From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Bot abilities
Date: 02 May 1998 01:28:08 -0700

Hi,


As you know, a bot has been added to #macflightsims. The following are
it's current capabilities as provided by the bot:


-*MacAirOne*- Hi, I'm MacAirOne, the channel bot. I perform various
functions to make IRC more useful. They are as follows:

-*MacAirOne*- (to the channel) "!ladder <<ladder name> <<handle>"-Tells
the ladder statistics of -*MacAirOne*- (to the channel) "!seen
<<handle>"-Returns the last time I saw the given handle.

-*MacAirOne*- (to the channel) "!url <<URL search>"-Searches my URL
database for <<URL search>.

-*MacAirOne*- (to the channel) "<<keywords> is at <<URL>"-Adds a URL to
my database. eg. "ROE is at
http://www.inficad.com/~cdb/CWW/Competition/ROE.html".

-*MacAirOne*- (to me privately) "/msg MacAirOne cww"-Adds your user
record to me. This will be used for future improvements, and allows
others to do !seen queries on you.

-*MacAirOne*- Note:, replace all text between and including the
brackets when using a command. For example, to see when _Dale_ was last
seen on the channel, you would take the "!seen <<nick>" and turn it
into "!seen _Dale_" before typing it to the channel.


Aside from the standard capabilities that anyone might be use to to,
Mao has a new one. That is the ability to parse the ladder files at 10
min intervals and provide a person's stats for their standing on the
ladders.


This idea wasn't mine, it originated from within the CWW list. The
coding wasn't mine to make this happen, that was created by someone who
shall remain nameless for his own reasons and at his request. The only
thing I did was provide the access to the acct where the info is
stored.


As far as I am concerned, this shows what can be done when we work
together and share ideas and abilities. If anyone has any other ideas
for the bot, please let me know. I am not promising anything cause I
would've thought the parsing to the bot impossible, but who knows? Not
me


Dale

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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) H2 Tourney
Date: 02 May 1998 15:06:47 -0700

Hi,

I am thinking about hold an H2 tourney under the Gunsmoke tournament series
from a long time ago. I am looking for level of interest and any
suggestions for a ROE

Dale

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From: Dan Champagne <dan@navnet.net>
Subject: (cww) Falcon 4.0 for Mac
Date: 02 May 1998 21:13:36 -0300

<bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param><color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</para=
m><bigger>M</bigger></color><bigger>acSoft
announce Falcon 4 for
Mac!</bigger></fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param><color>=
<param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>[May
1, 13:36]</color></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><bigger>
It's official, MacSoft=20

and Westlake Interactive are working together very close to release=20

=46alcon 4 on the MacOS. Here is the press release of MacSoft:MACSOFT=20

KICKS OFF DEVELOPMENT OF FALCON 4.0 FOR MACINTOSH MINNEAPOLIS, MN,
April=20

30, 1998 - Continuing to expand its line of best-selling Macintosh=20

games, MacSoft, an affiliate of GT Interactive Software Corp. (NASDAQ:


GTIS), announced today that it has teamed with Mark Adams and Phil
Sulak=20

of Westlake Interactive, Inc. to begin development of the highly=20

anticipated Falcon 4.0 for Macintosh. Westlake Interactive is=20

responsible for converting many popular Macintosh games including
Shadow=20

Warrior, X-Men: The Ravages of Apocalypse and Unreal. Additionally,
Mark=20

Adams has been involved in the conversion of Macintosh mega-hits Quake


and Duke Nukem 3D. Falcon 4.0 is scheduled for release near the end of


1998. "We are very excited to have the talented team at Westlake=20

Interactive working on the conversion of Falcon 4.0," said Peter Tamte,


executive director for MacSoft. "Their extensive Mac and PC expertise=20

will be critical as they convert this very sophisticated flight=20

simulator to the Mac." Originally developed for Windows 95 by=20

MicroProse=AE, Falcon 4.0 is a single and multi-player combat simulation


game set in the Korean peninsula with a real-time, full-scale war in=20

progress. Players take on the role of a pilot in an F-16 jet fighter
and=20

face a variety of tactical land and air missions, including intense=20

dogfights. Providing the most authentic F-16C flight modeling, Falcon=20

4.0 includes highly detailed models of avionics systems, weapons=20

systems, threat environments and artificial intelligence, plus the most


detailed graphics ever released in a flight simulator. The PC version
is=20

scheduled for release by MicroProse during the late spring.=20

Headquartered in NY, GT Interactive Software Corp. is a leading global


publisher of entertainment and edutainment software under the GT=20

Interactive, Cavedog Entertainment, SingleTrac and MacSoft brands for=20

personal computers as well as game consoles from Sony Computer=20

Entertainment Inc. and Nintendo. The company operates development=20

studios in Seattle, Salt Lake City and San Luis Obispo, CA, as well as


MN-based GT Value Products, a market share leader in budget software=20

under the WizardWorks, CompuWorks and Slash brands. Located on the
World=20

Wide Web at http://www.gtinteractive.com, GT Interactive is publicly=20

traded on the NASDAQ National Market System under the symbol GTIS.And=20

now the press release from Westlake Interactive:WESTLAKE ANNOUNCE=20

SIGNING OF FALCON 4 WITH MACSOFT! Austin, TX, May 1, 1998-- Westlake=20

Interactive announced today that it has begun development of the Mac OS


version of Falcon 4.0 for leading game publisher MacSoft. Falcon 4.0,=20

being developed originally by Microprose on Windows 95, is the newest=20

installment in one of the world's most popular and critically acclaimed


air combat simulation series. Set in the Korean peninsula with a=20

real-time war in progress, you take the role of a single pilot in an=20

=46-16 jet fighter. 3-d photorealistic, texture-mapped graphics and=20

detailed models of F-16 avionics, weapons, and threats provide the most


realistic combat flight simulation available. Westlake intends to bring


the full Falcon 4.0 experience to the Mac, taking advantage of Mac=20

specific features like AppleTalk networking and hardware 3D=20

acceleration. The Falcon 4.0 Mac project will be lead by Westlake's
Phil=20

Sulak, a veteran of Mac flight sims, having worked on A-10 Attack! and


=46light Unlimited for the Mac. Additional programming & design work will


be provided by Mac gaming veterans Mark Adams (Chuck Yeager's Air=20

Combat, Links Pro, Duke Nukem) and Ken Cobb (System Shock, Flight=20

Unlimited) also with Westlake Interactive. As you may see, there will
be=20

3D hardware acceleration for Falcon 4 (RAVE and GLIDE), I am adding it


to the list right now. </bigger></fontfamily>





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From: Dan Champagne <dan@navnet.net>
Subject: (cww) FAQ for new 3d fx
Date: 02 May 1998 21:16:45 -0300

<bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param><bigger><bigger><bigger><bigger>Vo=
odoo
2 and Game Wizard
=46AQ</bigger></bigger></bigger></bigger></fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><pa=
ram>Helvetica</param><bigger> 	 <bold>	Q:</bold>
How much memory does the Game Wizard have? <bold>A:</bold> The Game
Wizard has a=20

total of 8MB of memory, 4MB for the frame buffer and 2 sets of 2MB each


for texture mapping. (Performing texture mapping in parallel [3=20

processors], along with its 192-bit memory architecture, accounts for=20

the significant increases in performance.) We will consider future=20

versions with 12MB or 16MB; however, at this time demand doesn't appear


to warrant them. <bold>Q:</bold> Will games developed for the Voodoo
chipset work=20

with Voodoo2? <bold>A:</bold> Yes. <bold>Q:</bold> Will the Game Wizard
support higher=20

resolutions/bit-depths? <bold>A:</bold> Yes, resolutions up to 1024x768
@ 16-bit will=20

be supported; however, this is entirely dependent upon the game itself


being able to draw to the increased resolutions. Several games
currently=20

take advantage of these increased resolution and bit-depth
capabilities.=20

<bold>Q:</bold> Will the Game Wizard be supported by PC emulators?
<bold>A:</bold> Yes, we believe=20

this will happen and happen soon. (Sorry folks, no formal announcement


yet!) <bold>Q:</bold> Does the Game Wizard support the 3Dfx Glide API?
<bold>A:</bold> Yes. <bold>Q:</bold>

 Does the Game Wizard support the 3Dfx MacGlide API? <bold>A:</bold>
Yes. <bold>Q:</bold> Does the=20

Game Wizard support QuickDraw 3DRAVE? <bold>A:</bold> Yes, in the same
manner any=20

Voodoo card does; i.e., when a game draws to a Mac in 3D, even when it


takes advantage of Voodoo or Voodoo2 acceleration, it is drawing in=20

QuickDraw 3D. Now would be a good time to discuss exactly what the Game


Wizard, or any Voodoo/Voodoo2 card does and doesn't do. The only time=20

this chipset is active is when a game 'calls' it. These engines are not


used for any purpose other than 3D game acceleration. Even then, they=20

can only work when drawing 'full screen', i.e. not in a window. These=20

cards are installed between the graphics card, or built-in, and the=20

monitor through the use of a pass-thru cable. When not being 'called'
by=20

a game, they sit idle and the graphics display to the monitor passes=20

through untouched. They cannot affect, control or be integrated into
the=20

desktop because the desktop is defined before they even see it.=20

(However, they accelerate the hell out of it when its a full-screen 3D


game!) Its because this card is designed only to be the best possible
3D=20

game accelerator you can buy, that it enjoys its reputation... it IS
the=20

best possible 3D game accelerator you can buy. (Neither this card nor=20

any other Voodoo2 card is designed to provide 3D in a window.)
<bold>Q:</bold> What=20

games are to be bundled with the Game Wizard? <bold>A:</bold> We don't
know yet...=20

still working on it. <bold>Q:</bold> Where can the Game Wizard be
purchased [when its=20

available]? <bold>A:</bold> MacWarehouse, MacMall, MacZone and your
local, friendly=20

Apple dealer. <bold>Q:</bold> Will there be a combo Voodoo2 and
graphics card for the=20

Mac? <bold>A:</bold> Can't answer that yet. It certainly won't happen
soon enough to=20

warrant not buying a Game Wizard as soon as its available!
<bold>Q:</bold> What=20

improvement can Mac users expect with Game Wizard, compared to the=20

Power3D ? <bold>A:</bold> The 192-bit memory architecture and parallel
processing=20

feature of Voodoo2 provides 3 times the raw POWER over the Voodoo=20

chipset. [The Game Wizard utilizes three processors.] Because of this,


any slow-downs users are experiencing when in higher resolutions or=20

texture depths/choices will be greatly reduced or even disappear=20

totally! More people will be able to enjoy these games at higher
quality=20

levels. Additionally, now that the standard has been raised and more=20

power is made available, new games will surely push these benefits for


even greater game performances. Use of a Game Wizard will put the Mac=20

user in the best possible configuration for game playing. [Note - as=20

seen on the PC, a fast CPU may be required for best performance, as=20

slower CPUs will result in not much better performance than the Voodoo
1=20

chipset cards.-Mike] <bold>Q:</bold> Will game Wizard work on
"all-in-one" Power Mac=20

? If yes, how ? Or won't it, like the Power3D, unless once plugs in an


external monitor ? Please, explain. <bold>A:</bold> The Game Wizard
will not work=20

with these [current] internal monitors. Because the all-in-one Macs
feed=20

the internal monitor directly, and in such a way that it would be very


messy to intercept the display internally, the Game Wizard can't=20

position itself between the graphics source and the monitor. Since
these=20

models would require a graphics card to drive an external monitor, any


single PCI slot machine wouldn't have the option available even with an


external monitor. Any new model which would allow access between the=20

graphics source and the monitor, or have multiple PCI slots, may be
able=20

to accommodate a Game Wizard; however, these all-in-one models have=20

exhibited noise problems in the past due to the proximity of the=20

magnetic fields associated with the monitor and installed expansion=20

cards, which are not exposed to these EMI threats in other=20

configurations. This would have to be examined on a case-by-case basis.
<bold>

Q:</bold> Did get an exclusive deal with 3Dfx for Voodoo2 as Techworks
did with=20

Voodoo1 ? If yes, will you be the only company to have a Voodoo2 card=20

for the Mac ? For how long ? What do you know of Techworks' plans ?
<bold>A:</bold> I=20

can't speak for TechWorks, but we are the only Company which has=20

announced a Voodoo2 product for the Mac. I don't know of any other=20

potential offering to the Mac community. I hope this is the case for a


long, long time! <bold>Q:</bold> You seem to be developing the Mac
drivers=20

internally. Are you also working with Techworks and / or 3Dfx ? Please,


explain. <bold>A:</bold> We are developing Mac drivers for the Voodoo2
internally. We=20

have been developing Mac graphics & video drivers since 1986, longer=20

than anyone else still alive; therefore, we are confident that our=20

offering will be the best possible one available regardless of what may


happen in the future. As it stands right now, we aren't aware of any=20

other Mac driver development for this chipset. <bold>Q:</bold> Do you
feel like 3Dfx=20

plans to deliver Voodoo2 chips for Mac and PC cards manufacturers at
the=20

same time, or will Mac come second ? <bold>A:</bold> Our production
quantity of=20

chipset deliveries from 3Dfx coming later than deliveries to some PC=20

card providers has more to do with normal business concerns than any=20

distinction between Mac and PC. 3Dfx has not short-changed the Mac=20

community; in fact, we are getting great support from 3Dfx! Our getting


chips later is because we entered the arena later than some of the=20

others and our volumes are significantly lower. In this industry, it is


normal for this situation to result in later deliveries, particularly=20

when related to a chipset as HOT as this one. The allocations of=20

thischipset are a serious issue and can not be avoided. As it worked=20

out, there was really no harm done because we haven't finished the Mac


drivers anyway. <bold>Q:</bold> What price do you expect to sell Game
Wizard when it=20

ships around june Who will be your distributor in France ?
<bold>A:</bold> In the US,=20

the Game Wizard will sell for $299. We haven't established distribution


in France yet and are anxious to find the right partner. In May we are


opening an office in the UK to support our European channel
development.=20

<bold>Q:</bold> How woud you introduce Micro Conversions using a few
sentences ? <bold>A:</bold>

 Micro Conversions, Inc. is a Mac-only developer providing award
winning=20

solutions since 1985. For more than 10 years, we only sold through
OEMs.=20

If you've been using a Mac for very long, chances are you've
experienced=20

some of our products. Micro Conversions now offers its products under=20

its own name and is still as committed to the Mac and the Mac community


as ever! Our newest product is the Game Wizard. Incorporating 3Dfx=20

Voodoo2 technology, the Game Wizard offers PCI Mac users the
opportunity=20

to enjoy the best possible game performance available today at a price


which is very reasonable, especially when considering the relative=20

volumes between it and similar products on the PC side. Optimized for=20

the Mac, the Game Wizard is a must-have for Mac gamers!
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From: Elton Aguilar <eeagle@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: (cww) FAQ for new 3d fx
Date: 02 May 1998 18:46:29 +0000


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Thx Zorro for this information... this is really exciting. Q. Is this
shipping yet? If not, is there an estimated ship date?

Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

Echo out!
 
 
 

Dan Champagne wrote:

> Voodoo 2 and Game Wizard FAQ Q: How much memory does the Game Wizard
> have? A: The Game Wizard has a
> total of 8MB of memory, 4MB for the frame buffer and 2 sets of 2MB
> each
>
> for texture mapping. (Performing texture mapping in parallel [3
> processors], along with its 192-bit memory architecture, accounts for
> the significant increases in performance.) We will consider future
> versions with 12MB or 16MB; however, at this time demand doesn't
> appear
>
> to warrant them. Q: Will games developed for the Voodoo chipset work
> with Voodoo2? A: Yes. Q: Will the Game Wizard support higher
> resolutions/bit-depths? A: Yes, resolutions up to 1024x768 @ 16-bit
> will
> be supported; however, this is entirely dependent upon the game itself
>
> being able to draw to the increased resolutions. Several games
> currently
> take advantage of these increased resolution and bit-depth
> capabilities.
> Q: Will the Game Wizard be supported by PC emulators? A: Yes, we
> believe
> this will happen and happen soon. (Sorry folks, no formal announcement
>
> yet!) Q: Does the Game Wizard support the 3Dfx Glide API? A: Yes. Q:
> Does the Game Wizard support the 3Dfx MacGlide API? A: Yes. Q: Does
> the
> Game Wizard support QuickDraw 3DRAVE? A: Yes, in the same manner any
> Voodoo card does; i.e., when a game draws to a Mac in 3D, even when it
>
> takes advantage of Voodoo or Voodoo2 acceleration, it is drawing in
> QuickDraw 3D. Now would be a good time to discuss exactly what the
> Game
>
> Wizard, or any Voodoo/Voodoo2 card does and doesn't do. The only time
> this chipset is active is when a game 'calls' it. These engines are
> not
>
> used for any purpose other than 3D game acceleration. Even then, they
> can only work when drawing 'full screen', i.e. not in a window. These
> cards are installed between the graphics card, or built-in, and the
> monitor through the use of a pass-thru cable. When not being 'called'
> by
> a game, they sit idle and the graphics display to the monitor passes
> through untouched. They cannot affect, control or be integrated into
> the
> desktop because the desktop is defined before they even see it.
> (However, they accelerate the hell out of it when its a full-screen 3D
>
> game!) Its because this card is designed only to be the best possible
> 3D
> game accelerator you can buy, that it enjoys its reputation... it IS
> the
> best possible 3D game accelerator you can buy. (Neither this card nor
> any other Voodoo2 card is designed to provide 3D in a window.) Q: What
>
> games are to be bundled with the Game Wizard? A: We don't know yet...
> still working on it. Q: Where can the Game Wizard be purchased [when
> its
> available]? A: MacWarehouse, MacMall, MacZone and your local, friendly
>
> Apple dealer. Q: Will there be a combo Voodoo2 and graphics card for
> the
> Mac? A: Can't answer that yet. It certainly won't happen soon enough
> to
> warrant not buying a Game Wizard as soon as its available! Q: What
> improvement can Mac users expect with Game Wizard, compared to the
> Power3D ? A: The 192-bit memory architecture and parallel processing
> feature of Voodoo2 provides 3 times the raw POWER over the Voodoo
> chipset. [The Game Wizard utilizes three processors.] Because of this,
>
> any slow-downs users are experiencing when in higher resolutions or
> texture depths/choices will be greatly reduced or even disappear
> totally! More people will be able to enjoy these games at higher
> quality
> levels. Additionally, now that the standard has been raised and more
> power is made available, new games will surely push these benefits for
>
> even greater game performances. Use of a Game Wizard will put the Mac
> user in the best possible configuration for game playing. [Note - as
> seen on the PC, a fast CPU may be required for best performance, as
> slower CPUs will result in not much better performance than the Voodoo
> 1
> chipset cards.-Mike] Q: Will game Wizard work on "all-in-one" Power
> Mac
> ? If yes, how ? Or won't it, like the Power3D, unless once plugs in an
>
> external monitor ? Please, explain. A: The Game Wizard will not work
> with these [current] internal monitors. Because the all-in-one Macs
> feed
> the internal monitor directly, and in such a way that it would be very
>
> messy to intercept the display internally, the Game Wizard can't
> position itself between the graphics source and the monitor. Since
> these
> models would require a graphics card to drive an external monitor, any
>
> single PCI slot machine wouldn't have the option available even with
> an
>
> external monitor. Any new model which would allow access between the
> graphics source and the monitor, or have multiple PCI slots, may be
> able
> to accommodate a Game Wizard; however, these all-in-one models have
> exhibited noise problems in the past due to the proximity of the
> magnetic fields associated with the monitor and installed expansion
> cards, which are not exposed to these EMI threats in other
> configurations. This would have to be examined on a case-by-case
> basis.
> Q: Did get an exclusive deal with 3Dfx for Voodoo2 as Techworks did
> with
> Voodoo1 ? If yes, will you be the only company to have a Voodoo2 card
> for the Mac ? For how long ? What do you know of Techworks' plans ? A:
> I
> can't speak for TechWorks, but we are the only Company which has
> announced a Voodoo2 product for the Mac. I don't know of any other
> potential offering to the Mac community. I hope this is the case for a
>
> long, long time! Q: You seem to be developing the Mac drivers
> internally. Are you also working with Techworks and / or 3Dfx ?
> Please,
>
> explain. A: We are developing Mac drivers for the Voodoo2 internally.
> We
> have been developing Mac graphics & video drivers since 1986, longer
> than anyone else still alive; therefore, we are confident that our
> offering will be the best possible one available regardless of what
> may
>
> happen in the future. As it stands right now, we aren't aware of any
> other Mac driver development for this chipset. Q: Do you feel like
> 3Dfx
> plans to deliver Voodoo2 chips for Mac and PC cards manufacturers at
> the
> same time, or will Mac come second ? A: Our production quantity of
> chipset deliveries from 3Dfx coming later than deliveries to some PC
> card providers has more to do with normal business concerns than any
> distinction between Mac and PC. 3Dfx has not short-changed the Mac
> community; in fact, we are getting great support from 3Dfx! Our
> getting
>
> chips later is because we entered the arena later than some of the
> others and our volumes are significantly lower. In this industry, it
> is
>
> normal for this situation to result in later deliveries, particularly
> when related to a chipset as HOT as this one. The allocations of
> thischipset are a serious issue and can not be avoided. As it worked
> out, there was really no harm done because we haven't finished the Mac
>
> drivers anyway. Q: What price do you expect to sell Game Wizard when
> it
> ships around june Who will be your distributor in France ? A: In the
> US,
> the Game Wizard will sell for $299. We haven't established
> distribution
>
> in France yet and are anxious to find the right partner. In May we are
>
> opening an office in the UK to support our European channel
> development.
> Q: How woud you introduce Micro Conversions using a few sentences ? A:
>
> Micro Conversions, Inc. is a Mac-only developer providing award
> winning
> solutions since 1985. For more than 10 years, we only sold through
> OEMs.
> If you've been using a Mac for very long, chances are you've
> experienced
> some of our products. Micro Conversions now offers its products under
> its own name and is still as committed to the Mac and the Mac
> community
>
> as ever! Our newest product is the Game Wizard. Incorporating 3Dfx
> Voodoo2 technology, the Game Wizard offers PCI Mac users the
> opportunity
> to enjoy the best possible game performance available today at a price
>
> which is very reasonable, especially when considering the relative
> volumes between it and similar products on the PC side. Optimized for
> the Mac, the Game Wizard is a must-have for Mac gamers!

  
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Thx Zorro for this information... this is really exciting. <B>Q.</B> Is
this shipping yet? If not, is there an estimated ship date?

<P>Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

<P>Echo out!
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;

<P>Dan Champagne wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE>Voodoo 2 and Game Wizard FAQ Q: How much memory d=
oes
the Game Wizard have? A: The Game Wizard has a
<BR>total of 8MB of memory, 4MB for the frame buffer and 2 sets of 2MB
each

<P>for texture mapping. (Performing texture mapping in parallel [3
<BR>processors], along with its 192-bit memory architecture, accounts for
<BR>the significant increases in performance.) We will consider future
<BR>versions with 12MB or 16MB; however, at this time demand doesn't appe=
ar

<P>to warrant them. Q: Will games developed for the Voodoo chipset work
<BR>with Voodoo2? A: Yes. Q: Will the Game Wizard support higher
<BR>resolutions/bit-depths? A: Yes, resolutions up to 1024x768 @ 16-bit
will
<BR>be supported; however, this is entirely dependent upon the game itsel=
f

<P>being able to draw to the increased resolutions. Several games current=
ly
<BR>take advantage of these increased resolution and bit-depth capabiliti=
es.
<BR>Q: Will the Game Wizard be supported by PC emulators? A: Yes, we beli=
eve
<BR>this will happen and happen soon. (Sorry folks, no formal announcemen=
t

<P>yet!) Q: Does the Game Wizard support the 3Dfx Glide API? A: Yes. Q:
<BR>Does the Game Wizard support the 3Dfx MacGlide API? A: Yes. Q: Does
the
<BR>Game Wizard support QuickDraw 3DRAVE? A: Yes, in the same manner any
<BR>Voodoo card does; i.e., when a game draws to a Mac in 3D, even when
it

<P>takes advantage of Voodoo or Voodoo2 acceleration, it is drawing in
<BR>QuickDraw 3D. Now would be a good time to discuss exactly what the
Game

<P>Wizard, or any Voodoo/Voodoo2 card does and doesn't do. The only time
<BR>this chipset is active is when a game 'calls' it. These engines are
not

<P>used for any purpose other than 3D game acceleration. Even then, they
<BR>can only work when drawing 'full screen', i.e. not in a window. These
<BR>cards are installed between the graphics card, or built-in, and the
<BR>monitor through the use of a pass-thru cable. When not being 'called'
by
<BR>a game, they sit idle and the graphics display to the monitor passes
<BR>through untouched. They cannot affect, control or be integrated into
the
<BR>desktop because the desktop is defined before they even see it.
<BR>(However, they accelerate the hell out of it when its a full-screen
3D

<P>game!) Its because this card is designed only to be the best possible
3D
<BR>game accelerator you can buy, that it enjoys its reputation... it IS
the
<BR>best possible 3D game accelerator you can buy. (Neither this card nor
<BR>any other Voodoo2 card is designed to provide 3D in a window.) Q: Wha=
t
<BR>games are to be bundled with the Game Wizard? A: We don't know yet...
<BR>still working on it. Q: Where can the Game Wizard be purchased [when
its
<BR>available]? A: MacWarehouse, MacMall, MacZone and your local, friendl=
y
<BR>Apple dealer. Q: Will there be a combo Voodoo2 and graphics card for
the
<BR>Mac? A: Can't answer that yet. It certainly won't happen soon enough
to
<BR>warrant not buying a Game Wizard as soon as its available! Q: What
<BR>improvement can Mac users expect with Game Wizard, compared to the
<BR>Power3D ? A: The 192-bit memory architecture and parallel processing
<BR>feature of Voodoo2 provides 3 times the raw POWER over the Voodoo
<BR>chipset. [The Game Wizard utilizes three processors.] Because of this=
,

<P>any slow-downs users are experiencing when in higher resolutions or
<BR>texture depths/choices will be greatly reduced or even disappear
<BR>totally! More people will be able to enjoy these games at higher qual=
ity
<BR>levels. Additionally, now that the standard has been raised and more
<BR>power is made available, new games will surely push these benefits
for

<P>even greater game performances. Use of a Game Wizard will put the Mac
<BR>user in the best possible configuration for game playing. [Note - as
<BR>seen on the PC, a fast CPU may be required for best performance, as
<BR>slower CPUs will result in not much better performance than the Voodo=
o
1
<BR>chipset cards.-Mike] Q: Will game Wizard work on "all-in-one" Power
Mac
<BR>? If yes, how ? Or won't it, like the Power3D, unless once plugs in
an

<P>external monitor ? Please, explain. A: The Game Wizard will not work
<BR>with these [current] internal monitors. Because the all-in-one Macs
feed
<BR>the internal monitor directly, and in such a way that it would be ver=
y

<P>messy to intercept the display internally, the Game Wizard can't
<BR>position itself between the graphics source and the monitor. Since
these
<BR>models would require a graphics card to drive an external monitor,
any

<P>single PCI slot machine wouldn't have the option available even with
an

<P>external monitor. Any new model which would allow access between the
<BR>graphics source and the monitor, or have multiple PCI slots, may be
able
<BR>to accommodate a Game Wizard; however, these all-in-one models have
<BR>exhibited noise problems in the past due to the proximity of the
<BR>magnetic fields associated with the monitor and installed expansion
<BR>cards, which are not exposed to these EMI threats in other
<BR>configurations. This would have to be examined on a case-by-case basi=
s.
<BR>Q: Did get an exclusive deal with 3Dfx for Voodoo2 as Techworks did
with
<BR>Voodoo1 ? If yes, will you be the only company to have a Voodoo2 card
<BR>for the Mac ? For how long ? What do you know of Techworks' plans ?
A: I
<BR>can't speak for TechWorks, but we are the only Company which has
<BR>announced a Voodoo2 product for the Mac. I don't know of any other
<BR>potential offering to the Mac community. I hope this is the case for
a

<P>long, long time! Q: You seem to be developing the Mac drivers
<BR>internally. Are you also working with Techworks and / or 3Dfx ? Pleas=
e,

<P>explain. A: We are developing Mac drivers for the Voodoo2 internally.
We
<BR>have been developing Mac graphics &amp; video drivers since 1986, lon=
ger
<BR>than anyone else still alive; therefore, we are confident that our
<BR>offering will be the best possible one available regardless of what
may

<P>happen in the future. As it stands right now, we aren't aware of any
<BR>other Mac driver development for this chipset. Q: Do you feel like
3Dfx
<BR>plans to deliver Voodoo2 chips for Mac and PC cards manufacturers at
the
<BR>same time, or will Mac come second ? A: Our production quantity of
<BR>chipset deliveries from 3Dfx coming later than deliveries to some PC
<BR>card providers has more to do with normal business concerns than any
<BR>distinction between Mac and PC. 3Dfx has not short-changed the Mac
<BR>community; in fact, we are getting great support from 3Dfx! Our getti=
ng

<P>chips later is because we entered the arena later than some of the
<BR>others and our volumes are significantly lower. In this industry, it
is

<P>normal for this situation to result in later deliveries, particularly
<BR>when related to a chipset as HOT as this one. The allocations of
<BR>thischipset are a serious issue and can not be avoided. As it worked
<BR>out, there was really no harm done because we haven't finished the
Mac

<P>drivers anyway. Q: What price do you expect to sell Game Wizard when
it
<BR>ships around june Who will be your distributor in France ? A: In the
US,
<BR>the Game Wizard will sell for $299. We haven't established distributi=
on

<P>in France yet and are anxious to find the right partner. In May we are

<P>opening an office in the UK to support our European channel developmen=
t.
<BR>Q: How woud you introduce Micro Conversions using a few sentences ?
A:
<BR>Micro Conversions, Inc. is a Mac-only developer providing award winni=
ng
<BR>solutions since 1985. For more than 10 years, we only sold through
OEMs.
<BR>If you've been using a Mac for very long, chances are you've experien=
ced
<BR>some of our products. Micro Conversions now offers its products under
<BR>its own name and is still as committed to the Mac and the Mac communi=
ty

<P>as ever! Our newest product is the Game Wizard. Incorporating 3Dfx
<BR>Voodoo2 technology, the Game Wizard offers PCI Mac users the opportun=
ity
<BR>to enjoy the best possible game performance available today at a pric=
e

<P>which is very reasonable, especially when considering the relative
<BR>volumes between it and similar products on the PC side. Optimized for
<BR>the Mac, the Game Wizard is a must-have for Mac gamers!</BLOCKQUOTE>
=A0=A0
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<BR>Captain, VFMA-323rd Cougars
<BR><A HREF=3D"http://www.tstonramp.com/~kahuna/index2.html">http://www.t=
stonramp.com/~kahuna/index2.html</A>
<BR>Aguilar Family Home Page
<BR><A HREF=3D"http://www.teleport.com/~eeagle/AguilarFamHome.html">http:=
//www.teleport.com/~eeagle/AguilarFamHome.html</A>
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From: Elton Aguilar <eeagle@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: (cww) FAQ for new 3d fx
Date: 02 May 1998 18:47:12 +0000


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Thx Zorro for this information... this is really exciting. Q. Is this
shipping yet? If not, is there an estimated ship date?

Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

Echo out!
 
 
 

Dan Champagne wrote:

> Voodoo 2 and Game Wizard FAQ Q: How much memory does the Game Wizard
> have? A: The Game Wizard has a
> total of 8MB of memory, 4MB for the frame buffer and 2 sets of 2MB
> each
>
> blah blah blah

  
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Captain, VFMA-323rd Cougars
http://www.tstonramp.com/~kahuna/index2.html
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Thx Zorro for this information... this is really exciting. <B>Q.</B> Is
this shipping yet? If not, is there an estimated ship date?

<P>Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

<P>Echo out!
<BR>=A0
<BR>=A0
<BR>=A0

<P>Dan Champagne wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE>Voodoo 2 and Game Wizard FAQ Q: How much memory d=
oes
the Game Wizard have? A: The Game Wizard has a
<BR>total of 8MB of memory, 4MB for the frame buffer and 2 sets of 2MB
each

<P>blah blah blah</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>Elton Aguilar=A0=A0 eeagle@teleport.com
<BR>Captain, VFMA-323rd Cougars
<BR><A HREF=3D"http://www.tstonramp.com/~kahuna/index2.html">http://www.t=
stonramp.com/~kahuna/index2.html</A>
<BR>Aguilar Family Home Page
<BR><A HREF=3D"http://www.teleport.com/~eeagle/AguilarFamHome.html">http:=
//www.teleport.com/~eeagle/AguilarFamHome.html</A>
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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) SF Ladder
Date: 03 May 1998 20:43:10 -0700

Hi,

Of late I have been pushing the WB H2H ladder as to pump it up to the point
it can be self sustaining. It seems to have reached that point and will
just require maintaince. Now that I have done that, I want to go back and
overhaul the other ladders before starting a new expansion wave of ladders.

To that end, the Skyfighters ladder has been completely refurbished the so
it is easier to read and nicer to look at. I am also going to start pushing
the use of the SF ladder again. And the channel for it, #skyfighters on
irc.sandnet.org - there is now specific mention of the channel on the main
SF ladder page. I am also going to start including a link from each ladder
page to the ROE. And the Wallies have been fully integrated for you Wallie
fans :)

So if you are looking for a Mac flight sim that uses TCP/IP, allows solid
2v2 (or any combination thereof) play and uses WWII aircraft, then
Skyfighters is for you

Dale

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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Fwd: Demo of new Flight Sim from Bullseye Software
Date: 04 May 1998 10:27:43 -0700

>Subject: Demo of new Flight Sim from Bullseye Software
>Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:09:37 -0400
>x-sender: website@nauticom.net
>From: "Hiram C. Wilson" <hiram@nauticom.net>
>To: "Dale" <cdb@inficad.com>
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>
>Hello Dale,
>
>It was nice seeing you last night.  Here's a press release for Bullseye
>Software's Flying Circus.
>
>In addition, Bullseye is having a sale on their Helicopter sim, Cobra
>Strike.  While supplies last, Cobra Strike is $9.95.
>
>Have a great day.
>
>Hiram
>
>=========================
>
>May 4, 1998
>
>BIG, BEAUTIFUL, BRIGHT AND BRILLIANT
>
>        To call Donald A. Hill Jr.'s latest creation, Bullseye Software's
>Flying Circus, "new and big"  would be the understatement of the year.
>
>        Considering the fact that Bullseye Software's Flying Circus is
>not yet available other than in a demo form does not demean the word
>"new" because so many new, really new, features are being offered in this
>flight sim.  The "RAVE" based 3D graphics engine creates the most
>"beautiful" World War I aircraft imaginable, a "big" textured world that
>compares favorably with the latest professional flight simulators, the
>"bright" new flight routines which exceed any, any flight sim currently
>available on the Macintosh.
>
>        Add all the other features of Bullseye Software's Flying Circus
>and you have one of most "brilliant" flight sims available today.
>Features such as six aircraft flying at once, ground targets, bombing,
>observation balloons to bust, a bridge to destroy, flak to avoid, plus
>one of the most novel, enjoyable features possible ... pilots.  Yes,
>pilots which turn their heads to watch the closest enemy. Now these
>gentlemen may not be the most handsome of those of the period, but you
>will enjoy watching them watch you.
>
>        Bullseye Software's Flying Circus is an all-in-one product with
>internet support PLUS computer generated enemies.
>
>        A planned "early bird special" on this new product will be
>offered around the middle of May to a limited number of flight sim
>enthusiasts, watch for announcement on the web site.
>
>        Bullseye Software's Flying Circus is Mr. Hill's sixth flight sim
>for the Macintosh since 1985. One of his most popular, "P51 Mustang
>Flight Simulator", first released in 1988, was included in a hands-on
>demonstration at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum for many months.
>He has two other current flight sims, WWII SkyFighters and Cobra Strike,
>both of which remain popular and are available direct from Bullseye
>Software.
>
>        A free demo is available on Bullseye Software's web site:
>
>http://www.nauticom.net/www/website/bullseye/
>





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From: David Christoffersen <davidchr@psych.purdue.edu>
Subject: Re: (cww) Fwd: Demo of new Flight Sim from Bullseye Software
Date: 04 May 1998 15:18:26 -0500

For those like me that didn't have DrawSprockets.  You
can go and Download the 12 meg development kit from Apple, with
a lot of crap you don't need, or you can  download
just the drawsprockets libs from
http://omni.cc.purdue.edu/~davidchr/draw.html

or.....
on EFnet #Hornet  type  !drawsprockets on the channel, and
Grimreapr will dcc send the file to you.


David Christoffersen
"Mental"




>>Subject: Demo of new Flight Sim from Bullseye Software
>>Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:09:37 -0400
>>x-sender: website@nauticom.net
>>From: "Hiram C. Wilson" <hiram@nauticom.net>
>>To: "Dale" <cdb@inficad.com>
>>Mime-Version: 1.0
>>
>>Hello Dale,
>>
>>It was nice seeing you last night.  Here's a press release for Bullseye
>>Software's Flying Circus.
>>
>>In addition, Bullseye is having a sale on their Helicopter sim, Cobra
>>Strike.  While supplies last, Cobra Strike is $9.95.
>>
>>Have a great day.
>>
>>Hiram
>>
>>=========================
>>
>>May 4, 1998
>>
>>BIG, BEAUTIFUL, BRIGHT AND BRILLIANT
>>
>>        To call Donald A. Hill Jr.'s latest creation, Bullseye Software's
>>Flying Circus, "new and big"  would be the understatement of the year.
>>
>>        Considering the fact that Bullseye Software's Flying Circus is
>>not yet available other than in a demo form does not demean the word
>>"new" because so many new, really new, features are being offered in this
>>flight sim.  The "RAVE" based 3D graphics engine creates the most
>>"beautiful" World War I aircraft imaginable, a "big" textured world that
>>compares favorably with the latest professional flight simulators, the
>>"bright" new flight routines which exceed any, any flight sim currently
>>available on the Macintosh.
>>
>>        Add all the other features of Bullseye Software's Flying Circus
>>and you have one of most "brilliant" flight sims available today.
>>Features such as six aircraft flying at once, ground targets, bombing,
>>observation balloons to bust, a bridge to destroy, flak to avoid, plus
>>one of the most novel, enjoyable features possible ... pilots.  Yes,
>>pilots which turn their heads to watch the closest enemy. Now these
>>gentlemen may not be the most handsome of those of the period, but you
>>will enjoy watching them watch you.
>>
>>        Bullseye Software's Flying Circus is an all-in-one product with
>>internet support PLUS computer generated enemies.
>>
>>        A planned "early bird special" on this new product will be
>>offered around the middle of May to a limited number of flight sim
>>enthusiasts, watch for announcement on the web site.
>>
>>        Bullseye Software's Flying Circus is Mr. Hill's sixth flight sim
>>for the Macintosh since 1985. One of his most popular, "P51 Mustang
>>Flight Simulator", first released in 1988, was included in a hands-on
>>demonstration at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum for many months.
>>He has two other current flight sims, WWII SkyFighters and Cobra Strike,
>>both of which remain popular and are available direct from Bullseye
>>Software.
>>
>>        A free demo is available on Bullseye Software's web site:
>>
>>http://www.nauticom.net/www/website/bullseye/
>>






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From: Dale Bottrell <cdb@user1.inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) IMol Hiring
Date: 04 May 1998 18:36:55 -0700 (MST)

The following is taken from the game zine "Mac Gamer's Ledge"....

iMagic Online is looking for a Mac game developer
If you live in the Dallas, TX area and you're looking for a position
developing Mac games, bear in mind that military sim
developer iMagic Online is looking for talent. The following posting
recently appear on the EvangeList mailing list:

Job: Macintosh Developer
Industry: Gaming
Location: Dallas, TX
Company: iMagic Online, Inc.
Opening: Immediate

iMagic Online, developer of WarBirds(tm), is looking to add a full-time
Macintosh programmer immediately. Warbirds is the most advanced online
World-War II flight simulator on the market and offers both Macintosh and
PC versions.

The position involves the ongoing, fast-paced development of WarBirds and
possibly new projects.

The successful candidate will have experience in C, C++ and have
experience in porting PC code. Experience programming 3D applications and
OpenTransport networking is necessary. Experience programming
hardware-accelerated API's such as Glide or OpenGL is highly desired. 

Interested candidates should email Joe Mannes at <jmannes@imagicgames.com>
or phone him at 817-424-5638. 




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From: Dale Bottrell <cdb@user1.inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Which is better?
Date: 05 May 1998 18:25:43 -0700 (MST)

I have noticed that there seems to be two different types of message
boards out there. 

One is what is used for EF2000
http://195.92.21.15/cgi-bin/pchat.pl?action=display

and the other is represented by what GSC uses
http://www.graphsim.com/BBS/

I'd to get opinions of which is better and why

Dale




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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Military site
Date: 05 May 1998 22:48:19 -0700

For those of you looking for an interesting variety of military
materila to spice up your pages or whatever, check out
http://www.militarycity.com/cgi-update/biglib.pl?lib=militarycity


It has the following categories:


Graphics - Clip Art, Paintings, Silhouettes, Unit Patches

Images - Aircraft and Helicopters


Images - Armor & Artillery, Bases & Places, Historical Subjects,
Military Vehicles, People, Space, Weapons


Images - Ships of the U.S. Navy, U.S. Coast Guard, and Foreign Navies


 Sound & Video


 Software


 Text & Reference



Plus a variety of interesting links other then these. It has become my
favorite for aircraft images


Dale
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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Disinfectant Retired
Date: 06 May 1998 22:53:26 -0700

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Northwestern University

I regret to announce that I am officially retiring Disinfectant, our free
anti-viral utility for the Macintosh. The current version 3.7.1 is the last
version. Disinfectant will not be updated for the new Autostart 9805 worm
or for any future viruses, worms, or other Macintosh malware.

I made this decision not because of the new Autostart 9805 worm, but
rather because of the widespread and dangerous Microsoft macro virus
problem. I believe that there are now well over 1000 of these viruses, and
many new ones are discovered every month. They are now a much more serious
problem for Mac users than are the classic Mac system viruses. I simply do
no have the resources to combat a problem which is this huge in scope and
complexity.

I am aware that some Mac users do not use Microsoft Word 6 or Excel 5 or
later versions, and hence have still found Disinfectant useful. These
people seem to be a minority, however. The majority of Mac users need a
commercial anti-viral product. Disinfectant is not adequate protection, and
hasn't been for several years. For this reason, I feel that there is little
point in updating the program for the new worm. Doing so would, in fact,
only provide a false sense of security, and result in more harm than good.

The following commercial anti-viral utilities are currently available for
the Macintosh. All Disinfectant users should switch to one of these
products.

   Anti-Virus Toolkit. Dr. Solomon's.
   SAM. Symantec.
   Virex. Dr. Solomon's.
   VirusScan for the Mac. Network Associates.

I began working on the Mac virus problem and Disinfectant ten years ago, in
the Spring of 1988, when the first Mac viruses began to appear.
Disinfectant 1.0 was released to the public on March 18, 1989. I have been
enormously gratified by the success of the program and its very kind
reception by the Macintosh community. I'd like to take this opportunity to
thank my many users for their support and encouragement over all these
years. I'd also like to express my appreciation to the other members of the
Mac anti-viral research community for their outstanding spirit of
cooperation and public service which has made all of our products possible.

Nine years is a long run for any kind of computer software. It's time to
move on.

--
John Norstad                   <mailto:j-norstad@nwu.edu>
Academic Technologies          <http://charlotte.at.nwu.edu/jln/>
Northwestern University        <ftp://ftp.nwu.edu/>





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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Ladder update
Date: 06 May 1998 23:46:55 -0700

Recently I have been refurbishing ladders. The H3 and SF ones are done, H2
and WB are next. In addition, I have added sq links that were missing from
these pages. Papa had requested and update of the Panthers link and when
accomadating him, I found a lot of links missing....especially on the H3
ladder..

If your sq doesn't have have it's name linked to a sq member's nick on a
ladder, let me know and I will add it.

I will want to know:

what ladder
what squadron
the sq URL
any organization you're affiliated with (CMAW, NCSC, and so on)

If you're not affiliated and want to be, 1st Group of CMAW is looking for
sq's to add

If you're not affiliated and want to stay that way, the CWW will welcome
your sq as a member

You can either drop me a line or find me on Dalnet #macflightsims most any
night after 9pm PST

Dale

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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Ladder inactive period
Date: 07 May 1998 03:23:31 -0700

Initially, when the ladders were set up, HotBlack convinced me to go with a
longer challenge response period. And a longer period before someone was
automatically removed from the ladder. These were 2 and 6 months
respectively.

The only discussion was between HB and myself. The reason for the extended
periods were the longer vacation periods that Europeans get. No one wanted
them to suffer just because they are lucky enough to get generally more
vacation time then Americans and to lose their place on the ladder. At the
time, this applied solely to the H2 ladder. But it was generally adopted
for the other ladders.

Initially, HB was creating the ladders from the ground up. But as he got
closer to getting doctorate, his time grew less and I took over creating
them. And until now I had left the inactive period alone but been cutting
down on the challenge response time. Out of respect for HB, the Hornet
ladders challenge response time was left at 2 months. But with the
refurbishing of the Mac H3 ladder, the inactive period was cut to 4 months.
It wasn't suppose to effect any of the current standings, just take effect
from now on.

But with the Skyfighters ladder, the challenge period was cut to 14 days.
And the new ladders have a 7 day (Warbirds and others) challenge period.
This was done because movement on the Hornet ladders was so slow. Nobody
did anything for months at a time. This is going to change.

The established ladders have become quite static. That can not remain the
case. Changes will be made, but you can influence the extent of them. And
the current time periods will not be increased.

For the time being, I have restored the 6 month inactive period to the Mac
H3 ladder. I propose to change the inactive period to at least 4 months for
all ladders and make the challenge period 1 month for the Hornet ladders.
If not less. This subject is open for discussion. And since it was concern
for Europeans that set the standards in the first place, their opinion will
carry more weight.

Dale


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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) MFS back in business
Date: 07 May 1998 23:22:38 -0700

Hi,

You may remember the Mac Flight Site that Tom Morrison set up and
maintained for a number of years. For about the last year it has been
lanquishing because Tom graduated from his Doctorate program, got a real
job, got married and had a daughter.

Recently I asked Tom about the site. And now Tom has granted me
administrative power to the site. And I want to restore it to it's previous
prominance. And although I will be the adminis- trator, as far as I am
concerned, it is still Tom's site. Tom has done a lot for the flight sim
community and I don't want anyone to ever forget that.

I am looking for any material that needs added to the site since about 18
to 24 months ago. I am looking for any other older material that might have
been missed. I am looking for both individual and commercial software and
files that would be of interest to the flight sim user. And to accomadate
those flight sim makers that make dual or cross platform flight sims, I
will add a PC section within that companies directory

You can find the site at ftp://shelby.ucr.edu/pub/MFS . And you can
directly upload by going to the incoming directory and using that for any
files you may want to contribute

And for those of you on other flight sim mailing lists, I would appreciate
this being forwarded

Dale

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From: Dan Champagne <dan@navnet.net>
Subject: (cww) Excellent idea Dale
Date: 08 May 1998 08:39:33 -0300

Glad to hear that Tom's cite will be on the go Dale. I use to visit it all
the time, and get the latest flight sim news. Got a ulr for a 3d info and
other stuff. I don't know if this will be of use, though I find the Mac 3d
info intresting, the ULR is http://www.tikkabik.com/3d/index.html   Zorro
out.





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From: Stephen Fox <foxy@who.net>
Subject: (cww) Promoting Flightsims...
Date: 09 May 1998 16:58:49 +1000

G'Day to one and all,

I would like to know what the rest of the Cyber Pilot community thinks about the below excerpt from an email correspondence that I had with Dale recently...

START * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
(this question was in regards to the new Ladder Pages and the lack of even the slightest mention of EFNet)
>1. There is no mention of the EFNet #hornet channel. There is only
>referral to the DALNet channels #hornet & #macflightsims. EFNet is still
>predominately used by most ppl, and I believe that it should rate a mention.
>
There won't be any. Reasonably, do you expect me to support a channel I am
banned from?
END * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

What I would like to know is if other people think that this is fair on new people trying to find somewhere to hang out and organise flights with other like minded people? 

I do not think this is fair to deliberately limit the available mediums of communication to new people trying to participate in something we are ALL involved in.

As a proportional amount people hang out on the EFNet #hornet channel this does not seem fair to me, and seems to be some sort of monopoly on the flightsim community from this higher rank of the CWW. 

It's like we are being held at ransom.

Dale I do not expect you to support something that u have been banned from, but as part of  your responsibilty to CWW, shouldn't you put that aside for the benefit of ALL Cyber Pilots, new and old? 

Thanx
Stephen Fox
FoxOne
mailto:foxy@who.net

My opinions are mine, and do not reflect the feelings of anyone I am affiliated with.






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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Ladders
Date: 09 May 1998 00:59:19 -0700

At 7:01 PM +1000 5/8/98, Stephen Fox wrote:
>1. There is no mention of the EFNet #hornet channel. There is only
>referral to the DALNet channels #hornet & #macflightsims. EFNet is still
>predominately by most ppl, and I believe that it should rate a mention.
>

My reply:
There won't be any. Reasonably, do you expect me to support a channel I am
banned from?

***********

From here on out, the ladders are not going to mention EFNet #hornet. I may
be strange, but I am not stupid and I am ceratinly not going to turn the
other cheek by agreeing to help that don't want me around. The ladders will
support channels there are associated with except for this one exception.

#hornet is well known and established, #macflightsims isn't. On the
internet, if you don't know about it, it doesn't exist. And if you don't
advertise, it will die.

But I will not interfere with anyone promoting EFNet #hornet on any medium
I have developed whether it be this mailing list or some other forum as
long as the rules that I have promulated are followed....common sense and
courtesy. I believe in competition and EFNet #hornet now has some that is
getting more serious all the time. I also believe in people having
alternatives and a place to go when they choose to vote with their feet.

By providing competition it forces people on #hornet to work harder to get
people and keep people. It forces people to treat one another with a
certain amount of dignity. EFNet #hornet has been a monoploy for a long
time....it isn't anymore. "Power corrupts and total power corrupts
totally".  I don't know how many of you have been abused at one time or
another on EFNet #hornet, but if you have, you know what I'm talking about.
With the competition between channels now, EFNet #hornet will either change
it's ways or loose people. Either way I win.

There are some things here I want known. I started CMAG, CMAW, and CWW. I
started the CWW list. The site that the ladders sit on is mine. I arranged
for the site so that the ladders could be used, updated and bugs readily
fixed. I didn't write the coding for the ladders, Thon "HotBlack" deBoer
did that. And I named the logon for the site for him and to be sure he got
the credit he deserved for the ladders.

In all this the underlying goal was to bring people together. But I will
not let someone take advantage of my ethics to undo everything I have done.
Nor will I let them use them to persuade me to go quietly into the night.

It's been a fight all the way. And I relish competition.

As for Fox's post....

>As a proportional amount people hang out on the EFNet #hornet channel this
>does not seem fair >to me, and seems to be some sort of monopoly on the
>flightsim community from this higher >rank of the CWW.
>

Neither God nor a priest ever mentions the word fair or that is has been
promised. It's not the channel that matters, it's the people. The only
monoply here is the one you are supporting. I only work with right and wrong

>
>It's like we are being held at ransom.
>

No one is being held ransom, they are free to do as they will. I am not
cutting off access to anyone to anything I HAVE developed. Just using it to
advertise.

>
>Dale I do not expect you to support something that u have been banned
>from, but as part of  >your responsibilty to CWW, shouldn't you put that
>aside for the benefit of ALL Cyber Pilots, >new and old?

The responsibility I have is the one I developed from the ground up. To the
people, not to institutions. And I will continue as I have because it will
get the average user better treatment and greater respect. I am working
now, as I have always been, for the benefit of all cyber pilots.

I will not help support EFNet #hornet as it currently stands. If that
changes, I will. In part, what is now #hornet resulted from my efforts to
clean it up and make it a place everyone could meet. I promoted the hell
out of it too. If it wasn't for those efforts, #hornet would be a few
people controlling the channel and having everyone else dance to their
tune. When I first started on #hornet, there was never more then 10 people
and it wasn't a 24 hour channel

In conclusion, the ladders will continue as they are....open to anyone. But
they will mention only DalNet #macflightsims. To put it in an American
vernacular, I am not taking my ball and going home. But the 2nd half of the
game ain't going to be like the first

Dale





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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Ladder time periods
Date: 09 May 1998 01:08:19 -0700

Hi,

Aside from being one objection, I have not recieved or otherwise seen
posted any objections to revised the challenge and inactivity periods for
the CWW ladders.

Starting with as soon as I can finish refurbishing a ladder, the following
time periods will be used:

	All ladders will have the inactive period inbetween matches set to
4 months

This will also be in effect for any new ladders

The following ladders will have the following response time before a match
is in default:

Warbirds: 7 days
Skyfighters: 14 days
All Hornet ladders: 30 days

All new ladders will be either 7 or 14 days.

I am still interested in whatever comments anyone has. Especially people
that don't live in the US


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From: "Ryan Stanley" <rstanley@alaska.net>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladders
Date: 09 Apr 1998 01:53:37 +0000

FoxOne i think has a good point -- maybe Dale should put a reference to
#hornet on the website with a disclaimer: "this channel is known for abusive
behavior" or something like that. <g>

but in reality, Dale is right -- and not just because he knows all the
passwords :-)

he's the head-honcho... the supreme cheese... the top dick... 
He built this mighty structure and there is no reason he should support a
competing structure which abuses and bans him from their presence. If the
people on #hornet want to be abusive and demeaning, and not take flying
flight-sims online seriously (or for *whatever* reason they seem to have
personally wronged Dale)..... then, well.. fuck 'em!! right? Why pay them
the respect of advertising for them? Why send new pilots to a place they
would get abused?

-
shale

----------
>From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
>To: cww@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: (cww) Ladders
>Date: Sat, May 9, 1998, 7:59 AM
>

>At 7:01 PM +1000 5/8/98, Stephen Fox wrote:
>>1. There is no mention of the EFNet #hornet channel. There is only
>>referral to the DALNet channels #hornet & #macflightsims. EFNet is still
>>predominately by most ppl, and I believe that it should rate a mention.
>>
>
>My reply:
>There won't be any. Reasonably, do you expect me to support a channel I am
>banned from?
>
>***********
>
>>From here on out, the ladders are not going to mention EFNet #hornet. I
may
>be strange, but I am not stupid and I am ceratinly not going to turn the
>other cheek by agreeing to help that don't want me around. The ladders will
>support channels there are associated with except for this one exception.
>
>#hornet is well known and established, #macflightsims isn't. On the
>internet, if you don't know about it, it doesn't exist. And if you don't
>advertise, it will die.
>
>But I will not interfere with anyone promoting EFNet #hornet on any medium
>I have developed whether it be this mailing list or some other forum as
>long as the rules that I have promulated are followed....common sense and
>courtesy. I believe in competition and EFNet #hornet now has some that is
>getting more serious all the time. I also believe in people having
>alternatives and a place to go when they choose to vote with their feet.
>
>By providing competition it forces people on #hornet to work harder to get
>people and keep people. It forces people to treat one another with a
>certain amount of dignity. EFNet #hornet has been a monoploy for a long
>time....it isn't anymore. "Power corrupts and total power corrupts
>totally".  I don't know how many of you have been abused at one time or
>another on EFNet #hornet, but if you have, you know what I'm talking about.
>With the competition between channels now, EFNet #hornet will either change
>it's ways or loose people. Either way I win.
>
>There are some things here I want known. I started CMAG, CMAW, and CWW. I
>started the CWW list. The site that the ladders sit on is mine. I arranged
>for the site so that the ladders could be used, updated and bugs readily
>fixed. I didn't write the coding for the ladders, Thon "HotBlack" deBoer
>did that. And I named the logon for the site for him and to be sure he got
>the credit he deserved for the ladders.
>
>In all this the underlying goal was to bring people together. But I will
>not let someone take advantage of my ethics to undo everything I have done.
>Nor will I let them use them to persuade me to go quietly into the night.
>
>It's been a fight all the way. And I relish competition.
>
>As for Fox's post....
>
>>As a proportional amount people hang out on the EFNet #hornet channel this
>>does not seem fair >to me, and seems to be some sort of monopoly on the
>>flightsim community from this higher >rank of the CWW.
>>
>
>Neither God nor a priest ever mentions the word fair or that is has been
>promised. It's not the channel that matters, it's the people. The only
>monoply here is the one you are supporting. I only work with right and
wrong
>
>>
>>It's like we are being held at ransom.
>>
>
>No one is being held ransom, they are free to do as they will. I am not
>cutting off access to anyone to anything I HAVE developed. Just using it to
>advertise.
>
>>
>>Dale I do not expect you to support something that u have been banned
>>from, but as part of  >your responsibilty to CWW, shouldn't you put that
>>aside for the benefit of ALL Cyber Pilots, >new and old?
>
>The responsibility I have is the one I developed from the ground up. To the
>people, not to institutions. And I will continue as I have because it will
>get the average user better treatment and greater respect. I am working
>now, as I have always been, for the benefit of all cyber pilots.
>
>I will not help support EFNet #hornet as it currently stands. If that
>changes, I will. In part, what is now #hornet resulted from my efforts to
>clean it up and make it a place everyone could meet. I promoted the hell
>out of it too. If it wasn't for those efforts, #hornet would be a few
>people controlling the channel and having everyone else dance to their
>tune. When I first started on #hornet, there was never more then 10 people
>and it wasn't a 24 hour channel
>
>In conclusion, the ladders will continue as they are....open to anyone. But
>they will mention only DalNet #macflightsims. To put it in an American
>vernacular, I am not taking my ball and going home. But the 2nd half of the
>game ain't going to be like the first
>
>Dale
>
>
>
>
>
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cdb-
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>





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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Fwd: Warbirds
Date: 09 May 1998 11:41:13 -0700

>From: "Mike Stanton" <mstanton@centuryinter.net>
>To: <cdb@inficad.com>
>Subject: Warbirds
>Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 12:41:37 -0500
>X-Priority: 3
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>Hi, I am Yasso and I am looking for opponents...
>
>ICQ # 1200558
>





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From: David Christoffersen <davidchr@psych.purdue.edu>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladders
Date: 09 May 1998 14:41:43 -0500

>FoxOne i think has a good point -- maybe Dale should put a reference to
>#hornet on the website with a disclaimer: "this channel is known for abusive
>behavior" or something like that. <g>
>
>but in reality, Dale is right -- and not just because he knows all the
>passwords :-)
>
>he's the head-honcho... the supreme cheese... the top dick...
>He built this mighty structure and there is no reason he should support a
>competing structure which abuses and bans him from their presence. If the
>people on #hornet want to be abusive and demeaning, and not take flying
>flight-sims online seriously (or for *whatever* reason they seem to have
>personally wronged Dale)..... then, well.. fuck 'em!! right? Why pay them
>the respect of advertising for them? Why send new pilots to a place they
>would get abused?
>
>-
>shale
>
>>

Just a few points from my perspective.  I acknowledge that Dale
started the CMAW, the CMAG, and the CWW, but an organization is
nothing without members.  There are a lot of members, and they
do have a voice.  I also saw an email a few weeks ago that
Dale wrote saying that he was stepping down, and someone
was taking his place.  So which is it?  Next, if the CWW is
designed to meet Dale's agenda, and his alone, he's free to
mention any channels that he wishes, but if the CWW is a group that
is composed of many members, and dale is there to promote
the interests of those members, he should make some
reference to EFnet #Hornet on the web pages.

Now, all the emails so far make Dale out to be this poor soul
who was preyed upon by the members of EFnet #hornet.  Before you
rush to judgement that Dale was so clean, stop by, or send me
some email, and I'll be happy to share my side of this little
story.  I won't spread that info here, because this is not the
place for that, but I will say, Dale is in no way an innocent
bystander who was abused.


David Christoffersen
"Mental"
Botmaster on #Hornet (one of 4) Ace, Nutcase, Harp, and myself.



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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladders
Date: 09 May 1998 13:12:57 -0700

At 2:41 PM -0500 5/9/98, David Christoffersen wrote:
>Just a few points from my perspective.  I acknowledge that Dale
>started the CMAW, the CMAG, and the CWW, but an organization is
>nothing without members.  There are a lot of members, and they
>do have a voice.  I also saw an email a few weeks ago that
>Dale wrote saying that he was stepping down, and someone
>was taking his place.  So which is it?  Next, if the CWW is
>designed to meet Dale's agenda, and his alone, he's free to
>mention any channels that he wishes, but if the CWW is a group that
>is composed of many members, and dale is there to promote
>the interests of those members, he should make some
>reference to EFnet #Hornet on the web pages.
>

1) In the past, you have credited only Tom Morrison with starting CMAW.
Which is it?

2) You will need to reread that notice that mentions stepping down so you
know what from where. Accuracy is necessary

>
>Now, all the emails so far make Dale out to be this poor soul
>who was preyed upon by the members of EFnet #hornet.  Before you
>rush to judgement that Dale was so clean, stop by, or send me
>some email, and I'll be happy to share my side of this little
>story.  I won't spread that info here, because this is not the
>place for that, but I will say, Dale is in no way an innocent
>bystander who was abused.
>

Yep, drop by and ask David. As I have said in the past, I am no innocent.
One of the people I have pissed off is David. I did what he says I did and
I will take my lumps for it and that's all there is to it



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From: <modonne@midcoast.com.au>
Subject: (cww) Ladder time limits
Date: 10 May 1998 08:52:34 +1000


Dale,

Concerning times, I think you should remember that some of us are not 
just in another country, but also at school!

I think making the Hornet ladders less that 14 days would make it too 
hard to answer to a challenge in the time limit. 30 days is fine, 2 
months is too long. The Hornet ladders should stay at 30 days just so us 
foreigners can keep to challenges. 

Gecko
Commanding Officer
98th Squadron Shurikens



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From: <modonne@midcoast.com.au>
Subject:  (cww) Friction
Date: 10 May 1998 08:52:31 +1000

OK you lot, cool it.

I might be out of place here, but from all the emails I have been getting 
over this ladders thing is starting to worry me. 

Why don't you all just shut up and listen to the DCO? If you are a member 
of the CMAW, Dale is your Deputy Commanding Officer and what he says 
should go, unless there is something really wrong. This ladders thing is 
not worth arguing over, and from the content of the emails it looks like 
there is a whole bunch of you on #hornet's side and the rest on 
#Macflightsims side. 

Don't let this turn into a major war and end up destroying what is a good 
system and has worked for a long time.
If you can't take it go join SNAG or some other air group.

Gecko
Commanding Officer
98th Squadron Shurikens



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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladder time limits
Date: 09 May 1998 16:36:43 -0700

At 8:52 AM +1000 5/10/98, <modonne@midcoast.com.au> wrote:
>Dale,
>
>Concerning times, I think you should remember that some of us are not
>just in another country, but also at school!
>
>I think making the Hornet ladders less that 14 days would make it too
>hard to answer to a challenge in the time limit. 30 days is fine, 2
>months is too long. The Hornet ladders should stay at 30 days just so us
>foreigners can keep to challenges.
>
>Gecko
>Commanding Officer
>98th Squadron Shurikens

I think that 30 days is reasonable for the time being for the Hornet
ladders. Since the other ladders (SF and WB) are using different settings,
it will provide a baseline to work out what is best.

I was beginning to feel that a minimum of 7 days was too little anyway. We
can revisit the issue in September.

Dale


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From: Justin Madden <jmadden@mail.usyd.edu.au>
Subject: (cww) cww -Redbacks 
Date: 10 May 1998 14:06:58 +1100



The Australian Hornet Squadron, the TFG 75SQN "Redbacks" would like to 
officially welcome  the following new members:


FLYING OFFCIER Snowman
FLYING OFFCIER Hardskul
FLYING OFFCIER Nimitw


For anybody else interested in joining our squad please go to:
http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~jmadden/redbacks/home.html
and fill out the application form.


The Redbacks Squadron now consists of:

CO                     Group Captain       Zippo       
jmadden@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
2IC                    Wing Commander      StratoPig   acarr@rubix.com.au
Info/Tactical Officer  Flight Lieutenant   FoxOne      foxy@who.net
Pilot                  Flying Officer      PBravo
Pilot                  Flying Officer      Snowman
Pilot                  Flying Officer      Hardskul
Pilot                  Flying Officer      Nimitw  

Cheers Zippo
Commanding Officer TFG75 Sqn Redbacks
1st CMAW



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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Ladder changes
Date: 09 May 1998 22:11:36 -0700

The Mac Hornet ladders now list all the same squadrons. Both are set to
challenges defaulting after 30 days and inactivity period is set to 4
months. Within the next few hours, the new design of the H2 ladder will be
all u/l.

I will do the PC Hornet ladder next and then the RBII and WB ladders. After
that I will be adding some new ladders. I have made some contacts for
supplying ladders during beta testing and hope to bring those on line and
get us first shot at the beta testing. One contact I have made but doesn't
have anything Mac ready for awhile will involve the next couple years.

So if you should find a ladder password protected, that's why.

Dale

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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) MaxOverlays WarBirds 2.01 Med Maps
Date: 10 May 1998 22:00:25 -0700

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim

My Max=D8verlays WarBirds 2.01 Med Maps are finished and available at:
http://www.fairmont.wvnet.edu/www/webteam/bob/overlays/wbmap.html

I'm working on the other terrains.

Stay tuned.


Later,  -Bob

--
Bob Heffner
Graphic Designer - Fairmont State College
xam@access.mountain.net
rlh@fscvax.fairmont.wvnet.edu





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From: Thon de Boer <thon@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladder changes
Date: 11 May 1998 23:06:45 +0200

Hi Dale,

I see you have been busy with redesigning the ladders....And I must say
although I admire you enthusiasm, it's still a pity that the ladders lost
their identity a bit. The artwork we had for Hornet ladders was quite
effective and very beutifully designed. All pages had the same color
schemes as the artwork and they were very distinct. Now they all look the
same. This is going back to the old days.

All black and the ladders themselves have different colorschemes then the
welcome page. I think we should put back the original artwork. Also has a
tribute to the artist that I asked to make the artwork.


Sorry to be a bit negative and I don't want to put you down since you are
the main driving force for the flightsim community especially for the Mac,
but please give the ladders back their distinctiveness...


Thon





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From: Dale Bottrell <cdb@user1.inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Flight sim survey
Date: 11 May 1998 15:41:10 -0700 (MST)

From MacGaming Ledge http://www.macledge.com/NEWS.chtml

SquidSoft flight sim survey

SquidSoft is encouraging Mac flight sim fans to visit their site to
participate in a survey on their gaming habits. SquidSoft is presently
considering a Mac flight
simulator project.

http://www.squidsoft.com/survey.html




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From: Dale Bottrell <cdb@user1.inficad.com>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladder changes
Date: 11 May 1998 15:54:06 -0700 (MST)

I've noticed the same thing myself. The idea I had was to make the Hornet
ladders similar the way you and Nash did in the first place. The other
ladders would be different, but I got carried away a bit with it and it
became more then the just the Hornet ladders.

I will address this very shortly. I want to find/get some other art.
Something more dynamic

Dale

On Mon, 11 May 1998, Thon de Boer wrote:

> Hi Dale,
> 
> I see you have been busy with redesigning the ladders....And I must say
> although I admire you enthusiasm, it's still a pity that the ladders lost
> their identity a bit. The artwork we had for Hornet ladders was quite
> effective and very beutifully designed. All pages had the same color
> schemes as the artwork and they were very distinct. Now they all look the
> same. This is going back to the old days.
> 
> All black and the ladders themselves have different colorschemes then the
> welcome page. I think we should put back the original artwork. Also has a
> tribute to the artist that I asked to make the artwork.
> 
> 
> Sorry to be a bit negative and I don't want to put you down since you are
> the main driving force for the flightsim community especially for the Mac,
> but please give the ladders back their distinctiveness...
> 
> 
> Thon
> 
> 
> 
> 




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From:	Chris Wharton <wharton@mail.bc.rogers.wave.ca>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladder changes
Date: 12 May 1998 01:24:48 -0800


>I will address this very shortly. I want to find/get some other art.
>Something more dynamic
>
>Dale
>
Sorry my art wasn't dynamic enuff fer yer impeccable taste ...

<g>

Nash





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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: Re: (cww) Ladder changes
Date: 12 May 1998 01:35:52 -0700

At 1:24 AM -0800 5/12/98, Chris Wharton wrote:
>>I will address this very shortly. I want to find/get some other art.
>>Something more dynamic
>>
>>Dale
>>
>Sorry my art wasn't dynamic enuff fer yer impeccable taste ...
>
><g>
>
>Nash

I'm sorry....I like whole airplanes :)

But if you want, the ladders could still do with your touch. I tend to
develop tunnel vision about the goals :))

Dale


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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Warbirds Rumors
Date: 13 May 1998 21:34:54 -0700

Numerous Pyro Updates
            Lots of good news out of Pyro today, including stuff about
v2.01 CDs, a new rev for Mac and PC users, and other cool stuff. Especially
nice, is the mention of being able to turn off certain textures in 3D,
which should make it more viable as an option for many fliers as reports
are that this could increase FRs by as much as 10 FPS.

                 CDs on Order
                 I forgot to mention that the CDs for 2.01 are being
mastered and we're expecting to begin sending them out in 2 weeks.
I'll post here as soon as we get them back and start shipping them out.

                 Upcoming Revisions
                 We've been working on further revisions for 2.01 that we
trying to get out by the end of this week. Here is what's on tap. For the
D3D version, the problem with the square textures has been fixed. We've
also made some internal changes to eke out some extra performance,
primarily in the speed of making view switches. We also included toggles to
turn off the horizon and sky textures. We're currently still working on a
keyboard lockup problem in the D3D version. For the PC and Mac versions,
we've found a bug that could cause invisible planes, made some fixes to
H2H, fixed some quirks in the autogunner code, and fixed a bug in the oil
leakage model. For the Mac version, we've fixed the problem with rudder
pedals, the mouse cursor not hiding, the instruments in the norden view,
the problems with the ammo counters blanking out, problems with the radio
buffer not displaying correctly, and the lack of individual aircraft
sounds, plus some others not listed here.

                 Point Blank Registration
                 Our first full-scale scenario titled "Point Blank" will
begin accepting registration this Friday. For more information on this
scenario, click here.

                 ID Changes
                 For anyone wishing to make a one-time change to their 6
letter ID, we will be accepting requests starting this Friday. Instructions
will be posted here
this Friday on how to go about getting your ID changed. Please come back to
this page on Friday to receive further instructions.

                 New Gateway
                 An updated IMOL Gateway(the web launching/account
maintenance utility) is available at our website. We had a problem with the
auto-updater in the old version, so you will need to download and install
the new Gateway (Version 1.03) if you do not already have
it. The Gateway allows a user to launch from the website, check usage, and
change account
information. The Gateway is currently only available for the PC, the Mac
Gateway is under
development.

                 Con 98
                 The convention webpage has been updated, including a
revamped and complete schedule. Our third annual convention is shaping up
to be the best one yet,
don't miss out on all the fun.

 PointBlank Practice (Unofficial)
            Ram1 has agreed to setup one of the special events arenas for a
PointBlank-style practice on Thursday night. This will be a
one-life-to-live type of practice and will feature the planes that will be
used in PB. COs have been appointed for the LW and US (fighter) sides. For
more detailed information, the best place to stop by is AGW.





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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Fwd: BOUNCE cww@lists.xmission.com
Date: 14 May 1998 07:29:09 -0700

>Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:09:25 +0200
>To: cww@lists.xmission.com
>From: Bart Van Put <bart@imagebuilding.be>
>Subject: Re: (cww) Warbirds Rumors
>
>At 06:34 +0200 14-05-1998, Dale wrote:
>>Numerous Pyro Updates
>>            Lots of good news out of Pyro today, including stuff about
>>v2.01 CDs, a new rev for Mac and PC users, and other cool stuff. Especially
>>nice, is the mention of being able to turn off certain textures in 3D,
>>which should make it more viable as an option for many fliers as reports
>>are that this could increase FRs by as much as 10 FPS.
>>
>
>
>SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNIP
>
>Did anyone ask about the "stationary" exploded planes already ? Yesterday i
>saw this spit hanging over F15 doing nothin': I could fly right tru !. It
>looked "exploded" in the sense that it's wings, fuselage and tail were
>hanging in midairn, separated by maybe 20 ft.
>
>bart van put
>bartbe (for belgium)
>mostly reds
>





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From: Nick Harman <nharman@copycom.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (cww) Fwd: BOUNCE cww@lists.xmission.com
Date: 14 May 1998 16:07:54 +0100


>>SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNIP
>>
>>Did anyone ask about the "stationary" exploded planes already ? Yesterday i
>>saw this spit hanging over F15 doing nothin': I could fly right tru !. It
>>looked "exploded" in the sense that it's wings, fuselage and tail were
>>hanging in midairn, separated by maybe 20 ft.
>>
>>bart van put
>>bartbe (for belgium)
>>mostly reds



Huh. you mean you can fly from europe? I get dumped back to the tower and
disconnected about every 5 mins:-( If i do stay on line the orange beacons
a fixture and thus I warp terribly.

IMOl arent gettin any money outa me til I get a decent connect cos Ive
tried 3 isps and its all the same so it aint me!

Cockney
>>


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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Fwd: BOUNCE cww@lists.xmission.com
Date: 14 May 1998 08:53:09 -0700

>Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:35:40 +0200
>To: cww@lists.xmission.com
>From: Bart Van Put <bart@imagebuilding.be>
>Subject: Re: (cww) Fwd: BOUNCE cww@lists.xmission.com
>
>>
>
>Well Nick,
>
>UK is europe, isn't it ?
>
>Here's my setup: we have a straight 24h isdn line to our provider UUnet. At
>the moment we are at 65K but we are moving to 128K. So lately i'm not
>having too much discos.
>
>May be the warping I see is only caused by other peoples partial discos
>
>
>Bart Van Put
>bartbe
>
>
>>Huh. you mean you can fly from europe? I get dumped back to the tower and
>>disconnected about every 5 mins:-( If i do stay on line the orange beacons
>>a fixture and thus I warp terribly.
>>
>>IMOl arent gettin any money outa me til I get a decent connect cos Ive
>>tried 3 isps and its all the same so it aint me!
>>
>>Cockney
>





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From: Wade Williams <wwilliam@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: (cww) Warbirds connect
Date: 14 May 1998 11:07:25 -0500

At 04:07 PM 5/14/98 +0100, Nick Harman wrote:
>
>Huh. you mean you can fly from europe? I get dumped back to the tower and
>disconnected about every 5 mins:-( If i do stay on line the orange beacons
>a fixture and thus I warp terribly.
>
>IMOl arent gettin any money outa me til I get a decent connect cos Ive
>tried 3 isps and its all the same so it aint me!
>

Be sure that it's your connect and not your machine.

A friend of mine had a PPC 603 at 75 Mhz.  He could go into WB and fly
offline with no problem (albeit at a very low frame rate).  He could go
online and sit in the tower with no problem.  He could go on the runway and
sit with no problem.  He could download large files with no problem.

But, as soon as he started his engine, his beacon would go yellow and then
eventually red.  Watching the modem transmit and receieve lights, you
literally could see the modem stop transmitting.

Turns out that processing the sound simply put his machine over the edge in
terms of CPU cycles.  It was simply too busy to keep up with the
communications.  If he turned all sound off he could get a decent beacon.

Naturally, that wasn't acceptable so he's the owner of a 225 MHZ 604e
machine now. :)

Wade
Wade Williams                                        wwilliam@cisco.com
WarBirds ID:  ==au==
4th Fighter Group Squadron     
336th Rocketeers Fighter Squadron Commander
(http://home.earthlink.net/~fourthfg/)      

Member of the WarBirds training staff                       



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From: Nick Harman <nharman@copycom.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (cww) Fwd: BOUNCE cww@lists.xmission.com
Date: 14 May 1998 17:43:05 +0100

>>Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:35:40 +0200
>>To: cww@lists.xmission.com
>>From: Bart Van Put <bart@imagebuilding.be>
>>Subject: Re: (cww) Fwd: BOUNCE cww@lists.xmission.com
>>
>>>
>>
>>Well Nick,
>>
>>UK is europe, isn't it ?
>>
>>Here's my setup: we have a straight 24h isdn line to our provider UUnet. At
>>the moment we are at 65K but we are moving to 128K. So lately i'm not
>>having too much discos.
>>
>>May be the warping I see is only caused by other peoples partial discos
>>
>>


I should think an ISDn line helps a lot:-) yes the warping you see probably
isnt you. However, wb 2.0 was never as bad as this so I dont think my
isp(s) are at fault nor my venerable 33.6 modem. It has ta be a bug!

C

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From: Nick Harman <nharman@copycom.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (cww) Warbirds connect
Date: 14 May 1998 17:45:04 +0100

>At 04:07 PM 5/14/98 +0100, Nick Harman wrote:
>>
>>Huh. you mean you can fly from europe? I get dumped back to the tower and
>>disconnected about every 5 mins:-( If i do stay on line the orange beacons
>>a fixture and thus I warp terribly.
>>
>>IMOl arent gettin any money outa me til I get a decent connect cos Ive
>>tried 3 isps and its all the same so it aint me!
>>
>
>Be sure that it's your connect and not your machine.
>


Well I have <smugmode> a g3 233 with 90mb ram </smugmode>

I dont think its the mac, altho the symptoms do sound familiar

C

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From: Dan Champagne <dan@navnet.net>
Subject: (cww) 3d news
Date: 14 May 1998 23:02:35 -0300

The game Wizard is a 3d card under devolopment for tha Mac. 1024 x 768
on a 3d card that rocks would be great for Korea. From the excerpt
below the game Wizard can be connected to another game Wizard and the
memory would be interlaced, probably resulting in 1024 x 768 in 3d with
no frame rate hits. The excerpt was taken from a FAQ from this cite
http://www.tikkabik.com/3d/index.html. If anyone got any info on a
release date could you post the info? Zorro out. Oh, BTW, any news
about Korea getting the TCP/IP patch from GSC, or will we be stuck with
ip rebroke, I mean remote? See you later.



<fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param><bigger>First, we are the only
company offering Voodoo2 for Mac (which supports 

native Mac games); therefore, we will be the first to offer 12 and/or 

16MB solutions. Currently, it is not obvious that existing games 

available for the Mac see an improvement when the Voodoo2 card is 12MB


vs 8MB; however, if this becomes the case, we will certainly support a


12MB version. In fact, the 8MB card is based on a design which easily 

allows for this. (And also a fact, we are being beaten-up due to our 

higher prices [relative to PC companies] by people who don't understand


volume pricing issues and the cost of added value. Any version which is


more expensive and without proven justification would just make the 

matter worse. If the apparent interest in 12MB is driven more by 

marketing hype [from the other side] than by true value added, this
goes 

against our base philosophy of 'Value Packed.') Remember, neither you 

nor anyone else has seen Voodoo2 yet perform on a Mac (supporting Mac 

native games)... and you won't until the Game Wizard is available. We 

believe it will support the vast majority of users' needs just fine at


8MB. If not, and if the market demand will support it, then we'll do a


12MB version. If the increased cost (to me and you) is justified by the


increase in performance, we're there! If its just marketing hype and 

one-upmanship, we're more loyal to you, and ourselves, than that. As
far 

as 16MB, we plan to provide ScanLineInterlace (SLI) support; therefore,


a 16MB solution via two Game Wizards in SLI configuration will be 

available. If, as you say, you will only consider a solution which 

better attempts to satisfy your "need for speed," then this is
something 

you should definately consider! When the Game Wizard is first released


as an 8MB solution, we will welcome your experiences, in addition to 

others, and combine those inputs with our own testing. When empirical 

data becomes available, we will be better able advantage of this great


technology in a configuration which satisfactorily mixes performance
and 

price, and the sooner the better for both of us!
</bigger></fontfamily>





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From: Bart Van Put <bart@imagebuilding.be>
Subject: Re: (cww) Warbirds connect
Date: 15 May 1998 09:42:45 +0200


ok,

mine is bigger than yours : G3 266 MHz with 160 MB ram.

bart
-----

At 18:45 +0200 14-05-1998, Nick Harman wrote:
>>At 04:07 PM 5/14/98 +0100, Nick Harman wrote:
>>>
>>>Huh. you mean you can fly from europe? I get dumped back to the tower and
>>>disconnected about every 5 mins:-( If i do stay on line the orange beacons
>>>a fixture and thus I warp terribly.
>>>
>>>IMOl arent gettin any money outa me til I get a decent connect cos Ive
>>>tried 3 isps and its all the same so it aint me!
>>>
>>
>>Be sure that it's your connect and not your machine.
>>
>
>
>Well I have <smugmode> a g3 233 with 90mb ram </smugmode>
>
>I dont think its the mac, altho the symptoms do sound familiar
>
>C
>
>nick_harman copywriting
>Tel: 0181 677 3356
>Fax:  0181 769 7839
>Mobile 0850 296102.
>virtually a portfolio:
>http://www.copycom.demon.co.uk
>stuart.harman freelance creative team:
>http://freespace.virgin.net/stuart.harman






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From: Oz Trad <kahuna@tstonramp.com>
Subject: (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
Date: 15 May 1998 10:18:56 -0700

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found on Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military.naval

Can anyone tell me where I can find photos of a Blue Angel F/18???
Whether it
be a book or on the web I NEED some pictures.  I'm doing a 3D flight
simulator
of the Blue Angels and need to get as much info on them as possible.  I
need
the pictures to do texture mapping on 3D models........also any specs on
the
cockpit would be GREATLY appreciated....I want to make the SIM as REAL
as
possible.  Plus is there a place where I can get a video of a Blue Angel

Please email me ANY responses.....THANKS in advance!!!!
Media ASE:
mediaase@aol.com (Media ase)

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Can anyone tell me where I can find photos of a Blue Angel F/18???  Whether it
be a book or on the web I NEED some pictures.  I'm doing a 3D flight simulator
of the Blue Angels and need to get as much info on them as possible.  I need
the pictures to do texture mapping on 3D models........also any specs on the
cockpit would be GREATLY appreciated....I want to make the SIM as REAL as
possible.  Plus is there a place where I can get a video of a Blue Angel

Please email me ANY responses.....THANKS in advance!!!!
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From: Peter Pipkorn <familjen.pipkorn@mbox200.swipnet.se>
Subject: Re: (cww) 3d news
Date: 15 May 1998 19:24:54 +0200

I've read that the Game Wizard voodo2 card is scheduled for a June 
release.

Peter Pipkorn
Picon_ on IRC





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From: Dan Champagne <dan@navnet.net>
Subject: (cww) 3d news
Date: 16 May 1998 05:26:16 -0300

I've found the home page for the Whizzard 3d card,
http://www.microconversions.com/index.html
to any info available. See you guys later, Zorro out.





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From: Bradley Williams <bradlew@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
Date: 28 Aug 1998 02:48:56 +0000

I have a stack of about 150 photos of the Blue Angels in flight. Need
any?



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From: <modonne@midcoast.com.au>
Subject: Re: (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
Date: 17 May 1998 15:08:25 +1000

>Subject:     (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
>Sent:        16/5/98 3:18
>Received:    16/5/98 9:27
>From:        Oz Trad, kahuna@tstonramp.com
>Reply-To:    cww@lists.xmission.com
>To:          cww@lists.xmission.com
>Enclosure:   encoded MIME file
>
>found on Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military.naval
>
>Can anyone tell me where I can find photos of a Blue Angel F/18???
>Whether it
>be a book or on the web I NEED some pictures.  I'm doing a 3D flight
>simulator
>of the Blue Angels and need to get as much info on them as possible.  I
>need
>the pictures to do texture mapping on 3D models........also any specs on
>the
>cockpit would be GREATLY appreciated....I want to make the SIM as REAL
>as
>possible.  Plus is there a place where I can get a video of a Blue Angel
>
>Please email me ANY responses.....THANKS in advance!!!!
>Media ASE:
>mediaase@aol.com (Media ase)

Well you might find some at www.militarycity.com, along with tons of 
other Hornet pictures.

Gecko



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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Hornet 2 Tournament
Date: 17 May 1998 13:52:00 -0700

I am about ready to put on the first in the revived series of CWW Gunsmoke
tournaments for thew flight sim community, a Hornet 2 tournament. I was
putting together the web page for it and realized that the tournament
doesn't have a name to set it apart yet.

In the past, I have always figured something out. But should it be
restricted to me? Why should I be the only one to name these things? So, I
am looking for a tournament name (original preferably) to use with an H2
tournament. I will accept entries thru May 23 (next Saturday) and give the
person whose suggestion is selected credit right under the tournament name.
If that person is in a squadron, they can elect to have their sq name
appended to the credit. There will be no voting for the selection, I will
choose whatever seems best

Dale

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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Tournament Framework
Date: 17 May 1998 18:18:23 -0700

The Gunsmoke Tournament Series is being revived as part of the CWW. It will
be used to staged a series of tournies using a variety of flight sims, Mac
and/or PC.

To see what is being done, check out :

http://www.inficad.com/~cdb/CWW/Competition/GS.html

It is still a work in progress, but any suggestions would be welcome for
making it better

Dale

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From: Dan Champagne <dan@navnet.net>
Subject: (cww) How to build a flight motion simulator
Date: 17 May 1998 23:39:47 -0400

Hi all! If anyone is intrested in building a motion simulator check this
out http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1160/index.html
This guy (KEN) seems to be on something very intresting with regards to a
home built motion flight simulator. A little e mail in his mailbox would
encourage him to perhaps release the plans sooner. I spoke to him (via E
mail) several times and he's a top notch guy into flying. If anyone got any
ideas for a home built simulator feel free to drop me a line.  Hoping to
build one as soon as I make room in the house. Strapped some card board
wings onto my station wagon, floored it and flew off a ramp at high speed,
but it didn't stay airborn for long, (just kidding, almost), though I did
get my it airborne on several occasions, the landing part is hard on the
suspension though. Anything to get airborn! If we can get 3d fx in 1024 x
768 with fast FPS, TCP/IP 2 vs 2, a decient voice com, and a motion
simulator, we'll be rocking.  See you guys later, Zorro out.





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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) X-plane
Date: 18 May 1998 15:21:25 -0700

http://www.macledge.com/NEWS.chtml

X-Plane 4.0b13 released
Laminar Research's latest public beta release of X-Plane, v4.0b13 has
been released. X-Plane is a detailed civilian flight simulator than
supports hardware acceleration through ATI and Newer video cards.



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From: Dan Champagne <dan@navnet.net>
Subject: (cww) New 3d Mac news update!!!
Date: 18 May 1998 20:11:01 -0400

The following is the latest in 3d devolopment for the Mac. These guys
are serious!


<bigger>Updated Game Wizard FAQs as provided to the outside world:



1) Does June still look like a reasonable date for your Game Wizard
Voodoo2

cards to ship?


Yes. Although also dependent on receipt of our allocations of chips
from

3Dfx, it appears the completion of Mac drivers will be done in time to

allow Game Wizard deliveries in June. We see the Macworld EXPO in NYC
as

critical for the Game Wizard's 'roll-out' and are doing everything
possible

to make sure its ready and shipping by then.



2) Will the Game Wizard pass-through the Mac monitor sense lines?


The Game Wizard supports all Apple sense codes, including those which
also

support the DDC2B VESA standard (also referred to as Win95 PnP). This

feature allows for the widest possible compatibility between Macs
and/or

Compatibles with Apple and/or PC monitors.



3) What software will be included with the Game Wizard?


Still working on that, but I can say we are talking to all interesting
Mac

game sources which take advantage of Voodoo and/or Voodoo2, and we
will

include as much as we can without raising the cost (to everyone)

unacceptably.



4) Will the Game Wizard ship with RAVE drivers?


Yes.


Now would be a good time to discuss exactly what the Game Wizard, or
any

Voodoo/Voodoo2 card does and doesn't do.  The only time this chipset
is

active is when a game 'calls' it.  These engines are not used for any

purpose other than 3D game acceleration.  Even then, they can only
work

when drawing 'full screen', i.e. not in a window.  These cards are

installed between the graphics card, or built-in, and the monitor
through

the use of a pass-thru cable.  When not being 'called' by a game, they
sit

idle and the graphics display to the monitor passes through untouched.

They cannot affect, control or be integrated into the desktop because
the

desktop is defined before they even see it.  (However, they accelerate
the

hell out of it when its a full-screen 3D game!)  Its because this card
is

designed only to be the best possible 3D game accelerator you can buy,
that

it enjoys its reputation... it IS the best possible 3D game accelerator
you

can buy.  (Neither this card nor any other Voodoo2 card is designed to

provide 3D in a window.)



5) How long have you been working on the drivers?


We've been working with 3Dfx for several months now.



6) What is your expectation of compatibility with existing Glide and
RAVE games?


Total. All Mac games which support 3Dfx's MacGlide (Glide for Mac)
and/or

QuickDraw3D RAVE, and/or billed as supporting either Voodoo and/or
Voodoo2,

will take advantage of the Game Wizard. (That should just about cover

everybody!) This is really more dependent on the game developers... if
the

game looks for 3D acceleration through one of the only two Mac 3D

acceleration APIs available, MacGlide or QuickDraw3D RAVE, then the
Game

Wizard will support their calls and work its butt off accelerating
those

games!



7) What will be the minimum CPU speed you recommend with the Game
Wizard?


None. This is really dependent on the users and the game developers;
for

example, many of the games which make good use of Voodoo and/or
Voodoo2,

are also enjoyed on PCI Macs (as old as the very first ones) which
don't

yet have a Voodoo Graphics=81 card in them. For every user, its a
personal

choice and each game performs differently in this regard; however,
EVERY

PCI MAC and EVERY GAME, which supports Voodoo/Voodoo2, WILL see
SIGNIFICANT

performance enhancement through the use of the Game Wizard. There is
no

such thing as a PCI Mac which is too slow to run these games when a
Game

Wizard is installed; however, some obviously allow the games to push
the

Game Wizard to higher performances... it really depends on the user's

threshold of joy! (Personally, I've enjoyed some of these games on Macs
as

slow as the 6100/66 class. Every PCI Mac is much faster than this and
as

I've always said: "There's no such thing as a bad Mac game... just good
and

better!")



8) Will your Mac drivers support SLI?


We plan to support SLI, but its not certain SLI will be done in time
for

the first release. So many people want basic Voodoo2 for Mac ASAP that
if

SLI requires any significant delay, we will push it back to the next

release. The first-release hardware will support SLI; its just that
the

software update may be provided afterwards.


We are also planning a single PCI-slot SLI card which uses two sets of

processors, six total, and is loaded with 24MB [for Mac].



9) Will you offer a 12MB version of the Game Wizard?


Yes, the Game Wizard will be released in 8MB and 12MB versions

simultaneously. SRP is $299 and $349 respectively.


Although recent inputs from game developers, users and our own testing

indicate no significant performance boost between the 8MB and 12MB
versions

with todays available Mac games, they also indicate that some Mac
games

planned for future release will take advantage of this extra texture

mapping memory. It is far too early to quantify this performance boost

however, so we must all wait-and-see exactly what this means to each of
us

personally [as users].



10) Will the Game Wizard's Mac drivers work with any other Voodoo2 or

Voodoo cards? Other Mac Voodoo/Voodoo2 cards (if any arrive in the
future)?

Any PC Voodoo/Voodoo2 cards?


No. The Mac drivers for Voodoo2 will not work with any card other than
the

Game Wizard. The Game Wizard's hardware and software are integrated to

provide optimized performance on the Mac; therefore, trying to use one

without the other would be pointless. Any such attempt has been
precluded.



11) Will you be the only company to have a Voodoo2 card for the Mac?
=46or

how long?


We are the only Company which has announced a Voodoo2 product for the
Mac.

I don't know of any other potential offering to the Mac community. I
hope

this is the case for a long, long time!



12) You seem to be developing the Mac drivers internally. Are you
working

with 3Dfx? Are you the only ones working on Mac drivers? For how long?


We are developing Mac drivers for Voodoo2 internally and working very

closely with 3Dfx. We have been developing Mac graphics & video
drivers

since 1986, longer than anyone else [other than Apple]; therefore, we
are

confident that our offering will be the best possible regardless of
what

may happen in the future. As it stands right now, we aren't aware of
any

other Mac driver development for this chipset.



13)  What made you decide to work on a game card for the Mac?
TechWorks

seemed, so far, the only company interested in the business.


We are in the process of filling-out our VP (Value Packed) MacOS
graphics &

video product line. [Several new products in-the-works.] A 3D game card
is

part of a full line-up and the timing of Voodoo2 is perfect for our
plans.

Since 3Dfx Voodoo Graphics=81 is the best possible 3D game solution, and
the

Voodoo2 is so much better than Voodoo, we just couldn't resist making
this

product part of our offering to the Mac community!



14) What improvement can Mac users expect with the Game Wizard,
compared to

the Power3D?


The 192-bit memory architecture and parallel processing feature of
Voodoo2

provides 3 times the raw POWER over the Voodoo chipset. [The Game
Wizard

utilizes three processors.] Because of this, any slow-downs users are

experiencing when in higher resolutions or texture depths/choices will
be

greatly reduced or even disappear totally! More people will be able to

enjoy these games at higher quality levels. Additionally, now that the

standard has been raised and more power is made available, new games
will

surely push these benefits for even greater game performances. Use of
a

Game Wizard will put the Mac user in the best possible configuration
for

game playing!



15) Will the Game Wizard work in "all-in-one" Power Mac models? If
yes,

how? Or won't it unless one plugs in an external monitor?


The Game Wizard will not work with these [current] internal monitors.

Because the all-in-one Macs feed the internal monitor directly, and in
such

a way that it would be very messy to intercept the display internally,
the

Game Wizard can't position itself between the graphics source and the

monitor. Since these models would require a graphics card to drive an

external monitor, any single PCI slot machine wouldn't have the option

available even with an external monitor (the external monitor's 2D
graphics

card would fill the only slot). Any new model which would allow access

between the graphics source and the monitor, or have multiple PCI
slots,

may be able to accommodate a Game Wizard; however, these all-in-one
models

have exhibited noise problems in the past due to the proximity of the

magnetic fields associated with the internal monitor and installed

expansion cards, which are not exposed to these EMI threats in other

configurations. This would have to be examined on a case-by-case
basis.



16) Do you feel like 3Dfx planned delivery of Voodoo2 chips for Mac
after

PC card manufacturers got theirs?


Our production quantity of chipset deliveries from 3Dfx coming later
than

deliveries to some PC card providers is due to normal business concerns
and

not distinction between Mac and PC. 3Dfx has not short-changed the Mac

community; in fact, we are getting great support from 3Dfx! Our
getting

chips later is because we entered the arena later than some of the
others

and our volumes are significantly lower. In this industry, it is normal
for

this situation to result in later deliveries, particularly when related
to

a chipset as HOT as this one. The allocations of this chipset are a
serious

issue and can not be avoided. As it worked out, there was no harm done

because we haven't finished the Mac drivers anyway.



17) Who will be your distributor in Europe?


We have opened an office in the UK to develop our market in Europe.
Each

segment there will be set up for distribution as best fits the
particular

Country/region.



18) How would you introduce Micro Conversions using a few sentences ?


Micro Conversions, Inc. is a Mac-only developer providing award
winning

solutions to the Mac community since 1985. [Only one left (other than

Apple) who had a booth at the first Macworld EXPO.] For more than 10
years,

we only sold through OEMs. If you've been using a Mac for very long,

chances are you've experienced some of our products. Micro Conversions
now

offers its products under its own name and is still as committed to the
Mac

and the Mac community as ever!


Our current line of graphics and video products for the Mac are in a
family

referred to as 'Value Packed' (VP). This family of products delivers a

cross between technology and price which is aimed at 'the rest of us.'
As

the technology matures, the products are enhanced while maintaining
pricing

through the entire life-cycle which offers value at every stage, and
for

the majority of Mac users... not just the privileged few with the most

powerful and expensive workstations. In this way, the majority of us
don't

have to wait in order to experience new capabilities as they are

introduced.


Our newest product is the Game Wizard. Incorporating 3Dfx Voodoo2

technology, the Game Wizard offers PCI Mac users the opportunity to
enjoy

the best possible game performance available today at a price which is
very

reasonable, especially when considering the relative volumes between it
and

similar products on the PC side. Optimized for the Mac, the Game Wizard
is

a must-have for Mac gamers!


Best Regards,


Robert L. Archer

Marketing & Sales Manager

Micro Conversions, Inc.

817/468-9922 ext: 25

barcher@airmail.net

www.microconversions.com




</bigger>





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From: <modonne@midcoast.com.au>
Subject: Re: (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
Date: 21 May 1998 17:53:55 +1000

>Subject:     Re: (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
>Sent:        28/8/56 12:48
>Received:    17/5/98 15:08
>From:        Bradley Williams, bradlew@aloha.net
>Reply-To:    cww@lists.xmission.com
>To:          cww@lists.xmission.com
>
>I have a stack of about 150 photos of the Blue Angels in flight. Need
>any?


I think you have a problem with your date on your computer :)

Gecko



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From: Nick Harman <nharman@copycom.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (cww) How to build a flight motion simulator
Date: 21 May 1998 11:31:49 +0100

A)	Drink copious ammounts of cheap beer

B)	Spin around on the spot violently

C)	Sit in chair (place bucket nearby)

You're done

Cockney



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From: "T. A. Lucas" <tal@netrax.net>
Subject: Re: (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
Date: 21 May 1998 07:16:53 -0400

Date problem is a typical "I need a new battery" problem, which commonly
resets the date at startup default.

Thermo
==========


modonne@midcoast.com.au wrote:

> >Subject:     Re: (cww) [Fwd: Need Blue Angel photos]
> >Sent:        28/8/56 12:48
> >Received:    17/5/98 15:08
> >From:        Bradley Williams, bradlew@aloha.net
> >Reply-To:    cww@lists.xmission.com
> >To:          cww@lists.xmission.com
> >
> >I have a stack of about 150 photos of the Blue Angels in flight. Need
> >any?
>
> I think you have a problem with your date on your computer :)
>
> Gecko






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From:	Chris Wharton <wharton@mail.bc.rogers.wave.ca>
Subject: (cww) New hornet guy
Date: 21 May 1998 11:18:48 -0400

Howdy,

Just got this email, and was hopin' some of you Hornet aces could give this
guy a hand:

hi........i saw your name out of many in the screeming masiahs page. I was
wondering if you knew were i can get someones number to play against. Im new
at the network stuff. Mostly i just want to see if my network for hornet 2.0
works.  Thanx   espibanez@aol.com

Nash





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From: "Hiram C. Wilson" <hiram@nauticom.net>
Subject: (cww) Bullseye's "Early Bird Special"
Date: 21 May 1998 11:50:00 -0400

Hello guys,

I have some news that I think readers of the Cyber Wings of the World 
mailing list will be interested in hearing.  The details are below.

Have a great day,

Hiram

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You've seen the demo and you know Bullseye Software=B9s Flying Circus is 
going to be a hot flight sim. So, when is it going to be finished? It 
will be finished late this summer. But for a select group of flight sim 
enthusiasts, we are pleased to offer our "Early Bird Special."

This Early Bird Special means you start enjoying the program now, in its 
pre-finished state. Then, every week or two a new updater will be posted 
on the Bullseye Software website 
<http://www.nauticom.net/www/website/bullseye/>. Early Bird Special 
owners can then download the updater and use each new version of the 
program as it moves toward completion. You'll be among the first people 
to see and experience each new version of the program. Plus, you'll be 
able to fly with it over the Internet NOW.

Please understand, the Early Bird Special isn't the finished program and 
it isn't for everyone. You'll run into features not working correctly and 
things may change from version to version. This offer is intended for 
those with a pioneering spirit. This is a unique opportunity to 
experience the development process as the program is polished and 
completed.

You will, of course, receive the final release version on CD-ROM, when it 
ships, at no additional charge. Here are the complete details on the 
Early Bird Special:

  *Receive the current version now. (Visit Bullseye=B9s website for the 
current feature set.)
  *Receive access to updated versions of the program as they become 
available.
  *Receive the HotCarts program on CD-ROM. (Flying Circus will be 'keyed' 
to the HotCarts CD during the Early Bird Special development period.) 
HotCarts is yours to keep, free of charge.
  *Receive the final release CD-ROM of Bullseye Software's Flying Circus, 
when it's available, at no additional charge.
  *And, you pay $10 less than the suggested retail price of Bullseye 
Software's Flying Circus. 

There is no downside to this offer. You get to start enjoying Bullseye 
Software's Flying Circus NOW, you get $10 off the retail price, and you 
receive HotCarts free. Plus, you'll help make Bullseye Software's Flying 
Circus be the best possible flight sim!

Order today! This offer is available to a limited number of people, for a 
limited time only, and is on a first come, first served basis. Available 
direct from Bullseye Software only.

Suggested Retail Price: $59.95 (plus $5.05 shipping and handling)

EARLY BIRD SPECIAL PRICE: $49.95 (plus $5.05 shipping and handling)

For additional information, and to order, please visit Bullseye=B9s website=
 
at <http://www.nauticom.net/www/website/bullseye/>.



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From: Nick Harman <nharman@copycom.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (cww) New hornet guy
Date: 21 May 1998 18:24:26 +0100

As I seem to recall from my early attempts at AOL, its not very good at
annything like netgames cos that AOL browser is always active

maybe Im wrong/ its changed tho

N

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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) H3 Tournament
Date: 22 May 1998 17:38:36 -0700

The CWW Gunsmoke Tournament Series has been revived and expanded upon.
Gunsmoke will stage tournaments for different flight sims, both PC and
Mac. There are several tournaments planned already but not scheduled
beyond the first one.

Initially I am looking for suggestions of what additional flight sims
should be included and some sort of scheduling. In the past there has
been world tournaments held in 3 parts for the various time zones. And
ones that had only one start time.

You can find the Gunsmoke page at:

http://www.xmission.com/~thon/CWW/Competition/GS.html

The first tournament of this series will a Hornet 2 for Mac to be code
named, "Cry Havoc...." and registration for it opens immediately. I will
have the ROE for it linked into the Gunsmoke page by Sunday night. All
tournament pages will remain linked to the Gunsmoke page and will
include the bracket to be generated for the match (example coming
soon)that shows all participants and who won. This is aside from
membership in the Aggressor Sq's as specified on the Gunsmoke page

Dale



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From: <modonne@midcoast.com.au>
Subject: (cww) X-plane
Date: 23 May 1998 12:44:58 +1000

--Emailer_-1315615028
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Could someone out there with X-Plane give the X-88 a flight test?

It has good handling, FOW Elevators, fighter turn rates and climb rates 
and phenomenal transient manouverablity.

Slow handling characteristics are good, but landing the aircraft is 
difficult. Use of auto-airspeed control is useful, maintained at 230 
knots.

Gecko
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From: <modonne@midcoast.com.au>
Subject: (cww) X-Plane (correct flight model)
Date: 23 May 1998 15:35:36 +1000

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Whoops! Sent the wrong plane - too much thrust on the other one. Here is 
the proper one!

Enjoy!

Gecko
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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Tournament Registration Open
Date: 23 May 1998 15:47:22 -0700

The registration for a Hornet 2 Tournament to be held June 13 is now open.
Check out the details at:

http://www.xmission.com/~thon/CWW/Competition/GS.html

Dale

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From: Sam Lee <smdnl@pixi.com>
Subject: (cww) Cougars Promotions!
Date: 23 May 1998 22:23:54 -1000 (HST)

Greetings fellow pilots:

Today marked a celebrated event at the VMFA-323rd Cougars' den.

As some of the most respected cyber-pilots in the Hornet community, the
Cougars have put in much time and effort to build this cyber-squad into
what it is today: The longest running #1 squad on the Hornet 3 squad
ladder, the winner of the Cat Fight III tourney (Cougars v Panthers), the
first Hornet squad to have actual squad patches made for flight jackets,
the host of the successful SWARM II invitational (plans in the works for
another one), one of the best squad homepages around, and a squad with a
pilot that has made ladder history by being the first pilot to complete
100+ officials.

Therefore, it is my pleasure to announce the rank promotions of the
following Cougars:

Echo
Juggler
Kahuna
Rovah

have all been promoted from Captains to Majors with all the rights and
privelages that come from attaining this rank.

Muna
Smeagol
Zeek
Zorro

have all been promoted from 1st Lieutenants to Captains with all the rights
and privelages that come from attaining this rank.

I would like to congratulate all these fine men!   OooooRaaah!!!!

Aloha,
Stinger



o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o

Sam Lee
Leesign Graphix
Honolulu, Hawaii
Tel.(808) 951-7468
Bpr.(808) 583-4408
smdnl@pixi.com

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o






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From: rovah@agate.net
Subject: Re: (cww) Cougars Promotions!
Date: 24 May 1998 23:31:21 -0400 (EDT)

Stinger,
       From myself, and I'm sure from all the other men-thank you for the
promotion!  :-)  The pay raise alone will help us accessorize our Hornets!
;-)

Best regards to you all...I just returned tonight from a weekend leading
members of our Land Rover club around the Maine woods.  It was great, with
the exception of the black flies..

Have a great long weekend!  Rovah

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

The Downeast Land Rover Club, <http://www.agate.net/~rovah/>
X0 of the V(irtual)MFA 323rd Cougars/Flying GSC's F/A-18 Hornet game
<http://www.tstonramp.com/~kahuna/index.html>

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, 1970 Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1998 SE Discovery "Chukka," 1987 Range Rover-"Smedley," 1966
Series IIA 88" "SWAMBO,"  1963 Unimog 404.1-S "The Caterpiller,"  1968
Porsche 911L, Series 109" Project





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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) Tournament Registration Open
Date: 25 May 1998 00:46:03 -0700

The registration for a Hornet 2 Tournament to be held June 13 is now open.
Check out the details at:

http://www.xmission.com/~thon/CWW/Competition/GS.html

Dale

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From: Dale <cdb@inficad.com>
Subject: (cww) About Rhapsody
Date: 31 May 1998 15:11:17 -0700

For those of you that are curious about Rhapsody and what is being done,
the following comes from a mailing list on the subject

>Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 16:24:06 -0400 (EDT)
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>From: Raven Zachary <raven@rinzai.com>
>Subject: The RhapsodyOS Report #18 [31-MAY-98]
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>============================
>The RhapsodyOS Report
>Issue #18 / 31 May 1998
>============================
>
>The RhapsodyOS Report is a free weekly summary of Rhapsody, MacOS X, and
>Yellow Box news, software releases, rumors, Internet resources and related
>topics compiled by Raven Zachary <raven@rinzai.com>.
>
>SUBSCRIBE TO THE EMAIL VERSION TODAY! Many of you access The RhapsodyOS
>Report every week via the web and newsgroups. Subscribe to the email
>version and have it automatically delivered to you hours earlier. To
>subscribe, email <rhapsodyos-report request@thenerve.com>. Please include
>the word subscribe in the subject of the message.
>
>THE RHAPSODYOS REPORT INCREASES COVERAGE. Starting with Issue #16, we have
>added MacOS X coverage. Rhapsody and Yellow Box will continue to be our
>primary focus but as we get closer to a release of MacOS X, our priorities
>may shift.
>
>THIS WEEK'S NEWS
>-------------------------
>
>MAY BANG MEETING OVERVIEW. At the Bay Area NeXT Group's (BANG) May meeting
>in Cupertino, the topic was "MacOS X: When they say Think Different, they
>mean REALLY Different! ". Ernest Prabhakar, Apple's Rhapsody Product
>Marketing Manager, was in attendance and stated once again that MacOS X
>will include a BSD layer, although it would be hidden from the user.
>Yellow Box will continue to grow and evolve. Several people used the
>meeting as a platform to complain about the discontinuation of Rhapsody
>for Intel past v1.0.
>
>RED BOX FOR RHAPSODY PROJECT. In a recent issue of The RhapsodyOS Report,
>we mentioned an x86 emulator for UNIX systems called BOCHS. We have
>contacted the project leader and he is open to the possibility of having
>BOCHS ported to Rhapsody (both PowerPC and Intel). The RhapsodyOS Report
>would like to find someone in the Rhapsody developer community who would
>be willing to champion this project and organize a development team to
>bring a low-cost (possibly free) x86 emulator to Rhapsody, allowing for
>Windows and Intel-based UNIX operating systems such as Linux to run within
>Rhapsody. Please send an email to <raven@rinzai.com> if you are interested
>in organizing the development team.
>
>RHAPSODY.IT ADDS ENGLISH COVERAGE, NEW REPORTS. Rhapsody.it, the premier
>Italian site for Rhapsody, has now added English language coverage as well
>as new special reports on DR2 and Blue Box benchmarks. Visit
><http://www.rhapsody-it.com/>.
>
>VERSION TRACKER FOR RHAPSODY. The popular Macintosh web site which tracks
>new software releases has expanded to include a site for Rhapsody at
><http://www.versiontracker.com/rhapsody/rapnew.shtml>. [NOTE: This site
>has also been added to the Rhapsody Internet Resources section below.]
>
>REPRINT - RHAPSODY ADMINISTRATION MAILING LIST CREATED. OmniGroup has
>created a Rhapsody administration mailing list. This list is dedicated to
>Rhapsody administration issues, including installation problems with DR2.
>To join the list, send an email to <listproc@omnigroup.com> with
>"subscribe rhapsody-admin yourfirstname yourlastname" in the body of the
>message. [NOTE: Due to a typo in the subscribe information last week, we
>are reprinting the item with the correct information.]
>
>ARTICLES
>-----------
>
>Apple in Rhapsody Over its NT Challenge
>Garth Montgomery / The Australian
><http://www.theaustralian.com.au/techno/4002309.htm>
>
>Apple's Rhapsody Now Hums a Different Tune
>Don Crabb / Chicago Sun-Times
><http://www.suntimes.com/output/crabb/crabb2.htm>
>
>Apple to Adopt Hybrid Imaging Model
>Rebecca Gulick / MacWeek
><http://www.zdnet.com/macweek/1221/nw_imaging.html>
>
>Back To Object School
>Andrew Stone / RhapsodyOS.com
><http://RhapsodyOS.com/editorial/stone/ST00012.html>
>
>Installing DR2 on the PowerBook 3400 and First Generation PowerBook G3s
>David Herren / Stepwise
><http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Technical/DR2_3400_Install.html>
>
>Mac OS X Support
>Brian J. Matis / self-published
><http://www.calpoly.edu/~bmatis/news/osxsupport.html>
>
>SOFTWARE RELEASES
>------------------
>
>CLIView v1.0
>Command line interview application
>Philippe Mougin <pmougin@infonie.fr>
><http://perso.infonie.fr/pmougin/cliview.zip>
>Intel
>
>CommuniGate Pro v2.1b2
>SMTP/POP/IMAP mail server
>Stalker Software <cgatepro@stalker.com>
><ftp://ftp.stalker.com/Pub/CommuniGatePro/CGatePro-Rhapsody-PPC-21b2.gz>
>PowerPC DR2
>
>GraphiClock v1.0
>Graphic clock
>Rick Sanford <dennyrex@earthlink.net>
><ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/rhapsody/Applications/Clocks/GraphiClock-1.0-P-b.t
>ar.gz>
>PowerPC DR2
>
>HTTPS v1.03 bundle for OmniWeb 3.x
>Ability to support SSL connections in OmniWeb
>Juergen Moellenhoff <jm@oic.de>
><ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.03.r.PI.bs.tar.gz>
>PowerPC and Intel
>
>Mesa v3.0b3
>Spreadsheet
>P & L Systems <info@plsys.co.uk>
><http://www.plsys.co.uk/pr/mesa.beta.3b3.html>
>PowerPC DR2
>
>OpenUp v1.7DR2
>Decompression/compression tool
>Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
><http://www.stepwise.com/Software/OpenUp/index.html>
>PowerPC and Intel DR2
>
>SSLeay Framework v0.9.0
>Framework for the cryptographic library SSLeay
>Juergen Moellenhoff <jm@oic.de>
><ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.r.PI
>.b.tar.gz>
>PowerPC and Intel DR2
>
>THE RUMOR CRITIC
>----------------
>
>MAC OS X KERNEL TO BE A MAJOR EVOLUTION? According to MacOS Rumors, the
>kernel under development for MacOS X next year is a major evolution. The
>MacOS X kernel, currently named Mach B3.0A1, will utilize mostly Mach 3.0
>code from Apple and OSF, but will also include some of the Mach 4.0
>project's work and another unnamed kernel project. We can expect this new
>kernel to provide exceptional performance for MacOS X and beyond.
>
>INTERNET RESOURCES
>-------------------
>
>WWW:
>
>The RhapsodyOS Report
><http://www.rhapsodyos.com/report/>
>
>Stepwise
><http://www.stepwise.com>
>
>RhapNet
><http://www.macnn.com/rhapnet/>
>
>RhapsodyOS.com
><http://www.rhapsodyos.com>
>
>MacCentral: Rhapsody Roundup
><http://www.maccentral.com/features/rhapsody_roundup.shtml>
>
>Stone Design's Dev Corner
><http://www.stone.com/dev/DevCorner.html>
>
>The Rhapsody on Intel Advocacy Site
><http://www.of.org/rhaptel/>
>
>Version Tracker for Rhapsody
><http://www.versiontracker.com/rhapsody/rapnew.shtml>
>
>The Rhapsody User
><http://www.kagi.com/inai/rhap/>
>
>MacOS Rumors
><http://www.macosrumors.com>
>
>MacWeek
><http://www.macweek.com>
>
>thessaSOURCE
><http://www.thessasource.com/>
>
>The Macintosh News Network
><http://www.macnn.com>
>
>MacInTouch
><http://www.macintouch.com>
>
>Apple's Rhapsody Developer Site
><http://developer.apple.com/rhapsody/index.html>
>
>Rhapsody.it [NOTE: Mostly Italian content.]
><http://www.rhapsody-it.com>
>
>MacGadget [NOTE: In German.]
><http://www.macgadget.de>
>
>FTP:
>
>PEAK
><ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/rhapsody/>
><http://www.peak.org/openstep/rhapsody/>
>
>Peanuts
><ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/>
>
>Apple's Rhapsody FTP Developer Site
><ftp://dev.apple.com/devworld/Rhapsody/>
>
>Mailing Lists:
>
>The RhapsodyOS Report
><rhapsodyos-report-request@thenerve.com>
>(subject or body) subscribe
>
>Rhapsody-Talk
><listproc@omnigroup.com>
>(body) subscribe rhapsody-talk firstname lastname
>
>Rhapsody Discussion
><join-rhapsody@clio.lyris.net>
>
>Rhapsody-Administration
>[NOTE: Rhapsody administration and installation issues.]
><listproc@omnigroup.com>
>(body) subscribe rhapsody-admin firstname lastname
>
>Rhaptel-Advocacy
>[NOTE: Support Rhapsody for Intel!]
><majordomo@of.org>
>(body) subscribe rhaptel
>
>OpenStep/WebObjects Newsletter
>[NOTE: Covers Rhapsody, as well.]
><newsletter-request@lists.best.com>
>(body) subsingle
>
>Rhapsody Developers
><listproc@omnigroup.com>
>subscribe rhapsody-dev firstname lastname
>
>Rhapsody User Interface Discussion
><rhapsody-ui@lightbulb.com>
>(subject) subscribe
>
>Rhapsody Database Discussion
><rhapsody-db@lightbulb.com>
>(subject) subscribe
>
>WebObjects Discussion
><listproc@omnigroup.com>
>(body) subscribe webobjects firstname lastname
>
>Rhapsody Jobs Mailing List
><majordomo@ensuing.com>
>(body) subscribe rhapjobs
>
>Newsgroups:
>
>USENET
>
>[Note: There are several NeXT newsgroups but only the three below are
>getting Rhapsody traffic. Until Apple releases a product name for their
>new operating system and new newsgroups are created, the NeXT groups will
>be the best source for information.]
>
>comp.sys.next.advocacy
>comp.sys.next.announce
>comp.sys.next.misc
>
>comp.sys.mac.advocacy
>
>USENET II
>
>net.computers.os.unix.rhapsody
>
>IRC:
>
>#RhapsodyOS
>on any EFNet IRC Server
>
>ABOUT THE RHAPSODY REPORT
>--------------------------
>
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>Yellow Box news, software releases, rumors, Internet resources and related
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>
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From: Oz Trad <kahuna@tstonramp.com>
Subject: (cww) 3Dfx Frame grab
Date: 31 May 1998 21:12:51 -0700

Greetings,
Anyone know how to do a 3Dfx frame grab? I myself dont have a 3Dfx card but
some of my squaddies do. A frame grab using 'snapz pro' just takes a black
screen. Any ideas anyone?

Major Oz 'Kahuna' Trad, Information Officer
VMFA-323rd Cougars, "We Fight as One"
http://www.tstonramp.com/~kahuna/index2.html