From: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com (dr-digest) To: dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: dr-digest V1 #43 Reply-To: dr-digest Sender: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk dr-digest Friday, February 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 043 (dr) Tank bags RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change Re: (dr) Tank bags RE: (dr) Tank bags Re: (dr) Tank bags RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change RE: (dr) Tank bags Re: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:58:11 -0500 From: "G. McCumby" Subject: (dr) Tank bags Is there a tank bag that will work on a DR-650? Would have to accommodate the vented gas cap. Jerry McCumby '00 DR-650 - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:50:17 GMT From: baglien@access1.net Subject: RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change If you're looking for a performance hop up... take a look at the White Bro's 441 kit. My bike (when I've got the carb tuned :^) is a wheelie monster... and it accelerates great in mid-range too (my KTM 440 still makes it look like it is standing still) but the DR has a lot more power than I was expecting. - -Steve >Wayne, > >I've got a '99 DR350SE and I don't think I'm expecting much from it at all. > The bike is relegated to trail duty and road use is very limited. At the >risk of sounding like a broken record... Highway use is not my intention. > I "rarely" ride the bike on roads posted > 55mph. For "me" the DR350 is >just not a fun bike to ride on those roadways. However, it is a gas to >take into the woods or down a fireroad and I do that as much as possible. > >Don't read to much into the "pre-planning" statement I made, I've been >riding for the last 20 years most of it on the road and usually around >8-10k miles (not on the DR) a year...not much in some books, a boat load in >others, and in Illinois it's huge...add that mileage into my box mileage >and I come close to 45k miles per year of road driving and I'm pretty >confident in my "good driver" ability. > >To clarify what "I" meant about pre-planning, even dropping down into 3rd >or 4th gear to allow for increased acceleration, at 60mph very little is >left in the bike. My '82 Volvo 240 could out accelerate the DR350 at this >speed...and that car is a slug. When passing another vehicle I prefer the >ability to get around it as quickly as is possible allowing me the ability >to get out of the way of any potential oncoming traffic. My VTR does this >quite well, my 911sc does this quite well and my Dodge Caravan does it >marginally well. The DR350 and the Volvo are poor examples of vehicles >with passing power :). This problem is further exacerbated when you are >forced to follow some monkey putting along at 45mph in a 55mph zone while >waiting for a "clear" passing zone to appear. > >When I said "maybe it is just me" I was referring to my inability to grab a >handful of throttle and experience a nice wheel stand....and I'll be the >first to claim spode status when riding in the dirt. > > >Eric (can you tell I've got time on my hands today) Myers > >Got yer helmet on? Good I wanna try something. > >Wayne Marsula Wrote: > >Eric, > I don't remember which DR you have, but with my SE and 250 pounds >riding weight, I think you would need to go to the 13 tooth countershaft >sprocket to do this: >> As I've conveyed, my biggest gripe is "my" inability to loft the front >tire >> easily to clear small objects, holes, small logs or just for the fun of >it. > >>The times I've taken it out onto the roads and >> rambled along at 60mph I was bummed with the lack of ability to pass cars >> trundling along at 55mph without a good deal of pre-planning. > > At 60 with the stock 43/15 you could go all the way down to third gear >for passing. However, fourth would be well on the torque curve, and >since you wouldn't need two extra shifts (one down and one up) it may be >even better. With the 43/13 60 mph would be around 6200 rpm, way up on >the torque. Fourth would be as far as you would want to shift down to, >and that would be at around 8400 rpm and wouldn't gain you anything. 5th >would be about 7000 rpm and the torque is already falling off, so you >may not gain anything there either. > > >- > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > - ------------This message was sent using Access1 Mail! http://www.access1.net - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:43:02 -0800 From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change MY DR435,runs off and leaves a KTM 500, but it has a Vortex Airbox....Jesse - -----Original Message----- From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of baglien@access1.net Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:50 AM To: dr@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change If you're looking for a performance hop up... take a look at the White Bro's 441 kit. My bike (when I've got the carb tuned :^) is a wheelie monster... and it accelerates great in mid-range too (my KTM 440 still makes it look like it is standing still) but the DR has a lot more power than I was expecting. - -Steve >Wayne, > >I've got a '99 DR350SE and I don't think I'm expecting much from it at all. > The bike is relegated to trail duty and road use is very limited. At the >risk of sounding like a broken record... Highway use is not my intention. > I "rarely" ride the bike on roads posted > 55mph. For "me" the DR350 is >just not a fun bike to ride on those roadways. However, it is a gas to >take into the woods or down a fireroad and I do that as much as possible. > >Don't read to much into the "pre-planning" statement I made, I've been >riding for the last 20 years most of it on the road and usually around >8-10k miles (not on the DR) a year...not much in some books, a boat load in >others, and in Illinois it's huge...add that mileage into my box mileage >and I come close to 45k miles per year of road driving and I'm pretty >confident in my "good driver" ability. > >To clarify what "I" meant about pre-planning, even dropping down into 3rd >or 4th gear to allow for increased acceleration, at 60mph very little is >left in the bike. My '82 Volvo 240 could out accelerate the DR350 at this >speed...and that car is a slug. When passing another vehicle I prefer the >ability to get around it as quickly as is possible allowing me the ability >to get out of the way of any potential oncoming traffic. My VTR does this >quite well, my 911sc does this quite well and my Dodge Caravan does it >marginally well. The DR350 and the Volvo are poor examples of vehicles >with passing power :). This problem is further exacerbated when you are >forced to follow some monkey putting along at 45mph in a 55mph zone while >waiting for a "clear" passing zone to appear. > >When I said "maybe it is just me" I was referring to my inability to grab a >handful of throttle and experience a nice wheel stand....and I'll be the >first to claim spode status when riding in the dirt. > > >Eric (can you tell I've got time on my hands today) Myers > >Got yer helmet on? Good I wanna try something. > >Wayne Marsula Wrote: > >Eric, > I don't remember which DR you have, but with my SE and 250 pounds >riding weight, I think you would need to go to the 13 tooth countershaft >sprocket to do this: >> As I've conveyed, my biggest gripe is "my" inability to loft the front >tire >> easily to clear small objects, holes, small logs or just for the fun of >it. > >>The times I've taken it out onto the roads and >> rambled along at 60mph I was bummed with the lack of ability to pass cars >> trundling along at 55mph without a good deal of pre-planning. > > At 60 with the stock 43/15 you could go all the way down to third gear >for passing. However, fourth would be well on the torque curve, and >since you wouldn't need two extra shifts (one down and one up) it may be >even better. With the 43/13 60 mph would be around 6200 rpm, way up on >the torque. Fourth would be as far as you would want to shift down to, >and that would be at around 8400 rpm and wouldn't gain you anything. 5th >would be about 7000 rpm and the torque is already falling off, so you >may not gain anything there either. > > >- > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > - ------------This message was sent using Access1 Mail! http://www.access1.net - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:54:18 -0800 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (dr) Tank bags Wolfman makes some good tank bags. You can see the Explorer Tank Bag that I stock at.. http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/specialtypacks%20pages/explorer.html Ask Kurt about this bag. Fred - ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. McCumby" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:58 AM Subject: (dr) Tank bags > > Is there a tank bag that will work on a DR-650? Would have to > accommodate the vented gas cap. > Jerry McCumby > '00 DR-650 > > > - > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:07:14 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: RE: (dr) Tank bags > Wolfman makes some good tank bags. You can see the Explorer Tank Bag that I > stock at.. > http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/specialtypacks%20pages/explorer.html > Ask Kurt about this bag. > > Fred George, the Wolman Explorer has a tremendous reputation among the BMW GS crowd. I just received mine from Fred and it is a very impressive item. I have the IMS tank and Corbin seat on my bike and it looks like it is going to fit perfectly. I'll let you know more in about a week when the bike gets put back together. Rumor mill. DualStar has a Y2K DR650 in their shop and they're measuring it for a centerstand, exhaust guard, and some of their other great goodies.... Kurt - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:09:23 -0700 From: "Shayne Seefeldt" Subject: Re: (dr) Tank bags mmmmmmmm............center stand. Shayne "Homer" Seefeldt. By the way, is there a DR web ring like the klr ring? I'm working on my own web page. - ---------- >From: "Kurt Simpson" >To: "Fred Hink" , "G. McCumby" , >Subject: RE: (dr) Tank bags >Date: Fri, Feb 18, 2000, 10:07 AM > > Rumor mill. DualStar has a Y2K DR650 in their shop and they're measuring it for a > centerstand, exhaust guard, and some of their other great goodies.... - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: john miller Subject: RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change If the stock airbox chokes a stock 350 then a 441 would be strangled.AAHHH to breath life into a motor with a vortex airbox the more you mod the motor the bigger the gains from the box.Jesse wont brag that much about the box(maybe modest) but I will.It's still the best bang for the buck as far as power adders go. - --- "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" wrote: > MY DR435,runs off and leaves a KTM 500, but it has a > Vortex Airbox....Jesse > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On > Behalf Of baglien@access1.net > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:50 AM > To: dr@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change > > > If you're looking for a performance hop up... take a > look at the White Bro's > 441 kit. My bike (when I've got the carb tuned :^) > is a wheelie > monster... > and it accelerates great in mid-range too (my KTM > 440 still makes it look > like > it is standing still) but the DR has a lot more > power than I was expecting. > > > -Steve > > >Wayne, > > >> > > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and > old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in > your message. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:40:25 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: RE: (dr) Tank bags I think you're the one to start it (g)... Kurt > -----Original Message----- > From: Shayne Seefeldt [mailto:seefeldt@telusplanet.net] > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 11:09 AM > To: Kurt Simpson > Cc: DR List > Subject: Re: (dr) Tank bags > > > mmmmmmmm............center stand. > > > Shayne "Homer" Seefeldt. > > > By the way, is there a DR web ring like the klr ring? I'm working on my own > web page. > > > > ---------- > >From: "Kurt Simpson" > >To: "Fred Hink" , "G. McCumby" , > > >Subject: RE: (dr) Tank bags > >Date: Fri, Feb 18, 2000, 10:07 AM > > > > > Rumor mill. DualStar has a Y2K DR650 in their shop and they're measuring it > for a > > centerstand, exhaust guard, and some of their other great goodies.... > - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:44:48 -0600 From: "Steve and Janet" Subject: Re: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change I agree that the air box would constrict air flow... so the one on the bike has been modified... that is, it has no top. What advantages does the vortex box have over... um, virtually no air box at all? Jesse... if you come down to GA and tune my bike for me... I'll race ya! :^) >If the stock airbox chokes a stock 350 then a 441 >would be strangled.AAHHH to breath life into a motor >with a vortex airbox the more you mod the motor the >bigger the gains from the box.Jesse wont brag that >much about the box(maybe modest) but I will.It's still >the best bang for the buck as far as power adders go. > >--- "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" >wrote: >> MY DR435,runs off and leaves a KTM 500, but it has a >> Vortex Airbox....Jesse >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com >> [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On >> Behalf Of baglien@access1.net >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:50 AM >> To: dr@lists.xmission.com >> Subject: RE: (dr) (DR350) Gearing Change >> >> >> If you're looking for a performance hop up... take a >> look at the White Bro's >> 441 kit. My bike (when I've got the carb tuned :^) >> is a wheelie >> monster... >> and it accelerates great in mid-range too (my KTM >> 440 still makes it look >> like >> it is standing still) but the DR has a lot more >> power than I was expecting. >> >> >> -Steve >> >> >Wayne, >> > >>> >> > >with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. >> For information on digests or retrieving files and >> old messages send >> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in >> your message. >> >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >- > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. 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