From: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com (dr-digest) To: dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: dr-digest V1 #117 Reply-To: dr-digest Sender: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk dr-digest Tuesday, April 25 2000 Volume 01 : Number 117 Re: (dr) Gearing and online shopping RE: (dr) Jetting advice... (dr) Sanity Check Re: (dr) Sanity Check (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? RE: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? Re: (dr) Sanity Check Re: (dr) GPS q's ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:27:02 -0700 From: Brian Bucknam Subject: Re: (dr) Gearing and online shopping At 9:02 AM -0400 4/25/00, William C. Mitchell wonders: >BTW, does anyone know of reliable online ordering sources for gears, rims, >helmets, clothing,,,etc? Among other things, I'm looking for a good, summer >weight, high visibility yellow, riding jacket. The ultimate hi-vis, good protection, waterproof riding jacket would be an Aerostich Darien, or the top of a 2-piece roadcrafter. It has lots of effective vents for warm weather, too. See: http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store Helmets are a little difficult to buy online -- unless you're replacing one with the exact same model, you should really try them on to ensure a good fit. For other stuff, the cheapest place is http://www.accwhse.com/ They're not the most reliable, but they usually get it right. Brian - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brian Bucknam squid@theracetrack.com - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:37:03 -0700 From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr) Jetting advice... Ok Guy, Here we go again, Just kidding. This is fun for me first I am assuming that this is totally stock, exhaust etc. you say you removed the snorkel you mean the rubber intake on top of the airbox with the nice flow enhancing radius on it so that you can get more air into the airbox through the none radiusd slightly enlarged hole with the square edges. This will not help but will hinder the flow. If you want more flow you just cut the whole top out starting at 1/2 inch back from the mounting brackets and cut a 3x4 inch opening this will give you about all you can get from the stock airbox. Then you remove the large screen from the intake boot. Now for the carb on the bottom front you have the fuel mixture screw for the idle circuit that is under a brass plug with a small hole in it carefully drill out the brass plug now you have access to your fuel mixture screw this controls the amount of fuel that feeds the idle circuit. Adjust this until you get the highest rpms then drop the rpms with the throttle stop to mfr's specs. Install a 140 main jet and get a jx needle and spring from Thumper Racing and put the clip in the fourth groove down on the needle. This should help the starting and give you a little more boost for little $$ Regards, Jesse Kientz http://www.kientech.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Comobu@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 11:34 AM To: dr@lists.xmission.com Subject: (dr) Jetting advice... Sorry.. never paid attention to the jetting posts but now own a 90 DR350S... I'll remove the airbox snorkel, it's got a Uni foam airfilter, stock exhaust...it needs a lot of choke on days that aren't even cold out.. so what main, pilot, slide spring? change should I make.. Sorry again, I'm sure everyone sick of seeing jetting posts.. Guy - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:21:11 -0400 From: "Gary Douglas" Subject: (dr) Sanity Check This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFAE19.DE68F8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I've figured out what the odd metallic r-r-r-r-appp is on = acceleration and high revs with my '99 DR350. It a vibration coming from = the gas tank! It's the strangest sound, and I've been trying to figure = it out as I ride. Bike has 2,000 well maintained miles, and I just = changed oil/filter/plug/adjusted timing/cleaned air filter, etc. I was = experimenting with slightly different riding positions on-road, and I = found that when I was way forward with my knees squeezing in on the tank = that the vibrations perfectly matched the sound when it occurred. I = could alter the sound a little bit by squeezing in on the tank. I am = going to remove the tank and check all the rubber mounting cushions, and = maybe experiment with tightening or loosening the bolts. I don't know = what else to do other than a plastic tank, which is a possibility = anyways. I hit reserve the other day after 75 miles! Anyone else = have/notice that sound? Gary Douglas So. Burlington, VT (It stopped raining and hit 50 degrees today! Whoo-hoo! Summer!) - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFAE19.DE68F8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think I've figured out what the odd = metallic=20 r-r-r-r-appp is on acceleration and high revs with my '99 DR350. It a = vibration=20 coming from the gas tank! It's the strangest sound, and I've been trying = to=20 figure it out as I ride. Bike has 2,000 well maintained miles, and I = just=20 changed oil/filter/plug/adjusted timing/cleaned air filter, etc. I was=20 experimenting with slightly different riding positions on-road, and = I =20 found that when I was way forward with my knees squeezing in on the tank = that=20 the vibrations perfectly matched the sound when it occurred. I could = alter the=20 sound a little bit by squeezing in on the tank. I am going to remove the = tank=20 and check all the rubber mounting cushions, and maybe experiment with = tightening=20 or loosening the bolts. I don't know what else to do other than a = plastic=20 tank, which is a possibility anyways. I hit reserve the other day after = 75=20 miles! Anyone else have/notice that sound?
    Gary = Douglas
    So. Burlington, = VT
    (It stopped raining = and hit 50=20 degrees today! Whoo-hoo! Summer!)
- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFAE19.DE68F8A0-- - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:37:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john miller Subject: Re: (dr) Sanity Check I had a noise also on hard acceleration and it was my clutch lever rattling around in the perch.Silly but it had me going for a bit. I think I've figured out what the odd metallic > r-r-r-r-appp is on acceleration and high revs with > my '99 DR350. It a vibration coming from the gas > tank! ! > Anyone else have/notice that sound? > Gary Douglas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:10:37 -0500 From: Oliver Block Subject: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? Hi, I apologize for this very basic question, but why did Suzuki choose that airbox design (on the DR350s) if it is so incredibly restrictive? Is there a downside to cutting the top off the airbox? Every person I know who has had their DR for a while has upgraded to the Cycle Gear or Vortec airbox, so why didn't Suzuki buy the rights to those designs a long time ago and incorporate it into the stock bike? Obviously I am totally ignorant as to how the after-market industry and bike manufacturers interact - if anyone out there has a minute to inform me I'd greatly appreciate it. As always, thanks for your time and your patience with a beginner. - -Oliver `1995 DR350SE - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Moon Subject: Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? I believe it is because water can easily enter the carb through the airbox if one cuts holes in it or uses a vortex airbox. That's why mine is going to sealed back up with tape as the original owner cut it up. by the way, anyone have a stock airbox that will fit a 92 DR350S that they would like to be rid of? Jon - --- Oliver Block wrote: > Hi, > I apologize for this very basic question, but why did Suzuki > choose that airbox design (on the DR350s) if it is so incredibly > restrictive? Is there a downside to cutting the top off the airbox? > Every person I know who has had their DR for a while has upgraded to > the Cycle Gear or Vortec airbox, so why didn't Suzuki buy the rights > to those designs a long time ago and incorporate it into the stock > bike? Obviously I am totally ignorant as to how the after-market > industry and bike manufacturers interact - if anyone out there has a > minute to inform me I'd greatly appreciate it. > > As always, thanks for your time and your patience with a beginner. > > -Oliver > `1995 DR350SE > > - > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > ===== Jonathan L. Moon Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology University of Georgia Voice (706)-542-1713 Fax (706)-542-3719 email: jlmoon@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:34:46 -0700 From: "Greg Lara" Subject: RE: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? I expect that Suzuki constructed that airbox as they did in order to meet the noise limit requirements for certifying the DR350 as street legal. - --Greg - -----Original Message----- From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Oliver Block Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 4:11 PM To: dr@lists.xmission.com Subject: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? Hi, I apologize for this very basic question, but why did Suzuki choose that airbox design (on the DR350s) if it is so incredibly restrictive? Is there a downside to cutting the top off the airbox? Every person I know who has had their DR for a while has upgraded to the Cycle Gear or Vortec airbox, so why didn't Suzuki buy the rights to those designs a long time ago and incorporate it into the stock bike? Obviously I am totally ignorant as to how the after-market industry and bike manufacturers interact - if anyone out there has a minute to inform me I'd greatly appreciate it. As always, thanks for your time and your patience with a beginner. - -Oliver `1995 DR350SE - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:37:13 -0700 From: Jeff Corsaro Subject: Re: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? They have emissions and sound regulations they have to conform too to sell bikes in America, Japan and Europe. Especially for California models. That is the primary reason, the air box and muffler is so restrictive. Jeff Corsaro in San Diego > From: Oliver Block > Reply-To: Oliver Block > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:10:37 -0500 > To: dr@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (dr) Why does Suzuki make the stock airbox like that? > > Hi, > I apologize for this very basic question, but why did Suzuki > choose that airbox design (on the DR350s) if it is so incredibly > restrictive? Is there a downside to cutting the top off the airbox? > Every person I know who has had their DR for a while has upgraded to > the Cycle Gear or Vortec airbox, so why didn't Suzuki buy the rights > to those designs a long time ago and incorporate it into the stock > bike? Obviously I am totally ignorant as to how the after-market > industry and bike manufacturers interact - if anyone out there has a > minute to inform me I'd greatly appreciate it. > > As always, thanks for your time and your patience with a beginner. > > -Oliver > `1995 DR350SE > > - > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:46:46 +0200 From: Rainer.Knape.SGG@t-online.de (Rainer Knape) Subject: Re: (dr) Sanity Check Gary, I had the same sound with my old DR 600. Made me very nervous until I found that it was just the tank (when not full), especially because it was there overnight ! I got used to it. Rainer > Anyone else have/notice that sound? Gary Douglas - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:29:41 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (dr) GPS q's > > If you have no batteries in the GPS, it might shut off but I doubt it. Be >> sure to tape your batteries together (one strip of black electrical tape, >> lengthwise). > >Why? Due to vibration, your batteries jump apart thousands of times. Each time they jump apart, they spark. With each spark, there is a little black oxide buildup. Eventually this buildup causes resistance, and even though your batteries are not dead, the GPS can't get enough power to run. So you will go thru batteries quickly. This is most often the cause of the dreaded "shutdown". Taping the batteries together reduces the sparking, and the thickness of the tape makes the batteries fir more snug in the case. Make sure whatever you stick to the batteries doesn't prevent you from shaking them out. See http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/gps_batteries.html for more description and some photos. Also there is a risk to the GPS itself due to vibration. We 'harden' the electronics in the III+ for motorcycle use. This is most important for single cylinder or other rough engines. See http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/gps_vmod.html Highly adviseable that you wire the GPS direct in to your 12v. An option for dirt bikes is to power it with a battery from a Makita (or eequivalent) cordless drill. Any electronics attached to a motorcycle requires special considerations. Especially single-cylinder or hi-rpm. Probably no worries on the Concours. A motorcycle is a really fun application for GPS, and we think we've got it figured out. Tom - -- +-------------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products | 701 34th Ave | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | | Design/Manufacture of Motorcycling Accessories | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com/mc | e-mail: moto@cycoactive.com | tel (206) 323-2349 fax (206) 325-6016 +-------------------------------------------+ - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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