From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: Crossbows 'n' such was Re: (cdc) It's Friday Date: 01 Feb 2000 06:17:42 PST Didn't Rebecca tell you to take care of that?! Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: Crossbows 'n' such was Re: (cdc) It's Friday Date: 01 Feb 2000 08:19:59 -0700 >Didn't Rebecca tell you to take care of that?! >Rand I suppose a crossbow bolt would do the trick. Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: (cdc) Harvest War XI Date: 01 Feb 2000 08:38:35 -0700 Because I haven't heard that we have a Harvest War Steward and since today is the first day reservation can be made for Forest Service campgrounds, I took it upon myself to reserve and pay for the Box Elder Campground group areas A, B, C, D and the Administrative area for 15-17 Sept 2000 for Harvest War XI. The fee has been increased by $10.00 per area, so the total was $600.00. The Forest Service wants a letter stating our intended use of the campground (they already know what we do, but it's a formality that we need to observe). LJ said that they didn't get a letter last year. The FS is really kind to us and makes special exceptions for us, I think we at least owe them the courtesy of writing a letter to them. I think it's Jurgi's turn to be Steward, what do you think? The most difficult part is done. As I recall, everything else is relatively easy YIS, Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: Crossbows 'n' such was Re: (cdc) It's Friday Date: 01 Feb 2000 08:37:58 PST Do you have a nut for that bolt? Don't forget my campaign to free the fasteners! Have Fun, Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: Crossbows 'n' such was Re: (cdc) It's Friday Date: 01 Feb 2000 09:57:01 -0700 >Do you have a nut for that bolt? > >Don't forget my campaign to free the fasteners! > >Have Fun, >Rand I'm know a nut that bolt would fit right nicely. (I would have written 'quarrel' but I though you'd have a response for that.) Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: Crossbows 'n' such was Re: (cdc) It's Friday Date: 01 Feb 2000 09:15:36 PST Are you trying to start a quarrel with me? That would make me quiver! Personally, to start such a thing would be nuts! Your comments were quite pointed and pierced me to the heart! I think I am getting the shaft. Don't be so high-strung, I'll bow to your superior strength. By the way, what type of nut are you planning to use? We have lots of acorns in our back yard you are welcome to. Have Fun, Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Garvin" Date: 01 Feb 2000 09:44:45 PST Thank you Landolf for taking the initative (did I spell that right?) and reserving the Harvest War site. M.Jurgen had suggested I do it on Wednesday last but I'm slow. He would be a grand event steward. Master Jurgen, your ideas about St. Pyre's sound great to me. Would you please put your ideas on paper? We can be secretive at fighters practice. I should be there for the entire time this time. Speaking of fighter's practice, would you ask M. Lynette to bring her hair cutting scissors? I cut my own hair yesterday and it's pretty uneven. I would appreciate it if you would ask her if she could even me up a bit. Just so no one is too shocked, it's very short. Thank you all very much. Raven, an article is on its way. Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) Harvest War XI Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:39:06 -0700 Jurgi is taking time off from the SCA. He is having some finicancial stress and is looking for some Illustration jobs on the side. Which means the SCA is going to take a nose-bleed section seat for a while. I have thought about being Harvest Steward but the track record of the past Stewards is not so good. Where are they? What has happned to them? Jurgi DeseretMail wrote: > Because I haven't heard that we have a Harvest War Steward and since today is the first day reservation can be made for Forest Service campgrounds, I took it upon myself to reserve and pay for the Box Elder Campground group areas A, B, C, D and the Administrative area for 15-17 Sept 2000 for Harvest War XI. The fee has been increased by $10.00 per area, so the total was $600.00. > The Forest Service wants a letter stating our intended use of the campground (they already know what we do, but it's a formality that we need to observe). LJ said that they didn't get a letter last year. The FS is really kind to us and makes special exceptions for us, I think we at least owe them the courtesy of writing a letter to them. > I think it's Jurgi's turn to be Steward, what do you think? The most difficult part is done. As I recall, everything else is relatively easy > YIS, > Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Perry, Radford" Subject: RE: (cdc) Harvest War XI Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:55:24 -0800 I think Jurgen points out something very insidious indeed. Where are the past Harvest Stewards?? I know of a few that left the Kingdom shortly after. Were they banished? Did they abscond with the profits? Did the Grain Alliance fit them with concrete shoes? Enquiring minds want to know! - Baldwin (lost on pilgrimage) > ---------- > From: Jeff Lowe > Reply To: cdc@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 10:39 AM > To: cdc@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (cdc) Harvest War XI > > Jurgi is taking time off from the SCA. He is having some finicancial > stress and is looking for some Illustration jobs on the side. Which means > the SCA is going to take a nose-bleed section seat for a while. I have > thought about being Harvest Steward but the track record of the past > Stewards is not so good. Where are they? What has happned to them? > > Jurgi > > DeseretMail wrote: > > > Because I haven't heard that we have a Harvest War Steward and since > today is the first day reservation can be made for Forest Service > campgrounds, I took it upon myself to reserve and pay for the Box Elder > Campground group areas A, B, C, D and the Administrative area for 15-17 > Sept 2000 for Harvest War XI. The fee has been increased by $10.00 per > area, so the total was $600.00. > > The Forest Service wants a letter stating our intended use of the > campground (they already know what we do, but it's a formality that we > need to observe). LJ said that they didn't get a letter last year. The > FS is really kind to us and makes special exceptions for us, I think we at > least owe them the courtesy of writing a letter to them. > > I think it's Jurgi's turn to be Steward, what do you think? The most > difficult part is done. As I recall, everything else is relatively easy > > YIS, > > Landolf > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: (cdc) Re: Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:04:56 -0700 I would like to call for an Armigers meeting before or after the fighting or during for that matter, at Your Ladyships convenience. I think that everyone concerned should be involved and It will give us time to converse of other matters. I am concerned by the few numbers at FP. We need some Ideas of getting our interested student population involved. We need to figure a plan on how to have Rand Deported back so we can all beat out some of that Punny stuff. He is becoming far to obnoxious and complacent living so far away. Jurgi Gina Garvin wrote: > Thank you Landolf for taking the initative (did I spell that right?) and > reserving the Harvest War site. M.Jurgen had suggested I do it on Wednesday > last but I'm slow. He would be a grand event steward. > Master Jurgen, your ideas about St. Pyre's sound great to me. Would you > please put your ideas on paper? We can be secretive at fighters practice. > I should be there for the entire time this time. Speaking of fighter's > practice, would you ask M. Lynette to bring her hair cutting scissors? I > cut my own hair yesterday and it's pretty uneven. I would appreciate it if > you would ask her if she could even me up a bit. Just so no one is too > shocked, it's very short. > Thank you all very much. Raven, an article is on its way. > Grainne > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: RE: (cdc) Harvest War XI Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:35:10 PST The RIVETS have captured them and they are being held for ransom, he he he. Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Perry, Radford" Subject: RE: (cdc) Harvest War XI Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:38:43 -0800 Was it the RIVETS, or the wild and free-roaming pancakes? - Baldwin > ---------- > From: Randy Chabries > Reply To: cdc@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2000 11:35 AM > To: cdc@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (cdc) Harvest War XI > > The RIVETS have captured them and they are being held for ransom, he he > he. > Rand > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cody-Gon Jinn" Subject: (cdc) Articles! Date: 01 Feb 2000 13:07:44 MST Raven, It has come to my attention that you are in need of articles for the Bears Tale, yes? If you do not mind recieving some through e-mail, I can write them. -Ohira Ichtaro ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Garvin" Date: 01 Feb 2000 13:04:43 PST We can do an armigers meeting, thank you for reminding me. I can be there before fighter's practice, but I know that is difficult for everyone else. How about we hold it at 7, since not many of the populace can make it by then? That way it wouldn't be a strange time, but it also wouldn't interfere with the rest of the meeting. As for Harvest WAr, do you have anyone in mind? We seem to be having a problem finding people to fill all of our jobs! I could help, I graduate June 26, and won't know what to do with myself (I will suddenly have every weekend free!) But I also know the benefits of delegation. I am open to ideas and suggestions. It's too bad we can't deport all of our stray populace back to the shire! Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J Crow" Subject: Re: (cdc) Articles! Date: 01 Feb 2000 18:25:44 -0700 Ohira Ichtaro That would be well appreciated and having them in email is one of the best ways to get them. Please send please, please, please send to Jcrow@favorites.com that address might change but we will inform when it does. Raven " Go thither, and with unattended eye compare her face with some that I shall show, And I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." William Shakespeare -----Original Message----- >Raven, > It has come to my attention that you are in need of articles for the >Bears Tale, yes? If you do not mind recieving some through e-mail, I can >write them. > > -Ohira Ichtaro >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cody-Gon Jinn" Subject: Re: (cdc) Articles! Date: 01 Feb 2000 18:39:49 MST Consider it done. -OI >From: "J Crow" >Reply-To: cdc@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: (cdc) Articles! >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:25:44 -0700 > >Ohira Ichtaro >That would be well appreciated and having them in email is one of the best >ways to get them. Please send please, please, please >send to Jcrow@favorites.com that address might change but we will inform >when it does. >Raven > >" Go thither, and with unattended eye compare >her face with some that I shall show, And >I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." >William Shakespeare >-----Original Message----- >From: Cody-Gon Jinn >To: cdc@lists.xmission.com >Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:09 PM >Subject: (cdc) Articles! > > > >Raven, > > It has come to my attention that you are in need of articles for the > >Bears Tale, yes? If you do not mind recieving some through e-mail, I can > >write them. > > > > -Ohira Ichtaro > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shimazu Motoharu" Subject: (cdc) The subject Date: 02 Feb 2000 05:38:21 GMT Hey, I don't mean to be off the subject or anything, but... "Free the Rivits!" Heh heh, Sorry couldn't bare to see that beaten old horse die. It should be around for our great great grandchildren. Shimazu Motoharu Proud Samurai of Cote Du Ciel ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Curtis Kidd Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Date: 02 Feb 2000 00:24:16 -0800 (PST) > I am concerned by the few numbers at FP. We need some > Ideas of > getting our interested student population involved. Well, I can't speak for any of the other student populace, but my year's been so chaotic that I feel I'm doing good to even keep up with the news on the list here. Also, as a bit of advance notice...I will quite likely be moving out of the Logan area at the end of this semester, due to work. How long I'll be away is uncertain, and exactly where I'll end up is still kind of up in the air, too...but my summer schedule will be such that any real involvement in any SCA activities will be out of the question. On a more pleasant note, though, I've been asked to do the fight choreography for 'Dangerous Liaisons' up at Utah State...get to combine two of my favorite activities, theater and fencing! I may, from time to time, be picking minds for ideas, so don't panic if some guy who looks vaguely familiar walks up to you during a fighter practice and starts bouncing hypothetical situations off your helms! Curtis ===== Curtis Kidd ********************************************************* "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft promo ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler ********************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: Re: (cdc) Harvest War XI Date: 02 Feb 2000 08:13:58 -0700 >Jurgi is taking time off from the SCA. He is having some finicancial >stress and is looking for some Illustration jobs on the side. Which means >the SCA is going to take a nose-bleed section seat for a while. I have >thought about being Harvest Steward but the track record of the past >Stewards is not so good. Where are they? What has happned to them? > >Jurgi > We the populace of Cote du Ciel are observing that time honored period practice--scrounging for coin! This particular historical recreation is what is keeping this former HW autocrat away from fighter practice. Sorry. But I am still interested in keeping in touch.... Angus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: RE: (cdc) Harvest War XI Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:02:16 PST Both groups have suffered similar abuse and are likely to use the same methods of retaliation. Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: (cdc) Re: Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:05:41 PST You want to deport us? I thought moving to Kansas would keep me safe! Maybe you could import on your exports and have a good GNP. Have Fun, Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:09:45 PST I have a dream that someday all rivits will go free and that fasteners of all types will walk hand in hand with their bretheren, that they will no longer be forced into confining spaces and beaten into unrecognizable lumps of metal. I have a dream... FREE THE RIVITS Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:48:34 -0700 >I have a dream that someday all rivits will go free and that fasteners of >all types will walk hand in hand with their bretheren, that they will no >longer be forced into confining spaces and beaten into unrecognizable lumps >of metal. I have a dream... > >FREE THE RIVITS > I just freed some rivets from my helm. Not much good though, after being captive for so long. Kinda Dwarvish looking (short and misshapen.) BTW/FYI rivets were originally called nails. A bridangine, with exposed heads on the fasteners, called and 'Allmaine rivet', was imported to England and the silly English took to calling the fasteners 'rivets'. Landolf the Liberator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:42:08 PST Free them, free them all!!! Dwarfish or otherwise. THey have a right to retire to rivet heaven. After their centuries of captivity, free them all!!! Have Fun, Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:42:11 PST Free them, free them all!!! Dwarfish or otherwise. THey have a right to retire to rivet heaven. After their centuries of captivity, free them all!!! Have Fun, Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:45:56 -0700 You need to quit watching "Philadelphia" and eating imported Sushi before going to bed! Jurgi Randy Chabries wrote: > I have a dream that someday all rivits will go free and that fasteners of > all types will walk hand in hand with their bretheren, that they will no > longer be forced into confining spaces and beaten into unrecognizable lumps > of metal. I have a dream... > > FREE THE RIVITS > > Rand > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J Crow" Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 02 Feb 2000 15:27:51 -0700 Sounds more like a fantasy to me! Chuckle, Chuckle Isabelle " Go thither, and with unattended eye compare her face with some that I shall show, And I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." William Shakespeare -----Original Message----- >I have a dream that someday all rivits will go free and that fasteners of >all types will walk hand in hand with their bretheren, that they will no >longer be forced into confining spaces and beaten into unrecognizable lumps >of metal. I have a dream... > >FREE THE RIVITS > >Rand >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Margene Larsen Subject: (cdc) Re: Date: 02 Feb 2000 14:36:41 -0800 (PST) --- Gina Garvin wrote: It's too bad > we can't deport all of our stray populace back to > the shire! > Grainne > ___ I intend to be there. You can put me to work. Maggie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Margene Larsen Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Date: 02 Feb 2000 14:41:19 -0800 (PST) would you ask M. Lynette to bring her > hair cutting scissors? I > > cut my own hair yesterday and it's pretty uneven. > I would appreciate it if > > you would ask her if she could even me up a bit. > Just so no one is too > > shocked, it's very short. > > Thank you all very much. Raven, an article is > on its way. > > Grainne > > Nooooooooooo!!!!! I have to see a picture. Maggie > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Margene Larsen Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Date: 02 Feb 2000 15:14:21 -0800 (PST) --- Randy Chabries wrote: > You want to deport us? I thought moving to Kansas > would keep me safe! > Maybe you could import on your exports and have a > good GNP. > Have Fun, > Rand > ____ Yeah, what he said....What did you say? Maggie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cody-Gon Jinn" Subject: (cdc) Konichi-Wa! Date: 02 Feb 2000 19:31:29 MST Hail! I must say, what about the rivets that have been fastned for so long that they fear freedom, they fear that all the other rivets and fastners in the world will make fun of them, and no longer accept their prescence (sp?) in society? We must be thoughtful not just to those poor rivets dreaming to be free, but for those, who don't. It's a sad world for the rivets, and many are confused. BUT YOU CAN ALL HELP, JUST BY SENDING $12 DOLLARS A MONTH, WE'LL SEND YOU A PACKET WITH ALL THE INFORMATION ON A SMALL POOR RIVET. WE'LL ALSO SEND YOU UPDATES, AND LETTERS FROM YOUR RIVET. YOU SMALL DONATION WILL GO TOWARDS BUYING THIS RIVET AN EDUCATION, AND NEW SHOES. SO PLEASE, HELP THE RIVETS. Just call 1-800-FRE-RVTS. Thank you. Anyway on to other notes, Raven, I'm working on an article, should get it to you soon. And I also would like to say, I miss you all. -Ohira Ichtaro, (Cody) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Garvin" Date: 03 Feb 2000 08:37:35 PST Rand, you don't have enough to keep yourself occupied, do you? Are you sure Kansas doesn't want to get rid of you and your rivet freeing scams? PS My hair is short, very short. I measured 20 inches at the longest point that I chopped. To explain, I guess I needed something simpler to take care of. I'm already planning to grow it back to where it was. Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 03 Feb 2000 09:53:08 PST But, Jurgi, Why? Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) The subject Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:21:19 -0700 Why ask why? C'meer you little..... I'll release some of your rivits! Randy Chabries wrote: > But, Jurgi, Why? > Rand > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jefferson Crow" Subject: RE: (cdc) The subject Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:25:14 -0700 Why Rand???? Just Cause. Raven -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Lowe Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 11:21 AM Why ask why? C'meer you little..... I'll release some of your rivits! Randy Chabries wrote: > But, Jurgi, Why? > Rand > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) Konichi-Wa! Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:58:01 PST Cody, I am ashamed of you! Of course some rivits may have been beaten to the point of submission! of course they may need continual therapy, but we must provide! So, send your contributions to the Free the Rivits fund, make them payable to Randy Chabries, and remember--no contribution is too large for this worthy cause! Have Fun, Randy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) Konichi-Wa! Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:58:31 PST Cody, I am ashamed of you! Of course some rivits may have been beaten to the point of submission! of course they may need continual therapy, but we must provide! So, send your contributions to the Free the Rivits fund, make them payable to Randy Chabries, and remember--no contribution is too large for this worthy cause! Have Fun, Randy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: (cdc) Re: Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:12:25 PST Free the hair, free the hair, let's free everything we can! (Rivits first, though, I figure we can just pop them into everyday culture while it may take a while for hair to grow on people) Have Fun, Rand PS Loved your long hair, hope it grows back quick! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: (cdc) Message-Id: <200002041354375.SM00182@mail.deseretmail.com> Date: 04 Feb 2000 13:54:46 MDT Bart, Can you tell me where the CdC list you created is? Is it on Egroups or Onelist? I forget. Landolf the Learner ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J Crow" Subject: Re: (cdc) Articles! Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:29:42 -0700 make sure the email is all lower cased or it won't go through, Sorry the link probably won't work. Thanks Raven " Go thither, and with unattended eye compare her face with some that I shall show, And I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." William Shakespeare -----Original Message----- >Consider it done. > >-OI > > >>From: "J Crow" >>Reply-To: cdc@lists.xmission.com >>To: >>Subject: Re: (cdc) Articles! >>Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:25:44 -0700 >> >>Ohira Ichtaro >>That would be well appreciated and having them in email is one of the best >>ways to get them. Please send please, please, please >>send to Jcrow@favorites.com that address might change but we will inform >>when it does. >>Raven >> >>" Go thither, and with unattended eye compare >>her face with some that I shall show, And >>I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." >>William Shakespeare >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Cody-Gon Jinn >>To: cdc@lists.xmission.com >>Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:09 PM >>Subject: (cdc) Articles! >> >> >> >Raven, >> > It has come to my attention that you are in need of articles for the >> >Bears Tale, yes? If you do not mind recieving some through e-mail, I can >> >write them. >> > >> > -Ohira Ichtaro >> >______________________________________________________ >> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: Re: (cdc) Message-Id: <200002041354375.SM00182@mail.deseretmail.com> Date: 04 Feb 2000 19:57:01 -0800 It's on egroups. Point to: http://www.egroups.com/group/cote-du-ciel/info.html ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 12:56 PM > Bart, > Can you tell me where the CdC list you created is? Is it on Egroups or Onelist? > I forget. > Landolf the Learner > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Chrysostom Subject: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 06 Feb 2000 10:01:46 -700 Let all of the shire know that on the first day of the year of the Dragon (Saturday, Februrary 5, 2000) John Charles was born to Jelme and Tamar. Mother and child are doing well. Daddy did catch the baby under the midwife's watchful eye. :-) For the public record: Length: 19 3/4" Weight: 6 lb 3 oz Place of birth: Home in Logan Time of birth: 7:30 PM I guess the shire has grown by another. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:13:47 -0700 >Let all of the shire know that on the first day of the year of the Dragon (Saturday, Februrary 5, 2000) John Charles was born to Jelme and Tamar. Mother and child are doing well. Daddy did catch the baby under the midwife's watchful eye. :-) Congratulations to you all! Welcome, John Charles! Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: Re: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 07 Feb 2000 00:45:17 -0700 >Let all of the shire know that on the first day of the year of the Dragon >(Saturday, Februrary 5, 2000) John Charles was born to Jelme and Tamar. >Mother and child are doing well. Daddy did catch the baby under the >midwife's watchful eye. :-) > >For the public record: > > Length: 19 3/4" > Weight: 6 lb 3 oz > Place of birth: Home in Logan > Time of birth: 7:30 PM > >I guess the shire has grown by another. Hail and Well Met! Angus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 07 Feb 2000 14:48:22 -0700 "Merrill C. Pugmire" wrote: > >Let all of the shire know that on the first day of the year of the Dragon > >(Saturday, Februrary 5, 2000) John Charles was born to Jelme and Tamar. > >Mother and child are doing well. Daddy did catch the baby under the > >midwife's watchful eye. :-) > > > >For the public record: > > > > Length: 19 3/4" > > Weight: 6 lb 3 oz > > Place of birth: Home in Logan > > Time of birth: 7:30 PM > > > >I guess the shire has grown by another. > > Wail and Hell Met! > > Angus Did you say "Wail and Hell Met!?" What were you thinking? Jurgi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Margene Larsen Subject: Re: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 07 Feb 2000 14:08:20 -0800 (PST) --- DeseretMail wrote: > >Let all of the shire know that on the first day of > the year of the Dragon (Saturday, Februrary 5, 2000) > John Charles was born to Jelme and Tamar. Mother and > child are doing well. Daddy did catch the baby under > the midwife's watchful eye. :-) > > Congratulations to you all! > Welcome, John Charles! > > Landolf > > I add my very HUGE felicitations!! Wish I could be there to see him. Maggie > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jefferson Crow" Subject: RE: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 07 Feb 2000 15:13:29 -0700 Bad Jurgi, no biscut.... :) Raven -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Lowe Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 2:48 PM "Merrill C. Pugmire" wrote: > >Let all of the shire know that on the first day of the year of the Dragon > >(Saturday, Februrary 5, 2000) John Charles was born to Jelme and Tamar. > >Mother and child are doing well. Daddy did catch the baby under the > >midwife's watchful eye. :-) > > > >For the public record: > > > > Length: 19 3/4" > > Weight: 6 lb 3 oz > > Place of birth: Home in Logan > > Time of birth: 7:30 PM > > > >I guess the shire has grown by another. > > Wail and Hell Met! > > Angus Did you say "Wail and Hell Met!?" What were you thinking? Jurgi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Margene Larsen Subject: Re: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 07 Feb 2000 15:08:06 -0800 (PST) --- Jeff Lowe wrote: > > > "Merrill C. Pugmire" wrote: > > > >Let all of the shire know that on the first day > of the year of the Dragon > > >(Saturday, Februrary 5, 2000) John Charles was > born to Jelme and Tamar. > > >Mother and child are doing well. Daddy did catch > the baby under the > > >midwife's watchful eye. :-) > > > > > >For the public record: > > > > > > Length: 19 3/4" > > > Weight: 6 lb 3 oz > > > Place of birth: Home in Logan > > > Time of birth: 7:30 PM > > > > > >I guess the shire has grown by another. > > > > Wail and Hell Met! > > > > Angus > > Did you say "Wail and Hell Met!?" What were you > thinking? > > Jurgi > > Was that deliberate, or are you missing sleep again? Maggie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cody-Gon Jinn" Subject: RE: (cdc) Jelme and Tamar's New Son Date: 08 Feb 2000 00:38:27 MST On behalf of the two Samurai of Cote Du Ciel, we welcome your new son. May he grow to be strong and honorable, may his spirit shine true. -Ohira Ichtaro -Shimazu Motoharu --The two fires of Cote Du Ciel-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: (cdc) FWD: Re: Greetings Date: 08 Feb 2000 15:39:09 -0700 Below is a conversation with a woman from An Tir who might be moving to C= =F4te du Ciel. Landolf Thank you for your welcome! I am hoping that I will at least somewhat fit = in there. Do you happen to know if there are any other Middle Eastern personas in the area? I'm moving to be with my boyfriend. He used to live there and has some things to take care of (legal stuff). He's probably going to need to be there about 6 months. We'll probably be living in either Logan, Brigham City, or Ogden. I just have to figure out a way to pay for college!!! Hopefully I will be able to find someone to help m'lord with fighting. He'= s only been to three (or is it four) events and he's just starting to find a = niche, fighting heavy. His work schedule won't allow him to go to fighter = practices!!! Thanks again! Ness >From: "Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkowski" >To: olivea_k@hotmail.com >Subject: Greetings >Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 07:35:54 -0800 > >Well met! > > > Hello! My name is Ness McNichole (still to be doccumented). I am an > > English-Irish woman living in York, c. 1350. I surrently reside in >the > > barrony of Three Mountains in the kingdom of An Tir (Portland, OR). > >There are some former C?te du Cielians (Logan, UT) in the Seattle, WA >area. >If you get the chance look up Sir Gillian de Ravely, Mistress Tegan y >Telenores, or Lady Etaine Eames. > > > > I have subscribed to this list in antiscipation of a possible move to >what > > is mundanely Logan, Utah. > >If I may ask, wWhat is the purpose for moving to Logan? >We have a small shire here in Logan that is more family than social >group. >We also have a lot of families with children. We have the reputation >of being >the most 'straight laced' group in Artemisia, but we also have a lot of >fun. > > > > I would love to get to know the people who I will be playing "the >game" > > with. > >We have some established, permanently settled members and a number of >students. We pride ourselves on being a training ground for the >students and >sending them out into the SCA world ready to meet the challenges they >might >meet. We have several Laurels and one Knight (me). I think we have a >very >well rounded group with a good balance between Artisans and martial >prowess. >We hold three fighter practices a month and one week is dedicated to >dance >practice. During fighter practice we sometimes have Arts and Sciences >classes for the non-combatants. > > > > Oh, I also have two other personas (can we say confusion!?!?!;) One: >Tarifa > > til-Jamila is the daughter of a Osmanli (Ottoman) official living in >Egypt > > (I think) in the mid-16th century. The second dosn't really have a >name but > > wears really cool cavaleer clothing! :) > >I think you'll fit right in. We have a wide variety of personna types >in the shire. > > > > Thank you for the time! > > > > Ness McNichole > > Tarifa til-Jamila > > >Please keep in touch, >Pan Landolf, KSCA > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jefferson Crow" Subject: RE: (cdc) FWD: Re: Greetings Date: 08 Feb 2000 16:01:13 -0700 Wide arms, big smiles, and open hearts welcome you to our shire. Our home= is yours. Lord Raven MacLeod Chroncler shire of Cote du Ciel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of DeseretMail Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 3:39 PM Below is a conversation with a woman from An Tir who might be moving to C= =F4te du Ciel. Landolf Thank you for your welcome! I am hoping that I will at least somewhat fi= t in there. Do you happen to know if there are any other Middle Eastern personas in the area? I'm moving to be with my boyfriend. He used to live there and has some things to take care of (legal stuff). He's probably going to need to be there about 6 months. We'll probably be living in either Logan, Brigham City, or Ogden. I just have to figure out a way to pay for college!!! Hopefully I will be able to find someone to help m'lord with fighting. H= e's only been to three (or is it four) events and he's just starting to find = a niche, fighting heavy. His work schedule won't allow him to go to fighte= r practices!!! Thanks again! Ness >From: "Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkowski" >To: olivea_k@hotmail.com >Subject: Greetings >Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 07:35:54 -0800 > >Well met! > > > Hello! My name is Ness McNichole (still to be doccumented). I am an > > English-Irish woman living in York, c. 1350. I surrently reside in >the > > barrony of Three Mountains in the kingdom of An Tir (Portland, OR). > >There are some former C?te du Cielians (Logan, UT) in the Seattle, WA >area. >If you get the chance look up Sir Gillian de Ravely, Mistress Tegan y >Telenores, or Lady Etaine Eames. > > > > I have subscribed to this list in antiscipation of a possible move to >what > > is mundanely Logan, Utah. > >If I may ask, wWhat is the purpose for moving to Logan? >We have a small shire here in Logan that is more family than social >group. >We also have a lot of families with children. We have the reputation >of being >the most 'straight laced' group in Artemisia, but we also have a lot of >fun. > > > > I would love to get to know the people who I will be playing "the >game" > > with. > >We have some established, permanently settled members and a number of >students. We pride ourselves on being a training ground for the >students and >sending them out into the SCA world ready to meet the challenges they >might >meet. We have several Laurels and one Knight (me). I think we have a >very >well rounded group with a good balance between Artisans and martial >prowess. >We hold three fighter practices a month and one week is dedicated to >dance >practice. During fighter practice we sometimes have Arts and Sciences >classes for the non-combatants. > > > > Oh, I also have two other personas (can we say confusion!?!?!;) One: >Tarifa > > til-Jamila is the daughter of a Osmanli (Ottoman) official living in >Egypt > > (I think) in the mid-16th century. The second dosn't really have a >name but > > wears really cool cavaleer clothing! :) > >I think you'll fit right in. We have a wide variety of personna types >in the shire. > > > > Thank you for the time! > > > > Ness McNichole > > Tarifa til-Jamila > > >Please keep in touch, >Pan Landolf, KSCA > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cody-Gon Jinn" Subject: RE: (cdc) FWD: Re: Greetings Date: 08 Feb 2000 17:42:06 MST Once more, the Samurai of Cote Du Ciel welcome another with uplifted hearts. May your stay be pleasant and grand. --Ohira Ichtaro --Shimazu Motoharu ---Two Fires of Cote Du Ciel >Below is a conversation with a woman from An Tir who might be moving to >Côte >du Ciel. >Landolf > >Thank you for your welcome! I am hoping that I will at least somewhat fit >in there. Do you happen to know if there are any other Middle Eastern >personas in the area? > >I'm moving to be with my boyfriend. He used to live there and has some >things to take care of (legal stuff). He's probably going to need to be >there about 6 months. We'll probably be living in either Logan, Brigham >City, or Ogden. I just have to figure out a way to pay for college!!! > >Hopefully I will be able to find someone to help m'lord with fighting. >He's >only been to three (or is it four) events and he's just starting to find a >niche, fighting heavy. His work schedule won't allow him to go to fighter >practices!!! > >Thanks again! > >Ness > > > >From: "Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkowski" > >To: olivea_k@hotmail.com > >Subject: Greetings > >Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 07:35:54 -0800 > > > >Well met! > > > > > Hello! My name is Ness McNichole (still to be doccumented). I am an > > > English-Irish woman living in York, c. 1350. I surrently reside in > >the > > > barrony of Three Mountains in the kingdom of An Tir (Portland, OR). > > > >There are some former C?te du Cielians (Logan, UT) in the Seattle, WA > >area. > >If you get the chance look up Sir Gillian de Ravely, Mistress Tegan y > >Telenores, or Lady Etaine Eames. > > > > > > I have subscribed to this list in antiscipation of a possible move to > >what > > > is mundanely Logan, Utah. > > > >If I may ask, wWhat is the purpose for moving to Logan? > >We have a small shire here in Logan that is more family than social > >group. > >We also have a lot of families with children. We have the reputation > >of being > >the most 'straight laced' group in Artemisia, but we also have a lot of > >fun. > > > > > > I would love to get to know the people who I will be playing "the > >game" > > > with. > > > >We have some established, permanently settled members and a number of > >students. We pride ourselves on being a training ground for the > >students and > >sending them out into the SCA world ready to meet the challenges they > >might > >meet. We have several Laurels and one Knight (me). I think we have a > >very > >well rounded group with a good balance between Artisans and martial > >prowess. > >We hold three fighter practices a month and one week is dedicated to > >dance > >practice. During fighter practice we sometimes have Arts and Sciences > >classes for the non-combatants. > > > > > > Oh, I also have two other personas (can we say confusion!?!?!;) One: > >Tarifa > > > til-Jamila is the daughter of a Osmanli (Ottoman) official living in > >Egypt > > > (I think) in the mid-16th century. The second dosn't really have a > >name but > > > wears really cool cavaleer clothing! :) > > > >I think you'll fit right in. We have a wide variety of personna types > >in the shire. > > > > > > Thank you for the time! > > > > > > Ness McNichole > > > Tarifa til-Jamila > > > > >Please keep in touch, > >Pan Landolf, KSCA > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: (cdc) Are we ready to try egroups yet? Date: 09 Feb 2000 00:19:42 -0800 Greetings Fellow Côte du Cielians, For your consideration, I would like to propose (again) that we move the cdc newsgroup over to egroups.com. Wait. Don't flame me. Not yet. There are a number of good reasons for the move, but first let me allay the concerns of Those Who Are Stuck In Their Ways: It will work just like the current mailing list, if you want it to. Currently, I've set up the group with the following policies: Anyone may join the group. Only members can post to the group. Posted messages are distributed directly to the group. The messages can be read on the web by members only. The group is not listed in the eGroups.com directory. The group has a member directory that its members can see. Replies to messages are sent to the entire group. This is as close to the current cdc settings as I can make them. I think the move will be a good one for a number of reasons, to wit: 1. They do a very good job on privacy. See http://www.egroups.com/info/privacy.html for their privacy statement. I am particularly pleased with their efforts to keep our email addresses out of the clutches of the unscrupulous spambots by never actually printing our full email addresses, but providing a "send email" service instead. 2. It is possible to read the messages "on the web" as well as in your inbox. The automatic archiving means never having to say goodbye to your favorite post. Plus, the Artemisia list is just a click away. 3. The egroups website will also give us a number of interesting features that we might or might not use, including an instant polling system, an archive for whatever we wish, a calendar that we can all participate in updating, and for the terminally online, a Côte du Ciel chat room. 4. I can moderate all of Rand's posts. (Just kidding -- I can't) As of this writing, Angus, Maggie, Landolf, and myself are members. Signing up is not difficult to do, but I'll hold off posting subscribe instructions until we have a chance to discuss it a bit. Okay, I'm braced for it now. Flame away. Bart Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury mka Dan Watson bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jefferson Crow" Subject: RE: (cdc) Are we ready to try egroups yet? Date: 09 Feb 2000 07:51:24 -0700 Bart, Looking forward to the idea now. I signed on as a member of the group but was unable to read any of the posted messages. How does it work??? Raven -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bartholomew Hightower Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 1:20 AM Greetings Fellow C=F4te du Cielians, For your consideration, I would like to propose (again) that we move the cdc newsgroup over to egroups.com. Wait. Don't flame me. Not yet. There are a number of good reasons for the move, but first let me allay the concerns of Those Who Are Stuck In Their Ways: It will work just like the current mailing list, if you want it to. Currently, I've set up the group with the following policies: Anyone may join the group. Only members can post to the group. Posted messages are distributed directly to the group. The messages can be read on the web by members only. The group is not listed in the eGroups.com directory. The group has a member directory that its members can see. Replies to messages are sent to the entire group. This is as close to the current cdc settings as I can make them. I think the move will be a good one for a number of reasons, to wit: 1. They do a very good job on privacy. See http://www.egroups.com/info/privacy.html for their privacy statement. I am particularly pleased with their efforts to keep our email addresses out of the clutches of the unscrupulous spambots by never actually printing our full email addresses, but providing a "send email" service instead. 2. It is possible to read the messages "on the web" as well as in your inbox. The automatic archiving means never having to say goodbye to your favorite post. Plus, the Artemisia list is just a click away. 3. The egroups website will also give us a number of interesting features that we might or might not use, including an instant polling system, an archive for whatever we wish, a calendar that we can all participate in updating, and for the terminally online, a C=F4te du Ciel chat room. 4. I can moderate all of Rand's posts. (Just kidding -- I can't) As of this writing, Angus, Maggie, Landolf, and myself are members. Signing up is not difficult to do, but I'll hold off posting subscribe instructions until we have a chance to discuss it a bit. Okay, I'm braced for it now. Flame away. Bart -- Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury mka Dan Watson bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) Are we ready to try egroups yet? Date: 09 Feb 2000 07:57:36 -0700 I think this is a good move. The Administrators once said they would move = anyone who didn't think they could move themselves.(Do you like how I volun= teered you, Angus and Bartholomew?) I think the only change an individual would have to make is in their person= al address book, but most folks just use the 'reply' function of their emai= l software, anyway. And if you're like me, being able to read the list on = the web is a plus(my email is web-based, too, but I don't like all the emai= l cluttering up my inbox. I can also access the list from work.) YIS, Landolf P.S. Does everyone know how to make the 'o' with the little hat(carat) in C= =F4te du Ciel? It's an ASCII code. Hold down the 'ALT' key and type the nu= mbers 147 and release the 'ALT' key. Viola! =F4 I know! It's easier to just type 'o', but '=F4' looks so much nicer and is= , in fact, the correct spelling. >Greetings Fellow C=F4te du Cielians, > >For your consideration, I would like to propose (again) that we >move the cdc newsgroup over to egroups.com. > >Wait. Don't flame me. Not yet. > >There are a number of good reasons for the move, but first let me >allay the concerns of Those Who Are Stuck In Their Ways: > >It will work just like the current mailing list, if you want it to. > >Currently, I've set up the group with the following policies: > Anyone may join the group. > Only members can post to the group. > Posted messages are distributed directly to the group. > The messages can be read on the web by members only. > The group is not listed in the eGroups.com directory. > The group has a member directory that its members can see. > Replies to messages are sent to the entire group. >This is as close to the current cdc settings as I can make them. > >I think the move will be a good one for a number of reasons, to wit: > >1. They do a very good job on privacy. See > http://www.egroups.com/info/privacy.html for their privacy statement. > I am particularly pleased with their efforts to keep our email > addresses out of the clutches of the unscrupulous spambots by > never actually printing our full email addresses, but providing > a "send email" service instead. > >2. It is possible to read the messages "on the web" as well as in > your inbox. The automatic archiving means never having to say > goodbye to your favorite post. Plus, the Artemisia list is just > a click away. > >3. The egroups website will also give us a number of interesting > features that we might or might not use, including an instant > polling system, an archive for whatever we wish, a calendar that > we can all participate in updating, and for the terminally online, > a C=F4te du Ciel chat room. > >4. I can moderate all of Rand's posts. (Just kidding -- I can't) > >As of this writing, Angus, Maggie, Landolf, and myself are members. >Signing up is not difficult to do, but I'll hold off posting >subscribe instructions until we have a chance to discuss it a bit. > >Okay, I'm braced for it now. Flame away. > >Bart > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury >mka Dan Watson >bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu >http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: (cdc) FWD: E-Groups Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:14:00 -0700 Nice to hear from you. Forwarded as requested. Landolf ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Move to e-groups? YES! You have NO idea how frustrating it is not to be able to respond to email's! I still get them all, and am able to read them all, but I cannot respond from here. (All responses bounce back due to the unique path settings of my email address here.) So I am, of course, all in favor of moving over to e-groups. (Though it has been so long since anybody has heard from me that everybody has probably forgotten that I am still on the list, or maybe even who I am for that matter. :) Kensai p.s. - You may have noticed that I have only posted this to the two of you (for the above reasons). Please feel free to forward this to the list, if you like. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jefferson Crow" Subject: RE: (cdc) FWD: E-Groups Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:19:45 -0700 Hmmmm Kensi I think I've heard that name before somewhere but where was it??? :) Raven -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of DeseretMail Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:14 AM Nice to hear from you. Forwarded as requested. Landolf ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Move to e-groups? YES! You have NO idea how frustrating it is not to be able to respond to email's! I still get them all, and am able to read them all, but I cannot respond from here. (All responses bounce back due to the unique path settings of my email address here.) So I am, of course, all in favor of moving over to e-groups. (Though it has been so long since anybody has heard from me that everybody has probably forgotten that I am still on the list, or maybe even who I am for that matter. :) Kensai p.s. - You may have noticed that I have only posted this to the two of you (for the above reasons). Please feel free to forward this to the list, if you like. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: Re: (cdc) Are we ready to try egroups yet? Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:08:05 -0800 Hi Raven, I didn't see you on the members list; something glitchy must have happened in your sign-up process. The easiest way to sign up is for me to invite you. You receive an email from egroups. All you need do is reply to the message to sign up. I imagine this will be how the changeover goes if we decide we like it. I can get a list of the current members of the cdc list by sending a "who cdc" query to majordomo@lists.xoom.com, and then send out individual invitations. Raven, after you sign up, can you give us a report on how the signup process went for you? -bart ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:51 AM > Bart, > > Looking forward to the idea now. I signed on as a member of the group but > was unable to read any of the posted messages. How does it work??? > > Raven > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bartholomew Hightower > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 1:20 AM > To: Cote du Ciel List > Subject: (cdc) Are we ready to try egroups yet? > > > Greetings Fellow Côte du Cielians, > > For your consideration, I would like to propose (again) that we > move the cdc newsgroup over to egroups.com. > > Wait. Don't flame me. Not yet. > > There are a number of good reasons for the move, but first let me > allay the concerns of Those Who Are Stuck In Their Ways: > > It will work just like the current mailing list, if you want it to. > > Currently, I've set up the group with the following policies: > Anyone may join the group. > Only members can post to the group. > Posted messages are distributed directly to the group. > The messages can be read on the web by members only. > The group is not listed in the eGroups.com directory. > The group has a member directory that its members can see. > Replies to messages are sent to the entire group. > This is as close to the current cdc settings as I can make them. > > I think the move will be a good one for a number of reasons, to wit: > > 1. They do a very good job on privacy. See > http://www.egroups.com/info/privacy.html for their privacy statement. > I am particularly pleased with their efforts to keep our email > addresses out of the clutches of the unscrupulous spambots by > never actually printing our full email addresses, but providing > a "send email" service instead. > > 2. It is possible to read the messages "on the web" as well as in > your inbox. The automatic archiving means never having to say > goodbye to your favorite post. Plus, the Artemisia list is just > a click away. > > 3. The egroups website will also give us a number of interesting > features that we might or might not use, including an instant > polling system, an archive for whatever we wish, a calendar that > we can all participate in updating, and for the terminally online, > a Côte du Ciel chat room. > > 4. I can moderate all of Rand's posts. (Just kidding -- I can't) > > As of this writing, Angus, Maggie, Landolf, and myself are members. > Signing up is not difficult to do, but I'll hold off posting > subscribe instructions until we have a chance to discuss it a bit. > > Okay, I'm braced for it now. Flame away. > > Bart > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury > mka Dan Watson > bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu > http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) Are we ready to try egroups yet? Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:18:04 -0700 I don't know that musch about it and go on alot of faith in others experiences and abilities. I trust you in your thinking and abilities and have but one question, How do I use it to better the message process? What does I do wit it now dat I gots it? Jurgi, ( The owner of a gloified paperweight.) Bartholomew Hightower wrote: > Greetings Fellow Côte du Cielians, > > For your consideration, I would like to propose (again) that we > move the cdc newsgroup over to egroups.com. > > Wait. Don't flame me. Not yet. > > There are a number of good reasons for the move, but first let me > allay the concerns of Those Who Are Stuck In Their Ways: > > It will work just like the current mailing list, if you want it to. > > Currently, I've set up the group with the following policies: > Anyone may join the group. > Only members can post to the group. > Posted messages are distributed directly to the group. > The messages can be read on the web by members only. > The group is not listed in the eGroups.com directory. > The group has a member directory that its members can see. > Replies to messages are sent to the entire group. > This is as close to the current cdc settings as I can make them. > > I think the move will be a good one for a number of reasons, to wit: > > 1. They do a very good job on privacy. See > http://www.egroups.com/info/privacy.html for their privacy statement. > I am particularly pleased with their efforts to keep our email > addresses out of the clutches of the unscrupulous spambots by > never actually printing our full email addresses, but providing > a "send email" service instead. > > 2. It is possible to read the messages "on the web" as well as in > your inbox. The automatic archiving means never having to say > goodbye to your favorite post. Plus, the Artemisia list is just > a click away. > > 3. The egroups website will also give us a number of interesting > features that we might or might not use, including an instant > polling system, an archive for whatever we wish, a calendar that > we can all participate in updating, and for the terminally online, > a Côte du Ciel chat room. > > 4. I can moderate all of Rand's posts. (Just kidding -- I can't) > > As of this writing, Angus, Maggie, Landolf, and myself are members. > Signing up is not difficult to do, but I'll hold off posting > subscribe instructions until we have a chance to discuss it a bit. > > Okay, I'm braced for it now. Flame away. > > Bart > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury > mka Dan Watson > bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu > http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: (cdc) =?iso-8859-1?Q?the_cute_little_'o'_with_the_hat_-_=F4_?= Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:19:34 -0800 Landolf wrote: > P.S. Does everyone know how to make the 'o' with the little hat(carat) in Côte du Ciel? It's an ASCII code. Hold down the 'ALT' key and type the numbers 147 and release the 'ALT' key. Viola! ô > I know! It's easier to just type 'o', but 'ô' looks so much nicer and is, in fact, the correct spelling. Dang, that still doesn't work for me. Must be something about the way my mailer is set up. The only way I can make the hat appear is to type it in some other application that understands the extended character set, and then copy/paste it into my mail utility. Usually, I'll use MSWord, and type 'ctrl-shift-6' followed by an 'o' to type 'Côte du Ciel' and then stick it in the mail message. It's a pin, but it does look nice. -bart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Garvin" Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:52:23 PST I would change over, if for no other reason than to let Kensai in on the , shall we say, news? But I am a member and can't figure out how to use the *#@$ thing. I have followed Angus's instructions to the letter and still can't get it to work. If someone could tutor me, I wouln't mind. Can everyone who is on now get that? Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Garvin" Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:57:20 PST This is for the person from An Tir. You are on the list, yes? Another plug for the list to stay where it is, people can find us, maybe we could use both? Just an idea. Anyway, My name is Grainne, an Irish Celt that dabbles in Mideastern costuming and dance. When do you foresee yourself moving to our fair shire? HOpefully our fair shire, I'm biased, but I think we have more fun than Ogden. Anyway, hope to see you soon (when you do get here, fighter's practice is Wed. 7 pm at the Whittier Center, about 300 N 400 E). I live just a block from USU and could show you around if you need it. Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: (cdc) Re: new listy thing Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:37:23 PST I DON'T GET IT! Is this a conspiracy against me? Can not-so-well-intentioned members of the shire south of cdc and north of SLC read our stuff? Is this an attempt to stifle my free-the-rivits campaign? AAAHHHHH!!!!!! Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jefferson Crow" Subject: RE: (cdc) Re: new listy thing Date: 09 Feb 2000 11:51:37 -0700 Don't worry Rand. I was thinking about it the other day and realized that I have been freeing rivits for years. Reintroducing them into wildlife at even the most unexpected places and times. The entire lingdom has know about this for a long time. Raven -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-cdc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Randy Chabries Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 11:37 AM I DON'T GET IT! Is this a conspiracy against me? Can not-so-well-intentioned members of the shire south of cdc and north of SLC read our stuff? Is this an attempt to stifle my free-the-rivits campaign? AAAHHHHH!!!!!! Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shimazu Motoharu" Subject: (cdc) Sounds good Date: 09 Feb 2000 19:08:57 GMT A Chat? A Poll? Anti-Spam?! Sign me up today! Shimazu Motoharu Proud Samurai of Côte Du Ciel ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: (cdc) The new list -- Okay lets do it. Date: 09 Feb 2000 14:04:49 -0800 The tide of opinion seems to be amenable to switching over to egroups, so I will go ahead with the switch. This shall be our plan: 1. I'll send invitations out to each of the email addresses on the old cdc list, and to the list of email addresses on the shire website. If you wish to join the new list, all you need do is hit your reply button and send it off. You will automatically start receiving the mail traffic on the new group. You need not perform any other action. 2. You may wish to unsubscribe from the old cdc list. There is not really a reason to do this. I would recommend that we keep the old list around until we hear from all the current members. If you do wish to unsubscribe, just send an email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with the words "unsubscribe cdc" in the text of the message -- not the subject. 3. Follow the link to egroups if you wish to see what is there. It's not too difficult to work your way around the site and see all its amenities. I would recommend that you try to fill out your user profile, but it's not required, and many people prefer not to. That's really about it. I'll watch both groups for a while to look for stragglers and cross-post when necessary. Watch for your invitation. Bart Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury mka Dan Watson bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: (cdc) Re: Date: 09 Feb 2000 14:06:59 -0800 she is not on the shire list, but I'll forward it to her. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:57 AM > This is for the person from An Tir. You are on the list, yes? Another plug > for the list to stay where it is, people can find us, maybe we could use > both? Just an idea. Anyway, My name is Grainne, an Irish Celt that dabbles > in Mideastern costuming and dance. When do you foresee yourself moving to > our fair shire? HOpefully our fair shire, I'm biased, but I think we have > more fun than Ogden. Anyway, hope to see you soon (when you do get here, > fighter's practice is Wed. 7 pm at the Whittier Center, about 300 N 400 E). > I live just a block from USU and could show you around if you need it. > Grainne > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Date: 09 Feb 2000 14:42:51 -0700 Sorry, I should have sent a post that I already forwarded that to her. Mea culpa. Landolf the Lazy ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: cdc@lists.xmission.com >she is not on the shire list, but I'll forward it to her. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gina Garvin" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:57 AM > > >> This is for the person from An Tir. You are on the list, yes? Another >plug >> for the list to stay where it is, people can find us, maybe we could use >> both? Just an idea. Anyway, My name is Grainne, an Irish Celt that >dabbles >> in Mideastern costuming and dance. When do you foresee yourself moving to >> our fair shire? HOpefully our fair shire, I'm biased, but I think we have >> more fun than Ogden. Anyway, hope to see you soon (when you do get here, >> fighter's practice is Wed. 7 pm at the Whittier Center, about 300 N 400 >E). >> I live just a block from USU and could show you around if you need it. >> Grainne >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J Crow" Subject: Re: (cdc) FWD: E-Groups Date: 09 Feb 2000 15:36:52 -0700 we haven't forgot you. :) Isabelle " Go thither, and with unattended eye compare her face with some that I shall show, And I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." William Shakespeare -----Original Message----- >Nice to hear from you. Forwarded as requested. >Landolf > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: Brian_Allred@autolivasp.com >Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:01:24 -0700 > > > >Move to e-groups? YES! You have NO idea how frustrating it is not to be able >to respond to email's! I still get them all, and am able to read them all, but >I cannot respond from here. (All responses bounce back due to the unique path >settings of my email address here.) So I am, of course, all in favor of moving >over to e-groups. (Though it has been so long since anybody has heard from me >that everybody has probably forgotten that I am still on the list, or maybe even >who I am for that matter. :) > Kensai > >p.s. - You may have noticed that I have only posted this to the two of you (for >the above reasons). Please feel free to forward this to the list, if you like. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J Crow" Subject: Re: (cdc) Are we ready to try egroups yet? Date: 09 Feb 2000 15:40:04 -0700 you have a glorified paperweight?! Cool I'm jealous!! Isabelle " Go thither, and with unattended eye compare her face with some that I shall show, And I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." William Shakespeare -----Original Message----- >I don't know that musch about it and go on alot of faith in others experiences >and abilities. I trust you in your thinking and abilities and have but = one >question, How do I use it to better the message process? What does I = do wit >it now dat I gots it? > >Jurgi, ( The owner of a gloified paperweight.) > >Bartholomew Hightower wrote: > >> Greetings Fellow C=F4te du Cielians, >> >> For your consideration, I would like to propose (again) that we >> move the cdc newsgroup over to egroups.com. >> >> Wait. Don't flame me. Not yet. >> >> There are a number of good reasons for the move, but first let me >> allay the concerns of Those Who Are Stuck In Their Ways: >> >> It will work just like the current mailing list, if you want it to. >> >> Currently, I've set up the group with the following policies: >> Anyone may join the group. >> Only members can post to the group. >> Posted messages are distributed directly to the group. >> The messages can be read on the web by members only. >> The group is not listed in the eGroups.com directory. >> The group has a member directory that its members can see. >> Replies to messages are sent to the entire group. >> This is as close to the current cdc settings as I can make them. >> >> I think the move will be a good one for a number of reasons, to wit: >> >> 1. They do a very good job on privacy. See >> http://www.egroups.com/info/privacy.html for their privacy statemen= t. >> I am particularly pleased with their efforts to keep our email >> addresses out of the clutches of the unscrupulous spambots by >> never actually printing our full email addresses, but providing >> a "send email" service instead. >> >> 2. It is possible to read the messages "on the web" as well as in >> your inbox. The automatic archiving means never having to say >> goodbye to your favorite post. Plus, the Artemisia list is just >> a click away. >> >> 3. The egroups website will also give us a number of interesting >> features that we might or might not use, including an instant >> polling system, an archive for whatever we wish, a calendar that >> we can all participate in updating, and for the terminally online, >> a C=F4te du Ciel chat room. >> >> 4. I can moderate all of Rand's posts. (Just kidding -- I can't) >> >> As of this writing, Angus, Maggie, Landolf, and myself are members. >> Signing up is not difficult to do, but I'll hold off posting >> subscribe instructions until we have a chance to discuss it a bit. >> >> Okay, I'm braced for it now. Flame away. >> >> Bart >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --- -- >> Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury >> mka Dan Watson >> bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu >> http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: (cdc) FWD: from Yasmeena Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:54:15 MDT Hello Good Friend, Well, the season for equestrian events is nearing and I have a few on the schedule. Here are the events listed so far. Spring Thaw, Twae Linnes first weekend in April May Day Carosello, Arn Hold first weekend in May Uprising, One Thousand Eyes second weekend in June Raptor War, Arn Hold first weekend in Sept. When is your Harvest War and are we in for a tourney? I am looking forward to making an Kingdom Equestrian Champion this year and am proud to say our Baron and Baroness will be making their selection at our May Day Carosello... May 6th. I'm looking for rental horses so be prepared to come and have fun. The goal this year is to have rental horses at these events so interested members can give it a try. Let me know what you are thinking. THL Yasmeena ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:16:48 -0700 Yasmeena wrote regarding Equestrian: > When is your Harvest War and are we in for a tourney? I think there is not enough room for Equestrian at the Harvest War site. Does Mantua have a place where this could be done? Rebecca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:14:30 -0700 What about the south of the fighting field? Rebecca Mikkelsen wrote: > Yasmeena wrote regarding Equestrian: > > > When is your Harvest War and are we in for a tourney? > > I think there is not enough room for Equestrian at the Harvest War > site. Does Mantua have a place where this could be done? > > Rebecca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:38:45 -0700 (I am not trying to be ornery here . . . Just thinking aloud) Jurgi asks: "What about the south of the fighting field?" Do you mean where all the long grass is? We would have to have the grass cut. Would the fighting scare the horses? Where/how would the horses be stabled? Would the forest service allow horses up in that "adminitrative" area? Would it be difficult to get a horse trailer up there? > What about the south of the fighting field? > > Rebecca Mikkelsen wrote: > > > Yasmeena wrote regarding Equestrian: > > > > > When is your Harvest War and are we in for a tourney? > > > > I think there is not enough room for Equestrian at the Harvest War > > site. Does Mantua have a place where this could be done? > > > > Rebecca > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:35:24 -0800 I would also worry about the terrain. It's been a long time since I had a horse, but I would be wary of anything above a trot in that area with an unshod hose. I've never seen equestrian activities at an SCA event, are most of the hosres shod? Do they run around a lot? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 10:38 AM > (I am not trying to be ornery here . . . Just thinking aloud) > > Jurgi asks: > > "What about the south of the fighting field?" > > Do you mean where all the long grass is? We would have to have > the grass cut. Would the fighting scare the horses? Where/how would > the horses be stabled? Would the forest service allow horses up in > that "adminitrative" area? Would it be difficult to get a horse > trailer up there? > > > What about the south of the fighting field? > > > > Rebecca Mikkelsen wrote: > > > > > Yasmeena wrote regarding Equestrian: > > > > > > > When is your Harvest War and are we in for a tourney? > > > > > > I think there is not enough room for Equestrian at the Harvest War > > > site. Does Mantua have a place where this could be done? > > > > > > Rebecca > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Margene Larsen Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:25:59 -0800 (PST) I think that most of the horses will be shod, because of the mundane places they have to ride most days. Yes, the fighting will probably scare the horses, and that could be a problem because of the type of temporary fencing used (if they were to keep the horses there). I think that it would be fairly easy to get a horse trailer up there, the road is better than some I've taken with one, there's even plenty of room to turn around. The problem is, that horses and Thunder might not mix real well. If the horses were kept somewhere else... maybe that open area out the back road from the campground? (maybe I am not remembering right). Someone once mentioned the scout (girls?) camp up the road. Anyway, that's my take, It has possabilities, but a lot of negatives, too. Like, wern't they supposed to cut the grass on the fighting field last year and didn't? Would that happen again? Not trying to stir up anything. Would love to help in any way. Maggie --- Rebecca Mikkelsen wrote: > (I am not trying to be ornery here . . . Just > thinking aloud) > > Jurgi asks: > > "What about the south of the fighting field?" > > Do you mean where all the long grass is? We would > have to have > the grass cut. Would the fighting scare the horses? > Where/how would > the horses be stabled? Would the forest service > allow horses up in > that "adminitrative" area? Would it be difficult to > get a horse > trailer up there? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 15:29:03 MDT I contacted the Forest Service to ask LJ, the ranger that deals with us the most, about equestrian activities. She just informed me that horses are not allowed in USFS campgrounds. I'll tell HL Yasmeena. Question: Would the Shire be willing to host an equestrian tourney at the USU arena in October? I'd be willing to to the footwork, with some assistance from Megwen(and maybe Bart?). Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: (cdc) Re: Old cdc List Date: 10 Feb 2000 16:11:18 -0800 No, I'm not an administrator for the old list, but I think there are some admin types listening. Can anyone help Kensai get dropped? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:23 PM > Is it you I need to talk to about getitng removed from the old CDC > list? I cannot unsubscribe for the same reasons I could not talk to > xmissions server before. (It does not recognize me.) Could you get me > dropped from the old list? > Kensai > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 16:13:29 -0800 I've found the person to contact regarding use of the arena -- Tiffany Day (unsure of spelling). Her phone number is 797-2142. I have a message on her voice mail. If anyone asks, I'm now the 'faculty advisor' for the USU branch. I'll post the details as I get them. -bart ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:31 PM > I contacted the Forest Service to ask LJ, the ranger that deals with us the most, about equestrian activities. > She just informed me that horses are not allowed in USFS campgrounds. I'll tell HL Yasmeena. > > Question: Would the Shire be willing to host an equestrian tourney at the USU arena in October? I'd be willing to to the footwork, with some assistance from Megwen(and maybe Bart?). > > Landolf > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J Crow" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:40:48 -0700 If you could tell me who it is that I need to contact I will call the Forestry Dept and find out what we can do \/ not do. Raven " Go thither, and with unattended eye compare her face with some that I shall show, And I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." William Shakespeare -----Original Message----- Yasmeena wrote regarding Equestrian: > When is your Harvest War and are we in for a tourney? I think there is not enough room for Equestrian at the Harvest War site. Does Mantua have a place where this could be done? Rebecca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 11 Feb 2000 07:33:36 -0700 >I've found the person to contact regarding use of the arena -- >Tiffany Day (unsure of spelling). Her phone number is 797-2142. > >I have a message on her voice mail. If anyone asks, I'm now the >'faculty advisor' for the USU branch. I'll post the details as >I get them. > You're good! And quick, too! Thanks for the help. Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Equestrian Date: 11 Feb 2000 07:45:10 -0700 >If you could tell me who it is that I need to contact I will call the >Forestry Dept and find out what we can do \/ not do. > I've got this one, thanks. Can you get that letter we spoke of? 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I don't really have any announcements to post right now, except Lady Heather and I have planned a belly dance workshop starting on the 23 of Feb and continueing for several weeks, with breaks for dance practice. If the ladies don't mind, we could open this one up to anyone. I'll let the beginners decide. Just as a reassurance, usually men are much more awkward to begin with because they seldom even think about their hips. That's just in general, don't be offended! Thank you all, Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: (cdc) Re: Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:51:40 -0700 I have an announcement for all the fighters. I will not be to the next two practices because of Scouting shows which we are doing. I have recruited Nick, Ryan and Dan to aid in this. Since we are all from the Southern region and that is where the Shows are. If you need anything let me know. Jurgi Gina Garvin wrote: > I like the idea of hosting an equestrian event sometime this fall. I know > of some mundane people here who would be interested in the educational > aspects of the event (my boss's daughter is very interested in horses and > they do home schooling, so everywhere is an educational experience). Would > it be a weekend thing, or just a day? Maybe mostly a day with a few things > happening on Fri or Sun? (The reason I ask, is Sat. is their Sabbath). > Anyway, Thank you Landolf and Bart for jumping right on that, it sounds like > fun. I would love to try it out too. > I don't really have any announcements to post right now, except Lady > Heather and I have planned a belly dance workshop starting on the 23 of Feb > and continueing for several weeks, with breaks for dance practice. If the > ladies don't mind, we could open this one up to anyone. I'll let the > beginners decide. Just as a reassurance, usually men are much more awkward > to begin with because they seldom even think about their hips. That's just > in general, don't be offended! > Thank you all, > Grainne > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: (cdc) Equestrian Tournament Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:03:49 MDT HL Yasmeena thinks that having an Equestrian Tourney off-site during Harvest would be not draw the support the she would like to see. She thinks that a tourney in October would be great. In fact, she thinks that would be a great time to have the Equestrian Championship Tournament! What a coup if we can pull this one off. The are a couple of conflicts that we need to work around, i.e. Crown Tournament and deer season. Here's my recommendation: Use the Cache County arena after deer season and reserve the Armory or the little pavillion Rebecca and I used for the Fool's Revel we did years ago for a feast after the tourney. YIS, Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: (cdc) what's happening on the egroup list Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:55:55 -0800 I realize that there are still a few people not on the egroups list, so I am posting a digest here of the last several day's postings. I am not including all of the "free the rivets" traffic -- you can thank me later . We are up to 17 members on the egroups list. Again, let me know if you want me to manually sign you up. -bart ---- I can speak! After all that time watching and reading behind the lines while being electronically gagged. It is good to be heard (even if it is only myself I am talking to.) Lord Kensai ---- Greetings Lord Kensai, I know that we haven't met, and I am curious: When were you here? Where did you go? Why did you leave? Do you still play in the SCA? How are things different where you are? This is your chance. Speak and we shall listen! -bart ---- Figures that nobody remembers me. I guess it serves me right. I joined the SCA in 1991. Lord Sevja intriduced me to C ôte du Ciel and (surpise surpise) I was hooked. This was the same year Sir Landolf and Mistress Rebecca came over from England. (They were Lordship and Ladyship then, and Landolf was still a squire). I stayed active for about the next three years, during which time I became a great light-fighter and a passible heavy fighter. I am also Sir Landolfs premier squire and have managed to earn my Award of Arms, Griffon's Talon, and Pillar of Artemesia - all in that order. In 1994 I moved south and started school. It was at that point that I had to put the SCA on the back-burner and dedicate my time to family and school. As things stand now I am graduating this year, and plan on getting back 'full time' into the SCA as quickly as possible. There are too many new faces that I do not know. :-) (And too many others that have moved away since then. Some of the best times I have ever had inthe SCA were spent with Nial, Lidia, Kian, Landolf, and Lord Biartni. Every one of these has since undergone a Title change or has moved on - ah the good old days! - I really must be getting old.) To Motoharu and Haiku - Though my first (registered) persona is from 14th century England, my second persona is Samurai. Lord ShÖtetsu Kensai ---- >I've found the person to contact regarding use of the arena -- >Tiffany Day (unsure of spelling). Her phone number is 797-2142. > >I have a message on her voice mail. If anyone asks, I'm now the >'faculty advisor' for the USU branch. I'll post the details as >I get them. > You're good! And quick, too! Thanks for the help. Landolf ---- >If you could tell me who it is that I need to contact I will call the >Forestry Dept and find out what we can do \/ not do. > I've got this one, thanks. Can you get that letter we spoke of? Landolf ---- Landolf, I've got the letter wirtten. LEt me know where to send it and it will be on the way. Raven ---- Have you got this one too Landolf? Raven -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:34 AM Cc: cote-du-ciel@egroups.com >I've found the person to contact regarding use of the arena -- >Tiffany Day (unsure of spelling). Her phone number is 797-2142. > >I have a message on her voice mail. If anyone asks, I'm now the >'faculty advisor' for the USU branch. I'll post the details as >I get them. > You're good! And quick, too! Thanks for the help. Landolf ---- > Have you got this one too Landolf? > > Raven Roger, roger. If we host an equestrian tourney I will take charge of it. What I want to do right now is a preliminary investigation into sites and dates. Landolf ---- > Landolf, > > I've got the letter wirtten. LEt me know where to send it and it will be on > the way. > > Raven I'll get that info to you ASAP Landolf ---- cool beans ley me know if I can help Raven ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 12:29 PM > > > Have you got this one too Landolf? > > > > Raven > Roger, roger. If we host an equestrian tourney I will take charge of > it. > What I want to do right now is a preliminary investigation into sites > and > dates. > Landolf ---- I am still trying to get the details on the equestrian arena at USU. I have some preliminary information. There is a small indoor arena (75' x 100') that would probably not be useful. There is a larger ourdoor arena. If we qualified for it's use, it probably would be at no cost to us (USU and non-profit groups typically fall into this category). The arena is typically unused on weekends. There may be some cost associated with setting up barriers or bleachers. Usually for nonprofits there is no cost associated with this. The arena is east of Lee's market on 1400 north in Logan. There are some other areas in the vicinity that we might also use. There are additionally some larger areas not in the vicinity that may be available to us if needed. I still need to talk with the individual who coordinates the use of the arena. I also want to check potential overnight stabling for horses. Still working on this, bart ---- Here is the information that I have found on equestrian facilities. I've found information on two facilites: (1) The USU equestrian arena (2) The Cache County Fairgrounds indoor arena 1. The USU arena The point of contact for use of the arena is Tiffany Julen-Day, 797-2142. She is an extension equine specialist and an associate professor in the Dept of Animal, Dairy, and Veterinary Sciences at USU, so mind your p's and q's when you talk to her (though she is quite nice and very helpful). The USU arena measures 150' by 90'. That is not overly large. They teach mostly western horsemanship classes. The cost for the site would be free, as long as we are good users and pick up after ourselves. They would even drag it for us. There might be a small fee associated with setting up bleachers, it that were required. Availability is excellent; the site is seldom used on weekends. Parking may be a problem. There is space for about 30 cars, and limited side-of-the-road parking. USU cannot stable any horses, due to restrictions on the potential risk of communication of diseases. If stabling would be needed, the closest place to look would be the Cache County Fairgrounds. $10 per night, but we would need to be careful in choosing a date so that we would have a greater chance of availability. The ambience would leave a lot to be desired. It is in close proximity a supermarket, the USU research park, a busy street, a hospital, and lots of apartment housing. 2. The Cache County Fairgrounds indoor arena The point of contact for use of the arena is Shegay at 750-9896. The Fairgrounds are run by the Logan City Parks and Recreation Department. I don't yet have an exact dimension for the arena, but I am told that it is bigger than the USU arena. The cost for the site would be $150. Additionally, a $100 dollar deposite would be required, to be refunded if we play nice. The site is heated and bleachers are a part of the setup. Availability is tight. There is a weekend open in late May, after that we are looking at September. Shegay will start taking reservations for this winter on the first Monday of June. Here advice is to show up early and get a good number. Winter availability is better than in the summer. She will start taking reservations for next summer also in June of this year, she is not yet sure when. Parking is not a problem. Stabling is $10/night subject to availability. The ambience is marginally better (I think) in that we have the park to work with, and the enclosed facility may provide for better suspension of disbelief. Recommendations --------------- Someone should contact Yasmeena to determine what the needs of an equestrian even would be w.r.t. horses. Perhaps we should be looking for open pasture to play in. I think we should keep looking for sites. I've seen an arena of some sort on 600 West out near the Logan City airport (more open space, but it is in the flight path for landing at the airport). Hmmm. Maybe we need someone that raises horses... Given what we have, if we wanted to put together a quick day-event this summer, and it meets the minimum requirements, then I would go for the USU arena. On the other hand, a midwinter equestrian event may have just enough novelty to bring people out. Say, I wonder if we could fight in there too... Hope this helps; let me know if there is more I can do. Bart Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury mka Dan Watson bartholome-@dan.cs.usu.edu http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew ---- I went to take a look at each site. > 1. The USU arena > The ambience would leave a lot to be desired. It is in close proximity > a supermarket, the USU research park, a busy street, a hospital, and > lots of apartment housing. This is most certainly true. One edge of the arena borders the street between the USU Horse Unit and ConvergSys - a telemarketing firm. It would be hard to get "in the mood" at this site. > 2. The Cache County Fairgrounds indoor arena > The site is heated and bleachers are a part of the setup. There is not a lot of room for bleachers in the current configuration of the arena. There is a walkway around one side, and a small set of bleachers on the end. There is a lot of space for standing and looking, and bring-your-own type seating may work if the populace doesn't mind looking through the bars. I wonder if we might allow pavilions to set up *inside* the fence. Even though it is indoors, The pavilions would definitely add to the atmosphere... well, it's a thought. The interior dimension of the site is 225' by 125'. I am having a brochure sent to me. ---- Bart, There is another arena in the area. The North Park Horse Arena near my house. It isn't used very much. Would you like me to look into it? It's outdoor but near a park where we could have other stuff. Francesca da Bari Cote du Ciel (Logan, Utah) Francesca.da.Bari ---- Why certainly!! I'm just the foot soldier for Landolf on this one, but I think we should gather all the info we can at this point. -bart ---- "bartholomew hightower" bartholome-@dan.cs.usu.edu wrote: > Why certainly!! I'm just the foot soldier for Landolf on this one, > but I think we should gather all the info we can at this point. > > -bart And I truly appreciate the work you've done, too. You've done much more than I expected. Thanks. One more favor. When I worked for the Agriculture, Dairy and Veternary Science Dept I often helped the Navajo Sheep Project people with their computers. I know the Sheep Project is no longer supported by USU, but near their facility in North Logan (1400 E. and waay North) was a large indoor arena that I was told was owned by USU. Can you look into that building? > karalee larsen pugmire francesca.da.bar-@usa.net wrote: > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/cote-du-ciel/?start=45 > > Bart, > > There is another arena in the area. The North Park Horse Arena near my > > house. It isn't used very much. Would you like me to look into it? > > > > It's outdoor but near a park where we could have other stuff. > > > > Francesca da Bari > > Cote du Ciel (Logan, Utah) > > Francesca.da.Bari Any assistance you can give would be appreciated. The more people we have looking the better our chances are of finding a suitable facility. I've also been eyeing Sherwood Hills and the area where they have the Great Western Adventure cookout. I need to follow up on this idea myself. We might be able to use this site during Harvest War. I like the idea of the Cache County arena in late fall (October). And $250 is not a lot to pay for such a facility. Especially if we get our deposit back. I reviewed the requirements for the events. 'Behead the Enemy' is the longest event and requires 210 feet. This includes starting and runout areas. We could do it in 225 feet with a little room to spare. Each of the events, with the exception of archery, needs only 30 feet of width. Let me run these ideas past HL Yasmeena. We still have a little time to work on this. I think it would be great to host this type of event and HL Grainne has given me permission to look into it. Thanks again to everyone who has helped, and has offered to help. YIS, Landolf ---- HL Yasmeena thinks that having an Equestrian Tourney off-site during Harvest would be not draw the support the she would like to see. She thinks that a tourney in October would be great. In fact, she thinks that would be a great time to have the Equestrian Championship Tournament! What a coup if we can pull this one off. The are a couple of conflicts that we need to work around, i.e. Crown Tournament and deer season. Here's my recommendation: Use the Cache County arena after deer season and reserve the Armory or the little pavillion Rebecca and I used for the Fool's Revel we did years ago for a feast after the tourney. YIS, Landolf ---- Landolf wrote: > I reviewed the requirements for the events. 'Behead the Enemy' is > the longest event and requires 210 feet. This includes starting > and runout areas. We could do it in 225 feet with a little room > to spare. Each of the events, with the exception of archery, needs > only 30 feet of width. I am not sure if the 225 feet is the dimension of the building, or of the temporary corral fencing inside. We might lose 10 or 20 feet if the latter is the case. I'll let you know as soon as I get the brochure. Landolf wrote: > One more favor. When I worked for the Agriculture, Dairy > and Veternary Science Dept I often helped the Navajo Sheep > Project people with their computers. I know the Sheep Project > is no longer supported by USU, but near their facility in North > Logan (1400 E. and waay North) was a large indoor arena > that I was told was owned by USU. Can you look into that building? You are not going to like this one. Yes, that would have been a great spot to have an equestrian event, but after the sheep project, the university in all their wisdom decided the land would be more valuable for some other use and *tore the building down*. Prof. Day said she went into the building once for a surplus sale and just cried about not being able to use it for her classes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jefferson Crow" Subject: Re: (cdc) what's happening on the egroup list Date: 15 Feb 2000 15:54:29 -0800 Bart Will you send an invite mail to my home e-mail account jcrow@favorites.co= m Thank you ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 2:55 PM > I realize that there are still a few people not on the > egroups list, so I am posting a digest here of the last several > day's postings. I am not including all of the "free the > rivets" traffic -- you can thank me later . > > We are up to 17 members on the egroups list. Again, let me know > if you want me to manually sign you up. > > -bart > > > > ---- > > Subject: Greetings > From: Brian Allred > > > > I can speak! After all that time watching and reading behind the lines > while being electronically gagged. It is good to be heard (even if it > is only myself I am talking to.) > Lord Kensai > > > > > > ---- > > > Subject: Re: Greetings > From: Bartholomew Hightower > > > > Greetings Lord Kensai, > > I know that we haven't met, and I am curious: When were > you here? Where did you go? Why did you leave? > > Do you still play in the SCA? How are things different > where you are? > > This is your chance. Speak and we shall listen! > > -bart > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: Greetings > From: brian.allre- > > > Figures that nobody remembers me. I guess it serves me right. I joined = the > SCA > in 1991. Lord Sevja intriduced me to C > > =F4te du Ciel and (surpise surpise) I was > hooked. This was the same year Sir Landolf and Mistress Rebecca came o= ver > from > England. (They were Lordship and Ladyship then, and Landolf was still = a > squire). I stayed active for about the next three years, during which t= ime I > became a great light-fighter and a passible heavy fighter. I am also S= ir > Landolfs premier squire and have managed to earn my Award of Arms, Griffon's > Talon, and Pillar of Artemesia - all in that order. In 1994 I moved so= uth > and > started school. It was at that point that I had to put the SCA on the > back-burner and dedicate my time to family and school. As things stand now > I am > graduating this year, and plan on getting back 'full time' into the SCA= as > quickly as possible. There are too many new faces that I do not know. = :-) > (And > too many others that have moved away since then. Some of the best time= s I > have > ever had inthe SCA were spent with Nial, Lidia, Kian, Landolf, and Lord > Biartni. > Every one of these has since undergone a Title change or has moved on -= ah > the > good old days! - I really must be getting old.) > To Motoharu and Haiku - Though my first (registered) persona is fro= m > 14th > century England, my second persona is Samurai. > > Lord Sh=D6tetsu Kensai > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: DeseretMail > > > >I've found the person to contact regarding use of the arena -- > >Tiffany Day (unsure of spelling). Her phone number is 797-2142. > > > >I have a message on her voice mail. If anyone asks, I'm now the > >'faculty advisor' for the USU branch. I'll post the details as > >I get them. > > > You're good! And quick, too! Thanks for the help. > Landolf > > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: DeseretMail > > > >If you could tell me who it is that I need to contact I will call the > >Forestry Dept and find out what we can do \/ not do. > > > I've got this one, thanks. > Can you get that letter we spoke of? > Landolf > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: Jefferson Crow > > > > Landolf, > > I've got the letter wirtten. LEt me know where to send it and it will b= e on > the way. > > Raven > > > > > > ---- > > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: Jefferson Crow > > > > Have you got this one too Landolf? > > Raven > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeseretMail [mailto:landol-@mail.deseretmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:34 AM > To: cd-@lists.xmission.com > Cc: cote-du-ciel@egroups.com > Subject: [cote-du-ciel] Re: (cdc) Equestrian > > > > >I've found the person to contact regarding use of the arena -- > >Tiffany Day (unsure of spelling). Her phone number is 797-2142. > > > >I have a message on her voice mail. If anyone asks, I'm now the > >'faculty advisor' for the USU branch. I'll post the details as > >I get them. > > > You're good! And quick, too! Thanks for the help. > Landolf > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkow > > > > Have you got this one too Landolf? > > > > Raven > Roger, roger. If we host an equestrian tourney I will take charge of > it. > What I want to do right now is a preliminary investigation into sites > and > dates. > Landolf > > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkow > > > > Landolf, > > > > I've got the letter wirtten. LEt me know where to send it and it will > be on > > the way. > > > > Raven > I'll get that info to you ASAP > Landolf > > > > > > > ---- > > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: Jefferson Crow > > > > cool beans ley me know if I can help > > Raven > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkowski landol-@deseretmail.com > To: cote-du-cie-@egroups.com > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 12:29 PM > Subject: [cote-du-ciel] Re: (cdc) Equestrian > > > > > > > Have you got this one too Landolf? > > > > > > Raven > > Roger, roger. If we host an equestrian tourney I will take charge of > > it. > > What I want to do right now is a preliminary investigation into sites > > and > > dates. > > Landolf > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: (cdc) Equestrian > From: Bartholomew Hightower > > > > I am still trying to get the details on the equestrian arena > at USU. I have some preliminary information. > > There is a small indoor arena (75' x 100') that would > probably not be useful. > > There is a larger ourdoor arena. If we qualified for it's > use, it probably would be at no cost to us (USU and non-profit > groups typically fall into this category). The arena is > typically unused on weekends. There may be some cost associated > with setting up barriers or bleachers. Usually for nonprofits > there is no cost associated with this. The arena is east > of Lee's market on 1400 north in Logan. There are some > other areas in the vicinity that we might also use. > > There are additionally some larger areas not in the vicinity > that may be available to us if needed. > > I still need to talk with the individual who coordinates the > use of the arena. I also want to check potential overnight > stabling for horses. > > Still working on this, > > bart > > > > > > > ---- > > > Subject: The straight poop on equestrian facilities > From: Bartholomew Hightower > > > > Here is the information that I have found on equestrian facilities. > > I've found information on two facilites: > > (1) The USU equestrian arena > (2) The Cache County Fairgrounds indoor arena > > > 1. The USU arena > > The point of contact for use of the arena is Tiffany Julen-Day, > 797-2142. She is an extension equine specialist and an associate > professor in the Dept of Animal, Dairy, and Veterinary Sciences at > USU, so mind your p's and q's when you talk to her (though she is > quite nice and very helpful). > > The USU arena measures 150' by 90'. That is not overly large. They > teach mostly western horsemanship classes. > > The cost for the site would be free, as long as we are good users and > pick up after ourselves. They would even drag it for us. > > There might be a small fee associated with setting up bleachers, > it that were required. > > Availability is excellent; the site is seldom used on weekends. > > Parking may be a problem. There is space for about 30 cars, and > limited side-of-the-road parking. > > USU cannot stable any horses, due to restrictions on the potential > risk of communication of diseases. > > If stabling would be needed, the closest place to look would be the > Cache County Fairgrounds. $10 per night, but we would need to be > careful in choosing a date so that we would have a greater chance of > availability. > > The ambience would leave a lot to be desired. It is in close proximity > a supermarket, the USU research park, a busy street, a hospital, and > lots of apartment housing. > > > 2. The Cache County Fairgrounds indoor arena > > The point of contact for use of the arena is Shegay at 750-9896. The > Fairgrounds are run by the Logan City Parks and Recreation Department. > > I don't yet have an exact dimension for the arena, but I am told > that it is bigger than the USU arena. > > The cost for the site would be $150. Additionally, a $100 dollar > deposite would be required, to be refunded if we play nice. > > The site is heated and bleachers are a part of the setup. > > Availability is tight. There is a weekend open in late May, after that > we are looking at September. Shegay will start taking reservations > for this winter on the first Monday of June. Here advice is to show up > early and get a good number. Winter availability is better than in > the summer. She will start taking reservations for next summer also > in June of this year, she is not yet sure when. > > Parking is not a problem. > > Stabling is $10/night subject to availability. > > The ambience is marginally better (I think) in that we have the park > to work with, and the enclosed facility may provide for better > suspension of disbelief. > > > Recommendations > --------------- > > Someone should contact Yasmeena to determine what the needs of > an equestrian even would be w.r.t. horses. Perhaps we should be > looking for open pasture to play in. > > I think we should keep looking for sites. I've seen an arena of > some sort on 600 West out near the Logan City airport (more open > space, but it is in the flight path for landing at the airport). > Hmmm. Maybe we need someone that raises horses... > > Given what we have, if we wanted to put together a quick day-event > this summer, and it meets the minimum requirements, then I would > go for the USU arena. > > On the other hand, a midwinter equestrian event may have just enough > novelty to bring people out. Say, I wonder if we could fight in > there too... > > > > Hope this helps; let me know if there is more I can do. > > Bart > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= --- - > Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury > mka Dan Watson > bartholome-@dan.cs.usu.edu > http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew > > > > > > > ---- > > > Subject: Re: The straight poop on equestrian facilities > From: Bartholomew Hightower > > > > I went to take a look at each site. > > > > 1. The USU arena > > The ambience would leave a lot to be desired. It is in close proximi= ty > > a supermarket, the USU research park, a busy street, a hospital, and > > lots of apartment housing. > > This is most certainly true. One edge of the arena borders the > street between the USU Horse Unit and ConvergSys - a telemarketing > firm. It would be hard to get "in the mood" at this site. > > > > > 2. The Cache County Fairgrounds indoor arena > > > The site is heated and bleachers are a part of the setup. > > There is not a lot of room for bleachers in the current configuration > of the arena. There is a walkway around one side, and a small set > of bleachers on the end. There is a lot of space for standing and > looking, and bring-your-own type seating may work if the populace > doesn't mind looking through the bars. I wonder if we might allow > pavilions to set up *inside* the fence. Even though it is indoors, > The pavilions would definitely add to the atmosphere... well, it's a > thought. > > The interior dimension of the site is 225' by 125'. I am having > a brochure sent to me. > > > > > > ---- > > > Subject: Re: The straight poop on equestrian facilities > From: Karalee Larsen Pugmire > Bart, > There is another arena in the area. The North Park Horse Arena near my > house. It isn't used very much. Would you like me to look into it? > > It's outdoor but near a park where we could have other stuff. > > Francesca da Bari > Cote du Ciel (Logan, Utah) > Francesca.da.Bari > > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: The straight poop on equestrian facilities > From: Bartholomew Hightower > > > > Why certainly!! I'm just the foot soldier for Landolf on this one, > but I think we should gather all the info we can at this point. > > -bart > > > > > > > > ---- > > > Subject: Re: The straight poop on equestrian facilities > From: Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkow > > > "bartholomew hightower" bartholome-@dan.cs.usu.edu wrote: > > > Why certainly!! I'm just the foot soldier for Landolf on this one, > > but I think we should gather all the info we can at this point. > > > > -bart > > And I truly appreciate the work you've done, too. You've done much > more > than I expected. Thanks. > One more favor. When I worked for the Agriculture, Dairy and > Veternary > Science Dept I often helped the Navajo Sheep Project people with their > computers. I know the Sheep Project is no longer supported by USU, but > near > their facility in North Logan (1400 E. and waay North) was a large > indoor arena > that I was told was owned by USU. Can you look into that building? > > > karalee larsen pugmire francesca.da.bar-@usa.net wrote: > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/cote-du-ciel/?start=3D4= 5 > > > Bart, > > > There is another arena in the area. The North Park Horse Arena near > my > > > house. It isn't used very much. Would you like me to look into it? > > > > > > It's outdoor but near a park where we could have other stuff. > > > > > > Francesca da Bari > > > Cote du Ciel (Logan, Utah) > > > Francesca.da.Bari > > Any assistance you can give would be appreciated. The more people we > have > looking the better our chances are of finding a suitable facility. > > I've also been eyeing Sherwood Hills and the area where they have the > Great > Western Adventure cookout. I need to follow up on this idea myself. > We might > be able to use this site during Harvest War. > > I like the idea of the Cache County arena in late fall (October). And > $250 is not > a lot to pay for such a facility. Especially if we get our deposit > back. > > I reviewed the requirements for the events. 'Behead the Enemy' is the > longest > event and requires 210 feet. This includes starting and runout areas. > We > could do it in 225 feet with a little room to spare. Each of the > events, with the > exception of archery, needs only 30 feet of width. > > Let me run these ideas past HL Yasmeena. We still have a little time > to work > on this. I think it would be great to host this type of event and HL > Grainne has > given me permission to look into it. > > Thanks again to everyone who has helped, and has offered to help. > YIS, > Landolf > > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Equestrian Tournament > From: DeseretMail > > > > HL Yasmeena thinks that having an Equestrian Tourney off-site during Harvest > would be not draw the support the she would like to see. > She thinks that a tourney in October would be great. In fact, she thin= ks > that would be a great time to have the Equestrian Championship Tourname= nt! > What a coup if we can pull this one off. The are a couple of conflicts that > we need to work around, i.e. Crown Tournament and deer season. > Here's my recommendation: Use the Cache County arena after deer season and > reserve the Armory or the little pavillion Rebecca and I used for the Fool's > Revel we did years ago for a feast after the tourney. > YIS, > Landolf > > > > > > ---- > > Subject: Re: The straight poop on equestrian facilities > From: Bartholomew Hightower > > > > Landolf wrote: > > > I reviewed the requirements for the events. 'Behead the Enemy' is > > the longest event and requires 210 feet. This includes starting > > and runout areas. We could do it in 225 feet with a little room > > to spare. Each of the events, with the exception of archery, needs > > only 30 feet of width. > > I am not sure if the 225 feet is the dimension of the building, > or of the temporary corral fencing inside. We might lose 10 or > 20 feet if the latter is the case. I'll let you know as soon as > I get the brochure. > > > > Landolf wrote: > > > One more favor. When I worked for the Agriculture, Dairy > > and Veternary Science Dept I often helped the Navajo Sheep > > Project people with their computers. I know the Sheep Project > > is no longer supported by USU, but near their facility in North > > Logan (1400 E. and waay North) was a large indoor arena > > that I was told was owned by USU. Can you look into that building? > > You are not going to like this one. Yes, that would have been a > great spot to have an equestrian event, but after the sheep project, > the university in all their wisdom decided the land would be more > valuable for some other use and *tore the building down*. Prof. Day > said she went into the building once for a surplus sale and just > cried about not being able to use it for her classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: Re: (cdc) what's happening on the egroup list Date: 15 Feb 2000 16:00:40 -0800 no problemo. -bart ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 3:54 PM > Bart > > Will you send an invite mail to my home e-mail account jcrow@favorites.com > > Thank you ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J Crow" Subject: (cdc) egroup Date: 15 Feb 2000 16:57:40 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF77D5.C50A7700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bart=20 I goofed and sent a don't want to be a member email on accident please = fix. It won't let me send mail to the egroup. Isabelle " Go thither, and with unattended eye compare her face with some that I shall show, And I will make thee think thy Swan a Crow." William Shakespeare ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF77D5.C50A7700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0059_01BF77D6.493CEEE0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) what's happening on the egroup list Date: 16 Feb 2000 08:42:15 PST CENSORSHIP!!! BIAS!!! FIRST AMMENDMENT!!! Free the Rivits!!! We'll start by freeing the rivits of a young man named BARTHOLOMEW!!! Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DeseretMail" Subject: Re: (cdc) what's happening on the egroup list Date: 16 Feb 2000 10:14:32 -0700 >CENSORSHIP!!! BIAS!!! FIRST AMMENDMENT!!! >Free the Rivits!!! >We'll start by freeing the rivits of a young man named BARTHOLOMEW!!! >Rand Rand, I getting ready to pound some rivets into submission on a revision to my helmet and there's not a thing you can do about it! Nyah,nyah, pthththbt! Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Garvin" Date: 16 Feb 2000 11:27:24 PST I'm sorry you can't reply to this yet, I'll be on the other thing soon enough. Kensai, I remember you. It hasn't been that long, just long enough for new people to join us. I like all the ideas for the equestrian event. Keep up the good work. M. Jurgen and his crew won't be at fighters practice this evening, so we may have a very small turn out. I would encourage everyone to come out though. Maybe the rapier people would even like to have more space! If nothing else works, I will resort to bribery! Hope to see you all soon, Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) what's happening on the egroup list Date: 16 Feb 2000 12:05:23 PST My minion...I mean minions will find you. You will pay, oh yes, you will pay. Rand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: (cdc) Re: Date: 16 Feb 2000 14:21:31 -0700 Someone will need to pick up the Rapier equipment before 5:30 in order to take it to practice. Jurgi Gina Garvin wrote: > I'm sorry you can't reply to this yet, I'll be on the other thing soon > enough. Kensai, I remember you. It hasn't been that long, just long enough > for new people to join us. > I like all the ideas for the equestrian event. Keep up the good work. > M. Jurgen and his crew won't be at fighters practice this evening, so we may > have a very small turn out. I would encourage everyone to come out though. > Maybe the rapier people would even like to have more space! If nothing else > works, I will resort to bribery! > Hope to see you all soon, > Grainne > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Margene Larsen Subject: (cdc) Miss you Date: 16 Feb 2000 18:03:14 -0800 (PST) Hi everyone, I was just wondering how HL Heidi is doing. I haven't talked to her for a while and miss her. I miss you all and find the locals rather hard to get ahold of. Fair winds and following seas Maggie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bartholomew Hightower" Subject: (cdc) mailing list: switchover status Date: 17 Feb 2000 16:05:02 -0800 Greetings Côte du Cielians, Thank you for your continuing patience in the switchover to the new mailing list. As traffic grows on the new list we are seeing some replicated messages. This will settle out as we all get used to it. I've changed the policy for the group so that anyone may post (even nonmembers). This is to allow those of use with quirky email servers that mangle their email addresses to post without hassle. If we see any spam on the group, I'll have to clamp down on this. I think that, essentially, we are all here now. The only addresses on the old list that are NOT on the new list include: arkasha@digitalpla.net awaiting response jahugi@xmission.com awaiting response jjhugi@xmission.com awaiting response melangell@earthlink.net awaiting response radford.perry@lmco.com awaiting response tdillemuth@hotmail.com awaiting response tecknoman@sisna.com awaiting response xenaman@hotmail.com awaiting response I recognize some of these as people that have moved out of the shire, some I don't recognize. I am going to assume that these addresses belong to people that don't check their email very often, and just unilaterally sign them up. Then, when they pop back up, they won't be lost, wondering where we all are. Plus, we won't have to worry about cross-posting any more. And a big hearty Côte du Ciel elist welcome to our latest listener: Nicholas! In your service, -bart p.s. Just in case you are wondering, the membership of the list now includes: Merrill C. Pugmire Bartholomew Hightower Brian Allred Chris Chrysostom Ryan J South Francesca Curtis Kidd Art Wagner Gina Garvin J Crow Jefferson Crow Cody-Gon Jinn Jeff Lowe Karalee Larsen Pugmire Olan Mikkelsen/Landolf Witkowski Mairwen Nicholas Randy Chabries Rebecca Mikkelsen Shimazu Motoharu Genie Larsen Lord Bartholomew Hightower of Canterbury mka Dan Watson bartholomew@dan.cs.usu.edu http://www.cs.usu.edu/~watson/bartholomew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Trekkies Date: 22 Feb 2000 12:41:13 -0700 Corpora II.D. "Anyone may attend Society events provided he or she wears an attempt at pre-17th century dress, conforms to the provisions of the By-Laws and Corpora, complies with any other requirements (such as site fees or waivers) which may be imposed by the Society, and behaves as a lady or gentlemen." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Garvin" Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:55:02 PST Raven, sorry, my computer has been on the blink and haven't had a chance to respond. What's up, send me an email to my address and I'll get backwith you as soon as I can. I can't change the meeting but we can have a discussion during an early announcements. Until then lets not worry. I still have all of the loaner garb. I don't think it would be a problem to have it at St Pyer's for the crew of the Rend. whatever. You know those weird looking people. I think it would be fun to have them in garb with their face makeup. and i'd be willing to help them out in fitting them, since I know work at home. I have the time for it and would like to help out. I think that's everything. Let's worry about the horse thing when we here from the appropriate kingdom people. I'll be sure to ask my superior too. Thank you for all of your help everyone. see you, Grainne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Chabries" Subject: (cdc) Flying Pancakes Date: 24 Feb 2000 19:54:12 PST As I was searching through some Children's verse I came across this small piece. The author is unknown and is acknowledged as a traditional verse. Stir a pancake Mix a pancake Pop it in a pan Cook a pancake Toss a pancake Catch it if you can How long do you think that pancakes have been roaming? When they attribute something as traditional how old is that? (Angus?) Lady Rixa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Flying Pancakes Date: 25 Feb 2000 08:53:57 -0700 > As I was searching through some Children's verse I came across this small > piece. The author is unknown and is acknowledged as a traditional verse. > > Stir a pancake > Mix a pancake > Pop it in a pan > > Cook a pancake > Toss a pancake > Catch it if you can > > How long do you think that pancakes have been roaming? When they attribute > something as traditional how old is that? (Angus?) > > Lady Rixa "Traditional" often means 18th or 19th century. However, some "traditional" stuff is based on even older stuff. Pancakes have been made since at least medieval times in England. My guess is that this verse is referring to the pancakes that are made on Shrove Tuesday, just before the beginning of Lent. Folks made pancakes to use up any eggs and fat that would be forbidden during the Lenten period. In some places in England they have pancake races where the entrants run along flipping pancakes in a pan as they go. Rebecca