From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #3275 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Sunday, April 20 2003 Volume 02 : Number 3275 In this issue: [CANSLIM] cansl*I*m Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK Re: [CANSLIM] cansl*I*m Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK now FWHT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:32:31 -0400 From: Roger Tawa Subject: [CANSLIM] cansl*I*m This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_veyZdZqxCfjW+XXEIU7BYw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, The list seems a little quiet these days, so let me ask a newbie question about the 'I' in CANSLIM. From what I understand, there seems to be two basic reasons why WON included 'I' as one of the seven criteria: 1. when institutions move into or out of a stock, this creates tremendous pressure on the stock's price, either up or down. You want to buy a stock when its institutional sponsorship is not too high but increasing. 2. sponsorship by the "better quality" institutions is like a sanity check for fundamental analysis of the stock. These large institutions spend a lot of time looking at fundamentals before they buy, so watching what they have been buying recently can give you an idea of stocks that probably have strong fundamentals. Msn seems to be a good source for #1. Not sure about good sources for #2. For the more experienced CANSLIMers on the list, how much do you use 'I' for #1 and/or #2? 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Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:36:01 -0400 From: "gagnonr001@hawaii.rr.com" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK Andy Thanks for the info=2E No car loan to pay not bills to pay=2E So I am no= w looking for another investment=2E Got any ideas ;=3D-) Roger Original Message: - ----------------- From: AJAskey@aol=2Ecom Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:53:36 EDT To: canslim@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK In a message dated 4/18/2003 6:25:24 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 gagnonr001@hawaii=2Err=2Ecom writes: > As I told you earlier I am a novice=2E The only thing that motivated me= to > sell was the $15,000+++ profit and nothing else=2E I have been burned s= o > many times in the past (nonCANSLIM) seeing a stock go up and waiting for= > more profit or not wanting to sell becuz of taxes that I decided this ti= me > I would take my profit and run=2E There maybe more money to be made but= I > was scared=2E=20 Roger, Congrats on your gains=2E You comments are interesting about being scared= as I=20 think it was Jesse Livermore who said people are "scared when they should be=20 hopeful and hopeful when they should be scared"=2E (I believe it was cite= d in=20 HTMMIS also=2E) The question I have is are you going to put that original investment plus the=20 $15,000 into another good looking stock any time soon? If you take the=20= profits and pay off a auto loan or something like that then you did the right=20 thing=2E If you buy a different stock next week with that money then your= =20 logic is flawed=2E Your money was much more safe in a proven winner than = in an=20 unproven stock just breaking out=2E It doesn't always feel that way but those=20 who let their winners run make out better than those who constantly take=20= partial profits and try to find a stock as good as the one they just sold=2E= =20 Again, I believe it was Jesse Livermore who said he made the most gains while=20 sitting and waiting instead of always getting in and out=2E Andy - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:51:46 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] cansl*I*m Roger, I am still old fashioned when it comes to "I", and just stick to small cap stocks, many of which have little or no institutional involvement (so your #2 doesn't enter the equation for me). I do take conscious note of mutual fund ownership, and whether it is increasing or decreasing, but the lack of funds ownership has never stopped me buying a stock I otherwise liked. I do get nervous when I like a stock with a large funds ownership (over 20% or so), unless there is a very large piece of the issue held by Management (50% or more). While in theory I would agree that it's best to be buying stocks also held by / being bought by the best performing mutual funds, I have such a low opinion these days of funds managers that I never even consider the quality of funds in the stock. I have four different growth funds in my 401K, and I routinely and easily outperform them both with my personally managed accts (IRA & margin) as well as with my VR Fund. So, for me, my judgment is sufficient, I don't need it validated by the presence of funds, in fact generally prefer they stay away until I have my full position. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Tawa" To: Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] cansl*I*m Hi all, The list seems a little quiet these days, so let me ask a newbie question about the 'I' in CANSLIM. From what I understand, there seems to be two basic reasons why WON included 'I' as one of the seven criteria: 1. when institutions move into or out of a stock, this creates tremendous pressure on the stock's price, either up or down. You want to buy a stock when its institutional sponsorship is not too high but increasing. 2. sponsorship by the "better quality" institutions is like a sanity check for fundamental analysis of the stock. These large institutions spend a lot of time looking at fundamentals before they buy, so watching what they have been buying recently can give you an idea of stocks that probably have strong fundamentals. Msn seems to be a good source for #1. Not sure about good sources for #2. For the more experienced CANSLIMers on the list, how much do you use 'I' for #1 and/or #2? Thanks. ================================================= Roger Tawa http://tawacentral.net/ [One thing about paradigms: shift happens.] [When you stop, you're done.] - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 14:09:06 EDT From: AJAskey@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK - --part1_159.1e76ee19.2bd2eac2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/19/2003 8:38:31 AM Central Daylight Time, gagnonr001@hawaii.rr.com writes: > Thanks for the info. No car loan to pay not bills to pay. So I am now > looking for another investment. Got any ideas ;=-) > Roger, Well, a few weeks ago I would have suggested HITK :) Actually, if I had sold like you, I would be looking for a pullback position to buy. The middle Bollinger band (20dma) around 25.50 would be a place I would give it a look to see how it was doing technically. The only negative I see is the RSI is rolling over which suggests a pull back or at least a pause. If it is a pause then it is really bullish and I would buy a breakout of the pause. This would put you back in about where you sold but keep you out while the short term risk of a pullback favors more gain. If it does pullback on low volume then I would buy it near the middle Bollinger band. This isn't discussed in WONs CANSLIM books, but it really is a lower risk way of "holding" during a correction. Andy - --part1_159.1e76ee19.2bd2eac2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 4/19/2003 8:38:31 AM Central Daylig= ht Time, gagnonr001@hawaii.rr.com writes:

Thanks for the info.  No c= ar loan to pay not bills to pay.  So I am now
looking for another investment.  Got any ideas ;=3D-)


Roger,

Well, a few weeks ago I would have suggested HITK :)  Actually, if I ha= d sold like you, I would be looking for a pullback position to buy.  Th= e middle Bollinger band (20dma) around 25.50 would be a place I would give i= t a look to see how it was doing technically.  The only negative I see=20= is the RSI is rolling over which suggests a pull back or at least a pause.&n= bsp; If it is a pause then it is really bullish and I would buy a breakout o= f the pause.  This would put you back in about where you sold but keep=20= you out while the short term risk of a pullback favors more gain.  If i= t does pullback on low volume then I would buy it near the middle Bollinger=20= band.  This isn't discussed in WONs CANSLIM books, but it really is a l= ower risk way of "holding" during a correction.

Andy
- --part1_159.1e76ee19.2bd2eac2_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:49:16 EDT From: Kraus0R@cs.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] (CANSLIM) TBl and MATK now FWHT Tom, How did you run across Findwhat (FHWT)? I first ran across it in the stocks making new highs listing back in the low 7s. I bought it and than it dipped a bit and I ended up selling out with about a 5% gain. I was a little wary of selling it since it had only gone down in low volume but none the less, sold it was. Oh well. I think there are a few lessons there. Roger - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #3275 ****************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.