From: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com (dr-digest) To: dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: dr-digest V1 #181 Reply-To: dr-digest Sender: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-dr-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk dr-digest Thursday, June 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 181 RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox /Pre-ignition RE: (dr) surgy around 4000rpm Re: (dr) Jetting / Airbox /Pre-ignition RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox /Pre-ignition (dr) DR350 footpegs... (dr) lost bolts on 350 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:24:09 +0100 From: "Copsey, Stephen J (Steve)" Subject: RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox /Pre-ignition Hi Jesse, fellow DR owners, In the UK we can only use 95 octane. My plug is black round the outside edge on the threaded part, electrodes brown and central insulator creamy coloured (not hot white). How does that sound ? Went out last night and no pinking evident. I can shut the choke off immediately it starts so it isn't running lean I'm sure. The bike runs superbly it must be said. My needle has 5CD27 on it and was at fourth notch from new (is this normal?). Can anyone tell me what the pilot is set at from the factory on a 98 electric start with the 127.5 main ? I'm at about two turns out at the moment. Anyone with the magic button will know its impossible to tweak the pilot with the engine running as there is just no space to get any kind of tool in there and turn it - has anyone found a way ?? So, a few questions which I would be very grateful if any of you good folk could help with ! Thanks Steve > ---------- > From: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com[SMTP:jesse@rvi.net] > Sent: 19 June 2000 16:51 > To: Copsey, Stephen J (Steve); 'd r' > Subject: RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox > > Hi Steve, are you running 91/93 octane fuel? the fourth groove down should > work well with the stock needle. also a 140 main jet "Mikuni brand" . Are > you running the stock sparkplug heat range? and what color is it? White , > Brown or black? > > Regards, > Jesse Kientz > http://www.kientech.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On > Behalf Of Copsey, Stephen J (Steve) > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 7:55 AM > To: 'd r' > Subject: (dr) Jetting / Airbox > > > Well, almost got the jetting right now. > > Raised the needle from position four (standard setting) to the bottom > (5th) > which reduced the pre-ignition greatly. However it still does it a bit > even > though I'm now on a 142.5 main which didn't really improve the pinking > from > the 137.5 (or performance). > > So do I need to get a different (smaller?) needle jet to fix the > pre-ignition completely ? > > Thanks for any ideas > > Steve > DR350S '98 > > - > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:10:27 -0700 From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr) surgy around 4000rpm Hi Jonathon, First the cobra pipe is very difficult to jet where everything is perfect in all areas of the throttle range so I cannot recommend it, It is less expensive than the rest but you know what they say you get what you pay for I had one when I first got my DR back in 1990 and finally pitched it after three years of trying to get it right. With your DR/S the main should be 137.5 or 140 with the top out of the airbox the jx needle from Thumper Racing would also be a good option. place the clip in the fourth groove down. This should help the situation. The supertrapp isd is a better option or the EAR than the Cobra Just my opinion. Regards, Jesse Kientz http://www.kientech.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Moon Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 9:18 AM To: dr list Subject: (dr) surgy around 4000rpm My 92 DR350S has a hesitation/surge problem when opening the throttle around 4000 rpm. Stock pipe, airbox top cut out by previous owner, drain and spark arrestor screws in pipe missing (also previous owner). Advice? Also, does anyone have experience with the Cobra pipe being too loud for these organized dual sport rides? My cousin has one and it doesn't seem too bad... Jon ===== Jonathan L. Moon Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology University of Georgia Voice (706)-542-1713 Fax (706)-542-3719 email: jlmoon@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:23:15 -0500 From: Dave Calligan Subject: Re: (dr) Jetting / Airbox /Pre-ignition I believe that they use different methods for calculating octane rating UK vs USA Dave "Copsey, Stephen J (Steve)" wrote: > Hi Jesse, fellow DR owners, > > In the UK we can only use 95 octane. My plug is black round the outside edge > on the threaded part, electrodes brown and central insulator creamy coloured > (not hot white). How does that sound ? > > Went out last night and no pinking evident. I can shut the choke off > immediately it starts so it isn't running lean I'm sure. The bike runs > superbly it must be said. > > My needle has 5CD27 on it and was at fourth notch from new (is this > normal?). Can anyone tell me what the pilot is set at from the factory on a > 98 electric start with the 127.5 main ? I'm at about two turns out at the > moment. Anyone with the magic button will know its impossible to tweak the > pilot with the engine running as there is just no space to get any kind of > tool in there and turn it - has anyone found a way ?? > > So, a few questions which I would be very grateful if any of you good folk > could help with ! > > Thanks > > Steve > > > ---------- > > From: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com[SMTP:jesse@rvi.net] > > Sent: 19 June 2000 16:51 > > To: Copsey, Stephen J (Steve); 'd r' > > Subject: RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox > > > > Hi Steve, are you running 91/93 octane fuel? the fourth groove down should > > work well with the stock needle. also a 140 main jet "Mikuni brand" . Are > > you running the stock sparkplug heat range? and what color is it? White , > > Brown or black? > > > > Regards, > > Jesse Kientz > > http://www.kientech.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On > > Behalf Of Copsey, Stephen J (Steve) > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 7:55 AM > > To: 'd r' > > Subject: (dr) Jetting / Airbox > > > > > > Well, almost got the jetting right now. > > > > Raised the needle from position four (standard setting) to the bottom > > (5th) > > which reduced the pre-ignition greatly. However it still does it a bit > > even > > though I'm now on a 142.5 main which didn't really improve the pinking > > from > > the 137.5 (or performance). > > > > So do I need to get a different (smaller?) needle jet to fix the > > pre-ignition completely ? > > > > Thanks for any ideas > > > > Steve > > DR350S '98 > > > > - > > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > > - > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:48:18 -0700 From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox /Pre-ignition Regards, Jesse Kientz http://www.kientech.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Copsey, Stephen J (Steve) Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:24 AM To: 'd r' Subject: RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox /Pre-ignition Hi Jesse, fellow DR owners, In the UK we can only use 95 octane. My plug is black round the outside edge on the threaded part, electrodes brown and central insulator creamy coloured (not hot white). How does that sound ? This sounds very close to Ideal. Went out last night and no pinking evident. I can shut the choke off immediately it starts so it isn't running lean I'm sure. The bike runs superbly it must be said. My needle has 5CD27 on it and was at fourth notch from new (is this normal?) This is not normal in the US there is only one groove on the needle on the US Dual purpose bikes so we have to go to the jx needle that Thumper Racing sells to get a needle with 5 grooves. I recommend the fourth groove down with the airbox modification . Can anyone tell me what the pilot is set at from the factory on a 98 electric start with the 127.5 main ? I'm at about two turns out at the moment. (Most of them are set at 1 turn to 1 & 1/8 turns out and there is a plug over the pilot screw that has to be drilled out for access.) Anyone with the magic button will know its impossible to tweak the pilot with the engine running as there is just no space to get any kind of tool in there and turn it - has anyone found a way ?? (Yes the Tee handle that takes the place of your pilot screw another item from Thumper racing) So, a few questions which I would be very grateful if any of you good folk could help with ! Thanks Steve > ---------- > From: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com[SMTP:jesse@rvi.net] > Sent: 19 June 2000 16:51 > To: Copsey, Stephen J (Steve); 'd r' > Subject: RE: (dr) Jetting / Airbox > > Hi Steve, are you running 91/93 octane fuel? the fourth groove down should > work well with the stock needle. also a 140 main jet "Mikuni brand" . Are > you running the stock sparkplug heat range? and what color is it? White , > Brown or black? > > Regards, > Jesse Kientz > http://www.kientech.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On > Behalf Of Copsey, Stephen J (Steve) > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 7:55 AM > To: 'd r' > Subject: (dr) Jetting / Airbox > > > Well, almost got the jetting right now. > > Raised the needle from position four (standard setting) to the bottom > (5th) > which reduced the pre-ignition greatly. However it still does it a bit > even > though I'm now on a 142.5 main which didn't really improve the pinking > from > the 137.5 (or performance). > > So do I need to get a different (smaller?) needle jet to fix the > pre-ignition completely ? > > Thanks for any ideas > > Steve > DR350S '98 > > - > to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:02:02 EDT From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr) DR350 footpegs... Jeff if you're still out there...and Jesse... Did I remember right... you guys were going to post pictures of custom footpegs that were rearset 1"? it looks like it will take some creative welding but seems with Jimmy Button High bars and pegs back an inch would open up the cockpit for riders 6' and up! Jeff, still got a Cobra pipe? Guy - - to unsubscribe to dr, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe dr" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:16:39 -0700 From: "Doug B" Subject: (dr) lost bolts on 350 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFDD4F.F2079000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last Weekend I took my newly acquired 1997 DR 350SE for it's maiden voyage. I had fun, but the bike did not fair to well. I have had to spend about $25.00 (plus $12.00 for 2nd day freight) to replace all the bolts and parts that fell out and got lost while riding. I've tried bolts from the hardware store, but the threads are very low quality, so I prefer to get OEM bolts. A word to the wise, use some sort of thread locking compound on every bolt that you frequently remove during normal maintenance, because it will surely loosen up and fall out while riding. I had learned this lesson on my 94 model, but all the bolts I lost on the 97 were bolts I never had problems with on the 94. I sold the 94 350SE yesterday, and am going to enjoy the 97 since it has far fewer miles on it. This weekend I am heading to Lake Wenatchee (Washington) for a Dual Sport event on Sunday. My next event is the King of Dual Sport events in the Pacific Northwest, the Black Dog, a 2 day event near Mt Hood Oregon. It is July 8 and 9. E-mail me if you'd like details on it. They are also having a street touring ride this year at the event. Oh, I finally got my GPS III+ mounted up on the bike. I used it over the weekend and love it!! I ventured way up into the hills and rode some Jeep trails. I would never have ventured as far out as I did in an unfamiliar area if I didn't have the GPS. I loaded maps into it using Garmin's Map Source TOPO cds. Most of the trails I rode showed up on the GPS maps. I owe a great deal of thanks to all the people who provided me with their advice, tips and experiences regarding GPS units. 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