From: Wagner David Subject: AW: (dr350) clutch slippage Date: 01 Dec 1999 09:15:22 +0100 > I rode my bike today and noticed the clutch slipping > when it was cold.This was the coldest weather I have > yet to ride my DR in(35deg).I use the Castrol full > synth oil.Is it normal for a clutch to slip when it's > really cold(the air and motor temp both cold)?It got > better as the bike warmed up to oper. temp. This week I drove my bike at low temperature (-5 C Celsius). No slipping at all. But what I realised is, if you start the bike and then put in the first gear, it can happen that the motor dies. I think this is because of the cold oil. But this is no problem if I use a little more gas when I put in the first gear. If you have problems with a slipping cluch only in cold weather, it is probably the "wrong" oil. By the way. When I drove, the seat was full of ice, not easy to remove it. So, does someone have any experience with a seat heater? I've found only one source of information on the net under http://www.saddlemen.com/seatheaters.html Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andy.doyle@bt.com Subject: RE: (dr350) clutch slippage Date: 01 Dec 1999 08:50:39 -0000 My clutch started slipping when cold about this time last year. 12 months and 13000 miles later it's just starting to noticeably slip when warmed up, so you don't have an urgent problem! I assume the cable is adjusted correctly? I think someone on the list said RM250 plates fit, so I guess I'll be doing that soon. Andy '96 DR350SES Old Git in the UK > -----Original Message----- > From: john miller [SMTP:weekendtoy98dr@yahoo.com] > Sent: 01 December 1999 02:35 > To: dr350@lists.xmission.com > Cc: DR LIST > Subject: (dr350) clutch slippage > > I rode my bike today and noticed the clutch slipping > when it was cold.This was the coldest weather I have > yet to ride my DR in(35deg).I use the Castrol full > synth oil.Is it normal for a clutch to slip when it's > really cold(the air and motor temp both cold)?It got > better as the bike warmed up to oper. temp. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Fork swap... Date: 01 Dec 1999 12:23:14 EST Someone @ a salvage yard told me 87 Honda 43mm cartridge forks were the best for their time... anyone know if they are swappable into a DR??? Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CGUBERA@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Fork swap... Date: 01 Dec 1999 12:44:41 EST In a message dated 12/1/99 10:24:15 AM, Comobu@aol.com writes: << Someone @ a salvage yard told me 87 Honda 43mm cartridge forks were the best for their time... anyone know if they are swappable into a DR??? Guy >> With enough time and money (and a good machine shop) you can get anything to fit! I would recommend calling JN innovations in Hayward CA. John has done numerous fork swaps including YZ250 forks on his XR600 and he has a machine shop next door to his shop. 510-783-5332 www.jni.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hlamar@wfubmc.edu (Heston LaMar) Subject: (dr350) plastic gas tank? Date: 01 Dec 1999 09:35:00 -0500 Thinking about buying a plastic tank for my 94 350SE. Anyone had trouble getting dual sport models inspected w/ a plastic tank (i.e., have to run a metal tank in NC to pass state inspection)? Anyone, have recs on a particular brand to avoid or buy? I don't necessarily need a supertanker. I more or less just don't like the look of my metal tank & want a plain white plastic one. Would buying a Suzuki dirt model tank be a better deal? Thanks, Heston 94 350SE Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Miller" Subject: (dr350) clutch drags Date: 01 Dec 1999 20:05:28 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF3C37.69AEE280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 98 DR350 that had 98 miles on it when I bought it. I love the = bike and have about 400 miles of off road use on it now. My problem is = that the clutch drags when hot or cold. Finding neutral when stopped is = impossible. If I am in first gear on level ground the bike will inch = forward with the clutch pulled all the way in. Any suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF3C37.69AEE280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a 98 DR350 that had 98 miles on = it when I=20 bought it.  I love the bike and have about 400 miles of off road = use on it=20 now.  My problem is that the clutch drags when hot or cold.  = Finding=20 neutral when stopped is impossible.  If I am in first gear on level = ground=20 the bike will inch forward with the clutch pulled all the way in. Any=20 suggestions?
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF3C37.69AEE280-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Kouba Subject: Re: (dr350) clutch drags Date: 01 Dec 1999 20:51:37 -0700 --------------302D78C7496889145B07A213 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Miller wrote: > I have a 98 DR350 that had 98 miles on it when I bought it. I love > the bike and have about 400 miles of off road use on it now. My > problem is that the clutch drags when hot or cold. Finding neutral > when stopped is impossible. If I am in first gear on level ground the > bike will inch forward with the clutch pulled all the way in. Any > suggestions? Jim, Assuming the clutch cable adjustment is correct and the clutch arm is on the proper spline, I would check to see if the clutch hub spins freely inside the clutch basket with the clutch plates removed. I have seen more than one DR's clutch drag because the washer behind the basket is too thick. If you want to do the work yourself, I would be glad to walk you through it by phone or E-mail, but you will need at least an air rattle gun or a clutch hub holder, (for removing the clutch hub and basket to file the washer) You may want to check with your local dealer first, as the warranty, even if the 6 months is up but with only that many miles, may cover it. Norm Suzuki DR Suspensions DR. DR http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299 --------------302D78C7496889145B07A213 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

Jim Miller wrote:

I have a 98 DR350 that had 98 miles on it when I bought it.  I love the bike and have about 400 miles of off road use on it now.  My problem is that the clutch drags when hot or cold.  Finding neutral when stopped is impossible.  If I am in first gear on level ground the bike will inch forward with the clutch pulled all the way in. Any suggestions?
Jim,

Assuming the clutch cable adjustment is correct and the clutch arm is on the proper spline, I would check to see if the clutch hub spins freely inside the clutch basket with the clutch plates removed.  I have seen more than one DR's clutch drag because the washer behind the basket is too thick.  If  you want to do the work yourself, I would be glad to walk you through it by phone or E-mail, but you will need at least an air rattle gun or a clutch hub holder, (for removing the clutch hub and basket to file the washer)  You may want to check with your local dealer first, as the warranty, even if the 6 months is up but with only that many miles, may cover it.    Norm

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http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299 --------------302D78C7496889145B07A213-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Warr" Subject: (dr350) Quiet aftermarket exhaust? Date: 01 Dec 1999 21:15:50 -0700 Any suggestions or recommendations for a relatively quiet aftermarket exhaust muffler for the DRS350? Tom Warr Bikermaniac Great Falls, Montana drwarr@montana.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rich Anderson" Subject: (dr350) Baja Designs Kit Problems Date: 02 Dec 1999 04:19:33 GMT Hello, A technical question regarding my recently installed Baja Designs dual sport kit. I recently purchased a 1998 DR 350 dirt model new from the local Suzuki dealer who also installed a Baja Designs Dual Sport Kit to make it street legal. I seem to be having problems with the kit that the dealer can't/won't fix. The conditions I am experiencing are "winking" headlight when the turn indicators or brake lights are turned on, dim headlight at idle, very little sound from the horn, and a tail light that lasts about 30 seconds after power down. The dealer says they have checked the charging system and it is "OK". They could find no problems with the installation of the kit. They recommended a lower watt (from 55 to 35 watts) headlight to reduce battery consumption. I don't like this idea as I often ride at night. Could it be the NiCad never had a proper initial charge and has no life? ----I have some experience with NiCad's and they don't have much ability to hold a charge over time. I am considering installing an auxiliary charging plug to the battery so I can plug it in overnight prior to a ride. What are the charging specs for this battery, ie volts/milliamps? Is there not enough power output on the DR 350 to power the kit properly?------If this is the case it would have been nice to know prior to purchase that it would not work properly. Is a total rewind if the stator necessary to power the kit properly?------I am considering accessories such as heated grips and GPS power, this may be necessary regardless. Anybody have the same or better exerience with a Baja Kit on a dirt DR350? Rich Anderson '98 DR 350 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Corsaro Subject: Re: (dr350) Baja Designs Kit Problems Date: 01 Dec 1999 22:20:09 -0800 Check the two wire and connector (they are yellow and black, and come from the engine) from the magneto to the Baja-Design's regulator. The regulator has a built in circuit to cut the head lamp power when the bike stalls (when voltage drops bellow 9-10 volts across the magneto) so the small sized Ni-Cad battery does not discharge rapidly. That's definitely why your head lamp winks with the turn signals blinking. As you said, it could be the Ni-Cad battery it self, you can check it with a volt meter. There should be 12 volts across the battery with the bike off, and 13-14 volts, 200-500 milliamps when it is running/charging. If the battery is fine, it sounds like the Baja-Designs supplied regulator ($50) or magneto is fried. The resistance on the magneto (Black and Yellow wire) should be 0.1-1.5 ohms. If every thing checks out okay, you can try the 35 watt H4 headlight bulb, and make sure you have 10 watt turns signal bulbs in place of the 21 watt ones. You should not have a problem powering the 55/60 watt stock H4 halogen bulb, since the DR350 magneto is rated at 125 watts/5000 rpms. I would be careful about running high wattage accessories (heated hand grips) since the Ni-Cad battery is only 0.8 amp hour, they will kill the battery in less than 5 minutes if you shut the bike off. You should not have a problem with the GPS, just make sure you use a voltage regulator with the GPS, since the voltage on the baja-designs kit is choppy and fluctuates quite a bit. I would not use a motorcycle battery charger for the small Ni-Cad pack, will over charge them in no time. You can make a charger, as long as it less than 100 mA @ 13-14 volts. I installed a Baja-designs kit on a friends 94 DR350. It worked okay, but not as well has my off-road 99' Yamaha TTR250 with the street junk on it, since the battery on my TT is 7 amp hour and the alternator is a three-phase street bike type. I have heard that most dealers will not touch a bike with a baja-designs kit, since most of the electrical is not stock. If I was to do another street kit on a dirt bike, I would dump the battery and use a zener diode regulator and the electronic AC alternating turn signal flasher found on some European motor scooters that don't use a battery. If you want to run high wattage accessories and have a bright head lamp at idle, you can swap the single phase dirt stator for a 93' or newer DR350S or SE three phase stator and regulator, and make a small battery tray for a small 4 amp hour sealed lead acid battery. Hope that helps, Jeff Corsaro in San Diego Rich Anderson wrote: > Hello, > > A technical question regarding my recently installed Baja Designs dual sport > kit. > > I recently purchased a 1998 DR 350 dirt model new from the local Suzuki dealer > who also installed a Baja Designs Dual Sport Kit to make it street legal. I > seem to be having problems with the kit that the dealer can't/won't fix. The > conditions I am experiencing are "winking" headlight when the turn indicators > or brake lights are turned on, dim headlight at idle, very little sound from > the horn, and a tail light that lasts about 30 seconds after power down. The > dealer says they have checked the charging system and it is "OK". They could > find no problems with the installation of the kit. They recommended a lower > watt (from 55 to 35 watts) headlight to reduce battery consumption. I don't > like this idea as I often ride at night. > > Could it be the NiCad never had a proper initial charge and has no life? ----I > have some experience with NiCad's and they don't have much ability to hold a > charge over time. I am considering installing an auxiliary charging plug to > the battery so I can plug it in overnight prior to a ride. What are the charging > specs for this battery, ie volts/milliamps? > > Is there not enough power output on the DR 350 to power the kit properly?------If > this is the case it would have been nice to know prior to purchase that it would > not work properly. > > Is a total rewind if the stator necessary to power the kit properly?------I > am considering accessories such as heated grips and GPS power, this may be necessary > regardless. > > Anybody have the same or better exerience with a Baja Kit on a dirt DR350? > > Rich Anderson > '98 DR 350 > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Nolastname" Subject: Re: (dr350) Quiet aftermarket exhaust? Date: 02 Dec 1999 05:21:58 PST Tom, the FMF MegamaxII I put on is capable of being "reasonable" if you use the quiet core gizmo they include with it. I'm running it without the quiet core w/ all disks in place w/ washer spacers between the last 4 disks. It is pretty damn loud when you are running WFO, but not too bad idleing or at hiway speeds.....but everything is relative. Another DR guy here in Dallas (Dave Millholland) did to his stock can what I told him I did to my previous XR650L....cut off the end & pulled out the baffle. He even welded the end back on, & was really happy with it. Bryan in Dallas 95 DR350SE >From: "Tom Warr" >Reply-To: "Tom Warr" >To: "350 mail list (E-mail)" >Subject: (dr350) Quiet aftermarket exhaust? >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:15:50 -0700 > >Any suggestions or recommendations for a relatively quiet aftermarket >exhaust muffler for the DRS350? > >Tom Warr Bikermaniac >Great Falls, Montana >drwarr@montana.com > > >Support Dual Sport News with your subscription >http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html >Visit the dr350 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Reed" Subject: (dr350) poor running Date: 02 Dec 1999 13:43:17 -0000 The following letter appeared in the September 1999 edition of UK magazine TBM, it may be of use to some people on the list. Regards Colin 1999 DR350SEX Newcastle, England --------------------- GETTING WIRED Dear TBM I'm writing regarding the letter in last month's issue from Dave Jennings about the problem with his DR350 losing power whilst in second and third gear (between 5-6000rpm). My 1996 DR350SET had exactly the same problem which I believe was caused by the emission control feature on the DR which basically retards the ignition timing, causing the severe loss of power described. The solution which was supplied by my local Suzuki dealer in Folkstone (Alfords), was to simply disconnect two of the three wires coming from the gearbox gear position indicator. The two wires disconnected on my DR were the red/black and green/blue ones which go to a separate connector under the left side panel. The third wire (blue) should not be touched as this is the neutral indicator wire. This has totally cured the problem with my DR which is used for trail riding and tackling the odd trail bike rally. Great mag, keep it coming. Neil Smith Romney Marsh, Kent. Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jessekientz Subject: Re: (dr350) Fork swap... Date: 02 Dec 1999 09:05:10 -0800 Hi Guy, I used a set of forks off of an 87 rm which are cartrige forks and they were superior to the stock dr forks (90-93) I had to change the wheel bearings due to the larger axle, plus alter the spacers a little. It would be best to get the front wheel assy. with the forks to make a direct interchange right into your stock triple clamps. Now I am using a set of 45mm marzocci forks (conventional) that were off of a 95 CR250 I just pressed out the stem and pressed in the DR stem and they work fine. I had to get the honda brake carrier to match up with my DR caliper though which you might have to do if you go with the honda forks. If you have any further questions about this feel free to contact me. regards Jesse http://kientech.com Comobu@aol.com wrote: > > Someone @ a salvage yard told me 87 Honda 43mm cartridge forks were the > best for their time... anyone know if they are swappable into a DR??? > > Guy > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CGUBERA@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Baja Designs Kit Problems Date: 02 Dec 1999 12:23:06 EST I have a BD Kit on my 94 DR and it works great though I do not have any additional accessories. I think the tech support at BD is where to turn. I accidentally cut the wrong wire when I was installing mine and they were able to diagnose it quickly and walk me through fixing it on the phone. They get your questions all the time and would be happy to help I'm sure. Chris in Nor Cal Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Moon Subject: (dr350) Baja Conversion Kit Date: 02 Dec 1999 12:33:11 -0800 (PST) Has anyone used a kit like this to make a previously dirt only bike street legal (titled, etc.) in Georgia? I called DMV but got the run around. Thanks for your help. Jon 98 Specialized S-Works Mtn. Bike (Sorry it's as close as I could get right now):( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Coleman, Patrick" Subject: RE: (dr350) Baja Conversion Kit Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:27:37 -0600 A friend of mine has done it with a Baja Conversion kit on a XR600. After doing everything right, and taking it in for an inspection, they didn't even look at it. I'll e-mail him and ask for some details, and let you know what he said. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Moon [SMTP:jlmoon@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 2:33 PM > To: dr350 list > Subject: (dr350) Baja Conversion Kit > > Has anyone used a kit like this to make a previously > dirt only bike street legal (titled, etc.) in Georgia? > I called DMV but got the run around. Thanks for your > help. > > Jon > > 98 Specialized S-Works Mtn. Bike > (Sorry it's as close as I could get right now):( > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= Seeger Subject: (dr350) valve clearance Date: 03 Dec 1999 00:06:46 +0100 In my German repair manual, there are different information regarding the outlet valve clearance. One is: 0.08 - 0.13 mm the other: 0.17 - 0.22 mm What is correct? And: are there differences between 350 S from 93 and 350 SE from 96 (I have the cylinder head of the further on the SE motor). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Corsaro" Subject: (dr350) Baja Conversion Kit Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:11:24 -0800 From what I understand, in some states it is very hard to register a dirt bike as a street bike. The VIN number will not come up in the DMV computer. In California you can register a dirt bike as a constructed vehicle (the same way that lots of custom Harley head register there choppers). The last dirt bike I bought, the dealer filled out the paperwork for a street bike title. It slipped by the DMV, and I received the plate without an inspection. Most dealers don't want that liability though, they could lose there dealer license. On my European grey market imports, I have had to register them with an older date (1979) because the VIN number is not listed in there computer data base. The DMV inspector needs to see the Federal sticker and the EPA/CARB emissions sticker only found on north American street registerable vehicles, some times they look for it other times they don't. Jeff Corsaro in San Diego > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Moon > To: dr350 list > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:33 PM > Subject: (dr350) Baja Conversion Kit > > > > Has anyone used a kit like this to make a previously > > dirt only bike street legal (titled, etc.) in Georgia? > > I called DMV but got the run around. Thanks for your > > help. > > > > Jon > > > > 98 Specialized S-Works Mtn. Bike > > (Sorry it's as close as I could get right now):( Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Guy Schneider" Subject: (dr350) DR400 Scheduled Release Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:36:44 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BF3CDB.09593990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is a 400 update to all those interested.. The kickstart version will be released within 3 weeks to your local dealer or at least those that put in an order. To my dismay the "E" electric start version is scheduled to be released in early Jan. and the "S" street version is scheduled for March or April. Initial quantities of the dirt models will be VERY limited until after the S version is released. The Suzuki manufacturer rep who covers the dealer where I bought mine said the E model will come out of the box with 48HP and weight only 6lbs more than the kickstart version. Also Yosh is apparently already working on aftermarket mods. The bummer in all this is I already sold my 94S in anticipation of getting the E in Dec - as was originally stated. If you are considering a swap I would wait to offload your current bike until after the 400s have been officially released. Given the most recent delay, I would expect one if not two more delays to follow and you don't want to be riding the pine next to me. Don't abandon the old warhorse just yet! Regards, Guy S. ******* Turning Browsers Into Buyers ******* Guy Schneider Selectica, Inc. 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Here is = a 400 update=20 to all those interested..
 
The = kickstart version=20 will be released within 3 weeks to your local dealer or at least those = that put=20 in an order.  To my dismay the "E" electric start version is = scheduled to=20 be released in early Jan. and the "S" street version is scheduled = for March=20 or April.  Initial quantities of the dirt models will be VERY = limited=20 until after the S version is released.  The Suzuki manufacturer rep = who=20 covers the dealer where I bought mine said the E model will come = out of the=20 box with 48HP and weight only 6lbs more than the kickstart = version. =20 Also Yosh is apparently already working on aftermarket=20 mods.
 
The = bummer in all=20 this is I already sold my 94S in anticipation of getting the E in Dec - = as was=20 originally stated.  If you are considering a swap I would wait to = offload=20 your current bike until after the 400s have been officially = released. =20 Given the most recent delay, I would expect one if not two more delays = to=20 follow and you don't want to be riding the pine next to me.  = Don't=20 abandon the old warhorse just yet!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BF3CDB.09593990-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jessekientz Subject: Re: (dr350) valve clearance Date: 02 Dec 1999 17:16:18 -0800 HI Jurgen, There is a difference 90-93 does not have the compression release built into the cam so you have to do the manual compression release thing my manual shows that the 93 outlet valve clearance is .10-.15 mm. In 1994 and on the cam is different and requires the larger opening .17-.22 mm as you have described but you can just kick and go without doing the compression release manually. The newer cam will not fit the earlier head however. hope this does not confuse you. Regards Jesse http://kientech.com Jürgen Seeger wrote: > > In my German repair manual, there are different information > regarding the outlet valve clearance. > > One is: 0.08 - 0.13 mm > > the other: 0.17 - 0.22 mm > > What is correct? And: are there differences between > 350 S from 93 and 350 SE from 96 (I have the cylinder head > of the further on the SE motor). > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) valve clearance Date: 03 Dec 1999 16:40:28 EST Jesse...How in the world did you learn so much about the DR???? Thanks for the tip on 87 RM forks... I may have a set lined up or some cartridge forks from Norm... Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trail Rider Subject: Re: (dr350) DR400 Scheduled Release Date: 03 Dec 1999 19:10:30 -0800 > Guy Schneider wrote: > > Here is a 400 update to all those interested.. > > The kickstart version will be released within 3 weeks to your local > dealer or at least those that put in an order. To my dismay the "E" > electric start version is scheduled to be released in early Jan. and > the "S" street version is scheduled for March or April. Initial > quantities of the dirt models will be VERY limited until after the S > version is released. The Suzuki manufacturer rep who covers the > dealer where I bought mine said the E model will come out of the box > with 48HP and weight only 6lbs more than the kickstart version. > Also Yosh is apparently already working on aftermarket mods. > > The bummer in all this is I already sold my 94S in anticipation of > getting the E in Dec - as was originally stated. So Guy, would you mind letting us know what you got for your '94? That would help in evaluating what I could get for mine if I *ahem* think about getting a DRZ400 also :-) I think you said you were asking $3100... -- Scott Aldrich '98 Suzuki DR350SE '85 Honda CR125R '74 Yamaha DT125A __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Myers Subject: (dr350) RE: dr350-digest V1 #211 Date: 03 Dec 1999 22:03:06 -0600 The Suzuki manufacturer rep who covers the dealer where I bought mine said the E model will come out of the box with 48HP I find this very hard to believe when the 350 only produces 30bhp but if it really can and I really don't think so, I'd be willing to ditch my '99 in favor of a DRZ Eric begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@H$`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`6 $```$````,`````P``, (````+``\.``````(!_P\!````70`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````&1R,S4P+61I9V5S=$!L:7-T P^OP$>`' ``0```!D```!213H@9'(S-3 M9&EG97-T(%8Q(",R,3$` M`````@%Q``$````6`````;\^#'@/?0STX:G,$=.5".*7A,T9(P``'@`># $` M```%````4TU44 `````>`!\,`0````X```!E;7EEL"@P!0$P-4`@!C M: K L0N U1N@ (+,(8 5 ;V8@@P;@>"/A@2"0(#0X2% @"HN_&1,S!B:!_ _F(DH0:0+N %0!8`!T MD;YC`Y$`<"*P(: O M560"("8G!4 K`6YK(G!O++TAD" Subject: (dr350) SE-model valve size Date: 04 Dec 1999 10:43:24 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01BF3E44.63B27040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry,i'm rather new on the list.I was wondering ,have 350SE different = valves than older models, because SE spark plug is a tiny cr 9ek many thanks =20 Mikko Vimpari Oulu,Finland DR350SEV-97,with 30000km = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01BF3E44.63B27040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_006A_01BF3E44.63B27040-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aches@deltech.net (Chesley, Andrus) Subject: (dr350) Re:400 Date: 04 Dec 1999 06:10:45 -0600 Darn, Looks like there are gonna be a very limited item for at least a year. Oh well.. I still have my '97 for sale with ISM 3.5 gas tank and Modified Corbin seat on it..All stock parts go with it ( fuel tank, stock seat, rear fender extension). Have done tool the bag racks off and traded them in on a set for the KLR which I use for long distance backroading now. Useing the DR for about town stuff. -- Cheers and Best Regards Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking Jennings, La. R11RA,DR350SET(forsale 2700) ,A14 "So Many Roads, So Little Time" http://members/deltech.net/aches Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ThunderSUB" Subject: (dr350) Jetting Date: 04 Dec 1999 14:20:28 -0000 Hi guys, It's about jetting again... I just can't get it right ! The bike was running great but as temperatures get lower and lower, the engine started to backfire. The backfire occurs when I close the throttle (after using full throttle). ThunderSUB (Claudio) Lisbon, Portugal http://drive.to/thundersub thundersub@ip.pt ICQ# [3072424] * 1982 Honda Dax 70 * 1993 Suzuki DR377 S * 1999 Yamaha YZF-R1 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beanbooger@aol.com Subject: (dr350) WTB: Stock Wheel Set to fit a '93 DR350S Date: 05 Dec 1999 02:14:22 EST I want a spare set for my street tires. Thanks in advance. Brian Regnier Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug Bragg Subject: (dr350) riding gear Date: 05 Dec 1999 07:46:16 -0800 Someone on e-bay is selling a new riding jersey: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=214368231 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne Marsula' Subject: Re: (dr350) riding gear Date: 05 Dec 1999 12:13:53 -0800 Doug Bragg wrote: > > Someone on e-bay is selling a new riding jersey: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=214368231 > Gee Doug, That's really interesting. I just bought two Moose riding jerseys from a dealer for $9.90 each. Most of the distributors have "clearance" catalogs for older merchandise, ask your dealer to show you one. Lots of good stuff for much better prices. Watcha wanna bet, through Ebay that jersey will sell for more than retail price. Wayne Marsula' Escondido, CA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne Marsula' Subject: Re: (dr350) riding gear Date: 05 Dec 1999 12:13:41 -0800 Doug Bragg wrote: > > Someone on e-bay is selling a new riding jersey: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=214368231 > Gee Doug, That's really interesting. I just bought two Moose riding jerseys from a dealer for $9.90 each. Most of the distrubutors have "clearance" catalogs for older merchandise, ask your dealer to show you one. Lots of good stuff for much better prices. Watcha wanna bet, through Ebay that jersey will sell for more than retail price. Wayne Marsula' Escondido, CA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kevin albrecht Subject: (dr350) Montana Date: 05 Dec 1999 16:53:28 -0500 (EST) Hey great application of technology guy and girls! I'm planing on to Bozeman MT anybody know of riding areas. Does Yellow Stone have any off-road trails? ANY info would be very welcome. Kevin 98SE Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Nolastname" Subject: (dr350) Riding gear for sale Date: 05 Dec 1999 15:11:10 PST Hey guys...I just got a hell of a deal on a banged up sportbike, and the guy threw in the following: Joe Rocket Balistic Jacket, black, Large, Kevlar patches @ elbows & shoulders, removable closed-cell armor in same areas, zip-out liner, supposedly waterproof (according to the tags that are still on it...its NEW!) Its $219 in my most recent Competition Accs Whse catalog. I'd take $100 (+S&H) for it. AGV helmet, black, large, chin & forhead vents, cant find a model number on it unless its its "Skema"...thats the only thing on the tag in the helmet that might be a model indicator. It has a tiny scratch on right side under the faceshield. And the faceshield! It is a double-layer contraption (like a double-pane window in a house) that traps air between the layers. The plastic trim that goes around the edges are marked "snowmobile use only"....but the helmet is definitely a bike helmet...clearly says DOT & Snell M95 on back. The faceshield makes a TIGHT lockup on the helmet...no wind/water getting through there. Should be great for winter riding...wont ever fog. It is like new, with the exception of the little scratch. I'd take $75 (+S&H) for it. I can send a pic to ya if interested. Bryan in Dallas 95 DR350SE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Springer Subject: Re: (dr350) Montana Date: 05 Dec 1999 15:21:26 -0800 kevin albrecht wrote: > I'm planing on to Bozeman MT anybody know of riding areas. A friend, Arnold, and I spent 30 days towing dualsport bikes around the west and the midwest. We're both 58 years old, and our riding abilities are only mediocre. We spent a couple days camped in a town about 10 miles west of Three Forks which is about 60 miles west of Boseman. It isn't easy to find dirt riding in that area. I wrote the following shortly after leaving the area to continue on our trip. I hope this helps you Kevin, and doesn't bore the rest of you to much. We took this trip around the first week in September. In the morning, on the information gleaned form a local fellow, we fire up the M/Cs (which were running excellent, BTW), and headed out. The temp. was about 60 degrees with enough sun to promise us an increase. We took the one dirt road that we had been told about. There are all kinds of dirt roads, and this one was kind of boring. Smooth hard sand two lanes wide, not even an occasional rut to make it exciting. In one of the small canyons we did scare up a deer who hopped across the road in front of us. I had been trying to get a picture of Arnold riding, so I had the camera out, but I fumbled this opportunity to get a deer picture, damn. The road took us to Three Forks where the main freeway had passed it by years ago. Although the town survived on it farming merit, there were several old businesses that had gone south like the old hotel across the street from the cafe that we ate breakfast. It was a nice cafe that had a banner hung up that said WELCOME RODEO HANDS. Arnold asked if there was a rodeo in town for the weekend and was told, no. We figured, they must mean all rodeo people everywhere are welcome. That little marketing scheme didn't detract from their ability to make delicious biscuits and gravy. After breakfast, it was back to the task of finding something interesting to do. We weren't very hopeful of finding a good dirt road, so we were looking for other options. A man who made the mistake of meeting our gaze, told us of some caverns nearby where the park service gave tours. That was good enough for us. It was only about 12 miles away, up the Jefferson river. The caverns were my first, and I enjoyed them as well as the (hoaky) enthusiastic spiel given by the cute tour ranger. The thing I didn't enjoy was the half mile walk up to the cave entrance. It took it's toll on Arnold and I. We finished the tour then had a caffeine drink hoping to be rejuvenated then rode along the Jefferson back to camp. I was bushed, but Arnold wouldn't let me rest long. He hadn't had dirt riding satisfaction yet. The weather was looking somewhat stormy, but off we went at about 4:30pm. Not five minutes out of camp it started to rain. It was a summer shower coming out of a cloud that wasn't very big, so we turned up the speed to get out from under it as soon as possible. It worked. We were only a little damp by the time we saw Boulder Creek with Boulder Road heading off beside it. We took a vote and decide to see where it went. Well, it went and it went, it eventually turned into 2 lane dirt from oil (as they say in these parts), then to two track, and then to high clearance 4 X 4 road, all in the space of 25 miles. We started picking up forest signs saying that it was only 5 more miles to Sailor Lake near the top of Hollow Top Mountain. When we arrived at roads end, there was a locked forest service gate with a sign saying Sailor Lake another half mile walk. There was a group there that said they thought we could make it, so off we went for another walk up a mountain. The lake was worth the effort when we got there. It was a quarter mile in diameter, and nearly in an unspoiled state, with probable another 1500ft of mountain behind it. The lake was at 9000ft. We noticed the lack of oxygen exhibited by our huffing and puffing. By now it was nearly seven o'clock, it would be dark around 8:30pm, so we needed to hightail it for camp. That was the fun part, since we knew the road and had the sun at our back, we let the bikes take their leads, and we were back before we knew it. Funs was over for now. Tomorrow was a travel day. -- Pete Springer PH 760 633 2249 Box 938 501 Union St. Cardiff, Ca 92007 Encinitas, Ca 92024 84 V65 Sabre, Honda 86 VF700C Magna, Honda 86 XR600, Honda 85 XR350, Honda 94 DR350, Suzuki Street version 89 TW200, Yam The only thing worth dying for is living. It's not smart people that live to be old, It's lucky people. Sabre shock Altering is the answer to "The Meaning of Life" (honda magna,honda sabre,V65,1100cc,vf750s,vf700s,vf700c,vf750c,honda interceptor,vfr750f) (honda magnum,v45,750cc,vf750,vf700,vfr750,vfr800,vfr800f,vf1000,vf1000f) Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug Bragg Subject: (dr350) DRZ400 spotting - I've seen it!!! Date: 05 Dec 1999 18:08:09 -0800 I just returned from the 1999 Seattle (WA) International MC show. I actually sat on and checked out the DRZ400S and photographed it with my digital camera. See the photos and a quick write up at: http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/drz400s/drz400s.html In conclusion - I will probably sell my 350 in the next year or so and replace it with a 400. Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "WDSRC" Subject: (dr350) Season's Greetings Date: 06 Dec 1999 00:15:25 -0500 Happy Holiday's to all Dual Sporters from Southern Dual Sporter Newsletter and the Withlacoochee Dual Sport Riders Club, Florida, USA! Please Turn the volume up on your speakers and click below to party with Santa! http://www.funsilly.com/santaparty.html Robert Frey WDSRC http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Canyon/5245 The WDSRC And The Southern Dual Sporter Newsletter Encompass The Entire Southeastern United States: Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, The Carolinas, And The Virginias. Dual Sport.......Southern Style! Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Warr" Subject: Re: (dr350) Montana Date: 05 Dec 1999 23:11:12 -0700 Hi there. I'm up in Great Falls, about 200 miles north of Bozeman. There is riding in the Bridger Mountains, just north of the BoZone. Also, there is a group of really crazy guys that ride over Bear Tooth Pass on large dual sports every year. The best trail riding is in the Little Belts, near me, but you would not be too far from their southern end. Basically, you are surrounded by nice mountains, most of which have some trail riding. No, there is no trail riding in Yellowstone. I really like dual sporting more than trail riding. You can do that all over the state. When you get here, you must join the Montana Trail Vehicle Riders Association (PO Box 2884, Great Falls 59403 - This is a state wide organization.) The only reason we have any trail riding is because of them. Of course, you can also check with the local bike shops - I recommend Summit Motorsports. Welcome to Big Sky Country. Tom Warr drwarr@montana.com Great Falls Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trail Rider Subject: Re: (dr350) DRZ400 spotting - I've seen it!!! Date: 06 Dec 1999 08:42:30 -0800 Doug Bragg wrote: > > I just returned from the 1999 Seattle (WA) International MC show. I > actually sat on and checked out the DRZ400S and photographed it with my > digital camera. > See the photos and a quick write up at: > http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/drz400s/drz400s.html Hey, great job on the pictures, thanks for sharing them. From your pictures it looks like they went with aluminum brake and shift levers (good). Could you tell if they jettisoned the crappy triple clamp? From your pictures I can almost make it out, but not quite. -- Scott Aldrich '98 Suzuki DR350SE '85 Honda CR125R '74 Yamaha DT125A Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Myers Subject: (dr350) RE: dr350-digest V1 #213 Date: 06 Dec 1999 12:06:13 -0600 Doug Bragg Quickly Wrote: See the photos and a quick write up at: http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/drz400s/drz400s.html Hey Doug, Thanks for the pictures, they looked great...I'm looking forward to the M/C show coming to Chicago in Feb. 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Regards Jesse -----Original Message----- From: mikko vimpari To: dr350@lists.xmission.com Cc: mikko vimpari Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 12:41 AM Subject: (dr350) SE-model valve size =20 =20 Sorry,i'm rather new on the list.I was wondering ,have 350SE = different valves than older models, because SE spark plug is a tiny cr 9ek =20 many thanks =20 Mikko Vimpari Oulu,Finland DR350SEV-97,with 30000km = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01BF4025.969862C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0089_01BF4025.969862C0-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andy.doyle@bt.com Subject: RE: (dr350) Jetting Date: 07 Dec 1999 10:24:42 -0000 Have you checked the joint between the front pipe and silencer on your exhaust, or for any holes in the silencer. This is a more likely cause of backfire on the overrun if the bike is running well apart from the bangs Andy 96 DR350 SE, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: ThunderSUB [SMTP:thundersub@ip.pt] > Sent: 04 December 1999 14:20 > To: Suzuki DR350 Mailing List > Subject: (dr350) Jetting > > Hi guys, > > It's about jetting again... I just can't get it right ! > > The bike was running great but as temperatures get lower and lower, the > engine started to backfire. The backfire occurs when I close the throttle > (after using full throttle). > > ThunderSUB (Claudio) > Lisbon, Portugal > http://drive.to/thundersub > > thundersub@ip.pt > ICQ# [3072424] > > * 1982 Honda Dax 70 > * 1993 Suzuki DR377 S > * 1999 Yamaha YZF-R1 > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Nolastname" Subject: (dr350) Joe Rocket jacket sold (was: Riding gear for sale) Date: 07 Dec 1999 07:28:13 PST Kieth et al- Jacket is sold. Helmet still available. Bryan in Dallas 95 DR-350SE BTW---the sportbike I got the stuff with is a 98 GSX-600R; I've been riding it a bit...WOW! a bit different than the DR! If you guys know anyone that might be interested, details at my WWW page: http://users.ticnet.com/vfrman/gsxr600.html >Do you still have the jacket for sale? > >Keith >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bryan Nolastname >To: >Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 6:11 PM >Subject: (dr350) Riding gear for sale > > > > Hey guys...I just got a hell of a deal on a banged up sportbike, and the >guy > > threw in the following: > > > > Joe Rocket Balistic Jacket, black, Large, Kevlar patches @ elbows > > AGV helmet, black, large, chin & forhead vents, cant find a model I'd > > take $75 (+S&H) for it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) DR ergonomics... Date: 07 Dec 1999 13:25:18 EST ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting. I want to stand more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they helped alot.. I'm 6 foot. Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods??? Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trail Rider Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics... Date: 07 Dec 1999 11:09:06 -0600 Comobu@aol.com wrote: > > ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The > seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting. I want to stand > more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar > elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they > helped alot.. I'm 6 foot. Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods??? I'm also 6 feet with a 32 inch inseam and I also feel hunched over when standing. I went with some aluminum bars with the CR high bend. The ergos are very similiar to my '85 CR125R now. I feel much more comfortable standing but I agree that it still feels like it needs something more. I don't want to get too radical with changes but I bet replacing the triple clamp would help. Unfortunately I don't see any after-market stuff and I bet that's not going to be a cheap and simple modification. -- Scott Aldrich '98 Suzuki DR350SE '85 Honda CR125R '74 Yamaha DT125A Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Ralston" Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics... Date: 07 Dec 1999 12:14:08 -0800 Guy, I too am using the Renthal Jimmy Button High Bars and went with the Baja Products Seat. Both of the these changes made a big difference. I still feel like the pegs are in the wrong place for standing, but with the changed bars and seat, the transition from sitting to standing is much smoother. Now if I could just make the bike handle the So Cal desert whoops I would be pretty happy. Bob 93 DR350S - FMF PowerCore IV, Airbox Mods, Progressive Springs, Solid Peg Mounts, IMS Tank + All the street legal stuff removed. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:25 AM > ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The > seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting. I want to stand > more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar > elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they > helped alot.. I'm 6 foot. Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods??? > > > Guy > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz" Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics... Date: 07 Dec 1999 12:22:54 -0800 Hi Scott, Just a tip that I used, the applied racing clamps have the option of taller bar mounts that are also offset so that you can move the bars forward some as well as higher. the only downside is if you get too carried away your cable's will be too short but you can get longer ones from motion pro. Another trick that I tried was to install an aftermarket throttle and single cable. What a relief! I didnt realize the total difference it made until I rode another DR TG weekend we were riding up a trail about 3 miles to the top so on the gas all the way up and I thought my hands were going to cramp up. We then traded bikes and rode another 40 miles that day and no more problem this kit I put together goes for $44.00 and is easy to put on and you don't have to whittle the grip off. Regards Jesse -----Original Message----- Cc: dr350@lists.xmission.com > >Comobu@aol.com wrote: >> >> ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The >> seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting. I want to stand >> more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar >> elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they >> helped alot.. I'm 6 foot. Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods??? > > I'm also 6 feet with a 32 inch inseam and I also feel hunched over >when standing. I went with some aluminum bars with the CR high bend. >The ergos are very similiar to my '85 CR125R now. I feel much more >comfortable standing but I agree that it still feels like it needs >something more. I don't want to get too radical with changes but I bet >replacing the triple clamp would help. Unfortunately I don't see any >after-market stuff and I bet that's not going to be a cheap and simple >modification. > >-- >Scott Aldrich >'98 Suzuki DR350SE >'85 Honda CR125R >'74 Yamaha DT125A > >Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html >Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz" Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics... Date: 07 Dec 1999 12:37:14 -0800 Hi Bob, You ought to try the Kouba links they soften up those ripples significantly I found that out this Thanksgiving weekend Also you may need a little stiffer front springs than the progressive. The 43kg/mm spring in the Race Tech three spring kit seems to correct a lot of problems in most of the DR's with riders over 180lb's hope this helps. regards Jesse http:/kientech.com -----Original Message----- >Guy, > >I too am using the Renthal Jimmy Button High Bars and went with the Baja >Products Seat. Both of the these changes made a big difference. I still >feel like the pegs are in the wrong place for standing, but with the changed >bars and seat, the transition from sitting to standing is much smoother. Now >if I could just make the bike handle the So Cal desert whoops I would be >pretty happy. > >Bob > >93 DR350S - FMF PowerCore IV, Airbox Mods, Progressive Springs, Solid Peg >Mounts, IMS Tank + All the street legal stuff removed. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:25 AM >Subject: (dr350) DR ergonomics... > > >> ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? >The >> seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting. I want to >stand >> more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear >bar >> elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, >they >> helped alot.. I'm 6 foot. Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods??? >> >> >> Guy >> >> Support Dual Sport News with your subscription >http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html >> Visit the dr350 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >> Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >> Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). >> > > >Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html >Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BEEMERDON@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics... Date: 07 Dec 1999 17:38:08 EST In a message dated 99-12-07 13:27:16 EST, you write: << ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting. I want to stand more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they helped alot.. I'm 6 foot. Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods??? >> I am over 6 ft. and have the same problem. I had an old Maico that just begged you to stand up but the DR is a real "sit down" bike. I have seen some things that attach to the handlebar mounts that move the bars one inch up and one inch forward but they were $89 so I will not be getting them right away. Has anyone tried these? How did they work? Are these the Thumper bar elevators or another product? Don Sprinkle '94 DR Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Spooner" Subject: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications Date: 08 Dec 1999 00:11:09 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BF4110.BA6497A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anybody advise me on how much difference their is between a new = Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox with a k+n filter. The price between the two is somewhat different especially with the = shipping costs to me in the u.k.=20 I'd also appreciate some advice on the following, apart from being a pig = to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs like a dream until I = open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. = I'm worried about changing the settings because other than this the bike = runs great. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BF4110.BA6497A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can anybody advise me on how much = difference their=20 is between a new Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox = with a=20 k+n filter.
 
The price between the two is somewhat = different=20 especially with the shipping costs to me in the u.k.
 
I'd also appreciate some advice on the = following,=20 apart from being a pig to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs = like a=20 dream until I open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike = is being=20 starved. I'm worried about changing the settings because other than = this=20 the bike runs great.
 
------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BF4110.BA6497A0-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne Marsula' Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics... Date: 07 Dec 1999 16:44:33 -0800 Comobu@aol.com wrote: > > ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The > seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting. I want to stand > more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar > elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they > helped alot.. I'm 6 foot. Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods??? > > Guy Guy, I'm 5'11" and I just put some taller bars on that I got at the local shop. They are about 1.5" taller than stock, and now I can stand straight up and not have to reach down for the bars. Easy fix. Wayne Marsula' Escondido, cA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) DR ergonomics Date: 07 Dec 1999 20:06:23 EST Jesse, Don, Bob, Scott, Chris... Thanks for the feedback... Bob, I don't think I want a taller seat heighth but I saw tall seat foam is available, Don yes those are Thumpers 89$ bar elevators, Jesse, I called Applied Racing it's 145$ for the taller more forward upper triple clamp... pricey.... is it worth it to me on these stock damper rod forks??... I'll have to think about it... I have thought of cutting the footpegs off and welding them lower by 1/2 ".... shouldn't go too low... I'd like to try or buy? or design simple bar risers that bolt in between the bars and the clamp.. just a 1/2 to 3/4 " and I think standing for a longer period would be possible for me ... Thanks guys, Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz" Subject: Re: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications Date: 07 Dec 1999 17:49:05 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01BF40DB.5AD53180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrew, I want to thank you again for the long distance call. I will = come as close as i can to answer your Question. the stock airbox flows = 134.3 cfm with a freshly cleaned airfilter element. It flows about 142 = cfm with the access door removed and it flows about 145 cfm with the = airfilter element totally removed and the door off. The vortex airbox = flows 265cfm with a freshly oiled aifilter element. It is obvious that = it is superior to the stock airbox. these tests were done on an orfice = centered flowbench set at 24inches watercolumn . For a look at this test = pull up my website and the letter from rst racing heads is there to look = at. It sounds like your dr needs to be jetted up a little a jx = needle and spring and possibly a richer main for the open throttle lag. = Do you have a aftermarket freeflowing exhaust on your bike? if so it for = sure is running lean. Get back to me and may be we can get your starting = and flat topend corrected without much cost to you other than some jets. Regards Jesse Http:/kientech.com (website) -----Original Message----- Can anybody advise me on how much difference their is between a new = Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox with a k+n filter. =20 The price between the two is somewhat different especially with the = shipping costs to me in the u.k.=20 =20 I'd also appreciate some advice on the following, apart from being a = pig to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs like a dream until = I open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. = I'm worried about changing the settings because other than this the bike = runs great. ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01BF40DB.5AD53180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andrew, I want to thank you again = for the=20 long distance call. I will come as close as i can to answer your = Question. the=20 stock airbox flows 134.3 cfm with a freshly cleaned airfilter element. = It flows=20 about 142 cfm with the access door removed and it flows about 145 cfm = with the=20 airfilter element totally removed and the door off. The vortex airbox = flows=20 265cfm with a freshly oiled aifilter element. It is obvious that it is = superior=20 to the stock airbox. these tests were done on an orfice centered = flowbench set=20 at 24inches watercolumn . For a look at this test pull up my website and = the=20 letter from rst racing heads is there to look at.  It sounds like = your dr=20 needs to be jetted up a little = a        jx=20 needle and spring and possibly a richer main for the open throttle lag. = Do you=20 have a aftermarket freeflowing exhaust on your bike? if so it for sure = is=20 running lean. Get back to me and may be we can get your starting and = flat topend=20 corrected without much cost to you=20 other than some jets.
Regards = Jesse
Http:/kientech.com =20 (website)
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Andrew Spooner <Andrew@Jasma.demon.co.uk>=
To:=20 dr350@lists.xmission.com=20 <dr350@lists.xmission.com>=
Date:=20 Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:13 PM
Subject: (dr350) DR 350 = airbox=20 modifications

Can anybody advise me on how much = difference=20 their is between a new Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard = Suzuki airbox=20 with a k+n filter.
 
The price between the two is = somewhat different=20 especially with the shipping costs to me in the u.k.
 
I'd also appreciate some advice on = the=20 following, apart from being a pig to kick when cold (20 mins = sometime) my=20 bike runs like a dream until I open the throttle fully. It then = feels=20 like the bike is being starved. I'm worried about changing the = settings=20 because other than this the bike runs great.
 
------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01BF40DB.5AD53180-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DBatDBA@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Standing up and bars Date: 07 Dec 1999 21:32:40 EST In a message dated 12/7/99 6:51:14 PM, owner-dr350-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? >> Me too, but I'm only 5'7. All I did to fix my problem was to reposition the stock bars as far forward as possible. Puts me in a much better riding position for standing-up and still works great for sitting down. Dave Bamberger/95DR350SE/99CBR600F4/84RZ350/Colorado Springs/ Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Springer Subject: (dr350) Carb problem on 94 dr350 Date: 07 Dec 1999 18:56:41 -0800 Hi all, I've been lurking on the list here for a couple of weeks. there seems to be lots of great info and knowledge here. Thanks in advance, maybe you can help me. I bought a 94 dr350 electric start street model about a month ago. I took it to the Death Valley area for 7 riding days last week. I have always been a honda man and have some XRs, But my riding budy has a 90 Dr350 dirt model converted for street. Anyway I have ridden his from time to time and I concluded that his DR does every thing better than my hondas so now I have a DR. The bike run great most of the time. About the 4th day of riding, I was in Goler Wash and fell down trying to get up one of those rocky rises in the west end of the wash. No damage to me or the bike (other than a directional signal), but shortly afterwards the bike started to stall if the RPM would get low and it would be hard to start. It would only start very difficultly with full throttle. The Bike ran in verying stages of bad for the whole 33 miles back to the eastern entrance to that wash. The bike stalled completely a couple time where I couldn't keep it running (unnerving), Finally getting it going and limping in at about a top speed of 25 mph. The next day I took the carb apart to find it clean with only a couple of grains of something in the float bowl. The only thing that looked funny was the needle didn't look like it had a very positive locating arrangement. Maybe the needle was bouncing around and lodging itself cocked and allowing too much fuel. When I was having trouble, I tried taping on the carb to reseat the needle. Now get this, when I put the carb back on the bike it started and ran perfectly even without choke and it would take gas without warming up. So I thought this is fixed somehow, then in about 10 miles of perfect running the bike died while runing 40 mph, no sputtering or missing, just died. I tried to restart, nothing, so I tapped the carb in desperation. It restarted and ran pretty well (not perfect), But in another hour of slow and go rock hopping it was running perfectly and ran another hour back to camp. That was the last I rode her before leaving for home. Are there any suggestions as I am hesitant to ride her further than I feel comfortable about walking? BTW, I put an extra set of peg about 8 to 10 inches behind the stock pegs. It makes standing up much easier, and sand riding is a breese with the weight further back. Also when climbing hills you don't have to hold any weight with your arms. The down side is learning to get to the brake or gearshift. The alteration requires welding. -- Pete Springer PH 760 633 2249 Box 938 501 Union St. Cardiff, Ca 92007 Encinitas, Ca 92024 84 V65 Sabre, Honda 86 VF700C Magna, Honda 86 XR600, Honda 85 XR350, Honda 89 TW200, Yam The only thing worth dying for is living. It's not smart people that live to be old, It's lucky people. Sabre shock Altering is the answer to "The Meaning of Life" (honda magna,honda sabre,V65,1100cc,vf750s,vf700s,vf700c,vf750c,honda interceptor,vfr750f) (honda magnum,v45,750cc,vf750,vf700,vfr750,vfr800,vfr800f,vf1000,vf1000f) Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Kouba Subject: Re: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications Date: 07 Dec 1999 21:05:18 -0700 --------------99A86521D229143D1464B54B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Spooner wrote: > Can anybody advise me on how much difference their is between a new > Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox with a k+n > filter. The price between the two is somewhat different especially > with the shipping costs to me in the u.k. I'd also appreciate some > advice on the following, apart from being a pig to kick when cold (20 > mins sometime) my bike runs like a dream until I open the throttle > fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. I'm worried about > changing the settings because other than this the bike runs great. AJ: I just installed a Vortex airbox on our 94 DR 435 that had a heavely modified stock airbox on it, that I assumed was as good as it gets untill Jesse told me to try his vortex air box. I installed his airbox and did not change anything else, had to go up 3 main jet sizes, from a 147.5 to a 155 at 3000 ft, and it runs so much harder on top. You can usually tell by the size of the main jet as to how much gain or loss one gets from a product. If you have modified your stock air box, no matter if you have a DR or DRS, you need to go up on the main jet. The pilot needs to be a 37.5 and the main between a 132.5 and a 137.5 depending on airbox mods and elevation. I do not have a comment on the KN filter, except it's a real sweet heart to remove and replace. The pre 1994 DR and DRs Model 350's are notorisly hard to start cold. (below 42 degrees) Thanks for the inquiry and your on a good list. Norm Suzuki DR Suspensions DR. DR http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299 --------------99A86521D229143D1464B54B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

Andrew Spooner wrote:

Can anybody advise me on how much difference their is between a new Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox with a k+n filter. The price between the two is somewhat different especially with the shipping costs to me in the u.k. I'd also appreciate some advice on the following, apart from being a pig to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs like a dream until I open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. I'm worried about changing the settings because other than this the bike runs great. 
AJ:

I just installed a Vortex airbox on our 94 DR 435 that had a heavely modified stock airbox on it, that I assumed  was as good as it gets untill Jesse told me to try his vortex air box.  I installed his airbox and did not change anything else,  had to go up 3 main jet sizes, from a 147.5 to a 155 at 3000 ft, and it runs so much harder on top.  You can usually tell by the size of the main jet as to how much gain or loss one gets from a product.  If you have modified your stock air box, no matter if you have a DR or DRS, you need to go up on the main jet.  The pilot needs to be a 37.5 and the main between a 132.5 and a 137.5 depending on airbox mods and elevation.  I do not have a comment on the KN filter, except it's a real sweet heart to remove and replace.   The pre 1994 DR and DRs Model 350's are notorisly hard to start cold.  (below 42 degrees)  Thanks for the inquiry and your on a good list.  Norm

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http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299 --------------99A86521D229143D1464B54B-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jlilien@slip.net Subject: (dr350) Thinking of buying a 94 DR350 Date: 07 Dec 1999 22:01:27 -0800 I have had an XL600R for many years, wore it out, and sold it a few months ago. Rather than fix it (it had over 40K miles) I though that I would try to get a lighter dual sport bike, that was more dirt oriented that the XL. I have found a 94 DR350 that seems to be in very good condition, less than 6K miles, but I have some questions and perhaps someone here can comment. Is it possible to fit a kick starter to it and remove the electric starter. It looks like that there is a rubber plug in the case were the kick start would go. If I do that, how much weight will it save. Can I run the bike without a battery. The bike coughs a bit when I close the throttle from high revs, not a real backfire, but a noticable hickup. It has an FMF exhaust on it. Is this a problem, or that something DR350s do. Anything specific I should look out for before I buy it. If anyone in the San Francisco Bay area has a 93 Dr350 for sale, the one without an electric start, but as I understand it, easier starting that the 90 through 92s, I would be interested in hearing about it. Thanks alot, Jeff Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=F0mundur_P=E9tursson_S=EDmst=F6=F0vardeild=2E__?= Subject: RE: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications Date: 08 Dec 1999 08:42:44 -0000 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4158.322C9BD8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hi when you say modified stock airbox, what mods do you meen, cut the top = off or add 1 inc hole in the top. what i am looking for is what jet do i need if i cut the top off. Greetings from ICELAND =20 Gu=F0m.P=E9tursson=20 Stj=F3rn og rekstrarmi=F0st=F6=F0 / Fars=EDmakerfi=20 S=EDmst=F6=F0vardeild=20 Landss=EDminn=20 S:5506328 GSM: 8926328 NMT:8526328=20 -----Original Message----- Sent: 8. desember 1999 04:05 Cc: dr350@lists.xmission.com =20 Andrew Spooner wrote:=20 Can anybody advise me on how much difference their is between a new = Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox with a k+n filter. The = price between the two is somewhat different especially with the shipping = costs to me in the u.k. I'd also appreciate some advice on the following, apart = from being a pig to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs like a = dream until I open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. I'm worried about changing the settings because other than = this the bike runs great.=20 AJ:=20 I just installed a Vortex airbox on our 94 DR 435 that had a heavely modified stock airbox on it, that I assumed was as good as it gets = untill Jesse told me to try his vortex air box. I installed his airbox and = did not change anything else, had to go up 3 main jet sizes, from a 147.5 to a = 155 at 3000 ft, and it runs so much harder on top. You can usually tell by = the size of the main jet as to how much gain or loss one gets from a = product. If you have modified your stock air box, no matter if you have a DR or = DRS, you need to go up on the main jet. The pilot needs to be a 37.5 and = the main between a 132.5 and a 137.5 depending on airbox mods and = elevation. I do not have a comment on the KN filter, except it's a real sweet heart = to remove and replace. The pre 1994 DR and DRs Model 350's are notorisly = hard to start cold. (below 42 degrees) Thanks for the inquiry and your on = a good list. Norm=20 Suzuki DR Suspensions=20 DR. 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hanging up. I have had this happen with other bikes I have owned. Make sure that the piston slides freely, and the needle does not bind. Also check the top cover over the CV diaphragm. If the rubber is slightly twisted under the cover it will case problems. I have had CV pistons that will hang up in wet weather because of the condensation building up on the piston surface. Jeff Corsaro in San Diego ...oh I lived in Encinitas for five years, I am up that way all the time. Springer wrote: > Hi all, I've been lurking on the list here for a couple of weeks. > there seems to be lots of great info and knowledge here. Thanks in > advance, maybe you can help me. > I bought a 94 dr350 electric start street model about a month ago. I > took it to the Death Valley area for 7 riding days last week. I have > always been a honda man and have some XRs, But my riding budy has a 90 > Dr350 dirt model converted for street. Anyway I have ridden his from > time to time and I concluded that his DR does every thing better than my > hondas so now I have a DR. > > The bike run great most of the time. About the 4th day of riding, I > was in Goler Wash and fell down trying to get up one of those rocky > rises in the west end of the wash. No damage to me or the bike (other > than a directional signal), but shortly afterwards the bike started to > stall if the RPM would get low and it would be hard to start. It would > only start very difficultly with full throttle. The Bike ran in verying > stages of bad for the whole 33 miles back to the eastern entrance to > that wash. The bike stalled completely a couple time where I couldn't > keep it running (unnerving), Finally getting it going and limping in at > about a top speed of 25 mph. The next day I took the carb apart to find > it clean with only a couple of grains of something in the float bowl. > The only thing that looked funny was the needle didn't look like it had > a very positive locating arrangement. Maybe the needle was bouncing > around and lodging itself cocked and allowing too much fuel. When I was > having trouble, I tried taping on the carb to reseat the needle. > Now get this, when I put the carb back on the bike it started and ran > perfectly even without choke and it would take gas without warming up. > So I thought this is fixed somehow, then in about 10 miles of perfect > running the bike died while runing 40 mph, no sputtering or missing, > just died. I tried to restart, nothing, so I tapped the carb in > desperation. It restarted and ran pretty well (not perfect), But in > another hour of slow and go rock hopping it was running perfectly and > ran another hour back to camp. That was the last I rode her before > leaving for home. Are there any suggestions as I am hesitant to ride > her further than I feel comfortable about walking? > > BTW, I put an extra set of peg about 8 to 10 inches behind the stock > pegs. It makes standing up much easier, and sand riding is a breese > with the weight further back. Also when climbing hills you don't have > to hold any weight with your arms. The down side is learning to get to > the brake or gearshift. The alteration requires welding. > -- > Pete Springer PH 760 633 2249 > Box 938 501 Union St. > Cardiff, Ca 92007 Encinitas, Ca 92024 > > 84 V65 Sabre, Honda > 86 VF700C Magna, Honda > 86 XR600, Honda > 85 XR350, Honda > 89 TW200, Yam > > The only thing worth dying for is living. > It's not smart people that live to be old, It's lucky people. > Sabre shock Altering is the answer to "The Meaning of Life" > (honda magna,honda sabre,V65,1100cc,vf750s,vf700s,vf700c,vf750c,honda > interceptor,vfr750f) > > (honda > magnum,v45,750cc,vf750,vf700,vfr750,vfr800,vfr800f,vf1000,vf1000f) > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andy.doyle@bt.com Subject: RE: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications Date: 08 Dec 1999 10:16:12 -0000 I imported a Cycle Gear airbox (Jesse has now taken over the manufacture of these under the brand name Vortex) from the States a couple of years ago, but didn't get the recommended carb mods coz of the logistics of the workshop being a few thousand miles away and me needing the bike back on the road in 2 hours. Without the mods, and with a bit of concertina tubing to connect the different sized airbox outlet and cam-shaped carb inlet instead of a nice smooth pipe, I get the following: 1) 1st gear wheelies off the throttle (no clutch) 2) About 20 yards dragging against a '99 unmodified DR up to 60, 30 yards at 80 and about 5mph top end 3) Loads more low-down torque, but not much noticeable difference at full throttle 4) A nicer noise than the stock lawn mower sound It's been on the bike over 15,000 miles now, so there's no reliability implication. Mine's jetted up to 147.5, which is probably slightly rich, but the 142 I had in before was cooking the engine. The jets only cost a couple of quid each..you have to take the bottom off the carb (2 screws), unscrew the old jet (the slotted brass thing with a hole in it, dead centre) and screw the new one in..hardly rocket science, so you can try a few and see which works best. Check the plug after a run to make sure in's not too sooty (jet too big) or too light (jet too small). Overall I reckon it was money well spent and would recommend it to anyone..but I think it would be even better with the carb mod (was included in the Cycle Gear price) and a smooth-flow inlet pipe. The next thing on my shopping list is the big bore kit from these guys at Silverstone, and no import duty! http://www.tts-performance.co.uk/tts.shtml Cheers! Andy Doyle '96 DR350 SE, 33000 miles and kicking > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Spooner [SMTP:Andrew@Jasma.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 08 December 1999 00:11 > To: dr350 > Subject: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications > > Can anybody advise me on how much difference their is between a new Vortex > airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox with a k+n filter. > > The price between the two is somewhat different especially with the > shipping costs to me in the u.k. > > I'd also appreciate some advice on the following, apart from being a pig > to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs like a dream until I > open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. I'm > worried about changing the settings because other than this the bike runs > great. > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Corsaro Subject: Re: (dr350) Thinking of buying a 94 DR350 Date: 08 Dec 1999 02:32:11 -0800 Jeff, You can plug up the starter motor hole, and buy the shaft, gear, pawl, lever, and all the other small parts for the kick starter assembly. I don't think its is worth it. You will save close to 20 lbs, dumping the electric starter, starter reduction gears/clutch and battery. But all the extra wiring, instrumentation, lights, locks, emissions junk, and steel gas tank still weigh another 20 lbs more than the dirt only, DR350. If you are looking for a used DR that only has the kick starter, wait for one to come along or buy the dirt only DR and add the street lighting. It is a lot easier to add lights to the DR350 than, to subtract the starter and battery circuit from a DR350SE. If you take the battery out, the tach and turn signals will not work, and you will eventually burn the voltage regulator up. It is possible to re-wire the bike for use with out the battery, again it is more work than its worth. That's the most miles I have ever seen on a XL! One of my buddies XL has less than 10,000 miles, and it is in need of new valves and rings. Jeff Corsaro in San Diego jlilien@slip.net wrote: > I have had an XL600R for many years, wore it out, and sold it a few months > ago. Rather than fix it (it had over 40K miles) I though that I would try > to get a lighter dual sport bike, that was more dirt oriented that the XL. > I have found a 94 DR350 that seems to be in very good condition, less than > 6K miles, but I have some questions and perhaps someone here can comment. > > Is it possible to fit a kick starter to it and remove the electric starter. > It looks like that there is a rubber plug in the case were the kick start > would go. If I do that, how much weight will it save. > > Can I run the bike without a battery. > > The bike coughs a bit when I close the throttle from high revs, not a real > backfire, but a noticable hickup. It has an FMF exhaust on it. Is this a > problem, or that something DR350s do. > > Anything specific I should look out for before I buy it. > > If anyone in the San Francisco Bay area has a 93 Dr350 for sale, the one > without an electric start, but as I understand it, easier starting that the > 90 through 92s, I would be interested in hearing about it. > > Thanks alot, > > Jeff > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aches@deltech.net (Chesley, Andrus) Subject: (dr350) NKLR: Moon Date: 09 Dec 1999 07:24:40 -0600 This year will be the first full moon to occur on the winter solstice, Dec. 22, commonly called the first day of winter. Since a full moon on the winter solstice occurred in conjunction with a lunar perigee (point in the moon's orbit that is closest to Earth). The moon will appear about 14% larger than it does at apogee (the point in it's elliptical orbit that is farthest from the Earth)since the Earth is also several million miles closer to the sun at this time of the year than in the summer, sunlight striking the moon is about 7% stronger making it brighter. Also, this will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the year since the moon's orbit is constantly deforming. If the weather is clear and there is a snow cover where you live, it is believed that even car headlights will be superfluous. On December 21st 1866 the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on soldiers in the Wyoming Territory. In laymen's terms it will be a super bright full moon, much more than the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for133 years. Our ancestors saw this 133 years ago. Our descendants100 or so years from now will see this again. -- Cheers and Best Regards Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking Jennings, La. 97 R11RA, 97 DR350SET(forsale $2800) ,KLR A14 "So Many Roads, So Little Time" http://members/deltech.net/aches Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JCHol@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Re: Lowering links - 1999 DR 350 SE Date: 09 Dec 1999 09:17:49 EST Norm, G Got 'em installed, tried 'em out, and liked 'em. Not only is the bike a bit lower, which suits my riding style, but the rear end behaves better. Wish I had done this modification on day one! Good job on your design modification. Regards, John Holliman over the hill guy Lafayette, LA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CGUBERA@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Moon Date: 09 Dec 1999 12:26:46 EST Sounds like a great night to forget about jetting and suspension settings and go for a ride!... CG in nor cal In a message dated 12/9/99 6:27:53 AM, aches@deltech.net writes: << This year will be the first full moon to occur on the winter solstice, Dec. 22, commonly called the first day of winter. Since a full moon on the winter solstice occurred in conjunction with a lunar perigee (point in the moon's orbit that is closest to Earth). The moon will appear about 14% larger than it does at apogee (the point in it's elliptical orbit that is farthest from the Earth)since the Earth is also several million miles closer to the sun at this time of the year than in the summer, sunlight striking the moon is about 7% stronger making it brighter. Also, this will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the year since the moon's orbit is constantly deforming. If the weather is clear and there is a snow cover where you live, it is believed that even car headlights will be superfluous. On December 21st 1866 the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on soldiers in the Wyoming Territory. In laymen's terms it will be a super bright full moon, much more than the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for133 years. Our ancestors saw this 133 years ago. Our descendants100 or so years from now will see this again. >> Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BEEMERDON@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Carb problem on 94 dr350 Date: 09 Dec 1999 19:24:12 EST In a message dated 99-12-07 21:54:13 EST, you write: << Are there any suggestions as I am hesitant to ride her further than I feel comfortable about walking? >> On the right side of the carb there ae two black hoses. The one towards the rear of the bike is the vent for the float bowl. Some guys will tell you to T that but just pull the end of it down from under the airbox somewhere and zip tie it to the wire that holds the idle speed screw on the left side of the carb. What can happen--maybe this is your problem--is gas gets into that vent hose, which is pointed UP instead of down, and makes it unable to draw air. Think of the p-trap under your sink where water in the trap prevents sewer gas from coming into your house. When gas collexts in the vent hose it prevents it from venting the float bowl and it's like you are running out of gas. Mark Hyde from Suzuki fixed mine (and several others) at the Honda Hoot and no more problems!! Don Sprinkle '94 dr350se Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) DR bar layout... Date: 09 Dec 1999 19:54:50 EST Chris... riding during the full moon... that must mean your bike is back together! Say, when you swapped to the 91 upsidedown RMX forks, did the top triple clamp sit the bars more forward compared to the stock DR top triple clamp?? That to me would be an added benefit as I'm realizing the cramped seat/peg/bar is terrible for standing. To all you guys who reminded me to rotate the bars forward... I did try that to the point of it looking wierd it was so far forward...yet still not comfortable... Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Kouba Subject: (dr350) [Fwd: [Fwd: MSNBC Forest closure survey]] Date: 09 Dec 1999 22:04:46 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------44818BBADC3288273B7025AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------44818BBADC3288273B7025AC Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from mx20.rmci.net ([205.162.184.63]) by mail06.dfw.mindspring.net (Mindspring/Netcom Mail Service) with SMTP id s50q9u.u4v.33qs88a for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22747 invoked from network); 10 Dec 1999 02:45:16 -0000 Received: from usr-boi-216.rmci.net (HELO rmci.net) (206.159.113.92) by halcyon.rmci.net with SMTP; 10 Dec 1999 02:45:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3850698F.AF15D2DD@rmci.net> Reply-To: itma@rmci.net Organization: His Own X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D2CA3442F6ECD38E1A2330E0" X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D2CA3442F6ECD38E1A2330E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Norm, Pass this on!!!!! 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Whenever, I stand, I have to make a conscious choice between having my legs ahead of the frame which puts my body on top of the bars, or behind the frame which is the more ideal position for weight but makes it difficult to shift from the standing position. It's quite uncomfortable to stand straight up. This is the first dirt bike I've had that this is a problem on. It's a much more comfortable sit-on bike. Has anyone else experienced this? Harral Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CGUBERA@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergos Date: 10 Dec 1999 12:52:29 EST I have, but I have the Magic Airbox which sticks out about 1/2 inch on one side. I have gotten used to it after having it modified once with marginal success. Chris in Nor Cal In a message dated 12/10/99 10:21:27 AM, chasmatic@email.msn.com writes: << With the discussion regarding the height of the bars on DRs and their effect on riding in the standing position, I'm wondering if anyone else has a problem with the width of the frame in the calf area. Whenever, I stand, I have to make a conscious choice between having my legs ahead of the frame which puts my body on top of the bars, or behind the frame which is the more ideal position for weight but makes it difficult to shift from the standing position. It's quite uncomfortable to stand straight up. This is the first dirt bike I've had that this is a problem on. It's a much more comfortable sit-on bike. Has anyone else experienced this? Harral >> Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Lara" Subject: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 10:15:18 -0800 I own a '94 DR350SE. Everything is stock, except for the addition of Acerbis plastic. I would like to remove the charcoal canister (for closed-course operation only, of course). The charcoal canister collects gasoline fumes venting from the tank so the fumes can be sucked back into the carb when the engine is running--a great idea. However, every time I drop the bike (an event that occurs more frequently that I care to admit) the engine stalls and is impossible to start. I understand that tipping the bike floods the canister with liquid gasoline causing the carb to suck liquid fuel into places it expects a fuel-air mixture, thereby flooding the engine. At that point, I have two options: wait 15 minutes until the charcoal starts drying out; or bump start the bike by riding down a long hill. It seems that running the electric starter makes the spark too weak to fire up the engine when flooded. Throttle position makes no difference. Before removing the charcoal canister, I am trying to figure out the best way to: 1) Plug up the hole in the carburetor that accepts the hose running from the charcoal canister. 2) Safely vent the gas tank. I would appreciate any suggestions from you guys. Best regards, --Greg Ph: 408-428-6251 greg@aptix.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) DR bar layout... Date: 10 Dec 1999 13:35:02 EST Chris, Great bike!.. I got to ride Johns big DR and it was WORLDS better than my stock 91... so is that the bike that snapped the stem??? Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Sims" Subject: Re: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 13:38:54 -0500 Hi Greg, I used to have that problem, especially when dropped on the right side. Then I got a pumper carb kit and Vortex airbox. The improvement in power and throttle response is dramatic - but I also noticed that when I drop the bike it starts with no problem at all. I don't know if everyone will concur with this - but that is my experience. I don't know if you want to go to that expense, but I thought you might want to know of the fringe benefit of getting the pumper carb. Regards...Mark Atlanta, GA '98 DR350SE Greg Lara wrote: > > I own a '94 DR350SE. Everything is stock, except for the addition of Acerbis > plastic. > > I would like to remove the charcoal canister (for closed-course operation > only, of course). The charcoal canister collects gasoline fumes venting from > the tank so the fumes can be sucked back into the carb when the engine is > running--a great idea. However, every time I drop the bike (an event that > occurs more frequently that I care to admit) the engine stalls and is > impossible to start. I understand that tipping the bike floods the canister > with liquid gasoline causing the carb to suck liquid fuel into places it > expects a fuel-air mixture, thereby flooding the engine. At that point, I > have two options: wait 15 minutes until the charcoal starts drying out; or > bump start the bike by riding down a long hill. It seems that running the > electric starter makes the spark too weak to fire up the engine when > flooded. Throttle position makes no difference. > > Before removing the charcoal canister, I am trying to figure out the best > way to: > 1) Plug up the hole in the carburetor that accepts the hose running from the > charcoal canister. > 2) Safely vent the gas tank. > > I would appreciate any suggestions from you guys. > > Best regards, > > --Greg > > Ph: 408-428-6251 > greg@aptix.com > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Korb" Subject: Re: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 14:28:29 -0800 Greg, I have the same bike and I've removed the charcoal canister. As far as I know these canisters exist only on the California model DR's. It's there for smog reasons because California is off the deep end about stuff like this. It works as a storage container for gas fumes from the tank and then routes them back into the carb when the bike is moving at speed. I removed my canister very shortly after purchasing my bike for fear of the exact flooding reasons you described. To plug the hole where the canister originally connects to the carb, I used a short length (1.5 inches or so) of sturdy rubber hose. In order for this work I had to find a way to plug one end of the hose and slide the other end over the carb connection sealing it off. A buddy of mine had a heat gun, so I heated up the hose to make it softer and I literally screwed a wood screw all the way into one of the hose ends. After making sure it was firmly in place and completely sealed, I heated the other end of the hose and then pushed right onto the vent in the carb. After cooling for a bit, it was totally anchored to the carb and there is no way this plug is ever to going to fall off during riding. This is not an elegant way to plug the carb vent but there is a reason why I'm using this ugly contraption. I wanted to have the freedom to remove this plug at a later time if I chose to do so. I can heat this tubing up before removal and pull it right off without it breaking. I also didn't want to have a problem pulling the hose out or gripping it properly. The screw serves as a very nice handle to pull on and also reinforces the end of the tubing so it won't break during removal. I'm sure there are better ways to do this job, but this is what I came up with. As far as venting the tank, I didn't do anything at all to my tank after removing the smog canister and everything's been fine, it's just not as "enviro-friendly" as it was before. Good luck in whatever you decide on. Rob. >I own a '94 DR350SE. Everything is stock, except for the addition of Acerbis >plastic. > >I would like to remove the charcoal canister (for closed-course operation >only, of course). The charcoal canister collects gasoline fumes venting from >the tank so the fumes can be sucked back into the carb when the engine is >running--a great idea. However, every time I drop the bike (an event that >occurs more frequently that I care to admit) the engine stalls and is >impossible to start. I understand that tipping the bike floods the canister >with liquid gasoline causing the carb to suck liquid fuel into places it >expects a fuel-air mixture, thereby flooding the engine. At that point, I >have two options: wait 15 minutes until the charcoal starts drying out; or >bump start the bike by riding down a long hill. It seems that running the >electric starter makes the spark too weak to fire up the engine when >flooded. Throttle position makes no difference. > >Before removing the charcoal canister, I am trying to figure out the best >way to: >1) Plug up the hole in the carburetor that accepts the hose running from the >charcoal canister. >2) Safely vent the gas tank. > >I would appreciate any suggestions from you guys. > > >Best regards, > >--Greg > >Ph: 408-428-6251 >greg@aptix.com > > >Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html >Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trail Rider Subject: Re: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 14:39:31 -0600 Greg Lara wrote: > Before removing the charcoal canister, I am trying to figure out the best > way to: > 1) Plug up the hole in the carburetor that accepts the hose running from the > charcoal canister. > 2) Safely vent the gas tank. I removed the charcoal cannister and all the extra hoses also. Don't plug up the hole in the carb, it will run like crap if you do (been there, done that). What I did was run the tube out of the carb straight down. I tried putting a paper filter in it, but that was too much of a resriction and it ran like crap even with that. There are two vent hoses, I tie wrapped them together and ran both of them straight down. Now if you fall over gas will run out the tubes (just like in a 2 stroke), but it vents out quickly and should be easy to start. As for the gas tank, I just made a paper filter in a hose that's about one inch long and attached the other end of the hose to the gas tank vent and leave it dangling. Everything seems to work great, YMMV. I can now go over whoops without any hesitation or drop it and it starts right up. -- Scott Aldrich '98 Suzuki DR350SE '85 Honda CR125R '74 Yamaha DT125A Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Lara" Subject: RE: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 15:01:28 -0800 Dear Scott, Thank you for your advise, especially to leave the hole in the carburetor as is. Your message raises two questions, though. 1) If the hole in the carb is designed to draw vapors from the canister, and you leave the passage open, don't you run the risk of sucking dust and dirt into the carb? Is this dangerous? 2) I would like to know more details about the paper filter you fashioned for the gas tank vent. Thanks again. --Greg -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 12:40 PM Cc: dr350@lists.xmission.com Greg Lara wrote: > Before removing the charcoal canister, I am trying to figure out the best > way to: > 1) Plug up the hole in the carburetor that accepts the hose running from the > charcoal canister. > 2) Safely vent the gas tank. I removed the charcoal cannister and all the extra hoses also. Don't plug up the hole in the carb, it will run like crap if you do (been there, done that). What I did was run the tube out of the carb straight down. I tried putting a paper filter in it, but that was too much of a resriction and it ran like crap even with that. There are two vent hoses, I tie wrapped them together and ran both of them straight down. Now if you fall over gas will run out the tubes (just like in a 2 stroke), but it vents out quickly and should be easy to start. As for the gas tank, I just made a paper filter in a hose that's about one inch long and attached the other end of the hose to the gas tank vent and leave it dangling. Everything seems to work great, YMMV. I can now go over whoops without any hesitation or drop it and it starts right up. -- Scott Aldrich '98 Suzuki DR350SE '85 Honda CR125R '74 Yamaha DT125A Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Lara" Subject: RE: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 15:47:05 -0800 Guy, Thank you for your advice. It sounds like I should have taken these steps years ago. By the way, have you performed any suspension modifications? If so, I would be curious to know the details. I am finally starting to ride fast enough to warrant making some changes. Best regards, --Greg -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 3:26 PM Greg: I had the same bike 94SE - loved it. One of the other patrons of this forum suggested the pumper carb and a Vortex airbox. I too suggest the same - without question. Best $500 your spend. I did the mods on my bike for about $500 total. You can get the pumper from CycleGear phone order (1800CycleGear) for $200 bucks. Jessie sells the Airbox and the intake spacer you will need when putting on the pumper. Jessie has designed the intake space with a vacuum inlet stem for the hose running from the petcock valve. You will also need to replace the current intake manifold with a "dirt" DR manifold - $30 bucks from Midwest Action Cycle. Take off the canister as you do not need it. You will also need to rejet the carb to 142.5 as Jessie specifies because of the larger airbox - $.95 from CycleGear. The end result will be not more problems, at all when you lay it down and the performance difference, particularly on a track or in rutty conditions will be light years different - no more sputtering after running hard through whoops or of jumps (that carb is not designed for aggressive offroad conditions). If you don't want to make the modes my suggestion is to remove the canister and run the pet cock line directly into the inlet on the carb bypassing all of the needless CA emissions spaghetti. Regardless of your choice, you will need to attach that petcock hose to a vacuum source to avoid vapor locks in the tank. Good luck, and if you have questions call Jessie - he walked me through the changes (the guy is the DR350 Yoda). Total mods took me 3 hours. No post work adjustments required. Regards, Guy S. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Greg Lara Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 10:15 AM I own a '94 DR350SE. Everything is stock, except for the addition of Acerbis plastic. I would like to remove the charcoal canister (for closed-course operation only, of course). The charcoal canister collects gasoline fumes venting from the tank so the fumes can be sucked back into the carb when the engine is running--a great idea. However, every time I drop the bike (an event that occurs more frequently that I care to admit) the engine stalls and is impossible to start. I understand that tipping the bike floods the canister with liquid gasoline causing the carb to suck liquid fuel into places it expects a fuel-air mixture, thereby flooding the engine. At that point, I have two options: wait 15 minutes until the charcoal starts drying out; or bump start the bike by riding down a long hill. It seems that running the electric starter makes the spark too weak to fire up the engine when flooded. Throttle position makes no difference. Before removing the charcoal canister, I am trying to figure out the best way to: 1) Plug up the hole in the carburetor that accepts the hose running from the charcoal canister. 2) Safely vent the gas tank. I would appreciate any suggestions from you guys. Best regards, --Greg Ph: 408-428-6251 greg@aptix.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SFBREIZH@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (dr350)DR bar layout solution Date: 10 Dec 1999 19:31:26 EST --part1_0.111d9f26.2582f55e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_0.111d9f26.2582f55e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: SFBREIZH@aol.com Full-name: SFBREIZH Message-ID: <0.c0a08084.2582979b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 available from Thumper racing:BAR ELEVATORS,1" or 1 1/2" I got the 1 1/2",I am 6' and it si much better,the bar elevator goes up+ foward.. Thumper racing:1-800-259-5186...cost:$89.00 Also if you just want to raise the bar,just get 2 extra bar clamps and use them as spacer with longer screws works great. Guy 350 dr 91 650 klr97 250 helix86 --part1_0.111d9f26.2582f55e_boundary-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Lara" Subject: RE: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 17:34:12 -0800 Rob, Thank you for the tips. --Greg -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rob Korb Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 2:28 PM Greg, I have the same bike and I've removed the charcoal canister. As far as I know these canisters exist only on the California model DR's. It's there for smog reasons because California is off the deep end about stuff like this. It works as a storage container for gas fumes from the tank and then routes them back into the carb when the bike is moving at speed. I removed my canister very shortly after purchasing my bike for fear of the exact flooding reasons you described. To plug the hole where the canister originally connects to the carb, I used a short length (1.5 inches or so) of sturdy rubber hose. In order for this work I had to find a way to plug one end of the hose and slide the other end over the carb connection sealing it off. A buddy of mine had a heat gun, so I heated up the hose to make it softer and I literally screwed a wood screw all the way into one of the hose ends. After making sure it was firmly in place and completely sealed, I heated the other end of the hose and then pushed right onto the vent in the carb. After cooling for a bit, it was totally anchored to the carb and there is no way this plug is ever to going to fall off during riding. This is not an elegant way to plug the carb vent but there is a reason why I'm using this ugly contraption. I wanted to have the freedom to remove this plug at a later time if I chose to do so. I can heat this tubing up before removal and pull it right off without it breaking. I also didn't want to have a problem pulling the hose out or gripping it properly. The screw serves as a very nice handle to pull on and also reinforces the end of the tubing so it won't break during removal. I'm sure there are better ways to do this job, but this is what I came up with. As far as venting the tank, I didn't do anything at all to my tank after removing the smog canister and everything's been fine, it's just not as "enviro-friendly" as it was before. Good luck in whatever you decide on. Rob. >I own a '94 DR350SE. Everything is stock, except for the addition of Acerbis >plastic. > >I would like to remove the charcoal canister (for closed-course operation >only, of course). The charcoal canister collects gasoline fumes venting from >the tank so the fumes can be sucked back into the carb when the engine is >running--a great idea. However, every time I drop the bike (an event that >occurs more frequently that I care to admit) the engine stalls and is >impossible to start. I understand that tipping the bike floods the canister >with liquid gasoline causing the carb to suck liquid fuel into places it >expects a fuel-air mixture, thereby flooding the engine. At that point, I >have two options: wait 15 minutes until the charcoal starts drying out; or >bump start the bike by riding down a long hill. It seems that running the >electric starter makes the spark too weak to fire up the engine when >flooded. Throttle position makes no difference. > >Before removing the charcoal canister, I am trying to figure out the best >way to: >1) Plug up the hole in the carburetor that accepts the hose running from the >charcoal canister. >2) Safely vent the gas tank. > >I would appreciate any suggestions from you guys. > > >Best regards, > >--Greg > >Ph: 408-428-6251 >greg@aptix.com > > >Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html >Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trail Rider Subject: Re: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 10 Dec 1999 20:19:38 -0800 oGreg Lara wrote: > > Dear Scott, > > Thank you for your advise, especially to leave the hole in the carburetor as > is. Your message raises two questions, though. > > 1) If the hole in the carb is designed to draw vapors from the canister, and > you leave the passage open, don't you run the risk of sucking dust and dirt > into the carb? Is this dangerous? I have used this set-up all summer long. I ride in very dusty areas and recently in mud and have had no problem. Now make sure we're talking about the same vent. There is a hose that runs to your petcock. That's the vacuum hose and you should not mess with it. I took the other two hoses and ran them both straight down. As far as I can tell, there is no vacuum in these lines and they are used only for venting or allowing fuel to run out of them. If you drop the bike on its side after you run the hoses down, gas will pour out of them just like a 2 stroke carb. This should be no more dangerous than a 2 stroke. The other thing is when you have the choke on after you run the hoses down, if you lean the bike to the right (major lean) it will try to die. Once you turn off the choke, you will have no more problems. You can try it and if you don't like it, then you can revert back to stock. Make sure you make a map of the hoses before you disconnect them so you can put them back if you want to. > > 2) I would like to know more details about the paper filter you fashioned > for the gas tank vent. It was quite simple actually. I just bought some of the clear hose that is used in the carbs for 2 strokes. I took some paper towel and rolled a small piece semi-tight and inserted it into one end of the tube. I then tie-wrapped the end around the paper tight enough so it wouldn't come out, but not so tight as to close off the tube. I then attached the other end of the tube to the gas tank and tie-wrapped it on there. This way you can see if it gets dirty. Good luck! -- Scott Aldrich '98 Suzuki DR350SE '85 Honda CR125R '74 Yamaha DT125A Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Korb" Subject: Re: (dr350) Charcoal canister Date: 11 Dec 1999 09:14:35 -0800 Scott, I was interested to find out more when I read about not plugging the carb port connecting the gas fume recirc hose. I rode my bike yesterday with the plug removed but didn't notice any difference in performance than with the plug in. Are the street carbs on the 98's different than the ones on the 94's? If they are, perhaps this is the reason for why your bike ran poorly with the port plugged. who knows. I guess if I had to do this in the future on another bike I would try both ways and go with whatever worked best. See ya, Rob. > I removed the charcoal cannister and all the extra hoses also. > > Don't plug up the hole in the carb, it will run like crap if you do >(been there, done that). What I did was run the tube out of the carb >straight down. I tried putting a paper filter in it, but that was too >much of a resriction and it ran like crap even with that. There are two >vent hoses, I tie wrapped them together and ran both of them straight >down. Now if you fall over gas will run out the tubes (just like in a 2 >stroke), but it vents out quickly and should be easy to start. >-- >Scott Aldrich >'98 Suzuki DR350SE >'85 Honda CR125R >'74 Yamaha DT125A Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAld277@aol.com Subject: (dr350) (DR350) Riders call to action! Date: 11 Dec 1999 13:06:56 EST I thought you all might be interested in helping to save our rights as ORV=20 users. A couple of minutes of your time to respond to the sites below could help=20 save our riding areas. Also pass this on to other lists and friends so we ca= n=20 put a stop to this nonsense You may want to print this out so you can follow the steps. Below are two=20 website links for two different purposes. 1) This first link is to the US Forestry site. In the middle of the first=20 page is a link in red letters which reads "Comment on the Proposed Rule". =20 Click this link. You will go to a page where you enter your name and email=20 address, and below it is a comment box. Type your comments into the box. =20 Keep it brief and to the point. These comments go to the US Forestry=20 department. If you want some guidance on what to say, there are a couple of= =20 samples at the bottom of this page. Click here: NFMA PROPOSED R= ULE=20 NOTEBOOK=A0 TABLE OF CONTENTS Last Updated 9=20 ( http://www.fs.fed.us/forum/nepa/rule/index.html ) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 2) This next link is to a voting site hosted by MSNBC. When you go there,=20 you will see an article primarily directed at snowmobiles... but if you read= =20 carefully, it is actually an attack on all forms of off-road. About half wa= y=20 down the page on the left hand side there is a voting box. Click the "NO"=20 button (that is, we do not favor greater restrictions on ORV's). Click here: New push= to=20 ban off-road vehicles ( http://www.msnbc.com/news/325936.asp#body ) **Save this URL address as a Favorite Place or Bookmark. Go back and vote=20 again as many times as you want.** =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3) Lastly, you can e-mail your comments (perhaps the same stuff you wrote o= n=20 the USFS site) to: roadless/wo_caet-slc@fs.fed.us (Use your mouse to highlight this address, then copy it, then paste it into=20 your "write mail" screen). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Examples for comments box on USFS site are below: ***************** I am AGAINST the closure of any public land. My family and I are avid=20 off-road enthusiasts. We do not want any land declared as "roadless". Please leave the public land open to us, the public. ***************** I am firmly AGAINST using a wilderness designation to prevent the public use= =20 of public land. There is no excuse for closing me out of my own recreationa= l=20 areas. The land is there for people to use and enjoy. We cannot enjoy it i= f=20 we have no access to it. ***************** There is very little good in the proposed increase of wilderness lands, and=20 there are a lot of wrongs. Do not close our national lands to people. These are public lands and I am the public, a US citizen and an owner of the= =20 land. I WILL NOT BE CLOSED OUT OF MY OWN LAND! ****************************** Special thanks to Bill (Watchdawg) Malec, Keith Obermeyer, Ed Larosche, and=20 Steve Schaffer for the research on these topics and for sending the links to= =20 us. Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (dr350) ride underway... Date: 12 Dec 1999 08:16:17 -0700 Forgive me if this has been posted but Linda and Jeff have a great ride underway and they post often to their website: http://www.aracnet.com/~anspach/tripjournals.html Kurt Simpson Editor Dual Sport News www.dualsport.org Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trail Rider Subject: Re: (dr350) Charcoal canister and jumping Date: 12 Dec 1999 09:36:39 -0800 Rob Korb wrote: > I was interested to find out more when I read about not plugging the carb > port connecting the gas fume recirc hose. I rode my bike yesterday with the > plug removed but didn't notice any difference in performance than with the > plug in. > > Are the street carbs on the 98's different than the ones on the 94's? If > they are, perhaps this is the reason for why your bike ran poorly with the > port plugged. > > who knows. I guess if I had to do this in the future on another > bike I would try both ways and go with whatever worked best. I can't recall the exact behavior, but I'm pretty sure that when I plugged up the vent, I couldn't use the throttle when the choke was on. I'll have to go back through my notes or set it up again to see what the reasons were. On a different note, I finally cleared a tabletop that I'd been working up to. The jump is about 30-40 feet across (I haven't measured it) and has a pretty steep incline that you have to climb while getting up to speed. I hit it almost wide open in third gear just as some rain hit which allowed for optimum traction. What a great feeling. That jump was one of my goals for my 40th birthday (sheesh, I'm getting old). It took me about 10 visits in 10 months to finally do it (I guess I'm pretty slow at working up to it also :-). Now I've gotta clear it on the CR. The CR seems to be tougher because it doesn't have the ability that the DR has to put horsepower to the ground and tractor up the hill before the jump. The DR allows me to get up to proper speed, and be in control when/if I pull the trigger. When I hit it on the CR, it gets squirelly and out of control and I usually end up backing off before the jump. Also, it looks like it'll require 4th gear on the CR, and it doesn't have the power to pull 4th with the way I ride it (I've seen others on CR125's clear it, so I'm pretty sure it's me). I'll keep working on it. Just some observations by me but others may find things a bit different. -- Scott Aldrich '98 Suzuki DR350SE '85 Honda CR125R '74 Yamaha DT125A __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. D. & Raydonia" Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergos Date: 12 Dec 1999 13:07:43 -0900 Harral, You can solve your problem with the frame,and worst of all the kick starter, annoying your stand-up riding...and improve the ergos,balance,suspension,traction(weighting), and overall manners. Move the footpegs 1.5" - 2" rearward and enjoy a completely different scooter...that rewards you for standing.It's a little bit of work,but it's the first mod I'd make to a DR...but then I like to ride standing up. J.D. Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john miller Subject: (dr350) Carb question Date: 12 Dec 1999 16:19:35 -0800 (PST) Hello Jesse I have another question for you. Now that my DR is set up better for off road riding I am now able to tackle whoops at a higher speed. I as well as my comrade are getting a short cut out of motor when we land hard over these whoops. My guess is that the trap door on our CV carbs are slapping shut momentarily upon impact causing this split second "hiccup". Are there any tricks or gizmos you know of to help us out and is my guess correct? This is not to be confused with the bog that the t-vent took care of for us. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Jackson Subject: (dr350) '98 DR350SE for sale Date: 12 Dec 1999 21:48:53 -0700 1998 SR350SE for sale. 2600 miles 300 miles on new MT21 rear tire 200 miles on new MT21 front tire 200 miles on new 47 tooth rear sprocket Baja Designs heavy duty chain guide rear rim lock T-vent modification factory service manual Always used semi or full synthetic oil Moose rear fender bag $3800 Located in Chandler, AZ For more info: 480-899-6618 or jeff.jackson7@worldnet.att.net ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kisntz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) Carb question Date: 12 Dec 1999 22:56:02 -0800 Hi John, My theory for this is that the only thing that holds the slide up is a vacuum and with a hard hit the slide momentarily is forced down by G force and then is pulled back up by the vacuum again the dirt carb is not bothered by this because it is held open directly by the throttle cable. thats your next option the (dirt carb) along with one of my spacers to clear the starter. let me know when you are ready. merry christmas, Jesse -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of john miller Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 4:20 PM Hello Jesse I have another question for you. Now that my DR is set up better for off road riding I am now able to tackle whoops at a higher speed. I as well as my comrade are getting a short cut out of motor when we land hard over these whoops. My guess is that the trap door on our CV carbs are slapping shut momentarily upon impact causing this split second "hiccup". Are there any tricks or gizmos you know of to help us out and is my guess correct? This is not to be confused with the bog that the t-vent took care of for us. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) dr clutch arm Date: 14 Dec 1999 12:14:27 EST Jesse... you seem to be coming out with some great products for our bikes... how about a slightly longer clutch actuating arm for an easier pull? White Bros. sells a PEP arm but says it only fits 95,96 DR models??? All day aggressive riding and my upper arms are so tired.. every little bit would help Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) DR ergos Date: 14 Dec 1999 12:20:51 EST JD, Well allright, someone else thinks the pegs are to far forward putting the bars in my lap!!!(I'm 6'1'') Did you cut and reweld to get them 2" back??.. I've been staring at both peg mounts trying to figure out how... Thank you Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ThunderSUB" Subject: Re: (dr350) dr clutch arm Date: 15 Dec 1999 00:04:51 -0000 Hi guys, I have the PEP E-Z Arm (WB P/N 76-122) + a Terminator Clutch Cable (WB P/N 49-159) and in my opinion they are worth every penny ($19.95 + $26.20). My DR is a '93 DR-S and I am using it without any problems. Installation was very simple (I replaced the clutch cable also). The clutch pull is a lot easier and effortless now. The feel is also excellent. I ordered it from WB. I just don't know which one of the parts (the arm or the new cable) made the biggest improvement, but the combo works great ! Just get it ! Hope ThunderSUB (Claudio) Lisbon, Portugal http://drive.to/thundersub thundersub@ip.pt ICQ# [3072424] * 1982 Honda Dax 70 * 1993 Suzuki DR377 S * 1999 Yamaha YZF-R1 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug Bragg Subject: (dr350) clutch cable, was RE: dr clutch arm Date: 14 Dec 1999 17:28:50 -0800 Speaking of clutch cables, on any ride where you plan on riding any distance away from civilization, carry a spare clutch cable. I do, I pack in my toolkit that I strap onto my Dual Star rack on the rear fender. If anyone hasn't seen my list of goodies that I always carry riding, here it the link to my web page: http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/myride.html and http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/gearlist.html -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 4:05 PM Hi guys, I have the PEP E-Z Arm (WB P/N 76-122) + a Terminator Clutch Cable (WB P/N 49-159) and in my opinion they are worth every penny ($19.95 + $26.20). My DR is a '93 DR-S and I am using it without any problems. Installation was very simple (I replaced the clutch cable also). The clutch pull is a lot easier and effortless now. The feel is also excellent. I ordered it from WB. I just don't know which one of the parts (the arm or the new cable) made the biggest improvement, but the combo works great ! Just get it ! Hope ThunderSUB (Claudio) Lisbon, Portugal http://drive.to/thundersub thundersub@ip.pt ICQ# [3072424] * 1982 Honda Dax 70 * 1993 Suzuki DR377 S * 1999 Yamaha YZF-R1 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kisntz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) dr clutch arm Date: 14 Dec 1999 21:56:58 -0800 Hi Guy, this is really bazarr that you should ask, because I just ordered some today they are really trick looking they are cnc machined from billit aluminum and should make a big difference on the clutch pull I have a barnett set in mine and it is stiff. I should have them by next week I plan on retailing them for 27.00 including shipping. merry Christmas to you and yours. Jesse -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Comobu@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:14 AM Jesse... you seem to be coming out with some great products for our bikes... how about a slightly longer clutch actuating arm for an easier pull? White Bros. sells a PEP arm but says it only fits 95,96 DR models??? All day aggressive riding and my upper arms are so tired.. every little bit would help Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) clutches arms.. cables Date: 15 Dec 1999 12:57:11 EST ...good tip Doug.. Thanks. Jesse, I'll take one when you get 'em... mine's a 91DR. Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (dr350) clutch cable, was RE: dr clutch arm Date: 15 Dec 1999 10:18:06 -0800 > Speaking of clutch cables, on any ride where you plan on riding any > distance away from civilization, carry a spare clutch cable. I do, I pack > in my toolkit that I strap onto my Dual Star rack on the rear fender. Another trick that I know Kurt Simpson has done is to run a second cable along-side the working one... in this way, if the cable breaks on the trail, you have the new one right there handy and your down time is minimal. Arne Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug Bragg Subject: RE: (dr350) clutch cable, was RE: dr clutch arm Date: 15 Dec 1999 19:57:07 -0800 Yep, that's the bast was to carry a second cable since it doesn't take up space in a toolkit or fanny pack. I know several people who do it this way. Another trick is to seal the ends with some of that rubberized tool grip coating - the stuff you'd dip the handle of pliers in. This protects the cable from mud and other assorted gunk from getting in it. Doug -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 10:18 AM > Speaking of clutch cables, on any ride where you plan on riding any > distance away from civilization, carry a spare clutch cable. I do, I pack > in my toolkit that I strap onto my Dual Star rack on the rear fender. Another trick that I know Kurt Simpson has done is to run a second cable along-side the working one... in this way, if the cable breaks on the trail, you have the new one right there handy and your down time is minimal. Arne Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Polyjohn@aol.com Subject: (dr350) F.S. leather jacket Date: 16 Dec 1999 20:28:35 EST Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Polyjohn@aol.com Subject: (dr350) F.S. leather jacket Date: 16 Dec 1999 20:29:31 EST For sale - Intersport Fashions First Gear (Hein Gericke) leather jacket - Scout, size 44, color antique brown. Has vents front and back and on arm sleeves, MANY pockets, removable thermo liner (never worn). Jacket was professionally cleaned this past spring. Check out www.intersportfashions.com for more info. Bought new last year. Paid $525.00 US, will sell for $325.00 US + shipping. If interested, please email off list. Thanks John polyjohn@aol.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kisntz www.kientech.com" Subject: (dr350) RE: fork brace for dr350 Date: 16 Dec 1999 19:48:07 -0800 Hi Don, thanks for the reply I will let you know when they come in. hummm fork brace, looks like a do-able thing. I will scheme on it, I think one that retains the fork gaiters would be a better idea it would keep more foreign debris out of the fork seals. Maybe the next R&D project. will keep you posted on this -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:21 AM Do you or can you make a fork brace for my '94 DR350SE? The only one I have found is the one by SRC and it is just way too expensive, so I was hoping you might make something like it. Also, put me down for one of your new clutch arms when they are ready! Thanks. I read all your posts on the 350 list and we all really appreciate your help! Don Sprinkle Charlotte, NC '94 DR350se ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Staskiewicz, Frank" Subject: (dr350) DR350S Clutch Perch Date: 17 Dec 1999 10:48:30 -0500 I went with after market mirrors and would like to get a new clutch perch. The stock perch has a switch which is a part of the electric start circuit. Are there any after market perches without mirror mount that have this switch or can this switch be disabled? Thanks, Frank Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith Browning" Subject: Re: (dr350) DR350S Clutch Perch Date: 17 Dec 1999 15:27:51 -0500 This was posted by Scot350@aol.com some time ago: My 97 DR-SE won't start.....so I started tracing wire, troubleshooting. The clutch interlock switch was found to be bad......if you want to defeat this, remove the headlight shell, trace your wire from the switch to the bundle of wire harnesses behind the headlight shell, disconnect the two from the clutch switch(one has a male connector, the other a female) and reconnect the harness wires together........they must have been thinking ahead to all us offroad motonuts when they engineered that one (for a change!!!) I just did this a few minutes ago, so it works ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 10:48 AM > > I went with after market mirrors and would like to get a new clutch perch. > The stock perch has a switch which is a part of the electric start circuit. > Are there any after market perches without mirror mount that have this > switch or can this switch be disabled? > > Thanks, > > Frank > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAld277@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Land Closure Date: 18 Dec 1999 11:03:55 EST You can send an instant letter to Forestry to vote NO to the Clinton land closure. Go to the page (link below) on the AMA's website, fill in your name, etc., and click to submit it. Takes 15 seconds. Link: Click here: AMA Government Relations - Fight Clinton's land closures! Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Warr" Subject: (dr350) re: Land closure Date: 19 Dec 1999 14:33:17 -0700 >Hey Tom, I don't know whats going on but I trust your judgement >so if you want to forward me some boilerplate I'll change it a bit and >forward it off to my elected reps and whoever else you say to send >it to. As I understand, all public National Forest lands over 1000 acres that don't have roads in them will be made "roadless". In fact, many existing roads don't count. (I don't remember their terminology, but only the main access roads count as roads, all the offshoots don't.) As an example of how this will close off large tracts of land: there are only two roads that count as roads in the entire Little Belt mountain range, near Great Falls. Hence, the entire mountain range would be deemed "roadless", closing off all the forest service roads and existing trails. So goes the rest of the state. It is unbelievable, but true, as the statute is currently written. It really bothers me that those of us that recreate with motor vehicles in these publically owned lands are alligned with exploiters of the environment. In fact, we cherish it, and care for it as much, or more, than the "environment" groups. Please check out http://www.ama-cycle.org/legisltn/closures/dombeck.html Change it or just sign your name at the bottom and send it in. It would also really help if you would send a copy to your elected representatives, too. Thanks to all of you that take the time for this important issue. Tom Warr Bikermaniac Great Falls, Montana drwarr@montana.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) o-ring chains... Date: 20 Dec 1999 12:43:46 EST I'm pretty good about lubing my o-ring chain before every ride but it now has alot of muck built up... what/how do you guys out there clean your o-ring chain?? I'm tempted to use diesel/wd-40 but worry it'll wash out the grease behind the o-rings... Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Lara" Subject: RE: (dr350) o-ring chains... Date: 20 Dec 1999 10:04:17 -0800 I use WD-40 to lube the chains on all my bikes (street and dirt, all O-ring chains), because it does not pick up dirt like sticky chain lube. Guy's comment below has started me wondering if this practice would tend to remove the grease inside the links. Any thoughts? --Greg -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Comobu@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:44 AM I'm pretty good about lubing my o-ring chain before every ride but it now has alot of muck built up... what/how do you guys out there clean your o-ring chain?? I'm tempted to use diesel/wd-40 but worry it'll wash out the grease behind the o-rings... Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tbuskey@newbridge.com Subject: Re: (dr350) o-ring chains... Date: 20 Dec 1999 13:43:33 -0500 "Greg Lara" said: >I use WD-40 to lube the chains on all my bikes (street and dirt, all O-ring >chains), because it does not pick up dirt like sticky chain lube. Guy's >comment below has started me wondering if this practice would tend to remove >the grease inside the links. Any thoughts? > >--Greg 1) Most chain lubes say "O ring safe". 2) WD-40 is basically spray kerosene. It will dissolve grease, oil and (slowly) O rings. 3) Dirt Bike did a test of various chain lubes in the 80s. They had one chain w/ no lube. It wore less then the one WD-40 was used on. It's better to run your chain dry then use WD-40 on it. You make your own conclusions >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Comobu@aol.com >Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:44 AM >To: dr350@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (dr350) o-ring chains... > > >I'm pretty good about lubing my o-ring chain before every ride but it now >has >alot of muck built up... what/how do you guys out there clean your o-ring >chain?? >I'm tempted to use diesel/wd-40 but worry it'll wash out the grease behind >the o-rings... > > >Guy > >Support Dual Sport News with your subscription >http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html >Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > > >Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrds >n/page2.html >Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 >Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > -- Tom Buskey Common Sense Isn't Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Schilder59@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) o-ring chains... Date: 20 Dec 1999 14:21:52 EST The Suzuki manual says to clean the O ring chain with kerosene and only kerosene, that anything else will damage the O rings. Does WD40 have some other ingredient that causes the O ring deterioration? PS- straight kerosene in a can is hard to find these days. Used to be able to buy it at camping supply stores, but now all of the camping stoves use propane... Scott Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (dr350) o-ring chains... Date: 20 Dec 1999 11:27:16 -0800 > "Greg Lara" said: > >I use WD-40 to lube the chains on all my bikes (street and dirt, all O-ring > >chains), because it does not pick up dirt like sticky chain lube. Guy's > >comment below has started me wondering if this practice would tend to remove > >the grease inside the links. Any thoughts? > > > >--Greg > 3) Dirt Bike did a test of various chain lubes in the 80s. They had > one chain w/ no lube. It wore less then the one WD-40 was used on. > It's better to run your chain dry then use WD-40 on it. For interests sake, Mike Walburn from DualStar announced to a bunch of us at a rally last year that he uses no lube on his chains what-so-ever. Nada. He runs 'em completely dry and replaces them when necessary. His theory is that lube attracts dirt, which causes friction, which causes wear. If you are going to lube your chain though, do it AFTER you ride, not before. Doing it before will account for much of a chain's gunk picking up ability. I use chain wax, have had good results, and lube it AFTER I ride. This way it gets a chance to soak in, do it's job on the inside, and become tackless on the outside before that next ride. Cheers, Arne Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Cowger Subject: Re: (dr350) o-ring chains... Date: 20 Dec 1999 17:15:54 -0800 > I'm pretty good about lubing my o-ring chain before every ride but it now has > alot of muck built up... what/how do you guys out there clean your o-ring > chain?? > I'm tempted to use diesel/wd-40 but worry it'll wash out the grease behind > the o-rings... I've had pretty good luck with this technique: - After washing the bike (but not the chain), put the bike on a stand so the rear wheel can be rotated. - Use one of those "grunge" brushes that clean the chain on three sides. - Run the chain in both directions and with the brushes coming into the chain from both sides. - Wipe down the chain with a rag. - Apply PJ "won't fly off!" chain lube sparingly. What I do is hold an old rag behind the chain (to catch overspray) and _very_ lightly (just a thin drizzle) spray about 8 or 10 links, and then wipe them down. This leaves just a thin coating of lube on the chain, preventing a lot of muck build-up. Repeat for the next 8-10 links until the whole chain is done. Total time takes less than 5 minutes, and the chain will look almost new after each time. I believe that soaking in straight kerosene is recommended by most chain manufacturers, but that obviously requires removal from the bike. Might be a good way to start "fresh" with a clean chain. Bryan Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DBatDBA@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Re: dr350-digest V1 #225 Date: 20 Dec 1999 20:25:35 EST In a message dated 12/20/99 5:16:52 PM, owner-dr350-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << PS- straight kerosene in a can is hard to find these days. Used to be able to buy it at camping supply stores, but now all of the camping stoves use propane... >> Try lamp oil. It's available at most hardware stores. You can even get in colors. Dave Bamberger/DR350SE/RZ350/CBR600F4/Colorado Springs Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Schilder59@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Re: dr350-digest V1 #225 Date: 20 Dec 1999 20:36:20 EST Lamp Oil?! You've got to be kidding! There has got to be stuff in lamp oil that just isn't good for your chain, etc. If it is an acceptable substitute for kerosene, please justify your statement. When I use kerosene, I pour some into an oil drip pan and liberally splash it on the chain with a toothbrush. Let it drip back into the drip pan and you can use the stuff several times. Wipe the chain down with a rag and apply chain lube. Store the bike until the next day of riding. The day before I go riding, I clean the chain again with the kerosene and do not lube it. I always ride with a clean chain- no lube. The lube is for storage, not use. Scott '99DR350SE Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MREINA@webtv.net (Michael Reina) Subject: (dr350) Kouba Links? Date: 20 Dec 1999 22:36:47 -0500 (EST) Whats the story with the "Kouba Links" that are on Ludwigs list and on Kevins' DR page? I haven't heard anyone actually use them, does anybody have any comments on these, positive or negative? Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DBatDBA@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Re: dr350-digest V1 #225 Date: 20 Dec 1999 23:16:20 EST 93 FJ1200 and 97VFR750 - both 28,000+ miles each on original oem O-ring chains. Secret of O-ring chain life is keep it clean, clean, clean. Lamp oil is kerosene. It works, as does WD40, Triflow and ZEP45 (my favorite at the moment). I agree that all heavy lubing does is collect dirt and grime. Dave Bamberger/DR350SE/CBR600F/RZ350/Colorado Springs/ In a message dated 12/20/99 5:36:20 PM, Schilder59 writes: << You've got to be kidding! There has got to be stuff in lamp oil that just isn't good for your chain, etc. If it is an acceptable substitute for kerosene, please justify your statement. >> Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Warr" Subject: (dr350) re: O-ring chain manitenance Date: 20 Dec 1999 21:20:11 -0700 There are as many ways to take care of an O-ring chain as there are riders. These chain maintenance threads come up from time to time. The O-ring is meant to keep the grease inside the chain. If you wash it vigorously or use too much solvent, you will wash the grease out of it. If you lube the chain, the lube will not get past the O-rings, but will stick to them attracting dirt, which grinds them to pieces. I don't think the O-rings are affected by any commonly used solvents. I wash my chain (with the bike) just enough to remove most of the dirt, using soap sparingly. Then I dry it by riding around the block. Then I apply a light coat of either 3 in 1, WD40, or chain wax. Mainly, I want to coat the surface to keep it from rusting, and lube the O-rings themselves just a bit, and the rollers. I let the chain lube dry real well before riding in the dirt. And, I replace the chain and sprockets regularly (always in a set!) on my dual sports, about every 3-5000 miles. Tom Warr Bikermaniac Great Falls, Montana drwarr@montana.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff A. Henshaw" Subject: Re: (dr350) Kouba Links? Date: 20 Dec 1999 20:27:50 -0800 They are well worth the money. I love mine. Jesse installed a set for me, and it was like night and day especially the improvement over small stuttering ruts; very smooth now, giving more confidence over all kinds of terrain. Can't wait to see how the new springs and Gold Valves round this out! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 7:36 PM > Whats the story with the "Kouba Links" that are on Ludwigs list and on > Kevins' DR page? I haven't heard anyone actually use them, does anybody > have any comments on these, positive or negative? > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Comobu@aol.com Subject: (dr350) o-rings Date: 21 Dec 1999 12:56:29 EST Good tips/opinions from all.. I think I'll go with Bryans technique.. Clean with a brush with kerosene, wipe down, lube sparingly..do it the night before riding. One more question in the mix... what about using diesel fuel as the cleaning agent?? (cheaper than WD if I can't find kerosene) Guy Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Sims" Subject: Re: (dr350) o-rings Date: 21 Dec 1999 13:08:26 -0500 I get my kerosene from ACE hardware store (you know, "ACE is the place with the helpful hardware man", or something like that). If you have ACE in your area, try them. You take them a 1 gallon can and they fill it cheap. Mark Comobu@aol.com wrote: > > Good tips/opinions from all.. I think I'll go with Bryans technique.. Clean > with a brush with kerosene, wipe down, lube sparingly..do it the night before > riding. > > One more question in the mix... what about using diesel fuel as the > cleaning agent?? (cheaper than WD if I can't find kerosene) > > Guy > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JCHol@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Kouba Links? Date: 21 Dec 1999 17:32:13 EST I used them to lower the rear of my 1999 DR350 SE bike about 1 1/4 inches. The ride was improved also. I had to increase the spring reload to get the desired sag. I recommend them. John Holliman over the hill guy Lafayette, LA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne Marsula' Subject: Re: (dr350) Kouba Links? Date: 22 Dec 1999 08:22:34 -0800 Michael Reina wrote: > > Whats the story with the "Kouba Links" that are on Ludwigs list and on > Kevins' DR page? I haven't heard anyone actually use them, does anybody > have any comments on these, positive or negative? Hi all, I put on the links and an 8 kg spring, and with my 250 pounds it rides like my BMW, and I can now flat foot the bike. With my bad legs, I couldn't ride the bike without them. Wayne Marsula' Escondido, CA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wez" Subject: (dr350) leaving list Date: 23 Dec 1999 22:18:38 -0000 Usubscribe I am sorry i am leaving the list, as my DR350SP 96, has been writen-off. After a lady pulled out into the side of me. The bike took it well and I still could ride it after the crash, but it had twisted the frame and the insurance company wrote it off. But I do hope to repair it at a later date (when I get some spare cash). Wez Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Hess Subject: (dr350) Holiday Wishes Date: 24 Dec 1999 14:36:49 -0700 I would like to take this opportunity to wish you all the Happiest of Holidays from the Suzuki Owners Club of the USA. May your Christmas be merry, and your rides be happy through out the new year. We lost someone to breast cancer this past week, and I'd like to offer our sincerest thanks for the time that we had with Mari. The coming months will see us do whatever we can to remember Mari and to aid research to prevent more folks from the same pain and suffering. May God bless us, everyone! -- ********************************************** Eric Hess Lakewood, Colorado SOC-USA National Dir/Rally/Safety Coord 1979 GS750E 1997 VS1400GLPV SOC-UK#19744 MIG#821 IBA AMA#580210 http://www.soc-usa.org Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Hess Subject: (dr350) Who was Mari? Date: 24 Dec 1999 17:20:24 -0700 Mari Hall was a member of two Suzuki motorcyclist mailing lists, the and the , who was always able to provide accolades and witty stories of her own. Never once did we hear a whimper out of her, so the news of her passing was quite a shock to us. We have a surrogate family on these lists, and I'm sure that the rest of you have your own. Mari remarked some time back that "We will be a family no matter what!". I think that we can all agree with this, and at times like these the point is proven. Most of us only know each other by our handles, and the things we write over the internet - electronic pen-pals, after a fashion. Does that make the connection between us nonsensical? I don't think so. The idea for the SOC-USA came out of the connections shared in the Suzuki-L list, and it is now much more than an idea. We are a virtual community. Rallies and events provide a place to make the bonds stronger. The two lists mentioned above service the community of Suzuki motorcyclists, and welcome any of you to join us. The SOC-USA is operated under the same auspices, no prejudices are allowed. It doesn't matter what you ride, so long as you DO. Happy holidays, everyone. Time for me to sign off. Mari, look to the second star to port, and steady on 'til morn... -- ********************************************** Eric Hess Lakewood, Colorado SOC-USA National Dir/Rally/Safety Coord 1979 GS750E 1997 VS1400GLPV SOC-UK#19744 MIG#821 IBA AMA#580210 http://www.soc-usa.org Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TrailByker@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) o-ring chains... Date: 25 Dec 1999 12:31:21 EST O-ring chain maintenance mantras are like opinions; everybody's got one (or something like that). The main advantage of an o-ring is the fact that the pins stay "permanently" lubed; permanently, that is, until you do something to violate the seal like take a full-force aim with that fancy-new 9,000psi pressure washer or clean the chain with Gumout. Gentle washing or VERY careful use of a pressure washer is all that's needed to clean the crud off followed by a spray down of WD-40 (Chain Wax would be my second choice). The WD-40 will displace any water, keep the chain from rusting and, as far as I can tell, do no harm to the o-rings (and is MUCH CHEAPER than those high rent chain lubes). The WD-40 will also lube the rollers (the barrel shaped peices that engage the chain). Mike '93 DR350 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: (dr350) Merry Christmas Date: 25 Dec 1999 11:26:16 -0800 I just want to wish all of the DR350 group a Very Merry Christmas and happy and safe trails in the new year to come. I thank those of you that have expressed kind words from my post's and have even purchased some of the Items that I sell my best Regards to you all. Jesse Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Nolastname" Subject: (dr350) Christmas card from Bryan Date: 25 Dec 1999 11:57:35 PST An XXXmas Card for you! Click the link...its quick, no ads, & hilarious. Bryan http://www.num1pirate.com/samples/_JingleBells.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Nolastname" Subject: Re: (dr350) Christmas card from Bryan -woops Date: 25 Dec 1999 15:48:46 PST Sorry guys...didn't mean to send that to the list; hope nobody was offended if they followed the link. It is funny though :) Bryan in Dallas 95 DR350SE >Subject: (dr350) Christmas card from Bryan >Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 11:57:35 PST > >An XXXmas Card for you! Click the link...its quick, no ads, & hilarious. >Bryan > >http://www.num1pirate.com/samples/_JingleBells.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Subject: (dr350) 99 DR350SE questions Date: 26 Dec 1999 18:04:35 -0800 I bought a new 99 DR350SE about two months ago. It has had a problem with missing / sputtering at about 2500 rpm especially when cold. The problem doesn't seem to be as bad now that I've got about 500 miles on the bike although it's still there. I'm getting ready to take it in for the first service and wondered if anyone else has experienced this problem. I'm a 47 year old beginning rider, so far I've been riding fire roads and once to the desert along with some street riding close to home. I would also appreciate any advice on modifications for this bike. Comments on air box, carburetor, and the rear swing arm changes would be appreciated. Thanks, Andy Campbell Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Subject: (dr350) (no subject) Date: 26 Dec 1999 18:08:43 -0800 index dr350 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Myers Subject: Re: (dr350) o-ring chains.. Date: 26 Dec 1999 21:52:16 -0600 TrailByker@aol.com Wrote: O-ring chain maintenance mantras are like opinions; everybody's got one (or something like that). The main advantage of an o-ring is the fact that the pins stay "permanently" lubed; permanently, that is, until you do something to violate the seal like take a full-force aim with that fa Don't forget that your chain's rollers need a good quality lubricant to maintain a slippery surface. WD-40 is not that lubricant. It will work great displacing water from a recent wash and afford a "light" coating of lubricant to avoid rust setting in, but Chain Lube or a Chain Wax, will provide your O-ring chain with a much better level of protection. The rollers that actually touch the sprocket are "not" sealed and need to be lubricated regularly. Eric begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@`$`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`N (```(````,`````P``, ,````+``\.``````(!_P\!````70`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````&1R,S4P+61I9V5S=$!L:7-T6ME``@0`0```&4```!44D%)3$)92T520$%/3$-/35=23U1%.D\M M4DE.1T-(04E.34%)3E1%3D%.0T5-04Y44D%305)%3$E+14]024Y)3TY3.T56 M15)90D]$65-'3U1/3D4H3U)33TU%5$A)3D=,24M%``````(!"1 !````'@,` M`!H#``#2! ``3%I&=> `JZ/_``H!#P(5`J0#Y 7K`H,`4!,#5 (`8V@*P'-E M=.XR!@`&PP*#,@/&!Q,"@T8S`\4"`'!R<1(B?,C4U`H '"H$-L0M@;F5HG!"!G', D@&XC8"C;!;$*A7,#@(U ^$?U$$',TD !P/)$-T 6P/)+B(AM@9VAT+: %H"@PAR(B*;$] MJV%V;VD\D+QR=14P,E$"0"I#;B[@U&)U!4!#(G-,+=$D@,<%P#-02B1787@N MX$)C?QRA,: -L#L$(?LT8S-0;?YU$;!)T$DQ1$$\$"5 `R#_*;$ Subject: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 26 Dec 1999 22:43:53 -0600 Anyone take their camera with them when they go trailing? I'm looking for a good way to transport my camera when I plonk into the woods. I generally carry a backpack loaded up with goodies like bandaids, water, towels, couple of tools, and some other misc stuff for myself and two other riders. I don't think I want to stick the camera in the backpack, though I probably will, hell what's one more thing in there anyway. However, I'd really like something which offers better access to the camera than the backpack method. I'll be packing a Nikon N70 with a 28-105mm and 100-300mm Zoom. I had debated bringing it with last summer, but decided that my hands would be full making sure my wife and kid were riding safely and I wouldn't have time for any meaningful shots. This summer will be a bit different. Thanks Eric Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: njkouba Subject: (dr350) 99 DR350SE questions Date: 26 Dec 1999 22:21:53 -0700 Andy, Assuming you are the first owner and you bought it new from a dealer, I would let the dealer figure out what the problem is. Sounds like it may be too lean, probably because the airbox snorkel has been removed, water in the float bowl, fuel adjusting screw is not adjusted for your altitude, float too low or who knows how long the list could be. If the dealer is not involved for what ever reason, let the list know and I'm sure they can diagnose the problem with a little more info. Jesse Kientz of Kientech Engineering builds airboxs for the DR350 and DR350S model Suzuki's and can answer all of your airbox questions, he has a web page at: http://www.Kientech.com/ and can be E-mailed at Jesse@rvi.net I can help on suspension/swingarm questions. Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299 E-mail: njkouba@ix.netcom.com If your new to the list, welcome, and let us know if we can help get your DR sorted out. Thats our story and were sticking to it. Norm Andrew wrote: > I bought a new 99 DR350SE about two months ago. It has had a problem > with missing / sputtering at about 2500 rpm especially when cold. The > problem doesn't seem to be as bad now that I've got about 500 miles on > the bike although it's still there. I'm getting ready to take it in for > the first service and wondered if anyone else has experienced this > problem. I'm a 47 year old beginning rider, so far I've been riding fire > roads and once to the desert along with some street riding close to > home. I would also appreciate any advice on modifications for this > bike. Comments on air box, carburetor, and the rear swing arm changes > would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Andy Campbell > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). - Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hot101rod@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 27 Dec 1999 00:42:31 EST Eric Tamrac (brand name) has a very nice "chest" case for SLR cameras, that has room for a telephoto lens. Personally I gave up on the SLR for riding (unless I am just using the bike to get to the shoot) for almost every occasion. I started carrying a PENTAX IQzoom105wr point and shoot. I've dropped mine in dust, dirt, mud and water and it still takes great shots. Good Luck Rod Carlile Bend, OR 98 DR350SE 85 XR350 91 XL250 93 KX250 94 KDX200 85 V65Sabre 69 Z50 Honda Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Bosseloo Subject: (dr350) Cilindercap Date: 27 Dec 1999 12:36:32 +0100 Hello, I'm a DR350 '92 rider, and I only bought the bike 2000 kms ago. I had it checked at that time ( it had 18,000 kms then ) and had the oil changed. Last week, it begun to make strange noises, and it didn't start that good anymore for more then two weeks. I thought that was normal, since it begun to get colder. Anyway, we removed the cylinder cap ( I'm not sure you call it that way in English ) and we saw that the little axe that drives the valves ( we call it "nokkenas" in Belgium ) and the cylindercap are worn out due to insuficient lubrification. It seems the problem already existed before I bought the bike. Does anybody know a way to fix this, or if there are any non-original spare parts, because these things cost as much new as I paid for the whole bike ... :( Tim - Belgium - Europe "Don't call them French Fries, call 'em Belgian Fries !" Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne Marsula' Subject: Re: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 27 Dec 1999 06:37:45 -0800 Eric Myers wrote: > > Anyone take their camera with them when they go trailing? > > I'm looking for a good way to transport my camera when I plonk into the > woods. I generally carry a backpack loaded up with goodies like bandaids, > water, towels, couple of tools, and some other misc stuff for myself and > two other riders. > > I don't think I want to stick the camera in the backpack, though I probably > will, hell what's one more thing in there anyway. However, I'd really like > something which offers better access to the camera than the backpack > method. > > I'll be packing a Nikon N70 with a 28-105mm and 100-300mm Zoom. I had > debated bringing it with last summer, but decided that my hands would be > full making sure my wife and kid were riding safely and I wouldn't have > time for any meaningful shots. > > This summer will be a bit different. > > Thanks > Eric Eric, That is a poor choice for a camera to carry this way, however it is a very good choice for taking pictures of the wife and kids. You would be risking damage to an expensive item to repair. Get yourself a "point and shoot" camera. Many are available now at very reasonable prices, even with zoom lenses. My favorite trail camera is an older Nikon Action Touch, which is waterproof, therefore dust proof also. I carry it on a strap around my neck, take many pictures "on the fly". Many of my best pictures were taken this way. The Action Touch does not even have a zoom, but is a 28mm wide angle, which allows me to just hold it up and not even look through the view finder, and still get a decent picture. Having very good equipment such as yours may make you not think of some other alternatives. I have used the "throw away" cameras with great success. I've even sold some of the pictures from them, back when I was taking magazine and commercial brochure pictures. One of my best shots came from a panorama camera, and was the only "good shot out of the camera, but at the price of the camera it was worth it. My preference these days is a digital camera. I use a Sony Mavica as it uses a floppy disk for storage media. Getting between 20 and 40 pictures on each disk, means a small pocket full of disks will last for a long trip into Baja. A lot more risk of damage, of course. I tend to take a different camera depending on how much risk exposure I expect. But I would only take my "good" SLR on a touring trip in an enclosed case on the bike. I know that everyone can't afford several cameras, but can you afford repairs to your only camera? Better to use what you can afford to repair, even if it's a throwaway that wouldn't need repair. You'll be surprised at the pictures you get. After all, it's the content, not the quality, that makes it a "keeper" picture. Wayne Marsula' Escondido, CA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) Cilindercap Date: 27 Dec 1999 08:19:08 -0800 Hi Tim(Belgium fries)Bossoloo,Just a little American Humer there It sounds like you need some. First you have the camshaft then the rocker arms that pivot between the camshaft and the valves. As the camshaft turns the lobes on it raise and lower these rocker arms which in turn open and close the valves. The areas that are subject to damage with the lack of lubrication are first the journals or bearing surfaces where the camshaft rides in the cylinder head, then the camshaft lobes and the wide section of the rocker arms that make contact as the camshaft turns. The camshaft can be replaced with minimal cost and the rockerarms can be refaced also with minimal cost. However the cylinder head is another matter they must be replaced as a matched pair due to the way that they are machined when being manufactured. I will do some research on this for you since some aftermarket camshaft companies make needle bearing cams and the head is resized in the bearing journal area to receive these oversize bearings which would maybe solve your problem in this area. It would be wise to explore further though to find out why the lubrication problem occurred in the first place. The oil pump gear on the clutch side would be the first place to look check and see if it has any teeth missing. If it does then the engine will need to be completely disassembled to clean out the teeth that will destroy the rest of the engine internals. The oil pump should be also checked for wear or damage. Keep me posted and if my decription needs more clarification you can contact me I will try to make it more clear. Regards Jesse -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tim Bosseloo Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 3:37 AM Hello, I'm a DR350 '92 rider, and I only bought the bike 2000 kms ago. I had it checked at that time ( it had 18,000 kms then ) and had the oil changed. Last week, it begun to make strange noises, and it didn't start that good anymore for more then two weeks. I thought that was normal, since it begun to get colder. Anyway, we removed the cylinder cap ( I'm not sure you call it that way in English ) and we saw that the little axe that drives the valves ( we call it "nokkenas" in Belgium ) and the cylindercap are worn out due to insuficient lubrification. It seems the problem already existed before I bought the bike. Does anybody know a way to fix this, or if there are any non-original spare parts, because these things cost as much new as I paid for the whole bike ... :( Tim - Belgium - Europe "Don't call them French Fries, call 'em Belgian Fries !" Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 27 Dec 1999 09:47:39 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: 'dr350' Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 7:37 AM > Eric Myers wrote: > > > > Anyone take their camera with them when they go trailing? I just recently purchased an Olympus D340R digital camera. This is a great point and shoot camera that fits in your pocket. I have also a padded case that is form fitting and some NiMH batteries. This camera will hold 122 images till it needs to be downloaded to your 'puter. Digital is the way to go if you want to email or put up on a web page your photos. The trick to taking good pictures on the trail is having your camera easily available. If you have to set up your camera for each photo then "the good ones" will get away. The D340R is a very easy camera to use and can be found on the internet for about $250. I highly recommend one. Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com 435-259-7356 Fax 419-818-3173 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CGUBERA@aol.com Subject: Re: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 27 Dec 1999 12:59:56 EST There is a company called Sun Dog--www.sundogusa.com--in Seattle that makes a chest harness--called Action Harness-- for 35mm cameras that is used for quick access. The camera sits on your sternum and is strapped down really well. I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for or not but it sure is quick access for a SLR. Thes sell both waterproof and water-resistant versions. Good luck...Chris In a message dated 12/26/99 9:49:34 PM, emyers@mc.net writes: << Anyone take their camera with them when they go trailing? I'm looking for a good way to transport my camera when I plonk into the woods. I generally carry a backpack loaded up with goodies like bandaids, water, towels, couple of tools, and some other misc stuff for myself and two other riders. I don't think I want to stick the camera in the backpack, though I probably will, hell what's one more thing in there anyway. However, I'd really like something which offers better access to the camera than the backpack method. I'll be packing a Nikon N70 with a 28-105mm and 100-300mm Zoom. I had debated bringing it with last summer, but decided that my hands would be full making sure my wife and kid were riding safely and I wouldn't have time for any meaningful shots. This summer will be a bit different. Thanks Eric >> Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jesse Wardlow Subject: (dr350) WEbsights Date: 27 Dec 1999 10:50:08 -0800 Just wondering if anybody new of any good DR sights on the web. I have a 1993 DR 350 that I have had since it was new and it now is need of some major upgrades, but am having trouble finding places to shop on the web. My home town shop is okay, but they seem to add about 100% to the real cost. Thanks. __________________________ "Be Just and Fear Not" Jesse Wardlow Computer Maint. Tech. Rainier School District #13 Phone: 503.556.3777 Cell: 503.969.7972 (work) Cell: 503.969.8028 (personal) Fax: 503.336.3778 jesse_wardlow@rsd.k12.or.us (work) wardlow@teleport.com (home) Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Myers Subject: RE: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 27 Dec 1999 12:32:23 -0600 ---------- There is a company called Sun Dog--www.sundogusa.com--in Seattle that makes a Chris, I went to the site http://www.sundogusa.com and they appear to be either down or completely out of internet operation. As long as the harness wasn't to capable (would carry more than I have) it would probably do the trick. Thanks, Eric Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CGUBERA@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 27 Dec 1999 13:59:55 EST Here is their physical info (from their Spring 1999 catalog). Good luck: SunDog, Inc. 5305 Shilshole Avenue NW Seattle, WA 98107 206-782-5404 800-450-7220 206-782-5903 Fax email: sundog6700@aol.com Chris in Nor Cal In a message dated 12/27/99 11:51:55 AM, emyers@mc.net writes: << ---------- There is a company called Sun Dog--www.sundogusa.com--in Seattle that makes a Chris, I went to the site http://www.sundogusa.com and they appear to be either down or completely out of internet operation. As long as the harness wasn't to capable (would carry more than I have) it would probably do the trick. Thanks, Eric ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:51:55 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.net (mail.mc.net [209.172.128.4]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:51:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 5981 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 18:58:05 -0000 Received: from chi-ras-1-209-112-91-54.mc.net (209.112.91.54) by mail.mc.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 18:58:05 -0000 Received: by chi-ras-1-209-112-91-54.mc.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BF5068.91A08420@chi-ras-1-209-112-91-54.mc.net>; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:47:43 -0600 Message-ID: <01BF5068.91A08420@chi-ras-1-209-112-91-54.mc.net> "'CGUBERA@aol.com'" Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Spam-Rating: mail.mc.net 1.6.1 0/1000/N >> Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Myers Subject: RE: RE: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 27 Dec 1999 13:06:05 -0600 Thanks Chris, I'll give them a holler. Eric ---------- Here is their physical info (from their Spring 1999 catalog). Good luck: SunDog, Inc. 5305 Shilshole Avenue NW Seattle, WA 98107 206-782-5404 800-450-7220 206-782-5903 Fax email: sundog6700@aol.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (dr350) Carb Q Date: 27 Dec 1999 11:19:35 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 10:53 AM > Why whatever gave you that idea! Hey I need a favor. Elden Carl is > building a DR350 up. I think it is a 97 or 98 SE. He wants to know if the > Canadian version has a vented float bowl top on the carb and if so is it > possible to obtain one > Morgan If anyone can answer this, you can reply to me directly or on the list. Thanks. Cheers, Arne KLR650 Listmeister Eh 13 www.mac-d.com MAC-D Homepage Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) Carb Q Date: 27 Dec 1999 12:30:32 -0800 Hi Arne, I believe these carbs are all vented the two ports with hoses just above the bowl about an inch or so are the vents you can confirm this by removing the carb then remove the bowl and look up inside and you can see where these ports exit the upper area of the float bowl. I have just stocked an order of DR350 pumper carbs (Dirt model) if your friend would like to get serious about upgrading let me know and I will get some prices for him. Regards.....Jesse -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Arne Larsen Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 11:20 AM ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 10:53 AM > Why whatever gave you that idea! Hey I need a favor. Elden Carl is > building a DR350 up. I think it is a 97 or 98 SE. He wants to know if the > Canadian version has a vented float bowl top on the carb and if so is it > possible to obtain one > Morgan If anyone can answer this, you can reply to me directly or on the list. Thanks. Cheers, Arne KLR650 Listmeister Eh 13 www.mac-d.com MAC-D Homepage Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Grosjean" Subject: (dr350) Keeping soft bags off the muffler Date: 27 Dec 1999 18:52:57 -0500 List, What do people do when using soft bags over the quasi-number plates? On my DR-350, I just had my Eclipse saddlebags push my RH number plate into the muffler and melt some things. Though nothing serious, I wouldn't want to take a trip like that. The LH side doesn't matter, nothing there to be damaged. Any suggestions? Doug Grosjean Gr.8 Designs Pemberville, Ohio http://www.gr8designs.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: njkouba Subject: Re: (dr350) Keeping soft bags off the muffler Date: 27 Dec 1999 22:05:24 -0700 Doug, Check out:< http:// www.happy-trail.com> They have side racks for most everything including DR's, your number plates will like it. I used them on a borrowed DR350S in Baja last year and did not have to purchase new side number plates to return the bike. Norm Suzuki DR Suspensions http:/www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299 Doug Grosjean wrote: > List, > > What do people do when using soft bags over the quasi-number plates? On my > DR-350, I just had my Eclipse saddlebags push my RH number plate into the > muffler and melt some things. Though nothing serious, I wouldn't want to > take a trip like that. > > The LH side doesn't matter, nothing there to be damaged. > > Any suggestions? > > Doug Grosjean > Gr.8 Designs > Pemberville, Ohio > http://www.gr8designs.com > - Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: njkouba Subject: [Fwd: (dr350) Keeping soft bags off the muffler] Date: 27 Dec 1999 22:09:47 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5B6C205EC74C5F0FE4576AF9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------5B6C205EC74C5F0FE4576AF9 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by mail00.dfw.mindspring.net (Mindspring/Netcom Mail Service) with ESMTP id s6ggsh.vbc.33qs884 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ix.netcom.com (boi-id2-03.ix.netcom.com [204.32.193.67]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09080 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:58:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38684585.DE04B89B@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <006e01bf50c5$890a5b80$22ac85cd@dgrosjea> <38684513.C863E99A@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 njkouba wrote: > Doug, > > Check out:< http://www.happy-trail.com> They have side racks for most everything including > DR's, your number plates will like it. I used them on a borrowed DR350S in Baja last year and > did not have to purchase new side number plates to return the bike. Norm > > Suzuki DR Suspensions > http:/www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299 > > Doug Grosjean wrote: > > > List, > > > > What do people do when using soft bags over the quasi-number plates? On my > > DR-350, I just had my Eclipse saddlebags push my RH number plate into the > > muffler and melt some things. Though nothing serious, I wouldn't want to > > take a trip like that. > > > > The LH side doesn't matter, nothing there to be damaged. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Doug Grosjean > > Gr.8 Designs > > Pemberville, Ohio > > http://www.gr8designs.com > > > > - -- HyperTerminal 1.0 -- HyperTerminal data file Please do not attempt to modify this file directly.  --------------5B6C205EC74C5F0FE4576AF9-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Tobey Subject: (dr350) 99' main jet size? Date: 28 Dec 1999 08:50:22 -0600 Hi all, can anyone tell me what the main jet on the 99' dr350x with the pumper carb? My local dealer have told me it has a 135 and the one across town told me it had a 130. I cut the top out of my airbox and I'm trying to figure out what jet I need to order. I thought about a 140. Any input will be appreciated. Thanks Chris, Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) 99' main jet size? Date: 28 Dec 1999 07:07:15 -0800 Hi Chris, A 140 is a good place to start,if you have a freer flowing exhaust it may be a little lean. You may have to drop the clip on the needle one notch to the fourth groove. If its too rich it will blubber with open throttle. The needle controls the mid throttle position so if its flat in that area this indicates that it needs to be richer. The clip adjustment will take care of this. The pilot is ok you may have to open the fuel screw a little like 1/4 to 1/2 turn, Hope this helps. Happy and safe trails in the year to come.....Jesse -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chris Tobey Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 6:50 AM Hi all, can anyone tell me what the main jet on the 99' dr350x with the pumper carb? My local dealer have told me it has a 135 and the one across town told me it had a 130. I cut the top out of my airbox and I'm trying to figure out what jet I need to order. I thought about a 140. Any input will be appreciated. Thanks Chris, Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jesse Wardlow Subject: (dr350) jet size Date: 28 Dec 1999 08:05:51 -0800 I have a 93 DR 350 with no real mods to it. I have put a couple holes in the airbox for better flow and at one time had the Megaloy muffler on it. Actualy had two, broke both of them in nasty spills. So now I am back to the stock pipe and was wondering what is the best setting for the carb and jet sizes? __________________________ "Be Just and Fear Not" Jesse Wardlow Computer Maint. Tech. Rainier School District #13 Phone: 503.556.3777 Cell: 503.969.7972 (work) Cell: 503.969.8028 (personal) Fax: 503.336.3778 jesse_wardlow@rsd.k12.or.us (work) wardlow@teleport.com (home) Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAMMY28@aol.com Subject: (dr350) Need Help With DR350S 98' Fuel Problem Date: 28 Dec 1999 18:04:03 EST My 98 DR350S has under 1000 Miles on it and it just started running like shit. I haven't done any modifications to the engine and these are the symptoms: Bike runs but won't maintain Idle even when Idle screw is adjusted and bike is warm. Spark plug is very carbonized indicating mixture too rich and oil smells of gas. The bike is basically fouling out. to get it to start again I have to Open the throttle all the way. I checked carb and cleaned and made no difference. I cleaned Air cleaner and spark plug and no difference. I did ride the bike hard the last time I rode in fact it was the first all day ride in it's life. My next guess is maybe something happened with the valve adjustment but I don't know? Maybe someone has had the same problem. Please let me know if you have the answer or guess? Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) Need Help With DR350S 98' Fuel Problem Date: 28 Dec 1999 15:30:15 -0800 Hi Hammy, I had a similar call a short while back with the same symptoms. Your float valve in the carb is probably bypassing. to check this you remove the carb, remove the bowl,gently remove the float assembly. Now take the needle valve seat out of the carb body and inspect the o'ring on it, check it for a cut or a notch cut out of it. this would allow fuel to bypass around the needle valve and overfeed the engine with gas. Also check inside the seat for a piece of rubber o'ring or any debris,blow this area out with air as well as the carb body where the seat fits into. You can get a new o'ring from your local bike shop or a bearing supply house. If you find that it is damaged. To check it you can reassemble the carb making sure that the needle is properly seated into the seat and moves freely with the float. Now just hold the carb level and hook up the hose from the fuel petcock to the carb and move the selector to prime. You should not have any fuel come out of the carb overflow drain hose. this will save you from assembling the carb back on the bike and then taking it back off again if it still leaks. Good luck and get back to me if you have more questions. Regards ....Jesse -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of HAMMY28@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 3:04 PM My 98 DR350S has under 1000 Miles on it and it just started running like shit. I haven't done any modifications to the engine and these are the symptoms: Bike runs but won't maintain Idle even when Idle screw is adjusted and bike is warm. Spark plug is very carbonized indicating mixture too rich and oil smells of gas. The bike is basically fouling out. to get it to start again I have to Open the throttle all the way. I checked carb and cleaned and made no difference. I cleaned Air cleaner and spark plug and no difference. I did ride the bike hard the last time I rode in fact it was the first all day ride in it's life. My next guess is maybe something happened with the valve adjustment but I don't know? Maybe someone has had the same problem. Please let me know if you have the answer or guess? Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (dr350) Y2K info Date: 29 Dec 1999 12:14:25 -0800 Bill Haycock, webmaster for the KLR650 list web site passes this on. Click on "START". > > > > > > Click on "SETTINGS". > > > > > > Double click on "Control Panel". > > > > > > Double click on "Regional Settings" icon (look for > > > the little world globe), not the date and time icon. > > > > > > Click on the "Date" tab at the top of the page. > > > (last tab on the top right). > > > > > > Where it says, "Short Date Sample", look and see > > > if it shows a "two digit" year format ("YY"). > > > Unless you've previously changed it (and you > > > probably haven't) -- it will be set incorrectly > > > with just the two Y's. It needs to be four! > > > > > > That's because Microsoft made the 2 digits setting > > > the default setting for Windows 95, Windows 98 and > > > NT. This date format selected is the date that > > > Windows feeds *ALL* application software and will > > > not rollover into the year 2000. It will roll over > > > to the year 00. > > > > > > Click on the button across from "Short Date Style" > > > and select the option that shows, "mm/dd/yyyy" or > > > "m/d/yyyy". (Be sure your selection has four y's > > > showing, not just "mm/dd/yy). > > > > > > Then click on "Apply". > > > > > > Then click on "OK" at the button. > > > > > > Easy enough to fix. However, every "as > > > distributed" installation of Windows worldwide is > > > defaulted to fail Y2K rollover. Pass this along > > > to your PC buddies no matter how much of a guru > > > they think they are, this might be a welcome bit > > > of information! Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rich Anderson" Subject: (dr350) removing a chain Date: 29 Dec 1999 13:31:10 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BF5200.F7E94200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have noticed on my 1998 DR350 that there is no master link on the = chain. How is one to remove the chain without damaging the links? Thanks, Rich ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BF5200.F7E94200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have noticed on my 1998 DR350 that = there is no=20 master link on the chain.  How is one to remove the chain without = damaging=20 the links?
 
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Rich
------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BF5200.F7E94200-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jnugent" <2jnugent@prodigy.net> Subject: (dr350) Removing your chain Date: 29 Dec 1999 18:52:35 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF522D.DEAABA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What you need to do is get a chain breaker. It's a small tool made for = pressing out the pins. Motion Pro makes a nice one for about $25 it works very well. Then you = have to buy a master. The other alternative is to grind off the pin and hammer it out with a = punch. Believe me the tool is worth the money. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF522D.DEAABA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What you need to do is get a chain = breaker. It's a=20 small tool made for pressing out the pins.
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------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF522D.DEAABA80-- Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) Need Help With DR350S 98' Fuel Problem Date: 29 Dec 1999 16:48:22 -0800 Hi John, Happy new year to you. Yes this sounds like the same problem. I was just thinking about you I just stocked a bunch of new DR350 dirt carbs and am putting together a complete kit that includes every thing needed to make the switch. a spacer to clear the starter and provide a vacuum port for the petcock hose. a dirt carb manifold. the carb. two longer socket head capscrews. and a new single cable throttle assembly and cable. the price is $330.00 . These carbs go for almost $300.00 alone. Just thought I would let you know I will have the kit on the website soon....be careful new years eve. Regards ..Jesse -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 1:57 PM --- "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" wrote: > Hi Hammy, I had a similar call a short while back > with the same symptoms. > Your float valve in the carb is probably bypassing. > to check this you remove > the carb, remove the bowl,gently remove the float > assembly. Now take the > needle valve seat out of the carb body and inspect > the o'ring on it, check > it for a cut or a notch cut out of it. this would > allow fuel to bypass > around the needle valve and overfeed the engine with > gas. Also check inside > the seat for a piece of rubber o'ring or any > debris,blow this area out with > air as well as the carb body where the seat fits > into. You can get a new > o'ring from your local bike shop or a bearing supply > house. If you find that > it is damaged. To check it you can reassemble the > carb making sure that the > needle is properly seated into the seat and moves > freely with the float. > Now just hold the carb level and hook up the hose > from the fuel petcock to > the carb and move the selector to prime. You should > not have any fuel come > out of the carb overflow drain hose. this will save > you from assembling the > carb back on the bike and then taking it back off > again if it still leaks. > Good luck and get back to me if you have more > questions. > > Regards ....Jesse > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > HAMMY28@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 3:04 PM > To: dr350@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (dr350) Need Help With DR350S 98' Fuel > Problem > > > My 98 DR350S has under 1000 Miles on it and it just > started running like > shit. I haven't done any modifications to the engine > and these are the > symptoms: Bike runs but won't maintain Idle even > when Idle screw is adjusted > and bike is warm. Spark plug is very carbonized > indicating mixture too rich > and oil smells of gas. The bike is basically fouling > out. to get it to start > again I have to Open the throttle all the way. > > I checked carb and cleaned and made no difference. > I cleaned Air cleaner > and > spark plug and no difference. I did ride the bike > hard the last time I rode > in fact it was the first all day ride in it's life. > My next guess is maybe > something happened with the valve adjustment but I > don't know? Maybe someone > has had the same problem. Please let me know if you > have the answer or > guess? > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to > majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 > (or dr350-digest). > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to > majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 > (or dr350-digest). > Gee Jesse this guys problem sounded real familiar happy new year to you and your family __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Bosseloo Subject: (dr350) 350 to 350E ? Date: 30 Dec 1999 12:16:47 +0100 Hello, Has anybody got any information on the topic whether it is possible to put an electric starter on a normal kickstart DR350 ? Anybody tried it before ? Are there kits available for that ? I'm just tired of becoming all sweaty in my goretex suit before I have driven an inch ... :) Tim from Belgium Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" Subject: RE: (dr350) 350 to 350E ? Date: 30 Dec 1999 10:37:39 -0800 Hi Tim, It would prohibitively expensive due to the fact that the cases are different. The starter is mounted on the left side of the bike and drives off of the magneto flywheel you just need to get it jetted right and get the valve and head issue figured out then it will start easy. Megacycle cams have been closed for the holidays I will be able to check on your cam issue next week. hope you have a happy new year.......Jesse -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-dr350@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tim Bosseloo Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 3:17 AM Hello, Has anybody got any information on the topic whether it is possible to put an electric starter on a normal kickstart DR350 ? Anybody tried it before ? Are there kits available for that ? I'm just tired of becoming all sweaty in my goretex suit before I have driven an inch ... :) Tim from Belgium Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ScottoBme@aol.com Subject: (dr350) National Cycle Date: 31 Dec 1999 01:55:44 EST Does anyone have the phone number or website information on National Cycle. I am looking for information on the Street Shield. Thanks for your help. Scott Bower Redondo Beach, CA 98 DR 650 Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Myers Subject: (dr350) RE: Removing your chain Date: 31 Dec 1999 08:26:49 -0600 Then you have to buy a master. __________________________________ Can't you just press a fresh pin back into the chain, or buy a new non-masterlink for it? How did it get put together in the first place? I'm just asking, it was my impression that a masterlink in a chain of this sort (are they even available?) would be a compromise in its integrity. Am I wrong? 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Doug Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug B Subject: (dr350) item for sale Date: 31 Dec 1999 09:01:46 -0800 I am selling my Dual Star Navigator Map holder for $35.00 plus shipping. It can be seen at: http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/myride.html I Use it to carry items that I need quick access to while riding: Camera Tire gauge Compact binoculars Maps Pen and paper Extra film tapes for the helmet cam. Doug Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug B Subject: RE: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 31 Dec 1999 09:10:06 -0800 I used to carry my expensive 35mm SLR while riding, in a backpack. I got so annoyed with the routine required to take a photo with it that involved taking the back pack off, digging out the camera, and putting it back that I finally bought a decent point and shoot camera. It's a Pentax IQZoom 928. Takes really good pictures. I carry it in my Dual Star navigator map pack - seen at http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/myride.html All of the pictures on my website http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/dualsport.html taken since 1997 were shot with the above camera. The point and shoot camera allows me to get off a shot fairly quick and be on my way riding again. This is the best way to go, in my opinion. Doug -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 8:44 PM Anyone take their camera with them when they go trailing? I'm looking for a good way to transport my camera when I plonk into the woods. I generally carry a backpack loaded up with goodies like bandaids, water, towels, couple of tools, and some other misc stuff for myself and two other riders. I don't think I want to stick the camera in the backpack, though I probably will, hell what's one more thing in there anyway. However, I'd really like something which offers better access to the camera than the backpack method. I'll be packing a Nikon N70 with a 28-105mm and 100-300mm Zoom. I had debated bringing it with last summer, but decided that my hands would be full making sure my wife and kid were riding safely and I wouldn't have time for any meaningful shots. This summer will be a bit different. Thanks Eric Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirt rider" Subject: Re: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 31 Dec 1999 13:27:22 -0500 I have to agree with doug, I carried a point and shoot 35 mm. Fuji 1000 zoom camera inside the same pack on the front number plate. I carried it there for 6 days with riding the Michigan Trail Safari and the camera held up fine in the bag through 5 days of sand and whoops. I've since purchase a new front number plate bag from cycoactive. It's called the glove box. It's a bit smaller, but I think it holds the things in the pack better and tighter to the number plate. Cycoactive has a webpage www.cycoactive.com when I go riding now, I carry the cellphone in the glovebox and have never had a problem. Nick ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:10 PM > I used to carry my expensive 35mm SLR while riding, in a backpack. I got > so annoyed with the routine required to take a photo with it that involved > taking the back pack off, digging out the camera, and putting it back that > I finally bought a decent point and shoot camera. It's a Pentax IQZoom > 928. Takes really good pictures. I carry it in my Dual Star navigator map > pack - seen at http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/myride.html > > All of the pictures on my website > http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/dualsport.html taken since > 1997 were shot with the above camera. > > The point and shoot camera allows me to get off a shot fairly quick and be > on my way riding again. > This is the best way to go, in my opinion. > > Doug > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Myers [SMTP:emyers@mc.net] > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 8:44 PM > To: 'dr350' > Subject: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera > > Anyone take their camera with them when they go trailing? > > I'm looking for a good way to transport my camera when I plonk into the > woods. I generally carry a backpack loaded up with goodies like bandaids, > water, towels, couple of tools, and some other misc stuff for myself and > two other riders. > > I don't think I want to stick the camera in the backpack, though I probably > will, hell what's one more thing in there anyway. However, I'd really like > something which offers better access to the camera than the backpack > method. > > I'll be packing a Nikon N70 with a 28-105mm and 100-300mm Zoom. I had > debated bringing it with last summer, but decided that my hands would be > full making sure my wife and kid were riding safely and I wouldn't have > time for any meaningful shots. > > This summer will be a bit different. > > Thanks > Eric > > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera Date: 31 Dec 1999 13:20:37 -0800 Hey Doug! Happy New Year! Why you sellin' stuff... New DR400 in the works? =^) Check out our ride photos (Moab) on my Candid Camera page. Cheers, Arne KLR650 Listmeister Eh 13 www.mac-d.com MAC-D Homepage http://members.dencity.com/candidcamera My Motorcycle Rides Page ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 9:10 AM > I used to carry my expensive 35mm SLR while riding, in a backpack. I got > so annoyed with the routine required to take a photo with it that involved > taking the back pack off, digging out the camera, and putting it back that > I finally bought a decent point and shoot camera. It's a Pentax IQZoom > 928. Takes really good pictures. I carry it in my Dual Star navigator map > pack - seen at http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/myride.html > > All of the pictures on my website > http://members.tripod.com/dougb1969/dualsport/dualsport.html taken since > 1997 were shot with the above camera. > > The point and shoot camera allows me to get off a shot fairly quick and be > on my way riding again. > This is the best way to go, in my opinion. > > Doug > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Myers [SMTP:emyers@mc.net] > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 8:44 PM > To: 'dr350' > Subject: (dr350) Bringing along a Camera > > Anyone take their camera with them when they go trailing? > > I'm looking for a good way to transport my camera when I plonk into the > woods. I generally carry a backpack loaded up with goodies like bandaids, > water, towels, couple of tools, and some other misc stuff for myself and > two other riders. > > I don't think I want to stick the camera in the backpack, though I probably > will, hell what's one more thing in there anyway. However, I'd really like > something which offers better access to the camera than the backpack > method. > > I'll be packing a Nikon N70 with a 28-105mm and 100-300mm Zoom. I had > debated bringing it with last summer, but decided that my hands would be > full making sure my wife and kid were riding safely and I wouldn't have > time for any meaningful shots. > > This summer will be a bit different. > > Thanks > Eric > > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > > > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html > Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 > Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com > Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). > Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Bucknam Subject: (dr350) 92 S model electric capacity Date: 31 Dec 1999 15:15:26 -0800 I noticed that Doug B's bike had electric grip heaters. I got a Gerbing's electric jacket liner a few weeks ago and have been using it on my TDM in near-freezing temps -- if you've ever considered getting one of these, just go spend the money and get one! :-) Anyway, a quick check of my Clymer manual suggests that my 92 DR350S might be generating 65 watts total output. That seems kind low, given that the headlight uses about 50 of those. Can anyone tell me, was I reading it wrong, or do the old DR's just have no juice to spare? Thanks, Brian - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brian Bucknam squid@theracetrack.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Grosjean" Subject: Re: (dr350) 92 S model electric capacity Date: 31 Dec 1999 18:50:54 -0500 Ah, one I can answer......! Brian Buckman asked: << Anyway, a quick check of my Clymer manual suggests that my 92 DR350S might be generating 65 watts total output. That seems kind low, given that the headlight uses about 50 of those. Can anyone tell me, was I reading it wrong, or do the old DR's just have no juice to spare? >> Brian, I ran into the exact same questions recently when my 1994 BMW R1100RS met it's demise from a blind van driver, and my DR-350 was pressed into service as a commuter and test vehicle for Gr.8 Designs. I hated to lose the RS, as it had a large alternator and was the perfect test mule for development work for my carbon-fibre electric vest.... Long story, and not why I subbed or posted, but because of that project I've got quite a bit of data on the charging system of my 1993 model DR-350. So I did some checking on the electrical system of my 1993 DR-350. 1993 was still kick-start only, BTW. The total wattage isn't given in the official Suzuki service manual, that was the first place I checked. The factory manual simply says "X" number of AC volts at the alternator. Hmmm. Not much help. So I looked up various web pages, trying to locate reliable data on the actual DC output. Finally, according to the Baja Designs web page, a stock DR-350 puts out 130 watts. Adding the lights together, there's probably about 70 watts of power that are "house loads". So there should be about 60 watts to power whatever else you want. Then I did some measurments of my own. I don't know if the DR's vary from model to model, but system voltage on mine is 14.4 volts when the engine's running. So the 60 watt surplus is just a bit over 4 amps. My vest draws 3.5-4.0 amps, which at 14.4 volts is about 50-58 watts, so I'm cutting it pretty close. The bike has no problems charging the battery and powering my vest - but even if you kill the battery you won't be walking on your 92 model as it's a magneto-CDI ignition with a kickstart. However, I also know that a Gerbings jacket liner draws quite a bit more than 4 amps, I think it's actually closer to about 6 although I'd have to go back through quite a bit of data to locate exact numbers. So you're on your own as far as what will happen. Since I haven't gone beyond what's available with my vest, I haven't found the weak link in the DR's charging system. You might, or you might simply find that the lights get dim. Use caution, as I just don't know... Here's an idea - if you use a Heat-troller to control the jacket liner, you could find out at what point on the Heat-troller the jacket liner maxes out your system, and then don't exceed that point on the dial. Related - Baja Designs also has an alternator rewind service. They claim that the output will go from 130 watts to 230 watts, and I'm thinking about it so that I can have heated grips and / or a jacket liner.... But, looking at the tiny little wires that feed the battery I do have some concerns about what the weak link in the system would be then. I hope that this helps. Best, Doug Grosjean Gr.8 Designs Pemberville, Ohio http://www.gr8designs.com Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne Marsula' Subject: Re: (dr350) 92 S model electric capacity Date: 31 Dec 1999 20:01:27 -0800 Doug Grosjean wrote: > > Ah, one I can answer......! > > Brian Buckman asked: > > << Anyway, a quick check of my Clymer manual suggests that my 92 > DR350S might be generating 65 watts total output. That seems kind > low, given that the headlight uses about 50 of those. Can anyone tell > me, was I reading it wrong, or do the old DR's just have no juice to > spare? >> > > Brian, > > I ran into the exact same questions recently when my 1994 BMW R1100RS > met it's demise from a blind van driver, and my DR-350 was pressed > into service as a commuter and test vehicle for Gr.8 Designs. > > I hated to lose the RS, as it had a large alternator and was the > perfect test mule for development work for my carb Hi all, I had the same problem with my R100GSPD, which is a common problem with the old airhead beemers. I first put a volt meter on to monitor the system, then put a switch on the low beam of the headlight. Now I can cut off the light when I need more juice, and can still use the passing beam switch to warn cagers. Since the BMW has a parking lamp in the housing, it still looks, slightly, like it is on in case a cop sees it. This has been working for me for 8 years now, and I'm sure it has saved my many repairs due to over taxing the electric's. Happy whatever day is coming! Wayne Marsula' Escondido, CA Support Dual Sport News with your subscription http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page2.html Visit the dr350 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=dr350 Unsubscribe by sending a message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com Leave subject blank, message is unsubscribe dr350 (or dr350-digest).