From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3033 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Monday, November 18 2002 Volume 02 : Number 3033 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart [CANSLIM] CENSOR Re: [CANSLIM] CENSOR Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY [CANSLIM] WGO Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY Re: [CANSLIM] WGO Re: [CANSLIM] WGO Re: [CANSLIM] WGO Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY [CANSLIM] Intro: Tim Katona plus UOPX? RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 17:59:14 -0700 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart You said a mouthful, that should give the moles on the list something to think about. On 17 Nov 2002 at 19:53, Duke Miller wrote: > Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in. > > Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact. > > 1) IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there > product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product). > That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to > them the past ten or more years. Thousands!! (They talk about how great > companies put the customer first, then....never mind.) > > 2) About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s; 20-20 > hindsight ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make > their points. > > 3) They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, > beat the S&P by over 50%. Only true if you go back to 1998; the past > two years is a different story. > > 4) Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a > Republican puke! Why don't they stick to what they're good at? > > I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot. But I think he's milking a > dead cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything. Read back through > the archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is > available elsewhere. > > Duke > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart > > > JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their > own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a > movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. Before > I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe. > > I find IBD invaluable. > > Fred > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Calkins > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart > > Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of > CANSLIM. Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to > his paper to follow his teaching, BUT! How do you find the quality > stocks that the big money is moving into? I use IBD's Where The Big > Money's Flowing to get started with my lists. This follows everything > that WON teaches. If you do not get the paper, then how do you find > those same stocks? > > JC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Worley > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart > > why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Duke Miller > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart > > Let me throw my two cents in. My subscription to IBD expired about ten > days ago. > > Just flat out decided not to renew. Do I miss it? Ask Mr. Worely! > > Duke > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart > > > Hi Bikear, > > You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are > plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow > you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. > For example: > > http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX > http://www.bigcharts.com > http://www.clearstation.com > > If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD > charts show, see > http://www.stockcharts.com > > If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see > http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php > > > If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid > products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc. > > Katherine > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BIKEAR@aol.com > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart > > 
I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to
> look?
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 16:37:04 -0600
From: Fred Winkle 
Subject: [CANSLIM] CENSOR

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Guess the moderator controls what is said because many of my posts don't =
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:40:30 -0500
From: "Tom Worley" 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CENSOR

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Fred, the only "moderator" is us, unless you use certain buzz words that =
are recognizable to the mail server, such as "s-u-b-s-c-r-i ...".

Those posts will normally get thru eventually, just have to be hand =
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would be the use of profanity, spamming or commercial ads, or personal =
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new members receive.

Assuming none of this applies, and you are still having trouble posting, =
I would suggest contacting the list owner directly for further advice.

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Guess the moderator controls what is said because many of my posts don't =
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:04:22 -0500
From: "Tom Worley" 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart

unfortunately, Patrick, the moles appear only to report back to Corporate
Counsel when we do something "wrong" (wrong by the lawyers definition, that
is). Or to use ideas from our discussions to write articles for future
publication, attributable of course to the IBD writer, not anyone in this
group.

Sadly, I think WON is completely out of touch with what had been done with
his products, and how his subscribers feel. The process has been going on
for years, and I see no evidence of any change.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Wahl" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart


You said a mouthful, that should give the moles on the list something to
think about.

On 17 Nov 2002 at 19:53, Duke Miller wrote:

> Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.
>
> Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.
>
> 1)  IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there
> product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product).
> That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to
> them the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great
> companies put the customer first, then....never mind.)
>
> 2)  About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20
> hindsight ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make
> their points.
>
> 3)  They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals,
> beat the S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past
> two years is a different story.
>
> 4)  Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a
> Republican puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?
>
> I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a
> dead cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through
> the archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is
> available elsewhere.
>
> Duke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
>
> JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their
> own concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a
> movement to use other sites (including personal) for information. Before
> I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.
>
> I find IBD invaluable.
>
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John   Calkins
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of
> CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to
> his paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality
> stocks that the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big
> Money's Flowing to get started with my lists.  This follows everything
> that WON teaches.  If you do not get the paper, then how do you find
> those same stocks?
>
> JC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom   Worley
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Duke   Miller
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten
> days ago.
>
> Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!
>
> Duke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
>
> Hi Bikear,
>
> You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are
> plenty of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow
> you to include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc.
> For example:
>
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
> http://www.bigcharts.com
> http://www.clearstation.com
>
> If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
> charts show, see
> http://www.stockcharts.com
>
> If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
> http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php
> 
>
> If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid
> products such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.
>
> Katherine
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BIKEAR@aol.com
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
>
> 
I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to
> look?
>
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:17:26 -0800
From: "John Calkins" 
Subject: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY

OK!  Some say IBD is invaluable.  Others say it BS.  So show me how I can
find Where The Big Moneys Flow......OOps,  I mean Going with out using the
screen in the paper and without buying some other service.

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:25:54 -0500
From: "Tom Worley" 
Subject: Re:  [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY

John, is chasing a stampeding herd that critical to your screening process?

- ----- Original Message ----- 
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:17 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] OK Show me BIG MONEY


OK!  Some say IBD is invaluable.  Others say it BS.  So show me how I can
find Where The Big Moneys Flow......OOps,  I mean Going with out using the
screen in the paper and without buying some other service.

JC


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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:02:03 -0600
From: "Katherine Malm" 
Subject: Re:  [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY

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Hi John,

I think the use of the IBD vs other free or paid services is more than =
anything a matter of style and preference. There are many here on the =
CANSLIM list who use the IBD exclusively for finding investment =
candidates, others who practice the CANSLIM and or growth style of =
investing but use other tools, and still others who use the IBD and/or =
DGO in combination with other paid services. I still read the IBD's Big =
Picture via the web each day and utilize the numerous educational =
features they provide, but I let the papers pile up for about a month =
before I read them these days, as all of my day to day mining and news =
monitoring is done via other free and paid services. I personally found =
the IBD too time consuming to use as a methodical mining tool and it =
didn't allow me to track the ebb and flow of the market without being =
influenced by their editorial bias. It's amazing how much information is =
available for free on the web these days, so it's entirely possible to =
mine and track good quality growth/CANSLIM candidates even without paid =
tools. Regardless of the choice, I still think the real secret to =
successful investing is using a disciplined approach and a =
methodical/consistent methodology. I think most would be hard pressed to =
argue any one tool was "better" than another, just "better for you."

Katherine
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  JC


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Hi John,


 


I think the use of the IBD vs other free or paid services is more =
than=20
anything a matter of style and preference. There are many here on the =
CANSLIM=20
list who use the IBD exclusively for finding investment candidates, =
others who=20
practice the CANSLIM and or growth style of investing but use other =
tools, and=20
still others who use the IBD and/or DGO in combination with other paid =
services.=20
I still read the IBD's Big Picture via the web each day and utilize the =
numerous=20
educational features they provide, but I let the papers pile up for =
about a=20
month before I read them these days, as all of my day to day mining and =
news=20
monitoring is done via other free and paid services. I personally found =
the IBD=20
too time consuming to use as a methodical mining tool and it didn't =
allow me to=20
track the ebb and flow of the market without being influenced by their =
editorial=20
bias. It's amazing how much information is available for free on the web =
these=20
days, so it's entirely possible to mine and track good quality =
growth/CANSLIM=20
candidates even without paid tools. Regardless of the choice, I still =
think the=20
real secret to successful investing is using a disciplined approach and =
a=20
methodical/consistent methodology. I think most would be hard pressed to =
argue=20
any one tool was "better" than another, just "better for you."


 


Katherine


  
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:12:04 -0800
From: "Robin Gridley" 
Subject: [CANSLIM] WGO

I've been looking at WGO...

Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
worried about the $48 support level that's been set
almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
$48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
committing in order to break through and hold above
these support levels???

Thx!

Robin


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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:23:34 EST
From: BIKEAR@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY


what frre charting tool is out there?

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:27:52 -0800
From: Karen White 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO

Hi Robin- I too have been looking at some RV stocks and my concern has been 
- - War = higher gas prices= Stock drops with little warning.....your take on 
that? Karen

At 09:12 PM 11/17/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I've been looking at WGO...
>
>Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
>worried about the $48 support level that's been set
>almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
>$48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
>look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
>committing in order to break through and hold above
>these support levels???
>
>Thx!
>
>Robin
>
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:25:14 -0500
From: "Tom Worley" 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO

Robin, I would not be concerned about the several spikes to the 49 level. In
fact, the one that finished the right side of the cup and started the handle
is encouraging, as there had been consistent volume behind it.

Yes, of course you still will want to see at least 2X ADV on the b/o, but I
see nothing about the chart that would create any special volume rules.

And Karen, a war with Iraq (I presume that is what you mean) would not
necessarily mean much difference in gas prices at the pump. Crude prices
have been falling for several months, as Iraq moderated its attitude, and
the USA toned down some of its statements in order to build a consensus in
the UN for a new resolution. If Saddam is as smart as I think, he has spent
the past six months or more cleaning up Iraq of any evidence of development
of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Now he lets the inspectors in (they just
landed a few hours ago), they find nothing, Saddam whines and complains and
objects but does nothing to interfere, and in a few months the inspectors
report they had total access, and found nothing. USA looks like a bully, its
intelligence services look like idiots, everyone smiles at the results,
there is no war, and Saddam remains in power and won't have to pay Gaddafi
the $3.5 billion for a safe haven after all.

Even if there is a war, the key is the duration and severity of damage. If
Saddam blows up his own oil fields as threatened, or if the Kurds manage to
take the fields, then crude prices will be disrupted. But there is still a
substantial Iraq war premium priced into crude, and the falling prices have
yet to flow thru to the gas pumps.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen White" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO


Hi Robin- I too have been looking at some RV stocks and my concern has been
- - War = higher gas prices= Stock drops with little warning.....your take on
that? Karen

At 09:12 PM 11/17/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I've been looking at WGO...
>
>Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
>worried about the $48 support level that's been set
>almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
>$48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
>look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
>committing in order to break through and hold above
>these support levels???
>
>Thx!
>
>Robin
>
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:11:00 -0600
From: "Katherine Malm" 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WGO

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Hi Robin,

I'd agree with you on the need for WGO to breakout strongly above this =
resistance to show its strength. Afterall, that's the idea of a breakout =
entry point, i.e., look for strong accumulation to push through the =
latest price ceiling which may be holding back the stock.

Fundamentally, I think WGO has a lot going for it--they've recently =
announced another stock buyback program and plant expansion program and =
they seem to fit nicely into Duke's "boomer theme." I think my aunt and =
uncle and their friends must be personally responsible for 1/2 the =
company's growth over the last several years....as they buy and trade-up =
constantly.

Technically, I see some yellow flags.... mainly some troubling high =
volume distribution action in the handle. Hard to say how much of that =
is market related and how much company/stock related, but it's notable =
enough to cause some concern when I look at the chart. Either way, as =
with stocks like SYMC and others that have been mentioned on the list =
lately, a strong B/O and strong market action could take care of any =
lingering doubt in the chart! See an annotated chart at: =
http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/WGO111702.JPG

Katherine
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  To: CANSLIM=20
  Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:12 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] WGO


  I've been looking at WGO...

  Even though it shows a Cw/H, am I correct in being
  worried about the $48 support level that's been set
  almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
  $48.60 and the pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
  look for VERY strong volume on the BO before
  committing in order to break through and hold above
  these support levels???

  Thx!

  Robin


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Hi Robin,


 


I'd agree with you on the need for WGO to breakout strongly above =
this=20
resistance to show its strength. Afterall, that's the idea of a breakout =
entry=20
point, i.e., look for strong accumulation to push through the latest =
price=20
ceiling which may be holding back the stock.


 


Fundamentally, I think WGO has a lot going for it--they've =
recently=20
announced another stock buyback program and plant expansion program and =
they=20
seem to fit nicely into Duke's "boomer theme." I think my aunt and uncle =
and=20
their friends must be personally responsible for 1/2 the company's =
growth over=20
the last several years....as they buy and trade-up constantly.


 


Technically, I see some yellow flags.... mainly some troubling high =
volume=20
distribution action in the handle. Hard to say how much of that is =
market=20
related and how much company/stock related, but it's notable enough to =
cause=20
some concern when I look at the chart. Either way, as with stocks like =
SYMC and=20
others that have been mentioned on the list lately, a strong B/O and =
strong=20
market action could take care of any lingering doubt in the chart! See =
an=20
annotated chart at: http://WallStree=
t-LLC.com/canslim/WGO111702.JPG


 


Katherine


  
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Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 =
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Subject: [CANSLIM] WGO

  

I've been looking at WGO...

Even though it shows =
a Cw/H,=20
  am I correct in being
worried about the $48 support level that's =
been=20
  set
almost three times while forming the cup ($48.05,
$48.60 and =
the=20
  pivot @ $49) I am guessing I should
look for VERY strong volume on =
the BO=20
  before
committing in order to break through and hold above
these =
support=20
  levels???

Thx!

Robin


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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:36:09 -0800
From: "Bill Theriot" 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY

You can find almost anything you are looking for using
a search engine.  You may have to try several different searches.  Or for
all the investing information you might
ever need go to http://www.i-soft.com/
Good investing
Bill
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:44:12 -0800
From: "Bill Theriot" 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OK Show me  BIG MONEY

Anoter great site for free screening tools is
http://www.sectorupdates.com/tools.asp

Good trading,
Bill



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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:51:01 -0800
From: "Tim Katona" 
Subject: [CANSLIM] Intro: Tim Katona plus UOPX?

Hi,
I'm new to the group. I live in Portola Valley, CA, been a reader of IBD and
WON for over 10 years, invested while working for SUNW from 1992-2000.
Investing full time since Aug'00.

Any thoughts on UOPX? One of the best fundamentals, breaking out today but
isn't it a 4th stage base....
Thanks,
Tim


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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:29:22 -0500
From: Roger Tawa 
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart

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Hi all,

As a beginner, it seems to me that the only service worth paying for is
screening.  All the other things you would want to do as an investor, such
as detailed charts, real-time/delayed quotes, news, DDDD, status of M,
education, etc. are available for free somewhere on the internet.

As for screening services, it seems that what you would want to look for is
something that has pre-built screens, but as/most importantly a service that
you can customize to build screens the way you want.  Some of the screening
services that I have found are :

Tc2000.com
Vectorvest.com
Cwhcharts.com
Cupwatch.com
IBD (investors.com)
AAII.com investor pro

I'm sure most people on this list can come up with a much bigger collection
of screening services.

The one nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find its
sector, and then find other companies in this sector to see how they are
doing.  You can also get a sector ranking.

Is this a very naive/beginner point of view?

===================================================================
Roger Tawa                                     rogerta@videotron.ca


[One thing about paradigms:  shift happens.]
[You ain't nothing yet.]

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Duke Miller
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:53 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart

Seems we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.

Here are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.

1)  IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there
product(s) herein to further our education (and promote their product).
That kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to them
the past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great
companies put the customer first, then....never mind.)

2)  About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20 hindsight
ad nauseum with continual conflicting information to make their points.

3)  They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, beat
the S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past two years
is a different story.

4)  Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a Republican
puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?

I like Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a dead
cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through the
archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is available
elsewhere.

Duke


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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Fred Winkle
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:06 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make money and are advancing their own
concepts. I've read the archives of the past 6 months and see a movement to
use other sites (including personal) for information. Before I tear the roof
off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that shoe.

I find IBD invaluable.

Fred
- ----- Original Message -----
From: John Calkins 

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart

Now let me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of
CANSLIM.  Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to his
paper to follow his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality stocks that
the big money is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to
get started with my lists.  This follows everything that WON teaches.  If
you do not get the paper, then how do you find those same stocks?

JC
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From: Tom Worley 

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart

why ask me, I have not been a subscriber for many years

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From: Duke Miller 
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart

Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired about ten days
ago.

Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask Mr. Worely!

Duke
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:39 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com 
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart
Hi Bikear,

You didn't say what you were looking for when charting, but there are plenty
of free resources on the web for basic charts which will allow you to
include a variety of technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For
example:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX
http://www.bigcharts.com
http://www.clearstation.com

If you want technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD
charts show, see
http://www.stockcharts.com

If you want the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see
http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php


If you want something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid products
such as HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.

Katherine

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart


I am no longer getting the IBD so what is a good chart place to look?

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Hi all,



 



As a
beginner, it seems to me that the only service worth paying for is
screening.  All the other things
you would want to do as an investor, such as detailed charts, real-time/delayed
quotes, news, DDDD, status of M, education, etc. are available for free
somewhere on the internet.



 



As for
screening services, it seems that what you would want to look for is something
that has pre-built screens, but as/most importantly a service that you can
customize to build screens the way you want.  Some of the screening services that I have found are :



 



Tc2000.com



Vectorvest.com



Cwhcharts.com



Cupwatch.com



IBD (investors.com)



AAII.com investor pro



 



I’m sure
most people on this list can come up with a much bigger collection of screening
services.



 



The one
nice thing about IBD is that given a stock, you can easily find its sector, and
then find other companies in this sector to see how they are doing.  You can also get a sector ranking.



 



Is this a
very naïve/beginner point of view?



 



===================================================================



Roger Tawa                                    
rogerta@videotron.ca 



 



[One thing about paradigms: 
shift happens.]



[You ain’t nothing yet.]



 



-----Original
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From:
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Duke Miller

Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002
7:53 PM

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart



 



Seems
we've started something with my throwing my two cents in.  



 



Here
are a few more "cents".... four to be exact.



 



1) 
IBD badgers us with threatening, certified letters when we use there product(s)
herein to further our education (and promote their product).   That
kind of arrogance makes me sick, especially after all I've paid to them the
past ten or more years.  Thousands!! (They talk about how great companies
put the customer first, then....never mind.)



 



2) 
About 90% of the Investor's corner stuff is pure b.s;  20-20 hindsight ad
nauseum with continual conflicting information to make their points.



 



3) 
They say their New America stocks, held for six month intervals, beat the
S&P by over 50%.  Only true if you go back to 1998; the past two
years is a different story.



 



4) 
Their ABSOLUTE lob-sided op-ed page is enough to make even a Republican
puke!  Why don't they stick to what they're good at?



 



I like
Bill a lot; he's taught me a lot.  But I think he's milking a dead
cow...and overcharges, to boot, for everything.  Read back through the
archives herein; you'll find all you need to follow CANLSIM is
available elsewhere.



 



Duke



 



 



-----Original Message-----

From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Winkle

Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002
2:06 PM

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart



JC, maybe they no longer need WON to make
money and are advancing their own concepts. I've read the archives of the past
6 months and see a movement to use other sites (including personal) for
information. Before I tear the roof off, Mr. Worley does not fit into that
shoe.



 



I find IBD invaluable. 



 



Fred






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To: canslim@lists.xmission.com




Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002
12:08 PM



Subject: Re:
[CANSLIM] stock chart



 



Now let
me get this straight. This group is studying WON's concept of CANSLIM. 
Granted, it doesn't mean you need to take a subscription to his paper to follow
his teaching, BUT!  How do you find the quality stocks that the big money
is moving into?  I use IBD's Where The Big Money's Flowing to get started
with my lists.  This follows everything that WON teaches.  If you do
not get the paper, then how do you find those same stocks?



 



JC









-----
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From: Tom Worley







 









To: canslim@lists.xmission.com




Sent: Saturday, November 16,
2002 6:40 PM



Subject: Re:
[CANSLIM] stock chart



 



why ask
me, I have not been a subscriber for many years



 



-----
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From: Duke
Miller 






To: canslim@lists.xmission.com




Sent:
Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:41 PM



Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] stock chart



 



Let me throw my two cents in.  My subscription to IBD expired
about ten days ago.  



 



Just flat out decided not to renew.  Do I miss it?  Ask
Mr. Worely!



 



Duke









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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On
Behalf Of Katherine Malm

Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002
5:39 PM

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com

Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] stock chart



Hi Bikear,



 



You didn't say
what you were looking for when charting, but there are plenty of free resources
on the web for basic charts which will allow you to include a variety of
technical indicators, moving averages, etc. For example:



 



http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/charting.asp?Symbol=SBUX



http://www.bigcharts.com



http://www.clearstation.com



 



If you want
technicals and a comparative RS Line to the SPX as the IBD charts show, see



http://www.stockcharts.com



 



If you want
the above plus RS Rank and U/D volume plotted over time, see



http://www.cwhchartscom/charts/kmchart.php



 



If you want
something more comprehensive, you have to go to paid products such as
HighGrowthStock, TC2000, DGO, etc.



 



Katherine



 









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