From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3055 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Sunday, November 24 2002 Volume 02 : Number 3055 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting & Dividends Re: [CANSLIM] NXTL, SXT Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting & Dividends Re: [CANSLIM] NXTL, SXT RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List Updated 11/22/02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:30:43 -0500 From: "Charles & Lois Layne" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting & Dividends This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C29400.BE4E2B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In theory, perhaps. But there are several factors to consider. Can one = cover at the x-div price? Will there even be an x-div price in a rising = market (whether short or long term)? Will the short seller even be = paying attention to x-div information? All of these are imponderables; what is a certainty is that the short = seller must cover the dividends. Personally, with so many non-dividend = paying short candidates, why bother with stocks that carry a dividend? Charles Layne ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Inn Ooi=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting & Dividends Someone mentioned about short sellers having to pay dividends, = wouldn't stock price trading down at x-dividend date take care of this = to a certain degree, so the net effect would be nil (assuming one covers = that same day?) - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C29400.BE4E2B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In theory, perhaps.  But there are = several=20 factors to consider.  Can one cover at the x-div price?  Will = there=20 even be an x-div price in a rising market (whether short or long = term)? =20 Will the short seller even be paying attention to x-div=20 information?
 
All of these are imponderables; what is = a certainty=20 is that the short seller must cover the dividends.  Personally, = with so=20 many non-dividend paying short candidates, why bother with stocks that = carry a=20 dividend?
 
 
Charles Layne
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Inn = Ooi=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 = 2:49=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting = &=20 Dividends

Someone mentioned about short sellers = having to=20 pay dividends, wouldn't stock price trading down at x-dividend = date take=20 care of this to a certain degree, so the net effect would be nil=20 (assuming one covers that same day?)
 
 
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C29400.BE4E2B60-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:41:14 -0500 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] NXTL, SXT Chris, SXT doesn't grab me, looks to boring, and the 5 year PE range of 10-20 confirms this. The chart doesn't give me any strong signal that it is ready to break out and make a significant move. On the other hand, it does pay a yield of 2.3% on the dividend. NXTL as I mentioned in my Weeview looks to me to be trying a stealth b/o on light volume. Market seems to like the fact it has finally turned profitable, and both earnings and sales are growing. Funds ownership is huge, but their decline in holdings appears to have reversed last quarter. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 5:14 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] NXTL, SXT Looking for a little feed back, but heres my thoughts, thinking about buying these two Mon. SXT 84/90 BAA, I like the chart, not too extended at this point. Volume has been slightly higher but not real great. Earning are good and they have been buying smaller companies that will provide some synergies. I know there are 47 mil shares outstanding but do not know what the float is, if anyone has a link to where I can find the float on different companies please post, thanks. NXTL 80/99 ADA, chart also looks good, earnings are getting better, and the company is doing a good job of paying down dept. Any feed back is appreciated. Thanks Chris - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:43:24 -0500 From: "Winston Little" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting & Dividends This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C29402.83F4D020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A larger payout may result if one becomes the object of a "short = SQUEEZE".=20 That could really hurt!=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Charles & Lois Layne=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting & Dividends In theory, perhaps. But there are several factors to consider. Can = one cover at the x-div price? Will there even be an x-div price in a = rising market (whether short or long term)? Will the short seller even = be paying attention to x-div information? All of these are imponderables; what is a certainty is that the short = seller must cover the dividends. Personally, with so many non-dividend = paying short candidates, why bother with stocks that carry a dividend? Charles Layne ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Inn Ooi=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting & Dividends Someone mentioned about short sellers having to pay dividends, = wouldn't stock price trading down at x-dividend date take care of this = to a certain degree, so the net effect would be nil (assuming one covers = that same day?) - ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C29402.83F4D020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A larger payout may result if one becomes the = object=20 of  a "short SQUEEZE".
That could really hurt! 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Charles=20 & Lois Layne
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 = 9:30=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Shorting = &=20 Dividends

In theory, perhaps.  But there = are several=20 factors to consider.  Can one cover at the x-div price?  = Will there=20 even be an x-div price in a rising market (whether short or long = term)? =20 Will the short seller even be paying attention to x-div=20 information?
 
All of these are imponderables; what = is a=20 certainty is that the short seller must cover the dividends.  = Personally,=20 with so many non-dividend paying short candidates, why bother with = stocks that=20 carry a dividend?
 
 
Charles Layne
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Inn = Ooi=20
Sent: Sunday, November 24, = 2002 2:49=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = Shorting &=20 Dividends

Someone mentioned about short = sellers having to=20 pay dividends, wouldn't stock price trading down at x-dividend = date=20 take care of this to a certain degree, so the net effect would = be nil=20 (assuming one covers that same day?)
 
 
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C29402.83F4D020-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:03:41 EST From: Vanchee1@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] NXTL, SXT Tom, thanks for the feedback. I like to hear others opinion it seems to help me. Chris. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:06:56 -0500 From: "Bill King" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List Updated 11/22/02 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C29405.CDA97F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Katherine, Tom and others, As a generally non-contributing lurker on this board, but extremely interested investor, I continue to learn a great deal from you and the other knowledgeable contributors. I look forward to your monthly Hunting List and Tom’s weekly list to compare with what I get from my screening. Thanks, Bill King - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:49 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIM Hunting List Updated 11/22/02 Hi All, I've uploaded the latest CANSLIM Hunting list to: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting112202.xls ( a bit slow to load) http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting112202.zip ( a zipped version for download) *Please note that these spreadsheets were prepared with Excel 2000 for Windows. If you have older versions of Excel or use a Mac version, you will not be able to view them properly. If you do not have Excel, see http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/xlviewer.aspx for a free viewer. In order to make it to the list, the stock had to have a forward growth rate of at least 15%, Price at least 6, Avg Daily Vol at least 30K, RS at least 60, no more than 15% below the 50 day SMA, and at or above the 200 day SMA. This is what I consider to be "bare bones" requirements for CANSLIM quality stocks. (Note that if you follow stricter CANSLIM guidelines, you can use the autofilter feature in each column and view only Price>=$12 (or 15) and AvgVol>=100000.) Other information included is industry name (slightly different than DGO's names, but close enough!), price, avg vol, and links to graphs and due diligence sites on the internet. This month I've also added links to Mike's and (now my!) cwhcharts for each stock which displays U/D volume, RS Rank, Comparative RS vs. SPX and more. I've also added a couple of additional columns as an outgrowth of my recent discussion with Eric J regarding relative outperformance of certain stocks and strength of potential and current leader stocks. You'll find a column for the RS Line since the 10/10 market low. If the RS Line (RS compared to S&P500) has been going up since that date (indicating outperformance relative to the market), it is indicated with a "+". I've also included a column to show the % off the 52 week high for those that keep their eye focused on such things. Also note that there are 4 sheets in the workbook, though this is easy to overlook. The first sheet has the listed stocks, but others include a list of stocks dropped from the list, a summary of stocks by sector, and a sheet with misc. links for free info on the web. If you'd like to look at last month's hunting list, you will find it at: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting101802.xls or http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting101802.zip This month there are 476 names, up a whopping 105 names from the list I posted last month just after the FTD. This month, 125 names fell from the list, 230 new names came on board and 246 names are repeats. Though rotation on the list is still fairly severe, the large number of repeats does show some marked improvement over what I've seen in the last year. It's an encouraging sign that money seems to continue to flow out of defensive names such as REITS, Mining and Healthcare (hospitals/HMO's) and into growth areas such as Healthcare equipment/instruments and Business Sevices. Of particular note this month is the high representation of media stocks. As a sign of *economic* strength (though not necessarily market strength), this is very important. 19 names show on the list and represent both print and broadcast media. AOL also announced recently that they see a strengthening demand for advertising. This is an important sign, because media is typically one of the strong sectors leading out of economic reversionary periods. As the market is a discounting mechanism, this then bodes well. Other areas with good representation are telecom (select cellular and equipment companies), computer services and business services. I don't see it as particularly troubling that more retailers don't show on the list. The consumer stocks have dominated over the past 20 (or so) years and I don't think it would be out of the question there would be a substantial secular shift to capital goods and other quasi-cyclical sectors in the future. Tech supports many industries and great growth stocks don't necessarily have to come from consumer related businesses (though it is true many growth companies do typically come from innovative retailers.) It's also interesting to me that Biotech is well represented on this month's list with 14 names. While this is a high-risk sector, it is encouraging to see institutional money flow to it. Many believe biotech will be the most important growth industry going forward. I am also not troubled by the flow of money *out* of homebuilders and related stocks. Again, the market is a discounting mechanism. That means that if money is flowing out of this sector, the growth in housing, etc.will decline. People may not be building new houses at a pace equal to the last 10-15 years in the future, but it's a fallacy to conclude that the consumer will no longer be healthy and spend money. The laborers and supporting businesses will shift to other industries as a result in the same way that they did when the oil industry collapsed in the early '80's. Take a trip to Houston today and you'll find it a far different city than it was at that time--still a lot of oil money, but a far more diverse group of businesses than 20 years ago. With a follow-through day under our belts, decent (though certainly not perfect, and still suspect) action in recent breakouts and a list of hunting candidates composed of less defensive names and more fully populated with innovative companies, it's an encouraging sign that we may be in for an intermediate term rally of some consequence. It's still a jungle out there....be sure to honor all your buy *and* sell rules!! One last note...I'm aware that there are many who will not use a list stocks such as this (and rightfully so), but it's always difficult to tell if the spreadsheet is useful to enough people on the CANSLIM list to continue to spend the time it takes to prepare each month. As there is no way to monitor the number of downloads, I'll need some individual feedback to gauge the value to the list. Tom Worley has often expressed the same sentiment from time to time given the amount of effort he puts into his weekly Weekend Weeview, so I am following his lead to get a pulse point. Happy Hunting, Katherine - ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C29405.CDA97F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi= Katherine, Tom and others,

 

As= a generally non-contributing lurker on this board, but extremely = interested investor, I continue to learn a great deal from you and the other = knowledgeable contributors. I look forward to your monthly Hunting List and = Tom’s weekly list to compare with what I get from my = screening.

 

Th= anks,

Bi= ll King

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Sunday, November = 24, 2002 11:49 AM
To: = canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] = CANSLIM Hunting List Updated 11/22/02

 

Hi = All,<= /p>

 <= /p>

I've uploaded the latest CANSLIM Hunting list to:<= /p>

 <= /p>

http:= //WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting112202.xls ( a bit slow to load)

http:= //WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting112202.zip ( a zipped version for download)<= /p>

*Please note that these spreadsheets were prepared with Excel 2000 for Windows. If = you have older versions of Excel or use a Mac version, you will not be able to = view them properly. If you do not have Excel, see http://= office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/xlviewer.aspx for a free viewer.

 <= /p>

In = order to make it to the list, the stock had to have a forward growth rate of at = least 15%, Price at least 6, Avg Daily Vol at least 30K, RS at least 60, no = more than 15% below the 50 day SMA, and at or above the 200 day SMA. This is what = I consider to be "bare bones" requirements for CANSLIM quality = stocks. (Note that if you follow stricter CANSLIM guidelines, you can use the autofilter feature in each column and view only Price>=3D$12 (or 15) = and AvgVol>=3D100000.) Other information included is industry name = (slightly different than DGO's names, but close enough!), price, avg vol, and =  links to graphs and due diligence sites on the internet. This month I've also = added links to Mike's and (now my!) cwhcharts for each stock which displays = U/D volume, RS Rank, Comparative RS vs. SPX and more. I've also added a = couple of additional columns as an outgrowth of my recent discussion with Eric J regarding relative outperformance of certain stocks and strength of = potential and current leader stocks. You'll find a column for the RS Line since = the 10/10 market low. If the RS Line (RS compared to S&P500) has been going up = since that date (indicating outperformance relative to the market), it is = indicated with a "+". I've also included a column to show the % off the = 52 week high for those that keep their eye focused on such things. Also note = that there are 4 sheets in the workbook, though this is easy to overlook. The first = sheet has the listed stocks, but others include a list of stocks dropped from = the list, a summary of stocks by sector, and a sheet with misc. links for = free info on the web.

 <= /p>

If = you'd like to look at last month's hunting list, you will find it = at:<= /p>

 <= /p>

http:= //WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting101802.xls or<= /font><= /p>

http:= //WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting101802.zip<= /p>

 <= /p>

This month there are 476 names, up a whopping 105 names from the = list I posted last month just after the FTD.  This month, 125 =  names fell from the list, 230 new names came on board and 246 names are = repeats. Though rotation on the list is still fairly severe, the large number of = repeats does show some marked improvement over what I've seen in the last year. = It's an encouraging sign that money seems to continue to flow out of defensive = names such as REITS, Mining and Healthcare (hospitals/HMO's) and into = growth areas such as Healthcare equipment/instruments and Business Sevices. Of = particular note this month is the high representation of media stocks. As a sign of *economic* strength (though not necessarily market strength), this is = very important. 19 names show on the list and represent both print and = broadcast media. AOL also announced recently that they see a strengthening demand = for advertising. This is an important sign, because media is typically one = of the strong sectors leading out of economic reversionary periods. As the = market is a discounting mechanism, this then bodes well. Other areas with good representation are telecom (select cellular and equipment companies), = computer services and business services. I don't see it as particularly troubling = that more retailers don't show on the list. The consumer stocks have = dominated over the past 20 (or so) years and I don't think it would be out of the = question there would be a substantial secular shift to capital goods and other quasi-cyclical sectors in the future. Tech supports many industries and = great growth stocks don't necessarily have to come from consumer related = businesses (though it is true many growth companies do typically come from = innovative retailers.) It's also interesting to me that Biotech is well represented = on this month's list with 14 names. While this is a high-risk sector, it is encouraging to see institutional money flow to it. Many believe biotech = will be the most important growth industry going forward. I am also not troubled = by the flow of money *out* of homebuilders and related stocks. Again, the = market is a discounting mechanism. That means that if money is flowing out of this = sector, the growth in housing, etc.will decline. People may not be building new = houses at a pace equal to the last 10-15 years in the future, but it's a = fallacy to conclude that the consumer will no longer be healthy and spend money. = The laborers and supporting businesses will shift to other industries as a = result in the same way that they did when the oil industry collapsed in the = early '80's. Take a trip to Houston today and you'll find it a far different = city than it was at that time--still a lot of oil money, but a far more = diverse group of businesses than 20 years ago.<= /p>

 <= /p>

With a follow-through day under our belts, decent (though certainly not = perfect, and still suspect) action in recent breakouts and a list of hunting candidates composed of less defensive names and more fully populated = with innovative companies, it's an encouraging sign that we may be in for an intermediate term rally of some consequence. It's still a jungle out there....be sure to honor all your buy *and* sell = rules!!<= /p>

 <= /p>

One last note...I'm aware that there are many who will not use a list stocks such = as this (and rightfully so), but it's always difficult to tell if the = spreadsheet is useful to enough people on the CANSLIM list to continue to spend the = time it takes to prepare each month. As there is no way to monitor the number of downloads, I'll need some individual feedback to gauge the value to the = list. Tom Worley has often expressed the same sentiment from time to time = given the amount of effort he puts into his weekly Weekend Weeview, so I am = following his lead to get a pulse point.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Happy Hunting,

Katherine<= /p>

- ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C29405.CDA97F60-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #3055 ****************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.