, doesn't want to scare business donors. So the star= s were aligned for
some moderation. But if Davis is re-elected, he won= 't have much reason to
hold back the liberal state legislature.
For organized labor, the California law is just a start. The AFL-CIO and=
other unions are pushing for similar laws in nearly 30 states and the= y want
employers to foot the bills. Smart states, of course, will pass= on those
laws
and take California's jobs instead.

And don't= think California's business-climate change has gone unnoticed. In
asurvey of executives released this week by the marketing firm Developme= nt
Counsellors International, 57% of them ranked California the worst = place in
the country to do business. In 1999, only 25% of them felt th= is way.

Davis and the legislature have already dimmed the state's = once-sunny
reputation. Their paid-leave law will just add to the chill= .




In a message dated 9/24/2002 6:06:46 PM Eastern Dayl= ight Time,
kent_norman@yahoo.com writes:

<< If low intere= st rates alone could save the day, they would have
already. I doubt a = business manager would delay a project for a
fraction of a point inter= est.

I think they are really too scared to commit to new projects = due to low
visibility and distracted by having to double check the fin= ancial
statements.

Regards
Kent

--- Spencer48@aol.com= wrote:
> Kent:
>
>      This = (shell-shocked investors) is the main reason that IBD
> states, in<= BR>> IBD's editorial today, that the Fed should cut interest rates.&nb= sp; To
> put it in
> James Carville speak, 'it's no longer th= e economy stupid, but rather:
>  "It's
> the psychology,= stupid."
>
>      To paraphrase the= editorial, IBD says that the even though the
> economy
> is = coming around (albeit feebly), it is the psychological pounding
> t= hat
> individual investors have taken since 2000 that will prompt i= nvestors
> to
> start investing again once interest rates are= cut-and which will also
> boost
> more IPO's, venture capita= lizations and start-up businesses.
>
>    = ;  Personally, I think this is too much to ask, and think that
&g= t; business and
> personal tax cuts are more likely to lead to a re= juvenation of both
> the
> economy and the stock market.
&= gt;
> jans >>

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