From: "ZuZu" Subject: Re: (exotica) RIAA royalty-rama Date: 01 Dec 2000 10:29:23 -0000 > > Like you didn't see this coming: > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,20422,00.html > > The RIAA plans to be the sole royalty mechanism for online music. With a healthy 50% skim for, uh, being deft monopolists, I suppose. I just got an email about a licensing company. Haven't looked over the information yet, but for those of you who use music for production, it may be an option to avoid dealing with the RIAA, provided these folks grow their lists. Here's the info I got. --- As your contact person at LicenseMusic.com, I'd like to welcome you back to the site! We are here to make your life easier when it comes to music searches and music licensing - to see how, watch our demo at http://www.licensemusic.com/quicktour. 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Supposedly there have never been soundtrack albums for either film. Is it possible that this was made directly from the film? "Days of Being Wild" is mostly Xavier Cugat but I've forgotten about "As Tears Go By." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Max Berlin: Elle et moi Date: 01 Dec 2000 14:33:07 +0100 anyone came across a reissue of this French Gainsbourg sound-alike single: Max Berlin: "Elle et moi"? Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: XMas CDs Date: 01 Dec 2000 15:44:04 +0100 The Blue Hawaiians Christmas On Big Island Booker T. & the MG's In The Christmas Spirit Brave Combo It's Christmas, Man! Walter Brennan Old Rivers/ 't Was The Night Before Christmas Roy Budd Have A Jazzy Christmas Ray Conniff and The Ray Conniff Singers We Wish You A Merry Christmas Duke Ellington Big Band Christmas Esquivel Merry Christmas From The Space-Age Bachelor Pad Luis Frank Tropical Christmas Luis Frank y su tradicional Habana featuring Sandra Granados Tropical Christmas Jackie Gleason Merry Christmas Spike Jones Christmas Record Spike Jones Let's Sing A Song Of Christmas Johnny Largo at the Optigan The Joyous Sounds of Christmas Arthur Lyman With A Christmas Vibe Jimmy McGriff Christmas with McGriff Mitch Miller Christmas Sing-along With Mitch Tony Mottola (unknown, Xmas compilation) Don Reno & Red Smiley The True Meaning Of Christmas The Singers Unlimited Christmas Huey "Piano" Smith and the Clowns 't Was The Night Before Christmas Jimmy Smith Christmas Cookin' Snoopy's Classiks On Toys Christmas Classiks On Toys The Spice Mice Spice Mice Christmas Star Wars Christmas In The Stars Tiny Tim Tiny Tim's Christmas Album The Ventures The Ventures' Christmas Album Various Artists Blame It On Christmas Various Artists A Classic Cartoon Christmas Various Artists The Dark Side Of The Christmas Tree Various Artists Have A Nice Christmas (Holiday Hits Of The 70s) Various Artists Have Yourself A Jazzy Christmas Various Artists Jingle Bells - Swingin' Barnyard Christmas Various Artists Mas! A Caribbean Christmas Party Various Artists Mr. Hankey's Christmas Classics Various Artists Punk Rock Xmas Various Artists A Really Swell Christmas Various Artists Sixties Christmas Various Artists Ultra-Lounge: Christmas Cocktails Various Artists Ultra-Lounge: Christmas Cocktails Part Two Various Artists Wacky Lounge Christmas Various Artists Dr. Seuss' How The Grinch Stole Christmas/ Horton Hears A Who! for label details and comments, jump to the "eXotica Releases Overview": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) days of being wild Date: 01 Dec 2000 13:07:57 -0500 At 01:12 AM 1/1/01 +0800, william wrote: > > hi all, > > a friend of mine just burned me a copy of a soundtrack from a wong kar-wai film. i believe it's "days of being wild" but it might also be "as tears go by". the entire soundtrack is made up of western songs from the 50s and 60s such as we discuss on this list That's a coincidence. I just rented that last week and was thinking of posting about it. Lots of mambo and cha cha. All sounded kinda familiar and yet kinda generic. Probably came from old Tito Puente records but it could have been almost anyone from that period. (Gee I'm helpful aren't I?) Then there's this dream the main character keeps having and that's scored with old Hawaiian music. I actually wouldn't mind knowing who did that. But I didn't care enough to wait and look on the soundtrack. Then again, maybe the credits wouldn't have had subtitles. It's a strange film. (That's helpful too!) I might rent it again. I can't remember how it ends. If I do rent it again, I'll try to read the credits. AZ, always too vague to be helpful # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: XMas CDs Date: 01 Dec 2000 18:55:17 EST It might be a bit too "modern" for this list, but let's not forget El Vez's Merry Mex-mas. You just can't beat "Feliz Navidad" done partially to the tune of PIL's "Public Image".... -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Arling & Cameron - Music For Imaginary Films Date: 02 Dec 2000 16:37:38 +0100 After hearing this CD on Space Bob I bought me a copy and it's absolutely fantastic. The booklet holds an imaginary film poster for each song, done by such capacities as Joost Swaart and others. the music - well... it's not surprising, all within the range of sophisticated lounge pop, but extremely well done. Not many people seem to know A&C, which is hard to believe. Who are they anyway? Dutch, I suppose. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Eden Ahbez - Eden's Island Date: 02 Dec 2000 16:41:43 +0100 Anybody familiar with this Exotica album of 1960? I've seen the cover every once in a while, I think it's also in one of the Incredible Strange Music books. Now, this album is reissued on vinyl and on CD, apparently for 5 years now, but I got my copy just today. It's an absolutely fantastic amazing Exotica highlight! It's Top Ten Exotica, if you ask me. I heard there's a story going along with this guy, but I can't remember having read it anywhere. On the cover he looks like Jesus. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Nuggets 4 CD box Date: 02 Dec 2000 16:45:50 +0100 Got my copy of it today, for amazing (urgh!) 174.- DM, which is about 70 $$$, hope it's worth it! The line-up looks fab, and the booklet too. Big thing, don't know where to store it. I need a special closet for special editions. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: (exotica) re: Arling & Cameron - music for imaginary films Date: 02 Dec 2000 17:55:24 +0100 Moritz wrote: > Not many people seem to know A&C, > which is hard to believe. Who are they anyway? Dutch, I suppose. Yep, they're Dutch. Marco Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek weirdomusic@wxs.nl +--------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com +--------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Nuggets 4 CD box Date: 02 Dec 2000 12:14:24 EST In a message dated 12/2/0 10:46:26 AM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >Got my copy of it today, for amazing (urgh!) 174.- DM, which is about 70 >$$$, hope it's worth it! The line-up looks fab, and the booklet too. Big >thing, don't know where to store it. I need a special closet for special >editions. Its worth it for a definitive look at the US Garage Rock scene of the mid 60's which was its heydey. Some say that it all is merely regurgitated British Invasion, primarily of the Rolling Stones variety with the newest Sears gadgetry thrown in..Perhaps it was, but it was really the beginning of the DIY movement. As for storage, my policy on boxed sets of CD's is basically "fuck the packaging", its CD's not LP's (well worth preserving in plastic). Chop the thing up and put it into a handy dandy CD booklet and store the liner note booklet in your bookcase with your other Pop-Lit. JB/anal retentive storage artist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Flashbacks series on Trikont Date: 02 Dec 2000 20:30:56 +0100 From www.trikont.de "This is German label Trikont's new series of imaginative and nicely packaged re-issues of out-of-copyright US 78s from the first half of the last century. What they have in common is good remastering, digipaks with extensive notes in German and English (the latter excellent by Keith Chandler, the former by Werner Pieper would need a German reader to judge but look just as informatively dense), and around two dozen tracks apiece. The selections are a good balance of the well-known (but possibly not with an existing place in your home) and the wonderfully obscure. The theming is occasionally a little odd - some tracks clutch at subject staws, others simply seem to have simply jumped disc - but nobody's complaining. The fRoots listening panel came down heavily in favour of drugs, sex and rock'n'roll in that order - and in fact the numbering of the series seems to pretty much follow our placings as to desirability. To give you a taster, #1 has Lord Buckley's pal Harry The Hipster enquiring Who Put The Benzedrine In Mrs Murphy's Ovaltine? Blue Lu Barker's Don't Make Me High and Dick Justice's Cocaine (but wilfully misinterprets the title of Bukka White's Fixin' To Die unless I missed something all these years!); #2 includes The Hoosier Hot Shots' I Like Bananas Because They Have No Bones, Lonzo & Oscar's I'm My Own Granpa and the utterly bizarre Viennese Seven Singing Sisters' William Tell Overture; #3 kicks off with Alberta Hunter's You Can't Tell The Difference After Dark and goes via The Light Crust Doughboys' Pussy, Pussy, Pussy to Lucille Bogan's rightly infamous Shave 'Em Dry; #4 has as diverse blues as you can get, from Blind Willie Johnson via Mezz Mezzrow to the Ink Spots with Ella Fitzgerald; #5 is the glorious sound of gospel varieties - Golden Gate Quartet, Soul Stirrers, Sister Rosetta Tharpe - that'll thrill you even if your religion only runs as far as Vols 1 & 3. And then there's #6 which, although it includes favourites like the Golden Gate Quartet's Stalin' Wasn't Stallin', the Southern Sons Quartet's Praise The Lord And Pass The Ammunition and some heartfelt tracks by Leadbelly and the extraordinary Rev. J.M. Gates, is otherwise far too full of over-sincere ham-acted jingoist kack: useful if you need inducement to vomit but for little else apart from a view on true historical awfulness. Vols 1 & 2 are definitely indispensable and among the better and more entertaining re-issues of the year. Vols 3, 4 & 5 are pretty desirable too. You can probably skip Vol. 6 unless you're a set work perfectionist, a masochist or George W. Bush. Distributed in the U.K. by Klang, Tel 01422 842212, or worldwide check www.trikont.de tracklists of volume 1 & 2 Flashbacks Vol. 1:High & LowDrogensongs 1. The Ink Spots:That cat is high 2.53 2. Champion Jack Dupree:Junker's blues 2.40 3. Harry 'The Hipster' Gibson:Who put the benzedrine in Mrs. Murphys Ovaltine 3.04 4. Blue Lu Barker: Don't you make me high 2.35 5. Kansas Joe and Memphis Minnie:I´m wild about my stuff 2.56 6. Stuff Smith & His Onyx Club Boys:You're a viper 3.13 7. McKinney Cotton Pickers:Selling that stuff 2.43 8. Peter Cleighton with Blind John Davis:Moonshine man blues 2.55 9. Florence Desmond:Cigarettes, Cigars 3.22 10. Mills Blue Rhythm Band:Minnie the Moochers wedding day 3.01 11. Cab Calloway:The ghost of Smokey Joe 2.44 12. Waring's Pennsylvanians:Let's have another cup of coffee 3.11 13. Victoria Spivey & Lonnie Johnson:Dope head blues 3.13 14. Ella Fitzgerald & Chick Webb & His Orchestra:Wacky Dust 3.02 15. Bukka White:Fixin' to die blues 2.45 16. Memphis Jug Band:Cocaine habit blues 2.48 17. Baron Lee & the Blue Rhythm Band:Reefer Man 2.48 18. Dick Justice:Cocaine 3.01 19. Asa Martin:Jake walk papa 3.10 20. Louis Armstrong:Kickin' the gong around 3.12 21. Rosetta Howard & the Harlem Hamfats:The Candy Man 2.10 22. Ray Noble & the New Mayfair Orchestra:Repeal the blues 2.14 23. Gene Krupa & his Orchestra:Feeling high and happy 2.41 24. Jean Brady & Big Bill Broonzy:Knockin` myself out 3.11 25. Herbert Payne:Smoke Clouds Flashbacks Vol. 2:Crazy and Obscure Novelty Songs 1. The Andrew Sisters:Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy 2.42 2. Hoosier Hot Shots:I like bananas, because they have no bones 3.15 3. Groucho Marx:I'm against it 3.00 4. George van Dusen:The yodelling Chinaman 2.53 5. The Ink Spots:Mama don't allow 3.07 6. Lonzo & Oscar:I'm my own grandpa 3.03 7. Six Jumping Jacks:I do not chose to run 2.43 8. Spike Jones:Ta-Hu-Wa-Hu-Wai (Hawaiian War Chant) 2.42 9. Danny Kaye:Tschaikowsky (and other Russians) 0.51 10. Ross & Sargent:Nellie the nudist queen 3.05 11. Kanui & Lula:Tomi, Tomi 2.54 12. Billy Costello:I'm Popeye, the sailor man 2.25 13. Waring`s Pennsylvanians:I scream, you scream 2.27 14. Cab Calloway:The Scat Song 2.44 15. Jimmy Durante:Inka Dinka Doo 3.01 16. Carmen Miranda:I Yi Yi Yi Yi 2.10 17. Billy Murray:The little old Ford 3.20 18. Slim Gaillard and Slam Stewart:Palm Springs Jump 2.36 19. De Ford Bailey:Pan American Blues 2.51 20. Stan Laurel & Oliver Hardy:Bed Strings 1.14 21. The 5 Jones Boys:Mr. Ghost goes to town 2.57 22. Ronald Frankau & Monte Crick:Everyone's got sex-appeal for someone 2.45 23. Viennese Seven Singing Sisters:William Tell Overture 2.35 24. Memphis Jug Band:Insane Crazy Blues 3.05 25. Whit Cunliffe:Hoch, hoch der Kaiser! 1.24 26. Spike Jones:Der Führer's face 2.37 27. The Okey Laughing Record 2.44 Flashbacks Vol. 3 Hot and Sexy Kopulationsblues Flashbacks Vol. 4: Blue and Lonely Heartbreaking Songs Flashbacks Vol. 5: Gospel and Prayers Hallelujah Music Flashbacks Vol. 6 Hitler & Hell American WarSongs There is also a fourth (!) CD out with covers of "La Paloma" Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Arling & Cameron Date: 02 Dec 2000 11:39:07 -0800 >Not many people seem to know A&C, >which is hard to believe. Who are they anyway? Dutch, >I suppose. > >Mo Lots of people know Arling & Cameron! Not as many people know them in the US but they've definitely had their 15 minutes in Europe. If you're interested in the history of easy, you should acquaint yourself with them. They started out as DJs, and started the Get Easy! parties in Amsterdam in the early 90s, which is what helped the resurgence of interest in easy music flourish across Europe. Loungecore anyone? Then they started the Drive-In label, produced a bunch of other artists music, (including a christmas single, I might ad, two songs by Juan Wells and Johnny Diamond) and then moved on to making their own music. They're also fairly popular in Japan (but then again, what isn't?) Cameron also continues to DJ with his wife Karin Ras who was also there from the beginning. Their US tour last year, they spun a lot of records, including their own. This year maybe they will perform some music? Don't know yet. The ALL-IN record, the LP before MFIF was also really good, though the only conceptual point of it was that "all-in" meant "all inclusive", because they felt that people had spent too much time pegging them as only interested in easy and lounge, while they wanted to show that people could have a good time to all kinds of music. You can always check out the EmperorNorton site for more. They have a link to the Drive-In site too. Mr. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, crime jazz, free jazz, soundtrack music, and Now Sound, on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). http://www.supersphere.com Great Gift Idea! FREE cell phone, internet ready at Lycos Marketplace http://www.inphonic.lycos.com/redirect.asp?referringpage=www.lycosd1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 02 Dec 2000 16:52:06 -0600 Something old and something new on this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast. Among the new, we'll sample Rhino's amazing sci- fi collection "Brain in a Box"; Nicola Conte's "Jet Sounds"; Seksu Roba; "Bossa Galore" from Cinevox, and others. Among the old(er), you'll find music from Dick Hyman and Leonard Feather's early '50s "Hi-Fi Suite"; Leith Stevens' "Exploring the Unknown"; blazing bongos by Mike Pacheco; from "The Exotic Sounds of Love", Bebe Bardon moans/101 Strings plays; Vinnie Bell's sitar-ized cover of "Quiet Village"; plus tunes by The Three Suns, Bob Thompson, Tony Mottola ("Danger Bossa Nova"!), Balanco and Les Baxter. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour right now, visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Or tune in for the live stereo webcast TONIGHT (Saturday) at 7:00pm Central USA time at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/realaudio/index.htm As always, your requests, comments, etc. are welcome. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, December 3 Date: 02 Dec 2000 21:18:32 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #120 Soundtracks And Psych-Outs From "The Back Ward" This week's show comes to you courtesy of James Brouwer - he put together a compilation of favourite tracks from his show, which he calls "Best Of The Back Ward" - and we agree - it's all pretty good stuff. It's mostly soundtracks, all from the 1960s and early 70s. If you like this sort of music, you may want to tune in to his show, as well (The Back Ward, every Wednesday from 10 am to 11 am on CFRU 93.3FM in Guelph, Ontario, Canada, and on the web at http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm )(It's on right after "Mondo Bongos" - quite the morning of musical goodies in Guelph!) Mind Expanders: Pulsation "What's Happening ost" Raymond Scott: Limbo: Organised Mind Mike Curb: Pot Party "Teenage Rebellion ost" Jerry Goldsmith: The Trip "Sebastian ost" GP/GF Reverberi: Sequence Four Stu Phillips: Flowers "Hell's Angels On Wheels ost" Mike Curb: Grass Party "Mary Jane ost" Mike Curb: Love Children "Psych-Out ost" Billy Goldenberg: Christine In Las Vegas "Grasshopper ost" Teddy Randozzo: Out Of The Frying Pan "Girl From Uncle ost" Henry Mancini: Really Big Heist "The Thief Who Came To Dinner ost" Jerry Butler: Title Theme / Part 3 "Melinda ost" Isaac Hayes: Hospital Shootout "Truck Turner ost" Bullet: Contract Man "Hanged Man ost" Gal Costa: Que Pena "Gal" Som Imaginario: Super-God "Som Imaginario" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re:days of being wild Date: 02 Jan 2000 12:23:27 +0800 DQoNCg0KPmkgYmVsaWV2ZSBpdCdzICJkYXlzIG9mIGJlaW5nIHdpbGQiIGJ1dCBpdCBtaWdodCBh bHNvIGJlICJhcyB0ZWFycyA+Z28gYnkiLiB0aGUgcHJvYmxlbSBpcyB0aGlzIGlzIGEgYnVybiBm cm9tIGEgYnVybiBmcm9tIGEgYnVybi4uLmFuZCA+YWxhcyB0aGVyZSBhcmUgbm8gc29uZ3RpdGxl cy4gYW5kIGknbSBwcmV0dHkgc3VyZSB0aGlzIHNvdW5kdHJhY2sgPmhhcyBiZWVuID5vdXQgb2Yg cHJpbnQgZm9yIHF1aXRlIHNvbWUgdGltZS4gDQoNCj5TdXBwb3NlZGx5IHRoZXJlIGhhdmUgbmV2 ZXIgYmVlbiBzb3VuZHRyYWNrIGFsYnVtcyBmb3IgZWl0aGVyIGZpbG0uICBJcyBpdCBwb3NzaWJs ZSB0aGF0IHRoaXMgd2FzIG1hZGUgZGlyZWN0bHkgZnJvbSB0aGUgZmlsbT8gICJEYXlzIG9mIEJl aW5nIFdpbGQiIGlzIG1vc3RseSBYYXZpZXIgQ3VnYXQgYnV0IEkndmUgZm9yZ290dGVuIGFib3V0 ICJBcyA+PiAgPlRlYXJzIEdvIEJ5LiINCg0KICAgIG9kZGx5IGVub3VnaCBpIGNvdWxkIG5vdCBy ZWFkIG15IHBvc3Qgd2hlbiAgaXQgc2hvd2VkIHVwIG9uIG15IGRpZ2VzdCBpdCBqdXN0IGxvb2tl ZCBsaWtlIGdpYmJlcmlzaC4gYW55b25lIGVsc2UgaGF2ZSB0aGlzIHByb2JsZW0/IHdlJ3ZlIGJl ZW4gaGF2aW5nIHNvbWUgY29tcHV0ZXIgcHJvYmxlbXMgaGVyZSBhcyBvZiBsYXRlLg0KDQogICAg YW55d2F5cywgaSB0aG91Z2h0IHRoZSBvc3QgZGlkbid0IGV4aXN0IGVpdGhlci4gYnV0IHRoZW4g bXkgZnJpZW5kIHNhaWQgaGlzIGZyaWVuZCB3aG8gaXMgYSBiaWcgd29uZyBrYXItd2FpIGZhbiBo YWQgaXQuIHRoZSBkaXNjIGkgaGF2ZSBoYXMgMjMgdHJhY2tzLiBidXQgbm93IGknbSBzdGFydGlu ZyB0byB3b25kZXIgaWYgaXQncyBub3QgYWxsIHhhdmllciBjdWdhdC4gYXMgc29tZSBvZiB0aGUg c29uZ3MgaSBoYXZlIG9uIGEgY29tcCBvZiBjdWdhdCdzIGFuZCB0aGV5IG1hdGNoIGV4YWN0bHku IHNvIG1heWJlIHNvbWVvbmUganVzdCBtYWRlIGEgbGlzdCBvZiBzb25ncyBmcm9tIHRoZSBmaWxt IGFuZCBwdXQgdG9nZXRoZXIgYSBjb21wLiBpJ20gbm90IHN1cmUuDQoNCiAgdGhpcyBpcyB3aGF0 IGkgZm91bmQgb24gYSB3b25nIGthci13YWkgc2l0ZToNCg0KIA0KICANCkRheXMgb2YgQmVpbmcg V2lsZCBTb3VuZHRyYWNrIEluZm86DQoNCldoaWxlIHRoZXJlIHJlbWFpbnMgbm8gb2ZmaWNpYWwg c291bmR0cmFjayB0byBkYXRlLCB0aGUgbXVzaWMgZmVhdHVyZWQgaW4gdGhlIGZpbG0gY2FuIGJl IGZvdW5kIG9uIHRoZSBmb2xsb3dpbmcgQ0QnczogDQoNClRoaXMgaW5mbyBjYW1lIGZyb20gYSB2 aXNpdG9yIHRvIExva21hbidzIG9yaWdpbmFsIFdLVyBzaXRlLiANCg0KTWFueSB0aGFua3MgdG8g TG9yaSBIaXRjaGNvY2shDQoNCkkgZG9uJ3Qga25vdyBpZiB5b3UgYXJlIGFscmVhZHkgYXdhcmUg b2YgdGhpcyBvciBpbnRlcmVzdGVkLCBidXQgdGhlDQpsYXRpbiB0cmFja3MgdXNlZCBpbiAiRGF5 cyBvZiBCZWluZyBXaWxkIiB3ZXJlIGFsbCAoP0kgdGhpbms/KSB0YWtlbg0KZnJvbSBhbiBhbGJ1 bSBlbnRpdGxlZCAiQmVzdCBvZiBYYXZpYSBDdWdhdCIgKDE5OTYgTWVyY3VyeSBNdXNpYw0KRW50 ZXJ0YWlubWVudCBDby4sIEx0ZC4pLiAgVGhlIHRyYWNrcyB1c2VkIGluIHRoZSBtb3ZpZSBhcmU6 IE15IFNoYXdsOw0KUGVyZmlkaWE7IFNpYm9uZXk7IEp1bmdsZSBEcmVhbXM7IE1hcmlhIEVsZW5h Lg0KDQpUaGUgZHJlYW15IEhhd2FpaWFuIG11c2ljIGZyb20gdGhlIGJlZ2lubmluZywgaXMgb24g dGhpcyBDRDoNCkNEIFRpdGxlOiBMb3MgSW5kaW9zIFRhYmFqYXJhcyAvIEFsd2F5cyBpbiBNeSBI ZWFydA0KQ29tcGFueSA6IFJDQSBSZWNvcmRzICgxOTY0IC0gMXN0IHRpbWUgcmVsZWFzZWQpDQog ICAgICAgICAgUGFjaWZpYyBNdXNpYyBDby4sIEx0ZC4gKDE5ODYgLSByZS1yZWxlYXNlZCkNCg0K QW5vdGhlciBzb25nICh0aGUgZW5kIGNyZWRpdHM/KSBjYW4gYmUgZm91bmQgb24gdGhlIGxhdGVz dCBDRCBvZiBMZXNsaWUgQ2hldW5nIEt3b2sgV2luZy4NCg0KDQpDRCBUaXRsZTogTGVzbGllIENo ZXVuZyAvIENyYXp5IExvdmUgKENvbmcgTmdveSkNCkNvbXBhbnkgOiBSb2NrIFJlY29yZHMgMTk5 NA0KIA0KDQoNCiAgICBpIGNoZWNrZWQgdGhlIHRyYWNrbGlzdGluZyBvbiB0aGUgYmVzdCBvZiBk aXNjIHRoZXkgbWVudGlvbmVkIGFuZCBpdCBkb2VzIG5vdCBmb2xsb3cgd2hhdCBpIGhhdmUuIHNv IGknbSBub3Qgc3VyZSB3aGF0IGl0IGlzIGV4YWN0bHkgaSBoYXZlLmhtbW0uDQoNCg0KICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgd2lsbGlhbSBpbiB0YWlwZWkuDQoNCg0KDQo= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Moritz.Reichelt" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nuggets 4 CD box Date: 03 Dec 2000 13:10:21 +0100 DJJimmyBee@aol.com schrieb: > > As for storage, my policy on boxed sets of CD's is basically "fuck the > packaging", its CD's not LP's (well worth preserving in plastic). Chop the > thing up and put it into a handy dandy CD booklet and store the liner note > booklet in your bookcase with your other Pop-Lit. Right... this brillant idea came to my mind, too. I don't even keep the jewel cases of my CDs, just the booklets with the inlay card. There is a system with soft transparent covers where you can put the paper and the CD in; helps saving space a lot. But I don't use it, I just keep the booklets and get up to 90 CDs into one empty box of Hoyo de Monterey Petit Coronations cigars. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Monsieur records Date: 03 Dec 2000 15:20:12 +0100 just received from Subliminal Sounds: "Wowsville!", a bit of a mix of the kind of tracks you'd expect from "Born Bad", "Wavy Gravy", "Las Vegas Grind", "The Big Itch". Several novelty songs, some beatnik jazz, also some rather "normal" R&R, that I didn't like. all in all a welcome addition. on the back of this (new) LP is a list of the complete Monsieur catalog; they all sound yummy !-- assuming this isn't the fruit of some wacky imagination, and all of these exist, does anyone have anything from them? if so, let us know what is on it. i'm especially interested in wacky novelty stuff. here it goes: the first item is the title, the second is a description given by Monsieur records: Weirdsville! "Weirdo obscurities" Teeen Age Creature "The maddest monster mashes" Astro-Sonic "Music from the outer limits" Twisted "Twisted twist tracks" Zombie Stomp "More monster R&R" Juke Box From Outer Space "More Music from the outer limits" Voodoo Walk "Voodoo R&R" Sob, Sob, Sob "Pleading and cruying R&B" Do It Zulu Style "Crazed dances for the Wahtusi generation" One-Eyed Monster "TV tunes" Law Of The Jungle "Feversih jungle R&R" Comanche! "Red Indian R&R to wound your kness" LSD Made A Wreck Out Of Me "A community service release" Psycho "Songs from the rubber room" Just The Facts "The coolest cuts inspired by the great cop shows" Doin' The King's Thing "Wildest & craziest Elvis reworkings" Ape Call "Nervous Norvus uncovered rarities" Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Grace your stereo pit with this! Date: 03 Dec 2000 13:26:26 -0600 And you can say with pride, "I made it myself!" Turn an unplayable LP into a stylin' wall clock. Here's how: http://homecraft.chickclick.com/articles/10469.html Anyone have good ideas for transforming nasty records or ruined CDs into other desirable objects? Extra points for recreating spools of broken audio tapes as something else. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Sampling / Nicola Conte New Album Date: 04 Dec 2000 00:47:45 +0100 (MET) I don’t know this Kaempfert Tune, but there is also the sampled rhythm from Lalo Schifrins "the Man from Thrush" in "Bossa Per Due". In his Track "Jet Sounds" he use "The Getaway" from Schifrins More Mission Impossible Soundtrack The way he creates with samples new tracks is for me absolute genius. BTW. Still nobody did post about his fantastic debut album JET SOUNDS ? Ist’s out now : NICOLA CONTE –JET SOUNDS, 2LP/CD ? on Schema Records 2000,SCLP 314 Even if you have all his 12inch Records witch are also on the LP (but in a little bit different mixes), you would not be disappointed about the new tracks. There is the fantastic and very danceable LA CODA DEL DIAVOLO that includes Samples from Tito Puentes "Hit The Bongo". IL CERCHIO ROSSO is a great relaxt easy bossa dance tune & DOSSIER OMEGA is good SITAR track. For me at the moment the album of the year! Did anybody else recognize other Samples that Conte use ? Martin >"Brad wrote: .....Completely off the subject, has >anyone noticed that Nicola Conte's "Bossa Per Due," >off the 18th Street Lounge Soundtracks/"Jet Society" >CD (and also featured on the Acura "Palm Springs" TV >commercial) is ripped off from "Bert's Bossa Nova" on >Bert Kaempfert's 1963 album, "That Latin Feeling"? >Way to go, Bert!..." > > >Holy Moly! Good call, Brad! Sounds like the same >version but just sped up. On a similar note, there's a >website that lists songs that use "samples" of other >songs. It's >http://members.accessus.net/~xombi/intro.html. Of >interest is the "jazz" section which lists what jazz >songs have been sampled. > >- --John,www.schlockmagazine.com -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Sampling / Nicola Conte New Album Date: 03 Dec 2000 21:08:42 EST In a message dated 12/3/0 6:50:11 PM, Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: >Still nobody did post about his fantastic debut album JET SOUNDS ? I just got my copy Friday. I did have a few of the tunes on 12" rekkids and on compilations, yet I like them all in one package. The cover is gawgeous. The thing about him is that he seems to combine live playing, sampling and electronica to produce a unique sound..good for the dance floor, yet good for the aural experience alone as well. I also received a nice chuckle from his thank-you's where he thanks one fella named "Br. Clive"...JB/lives for errors like that # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sampling / Nicola Conte New Album Date: 03 Dec 2000 22:21:28 -0500 At 9:08 PM -0500 12/3/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >the aural experience alone as well. I also received a nice chuckle from >[Nicola Conte's] >thank-you's where he thanks one fella named "Br. Clive"... I think "i" is pronounced as "e" in Italian, so phonetically Nicola's right. But next time I see him...... Just spotted this brand new release on juno.co.uk today: CONTE, Nicola: Bossa Per Due (Schema Italy) 12": Bossa Per Due (Thievery Corporation remix)/The In Samba (Kyoto Jazz Massive remix) (SCEP 326) oh yeah, he samples a version of the "I Spy" theme on the b-side of "Forma 2000" br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Arling & Cameron - Music For Imaginary Films Date: 04 Dec 2000 13:27:25 -0000 And a lot more people have heard them now, 'Voulez Vous' from dammit can't remember the title (one off?), the first (?) LP was on 'The Soprano's' episode I saw last week. (they're just showing series 2 over here). I loved music for imaginary films, but then I bought the first one and I love it even more. Its a lot more coherent, as you'd expect as they're not trying to emulate a range of styles. Some nice whistling, a little bit Drum and Bass, a little bit mellow. Really very good. It was when I bought this I knew I was going to start forking over my cash in large amounts on new records again, after a nice economical period buying almost all second hand stuff. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius After hearing this CD on Space Bob I bought me a copy and it's absolutely fantastic. The booklet holds an imaginary film poster for each song, done by such capacities as Joost Swaart and others. the music - - well... it's not surprising, all within the range of sophisticated lounge pop, but extremely well done. Not many people seem to know A&C, which is hard to believe. Who are they anyway? Dutch, I suppose. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) On the subject of UK TV Date: 04 Dec 2000 13:39:34 -0000 For any other UK listers who like 60's punk, garage whatever you want to call it, theres a profile of Mike Spenser on Channel 4 on Friday/Saturday 'Trail of Trash' about 3 in the morning. Mike's what you would call a character. Founder and singer in The Cannibals (1st single a yet to be bettered version of 'Nadine' IMHO), he also used to run IPS, who would manufacture LP's and sleeves as a whole package in the early 80's using Eastern Block pressing plants that needed foreign currency after the collapse of the Berlin Wall. He pressed up our first LP. I just have a picture of this Hungarian pressing plant, used to manufacturing the highest quality classical music on the highest quality vinyl, mastering and making terrible LP's by unknown UK acts. even Spenser called our LP 'Raw'. It was. He also manufactured the Pebbles boxed sets that were available late 80's. Quite a character, we lost an unexpected near hit on another tune as the turnaround time was 6 weeks and we couldn't get a second pressing sorted out. So we got professional. Should be entertaining. I imagine he'd be very difficult to work with for any period of time. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Arling & Cameron - Music For Imaginary Films Date: 04 Dec 2000 10:25:23 -0500 G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > > And a lot more people have heard them now, 'Voulez Vous' from dammit can't > remember the title (one off?), the first (?) LP was on 'The Soprano's' > episode I saw last week. (they're just showing series 2 over here). Many people on this list don't seem to be aware that there is a third (in my opinion, also the best) Arling & Cameron CD - it's called "Sound Shopping", and is on Basta - it's probably only available as a European import, but I believe Basta has it on their site for sale as well. And there are the Easy Tune CDs that are Arling & Cameron under a host of different names. More music to discover, more money to spend... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Arling & Cameron - Music For Imaginary Films Date: 04 Dec 2000 12:00:40 -0500 cheryl wrote: >Many people on this list don't seem to be aware that there is a third (in my opinion, also the best) Arling & Cameron CD - it's called "Sound Shopping", and is on Basta - it's probably only available as a European import, but I believe Basta has it on their site for sale as well. I got my copy at http://www.fantagraphics.com/cart/ Seeing has how this is a Comics publisher, you'll have to search for "Joost Swarte". IIRC, it was just under US$20. lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Transistors : "Atelier" maxi Date: 03 Dec 2000 19:38:23 +0100 just found out that the Transistors did a maxi called "Atelier" (also on Right Tempo) prior to the "Mission on Venus". anyone heard it? Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wayne Newton - E! Vegas Week Date: 04 Dec 2000 13:08:01 -0500 DJJB wrote: >Just in time for the Holidays! E! Network (I think, if not VH-1) is doing a >"Behind The True Story" type of show on Wayne Newton. In the plug they showed >the ol' B&W days of his appearances on the Jackie Gleason show. I think it >starts on Saturday at 9PM and they usually air those things for several >days..Heads up..JB "True Hollywood Story" on E!. Aired last night. Much the same as A&E's Biography episode. Occasional performance footage cut very slim. I think A&E was a little more generous with it. This week is "Vegas Week" on True Hollywood Story. A real assortment. Tonight (Monday) - Frank Sinatra Tuesday - Liberace Wednesday - Dennis Rodman Thursday - Dean Martin Friday - Siegfried & Roy m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Wayne Newton - E! Vegas Week Date: 04 Dec 2000 14:26:45 EST In a message dated 12/4/0 1:08:37 PM, mace@ookworld.com wrote: >This week is "Vegas Week" on True Hollywood Story. A real assortment >Wednesday - Dennis Rodman Would you e-mail me Wednesday and remind me to see this must-see television event? Not? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) bend it Date: 04 Dec 2000 14:36:57 -0500 A followup. I don't know if many more than Mo will be interested, but on a return trip, I snagged that previously mentioned sheet music for "Bend It!" by Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich. See the front cover here: http://ookworld.com/bend_it.jpg Back cover, with elaborate instructions for the official dance here: http://ookworld.com/bend_it_back.jpg Lyrics (without comment): "I'm so sure we could go on forever there's no doubt without your loving baby I'm a loner, on my owner Bend it, bend it, just a little bit and take it easy, show you're likin' it and Ah! Show me now! Yeah! That's right! C'mon now!" m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Millionaire Subject: (exotica) Joey Altruda live broadcast today Date: 04 Dec 2000 11:51:22 -0800 Hi All, Forgive the self-promotion, but I thought y'all might be interested in knowing Joey Altruda ("Cocktails With Joey", "Joey Altruda's Mambo Noir Orchestra") and Plas Johnson ("The Pink Panther",Les Baxter's "Jungle Jazz" ,sideman with Frank Sinatra, Nelson Riddle, etc etc etc) will be performoimg live in the studio at LuxuriaMusic today at 2:00 PM (pacific standard time).They've got a new Christmas CD out and i think we can expect some groovy early-seasonal cheer. Also, a giant thanks, once more, for all the help we've received from Listers on our Beatles extravaganza (this Friday,all day!). Thanks to you guys, it's going to be a real lollapalooza! Ciao! The Millionaire LuxuriaMusic 1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401 phone:(310) 319-3833 fax:(240) 376-7734 www.luxuriamusic.com "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -Hunter S. Thompson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) CD Burners Date: 04 Dec 2000 14:06:16 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:23:47 EST >From: Dj45rpm@aol.com >Subject: (exotica) Which CD-burner's the best? > >While we're on the subject.. >As someone who's about to get a CD writer/burner of his own, I was just >wondering what brand/model people here have had the best luck with? I really like my LaCie 12x writer. I can burn a full 70 minute CD in under 10 minutes. But as others have said, I have the best luck in avoiding errors by checking Disk At Once, burning from AIFF files rather than other CDs or MP3s, and writing a disk image to disk before burning. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) used electronica breakbeat mysteries Date: 04 Dec 2000 19:11:19 -0500 I saw these used. They look like they're in the ballpark but I don't trust that look, especially when it comes to this kind of music. So... would I like...? Los Jardiniers - Cafeteria or "Off Limits" mixed and compiled by Dixon. The Los Jardinier looked right because of the graphics and just the names of the group and the record The Off limits looked right because one of the cuts was by the Truby Trio who I know I like. So dish... AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) for true exotica fans Date: 04 Dec 2000 19:46:35 -0500 If I still bought this kind of stuff, I'd bid on this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=512870688 For those of you who won't click on it without a hint of what it is, it's by Dominic Frontiere, it's called Pagan Festival and some of the song titles include: Moon Goddess, Venus Girl and House of Pleasure Just that last title is making me reconsider. There's only 19 hours to go. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) in that same auction Date: 04 Dec 2000 19:53:17 -0500 that last ebay auction I posted about.. well the guy also has tiki mugs including this supposedly "naked" one http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=515131951 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) for true exotica fans Date: 05 Dec 2000 09:39:10 -0500 This on is just OK for me. I got this for a dollar a few years ago. A = bit too Hollywoodish with the strings ala 101. =20 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 >=20 > If I still bought this kind of stuff, I'd bid on this one: >=20 > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D512870688 >=20 >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) for true exotica fans Date: 05 Dec 2000 07:22:22 -0800 (PST) One of my all time favorite lps. Dominic Frontiere is a genious!! This lp is framed hanging proudly in my dining room. I'm always hungry for more of this. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- alan zweig wrote: > > If I still bought this kind of stuff, I'd bid on this one: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=512870688 > > For those of you who won't click on it without a hint of what it > is, it's > by Dominic Frontiere, it's called Pagan Festival and some of the > song > titles include: > Moon Goddess, Venus Girl and House of Pleasure > > Just that last title is making me reconsider. There's only 19 > hours to go. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) for true exotica fans Date: 05 Dec 2000 11:11:38 -0500 At 07:22 AM 12/5/00 -0800, chuck wrote: >One of my all time favorite lps. Dominic Frontiere is a genious!! >This lp is framed hanging proudly in my dining room. I'm always >hungry for more of this. No arguments there! However, this cover looks as if there was a festival held on top of it. Big talk from a fellow who has the record, without the cover... Are there other interesting Frontieres to seek out? Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Arling & Cameron - Music For Imaginary Films Date: 05 Dec 2000 08:35:23 -0800 (PST) Sound Shopping is also my favorite album by Arl & Cam. The packaging is fantastic! Cool artwork! Music for Imaginary films makes my top ten list for this year. Its also on my little four year olds list of cds she packs for road trips. Responding once again to Cheryl's recommendation. Chuck --- cheryl wrote: > Many people on this list don't seem to be aware that there is a > third> (in my opinion, also the best) Arling & Cameron CD - it's called> "Sound Shopping", and is on Basta - it's probably only available as a European import, but I believe Basta has it on their site for sale as well. And> there are the Easy Tune CDs that are Arling & Cameron under a host of different names. > > More music to discover, more money to spend... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Flashbacks series on Trikont Date: 05 Dec 2000 09:49:15 -0800 (PST) I can't recommend this series and label enough! Unbelievable!!! Some of this music is finally seeing its first re-release in 80 years! I believe these two guys are from Germany and are experts at unearthing obscure songs. The Flashback series contains obscure and familiar songs from way back in the music world. I like the novelty one the best (Vol 2) but thats just my taste. These are all fantastic releases. A major event in the modern music world that I hope will influence future artistic releases. The distributor for Trikont shares the building with http://www.othermusic.com These releases are available for $13 at othermusic as is the 3-vol set of La Poloma covers, which I have ordered but not yet listened to. (Cleve, does this entitle me to membership in the knuckelheads club?) I was at the othermusic site yesterday listening to sound samples on real audio and I was astounded at how much good music is coming out today. So much good music to listen to on cd and lp and so little time to keep up with it, not to mention afford it. Easy listening in the Big easy Chuck --- Arjan Plug wrote: > > From www.trikont.de > > "This is German label Trikont's new series of imaginative and __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Andre Popp Date: 05 Dec 2000 21:16:12 -0500 I know that Andre Popp's "Delirium In Hi-Fi" CD on Basta is a reissue of the original by "Elsa Popping" - what I want to know is, is there any reason to have the original LP as well as the CD, or are they both identical? (and what should the LP be worth?) That's my musical trivia question for the day... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Andre Popp Date: 05 Dec 2000 21:20:26 -0800 > I know that Andre Popp's "Delirium In Hi-Fi" CD on Basta is a reissue of > the original by "Elsa Popping" - what I want to know is, is there any > reason to have the original LP as well as the CD, or are they both > identical? (and what should the LP be worth?) I guess that comes down to an indivdual's own preference. I know some people that are just happy to have the music - it does not matter if it is on a cheap tape with no track list. That's enough for them. I also know some people that pursue the original albums even though they has been reissued on CD. They accept no substitutes and will pay good money for them. Although I don't know any, I suppose there are some people that get rid of their vinyl originals once something get's put on CD. Ouch. I have both the Basta CD and the Columbia LP of "Delirium In Hi-Fi". I had the record first and it's a treasure. I'm not really sure why I bought the CD, probably to take it to work and listen. The original artwork on the CD is different and that's too bad. Otherwise, they are the same, no bonus tracks I don't think. What is the LP worth? I think I paid about $30 about 5 years ago. I've seen some people on ebay sneak in on ebay and get it for less than $10, I've also seen it go for more like $40 (which is probably about right) there too, depending on how it is advertised and who is selling it. That's a wonderful album, keep it and chuck the CD, I say. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Eden Ahbez - Eden's Island Date: 05 Dec 2000 21:42:53 -0800 Moritz R wrote: > > Anybody familiar with this Exotica album of 1960? I've seen the cover > every once in a while, I think it's also in one of the Incredible > Strange Music books. Now, this album is reissued on vinyl and on CD, > apparently for 5 years now, but I got my copy just today. It's an > absolutely fantastic amazing Exotica highlight! It's Top Ten Exotica, if > you ask me. I heard there's a story going along with this guy, but I > can't remember having read it anywhere. On the cover he looks like > Jesus. Call it heresey but I didn't really get into this... the song I sampled with a male singer was truly grating... -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Eden Ahbez - Eden's Island Date: 05 Dec 2000 22:51:36 -0800 > Call it heresey but I didn't really get into this... the song I sampled > with a male singer was truly grating... Eek! Hard to believe anybody into "exotica" could so easily dismiss this masterpiece recording. If I understand your post, you checked out a sample on CDNOW or some similar site? The grating male singer is Eden Ahbez. He wrote Nat King Coles "Nature Boy" and lived in the hills of Hollywood, eating nuts and berries. His is a fascinating story and I highly recommend hearing more of this truly amazing album before offically putting it on your shit list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Andre Popp Date: 06 Dec 2000 08:30:53 -0500 >What is the LP worth? I think I paid about $30 about 5 years ago. I've >seen some people on ebay sneak in on ebay and get it for less than $10, I've >also seen it go for more like $40 (which is probably about right) there too, >depending on how it is advertised and who is selling it. Or you get lucky like myself, not knowing what it was when you looked at it in the store, but figuring it would be good and paying 3 dollars for it (it was one of my first Exotica purchases, cue a swell of violins, please). Does the CD have the liner notes of the LP? If not, do try to seek out the LP as well. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) About the Cuckoo Bird Date: 06 Dec 2000 14:42:37 +0100 "Among the 47 species of cuculines, various adaptations enhance the=20 survival of the young cuckoo: egg mimicry, in which the cuckoo egg=20 resembles that of the host, thus minimizing rejection by the host;=20 removal of one or more host eggs by the adult cuckoo, reducing both the competition from host nestlings and the danger of recognition=20 by the host that an egg has been added to the nest" - Encyclopedia=20 Brittanica The Word Spy for 12/05/2000 -- cuckoo egg cuckoo egg (noun) An MP3 song file that contains either a song different than what its=20 name suggests, or a short sample of the song followed by noises or an anti-Napster message. 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One can inquire @ promo@del-fi.com Hope that he'ps..JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Andre Popp Date: 06 Dec 2000 12:34:39 -0500 I have the CD (which I love), but saw the record for the equivalent of about $20 US - so I figured for that price, it would have to be a little different for me to want to pick up. Still not sure... cheryl Basic Hip wrote: > > > I know that Andre Popp's "Delirium In Hi-Fi" CD on Basta is a reissue of > > the original by "Elsa Popping" - what I want to know is, is there any > > reason to have the original LP as well as the CD, or are they both > > identical? (and what should the LP be worth?) > > I guess that comes down to an indivdual's own preference. I know some > people that are just happy to have the music - it does not matter if it is > on a cheap tape with no track list. That's enough for them. > > I also know some people that pursue the original albums even though they has > been reissued on CD. They accept no substitutes and will pay good money for > them. > > Although I don't know any, I suppose there are some people that get rid of > their vinyl originals once something get's put on CD. Ouch. > > I have both the Basta CD and the Columbia LP of "Delirium In Hi-Fi". I had > the record first and it's a treasure. I'm not really sure why I bought the > CD, probably to take it to work and listen. The original artwork on the CD > is different and that's too bad. Otherwise, they are the same, no bonus > tracks I don't think. > > What is the LP worth? I think I paid about $30 about 5 years ago. I've > seen some people on ebay sneak in on ebay and get it for less than $10, I've > also seen it go for more like $40 (which is probably about right) there too, > depending on how it is advertised and who is selling it. > > That's a wonderful album, keep it and chuck the CD, I say. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Monsieur records: contact info? nope Date: 05 Dec 2000 19:40:00 +0100 there's no contact info for monsieur records on the cover, nothing at all. it's a bootleg, that explains. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce Lenkei" Subject: (exotica) early xmas/recent finds Date: 06 Dec 2000 13:02:12 -0500 Found a copy of Other Worlds, Other Sounds yesterday in the recent arrival bin at one of the local record stores here in NY. Both the disk and the cover are in perfect shape. At 18 bucks it was a bit higher than I like to pay, but I figured the chances are slim to none that I'd ever see it again at any sort of reasonable price, so I grabbed it. I've seen it for sale at other stores in NY for $40-50 bucks, so It seemed like a good deal. It's my early xmas present to myself this year. Also found a copy of Denny's Exotic Percussion for the far more reasonable price of 7 bucks. Besides, I haven't found anything worth getting in about a month or two. -bruce ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design/Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ Visit The Exotica Review As many exotica/lounge record reviews as possible! on the web at: www.bway.net/~er ++++++++++++++++++++ _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Transistors : "Atelier" maxi Date: 06 Dec 2000 15:27:48 +0100 the Transistors maxi "Atelier" is actually not released yet, i just found out. it's going to be next year. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: (exotica) Hello, I'm a new subscriber. Date: 06 Dec 2000 21:28:19 Hello, I'm a new subscriber. I came to exotica (and ultimately, all the music I now listen to) via the 60's garage and psychedelic anthologies I collected as an adolescent in the 1980's. Thereupon started both present pattern of obsessive collecting, and my fascination with exotic/unusual sounds and music, though it would years before I stumbled into the weird in-between world of 50's/60's exotic listening. But once I did, it was an absolutely revelatory way of expanding my musical horizons (and record collection). The usual story, I guess. In retrospect, exotica seems only like a strange, but natural, extension of the 60's weirdness I'd dug in high school. Anyways, my internet searches for obscure record titles over the years have inevitably delivered me unto the exotica archives (which is THE best source of info for exotica), and I finally leapt up this morning and decided to join the mileau, or something. And am now preparing myself for the intense volley of verbal abuse I deserve for my run-on sentences. Please don't hurt me too bad. -Dan _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) United Future Organization Date: 06 Dec 2000 14:02:32 -0800 (PST) Are any other exoticats into this band? I have 4 cds by them and think all four are fantastic! I come to like UFO and acid jazz more and more over the years. I also love Night Trip, a various artists comp put together by a member of UFO. (for sale at http://dustygroove.com) Sonny & Cher's Beat Goes On is done by Buddy Rich and his 12 year old daughter who Buddy says is drunk! This is one fine groove of a song!! She vocalizes cool & reserved. And the Beat goes on, and the beat goes on....over and over, drilling the groove deep down. This comp is mixed from vinyl. One of UFO's album opens with the sci fi spoken words: "Do you believe in Flying Saucers" Where is this sampled from? Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Hello, I'm a new subscriber. Date: 06 Dec 2000 17:03:48 EST In a message dated 12/6/0 4:29:22 PM, daniel_shiman@hotmail.com wrote: >Hello, I'm a new subscriber.........Please don't hurt me too bad. this is a pretty painless way to get to know pretty unusual rekkids pretty well. I joined four (!) years ago and still stay on despite a few droughts and a couple of tiffs. You mentioned you read the archives. So you know that the list is sort of split between newer more beat-driven expressions of exotica musics and the "pure" exotica of yore. Its all good, so enjoy your stay and above all, don't be shy with your opinions. Certainly very few of us are!...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Hello, I'm a new subscriber. Date: 06 Dec 2000 21:53:03 -0500 At 09:28 PM 12/6/00, Daniel Shiman wrote: > >Hello, I'm a new subscriber. And am now preparing myself for the intense >volley of verbal abuse I deserve for my run-on sentences. Please don't hurt >me too bad. We're hungry for fresh blood so run on all you want as long as you ask us about records or bands or arrangers or producers thus allowing us to spout about things we haven't had the chance to spout about for a long time since we're all so jaded having collected this stuff for so many years. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Eden Ahbez - Eden's Island Date: 06 Dec 2000 19:58:14 -0800 >The grating male singer is Eden Ahbez. He wrote Nat King Coles "Nature >Boy" >and lived in the hills of Hollywood, eating nuts and berries. > >His is a fascinating story and I highly recommend hearing more of this >truly >amazing album before offically putting it on your shit list. Got a weird cool story about Eden Ahbez. My Grandmother was riding in my car with me a few months back so I thought I would throw on something, nice and easy so i threw on Eden Ahbez,when she enquired about who it was, I told her about him and a bit of his history, you know, livin' and eatin' berries behind the Hollywood H and all and she launched into a story about Eden whom she remembers meeting as a teenager (when she was 19 or so) in Palm Springs, which is where my grandmother grew up in the 40's, in a back yard of an rich banker. She said she and her friends would peek over the backyard fence to get a glimpse of "Nature Boy" as he was known as. she said she would sometimes see him around town, she said he wore a robe and had long hair, she doesnt remember a beard. She had no idea that he wrote the hit Nature Boy or that he was a song writer, she just thought he was some kook. My grams never ceases to amaze me, she also has great stories about Frank Sinatra, Bob Hope and tons about William Powell who was a friend of the family. Man sometimes I think I was born a few decades too late. I would have loved to see "Nature Boy", Damn. But im glad My Grandma still around to brighten my day with her memories. -jonny _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: (exotica) Schlagernacht! - Part 2 Date: 06 Dec 2000 22:56:09 -0500 Just watched the second installment of the German TV special Schlagernacht, this one the 70's. It seems I did correctly guess the increased opportunity for embarrassment it seems! Very different from the first part (the 60's) which had a certain innocence that you couldn't help but be impressed by. Still, there were a number of good things which I haven't been able to identify yet but after this there were a lot more names and faces that I can now place - in the list of "to be avoided" that is! The moderator, Berndt, had a great time with this one and you could see him getting in tune and dancing along with stars in superimposed frames. There were two (count 'em!) appearances by Heino to complete the picture. All in all highly irritaining and worth watching if you're of the right mindset... But I now understand why so much of this genre is panned so badly. I just shudder to think what the 80's brought! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) 78 RPM Manifesto Date: 06 Dec 2000 22:05:01 -0800 A while back, I posted here asking for tips on transferring 78s to CD. A couple of people asked me to share what I found out when I got it all researched. Here's my report... I'm interested in the acoustics of old recordings. I've been disappointed with the quality of reproduced sound lately. The CD reissues of old 78s that I buy sound lifeless and dull, and modern orchestral recordings don't sound like acoustic instruments. They're all buzzy and shiney sounding like a synthesizer, even if they are acoustic instruments. I always assumed that older music on CD sounded flat because of the "primitive technology" they apologize for on the disclaimer on the back of the jewel cases. But I was getting so disgusted with unreal digital sound, I figured how bad can an original 78 be in comparison? So I rigged up a transcription table (Dual 1218) with a correct cartridge and equalizer to my computer to see what results I could come up with. I was amazed at how much better my transfers sounded than the comparable commercial CD releases. There was a clarity, presence and amazingly well-defined bass that I hadn't heard in old music before. My experiments burning CDs of 78s led me to wonder what the old acoustic phonographs sounded like. I bought a Victrola that was in good condition and rebuilt the original "sound box" using a kit. The first record I tried after the rebuild was Caruso singing an aria from Martha. It knocked me on the floor. The sound literally EXPLODED out of the machine. It was like being in the room with him. Before this, all the acoustic recordings I had heard on CD sounded tiny and distant, buried under a sea of surface noise. I'm trying to figure out just what it is that makes those CDs of old material sound so lifeless. I did some experimenting with my CD burner ripping and burning the same song ten times over to see if generation loss was coloring the sound somehow. (It wasn't.) I tried making CDs of records and comparing them to the original. (They were the same). I couldn't find what was ruining the sound so completely until I started experimenting with those programs that are designed to "de-noise" and "restore" the sound of old records. I've come to the conclusion that these are the culprets. I've have some experience in video post-production, and I know how bad digital processing can be for TV signals. I'm finding the same sorts of gross distortion and manipulation in audio that I see in video. Whenever these "de-cracklers" are used, they throw out a good part of the signal along with the noise, and make the music sound like it's behind a wall, or playing a mile away. Using the processing sparingly only results in "sparing" deterioration of the sound. I'm convinced now that the only way to get really good sound is to start with a nice clean record, EQ it properly, carefully hand edit out any clicks and pops, and leave any groove noise or crackle alone. For the life of me, I don't know why commercial CD releases aren't done like that. They are going out of their way to make the sound bad. More and more, I'm becoming a technological luddite. Whenever a new recording technology comes out, it seems that it does so at the expense of a previous technology that did things better. I know for sure that LPs sound a lot better than CDs, and 78s sound great too. My theory is that the big companies behind new technologies have a vested interest in trashing the older one. They put out all sorts of propaganda and pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo to make the old technology look bad, even when the older technology had higher quality reproduction. I've seen it recently in home video with DVDs vs. the older laserdisc format and it happened with CDs and LPs too. The only progress I've seen in sound reproduction since the introduction of stereo is compactness and convenience of the storage medium and machines. Sound reproduction hasn't noticeable improved at all. I sometimes wonder if CD companies don't deliberately make old stuff sound bad to discourage people from buying it over new stuff that they have more of a financial interest in. Given the dull sound of 78rpm era recordings on CD, I wouldn't doubt it. It's common in any collecting hobby to complain about crazy prices paid for stuff, but I can't see any reason to complain in collecting phonographs. The machines themselves are quite reasonably priced considering the age and quality of workmanship. The most amazing bargain is the records themselves though. I've been scooping up batches of records from the twenties through the fifties at ebay for fifty cents to a dollar apiece. It's turned out to be a gold mine of music that has never been released on LP or CD. Whenever I bought a CD collection of old music, half of it would be stuff I already had. Now, I'm getting batches of hundreds of 78s where every song is new to me. My main areas of interest musically are Polka, Accordion and Organ music, Country, Western Swing, Pop Vocals, Small Band Swing, Opera, Classical Novelty and 20's Dance Bands. It seems that my tastes are pretty well suited to what's readilly and cheaply available. The early blues and proto rock n' roll 78s that don't really interest me seem to be what fetch the high prices. This allows me to be able to afford to grab big hunks of music and sift through looking for the gems. Doing that with CDs would cost a fortune. In the exotica/lounge area, I've found great Les Baxter sides, Lenny Dee, Three Suns, Raymond Scott, and a pile of great lounge singers. The interesting thing is, the versions of the songs is usually different than the LP version. Every time a new technology like HiFi or Stereo came out, they trotted the artists back in the studios to make a new version. The CD collections usually include only the newest of these. I'm in trouble now, because I've got several THOUSAND 78's in cartons all over the place! I've been plowing through them cleaning them, putting them in fresh sleeves, transferring them to CD and packing them away, keeping a handful to play on my Victrola. But I haven't figured out what to do with the ones I'm finished with. They aren't worth anything... certainly not enough to go to all the trouble of trying to list them at ebay or send out for sale lists. I'm grouping them by style of music in boxes, and hopefully I'll find another collector in the same boat to swap them with. I just want to feed my obsession with hearing as much old music as I can. I'd be interested in finding other collectors who are doing what I am doing to trade CDs with. I'd be interested to find out their particular techniques for getting the best transfer, and to discover new areas of music I haven't been exposed to. Is anyone else out there in Exoticaland as in love with 78 revolutions per minute as I am? See ya Steve -- Visit Spumco's Wonderful World of Cartoons: http://www.spumco.com alt.animation.spumco -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Learn about animation art (without going BROKE!) Vintage Ink & Paint http://www.vintageip.com Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) N'Sync, score, sohail again Date: 07 Dec 2000 10:17:23 -0000 Did anybody see a piece of news (in the Guardian yesterday) about Sid and Marty Krofft, creators of HR Pufnstuf suing N'Sync after they made 25 foot mannequins of the band and then saw them used as promotional material without their permission. Sid and Marty want 10% of the profits of programme sales. Weird - And what the hell is HR Pufnstuf?? And I scored a record! My record buying is definitely waning with a new and improved lower salary (better job, I keep telling myself) and very little turning up for sale. I also keep missing things on Ebay because the auctions always seem to finish at 4.00am UK time and some fucker always bids at the last minute. Anyway, I got the Billion Dollar Brain soundtrack which is Lalo-like but without any drums. Pretty cool, very soundtracky but not great. On its way is Return of the Incredible Bongo Band, Abrax vol 1 & 2 (some French groovy thing apparently) and Max et les Ferraileurs on CD because it was only a few dollars. About once a year I suddenly get the urge to find that Sohail Rana LP and I know I've asked before and found the answer but who has a copy? Brian is it you? Charlie Editor C3 Magazine 3 St Peter's Street London N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 (direct) +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 (switchboard) Fax: +44 (0) 207 226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leslie gilotti Subject: Re: (exotica) United Future Organization Date: 07 Dec 2000 10:45:11 +0000 >Are any other exoticats into this band? Love 'em! Was it they who did that Brownswood comp - can't recall the name and I've lost the cover - but it had this excellent Jazz Brothers tune on it. The lyrics are just "Bow-wow, bow-wow, bow-wow-wow-wow" over this fantastic sort of mambo beat. Ah, it's too early for me... leslie -- ---------------+ leslie ----[ work ]---+ www.playlouder.com ----[ play ]---+ www.thatdarncat.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Schlagernacht! - Part 2 Date: 07 Dec 2000 13:04:49 +0100 Brian Karasick schrieb: > All in all highly irritaining and worth watching if you're of the right > mindset... But I now understand why so much of this genre is panned so > badly. I just shudder to think what the 80's brought! The term "irritainment" says it all. What the 80s brought? Well, at the end of the 70s Schlager was in its absolute historical down. I estimate, my own obscure combo Der Plan sold more records in 1980 than former superstars like Roy Black or Peter Alexander. However in the end the German New Wave triggered a Schlager revival, but that genre never recovered to its former creative uniqueness. The new genre that sort of monopolized the use of the German language in pop music was to become Hip Hop, believe it or not. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Gentle Waves Date: 07 Dec 2000 07:30:15 -0800 (PST) Rob you nailed my taste well. I was just talking on the phone with a dj about the Gentle Waves. I really like their newest album and their new ep. I would love to catch them live and I can't believe they played "The Beat Goes On" Buud y Rich version.. Maybe they have been listening to Night Trip also. You described them well! I think they share something in common with Bertrand Burgulat's sound. Any this Dj was saying she doesn't understand why boomers and punkers don't like modern soft pop. She traced this music back to Nick Drake. I see the Velvet Underground as the main influence though I believe soft pop began with the Fleetwoods thanks to a discussion with Jamie(are you still on this list?) Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Robert McKenna wrote: > Funnily enough I went to see 'the gentle waves' a Belle & > Sebastian spin off band the other week (hell it was free, i was free..), they finished with a cover of this (i was mildly irritained by her girly voice but as their version was based on the Buddy Rich one it was appropriate) and I was thinking that quite a few people on the list, particularly you Chuck, could > be in to them. Semi orchestral easy pop, breathy girl vocals, > lightly jazz based, vibes, quite French sounding melodies in the better songs. rob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Schlagernacht! - Part 2 Date: 07 Dec 2000 12:10:08 -0500 If you wish to get in the visual Schlager groove, go here: http://online.prevezanos.com/schlager/index.html?34,36 I like the picture of "Les Chakachas" (NOT the Jungle Fever outfit!) so much, it's been the wallpaper on my computer for a year. http://online.prevezanos.com/schlager/twist.shtml For titles, you cannot beat "Ein Cow-Cow-Cow-Cow-Cow-Boy" by the Cherry Cats (Cherry Cats?) Oodley Pop-A-Cow-Cow-Cow-Cow.... Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Gentle Waves Date: 07 Dec 2000 14:15:40 -0500 At 07:30 AM 12/7/00 -0800, chuck wrote: > >Any this Dj was saying she doesn't understand why boomers and >punkers don't like modern soft pop. She traced this music back to >Nick Drake. Hah! Pardon me but I just had to scoff when I read a Dj - of all folks -tracing ANYTHING back to Nick Drake. That really is hilarious on so many levels. (I'm not attacking the messenger here Chuck, so please don't take offense.) I'm not going to say that none of the modern softpoppers were influenced by Nick Drake, even though I suspect that most people only heard him through CD reissues twenty years after the fact. But to trace a whole musical movement- or minimovement - back to him... PUH-LEEZE! Where would I, the scoffer, trace it back to? I wouldn't. But if I had to, I'd have to know how far back you want to go. The Andrews Sisters? The Mills Brothers? Bing Crosby? Or more recent? The Everly Brothers? You say the Velvet Underground. Someone else says the Fleetwoods. Do I hear the Beatles? Who influenced them? All ideas are worthy and now that I've calmed down, I can even hear Nick Drake in there but still, this DJ must have been twelve years old to be tracing it all the way back to Nick Drake... AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) 78 RPM Manifesto Date: 07 Dec 2000 17:47:16 -0500 Stephen wrote: >My experiments burning CDs of 78s led me to wonder what the old >acoustic phonographs sounded like. I bought a Victrola that was in >good condition and rebuilt the original "sound box" using a kit. >The first record I tried after the rebuild was Caruso singing >an aria from Martha. It knocked me on the floor. The sound >literally EXPLODED out of the machine. If you've never had the experience of hearing a Victrola in person, it's worth going out of your way if you ever get the opportunity. The most startling thing is that it can be really LOUD! (Keep in mind this is completely mechanical/acoustic amplification, with no electricity involved.) But I have to give a slightly different interpretation of the whole idea that LPs and 78s sound better than CDs due to some fatal flaw in digital technology. When you listen to a recording through the horn of a Victrola, the response of the total record/play system is really peaky, and it covers a much narrower range of frequencies than modern recording technology. This is, in some technical sense, a distortion or coloration of the sound. However in the 78 era, this shaping of the sound was refined though trial and error until it evolved to a point where it was pleasant-sounding and musical--and was particularly favorable to certain tonal ranges including the range of the human voice. You could make an analogy and say the resonating wood body of a cello is in some sense distorting the "true" vibration of the strings--but it sure sounds nice. The fact that the high treble information is severely rolled off playing through a Victrola just serves to bring the voice and other lead instruments more into the foreground. With 50s/60s LPs there are still certain effects that come from the soft-saturation character of tube recording equipment, and from the inter-channel modulation in a stereo cartridge. And although the frequency response is wider than 78s there is still some roll-off of the highest and lowest frequencies. Still the system is particularly well optimized for the tonal ranges that are most important in music. In contrast, CDs have essentially zero distortion and perfect channel separation, and a frequency response which stays flat nearly to 20 kHz. So the reproduction is in some sense more accurate--although perhaps it may be "characterless" compared to older technology. The extra high frequencies do not ordinarily contain much pitched, harmonic musical sound, but instead more noiselike sounds like string scraping, singer spittle etc. To some extent these lend clarity and definition to the sound, but they can also become harsh and fatiguing. So it's a little like a photograph of someone where every pore and hair is in sharp focus--which is not necessarily the most flattering view of them, or the view that captures your emotional response towards them. However if you transfer an old recording to CD, in principle it should be possible to preserve all the colorations of the original that gave it character. To make another analogy, we all know that footage shot on video has a much harsher look than using silver-based film; however once something is put on film, that can be transferred to video while keeping its "filmlike" tonal character nearly intact. I'm not saying this will always be easy in practice! In the case of the Victrola, it may be necessary to go into an acoustically dead space and make a live recording, miking throat of the horn, in order to preserve all the unique signatures of that sound. >I couldn't find >what was ruining the sound so completely until I started >experimenting with those programs that are designed >to "de-noise" and "restore" the sound Interesting to hear your experiences--I've never trusted that stuff myself. Even using my full human brainpower, it's often a challenge to remove clicks manually without creating a thump or an audible dropout; how could software do it? Thanks for some interesting observations, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Dominic Frontiere Date: 07 Dec 2000 19:11:00 EST In a message dated 12/7/00 2:19:40 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Brian Phillips writes: << Are there other interesting Frontieres to seek out? >> Pagan Festival is Dominic Frontiere's only exotic-sounding record that I'm aware of. He also did a the Spaghetti western soundtrack "Hang 'Em High" (1968?) which is good but very close in sound to Morricone. Frontiere is also an accordion virtuoso who made a decent accordion LP called Mr. Accordion (if that's your cup of tea). He also recorded a group of 20 accordions called "The Mighty Accordion Band". This record has an accordion-playing gorilla on the cover. It's really pretty awesome to hear 20 accordions all cooking to Caravan and other standards. Frontiere also composed TV and film music including the music to the original Outer Limits TV show. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) new releases Date: 07 Dec 2000 19:21:23 EST Intrada (www.intrada.com) announced the release of these and some other interesting soundtracks this week: WARREN BARKER 77 Sunset Strip WEA 247762 (Germany) 19.99 QUINCY JONES The Italian Job MCA 112488 (UK) 27.99 The Italian Job is steep at $27.99, but don't expect to see a used vinyl copy for less. It won't happen. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) exotica Welcome Date: 07 Dec 2000 18:19:49 -0600 Welcome Dan...it's a wild ride here. Colleenintexas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Thanks for the Replies Date: 08 Dec 2000 00:26:46 EST Thanks to everyone who responded to my quest for knowledge about CD burners. I've ordered an 8x QPS and am very excited about it. Thanks a lot! Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re:united future organization Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:22:55 +0800 DQoNCiBpIGxvdmUgdW5pdGVkIGZ1dHVyZSBvcmdhbml6YXRpb24hIHRob3VnaCwgaSBndWVzcyB0 aGF0IHNob3VsZCBjb21lIGFzIG5vIHN1cnByaXNlIHRvIHNvbWUgb24gdGhlIGxpc3QuaSB0aGlu ayBpIGhhdmUgYWxsIHRoZWlyIGZ1bGwgbGVuZ3RoIHJlbGVhc2VzIGV4Y2VwdCBmb3IgdGhlIGJv biB2b3lhZ2UgcmVtaXhlcy5hbmQgdGhlIGQuai4gbWl4ZXMuIGkgaGF2ZSBzb21lIG9mIHRoZWly IHNpbmdsZXMgYXMgd2VsbC5pIHRoaW5rIHRoZXkgYXJlIGdyZWF0LmFuZCB0aGV5IHVzZSBncmVh dCBzYW1wbGVzISBydXNzIG1leWVyLCBrZW4gbm9yZGluZSwgcXVpbmNleSBqb25lcywgYW1vbmcg b3RoZXJzLnRoZWlyIGNkcyBjb21lIHVwIG9uIGViYXkgcXVpdGUgZnJlcXVlbnRseSBmb3IgY2hl YXAuIChpJ20gYWN0dWFsbHkgc2VsbGluZyBhIGNkIHNpbmdsZSB1cCB0aGVyZSBub3cgZm9yIHRo b3NlIHRoYXQgY2FyZSBhYm91dCBzdWNoIHRoaW5ncykuZm9yIHRob3NlIHdobyBsaWtlIHUuZi5v LiBpIHdvdWxkIGFsc28gcmVjY29tZW5kIGNoZWNraW5nIG91dCAidGhpcyBpcyBob3cgaSBmZWVs IGFib3V0IGphenoiIGJ5IGl3YW11cmEgbWFuYWJ1IG9uIHRoZSByZWFkeW1hZGUgcmVjb3JkcyBs YWJlbC4gbm90IGV4YWN0bHkgdGhlIHNhbWUgYXMgdS5mLm8uIGJ1dCB2ZXJ5IGNvb2wgc3RpbGwu IHNvbWV3aGVyZSBiZXR3ZWVuIHVuaXRlZCBmdXR1cmUgb3JnYW5pemF0aW9uIGFuZCB0aGF0IGZp cnN0IGRpbWl0cnkgZnJvbSBwYXJpcyBkaXNjLiAgDQoNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIHdpbGxpYW0gaW4g dGFpcGVpLg0KDQpwcy4gYXMgc29tZSBvZiB5b3Uga25vdyBteSBtZXNzYWdlcyB0byB0aGUgbGlz dCBzZWVtIHRvIGJlIHN1cmZhY2luZyBvbiB0aGUgZGlnZXN0cyBhcyBnaWJiZXJpc2guIGknbSBu b3QgZXZlbiBzdXJlIGlmIHRoaXMgbWVzc2FnZSB3aWxsIGJlIHJlYWRhYmxlPyBhbnlvbmUgaGF2 ZSBhbnkgaWRlYSB3aHkgdGhpcyBpcz8gdGhlIGNvbXB1dGVycyBoZXJlIGhhdmUgYmVlbiB1cGRh dGVkIHRvIGVpdGhlciBvZmZpY2UgMjAwMCBvciB3aW5kb3dzIDIwMDAgaSBmb3JnZXQgd2hhdCBp dCBpcy4gdGhlIG90aGVyIGxpc3RzIGknbSBvbiBoYXZlbid0IHNlZW1lZCB0byBoYXZlIHRoaXMg cHJvYmxlbXMgYnV0IHdpdGggZXhvdGljYS4uLjooDQoNCg0KDQo+QXJlIGFueSBvdGhlciBleG90 aWNhdHMgaW50byB0aGlzIGJhbmQ/DQo+DQpJPiBoYXZlIDQgY2RzIGJ5IHRoZW0gYW5kIHRoaW5r IGFsbCBmb3VyIGFyZSBmYW50YXN0aWMhICBJIGNvbWUgdG8NCj5saWtlIFVGTyBhbmQgYWNpZCBq YXp6IG1vcmUgYW5kIG1vcmUgb3ZlciB0aGUgeWVhcnMuDQo+DQo+SSBhbHNvIGxvdmUgTmlnaHQg VHJpcCwgYSB2YXJpb3VzIGFydGlzdHMgY29tcCBwdXQgdG9nZXRoZXIgYnkgYQ0KPm1lbWJlciBv ZiBVRk8uIChmb3Igc2FsZSBhdCBodHRwOi8vZHVzdHlncm9vdmUuY29tKSAgU29ubnkgJiBDaGVy J3MNCj5CZWF0IEdvZXMgT24gaXMgZG9uZSBieSBCdWRkeSBSaWNoIGFuZCBoaXMgMTIgeWVhciBv bGQgZGF1Z2h0ZXIgd2hvDQo+QnVkZHkgc2F5cyBpcyBkcnVuayEgIFRoaXMgaXMgb25lIGZpbmUg Z3Jvb3ZlIG9mIGEgc29uZyEhICBTaGUNCj52b2NhbGl6ZXMgY29vbCAmIHJlc2VydmVkLiBBbmQg dGhlIEJlYXQgZ29lcyBvbiwgYW5kIHRoZSBiZWF0IGdvZXMNCj5vbi4uLi5vdmVyIGFuZCBvdmVy LCAgIGRyaWxsaW5nIHRoZSBncm9vdmUgZGVlcCBkb3duLiAgVGhpcyBjb21wIGlzDQo+bWl4ZWQg ZnJvbSB2aW55bC4gDQo+DQo+T25lIG9mIFVGTydzIGFsYnVtIG9wZW5zIHdpdGggdGhlIHNjaSBm aSBzcG9rZW4gd29yZHM6ICAiRG8geW91DQo+YmVsaWV2ZSBpbiBGbHlpbmcgU2F1Y2VycyIgIFdo ZXJlIGlzIHRoaXMgc2FtcGxlZCBmcm9tPw0KPg0KPkVhc3kgbGlzdGVuaW5nIGluIHRoZSBCaWcg RWFzeQ0KPkNodWNrICAg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) Crippled Dick Hot Wax! LIVE n' NASTY! Date: 07 Dec 2000 23:33:59 -0700 terribly late notice! DJ Toner from the Crippled Dick Hot Wax! label will DJ and interview live on air: 4-6pm pacific time friday the 8th on http://www.dublab.com In related news DJ Toner will be spinning in person: CRIPPLED JET-SEX PARTY IN L.A. THIS SATURDAY DEC. 9TH, 2000 SPACELAND 10 pm $5 1717 Silver Lake Blvd. Los Angeles, CA DJ TONER SEKSU ROBA THE RAYMAKERS ANUBIAN LIGHTS Toni Schifer, the man who runs the Crippled Dick Hot Wax! label which just released the new Seksu Roba album is DJ Toner (all the way from Germany even). CDHW! is most famous for releasing the "Vampyros Lesbos" compilation of sleaze-a-delic 60's euro trash soundtrack music (but you all knew that). Seksu Roba creates "electro future porn lounge music for the 21st century" and includes a thereminist (who can play notes) and a robot. The Ray Makers are spacey funky good old fashioned electronic fun! And the Anubian Lights lay down exotic groovy beats non stop! (and will be releasing an album on CDHW! next year) Lots of scantily clad dancing ladies, visual candy, candy, films, robots, and music that will make you dance and sweat! --------------------- i been gone a long time. part accident/part not. anyway, back to lurk mode. sorry for the self-promotion. kevin leeeeee _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) new releases Date: 08 Dec 2000 13:06:05 I have a vinyl reissue of the Italian Job bought in the last couple of years and I'm pretty sure that I didn't pay over the odds for it. Want me to check cat. no. etc.? I'm pretty sure I bought it in a mainstream shop, which is quite unusual, so it shouldn't be a bootleg. Rob _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Berlin Booksigning Date: 08 Dec 2000 15:49:50 +0100 I doubt that there are any list members from Berlin, but who cares: Anyway, Sven A. Kirsten asked me to announce a book signing of his "Book Of Tiki" in this new bookshop on sunday the 10th of december at 16.00 o'clock. It's Rock-a-Tiki, Danziger Strasse 3, Berlin - Prenzlauer Berg. Exotic sound and taste sensations by Gordon W. Thanks for your attention and mahalo tiki aficionados Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) 78 RPM Manifesto Date: 08 Dec 2000 15:49:44 +0100 I tried to make tape copies from old shellack 78s that my grandparents had brought from china in the 20s and since at some points the shellack sort of looked broken I took a closer look. And to my surprise I discovered that these records under the surface were really made of wood! I had no idea. Do all shellacks have a nucleus of wood? The main problem of transferring it was that the grooves were cut at an incredibly low volume level, so even when I turned the recorder volume level to the max it still wasn't enough to reach 0 db, so I had to do a copy of that copy in the end. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Up With People Date: 08 Dec 2000 10:09:36 -0500 Curtain Closing on Up With People By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 6:38 a.m. ET BROOMFIELD, Colo. (AP) -- The curtain is closing for Up With People, but many cast members who toured the world to spread the group's musical message of peace and understanding remained hopeful it would someday rise from financial collapse. The nonprofit organization decided on Wednesday to shut down because of its $7.3 million debt. It lost $3.2 million in the fiscal year that ended in June and $860,000 in the previous year, when it was forced to dip into its endowment. ``This is one of the steps you have to take to make it to the next generation,'' said Scott Nelson of Denver, who toured with the group in Australia and New Zealand in 1985. The organization, which left open the possibility of a reorganization, will lay off its 262 employees in 10 offices around the world and sell its main building north of Denver. Nelson said Up With People was born out of a dream and not a business plan. He said part of the group's recent trouble might have been trying to appeal to too many types and ages of people. Up With People was founded in 1965 by Blanton and Betty Belk of Tucson, Ariz., who challenged a group of college students to find an upbeat message amid student unrest, the Vietnam War and racial strife. Up With People picked 700 young people each year to perform in a half-dozen different troupes that travel to a total of 20 countries. Each cast member paid $14,300. Troupes performed in junior high gymnasiums, carpet-covered ice rinks and European concert halls. They appeared before the pope, during Super Bowl halftime shows and at high football games. ``That's where our magic happened, in those small communities,'' said Tim Schuetz of Denver, who toured with the group in 1992. ``It's closing its doors at this point, but the legacy of the 20,000 alumni and hundreds of thousands of host families will live on,'' Nelson said. http://www.upwithpeople.org/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) More on CD vs. vinyl Date: 08 Dec 2000 10:44:02 -0500 I wanted to make one more point to defend the CD: A while back I transferred an obscure Martin Denny LP into my computer, and because the disk was in pristine shape I decided to go for broke and attempt to remove every single click and pop I could hear (manually drawing over the glitches in my sound editor program). This involved literally hours of time per track listening to the sound in obsessive detail. From previous experiences I was familiar with all the ills that vinyl can be prone to: Low frequency "whumping" sounds on each revolution, breakup on the high notes, off-center hole causing noticeable wow, etc. etc. Fortunately this LP was fine in those respects, and on casual listening you would have said that it barely had any clicks, either. However I would listen to 10-second chunks over and over again through headphones, and gradually, subliminally, I would realize that there sometimes would be a place where one side of my brain would flinch slightly--even though there was nothing overtly audible. Then zooming in to the highest magnification, I would discover some absolutely tiny little spike sticking out of the waveform. Once I drew over that glitch and listened again, it was rather amazing to me how much the sound seemed to have more of an "ease" and openness to it. Up to that point I would not have considered myself particularly ideological on the vinyl vs. CD question. But after that, I really became convinced that the absence of surface noise on a CD is something that people too often take for granted. It really does make a difference. cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) 78 RPM Manifesto Date: 08 Dec 2000 12:36:12 -0500 At 03:49 PM 12/8/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > >. Do all shellacks have a nucleus of wood? No. >The main problem of transferring it was that the grooves were cut at an >incredibly low volume level, so even when I turned the recorder volume >level to the max it still wasn't enough to reach 0 db, so I had to do a >copy of that copy in the end. I don't believe the grooves were cut at a low volume level. A record from the 1920's is an acoustic record and therefore not made to be played on an electric machine or anything resembling your turntable. I'm not the expert on this. Everything I know on the subject comes from having interviewed the actual experts. But I know that people who regularly try to record 78's will for instance, have anywhere from a dozen to a hundred different needles, all with slight variations in width, in order to get the best possible sound from the various records they come across. To some degree I'm parroting Stephen's more researched post the other day but I have heard 78's absolutely come alive when played on the machines they were meant to be played on. The acoustic ones sound better on acoustic machines. And the electric on electric machines. And the electric ones sound better on the kind of - pre stereo - "record player" I had as a teenager than they do on your average stereo turntable UNLESS it's been overhauled specifically to play 78's. And even then, the crappy old tonearm and the flipover needle can make an old 78 sound great. And one more thing. Most of the 78's you find will be electric, not acoustic. Anyone want a bunch of 78's, I'm giving them away to a good home when I figure out how to send them. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dominic Frontiere Date: 08 Dec 2000 13:01:49 -0500 At 07:11 PM 12/7/00 EST, Pearmania@aol.com wrote: > ><< Are there other interesting Frontieres to seek out? >> > >Pagan Festival is Dominic Frontiere's only exotic-sounding record that I'm >aware of. He also did a the Spaghetti western soundtrack "Hang 'Em High" >(1968?) which is good but very close in sound to Morricone. Seek out this: "Love Eyes, The moods of Romance". It's a bit like that "Emotions" record by Richard Shore, if you're familiar with that (or even if you aren't.) They're both very early versions of the now familiar "music for films that weren't actually made" genre. And I recommend them both. Emotions is a bit more consistent and more overtly "powerful". Love Eyes is more eclectic. But it has the cooler cuts, even stuff that you'd have to call "crime jazz". In fact I've often used the cut "Sultry" in crime jazz compilations. And there's also the cut called "Beatnick". If I had absolutely clean copies of these, they'd make a great CDR two-fer. (Like I need another reason to be making CDR's. And by the way, the first round of "The CDR project" is almost finished. And with it, well over a thousand records have gone or are on their way out....) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Monsieur records: no contact info Date: 07 Dec 2000 19:08:20 +0100 who sold me "wowsville" sez: "i dont have any contact info. i get the lps from one of my distributors. so far only wildsville and wowsville have been relased. if any body wants the lps - send them to me or/and to my site" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Xmas cheer for sale Date: 08 Dec 2000 11:26:06 -0800 Hey folks, The prodigal exoticat has slunk back from his pigeonhole in Squaresville to help a friend and turn y'all on to a trading opportunity. My pal Don Vigeant has packaged-up a beautiful 2-CD compilation of funky-azz Christmas flotsam. It has little proper "Exotica" content, but I know there will be some here that will find it amusing. I can't get the Billy Squier xmas tune out of my head. (Yikes.) The Banjo version of Good King Winceslas (sp?) is a fave of mine, too. Don't let that scare ya, there's something there for everybody. He'd like to trade with interested parties. Playlist and artwork preview here: http://www.raygun-equipt.com/yuletidic/xmascd.html But while we are on the subject of my talented friend, let me suggest you take a moment and peruse his collection of self-produced concert-posters. Man or Astroman, Servotron, Groovie Ghoulies, Space Cossacks, Dick Dale and many more. It's worth a look, even though the site is not quite complete, the images are all there for your enjoyment. He prints them in limited quantities, and even sells a few on EBAY, but he has extras and may be willing to trade for these too. index of images: http://www.raygun-equipt.com/foundry Home page: http://www.raygun-equipt.com Enjoy, Tell him ol' Ron what's-his-name sent ya. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) Dominic Frontiere / Hammersmith is Out Date: 08 Dec 2000 19:27:14 -0000 ><< Are there other interesting Frontieres to seek out? >> > "Hammersmith Is Out" OST from around 1973 has some very 'Sound Gallery'-esque tracks on it, all by Frontiere. "Kiddo" is a fantastic cut. I'd love to see the movie as it's sort of a 70's take on "Dr. Faustus" with Richard Burton as some sort of Lucifer character and Liz Taylor as a cocktail waitress. If I remember correctly, the back of the record shows some girls playing the drums for a band called "The Tits". You can't beat that. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) new releases Date: 08 Dec 2000 14:46:32 EST The CD version is an offical release from Island Records. I have no idea if they are doing vinyl. There has indeed been a bootleg floating around over the last few months. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) new releases Date: 08 Dec 2000 17:36:15 EST In a message dated 12/8/00 2:46:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Ashleywarren1 writes: << The CD version is an offical release from Island Records. I have no idea if they are doing vinyl. There has indeed been a bootleg floating around over the last few months. Ashley >> There was a French LP release of "The Italian Job" that Dustygroove had about a year ago. I bought a copy from them but it was defective. Dustygroove told me that the whole batch was the same way and concluded that it was a bad pressing. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) 78 RPM Manifesto Date: 09 Dec 2000 16:32:09 +0100 alan zweig wrote: > I don't believe the grooves were cut at a low volume level. believing is not knowing. so how would you call it, when you turn the recording volume level to the peak and all you get from the record is some -20 dB? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) More on CD vs. vinyl Date: 09 Dec 2000 09:24:09 -0800 Ross Orr wrote: > Up to that point I would not have considered myself particularly > ideological on the vinyl vs. CD question. But after that, I really > became convinced that the absence of surface noise on a CD is > something that people too often take for granted. It really does make > a difference. halleluja brother! The form factor for an LP, in terms of size, does have an attractive advantage in some respects. OTOH - I've seen some very nice CD booklets which could hardly be represented as nicely within the context of an LP. -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) Grace your stereo pit with this! Date: 09 Dec 2000 10:41:29 -0700 Mimi Mayer wrote: > > And you can say with pride, "I made it myself!" Turn an unplayable LP into > a stylin' wall clock. Here's how: > http://homecraft.chickclick.com/articles/10469.html > Anyone have good ideas for transforming nasty records or ruined CDs into > other desirable objects? Extra points for recreating spools of broken audio > tapes as something else. A friend made me a Christmas wreath (with flashing lights!) out of an old T-Tel record. There's a picture on my website: http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/Welcome.htm Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 09 Dec 2000 13:56:17 -0600 This week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast serves up everything from steamy exotica to outer space easy listening music. You'll hear jungle jazz by Les Baxter, Sabu (from the classic "Sorcery!") and Robert Drasnin; sounds for spies and private eyes by The Capes and Masks, Ray Martin, Arling and Cameron and Dick Hyman ("The Man from O.R.G.A.N."); Attilio Mineo's "Man in Space with Sounds"; plus tunes from Nicola Conte, Les Maledictus Sound, Mel Henke, Ethel Azama, Peter Thomas, John Buzon, Cal Tjader and more. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour anytime, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Or tune in for the live stereo webcast tonight (Saturday) at 7:00pm Central USA time at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/realaudio/index.htm As always, your comments, requests and queries welcome. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, December 10 Date: 09 Dec 2000 18:34:35 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #121 Re-Mix It Up This week, we're playing lots of interesting remixes - hot music for a cold winter afternoon. Checkov: Turntable Soulkicks (Stereo de Luxe remix) "Drifting 12" " (thanks, Kassi!) Erobique meets Jonny Teupen: Hold Me, I've Got To Leave You "Mojo Club: The Remix Album" Chriss Joss & His Orchestra: Bombay By Bus (The Manix Remix) "The New Testament Of Funk 2000" Freddy Fresh meets Mary Lou Williams: Praise The Lord "Mojo Club: The Remix Album" Coldcut: More Beats And Pieces (Daddy Rips It Up Mix) "FSUK 1" Moog Cookbook: Piffy Rock "Psyche Rock Sessions" Truby Trio: A Go Go (Boozoo Bajou Mix) "A Go Go" Resident Filters: Get On It (Krafty Kuts Latin Funk Mix) "All Systems Are Go Go" Rockers Hi-Fi meet Ella Fitzgerald: Sunshine Of Your Love "Mojo Club: The Remix Album" Stereo de Luxe: Initials BB Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Monsieur records Date: 10 Dec 2000 02:10:02 EST In a message dated 12/8/00 10:05:02 AM, quiet@village.uunet.be writes: << ...so far only wildsville and wowsville have been released. >> Actually, I saw another one called Weirdsville at amoeba records in berkeley... haven't picked any of them up yet, though. They do look like my kinda stuff. -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Record Cover Gallery (was Grace your stereo pit with this!) Date: 10 Dec 2000 06:40:54 -0800 (PST) kendoll@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > A friend made me a Christmas wreath (with flashing lights!) out > of an > old T-Tel record. There's a picture on my website: > http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/Welcome.htm > Mike, Very nice. I noticed you have a LP cover gallery. Someone here on the list was asking me is I knew of any web sites like yours that have pictures of LP covers. Anybody here have a web page of links? Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html(On Real Audio) HEY Check This Out! Get Your Free Domain Name @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: (exotica) Saving a Warped Record Date: 10 Dec 2000 11:16:49 -0500 Can't I just stick it in the oven on a cookie sheet at a low temperature to flatten it out? Didn't I read that somewhere? Anyone? Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) I don't remember this being posted Date: 10 Dec 2000 12:32:29 -0500 Maybe my memory is faulty but I don't remember any of our members posting this article they wrote about exotica.... http://ookworld.com/persistexotica.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) sunday surfing day Date: 10 Dec 2000 12:54:44 -0500 Okay so that last post was about a three-year old article. But this page is "current" It's my day to surf the web and clean up my bookmarks. Found this, for people into buying tiki stuff: http://www.trashdaddy.com/tiki/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obit] Hoyt Curtin Date: 10 Dec 2000 15:08:17 -0500 Hoyt Curtin LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Composer Hoyt Curtin, who wrote the music for cartoon theme songs such as the Flintstones, the Jetsons, and Scooby-Doo, died Dec. 3. He was 78. Curtin died after a lengthy illness, according to his son, Chris Curtin. Hoyt Curtin began his career at Hanna-Barbera in 1957 after a stint writing advertising jingles. As the music director for Hanna-Barbera, he wrote the score for countless cartoon shows, including Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear and Johnny Quest. His most enduring creation was the theme to the Flintstones, which Curtin said he wrote in a panic in 1960 because the show was behind schedule. http://www.writemusic.com/index2.htm http://www.classicjq.com/info/HoytCurtinInterview.shtml http://www.padaweb.org/curtinls.html http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?p=avg&sql=B86426 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) I don't remember this being posted Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:06:13 EST In a message dated 12/10/0 12:32:39 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >Maybe my memory is faulty but I don't remember any of our members posting >this article they wrote about exotica.... Maybe m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) I don't remember this being posted Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:49:29 -0500 >Maybe my memory is faulty but I don't remember any of our members posting >this article they wrote about exotica.... > >http://ookworld.com/persistexotica.html Hah! Seems like a long, long time since I wrote that (originally posted in April or May '97, made some corrections in July '97). I'd be afraid to reread it now. Funny thing is, that's how/when I wound up on this list. After writing it, I was picking out "related" links for the bottom of the page and found the list's homepage in Vik's links. Checked it out, subscribed and been caught in this den of vice ever since. Remember when Vik's Lounge was a live site? Those were the days... m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) The Umbrellas of Cherbourg airing Date: 10 Dec 2000 18:10:05 -0500 "The Umbrellas of Cherbourg" (1964) airs on TCM, late Friday night at 2:00am (eastern). m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) CD cover scans needed Date: 10 Dec 2000 19:23:04 EST Does anyone have the front/back covers of the following CDs they'd be able to e-mail scans to me? Any help would be appreciated; searches on Internet cover archives have proven useless. * Get Carter soundtrack * Los Amigos Invisibles "Arepa 3000" * Cinnamon "The Many Moods of..." * Orange Cake Mix "Fluffy Pillow" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: Subject: (exotica) The Umbrellas of Cherbourg airing Date: 10 Dec 2000 19:20:49 -0800 After seeing m.ace's post I popped in my Umbrella's DVD, found a scene with Deneuve and watched mesmerized by the eye and ear candy for 20 minutes before realizing that the subtitles weren't turned on. Didn't need em, got misty eyed anyway from the music and acting. And the colors, pink, lavender, orange, aqua, lime green - just like the clothes they wore on Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. DVD players are gonna be under a lot of Christmas trees this year. If you are finally taking the new format plunge or are already there, put the Umbrellas DVD into the stocking of someone you love. Give that annoying relative a copy of Herzog's "Even Dwarfs Started Small," and make a New Year's Resolution to explore the wild world of Hong Kong movies. Director Wong Kar-Wei has had a few mentions here lately, but I prefer the frenetic Tsui Hark and the fantasy/ghost/erotic/martial arts type movies, with wonderful traditional chinese music that I hereby christen "Lutes, Flutes and Birthday Suits." Oh, and may Santa put the DVD of "Sex and Zen" in YOUR stocking, the funniest damn movie i have seen since,ummm, the first-run release of John Waters' "Polyester." JB aka Elvis Tsui Kam Kong # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) 78rpm records Date: 10 Dec 2000 20:32:49 -0800 >Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 15:49:44 +0100 >From: Moritz R >Subject: Re: (exotica) 78 RPM Manifesto > >I tried to make tape copies from old shellack 78s that my grandparents >had brought from china in the 20s and since at some points the shellack >sort of looked broken I took a closer look. And to my surprise I >discovered that these records under the surface were really made of >wood! I had no idea. Do all shellacks have a nucleus of wood? Columbia Red Label 78s are made of several different layers. Supposedly, the type of material that made for the best sound was also the most brittle. So they laminated a surface onto some sort of fiberous core. It might very well be some sort of wood pulp. I've seen that sort of thing on cracked and broken disks. >The main problem of transferring it was that the grooves were cut at an >incredibly low volume level, so even when I turned the recorder volume >level to the max it still wasn't enough to reach 0 db, so I had to do a >copy of that copy in the end. Your problem was twofold. Firstly, you were probably using a needle designed for microgroove LPs. The 78s were designed with wider grooves. The needle was supposed to rest in the V above the bottom of the groove, playing information on the sides. Worn needles became sharp and cut into the bottom of the groove. When you play a 78 with a modern needle, the diamond is so small, it drops to the bottom of the groove and plays only noise on the bottoms of the grooves. Secondly, modern HiFi records have a standard RIAA equalization curve. That wasn't true of 78s. Each company tuned the sound to match its current phonograph models, so a Columbia record had different EQ than a Victor. Today, you need an equalizer to match the EQ specs that were intended by the manufacturer. Odds are, with a proper needle, and an equalizer, those records would sound great. The grooves on 78s are very deep, so a scratch has to be a real gouge to affect the sound. With steel needles and a Victrola, even a grand canyon of a scratch is perfectly playable. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) 78 needles Date: 10 Dec 2000 20:42:10 -0800 >But I know that people who >regularly try to record 78's will for instance, have anywhere from a dozen >to a hundred different needles, all with slight variations in width, in >order to get the best possible sound from the various records they come >across. The theory there is that they are trying to get the needle to ride either higher or lower in the V of the groove to avoid areas of heavy wear. By gradually increasing the size of the point, they can find areas below or above where the steel needle of Victrolas past had worn the grooves. If a steel needle is changed with each playing, wear is pretty minimal. But a lot of folks didn't bother and they ended up shaving their records. 78s of music that appealed to less affluent clientele (hillbilly, country and blues) are often more worn than the music that appealed to the rich folk (classical and opera). I've found stacks of 78s from the teens and twenties that sound like the day they were made, and I've found 78s of country music from the late fifties that are beat to crap. Right now, I just have one cartridge... A Shure that is a tiny bit smaller than the 3 mil standard. I get very good results with it on clean records. I want to get a larger elliptical cartridge to play more heavily worn disks. I think I will be able to get by nicely with two or three cartridges. The Dual 1218 I am using has interchangable heads on the tone arm, so I can snap different cartridges in and out. >Anyone want a bunch of 78's, I'm giving them away to a good home when I >figure out how to send them. Raising my hand! Whatcha got? See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 10 Dec 2000 20:48:52 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 09:24:09 -0800 >From: Kevin Crossman >Subject: Re: (exotica) More on CD vs. vinyl > >Ross Orr wrote: >> I really >> became convinced that the absence of surface noise on a CD is >> something that people too often take for granted. It really does make >> a difference. Actually, that artificial silence is part of what makes it hard for me to listen to some CDs. When there is a consistent "air" around the sound, your brain effectively tunes it out. When there is stone silence, it sounds "dead". The amount of surface noise on new LPs and 78s is pretty negligable. It's only wear that causes the crackle and whoosh. >halleluja brother! The form factor for an LP, in terms of size, does >have an attractive advantage in some respects. Running time and compact size is the best part of CDs. For the life of me, I don't know why they ever went with that totally counter productive design for the jewel cases. They are a weird shape to fit on shelves, and they are bulkier than they need to be. >OTOH - I've seen some >very nice CD booklets which could hardly be represented as nicely within >the context of an LP. For every one of those, there are a hundred with teensy weensy song lyrics and liner notes that would have had plenty of room on the back of an LP sleeve. Anyone who has 50's LPs knows that the pictures on the covers have a lot more impact too. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 10 Dec 2000 21:42:40 -0800 bigshot wrote: > >Ross Orr wrote: > >> I really > >> became convinced that the absence of surface noise on a CD is > >> something that people too often take for granted. It really does make > >> a difference. > > Actually, that artificial silence is part of what makes it hard > for me to listen to some CDs. When there is a consistent "air" > around the sound, your brain effectively tunes it out. When there > is stone silence, it sounds "dead". You're kidding, right? Why in the world would silence, when designed and desired by the artist, be less desireable than cracks and pops all the time throughout the entire record? That's just crazy! > The amount of surface noise on > new LPs and 78s is pretty negligable. It's only wear that causes > the crackle and whoosh. Ok... how many new LPs and 78s do YOU own? Let me get this straight - and LP is a better format than a CD because it sounds better when you play it the first time? What about the tenth or hundredth time? How do you propose we keep our LPs brand new? How do we avoid wear, except not playing them (seems counter productive to not play a record you've bought to ... play). > Running time and compact size is the best part of CDs. For the > life of me, I don't know why they ever went with that totally > counter productive design for the jewel cases. They are a weird > shape to fit on shelves, and they are bulkier than they need to > be. Maybe it is my generation, but I do like the jewel case... especiall the "half height" ones or ones with clear plastic where the CD sits. -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) 78rpm records Date: 11 Dec 2000 19:25:41 +0100 bigshot wrote: > Columbia Red Label 78s are made of several different layers. Supposedly, > the type of material that made for the best sound was also the most > brittle. So they laminated a surface onto some sort of fiberous core. exactely; that's the material I found in these chinese records. Labels are Odeon, Beka and Great Wall, if that says something to you. > > Your problem was twofold. Firstly, you were probably using a needle > designed for microgroove LPs. When you play a 78 with a > modern needle, the diamond is so small, it drops to the bottom of > the groove and plays only noise on the bottoms of the grooves. This is a very interesting information, because it leaves me a chance to get a better sound quality out of those grooves, when I only find the proper needle. > > Odds are, with a proper needle, and an equalizer, those records > would sound great. The grooves on 78s are very deep, so a scratch > has to be a real gouge to affect the sound. With steel needles and > a Victrola, even a grand canyon of a scratch is perfectly playable. Thanks a lot; very interesting, very helpful. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 11 Dec 2000 13:40:08 -0500 >> Actually, that artificial silence is part of what makes it hard >> for me to listen to some CDs. When there is a consistent "air" >> around the sound, your brain effectively tunes it out. When there >> is stone silence, it sounds "dead". > >You're kidding, right? Why in the world would silence, when designed >and desired by the artist, be less desireable than cracks and pops all >the time throughout the entire record? That's just crazy! It may sound absurd, but there's a difference between "digital black" silence and "air" silence (leaving aside the issue of surface noise). >Maybe it is my generation, but I do like the jewel case... especiall the >"half height" ones or ones with clear plastic where the CD sits. *CLICK* [sound of button being pushed] I loathe jewel cases. They're sterile, soul-less, clanky, breakage-prone, space-wasting and environmental no-goodniks. The plastic manufacturers established a helluva racket there. I would like CDs so much better if they came in cardboard covers (and I don't mean the "digi-packs" with the plastic inserts). I say this because the few CDs that I do have in cardboard sleeves are so much more likable. That "Space Baby Blast Off" collection from Emperor Norton (which so many of us got in that free promo) is a great model for how to do it. A little pocket to hold the disc securely when the gatefold is shut, but not so tight that's it's difficult to extract when open. You could add a pocket on the other half of the gatefold and have a space for a booklet if you wish. Or have the booklet bound in-sleeve. Many design alternatives, as long as you get the CD sheltered safely. Plus, 3 or 4 would fit in the space of 1 lousy jewel box. I look at a shelf of records and see a shabby organic diversity. I look at a shelf of CDs and see a row of uniform plastic clones. Ech! rant over, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Gentle Waves/Velvet Underground Date: 11 Dec 2000 13:19:28 -0800 (PST) Hi Alan No offense taken. I agree with you and think this is ridiculous also. This DJ is 22 and that should explain a lot. Today, I was listening to college radio at lunch time and they played a Velvet Underground song, "Pale Blue Eyes" right before a Belle and Sebastian song. The reason I mention the VU is they seem to be listened to by lots of people. I mentioned them as influence just for this reason. As for the origins of soft pop, the spectropoppers seem to want to say in the rockandroll time and go with the Fleetwoods or "To know Him is to Love Him". Your Bing Crosby suggestion goes well. I personally think his and other 1920s pop songs share lots incommon with soft pop and I would go back futher the turn of the century pop ballads or back to civil war ballads or old English ballads. Are old English ballads that much different than Momus or Belle and Sebastian? Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- alan zweig wrote: > > At 07:30 AM 12/7/00 -0800, chuck wrote: > > > > > >Any this Dj was saying she doesn't understand why boomers and > > >punkers don't like modern soft pop. She traced this music > back > > to > > >Nick Drake. > > > > Hah! Pardon me but I just had to scoff when I read a Dj - of > all > > folks -tracing ANYTHING back to Nick Drake. That really is > hilarious on so many levels. (I'm not attacking the messenger > here > Chuck, so please don't take> offense.)> I'm not going to say that > none of the modern softpoppers were influenced by> Nick Drake, > even > though I suspect that most people only heard him through CD > reissues twenty years after the fact. > > > But to trace a whole musical movement- or minimovement - back > to > > him... > > PUH-LEEZE! > > Where would I, the scoffer, trace it back to? > > I wouldn't. > > But if I had to, I'd have to know how far back you want to go. > > The Andrews Sisters? The Mills Brothers? Bing Crosby? > > Or more recent? The Everly Brothers? > > You say the Velvet Underground. Someone else says the > > Fleetwoods. > > Do I hear the Beatles? Who influenced them? > > All ideas are worthy and now that I've calmed down, I can even > > hear Nick > > Drake in there but still, this DJ must have been twelve years > old > > to be > > tracing it all the way back to Nick Drake... > > > > AZ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Gentle Waves Date: 11 Dec 2000 14:40:51 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of alan zweig > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:16 AM > Hah! Pardon me but I just had to scoff when I read a Dj - of all folks > -tracing ANYTHING back to Nick Drake. > That really is hilarious on so many levels. > But to trace a whole musical movement- or minimovement - back to him... > But if I had to, I'd have to know how far back you want to go. > The Andrews Sisters? The Mills Brothers? Bing Crosby? I agree with Alan that it is indeed pretty ridiculous to trace "the modern soft pop movement" to Nick Drake. But surely it makes the discussion moot to go as far back as Bing Crosby -- or as Chuck wrote, old English ballads. At that point not even the Beatles can be presumed original, much more launched any revolution/movement of any sort. And one would agree that Belle and Sebastian probably listened to a lot of Nick Drake records more than they did any Andrews Sisters LPs. That said, I should admit to the fact that I only discovered Drake through the reissues myself. Me, I'd pick the Everly Brothers, therefore positing a nice indirect line from Little Susie to Photo Jenny. Later, Ben np: "requiem for a dream" http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: RE: (exotica) Gentle Waves Date: 11 Dec 2000 15:08:16 -0800 (PST) I'm not sure but I think I remember Ringo's first album, something Buttercups, had a lot of Drake songs on it. I see soft pop music as such a vast universe that tracing it back to one group or person is impossible. For me before there was rock and roll there was soft pop. This is because its simple to make. No drums needed, just a guitar and soft vocals. Nick Drake, being the folkie that he is, certainly knew old English ballads and turn of the century folk ballads. If he is as popular as people think, maybe its not too farfetched to see the old English folk/ballad connection with todys Belle and Sebastian. Chuck --- Benito Vergara wrote: > And one would agree that Belle and Sebastian probably listened to > a lot of > Nick Drake records more than they did any Andrews Sisters LPs. > > That said, I should admit to the fact that I only discovered > Drake through > the reissues myself. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: RE: (exotica) Gentle Waves Date: 11 Dec 2000 18:44:19 -0500 At 03:08 PM 12/11/00 -0800, chuck wrote: > >I see soft pop music as such a vast universe that tracing it back >to one group or person is impossible. > > Nick Drake, being the folkie that he is, certainly knew >old English ballads and turn of the century folk ballads. If he is >as popular as people think, maybe its not too farfetched to see the >old English folk/ballad connection with todys Belle and Sebastian. I love Nick Drake. So I wasn't putting him down when I scoffed at the idea of tracing "soft pop" back to Nick Drake. I scoffed because before you start tracing things back to someone whose material only vaguely resembles soft pop (yeah it IS kind of soft), why not trace it back to artists whose material very much resembles it? I scoffed because instead of tracing a movement back to one fairly obscure artist whose material is only becoming better known twenty years after his death, why not trace it back to artists who were inescapable in their time? Why not go with the obvious before you start to dig for the obscure? I scoffed because you know, what about the Beach Boys? The Association. Fifth Dimension. The Lettermen. The Sandpipers. Andy Williams. The Johnny Mann singers. I would trace my newfound interest in softpop to the Free Design, whose music I heard for the first time a couple of years ago. But the point is, that's my NEWFOUND interest. It's an interest which was already there but laying dormant. It was there since I was a kid. The Beatles, the Beach Boys... and before that Peter Paul and Mary and other things I heard on the radio that I can't even identify. If someone were to tell me that hearing Nick Drake was a factor in shaping their soft pop music, I wouldn't scoff. But tracing a whole movement back to him, well all I can do is scoff. I must admit that the other reason I laughed was because I could just imagine this young DJ trying to prove how cool and obscure and brilliant they are by coming up with a cool theory involving a fairly obscure artist. The other thing I have to say - and this is way too complicated to discuss here - is that the whole issue of how things from the past influence, inspire and form "artists" in the present is WAY WAY WAY oversimplified. I'd say my film was more influenced by music - including Mark Eitzel, John Coltrane and Brian Eno - than it was by any particular film or film "movement". It's one thing to endlessly compare music and describe music with such phrases as "The Beach Boys meet Belle and Sebastian". It's another thing to actually believe that those are the forces which formed the music. end of lecture first big snowfall of the season here... AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Animated 78s? Date: 11 Dec 2000 21:04:10 -0500 I think Lou Smith, the King of the Links Not Conquerable by Tiger Woods, posted this, but I cannot find it. There was a site that had animated .gifs of 78s for Children. Does anyone still have this link? Tell Me a Story and then I'll go to bed, Bwian Phiwwips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tipsy Tease Date: 11 Dec 2000 21:35:30 EST There is a 4 song, well actually two song promo single out by Tipsy with a note on the CARDBOARD sleeve that the LP will arrive sometime in 2001. The first song has two mixes. The second song, also mixed twice, is called something like XXXmas. One of the mixes of the first song (too lazy to run upstairs to get the thing to actually type the title for all y'all) uses a familiar sample for its groove. I THINK its The Jaynettes' "Sally Go 'Round The Roses"...First listen got a thumb up at this address..JB Ebert/roses, they can't hurt you # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Which CD-burner's the best? Date: 11 Dec 2000 22:00:45 -0500 > While we're on the subject.. > As someone who's about to get a CD writer/burner of his own, I was just > wondering what brand/model people here have had the best luck with? (and > which ones should be avoided like a Garth Brooks Xmas record). Thanks. Skip Philips. I finally trashed mine after a year of problems and the warranty wore out. I have a Creative and it does pretty well at up to 4x. Though I had problems recently, but it looks like it was because it needed to be cleaned. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Animated 78s? Date: 11 Dec 2000 22:05:57 -0500 At 09:04 PM 12/11/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: > >I think Lou Smith, the King of the Links Not Conquerable by Tiger Woods, >posted this, but I cannot find it. There was a site that had animated >.gifs of 78s for Children. Does anyone still have this link? I don't know what a gif is but how's this work? http://members.aol.com/kiddie78s/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) Animated 78s? Date: 12 Dec 2000 00:27:38 -0500 At 09:04 PM 12/11/00 -0500, you wrote: > >I think Lou Smith, the King of the Links Not Conquerable by Tiger Woods, >posted this, but I cannot find it. There was a site that had animated >.gifs of 78s for Children. Does anyone still have this link? > >Tell Me a Story and then I'll go to bed, >Bwian Phiwwips > I forget exactly which site I posted. Try this and see if the appropriate one is there: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22red+raven%22+records&hl=en&lr=&safe=off I think the likely site you remember (http://elaine.teleport.com/~rfrederi/wraven1.shtml) is now history. I recall that there is one example at Mac's page at http://www.wfmu.org . Good luck, lil sleepyhead! ls # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 11 Dec 2000 21:42:03 -0800 > David Bartell wrote: > > Ok... how many new LPs and 78s do YOU own? > > Maybe three hundred near-mint. My point was what's the point of having near mint LPs... once you start to play them they aren't mint anymore! That's fine if you're collecting album cover art or something -- or if you made some sort of copy first time you play it -- but what if you want to play the thing? -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 02:55:41 -0500 At 09:42 PM 12/11/00 -0800, Kevin Crossman wrote: > > >My point was what's the point of having near mint LPs... once you start >to play them they aren't mint anymore! I don't know what the context is here but having now spent a bit of time on ebay with guys who like to talk about things as "mint" etc, I now realize once and for all that the word has absolutely NO meaning. Last week records arrived from two different guys who rated their records by looking at them. ONLY by looking at them. As it turned out, they were both pretty cool about me getting my money back but the more I read these auctions, the more I realize there's a bunch of guys selling records who actually have no turntable or any other way of playing the damn things. So they look at them and rate them that way. Which is a tad unreliable. Anyway, all I'm saying is that if mint means "looks like it has no scratches or smudges", then it doesn't mean squat. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) a quandary Date: 12 Dec 2000 03:08:59 -0500 I'm looking for some advice. There's this record that I talk about in my film. It's something I've always wanted ever since I first read about it years ago. IF you know what record I'm talking about, please don't "out" me here. Anyway I wouldn't call the record a "holy grail" but it's sort of become one because almost every week someone who saw the film asks me if I ever got that record. A few months ago, I bid on this record at ebay but when it got over 75 dollars, I gave up. Then the guy who was selling it, emailed me and told me he had another one and he would sell it to me for just 75 dollars. I decided against it. Sanity ruled. (Especially since I have it on CD) A few days ago, someone who saw the film emailed me about a new ebay auction. So I'm watching it. It started at 9 dollars, there've been two bids. It's at 13.84 and there's two days and twenty hours left. I have to decide not just how high I should go in my bidding but whether I want it at all. I kind of don't want it. Unless I find it for next to nothing somewhere or there's a good story or something. But it's a lot more fun somehow telling people I still don't have it than telling them I won it at ebay. Even though I do like the idea that someone who saw the film found the auction for me. Then there's the money. It could easily go up to 30 bucks and that would be the most money I've ever spent on a record (even though admittedly I have been buying a lot of records lately and spending WAY WAY more than I used to back in my "quantity over quality" days.) So what do you think? Isn't it always true that the hunt is better than the capture? Or not. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Animated 78s? Date: 12 Dec 2000 19:18:43 +1100 on 12/12/00 1:04 PM, Brian Phillips at hagar@mindspring.net wrote: > > I think Lou Smith, the King of the Links Not Conquerable by Tiger Woods, > posted this, but I cannot find it. There was a site that had animated > .gifs of 78s for Children. Does anyone still have this link? http://www.wfmu.org/MACrec/raven2.html One example philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 04:03:32 -0500 At 9:42 PM -0800 12/11/00, Kevin Crossman wrote: >My point was what's the point of having near mint LPs... once you start >to play them they aren't mint anymore! That's fine if you're collecting >album cover art or something -- or if you made some sort of copy first >time you play it -- but what if you want to play the thing? I have records from the 1950's that sound better than any CD ever made. And I have 78's that sound better than any CD (or LP) ever made. The idea that they deteriorate after playing is a complete fallicy to my ear. Anyone care to disagree? Come over to my house and I'll A-B em for ya. You won't believe the difference. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) jewel cases (was: CD vs LP) Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:17:17 +0100 "m.ace" wrote: > I loathe jewel cases. They're sterile, soul-less, clanky, breakage-prone, > space-wasting and environmental no-goodniks. The plastic manufacturers > established a helluva racket there. I would like CDs so much better if they > came in cardboard covers (and I don't mean the "digi-packs" with the > plastic inserts). I say this because the few CDs that I do have in > cardboard sleeves are so much more likable. That "Space Baby Blast Off" > collection from Emperor Norton (which so many of us got in that free promo) > is a great model for how to do it. A little pocket to hold the disc > securely when the gatefold is shut, but not so tight that's it's difficult > to extract when open. You could add a pocket on the other half of the > gatefold and have a space for a booklet if you wish. Or have the booklet > bound in-sleeve. Many design alternatives, as long as you get the CD > sheltered safely. Plus, 3 or 4 would fit in the space of 1 lousy jewel box. > I look at a shelf of records and see a shabby organic diversity. I look at > a shelf of CDs and see a row of uniform plastic clones. Ech! > > rant over, d'accord in all points! The jewel cases were designed for stupidos who think they're getting a sublime piece of high tech when they buy a CD. It's a sign of the times in all product design since pocket calculators and crystal clocks. Technology has to look like technolgy or people don't believe it's technology. And may I add, that the guy (or girl?) who designed the slits in the jewel case where the booklet sits in like a bone between the teeth of a bulldog deserves to be shot on the moon for that! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) the sound of silence (was: CD vs LP) Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:17:54 +0100 "m.ace" wrote: > It may sound absurd, but there's a difference between "digital black" > silence and "air" silence (leaving aside the issue of surface noise). have you ever discovered how much noise your own body makes, when there is literally no sound outside? I have when I was in Death Valley a couple of years ago. Extremely loud sound of the blood pumping through my ears for instance. Somehow the brain always manages to create a relative sound spectrum. I guess everybody has made this experience that noises seem to become louder the later the night and the less noises come from outside. So with all these natural sounds around I'm sure I will not be afraid of "dead" moments on CDs ever. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 08:36:10 -0500 > > My point was what's the point of having near mint LPs... once you start > to play them they aren't mint anymore! I was talking to one record lover who was familiar with the Nitty Gritty Record Machine. He said the recommended technique was to play your record, and then use the Nitty Gritty machine AFTER EACH time you played the disc. He claimed that he heard records maintained this way that had been played over 100 times and still sounded like new. Few people, however, take the time to do this. Those that do will be rewarded by better sounding records. This reminds me of the taxi car driver who changed the oil in his taxi every day - he had something like 500,000 miles on his car, and never had any engine problems during that time. A little bit overboard I think, but it was important to him. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Teresa Sterne Date: 12 Dec 2000 10:02:49 -0500 December 12, 2000 Teresa Sterne, 73, Pioneer in Making Classical Records, Dies By ANTHONY TOMMASINI Teresa Sterne, a pioneering producer of classical recordings, died on Sunday at her home in Manhattan. She was 73. She had been suffering from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease, said a friend, Norma Hurlburt, executive director of the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center. As the director of Nonesuch Records from 1965 through 1979, Ms. Sterne turned a small budget label into one of the most adventurous companies in the recording business. When she was invited to take charge of Nonesuch, the label was a subsidiary of the pop-oriented and profitable Elektra Records. Nonesuch's business had consisted mostly of acquiring the rights to existing recordings of Baroque music by European ensembles and reissuing them at budget prices in the United States. Ms. Sterne, called Tracey by her friends and colleagues, brought a vision to the job born of her long experience in music. She had been a piano prodigy, and though she gave up public performance as an adult, she maintained close ties with the composers and performers of her day. At Nonesuch she brought attention to areas of music neglected by the major labels, particularly contemporary music and American vernacular music. She championed American composers like George Crumb, Elliott Carter, Morton Subotnick, Charles Wuorinen and Donald Martino, not just recording their works but commissioning them, an unusual move for the leader of a record company. She also issued important recordings of lesser-known works by Schoenberg, Busoni, Stravinsky and other major figures. She nurtured relationships with several excellent performers not widely known at the time, like the pianist Paul Jacobs, the mezzo-soprano Jan DeGaetani and the pianist Gilbert Kalish. Many of the artists she discovered were first recognized for their work in contemporary music. Ms. Sterne encouraged them to record past works that interested them as well, like Jacobs's critically hailed recording of the Debussy études and Mr. Kalish's engaging survey of the Haydn piano sonatas. The mezzo-soprano Joan Morris and her husband and professional partner, the composer and pianist William Bolcom, made some popular Nonesuch recordings of vernacular American songs from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. And Ms. Sterne sparked a nationwide craze for ragtime with a series of Scott Joplin piano works played by Joshua Rifkin. She was also in the forefront of the early instrument movement in Baroque and Renaissance repertory. And under her leadership, Nonesuch's Explorer series introduced music from Bali, India, Peru and other countries to a wider audience. Ms. Sterne believed that every record she produced should have a purpose, and she involved herself with everything, from the packaging to the liner notes. But in late 1979 she was dismissed from Nonesuch. Early in her tenure the record label had been acquired by Warner Communications, and by the mid-1970's, it was grouped under a parent company, Elektra/Asylum/ Nonesuch, headed by Joe Smith. Warner officials asserted that Nonesuch was losing money. In an interview with The Boston Globe at the time, Mr. Smith said: "Nonesuch is in business, and it is losing its credibility in its marketplace. We can't make records that sell only outside the Russian Tea Room." Ms. Sterne argued that the losses were mostly caused by the parent company's poor marketing and distribution. A letter condemning her dismissal, written by 10 Pulitzer Prize-winning composers, including Mr. Carter and Aaron Copland, was sent to the vice president of Warner Communications and widely circulated in the press, to no avail. Ms. Sterne never anticipated becoming a record producer. She was born in Brooklyn on March 29, 1927, to a cultured family with a toehold on the middle class. Her mother was a cellist who gave up her career to nurture her musical daughter. Ms. Sterne's father, a violinist, deserted the family when she was 14. Her paternal uncle, Robert Sterne, a professional violinist, became an important mentor. From the age of 10, she was educated at home by private tutors, living with her mother and a beloved aunt in "a kind of aristocratic poverty," as she once told a friend. In 1939, when she was 12, she made her professional debut as a pianist playing Grieg's Piano Concerto with the NBC Symphony Orchestra at Madison Square Garden. The next year she played Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto with the New York Philharmonic at Lewisohn Stadium, winning cheers from the audience and glowing reviews from critics. Her career as a prodigy flourished. But after such a rarefied and isolated upbringing, Ms. Sterne felt that she lacked the pragmatism and confidence to pursue a professional career. Wanting experience in the real world, she became a secretary, soon winding up in the offices of the powerful manager Sol Hurok, where she nurtured the careers of other young artists. A series of administrative jobs, including assistant to the director at Vanguard Records, led to her hiring by Nonesuch. Ms. Sterne, who never married, leaves no immediate survivors. After her dismissal from Nonesuch, the company went through many changes. Earlier this year, Robert Hurwitz, its director since 1984 and a great admirer of Ms. Sterne, issued a two-disc recording in tribute to her, containing highlights from favorite albums she had produced and live recordings of performances she gave in her early years as a piano prodigy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: RE: (exotica) Gentle Waves Date: 12 Dec 2000 08:36:06 -0800 (PST) Allan you old scoffer you..I always enjoy your lectures. And I hope you continue on this topic. I find it difficult to understand the origins and extent of influences of music culture. Certainly it has become accepted that the banjo and African influences plus European folk music came over and lead to many 1900 folk songs whether they were soul ballads or country ballads. Did this lead to the pop music of the 1920's, I think so but I'm guessing. There were so many other cultural influences from plays to movies to radio to popular personalities on music. That the topic is too long a complicated to write a thesis here. But this is just an example I'm putting forth to exemplify the difficulty in determining cultural influences on music. I find it incredulous that Nick Drake alone is a major cultural influence on todays pop. I generally agree with everything you said Allan. Free Design also helped push me back into sunshine pop and soft pop. I have a related question that I hope can be discussed. Is the soft pop of Nick Drake, Belle and Sebastian or a 1920's soft pop tune that much different? Other than culutural differences of the individuals Betty Boop and Kahimi Karie share a lot in common for me. The soft pop music of Nick Drake and the Velvet Underground seem so similiar to some of todays artists, I just can't believe it. And Nick Drake sounds similar to folk artists 30 years before. I'm not talking about influences but music similarities. Thanks for you insightful response Chuck --- alan zweig wrote: > > I love Nick Drake. So I wasn't putting him down when I scoffed > at the idea > of tracing "soft pop" back to Nick Drake. > I scoffed because before you start tracing things back to someone > whose > material only vaguely resembles soft pop (yeah it IS kind of > soft), why not > trace it back to artists whose material very much resembles it? > I scoffed because instead of tracing a movement back to one > fairly obscure > artist whose material is only becoming better known twenty years > after his > death, why not trace it back to artists who were inescapable in > their time? > Why not go with the obvious before you start to dig for the > obscure? > I scoffed because you know, what about the Beach Boys? The > Association. > Fifth Dimension. The Lettermen. The Sandpipers. Andy Williams. > The > Johnny Mann singers. > I would trace my newfound interest in softpop to the Free Design, > whose > music I heard for the first time a couple of years ago. > But the point is, that's my NEWFOUND interest. > It's an interest which was already there but laying dormant. > It was there since I was a kid. The Beatles, the Beach Boys... > and before > that Peter Paul and Mary and other things I heard on the radio > that I can't > even identify. > If someone were to tell me that hearing Nick Drake was a factor > in shaping > their soft pop music, I wouldn't scoff. > But tracing a whole movement back to him, well all I can do is > scoff. > I must admit that the other reason I laughed was because I could > just > imagine this young DJ trying to prove how cool and obscure and > brilliant > they are by coming up with a cool theory involving a fairly > obscure artist. > > The other thing I have to say - and this is way too complicated > to discuss > here - is that the whole issue of how things from the past > influence, > inspire and form "artists" in the present is WAY WAY WAY > oversimplified. > I'd say my film was more influenced by music - including Mark > Eitzel, John > Coltrane and Brian Eno - than it was by any particular film or > film > "movement". > It's one thing to endlessly compare music and describe music with > such > phrases as "The Beach Boys meet Belle and Sebastian". It's > another thing > to actually believe that those are the forces which formed the > music. > > end of lecture __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) cd's vs. LP's Date: 12 Dec 2000 11:40:14 >Running time and compact size is the best part of CDs. For the life of me, I don't know why they ever went with that totally counter productive design for the jewel cases. They are a weird shape to fit on shelves, and they are bulkier than they need to be. They went with that package because they wanted to promote the idea that cd's were precious "jewel"-like objects that fully deserved to cost twice as much as LPs and cassettes. The present case is a completely inefficient design that takes up as much practical storage space on my wall as an LP. Sometime soon I'm inevitably going to have to buy little PVC envelopes and junk the jewel cases, which will at least triple my storage volume, though it won't look very pretty and will be hard to see where things are from the spines. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) jewel cases (was: CD vs LP) Date: 12 Dec 2000 11:44:51 -0500 At 12:17 PM 12/12/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > >d'accord in all points! The jewel cases were designed for stupidos who think >they're getting a sublime piece of high tech when they buy a CD. That's pretty funny. That they even call them "jewel" cases. Never really thought of that before. The thing that bugs me about CD's lately is when I try and sell them and the guy examines them and tells me they're a bit scratched or smudged or whatever. So what? I didn't scratch them with my needle or anything. I like the digipacks. I'm always glad when I get a CD in it's own cardboard package. I occasionally get one without a digipack but with a "space" to slide the CD in or out. On the other hand, I occasionally get one where you need pliers to slide it out of its envelope. (The first Tortoise CD comes to mind) The "logical" mode for CD's would be for everyone to have those 200 CD changers which are becoming more and more common and more and more cheap. And once you've made that adjustment, you'll be ready for the day - which is coming soon - where there won't be any actual object and therefore no packaging. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 09:50:50 -0800 (PST) I pulled out my most played album ever, and I played it a lot when it first came out on rather cheap equipment. I put Rubber Soul on my turntable dropped the nice grado cartridge on it and out came the most beautiful Beatles music I'd heard in many years. This album was played by my sisters and I when we were kids. I know I took good care of it but I never expected it to sound this good after all those years. I still have the original cellophane on the cover. Really this played lp sounds better than the cd. And the cd lacks Its Only Love and I've Just Seen a Face, you have to get the Help cd to hear those in cheap cd quality. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Flexidiscs Date: 12 Dec 2000 19:38:38 +0100 The bendable sounds of flexi-discs : http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/25/flexi1.html and http://www.wfmu.org/MACrec/ Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:42:30 +0100 itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: > I was talking to one record lover who was familiar with the Nitty Gritty Record > Machine. He said the recommended technique was to play your record, and then > use the Nitty Gritty machine AFTER EACH time you played the disc. He claimed > that he heard records maintained this way that had been played over 100 times > and still sounded like new. people who play LPs more than a hundred times are either 12 years old, crazy, or DJs. I doubt though that DJs take that Nitty Gritty Record Machine to work and find time to clean each record after each time they play it. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) The Sound of Silence Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:23:20 -0800 Hello, >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:42:40 -0800 >From: Kevin Crossman >Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP > >You're kidding, right? Why in the world would silence, when designed >and desired by the artist, be less desireable than cracks and pops all >the time throughout the entire record? That's just crazy! Well, an example would be if you've ever been into a cave. The total absence of sound sounds "louder" than just a light pad. Movie sound mixers know this. They add a very slight ambient sound to scenes to keep them from sounding dead. A lot of engineers who master CDs mix according to the meters instead of their ears. They end up with sound that is very contrasty and hard to listen to. >Ok... how many new LPs and 78s do YOU own? Tons! And I find more every day! >Let me get this straight - >and LP is a better format than a CD because it sounds better when you >play it the first time? What about the tenth or hundredth time? How do >you propose we keep our LPs brand new? How do we avoid wear, except not >playing them (seems counter productive to not play a record you've >bought to ... play). I bet you don't have a turntable. It's common for people who have never had records to assume that records are extremely fragile and that playing them wears them out. But that isn't necessarily true. The back sides of CDs are MORE fragile than the average record. Have you ever scratched the paint on the back side of a CD? It won't play at all. A scratched record may have a pop, but it will still play. Wear isn't a big problem either... With a good turntable that tracks properly, you can play records hundreds of times without any significant problems. I have records that I bought more than twenty years ago that sound like new. CDs are more compact and *in theory* they have a more balanced frequency response and a better signal to noise ratio. But that doesn't mean that the mastering of the source material sounds better than the original LP issue. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Plastic Ballast Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:26:36 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:40:08 -0500 >From: "m.ace" >Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP > >I loathe jewel cases. They're sterile, soul-less, clanky, breakage-prone, >space-wasting and environmental no-goodniks. I'm with you on that! I trash them and use the Case logic books. I can fit 3,000 cds on two shelves easily that way. With jewel cases, I'd need a huge bookshelf to hold all that. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:31:18 -0800 Hello, >My point was what's the point of having near mint LPs... once you start >to play them they aren't mint anymore! That's fine if you're collecting >album cover art or something -- or if you made some sort of copy first >time you play it -- but what if you want to play the thing? That isn't true. Get yourself a nice Dual, Technics or Thorens turntable with a nice Shure, Grado or Ortofon cartridge and find out for yourself. I recommend picking up a turntable cheap at ebay, then get the cartridge at www.garage-a-records.com. They're nice people, and they can get you just about anything you'd need to play LPs, 45s and 78s. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Ebay Grading Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:38:59 -0800 Hello, >I don't know what the context is here but having now spent a bit of time on >ebay with guys who like to talk about things as "mint" etc, I now realize >once and for all that the word has absolutely NO meaning. Buying records at ebay is like buying a pig in a poke. It's smartest to bottom feed, putting a low minimum on and just letting it go if someone ups your bid. Doing that I've gotten several thousand 78s, and I've found the batches where the person knows nothing about them are usually about as good as the "dealers" who visually grade them. With 78s, I've been paying 50 cents to a dollar a disk, and 90% are good enough to play, 40% are very good "keepers", and 15% are brand spanking new. I don't know if the odds are the same for LPs, but I would guess it's comparable. I only play "very good" and "good" records on my acoustic phonograph. The mint ones only get played electronically. Since electronic turntables put absolutely no wear at all on 78s, they'll never get any worse as long as I own them. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Anal Rententive Calliope Music Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:44:00 -0800 Hello, >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:36:10 -0500 >From: itsvern@attglobal.net >Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP > >I was talking to one record lover who was familiar with the Nitty Gritty >Record Machine. He said the recommended technique was to play your record, >and then use the Nitty Gritty machine AFTER EACH time you played the disc. Ask him a question for me, would you? Ask him how many times a day he washes his hands. I think the answer to that question will explain this behavior. A simple swipe with a DiskWasher velvet every time you play a record is sufficient to keep it sounding good for thousands of plays. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 16:46:38 -0500 Moritz R wrote: > people who play LPs more than a hundred times are either 12 years old, crazy, or > DJs. I doubt though that DJs take that Nitty Gritty Record Machine to work and find > time to clean each record after each time they play it. Why would anyone want to clean a record AFTER they play it? I prefer to clean mine right before I play them, so that I don't ruin my stylus. They shouldn't get dirty while they're being played, should they? As for Steve's theory that Discwashers work fine, well, once you've used a Nitty Gritty, you'll never use a Discwasher velvet again - they're not the same thing at all - one wipes the surface of dust, while the other cleans the grooves of the record. (and no, we don't take our Nitty Gritty to the radio station...we don't even take our LPs there anymore - the cartridges and tonearms are too unreliable...) And I don't know if anyone on this list would know if this is true or not, but I was once told that if you played a vinyl LP more than once in a row, because the vinyl heats up slightly while it's being played, repeated playing could damage the LP because the stylus lops off bits of vinyl if it's warm. Again, I don't know if this is true or not, and really it probably only applies if you are 12 years old, listening to the same top-30 single again and again and again... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:34:57 Here's my 2 bits - I'll try to keep it as Paul Harvey-esque as possible: >My point was what's the point of having near mint LPs... once you start >to play them they aren't mint anymore! That's fine if you're collecting >album cover art or something -- or if you made some sort of copy first >time you play it -- but what if you want to play the thing? > >-Kevin Records that I've probably played dozens and dozens of times over the years on decent equipment still sound perfect (or "Near-mint") to me. And, I guess if I were to sell them, would advertise them as such. Which isn't of course to say that I wouldn't pass up the chance to post some trashed-out rarity as "Near-mint" on ebay, and then sprint happily across county lines with y'alls's dirty $$$. And this leads me to a barely-related question: I'm not hyper-meticulous with my records, but still I think only one LP has been scratched of my own accord over years of constant use, banging, dropping, needle-skipping, etc. But then how do thrift-store records wind up in such bedraggled condition? I mean, it can't have been that they were just merely mishandled, it's like they were distributed to school-children for playground use. Actually, I now believe that the more interesting records I find in thrift stores have probably trickled down through many different record collectors' collections, each successively hoping that "it plays better than it looks" (another lame ebay reference), and finally wind up on my record shelves, a veritable safe-haven for down-trodden vinyl. -Dan _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Thrift Stores Horrors Date: 12 Dec 2000 14:59:44 -0800 (PST) --- Daniel Shiman wrote:And this leads me to a barely-related question: > But then how do thrift-store records wind up in such bedraggled > condition? Hi Daniel I'm convinced that albums at thrift stores are cursed. They get thrown in a box in a truck. Then they get filtered through by unscrupulous employees. Furniture and mayhem is piled up on top of them. Then they arrive at the thrift store and get put on the floor in the garage in a dank musty spot. Mildew starts growing. Then they are sifted through by more unscrupulous employees. Finally they are thrown in a shopping cart and flung on the shelves by someone who hates records. Have you ever been in a thrift store where there is someone who likes lps? If so you will be shocked at how they are treated so much better and look much better to. I'm almost convinced that someone goes through the albums and takes the lp out of the jacket just to scratch it up. A few years back I went to a thrift store, saw the Marco Polo lp in front, (where its sure to get bent). Grabbed the cover it was light, no lp inside, found the lp with a bunch of others without covers getting its extra dose of scratches. Ever wonder where all those Elvis albums are?? I certainly have only seen them once. I walked into the donation section of a goodwill with a guy who was donating the lps right then and there. I went through the box and found lots of really beautiful records including many modern Elvis records. I grabbed Elvis in Hawaii and Satellite Elvis. Came back the next day and no Elvises. Now these unscrupulous employees can't catch everything. When they miss it or don't know about it thats when we find the cool lps. Ever wonder how professional use record dealers get all their great records? Why aren't all those cool records in thrifts that you see in used record stores? In this town 60s rock and roll lps are not reaching the shelves. The same went on with Tiki Mugs. As soon as this Tiki thing got popular a few years back they disappeared. A professional privately owned store by my house that sells used records and things never had Tiki Mugs until a few years ago and now I have never seen a Tiki mug for almost a year. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 18:13:42 -0500 At 04:46 PM 12/12/00 -0500, cheryl wrote: > >Moritz R wrote: > >> people who play LPs more than a hundred times are either 12 years old, crazy, or >> DJs. I doubt though that DJs take that Nitty Gritty Record Machine to work and find >> time to clean each record after each time they play it. > >Why would anyone want to clean a record AFTER they play it? I prefer to >clean mine right before I play them, so that I don't ruin my stylus. >They shouldn't get dirty while they're being played, should they? Quick, what's the name of the Godard film where Johnny Hallyday plays a Belmondo-style gangster role? Anyway in that film, Johnny is taking a piss beside one of the other characters and he says (and I'm paraphrasing)... "There are two kinds of men in this world. Those who wash their hands before they piss and those who wash their hands after they piss. The first kind want to keep their penis clean and the second kind want to keep their hands clean". I can't find the analogy there but I was reminded of it anyway. When I saw the movie, which was at least 15 years ago, I was totally fascinated by the idea that there were men who washed their hands BEFORE. I thought that there were two kinds of men: those that wash after and those that don't wash at all. When it comes to records, I'm the third kind. The don't wash at all. I think it's obvious which one I am when it comes to penises. Maybe not. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift Stores Horrors Date: 12 Dec 2000 18:33:24 -0500 >Ever wonder how professional use record dealers get all their great >records? Why aren't all those cool records in thrifts that you >see in used record stores? In this town 60s rock and roll lps are >not reaching the shelves. The same goes for estate sales. There is a dealer that actually works my area to comb for cool stuff. He or she is not getting everything, thankfully, but there are probably similar stories. A dealer that I know (RECORD dealer, you gossip hounds), says that he is now seeing some of the great old, old stuff because some collectors are dying. Things that the pros didn't get: Ananda Shankar and his Music The lady that I had to ask for records, said no and came back with a box chock full of 60's Northern Soul, all of which she sold me for 25 cents apiece. The second time I pulled that stunt at a Garage sale, I ended up with Eddie "The Old Philosopher" Lawrence on Coral. Biggest heartbreak, the "More of Tom Lehrer" album jacket that I never found the LP for at a Goodwill store that I used to raid for stuff and straighten out their disheveled LP stacks, which then closed! Speaking of which, a buddy of mine went to New Or...the Big Easy and did manage to find a copy of the Sean Bonniwell Music Machine LP, which for you Nuggets folks out there is well worth buying; it's been reissued as "Beyond the Garage". The worst mangling I ever did see was at a library. One patron had taken a knife and cut into a Jethro Tull song, in a zigzag. Yeesh! Easy Listening in the Bi..*POP*, Bi..*POP*, Bi..*POP*, Bi..*POP* (thrift store .sig), Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:33:36 EST In a message dated 12/12/0 11:44:58 AM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >The thing that bugs me about CD's lately is when I >try and sell them and the guy examines them and tells me they're a bit >scratched or smudged or whatever. So what? The "what" I'm told is the deep dark secret that the "information" on the CD is in danger of going up in "smoke" should a scratch mar the surface. That "what" also submits that CD's have been made with planned obsolescence.....JB/Castro killed JFK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:38:44 EST In a message dated 12/12/0 2:40:44 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >people who play LPs more than a hundred times are either 12 years old, crazy, or >DJs. Some of us crazy 12 year olds might just like the rekkid a whole lot. BTW I was on the phone with dustygroove the other day and heard a whirring sound in the background. "Got your boys washing LP's" I asked my helpful salesman? He asked how I knew...'nuff said...JB/world's oldest adolescent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Anal Rententive Calliope Music Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:42:21 EST In a message dated 12/12/0 3:43:35 PM, bigshot@spumco.com wrote: >A simple swipe with a DiskWasher velvet every time you play >a record is sufficient to keep it sounding good for thousands >of plays. until the diskwasher velvet gets so loaded with crud and you don't get around to getting another one and you still play your vinyl daily and don't get it clean enough and stuff gets into the grooves and you develops tics, pops and clicks...Don't laff my friends, it DOES happen..JB/I wore (out) blue velvet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) record handling and peeing Date: 12 Dec 2000 21:15:44 -0500 > Why would anyone want to clean a record AFTER they play it? I think this compulsive record owner cleaned his records both before and after listening to them. This story might have involved an employee of the Library of Congress who is involved with the preservation of very rare 'one-of-a-kind' records. I did a search and excerpted a few interesting comments about the preservation and handling of rare records..... --------- 1. " The Library of Congress maintains a vast collection of LPs. Archived vinyl must be rotated a quarter-turn periodically so that the vinyl doesn't warp and deform due to gravity. The Libarary of Congress does this every few years or so for each of their LPs." --------- 2. "To minimize surface deformations, always remove shrink wrap from records. It can continue to shrink thus warping the disc. Do not interfile different-sized recordings which creates uneven pressure on the larger items." --------- 3. "Do NOT attempt to blow dirt off a record! You are sending a fine spray of sticky saliva containing God Knows What-All over at least half the record." -------- And here is a link that describes how dust damages the record - which has to do with a temporary melting of the LP as the stylus passes over it. This page also shows a picture of the $4000 Keith Monks record cleaning machine. http://members.tripod.com/~graemej/rcmeng.htm And finally, a word about washing hands before urinating. This is the recommended practice for outdoor agricultural workers who hand weed or harvest fruits and vegetables, due to the insecticides that may have been sprayed on the crop. It is recommended that hands are washed both before and after urinating. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "naile trismegistus" Subject: (exotica) Accidental Thrift Store Scores.... help? Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:29:59 -0000 Well, it is literally a dark and stormy night where I am right now. Today, in an effort to get out of the rain momentarily, I stepped into a local thrift store. I found much vinyl, to my pleasant surprise. All of it in seemingly excellent condition, with covers in excellent condition. The bad news is, I have nothing to play any of it on at the moment. If anybody can tell me anything about these, I'd love some opinions. Jack Payne presents "Say It With Music" (appears to be EMI) Paul Mauriat Salutes The Beatles (wasn't this discussed recently? on Contour Records) George Arlt And His Orchestra: The Sound Of Strings (Realm records- great cover with a woman desperately attempting to smile on it. She probably looks like Iggy Pop now) Bill Snyder, his Magic Piano, and his Orchestra: Bewitching Hour (Brunswick Records... apparently he owns the world's only "air-conditioned" piano. Anyone wanna tell me about this???) Bill Snyder: Sweet And Lovely (Brunswick Records) Ray Anthony: Plays For Star Dancing (strange cover, almost a Busby Berkely type setting of couples dancing) Constellation: An Introduction To Essential Stereo (I'm dying to hear the tracks by "Big Ben Hawaiian Band" and "Manuel And The Music Of The Mountains") Cocktails With Cavallaro The Jay Norman Quintet: Cocktail Hour (from the liner notes: "Here is a happy selection of numbers, in super-danceable, snappy arrangements and wonderful styling in the playing of Jay Norman and his Quintet. How to describe it? Album notes won't do it. The proof is in the playing...and the dancing...and the dreaming. Skip the jacket; spin the disc and find out that this record has a wonderful selection of tunes.") The Dick Powell Song Book (purchased solely for the track: "The Girl On The Police Gazette") Artie Shaw: Did Someone Say "A Party?" (from the liner notes: "Did Someone Say A Party? Few pertinent messages can be transmitted with such lightning rapidity throughout the length and breadth of a girl's college or any community of young people.") Jackie Gleason Presents: Velvet Brass and finally, two very strange ones: Ivor Biggun And The Red Nose Burglars: The Winker's Album (misprint) (appears to be some sort of raunchy comedy album) and Anthony Ventura And His Orchestra: Music For Making Love (the cover of which is a nice soft focus photo of two nude women in bed together. The album features such well-known love songs as Bridge Over Troubled Water, Johnny Guitar, Hotel California, In The Ghetto, A Whiter Shade Of Pale, and Je t'aime. I'm hoping for lush orchestral arrangements.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) new Califone record players (was: CD vs LP) Date: 12 Dec 2000 21:48:53 -0500 >I recommend picking up a turntable cheap at ebay, then get the >cartridge at www.garage-a-records.com. They're nice people, >and they can get you just about anything you'd need to play >LPs, 45s and 78s. Sniffing around Stephen's recommended site, I find that Califone is apparently still making those tempting little classroom record players! http://www.garage-a-records.com/cali.html Also at: http://www.recordfinders.com/califone.html http://www.curtis-av.com/record.htm http://www.schooloutfitters.com/shop/1010W.HTML http://www.crestvisual.com/record.html http://www.nationwideav.com/pages/califone/califone-record_players1.html http://www.knowledgeplay.com/knowledgeplay/caf1010av.html And of course: http://www.califone.com/recplay.html Confusing differences of opinion on the specs. I suspect garage-a-records and recordfinders are closest to correct. It would be real nice to play 78s on... would this have the flipover needle? The prices actually look competitive with a lot of the used prices I see online. Do anyone of you Califone fans (I know you're out there) know how these new units compare to the old ones? Is the build-quality still good? My sensibilities have gotten warped enough that I think I would really enjoy listening to records on one of these, but my concern is whether it would put significantly more wear on a record -- compared to a modern magnetic cartridge turntable. I'd imagine the tracking force would be higher. Opinions or hard observations anyone? Questions, questions... What do you say, alternative audio gurus? thanks, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Hoyt Curtin appreciation Date: 12 Dec 2000 21:49:41 -0500 Here's a link to a nice appreciation (obituary) about Hoyt Curtin, the composer for the Flintstones theme and many other cartoons. Interesting insights - I never knew that the 'Jetsons' and 'Johnny Quest' themes were so difficult for musicians to play. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57406-2000Dec11.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift Stores Horrors Date: 12 Dec 2000 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) Hey someone always beats us to the punch. I went into a local thrift/junk store near where I live and found some great stuff. got em .50 cents each. The guy told me someone always come looking at the records on Wednesday's but didn't come that week. Someone from town who owns a records store. You see, by the time we get there on the weekend they are gone Domenic HEY Check This Out! Get Your Free Domain Name @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 19:16:13 -0800 (PST) CD’s have totally spoiled me. I love the lack of background noise. When I can hear the background noise. The needle going over the records reminds me of a plow furrowing a field. Just my opinion. Flames on! Domenic HEY Check This Out! Get Your Free Domain Name @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift Stores Horrors Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:19:58 -0500 > Ever wonder where all those Elvis albums are?? I'm sure that there are some unscrupolous thrift-store employees, but there may be another explanation for why you can't find the valuable records. I've done volunteer work for Goodwill, helping them sort records. There are many Goodwill stores in the metropolitan area where I live. When a single store collects donated items, those items are not placed immediately in the store - instead they are trucked to a central facility where all items are sorted. At this location, volunteers will inspect every record - and those without visible scratches would be set aside for the annual used book/record sale. Also set aside were records with known collector value. At this location, ALL Elvis Presley and Beatle records were set aside, regardless of physical condition. Those which were common or had some scratches were set aside in a different area, where they would be taken back to the individual thrifts where they are generally sold for $1 each. Thus, you may donate a whole box of Elvis or James Brown records at a certain thrift store - but the record may never be sold at that location ... it might eventually be sold for $1 at a location 40 miles away. The records set aside for the big sale are priced by people who are knowledgable about records - and several price guides are always nearby to assist them. When these record sales are held, record dealers are among the people who show up. They know that they can still get a good price on a record, and that it won't be trashed or overly scratched. They don't mind paying $5-10 for a record if they know they can sell it at a higher price in their store. The main purpose of a thrift is NOT to provide a source for the collectible market - it is usually to raise money which can help support the goals of the charity organization. Goodwill would prefer to raise $10 by selling a record versus getting only $1 for it, and fortunately they have a group of volunteers that can help them achieve this goal. This is good news for Goodwill and the people it serves, but not for the common record fan who has dreams of finding the Beatles Butcher Block LP for $1. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Accidental Thrift Store Scores.... help? Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:27:32 -0500 At 02:29 AM 12/13/00 -0000, naile trismegistus wrote: > > If anybody can >tell me anything about these, I'd love some opinions. > >Constellation: An Introduction To Essential Stereo >(I'm dying to hear the tracks by "Big Ben Hawaiian Band" and "Manuel And The >Music Of The Mountains") I had a sampler once with a cut by the Big Ben Hawaiian Band and it was amazing and surprising and even original. For what that's worth. And I had a record by Manuel called "Exotica" and it was almost as good as string-laden exotica gets. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) clarification Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:39:12 -0500 My last post about Goodwill records and sorting was a bit confusing ... too much cutting and pasting and not enough re-reading on my part -- sorry! The collectible Elvis's and Beatles and James Brown were set aside for the big annual sale .... and never made it back to the individual thrift stores. The records that made it back to the stores were the very common ones, or others that had noticeable scratches on them. Billy Joel records are way too common - us volunteers would have a small contest to see who was the first to see a copy of Joel's 'Glass Houses' By the way, volunteering did NOT mean that we could simply flip quickly through the boxes of donated records, looking for the neat and rare ones. It meant taking a stack of records, and visually inspecting EVERY record for scratches .... even the Billy Joels, the Streisands andthe John Denver. ....and then when you worked your way through one stack, you started on another one filled with more Joels and Streisands and Denvers. It does get monotonous, but it is fun when you see a somewhat rare record and you could pull it aside for the big sale. It does feel good when I see that my knowledge of records is actually helping a worthwhile organization. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Origins of popular music Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:16:19 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:36:06 -0800 (PST) >From: chuck >Subject: RE: (exotica) Gentle Waves > >I find it difficult to understand the origins and extent of >influences of music culture. Certainly it has become accepted that >the banjo and African influences plus European folk music came over >and lead to many 1900 folk songs whether they were soul ballads or >country ballads. Did this lead to the pop music of the 1920's, I >think so but I'm guessing. Popular music of the 20s came out of Ragtime and Tin Pan Alley tunes. This was an interesting form of music, because it was the first to be spread entirely by commercial marketing. Before records were popular, sheet music was the medium of distribution. People would go to the store to buy the latest tune's sheet music the way we go to the store to buy the latest CDs. The competition for the sheet music market speeded up the development of ragtime music much faster than folk music could have ever evolved through the performance tradition. The ultimate product of this rapid growth was jazz. Ragtime and Tin Pan Alley called upon a wide range of music brought to the US by immigrants from all over the world. That's it in a nutshell as I understand it. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) CD Logistics Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:19:52 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:44:51 -0500 >From: alan zweig >Subject: Re: (exotica) jewel cases (was: CD vs LP) > >The "logical" mode for CD's would be for everyone to have those 200 CD >changers which are becoming more and more common and more and more cheap. I have one of those... The trick is figuring out which of my 3000 CDs to put in it! Maybe I should buy 15 CD changers! See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Nitty Gritty Kitty Litter Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:34:24 -0800 >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:46:38 -0500 >From: cheryl >Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP > >As for Steve's theory that Discwashers work fine, well, once you've used >a Nitty Gritty, you'll never use a Discwasher velvet again - they're not >the same thing at all Actually, you're right... A Discwasher velvet is best for maintaining a clean record rather than cleaning a dirty one. I don't have a Nitty Gritty, so I don't know much about it. But one of the rituals of 78 collecting is washing your records. When I get a batch in, I sit in front of the TV or stereo and placidly wash records. (It's kind of soothing!) To clean 78s, I totally wet them on both sides with a sponge full of white vinegar, then I wipe them dry with another sponge. Then I wet them again with distilled water and wipe that dry with another sponge. Then I get the record totally dry using a soft bath towel. I've used this technique on some late fifties vinyl 78s, and it gets them sparkly clean. I haven't tried it on an LP, but I bet it would work. White vinegar is a good solvent to clean away grunge, but it's distilled, so it leaves no residue. The same goes for the distilled water. If someone has a dirty record they'd like to try this out on, let me know how it works. >And I don't know if anyone on this list would know if this is true or >not, but I was once told that if you played a vinyl LP more than once in >a row, because the vinyl heats up slightly while it's being played, >repeated playing could damage the LP because the stylus lops off bits of >vinyl if it's warm. I've heard that. Supposedly, you should let a record "rest" 24 hours between plays. I don't know how much stock I put in that though. When I was a kid, I had one of my speakers on the same table as my turntable. I realized that the acoustic feedback of playing bad music really loud was causing the needle to vibrate in the grooves. Records I played loud were wearing out, while records I played quietly were fine. I moved my speaker, and haven't had a problem with record wear since. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Condition of Vinyl Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:47:23 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:34:57 >From: "Daniel Shiman" >Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP > >And this leads me to a barely-related question: I'm not hyper-meticulous >with my records, but still I think only one LP has been scratched of my own >accord over years of constant use, banging, dropping, needle-skipping, etc. >But then how do thrift-store records wind up in such bedraggled condition? There are two reasons for that... Nowadays, all turntables use a very lightweight tracking force. Back in the fifties, a family might be using an old RCA Ortophonic cabinet model with a tracking force like an elephant. Groove wear just isn't a problem with modern turntables. Secondly, a lot of people were used to 78s. The grooves on a 78 are really deep and coarse compared to an LP. You can take a 78 and lay a sheet of paper over it and write on it with a ball point pen and it won't hurt it. You can hold the record with your fingers on the grooves without a problem. You can even scratch the damn thing with your car keys, and unless you really gouge it, it will play fine. When LPs came in, people weren't used to handling records the way we do now. They would toss sides on the record player and stack them up on the coffee table when they were finished. The change came with the audiophile percussion records. All of the technical mumbo jumbo on the covers was there to instill respect for the masterpiece of modern engineering you held in your hands. The notes told you NOT to play this fine stereophonic gem on your nasty old mono cabinet record player. Handle it by the edges and return it to its sleeve after playing it. The copy was written to inspire awe. Of course the kids kept tossing their Beatle records on the bedspread when they were done, and 45s were tossed into boxes without sleeves half the time. These records were considered disposable. That's why a lot of the "lounge" records you find from the fifties are in pristine shape, while a lot of the pop music from the 60s is all beat up. Dads knew how to treat a record! Thank God for Dads and Dad music! See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Califone Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:59:28 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:48:53 -0500 >From: "m.ace" >Subject: Re: (exotica) new Califone record players (was: CD vs LP) > >Sniffing around Stephen's recommended site, I find that Califone is >apparently still making those tempting little classroom record players! >It would be real nice to play 78s on... would this have the flipover needle? Yes. Garage A Records has replacement needles too. Sometimes on particularly worn records those flipover needles work like a charm. The amp in a Califone isn't the quietest though. They have a tendency to hum. I wouldn't use it to transfer 78s, just to play them. >The prices actually look competitive with a lot of the used prices I see >online. Do anyone of you Califone fans (I know you're out there) know how >these new units compare to the old ones? Is the build-quality still good? The same old quality. Those things last forever. The nice thing about those is all the speeds. A friend of mine had a 78 of Liberace singing Slim Gailard's "Cement Mixer Putti Putti". We would slap it on his surplus school phono at 16 and sit down for a half hour of delightfully bizzare entertainment! >My sensibilities have gotten warped enough that I think I would really >enjoy listening to records on one of these, but my concern is whether it >would put significantly more wear on a record -- compared to a modern >magnetic cartridge turntable. I'd imagine the tracking force would be >higher. Opinions or hard observations anyone? It would definitely wear out a vinyl record faster, but if you already have a good turntable, why would you want to use the Califone for those? For 78s, it wouldn't add any wear whatsoever. You could play them till the cows come home with no worries. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Surface noise Date: 12 Dec 2000 21:01:01 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:16:13 -0800 (PST) >From: "Domenic Ciccone" >Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP > >CD=EDs have totally spoiled me. I love the lack of background noise. When= I >can hear the background noise. The needle going over the records reminds >me of a plow furrowing a field. Do you own a turntable? If so, what kind? See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) CD vs. LP Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:05:31 -0800 Hey folks - this message is on behalf of Dave Bartell who is unable to post to the list re: mail editor problems. -Kevin I am still failing to post to exotica! Please post for me, even though I hereby disagree with you! ******************************************************************************** > You're kidding, right? Why in the world would silence, when designed > and desired by the artist, be less desireable than cracks and pops all > the time throughout the entire record? That's just crazy! Of course wear noise on vinyl is not a good thing. We used to spend big bucks on positive track tonearms, weight control, discwashers, etc to avoid it. And I like CDs - I'd add the scan and direct access to a track as some great features. That said, we're not kidding about good "noise". I like vinyl because it has a warmer, more organic sound than digital. Analog is what the audio environment is made of. CDs have to mimic that, then convert back to it. They do a good job, but have biases of their own. The human auditory system is wonderful at selective hearing; we can shut out noise. We've been trained to do so, so the noise doesn't enter our "negative space". I theorize that younger listeners aren't conditioned to do so, and the noise is an annoyance. On the other hand, for older listeners, the lack of ambience becomes a distraction. It is a primary role of Hi Fi to remove unwanted noise. But... Did you know that every room has its own ambient noise? In the film industry this is called "prescence" and wherever dialog is recorded, some "blank" tape is also recorded to capture that prescence. This represents "silence". When dialog is dubbed, this prescence must be mixed in, or the patched dialog would sound punched in, with audible rises and falls in the noise background. Many other examples. A massive concert hall (Kennedy Center?) was recently revamped to improve its acoustics. One school of recording places mikes at all instruments point blank, to be massively mixed, while another audiophile technique is to place two or three mikes strategically in the concert hall, to reproduce that experience. I have a bizzare recording of Beach Boys "Good Vibrations" recorded point blank with no reverb. It sounds wonderfully immediate -- and dead. > Ok... how many new LPs and 78s do YOU own? Maybe three hundred near-mint. db # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) The hunt... Date: 13 Dec 2000 01:59:30 -0500 I feel it IS true that the hunt is better than the capture. BUT, even when you do capture (which then brings that sense of "closure" to the event) something else almost immediately takes its place and the hunt begins anew. This, of course, brings you to the other concern. I always spend too much money on things I am sure I don't need--even to the point of buying doubles/triples (someone has to buy them, don't they?) of albums that I already have on CD or tape. Hummmm. I think I've just defined an obsessive/compulsive disorder that I am sure I already have/had (in double or triple....) Keep me posted on your disease and treatments...Inquiring minds want to know. Waiting for a miracle, landlocked in Ohio JW theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) Blood pumping... Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:10:00 -0500 Mo, surely you don't mean walking through the valley of the shadow of death....I am sure that would get one's blood to pumping. Just picked up 101's "Astro Sounds from Beyond..." and that gets the blood to pumping...Truthfully, I liked the CD, and prefered the Astro portion more than the bonus "erotic" numbers. Back to "Soothing Sounds for Baby" for me, all this talk has got me jumpy and I need to relax to some intense electronic exotica.... PS--also picked up the "Best of Moog" CD, which I am digesting being new to Moog, via Bob Moog, via Raymond Scott "Manhattan" project. Just to let you all know where I am "at" today....Subject to change without notice. Landlocked in Ohio, JW theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) Crops Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:25:56 -0500 Vern, thanks for the tip. I had been hand weeding for quite sometime, just the other day, and failed to properly clean my hands. That was embarrassing, as well as unsettling, to the rest of the members of the plant kingdom (phylum,class,order,family,genus,species...sorry, that Bio degree rearing its' ugly head again!) that I came in contact with on that particular day. My hands and my records thank you for their newfound sense of sterility....On a roll, landlocked in Ohio, JW theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: (exotica) quick billboard-related question Date: 12 Dec 2000 23:44:07 -0800 Hello folks, I'm busy compiling a couple of CDs with one track from each year I've been alive (don't ask), and I'm wondering where I can find online a quick and dirty list of songs. I've looked for a good Billboard-related site and came up with nothing. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 13 Dec 2000 10:12:18 +0100 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/12/0 2:40:44 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: > > >people who play LPs more than a hundred times are either 12 years old, > crazy, or DJs. > > Some of us crazy 12 year olds might just like the rekkid a whole lot. Still.... after 45 times of recieving the same information the referring parts of the brain start to crystalize and become somewhat deaf, no? Try playing a record for more than 45 times and you'll know what I mean. No - seriously... I just thought this was a - slightly - unbelievable story. A guy saying "if you use this machine each time you can play your records more than a hundred times". It was like saying "after more than a hundred times of going to the moon it becomes a bit boring". As if he had ever tried. Mo - the eternal child # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 13 Dec 2000 10:12:45 +0100 alan zweig wrote: > Quick, what's the name of the Godard film where Johnny Hallyday plays a > Belmondo-style gangster role? > Anyway in that film, Johnny is taking a piss beside one of the other > characters and he says (and I'm paraphrasing)... > "There are two kinds of men in this world. Those who wash their hands > before they piss and those who wash their hands after they piss. The first > kind want to keep their penis clean and the second kind want to keep their > hands clean". And is almost killed for that by the other man. Your memory seems to be better than mine. I have been trying to remember which film this is for two decades. It even changed my hand-washing routines since I saw it. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Condition of Vinyl Date: 13 Dec 2000 12:23:35 +0000 bigshot wrote: > > > There are two reasons for that... Nowadays, all turntables use a very > lightweight tracking force. Back in the fifties, a family might be > using an old RCA Ortophonic cabinet model with a tracking force like > an elephant. Groove wear just isn't a problem with modern turntables. Groove wear may not be such a problem, but stylus wear is... the stylus gets sharper with use, and sinks lower in the grooves - if it gets too sharp it will sink the bottom and trash the record by cutting out the bottom of the groove... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 13 Dec 2000 08:29:49 -0500 > It was like saying "after more than a hundred times of going to > the moon it becomes a bit boring". As if he had ever tried. I'm picturing a late 1950's guy, some hick from the backwoods who discovers a Playboy magazine and decides to transform himself into a 'hip' persona. He moves into a bachelor pad, buys a stereo and a few of the recommended records, and reads and learns the recommended methods to treat his three records and how to make a perfect martini. Then he invites a woman over, pulls out the LP 'Music to Romance by' , goes through the elaborate motions of cleaning the record to impress his date ..... makes the drinks ..... and then strikes out. He places the record back onto the shelf, and waits for his next date. Next week - different woman, but the same results. One month later - the same story. 5 years later he has played the record 100 times, and still has not found his mate - but in consolation, he still has a close to mint LP. Then he washes his hands and meets the woman who adores him and they live happily ever after. Not based on a true story, Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica)Tokyo & Hawaii Date: 13 Dec 2000 08:48:45 -0500 Hi there- Seems like I have a chance to go to Tokyo and Hawaii.....anyone have any tips re: clubs, rekkid stores, thrift stores, used bookstores, tiki bars, bars, toy stores, lounges, hotel interiors, populuxe...you know, the whole gamut of exotica and stuff. Thanx, feel free to contact off list. Am esp. interested in any lounge acts playing Honolulu 'tween Xmas and new years, or if there are any sites that would have entertainment listings... pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica)Tokyo & Hawaii Date: 13 Dec 2000 08:39:50 -0600 Hi Peter, There are several tiki bars/restaurants down by the Yokohama waterfront district. You will need to go there by train from Tokyo which is about a 45-minute ride. Describing how to get to these places is quite problematic even if you have an address since prefectures in Japan seldom have street signs and the restaurants are often hidden away in basements! Your best bet in locating clubs, rekkid stores, etc. is to get yourself a Japanese friend who's willing to play Guide-san for a couple of days and shepherd you around. This usually isn't too difficult since young Japanese are always looking for someone to practice their English with. Don't be afraid to play the Baka Gaijin (Stupid Barbarian). The Japanese expect you to be puzzled and lost in their country...hell, they like it that way. Also be aware that you will pay TOP YEN to visit exotic bars and clubs. I've been to one tiki bar in Yokohama called Hawaiian Restaurant, but I found it accidentally and couldn't tell you how to get back there to save my life. I've haven't been to the following tiki restaurant, so I can't vouch for it's quality, but it sounds pretty cool. Plus, there's an address: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Fuji/2185/yokohama.html If you want to stay put in the Tokyo area, you can always count on Trader Vic's at the New Otani Hotel to be your tiki home away from home. Again, very expensive. For vinyl and pop culture: There's a place I know where the Tokyo hipsters go called Shibuya! Twitch, twitch I highly recommend that you hang out there on a Friday or Saturday night so you can experience the feeling of being one tiny ant in an vast anthill of wacky oriental youth culture. Throngs of Japanese surfer kids wearing baggies and flipflops and sporting fake orange tans will surround you. Girls with green hair (on their head AND on their legs) wearing silver miniskirts and 12-inch platforms will stumble by, trip and break their ankles, then get put in an ambulance before your eyes. Don't miss it! I've found the following website to be one of the best online resources for Tokyo entertainment. For some truly hilarious insights into Japanese culture, make sure that you read the Rant & Rave section. Have fun and write us a 5-page report when you get back! -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare. A real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trevor Rigler Subject: (exotica) mini phonographs Date: 13 Dec 2000 08:33:21 -0700 m.ace wrote: "...Califone is apparently still making those tempting little classroom record players..." Just a couple months ago at the biannual (semiannual?, twice yearly?) record convention here, I saw a crowd of young hipsters in a corner, huddled around one of these things, auditioning prospective purchases. It'd be great to fashion a sort of reverse backpack, torso-mounted mini phonograph for checking out records at these things (and at thrift stores, too). Perhaps two little speakers could be attached to some sort of baseball cap, a la the 2-beer+straw hats seen on football fans. Nothing like a poorly-lit rented hall or thrift store to make visual grading a challenge! ---Trevor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) new Califone record players (was: CD vs LP) Date: 13 Dec 2000 07:37:16 -0800 Those classroom portables are great and I've noticed the prices coming down on ebay - a year ago, they were pretty hot. Other manufacturers are Audiotronics, Newcomb Audio - I recall a Hamilton model too. I had a phase were I went nuts for them and bought three within 60 days. I sold the Audiotronics to Will @ Show and Tell and am down to the Newcomb and my "dance model" Califone with detachable speakers. Great fun playing records on these workhorse machines. Now I'm after a mod little 60's model battery operated player to tote to record stores :) As far as this LP vs CD discussion goes, I'm missed much of it - I would think members of this list would need both. CD's for brilliant reissues like the Raymond Scotts Manhattan Research and LP's for all the great recordings that have not - and probably will never be - reissued on a CD. You are better off experiencing Subliminal Sounds or White Goddess (even with ittle surface noise) rather than not hearing them at all, don't cha think? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) new Califone record players (was: CD vs LP) Date: 13 Dec 2000 12:11:10 -0500 Basic Hip wrote: > Now I'm after a mod little 60's model battery operated player to tote to > record stores :) Dusty Groove has the "Vinyl Killer" battery-operated player back in stock (and they even have a picture of it on their web site now!) No, I don't work for them - I just send them all my money, and they send me music in return ;-) (or at least it seems like that sometimes...) cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 13 Dec 2000 13:48:11 -0500 At 10:12 AM 12/13/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: . It was like saying "after more than a hundred times of going to >the moon it becomes a bit boring". As if he had ever tried. So Mo, are you saying that you don't have any records that (you think) you've played more than a hundred times? If you really think you don't, I'm not questioning you. I'm just surprised you're so adamant about it. I wouldn't have much trouble saying that myself - except for the records I had when I was a teenager - but I'm surprised to hear your apparent assumption that we're all like that. I think you're wrong. More importantly, I HOPE you're wrong. And I don't think you have to be crazy to play a record more than a hundred times. In fact I actually kind of envy people who play individual records again and again. I feel like I've sort of become the opposite of that and I wish I could get back to that place where I loved a record so much I played it again and again. Rather than going "Wow that was great. Now let's put it away for a couple of years until we someday stumble upon it and try to remember what it is". Somebody on this list used the term "neophilia" to describe the phenomenon - or the disease - of always needing to hear something new. (Or maybe that meant always having to keep up with what was new. In which case, that's one disease I've been cured of...) I think my impatience with individual records - and CD's - is partly about the eclecticism of my taste and the fact that there's so much I want to hear (and sometimes own). But I have to believe it also has something to do with the quality of the stuff I'm chasing. I don't think this stuff is worth a hundred listenings. I loved Command records when I first heard them. But I did tire of them. I think it's hard to enjoy the playful ping ponginess of persuasive percussion after a couple dozen times. I don't think they warrant a hundred listenings. And that's also true of the groovy sitar laden go-go club soundtracky stuff I chase these days. I think the reason I'm always looking for more is because I love the sound and feeling of this kind of stuff but the actual pieces of music aren't substantial enough to warrant repeated listening. There's a shock of pleasure when you find the piece. "Eureka, it's more of that stuff I like!" But that's really all it is. More of that stuff. And then it leaves your system and you need more. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) into something radioshow Date: 13 Dec 2000 20:53:43 +0100 this show is running for years and never let me down. connected to the compost records label. on air every wednesday 22.00 to 00.00 cet (n.y 4.00 p.m., l.a. 1.00 p.m., tokyo 06.00 a.m. thursday) . livestream @ radio M94,5 munich ( http://www.afk.de ) into somethin' radioshow by florian keller & theo th=F6nnessen. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 13 Dec 2000 21:03:23 +0100 alan zweig wrote: > So Mo, are you saying that you don't have any records that (you think) > you've played more than a hundred times? > Somebody on this list used the term "neophilia" to describe the phenomenon > - or the disease - of always needing to hear something new. No, it's not that... it's really like I said it is: after 45 times or less I just can't listen to something anymore. It's over, it's painful, it's of no more interest. Maybe there are one or two cassettes I own, that I might have listened to a bit more often, maybe 60 times. Like my favorite cassette of all times, "Sven's Favorite Rockabilly and Western Drama", but they are the big exceptions. Or maybe I have listened to single songs more often, especially when I had to mix them in the studio, but they don't count. So you think I'm sick... I may have ADHD, a rare concentration disability, but what do you think of people in the 19th century in pre-recording days? They have heard much of the music that they knew just once in their lives! How precious these experiences must have been to them! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica)Thrift Stores Horrors Date: 13 Dec 2000 13:46:25 -0800 (PST) Hi Vern Thanks for the info. I called goodwill here and they don't hold a big sale of any sort on books or records. They further stated that donated books and records don't go back to the main office from all stores. Some stores yes, others keep the books & lps that are donated in that particular store. The particular store's I know well that keep their donated lps, in fact the one I got the Elvises at, when the box comes in the box goes out, (After it has gone to the back for "personel lp inspection") I am also concerned that most thrift store lps I see do not have the inner paper sleeve. Someone has even stolen those! I am assuming it is just good ole New Orleans banana republic style. Your explanation makes sense. Iwish there were book/lp sales here. Thanks Chuck --- itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: >When a single store collects donated items, those items are not placed immediately in the store - instead they are trucked to a central facility where all items are sorted. > > At this location, volunteers will inspect every record - and > those without visible scratches would be set aside for the annual used book/record sale. Also set aside were records with known collector value. At this> location, ALL Elvis Presley and Beatle records were set aside, regardless of> physical condition. Those which were common or had some scratches were> set aside in a > different area, where they would be taken back to the individual > thrifts where they are generally sold for $1 each. Thus, you may donate a> whole box of Elvis> or James Brown records at a certain thrift store - but the record> may never be> sold at that location ... it might eventually be sold for $1 at a > location 40 > miles away. > > The records set aside for the big sale are priced by people who > are > knowledgable about records - and several price guides are always > nearby to > assist them. When these record sales are held, record dealers are > among the > people who show up. They know that they can still get a good > price on a > record, and that it won't be trashed or overly scratched. They > don't mind > paying $5-10 for a record if they know they can sell it at a > higher price in > their store. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) into something radioshow Date: 13 Dec 2000 17:01:51 EST In a message dated 12/13/0 2:51:34 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >connected to the compost records label. Now THAT's a rekkid label. They have yet to let me down. Eclectic beat driven exotica/jazzy flavored danceable slightly experimental AND soulful. These guys get the job done...JB/no affiliation with 'em whatsoever # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) cd's vs. LP's Date: 13 Dec 2000 16:10:06 -0800 (PST) jschwart@voicenet.com wrote: > The present case is a completely inefficient design that takes up > as much practical storage space on my wall as an LP. Sometime soon >I'm inevitably going to have to buy little PVC envelopes and junk >the jewel cases, which will at least triple my storage volume, >though it won't look very pretty and will be hard to see where >things are from the spines. > I use those baggies a lot. I have the "flap down" type. The only problem is that sometimes the glue that holds the flap gets on the CD. And they wear out pretty quick if you use the same CD over and over. With this system I can pack a whole suitcase of CD's to take to the studio. Enough music to last a nuclear winter. Domenic HEY Check This Out! Get Your Free Domain Name @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Califone Date: 13 Dec 2000 19:21:18 -0500 >>My sensibilities have gotten warped enough that I think I would really >>enjoy listening to records on one of these, but my concern is whether it >>would put significantly more wear on a record -- compared to a modern >>magnetic cartridge turntable. I'd imagine the tracking force would be >>higher. Opinions or hard observations anyone? > >It would definitely wear out a vinyl record faster, but if you >already have a good turntable, why would you want to use the >Califone for those? Err, illogical fun factor, I suppose. Similar to how "Mars Needs Women" is most fun when viewed on a snowy UHF channel. But I wouldn't have as much fun if I was worrying that I was ruining the records. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Logistics Date: 13 Dec 2000 19:53:08 -0500 > >The "logical" mode for CD's would be for everyone to have those 200 CD > >changers which are becoming more and more common and more and more cheap. > > I have one of those... The trick is figuring out which of my 3000 > CDs to put in it! Maybe I should buy 15 CD changers! EXACTLY. My dad has one with maybe 30 CDs in it. And he never uses it. Right now I'm experimenting with MP3s. I've ripped my whole Xmas library to MP3 and use the computer as a constant Christmas jukebox. It works great. In fact, it's always on, so when I want a little bit of Christmas, I just click the receiver over to "Aux" and out comes pretty music. I can see spending some cash for a huge hard drive and downloading ALL my music there... At the quality I use, I figure about 75 gigs would hold all my current holdings (over 1000 CDs). But then i have MP3s, LPs and tapes... Sigh. There's just not a hard drive big enough. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Califone Date: 13 Dec 2000 19:21:18 -0500 >>My sensibilities have gotten warped enough that I think I would really >>enjoy listening to records on one of these, but my concern is whether it >>would put significantly more wear on a record -- compared to a modern >>magnetic cartridge turntable. I'd imagine the tracking force would be >>higher. Opinions or hard observations anyone? > >It would definitely wear out a vinyl record faster, but if you >already have a good turntable, why would you want to use the >Califone for those? Err, illogical fun factor, I suppose. Similar to how "Mars Needs Women" is most fun when viewed on a snowy UHF channel. But I wouldn't have as much fun if I was worrying that I was ruining the records. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Ruth Wallis "Boobs" is now an off-Broadway play!! Date: 14 Dec 2000 04:34:50 GMT In rec.music.dementia, boardwalk7@aol.com (Boardwalk7) wrote: >That's right, Ruth Wallis, of "Davy's Dinghy" fame, has now realized her >lifelong dream - her songs are part of a broadway revue. > >"Boobs: The Music of Ruth Wallis" is in workshop mode at the Pulse Theatre in >New York City, and an off-Broadway site is envisioned for next year. Six >actors and actresses will perform Wallis' best numbers. For more information, >visit theatre.com and type in the keyword "Ruth Wallis." (Typing in "Boobs" >won't work, for some reason they spelled it "B(.)(.)BS"). > >Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs LP Date: 14 Dec 2000 00:23:03 -0500 Alan wrote: > > Somebody on this list used the term "neophilia" to describe the phenomenon > > - or the disease - of always needing to hear something new. You mean like after two or three visits to record stores and just not finding anything and and realizing you won't feel any relief until you actually do get something? I know that feeling quite well but having had next to no time to set foot in a store these past months I may be (only temporarily I fear) cured... Moritz wrote: >No, it's not that... it's really like I said it is: after 45 times or less I >just can't listen to something anymore. It's over, it's painful, it's of >no more >interest.... but what do you think of people in the 19th century in >pre-recording days? They have heard much of the music that they knew just >once in their lives! How precious these experiences must have been to them! I think this can be better understood with an analogy. Rather than music think about travelling and how the first visit to an exotic place is mysterious and exciting but after time passes and/or more visits, you become accustomed to the workings of the place and gradually the excitement and exoticness wear off. On one hand it becomes a relief to realize you are becoming more comfortable with your surroundings but on the other hand the experience is never the same. Same goes for music and I think this is what Moritz is saying. Not that you cannot listen to the same thing many times but the effect just is never the same as the initial listening from a recording that really grabs you just the right way. As to always needing more of the same, it all that far off from any other form of addiction, probably not... Brian (outed addict!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs. LP Date: 14 Dec 2000 01:00:32 -0500 Dave wrote: >That said, we're not kidding about good "noise". I like vinyl because >it has a warmer, more organic sound than digital. Analog is what the >audio environment is made of. CDs have to mimic that, then convert >back to it. They do a good job, but have biases of their own. I really should recommend to anyone to listen to a CD on a decent player before falling into this trap and then make that judgement. And while you're at it put on a 24 bit mastered CD or HDCD just to add to the experience. (Cleve, you have to visit here and I'll give you a demonstration!) If you're someone who has a good turntable and doesn't hesitate to spend a few hundred $ on a decent cartridge, then the price tag of a decent CD changer isn't that bad, especially as the life of the laser is considerably longer than any diamond stylus! What I find most disturbing when I play records now is how much I notice the rumble coming from the record not being flat, or the low power hum coming out of the system as it is amplified with my low output but very detailed MC cartridge. These are sounds I didn't notice anywhere near as much in pre-CD days... Still I've learned to live with both vinyl and CD and its been some time since I bought CDs with any reluctance. I do understand people in the pro DJ business not liking the CD but the technology to "scratch" a CD is here today though I haven't tested the system out myself. There are people that won't play records as they don't want to wear them out and these people should find solace in the CD (especially the CD-R). Still, its a fact LPs are fragile! Let alone basic handling, there is the belief that tracking too light can be as damaging as tracking too heavy. Also there is the belief that playing a record over many times in a row heats up the vinyl and can ruin it. Then there is the argument that there are different qualities of vinyl itself, the older heavy stuff being better than the newer lighter stuff (not proven in my opinion) and the belief that European LP pressings are better sounding than North American pressings. This last point is something I always attributed to vinyl quality but later learned had more to do with the number of records pressed from a single master than the actual quality of the base material. There is no shortage of opinion on this subject but I'm still of the mind I don't need a DVD player since I watch films for content, not effects and picture quality, and I don't generally "collect" movies. But give me a year or so and you can be sure I'll be talking about the wonders of DVD just like I now am about CDs! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) cd's vs. LP's Date: 13 Dec 2000 23:35:09 -0800 Domenic Ciccone wrote: > And they wear out pretty quick if you use the same CD over and over. Obviously not a problem for Mo... ;-) I won't **buy** a CD unless I **expect** to play it at least 100 times... I have dozens of CDs which I "cycle" through ever year or so. I might get into a group I haven't listened to for a while and play and play all the albums until I move on (I've been in a Pink Floyd/David Gilmour mood of late, for example). -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) into something radioshow Date: 14 Dec 2000 09:28:00 +0100 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > Now THAT's a rekkid label. They have yet to let me down. Eclectic beat driven > exotica/jazzy flavored danceable slightly experimental AND soulful. These guys > get the job done... Here's the link to all of their shows on real player stream: http://www.intosomethin.com/radio.htm Jeesh, so much music yet to listen to; don't know how to listen to the same stuff just twice! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) seksu roba show pasadena 18th dec Date: 14 Dec 2000 03:08:49 -0700 sorry, i promise this is my last shameless plug for a while. SEKSU ROBA December 18 8pm Old Town Pasadena at OPUS Music store http://www.opusdisc.com/index2.htm 38 E. Colorado Blvd. (626) 685 2800 FREE! lots of theremin playing guaranteed! future porn lounge music for the 22nd century thanks and happy holidays from seksu roba http://www.seksuroba.com _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) About the Cuckoo Bird Date: 14 Dec 2000 08:07:43 -0500 This, along with other quality reasons is why I generally download up to 5 different copies of the same song I'm looking for. Then, when I find one that fits, I scrap the rest. Peter == How To Lay Cuckoo's Eggs A brief overview of how to lay your own Cuckoo's Eggs in the Napster nest. 1.Download and install Napster 2.Download or rip songs for use as eggs. 3.Edit the songs adding noise, sounds, and other info 4.Copy your MP3 file into the Napster directories. 5.Connect to Napster and start laying eggs # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) cd's vs. LP's Date: 14 Dec 2000 05:22:11 -0800 (PST) kevin@kevdo.com wrote: > Domenic Ciccone wrote: > > And they wear out pretty quick if you use the same CD over and > over. Humm, I wonder now what I was talking about? Someone here was asking me what kind of record player I have. A "Miracord custom made for Realistic", Ya Radio Shack. A loaner from one of our Exotica friends here who has been lurking for months now. And using the standard Rat Shack $20 needle. Sorry, but for me records can be frustrating. Even before CD's came out I was dissatisfied with LP’s because I could always hear the background noise of the medium. And records are just a way to get the music. And with talk about needles, stylist, balancing it’s all to much work and expensive. All I want to do is put the thing on and hit a button. CDs are great for that. I'm a good old fashioned lazy American Consumer! Domenic HEY Check This Out! Get Your Free Domain Name @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Brazilian segment of Almost Acoustic on WJUL Date: 14 Dec 2000 05:46:58 -0800 (PST) Hi everyone, I was at the WICN record sale late this summer. Kristen was picking up some great looking LP’s. So I struck up a conversation and found out she writes about Brazillian music. You can meet the coolest people at record sales. Hope you can tune in. It will be a learning experience for me and maybe for you too. _________________ Brazilian segment of “Almost Acoustic” on WJUL 91.5FM Saturday Dec 16, 2000 12-3PM Please join me, your substitute host Domenic Ciccone. Saturday Afternoon from 12Noon to 3PM as I welcome Kirsten Weinoldt to the “Almost Acoustic” program on WJUL 91.5 FM broadcasting from UMASS Lowell. Kirsten Weinoldt, born in Denmark, came to the US in 1969. Kirsten fell in love with Brazil as a teenager after seeing the movie Black Orpheus (Orfeu Negro). Writes about Brazilian music for the magazines Bossa and Brazzil (www.brazzil.com). Has written cover stories about 40 years of Bossa Nova, 1968 and Tropicalismo, Chico Buarque, Noel Rosa, and a variety of other articles about singers and Afro-Brazilian carnival groups. Works with Marlon Catao on concerts by Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Milton Nascimento, and others. Kirsten travels to Brazil twice a year interviewing musicians and attending concerts. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html(On Real Audio) HEY Check This Out! Get Your Free Domain Name @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Zweig Subject: (exotica) Url's galore Date: 14 Dec 2000 03:36:59 -0500 I'm going crazy. In hopes of figuring out why suddenly my computer crashes when you breathe on it too hard, we deleted everything and started over. And in the heat of the moment I forgot to back up my bookmarks. So I have none. Any urls involving records, vinyl, exotica, lounge, music, musicians, record labels. I'll ask other people for the porn. Thanks, AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: rated their records by looking at them Date: 14 Dec 2000 14:58:44 +0100 alan zweig wrote: >Last week records arrived from two different guys who rated their records >by looking at them. ONLY by looking at them. but that is the way ALL pro vinyl dealers do it!! it doesn't make sense. they always say they don't have enough time to actually listen to the record, to give it a reliable grading, and i can understand their point, but still... Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: More on CD vs. vinyl Date: 14 Dec 2000 15:11:05 +0100 Ross wrote: >.................................But after that, I really >became convinced that the absence of surface noise on a CD is >something that people too often take for granted. It really does make >a difference. i agree totally. the same happened to me: once i started cleaning up vinyl on my mac, i became much more aware of flaws in vinyl, even on records that sounded perfectly acceptable before. you sort of learn to listen differently. i'll ALWAYS prefer a CD over an LP: no pops, clicks, background/ surface noise, rumble, hum... but it's clearly a very personal thing. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) CD vs LP Date: 14 Dec 2000 12:48:15 -0600 I suppose time is right to post my latest recipe for vinyl cleaner: two parts distilled water one part denatured alcohol Yes, denatured alcohol means shellac thinner or alcohol stove fuel. I store my cleaner in an old saline solution bottle. Shake vigorously and squirt yer vinyl. Wipe with a low-lint cloth. This stuff definitely clears out mildew, if that troubles you. And yeah, I also wipe my records before play with that velvet thingy Stephen talked about. Became a convert to the Discwasher "Stylus Care System" too. (Why don't they just call it Needle Cleaner? That's like describing a student desk as a Homework Center.) BTW, I fall in with those people who prefer vinyl over CDs. In some cases, I think modern vinyl releases are superior--like ComEd's Impossible World. Anyone care to comment on Stereo Lab CDs vs LPs? Mini Mims who longs for a Nitty Gritty # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs. LP Date: 14 Dec 2000 13:51:41 -0500 At 1:00 AM -0500 12/14/00, Brian Karasick wrote: >I really should recommend to anyone to listen to a CD on a decent player >before falling into this trap and then make that judgement. And while >you're at it put on a 24 bit mastered CD or HDCD just to add to the >experience. (Cleve, you have to visit here and I'll give you a demonstration!) It's true about decent players, and about 24 bit mastering - infact, as Steve has pointed out, it's all about the mastering. CD's of contemporary material sound fine, as most are at least partially recorded in the digital realm, and almost every CD is mixed and/or mastered digitally. It's the transfer of older material, like Steve was saying about 78's which was all so true. The fact is that older records sound better than their digital counterparts. I've had people completely blown away by the difference in sound on, say, an RCA Living Stereo Esquivel pressing and a BMG CD reissue of the same material. The additional digital compression that's used in todays mastering sucks all the life out of these old recordings, which were mastered using tube compression. Tubes heat up, which is what essentially all the talk about the "warmth" of analog sound comes from. When you burn your own CD from a vinyl album or 78, you're probably not adding that compression. Mastering engineers in the U.S. overuse it all the time, and they use it out of habit rather than actually listening to what it's doing. It's still true in vinyl pressings today - the vast majority of 12" dance records that are mastered and pressed in the U.S. have a terrible compressed sound quality to them, while European and Japanese pressings are full of "air" and warmth. >I do understand people in the pro >DJ business not liking the CD but the technology to "scratch" a CD is here >today though I haven't tested the system out myself. Pioneer makes a digital DJ mixer that simulates the sound of scratching a record by flipping the crossfader back and forth. I've played around with it and it's pretty cool, but I'm not a hip hop DJ or a turntablist so I'd never use it. The reason that DJ's hate to use CD's is that it's a complete pain in the ass if you're trying to beat match. Vinyl is much more pliable and easy to manipulate. I have pro CD players with pitch control etc and have practiced and practiced beat matching on them, and they suck. Absolutely no substitute for vinyl. They never really start at the same spot each time - which is weird, because you'd think its just all 1's and 2's and it should, but they don't. And I've used about a half dozen brands of pro CD players. You can use the pitch wheel to play catch up or slow down with the beat, but it's not the same as manipulating vinyl with your hands or tweaking the spindle or any of the other tricks DJ's have learned to blend one record into the other. Of course, as JimmyBee would point out, there's plenty of CD megamixes out there, so you can play mixes and nobody knows. And all of this applies really only to dance music and not to spinning exotica, but I just felt like ranting a bit today as I've been DJ'ing holiday parties every night for the last week (with another week to go), using both CD's and/or rekkids, depending on the party. I like rekkids, but CD's are easier to carry around (and get stolen, as happened to me last week) br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs. LP Date: 14 Dec 2000 22:04:19 EST In a message dated 12/14/0 3:32:36 PM, bcleve@pop.tiac.net wrote: >Of course, as JimmyBee would point out, there's plenty of CD megamixes out >there, so you can play mixes and nobody knows. And all of this applies >really only to dance music and not to spinning exotica, but I just felt >like ranting a bit today as I've been DJ'ing holiday parties every night >for the last week (with another week to go)........... ............and you didn't even mention your DJ trip to Moscow with Thee Millionaire (where you guys have been reported by sources as having secured MTV superstar status and BEYOND!) And its true. There are plenty of megamixes, legit AND good in spades. And nobody knows when they're shaking their groove things on the floor. But if you wanna mix and match exotica with contemporary house, compost, bungalow and all the rest of the great stuff emerging today you have to learn to match beats. These pro CD mixers will give you BPM's (on CD's only, admittedly) simply by tapping your finger on a labeled button. If your tune starts with a beat, and not lushness and orchestration, you can segue tunes with a certain level of finesse and keep the groove in a reasonable tempo with CD's. Of course if you wanna give them a pure mix, missing not a beat, vinyl's your friend...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) book of tiki - another review Date: 15 Dec 2000 14:28:12 +0100 "The Book of Tiki" (Sven Kirsten, Taschen) has strong Aku-Aku Many Luxuria Music regulars will require no introduction to the dizzyingly inauthentic, American-born polyglot fusion of Oceanic styles that has come to be known simply as "Tiki": the graven images of scowling Polynesian deities adorn many an album cover and aloha shirt. Still, for the tyro and the aficionado alike, this book is an essential and long overdue addition to the canon of pop-cultural anthropology. Sven Kirsten's exhaustively researched coffee table reference work is almost dauntingly dense: an overabundance of imagery and ephemera that mirrors the post-war bounty that gave birth to the Cult of Tiki, the western world's flirtation with idolatry in suburban style. One might be forgiven for not registering, on first reading, the erudite trilingual essays on every aspect of Tiki, so visually overwhelming is this book. Taschen press has done a beautiful museum-quality job of reproducing the colorful drink menus, match books and print advertisements that lured patrons to Tiki-themed restaurants, the manifold incarnations of Tiki in mug form that tantalize present day collectors, and photographs of the Tiki architecture that, for a brief moment, sprung up in every climate and society. "The Book of Tiki" is much more than a high-end picture book, however. It preserves information as endangered as the culture it commemorates: drink recipes provided by Jeff "Beachbum" Berry (author of "Beachbum Berry's Grog Log"), some of which may be seeing print form for the first time ever; tales and biographical info on the colorful figures who created Tiki culture; and an insightful take on the origins (and future?) of this strange bastard child of the global village. Possibly the most difficult aspect of reviewing this comprehensive study of Polynesian pop is that it stands alone, unassailable. It's difficult to apply any critical distance to a work like this, and it's not that nothing else approaches its thoroughness or insight: the fact is that there is simply nothing else of the sort available. Whatsoever. Anywhere. Kirsten has literally "written the book" on a phase of pop culture that once encompassed architecture, interior design, clothing, music, food, entertainment and much more, yet passed from a ubiquitous vogue to decay and disregard without ever having enjoyed critical respect or even any substantial recognition. -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) A Very Schmalzwald Christmas Date: 15 Dec 2000 14:27:13 +0100 Ein neuer FEIERTAG! A VERY SCHMALZWALD CHRISTMAS im Roter Salon Volksbuehne am Rosa Luxemburg Platz Mittwoch 20 Dezember 2000 22.00 Uhr - doors open 21.30 - live show begins 22.15!! Fuzzy Love, Rajah Yogi, Record Player, and special guest Sir Spinner of Fine Vinyl (Toronto). The Schmalzwald Family have just returned from their Hong Kong tour to celebrate Christmas with their friends in Berlin. This is their first Berlin performance since September. They will bring gifts and good cheer from the Far East where they improved their Karaoke techniques through intensive, late-night research. Die Schmalzwald Familie ist gerade wieder zurueck von ihrer Hong Kong Tour, um Weihnachten mit ihren Freunden in Berlin zu feiern. Das Konzert ist ihr erstes in Berlin seit September . Sie bringen viele Geschenke und eine festliche Stimmung aus dem Fernosten mit und haben ihre Karaoketechnik perfektioniert durch intensive Nachtforschung in der sehr verbreiteten Szene dort. Gruesse El Gordo, Miss Understood, JJ und Herr Doppel-U # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Re: Fwd: FW: New Release by Serge Gainsbourg Date: 15 Dec 2000 07:00:14 -0800 (PST) Happy holidays, This may known to you lot by now, but nevertheless (I have been comatose: any recent mention of the passing into that good night of Hoyt Curtin who composed the Flintstones (etc.) theme?): > > > >From: "Hersch, Stephen" > >To: "'tbolvari@hotmail.com'" > >Subject: FW: New Release by Serge Gainsbourg > >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:47:14 -0500 > > > >Thom - Please forward this to [Mr Ben Waugh]. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: CD Universe [SMTP:nrbb@cduniverse.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:55 PM > > > To: Stephen Hersch > > > Subject: New Release by Serge Gainsbourg > > > > > > > > > Dear Stephen, > > > > > > We thought you'd be interested to know that the > new CD Les Talents Du > > > Siecle by Serge Gainsbourg will be available > 12/19/00. > > > > > > We have found that many customers like to > pre-order upcoming releases by > > > their favorite artists. At CD Universe, we make > it easy. Most new > >items > > > are released on Tuesday. As long as you place > your pre-order by 2 p.m. > > > EDT > > > (18:00 GMT) on the Friday before the release > date, we'll send your order > > > out on Monday, the day before the release date. > > > > > > We've got lots more great music and special > promotions on our web site, > > > http://www.cduniverse.com > > > > > > Here is the exact url: > > > > >http://www.cduniverse.com/asp/albuminfo.asp?lc=13847+774572&frm=mm_12-13-0 > > > 0 > > > to your featured new release. > > > > > > If that link doesn't contain updated information > use the following url: > > > > http://www.cduniverse.com/a.asp?a=Gainsbourg,+Serge&frm=mm_12-13-00 > > > We hope you'll visit us soon. > > > > > > Mary Hammett > > > Director, Customer Support > > > > > > If you no longer would like to receive emails > from CD Universe, click on > > > the link below. > > > > http://www.cduniverse.com/asp/email_remove.asp?x=114234892611 ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Weird children's record Date: 15 Dec 2000 12:52:18 EST I recently had an opportunity to look through a friend's records. He didn't have a huge selection but had a lot of unusual children's records that had been in his family for years. I pulled out a record called "How to Think" which was written and sung by Steve Allen. He goes over the parts of the brain in detail and delivers such memorable lines as: Thank goodness that you have a cerebellum If they ask you "just what is it?" well you tell 'em If you didn't have one you would surely lie there 'Til the buzzards came along and said, "Well hi there." Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird children's record Date: 15 Dec 2000 10:56:05 -0800 (PST) Alas poor Steve --- Pearmania@aol.com wrote: > ..written and sung by Steve Allen....: > Thank goodness that you have a cerebellum > If they ask you "just what is it?" well you tell 'em > If you didn't have one you would surely lie there > 'Til the buzzards came along and said, "Well hi > there." ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: (exotica) Juan Torres Date: 15 Dec 2000 18:57:27 Okay, someone please tell me about the mustachioed organist Juan Torres - I have 2 of his early 70's LP's on the Musart label. He dishes up some sleazy versions of The Godfather Theme and Last Tango In Paris. Sleazy in the best possible way. Other songs from the 2 LP's suffer by comparison, though still manage to occasionally summon up that desparately sought soft-focus boudoir ambience. Also any information about the aforementioned Musart label would be appreciated - I recall seeing it alot around here in Texas, and have always thought it was Tejano-oriented, but it was based in Florida, which suggests it may have also serviced the musical interests of the local Cuban and Puerto Rican population. Either way, it's not obvious from listening to Juan Torres just where his provenance lay... To make this more fun, I'll have a swig of Mad Dog (I'm reaching for it right now) every time I get a grammatically correct response to this post. Make me drink, seduce me. -Dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Exotica-related book bargains! Date: 15 Dec 2000 13:59:06 EST Figured I'd share some bargains with the list I found in a catalog I got from Nina's Discount Oldies. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but they're offering some deep discounts on some great books of interest to this list: * Album Covers from the Vinyl Junkyard, $9.95, #BK-537 * The Album Cover Art of Soundtracks, $9.95, #BK-641 * Hollywood Hi-Fi: 100 of the Most Outrageous Celebrity Recordings Ever!, $3.99, #BK-538 * A Stiff Drink and a Close Shave: The Lost Art of Manliness, $8.75, BK-450 * Cigar Bizarre: An Unusual History, $4.95, BK-545 * Hi-Fi's and Hi-Balls: The Golden Age of the American Bachelor, $8.75, BK-451 For what it's worth, I highly recommend the first two. Call 1-800-336-4627 to order. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Exotica-related book bargains! Date: 15 Dec 2000 11:28:52 -0800 (PST) I highly recommend the Album Cover Art of Soundtracks. I own lots of soundtracks and I wish I owned more of these. I also recommend http://www.hitchmagazine.com Really funny articles and I was impressed with the quality and the large number of album reviews of new releases, many of them in the exotica, with a small e, vain. Really a lot of new cd reviews! Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- RLott@aol.com wrote: > Figured I'd share some bargains with the list I found in a > catalog I got from Nina's Discount Oldies. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but they're offering some deep discounts on some great books of interest to this list: > > * Album Covers from the Vinyl Junkyard, $9.95, #BK-537 > * The Album Cover Art of Soundtracks, $9.95, #BK-641 > * Hollywood Hi-Fi: 100 of the Most Outrageous Celebrity > Recordings Ever!, > $3.99, #BK-538 > * A Stiff Drink and a Close Shave: The Lost Art of Manliness, > $8.75, BK-450 > * Cigar Bizarre: An Unusual History, $4.95, BK-545 > * Hi-Fi's and Hi-Balls: The Golden Age of the American Bachelor, > $8.75, BK-451 > > For what it's worth, I highly recommend the first two. Call > 1-800-336-4627 to > order. > www.hitchmagazine.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Logistics Date: 15 Dec 2000 14:31:32 -0800 >my current holdings (over 1000 CDs). But then i have MP3s, LPs and >tapes... > >Sigh. > >There's just not a hard drive big enough. Or you can do what I do, rip the cds to MP3s and then when you get 650 megs worth, you burn it to a cd-r and file it away for safe keeping. This is what I do everytime I get a new LP, I make mp3s for storing. I figure by the time im dead, I will have lots of music to listen to in my coffin. aaak, where did that come from? -jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: More on CD vs. vinyl Date: 15 Dec 2000 14:46:07 -0800 There are too many audiofiles on this list. I personally (and im sure you all want to know what I personally prefer) love music, and whether its a cd, cd-r, Lp, 8track, cassette, reel to reel, 78, vhs, beta, mp3, wav, aiff, edison cylinder,etc etc, isnt the point. Its that I have access to the music which I love and the music itself is what I want. the sound quality runs a far second to that. its all in the ear of the beholder. my 2 cents :-) -jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: More on CD vs. vinyl Date: 16 Dec 2000 00:36:48 +0100 jonathan richardson schrieb: > There are too many audiofiles on this list. I personally (and im sure you > all want to know what I personally prefer) love music, and whether its a cd, > cd-r, Lp, 8track, cassette, reel to reel, 78, vhs, beta, mp3, wav, aiff, > edison cylinder,etc etc, isnt the point. Its that I have access to the music > which I love and the music itself is what I want. the sound quality runs a > far second to that. > > its all in the ear of the beholder. My hand-counted vote for Jonathan in this election. -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "An exploration of the impact recording technology Date: 15 Dec 2000 22:01:35 -0500 An interesting book review about an interesting sounding book, which examines some issues that have been discussed here (though from a classical perspective): http://www.booksonline.co.uk:80/booksol?ac=003979852218698&rtmo=psp13Q4e&atmo=rrrrrrrq&pg=/00/12/9/bomusic9.html m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Califone Date: 16 Dec 2000 02:09:33 EST In a message dated 12/13/00 4:18:49 PM, mace@ookworld.com writes: << >... but if you already have a good turntable, why would you want to use the >Califone for those? >Err, illogical fun factor, I suppose. Similar to how "Mars Needs Women" is most fun when viewed on a snowy UHF channel. >> I gotta say that I love my Califone,though it's seen better days... time for a new one I guess... but it does have a cool sound all its own. I play scratchy old 45s on it, and they sound GREAT; way better (to my ears,at least) than those same records sound on an "hi-fi" system. It does tend to make things sound more "garagey", but sometimes that's a good thing. -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Critiqu@rium: review: Franco Godi: "Vip" Date: 15 Dec 2000 19:46:11 +0100 Critiquarium: Review: FRANCO GODI: "VIP, MIO FRATELLO SUPERUOMO" RATE: +++ good REVIEW: "Vip, my brother superman" is the English title of this full feature 1968 cartoon film by Bruno Bozetto, one of Italies most famous and productive film cartoonists. Outside of Italy, he's probably best known for his 1960 series of "Signor Rossi" short cartoons, but the music for "Rossi" remained unissued outside of Italy until 1999, when German label extra-ordinaire Crippled Dick Hot Wax surprised and rejoyced cartoon lovers world-wide by its release of the fantastic, happy, crazy "Rossi" soundtrack music. "Rossi" was scored by the same Franco Godi who did the music for this "Vip". Godi is mainly a very productive composer of commercials, which might explain the eclectic musical vocabulary he shows in both "Signor Rossi" and "Vip". He also has -- a must for the music of the comic cartoons of Bruno Bozetto! -- a wonderful, wacky, yet sophisticated sence of musical humor; that's "sophisticated" compared to Spike Jones of course. So, how does this "Vip" compare to "Rossi"? Well, "Vip" does contains the same kind of happy & catchy tunes with wordless nonsense singing (scatting) as "Rossi". But those fun tracks alternate with much more restrained pieces, some of them not happy at all. "In Cerca di Lisa" for exemple is downright depressing string music -- undoubtly fitting this particular scene in the movie, but not exactly what a "Rossi" fan would expect. The whole soundtrack consists of several series of such rather radical mood switches: between (a) lively/happy/nutty/poppy/catchy multi-instrument scat songs with odd arrangements, and (b) restrained/moody/serious/sad instrumental solo's in much more traditional cinematographic arrangements. The conclusion of yours truly, full-time exoticat & novelty nut: overall, this "Vip" is not as wild, wacky and off-the-wall as "Rossi", but it still serves well as a dessert. It wouldn't be fair though to compare "Vip" only with "Rossi". So (A) if you're a dead-serious soundtrack buff who thinks that singers going "hihi hihi, hoho hoho" are making a fool out of themselves, or that the inclusion of real-life snoring sounds into music is quite obnoxious, then you'd better stay away from "Vip". But (B) if you're open-minded and not afraid of frivolous music, you actually might enjoy this as a refreshing score, and you'll appreciate its slightly "schizophrenic" variety of moods and styles; actually, the radical mood changes might save you from dying by laughing. A bit more about my favorite tracks: 1) the "Vip" theme: a burlesque Las Vegas type of song, sung by one Herbert Pagani; both the theme melody and his voice remind me so much of the theme song from "Agente Speciale LK" 2) "Mendel": a sort of Charleston, and the funniest scatting song of them all (dzjem dedezjem, hehe hehe, ouwaha ouwaha, . man, Esquivel could learn a thing from Godi!) 5) "L'auto del Colonello": comedy crime big band pop-jazz, again with scatting. 9) "Adamo Jeppamela": jumping back and forth between Latin, Hawaiian, and light jazzy styles, with a hilarious scat: "cou-cou-cou, cou-cou-cou, cou-cou cou-cou-cou, etc". 11) "Pesci e mare": one of the restrained pieces, that gradually growes, with nice vibes, a heavily echoed vocal "tsjak" sound, beautiful whistling and wordless chorus, and -- best of all -- actual snoring zounds!! 14) "Minivip. Scappa!": frenzied bongo-driven orchestral Spage Age Pop, not unlike Bob Thompson, including typical scatting. 16) "Vip e la galleria": groovy nervous jazzy big band and organ. 18) "Terra e fuga Minivip": lots of breaks, going back and forth between circus music and Spage Age Pop, with a tipsy Swingle Singers type of scatting. In the end, my only real complaint is the short duration of this CD: only 31 minutes for 19 tracks. I wished they had included some of Godi's music for "La Linea" as a bonus. And don't forget: you can listen to all the tracks in RealAudio at CAM's web site! DETAILS: artist: Franco Godi title: "Vip, Mio Fratello Superuomo" label info: CD, CAM 498797, Italy, 2000 AVAILABLE FROM: CAM: http://www.camoriginalsoundtracks.com/ ____________________________________________________________________ (c) Johan Dada Vis radioexotica@yahoo.co Home Page with links to "Dada's Exotiquarium", "Zounds in cyberSpace" and "Virtual Fantastica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada1/ direcet link to "The Critiquarium" Reviews section: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/critiq/critiq.htm | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ritual of the Dead (was CD Logistics) Date: 16 Dec 2000 07:03:26 -0800 (PST) Jonny wrote: >I figure by the time im dead, I will have lots of music to listen to in my coffin. You know I think you are onto something here. Where is this music going to be 4-6 thousand years from now? Most likely gone and forgotten. So maybe we *should* be buried with our mp3’s and hermetically sealed devices and instructions to build/repair or power them. Exotica could be a big hit with archaeologists of the future! I’m sure they will imply that there was a lot of religious significance attached to the music. After listening to Les Baxter and Domenic Fontiere they might even think that this “Exotica” cult even engaged in ritual human sacrifice! I think it’s our duty to screw these people up. Domenic HEY Check This Out! Get Your Free Domain Name @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) cd vs vinyl...I agree Date: 16 Dec 2000 13:56:00 -0600 No matter in what genre it is played...it is the music we listen to...it's the emotional reaction to that sound that counts. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Hi HO Steverino Date: 16 Dec 2000 14:09:23 -0600 Speaking of Steve Allen, that guy had a few songs that qualified as exotica. Does anyone remember the song where he played the trumpet and laughed all the way through? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael D. Toth" Subject: (exotica) Optiganally Yours radio show - Dec.17 Date: 16 Dec 2000 15:55:15 -0400 FYI: Earlier this week I pre-recorded an hour radio special with Pea Hix and Rob Crow, more infamously known as Optiganally Yours. It will air Sunday night @ 11:00 PM Eastern on 91.3 FM WAPS in Akron, OH (simulcast in streaming audio on the Net at www.wapsfm.com). I guarantee you can't name a better Optigan/guitar pop duo than these guys, and I seriously doubt you can name many (any?) current artists who are making music this fun and interesting. Perhaps my favorite current musical act, they combine ingenious pop hooks and intriguing lyrics with irresistable harmonic vocals and instrumentation ranging from the ginchily zonky to the beautifully sublime. Hey, I further dare you to name a more overall *ginchily zonky* act making music today!!! Hear wonders from the two OY albums, plus rarities from compilations and the www.optigan.com Web site. Not only will Pea explain the bizarre 1970 Mattel analogue sampling technology of the Optigan keyboard, but you'll hear about OY's relationship with the Powerpuff Girls, Pea's Ron Mael aspirations, the scoop on vintage Optigan maestro Johnny Largo and Johnny's Christmas recordings, and *more*! Every Sunday night, the Beyondo Mondo Record Party airs from 11:00 to midnight Eastern, featuring yours truly, Tothar, and/or members of Tothar's motley DJ crew. Be there! Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com mtoth@neo.rr.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Casa Nostra" 12.15.00 Date: 16 Dec 2000 15:53:22 EST "Casa Nostra" airs midnight Friday on WMBR-FM, 88.1, Cambridge, MA at MIT http://wmbr.org "Casa Nostra", hosted by James Botticelli plays Loungecore, Breakbeat & House from the Bass Age, and specially selected bytes from the Space Age Green Velvet-Never Satisfied Bebel Gilberto-Sem Contencao (remix) Perez Prado-Pachito E Che Ursala 1000-Hip Length Jean Jacques Perry-E.V.A. Zeb-Spy From Cairo St Germain-Pont Des Arts Martin Solveig-Ebony (Clap Your Hands) Xavier Cugat-Brazil Ian Pooley-What's Your Number? Los Chicharrons-Summer Fling Tutto Matto-Can't Stop Balanco-Metta Una....remix Mongo Santamaria-Stoned Soul Picnic Stereo DeLuxe-Riddle Me This Chris Joss & His Orchestra-She's Loud Mario Scalambrin-Believe In Me Eccum-Melting Big Sexy-Another World Jon Cutler-Flute Pebbles Royal Jam-Kiss The Night Night Of Lego-When I'm With You Negrocan-Cada Vez # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: (exotica) Today's finds Date: 17 Dec 2000 20:54:33 +1100 Scored these on vinyl today for A$2-$5 each (US$1-$3 approx) Living Guitars "San Franciscan Nights" - loads of electric sitar 101 Strings "The Exotic Sounds Of Love" - Whiplash, Karma Sitar etc. !! The Button Down Brass "Everybody's Talking" Loa Admiradoes "Bongos/Flutes/Guitars" Nelson Riddle "Route 66 Theme and Other Great TV Themes" Robert Maxwell "Anytime!" I chanced upon a S/H record shop that had bought the local ABC radio stations easy listening record library. Many boxes to go through and no time but a quick look yielded these. Should I go back for more? Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Today's finds Date: 17 Dec 2000 02:19:44 -0800 At 08:54 PM 17-12-00 +1100, Philip wrote: >Scored these on vinyl [Los Admiradores, Riddle, Maxwell...] >I chanced upon a S/H record shop that had bought the local ABC radio >stations easy listening record library. >Should I go back for more? I would...and maybe you can get a deal on quantity, too! If these are in good shape, that is. Also, this may be a good opportunity to find some real interesting records which may not have been too popular. Promo copies often find their way into libraries but commercial release may never happen widely...thus the stations have them but few people do! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Today's finds Date: 17 Dec 2000 05:52:39 -0500 At 08:54 PM 12/17/00 +1100, Philip Jackson wrote: > >Scored these on vinyl today for A$2-$5 each (US$1-$3 approx) > >Living Guitars "San Franciscan Nights" - loads of electric sitar >101 Strings "The Exotic Sounds Of Love" - Whiplash, Karma Sitar etc. !! Good score. That Living Guitars record is a classic and I don't think it's exactly "rare" but I've never actually seen it again since I got my copy. In fact, I'd say it's more than a classic. I'd say that of its type, there is no better record. Yes admittedly it's a narrow genre but it's my narrow genre and I wish I had a bunch more records as good as that one. But I don't. In fact, I'd even say that it's better than "Up the Down Staircase" which finally arrived. And it's good too. But this one is at least as good. And way cheaper. IF you can find it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) chad and jeremy Date: 17 Dec 2000 06:41:17 -0500 Hey Chuck, what do you think of Chad and Jeremy? What about you Ben? If you've never bothered to pick up their records - and you like the soft pop stuff like chuck and Ben do - you owe yourself the favor to do so. And I haven't even heard their psychedelic classics like "Of cabbages and kings". Anyone have anything to say about that record? But check out anything by Chad and Jeremy. They sorta sound like the Lettermen (though I know that's not much of a recommendation for most of you). Some of their stuff was produced by Frank Hunter, which is kinda interesting. Happy festivus. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) wow I wish I was rich Date: 17 Dec 2000 06:54:37 -0500 Here's a record I'd love to be able to bid on: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=527319012 It seems to be an early record by the brilliant Stu Phillips. And not only that but it's also a Harry Revel thing. And not only that but it's "space-themed". Sometimes I hate that things like this are so "identified" that it has a reserve price around 20 bucks. Then again, a lot of things that you'd think would get past 20 bucks at least, stop at seven or eight. But not the Free Design. Every one of those buggers goes for over twenty bucks. Anyway, I thought maybe someone here might be enough of a "collector" to go after this record. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Babylon Date: 17 Dec 2000 07:02:53 -0500 Expanding the meaning of "exotica" just a little, let me recommend a record by a guy whose name I don't believe I've ever seen here on this list. Dr.John. And the record is called "Babylon". I think it's a bit obscure. I don't know if it's on CD. But it's really strange and mysterious and a bit different than his "normal" stuff - which is already different enough - and really, I recommend it to exoticacats, even if you didn't think you'd like the Night Tripper's other stuff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dada's Exotiquarium" Subject: (exotica) new in the "Disquarium": special feature list, with CHRISTMAS CDs Date: 16 Dec 2000 19:17:20 +0100 *** new in the "Disquarium": a first special feature list, with CHRISTMAS CDs http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) chad and jeremy Date: 17 Dec 2000 14:35:24 EST In a message dated 12/17/0 6:41:12 AM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >They sorta sound like the Lettermen (though I know that's not much of a >recommendation for most of you). You will find no better version of "The Bright Elusive Butterfly Of Love" than the one by Thee Lettermen...JB/don't be concerned, it will not harm you # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) to replace lost bookmarks... Date: 17 Dec 2000 11:44:29 -0800 I seem to recall someone on this list who lost bookmarks and/or favorites when transferring to a new computer. Here are some links...I updated them fairly recently so most should work. http://www.hubris.net/zolac/links.html Everyone else: Sorry for the intrusion! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?chazam=20dave?= Subject: (exotica) pour les exotiques parigots Date: 17 Dec 2000 20:59:20 +0100 (CET) Salut les exotiques français (comptons les rangs : un demi-douzaine, plus ?) voici deux soirées à noter dans vos calepins pour la semaine prochaine votre chazam ________________________ étonnant et dansable au batofar le 21 décembre ----> www.dansable.fr.st _________________________ et puis : FIN DE CHANTIER... DÉBUT DE... En plein coeur des puces de Saint-Ouen, Mains d'Oeuvres, nouveau lieu détourné par la création artistique, vous invite sur ses 4000m2 à fêter la fin du chantier dans un dédale d'espaces, dancefloors à tous les étages, performances embusquées, vidéos bigarrées, venez déambuler dans les couloirs à la recherche des bars...parallèles. DJ Chazam Dj San Patrick Dj Roussia Dj 028 Williams Traffic Soirée cinéfeel avec projection de courts métrages et clips Installation et performance de la compagnie Faim de siècle avec: - White Box avec le soutien de Devatec - Projection video de Zachary Shuman - performances. MAINS D'OEUVRES 1, rue charles Garnier 93400 Saint Ouen Tel: 01 40 11 25 25 Métro Porte de Clignancourt (ligne 4) ou Garibaldi (Ligne 13) de 21 heures à 4 heures du matin Tarifs: 80 francs / 50 francs sur présentation du flyer Plan d'accès : www.mainsdoeuvres.org info@mainsdoeuvres.org _______________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Pour dialoguer en direct avec vos amis, Yahoo! Messenger : http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) wallpaper Date: 17 Dec 2000 17:20:26 -0500 I'm sure you've all seen this but if, like me, you like to change your computer's wallpaper occasionally, to suit your mood or the season, you might want to be reminded of this gem.... http://www.arrowweb.net/frame/kmartin.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Links Date: 17 Dec 2000 19:36:04 -0600 Byron....this is a great list of links. Thanks Colleen Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) spot the tune Date: 17 Dec 2000 21:26:01 -0500 This is for a friend. I haven't seen the commercial in question. She said that it's a commercial for beer. Maybe for Guiness. People are on a train. And the music is opera. Beginning with a female voice and then a group of singers come in. I'm not sure it really IS opera but like I said, I haven't seen - or heard - it. So what is it? Or who is it? Does anyone even know what I'm talking about? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) I was misquoted Date: 18 Dec 2000 01:24:25 -0500 I was interviewed for an article about Xmas records. I know they should have interviewed one of you guys like Vern but hey, I live here and you don't. I like this part "But for Alan Zweig, the director of Vinyl... the appeal of Christmas music lies in its seemingly boundless novelty. "Christmas albums are ubiquitous. If you can imagine it, then it exists", he reports". But then she misquotes me. "rattling off a weird selection of yuletide kitsch, from goth rocker Nick Cave's A Bastard is Born this Day" to his own prized easy listening disc, "Start Up Santa". START UP SANTA???? That's Switched On Santa! I hope no one's out looking for the Start Up one. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) wallpaper Date: 18 Dec 2000 11:57:30 +0100 alan zweig schrieb: > you might want to be reminded of this gem.... > > http://www.arrowweb.net/frame/kmartin.htm pretty, but can anybody tell me what that sleeve cuff is she seems to grow on her right arm??? disturbed -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Chet Baker joke Date: 08 Dec 2000 04:06:52 I was reading bassist Bill Crow's column in in the MYC Musicians Local newsletter and had to pass on this great Chet Baker story. (Bear in mind that Chet personified the image of the jazz cat who was so cool he was on another planet most of the time): Chet was booked into a club where very few customers showed up. "I thought I had a bigger following than this," Chet said apologetically to the owner. The owner told him, "Don't worry about it. Business is bound to be slow: it's Lent." Surprised, Chet asked, "Man, are they still making that scene?" Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 08 Dec 2000 04:25:32 What are list members' favorite space age pop Christmas albums? Here are a few of mine: "Ding Dong Dandy Christmas," by the Three Suns Featuring some great Charles Albertine arrangements, with a terrific version of "Russian Sleighride" (from the "Lt Kije Suite" by Prokofiev) "Mele Kalikimaka," by Arthur Lyman To me, this is the one true lounge Christmas LP, although the "Bolero-ish" "Little Drummer Boy" at the end is truly scary "The Ventures Christmas Album" Every cut starts as a rock and roll cover and segues into a Christmas standard. Probably my favorite instrumental Xmas album Let's hear some others! Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) spot the tune Date: 18 Dec 2000 08:18:42 -0500 At 09:26 PM 12/17/00 -0500, Alan wrote: > >This is for a friend. I haven't seen the commercial in question. >She said that it's a commercial for beer. Maybe for Guiness. >People are on a train. >And the music is opera. Beginning with a female voice and then a group of >singers come in. >I'm not sure it really IS opera but like I said, I haven't seen - or heard >- it. >So what is it? >Or who is it? >Does anyone even know what I'm talking about? > Trying to recall the commercial, I think it's Carl Orff's Carmina Burana. Can't tell you which Orchestra/Chorus is performing it, though. Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 05:54:02 -0800 (PST) My all time is a Columbia Sampler from the early 60s, Jingle Bell Jazz, featuring such notables as Lambert, Hendricks & Ross, Miles Davis ("Blue Christmas"), etc. Ferrante $ Teicher's Adventure in Carols (prepared piano, Westminster). Shorty Rogers: The Swingin' Nutcracker. Ella Fitzgerald's Swingin' Christmas. --- Brad Bigelow wrote: > > What are list members' favorite space age pop > Christmas albums? Here are a ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Taub Subject: Re: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 09:12:03 -0500 Are there any Exotica Chanukah/Hanukah albums or songs? Searches on the = net come up empty. Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: (exotica) OT: xmas music marathon Date: 18 Dec 2000 10:05:09 -0500 I realize this is fairly off-topic, but I know some of you out there are big christmas music fans so.... If you're in the Boston area, or have a decent computer connection (I know *I* don't) please check out my holiday music marathon - You'll Shoot Your Eye Out! - this Wed. 12/20 from 7am-7pm Eastern. I'll be on the air spinning songs about christmas, snow, hanukkah, new years, winter, etc and slowly losing my mind. Mostly pop, punk, and rock but also jazz, rap, ska, electronic, spoken word and more. Fans of "outsider" music can rest assured I'll be playing BJ Snowden, the Kids of Widney High, Rodd Keith, Jan Terri, Jack Mudurian and some other goodies as well. From 5-6pm, garage music will be featured since that's normally the Psychotic Reactions timeslot, and the 6-7pm hour will be '50s and '60s pop of the sort I usually play on Music for Better Living. The station is WZBC 90.3fm, find the audio stream plus webcam ('nless it goes down again) at or check for more info. If you have AOL's instant messenger software, you can contact me in the dj booth at the name "wzbcdj." Make a request from halfway 'round the world! Happy holidays to you all! Peter ----- Music for Better Living Wed 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3 fm Newton/Boston www.hifibliss.com/mfbl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 10:33:34 -0500 A fave cut of mine is Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm's "Snowflake", a nice blend of choral vocals and guitar. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) The Yule Log returns Date: 18 Dec 2000 10:32:36 -0500 http://www.wb11.com/entertainment/holiday2000/yulelog.html http://www.wpix.com/entertainment/holiday2000/littlefire.htm http://www.wpix.com/entertainment/holiday2000/bigfire.htm The Yule Log Returns Not so long ago, New Yorkers sat around the hearth of their television sets to bask in the glow of the WPIX Yule Log on Christmas Eve. It's a tradition as tied to Christmas in New York as the tree in Rockefeller Center and Santa Claus at Macy's. In 1966 WPIX decided to offer a Christmas card to its viewers. Fireplaces, a symbol of warmth and home, are hard to come by in the metropolis. The station's general manager, at that time, Fred Thrower, thought of all the apartments that didn't have fireplaces, and decided a televised Yule Log might be an appropriate way for viewers on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day to hear Christmas carols and have a burning fireplace of their own. A camera crew was dispatched to then Mayor John V. Lindsay's residence at Gracie Mansion, where a 17-second film loop of a blazing fireplace was recorded. Since that time, the Yule Log, which we like to think of as the world's first music video, has been re-shot three or four times. First on film, then on tape and now adapted for the World Wide Web. Now, we are happy to present, back by popular demand, the WB11 Yule Log for the 21st century only on the World Wide Web. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Ford Subject: (exotica) introduction Date: 18 Dec 2000 09:45:36 +0100 Hello -- I am a new subscriber to his list, and I wanted to introduce myself. I'm a pianist and a Ph.D. student in musicology at the University of Minnesota. Although most of my research has been in the 1940s and 50s New York bohemian scene (jazz and the Beats), I've gotten interested in west coast TV and movie jazz (aka crime jazz) lately, which I guess is my intersection with exotica. Anyhow, hello. I hope it's not "bad form" for a first posting to contain a plug for something, but perhaps some of you might find this interesting. The Intergalactic Contemporary Ensemble (formerly the Minnesota Contemporary Ensemble), a chamber orchestra devoted (usually) to stuff like Nancarrow, Varese, and Messiaen, has just released a live CD called "I Dig," which contains mostly exotica and crime jazz (Mancini's music from "Touch of Evil", a new piece by Robert Drasnin, one piece by Les Baxter, etc.). You can read about it at http://www.icemusic.org Also, I just heard Skip Heller's new crime jazz-ish album, "Laid Bare," which I don't think has been released quite yet. (January, maybe?) This one consists of John Gilmore's readings from his seedy-underside-of-Hollywood confessional writings underlaid with Heller's own take on crime jazz. It is extremely cool and worth checking out. Phil Ford, U of MN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) introduction Date: 18 Dec 2000 10:56:45 -0500 Phil, Let me be one of the first of the multitudes to welcome you to the = list! =20 Crime Jazz is a regular topic here, so you will feel quite comfortable indeed. And we are always open to hearing new insights on the various = types of music we on the list have grown to enjoy. =20 Bad form doesn't seem to exist here, so thanx for the info on 'I Dig'. = See you around! visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 11:09:00 EST In a message dated Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:31:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Brian Phillips writes: << A fave cut of mine is Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm's "Snowflake", a nice blend of choral vocals and guitar. My favorite Christmas tunes are 45's found while looking for other stuff...A real goodie: Toni Wine's "My Boyfriends Coming Home For Christmas" on Colpix. Others when I get home # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) chad and jeremy Date: 18 Dec 2000 08:13:27 -0800 (PST) Hi Alan! This duo's greatest hits is something I listened to endlessly one year when I was a child. I played their greatest hits album so much, maybe 100 times, that I actually got bored with most of it. I never got bored with their song Summer Breeze or is it Summer Song? ( I'm not sure if I have played this album for 25 years!?) Former list member Jill Mingo, who I really miss on this list, knows about them. I was talking with a friend and told him I want all the psychedelic albums from soft pop bands and Chad & Jeremy top my list! Finally thrifted an album by them a few weeks ago, but I can't remember the title. So I read your post and went straight to cdnow. They list a cd called "Distant Shores" that had fantastic sound samples to it, though its hard to tell in short real audio samples. Do you know when this lp, Distant Shores was released? I'll probably search this one out on ebay. Now that you brought this up I MUST hear this cabbages lp. Thanks for doing this post Alan. Chad & Jeremy are pure soft pop for me w/o any sunshine pop influences. I want to hear Cabbages to see if they ever crossed the line into sunshine pop or even a rarer sound commodity, psychedelic pop. I think I'm going to buy this Distant Shores cd right after I hit the send button & go to favorites at i.am/deardeer and get my coupon. Chuck --- alan zweig wrote: > > Hey Chuck, what do you think of Chad and Jeremy? What about you > Ben? If you've never bothered to pick up their records - and you like the soft pop stuff like chuck and Ben do - you owe yourself the favor to> do so. > And I haven't even heard their psychedelic classics like "Of > cabbages and kings". > Anyone have anything to say about that record? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Jill Mingo Date: 18 Dec 2000 16:28:21 -0000 Has anyone heard Jill's band or album yet? With a song called Mingo-go. My mate has informed me that it is very odd. Charlie Editor C3 Magazine 3 St Peter's Street London N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 (direct) +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 (switchboard) Fax: +44 (0) 207 226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 16:54:35 +0000 Well of course there are Christmas albums by the masters: Esquivel - Merry Xmas From The Space-Age (Bar None, 1996) Arthur Lyman - With A Christmas Vibe (Ryko, 1996) But I think my favourite has to be: Travelin' Light - Christmas With Travelin' Light (Telarc, 1992) A selection of Christmas crackers arranged for tuba and banjo(!) - and man, it swings...! Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ This message was sent by Easymail - http://www.easynet.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayno" Subject: (exotica) Hi Ho Steverino! Date: 18 Dec 2000 09:28:13 -0800 Colleen Pyles wrote: Speaking of Steve Allen, that guy had a few songs that qualified as exotica. Does anyone remember the song where he played the trumpet and laughed all the way through? ************************************ Off the top of my head, I'm not familiar with the trumpet/laughing, but I know that the great man recorded a few novelty vocal singles for the Coral label. Two that immediately come to mind are "What Is A Freem?," a surreal parody of Arthur Godfrey's nauseatingly saccharine hit "What Is A Boy?," and "The Goo-Goo Doll," a juts-plain goofy song with sound effects. Let's not forget Steve's sidekick Louis Nye, who recorded a terrific tribute 45 (also on Coral) entitled "Hi-Ho Steve-O." Happy holidays to all exoticats & kittens! Wayno ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 12:51:10 EST In addition to the 3 Suns, Esquivel, Lyman, Ventures, and Ferrante & Teicher LPs already mentioned, these are some of my favorite Xmas LPs: Herp Alpert & The Tijuana Brass -- Merry Christmas Sy Mann -- Switched-On Santa The Moog Machine -- Christmas Becomes Electric Earl Grant -- Winter Wonderland Jimmy Smith -- Christmas Cookin' There is another moog Christmas LP by Douglas Leedy that's on my want list I also like the CD comps Yule Be Boppin', Hipster's Holiday, Christmas Cocktails (volumes 1 and 2). Some of these overlap material as does another comp called Yule Be Swingin' Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 18 Dec 2000 16:43:57 +0100 Brian Karasickt wrote: > Then there is the argument that there are different >qualities of vinyl itself, the older heavy stuff being better than the >newer lighter stuff (not proven in my opinion) o yes! most new vinyl i buy sucks. Right Tempo vinyl sounds great, but British releases (like Trunk) are crap: they give clicks & pops from the first time i play 'm. other exemples: "Bossa & Balanco", "My Delicious Spaghetti Western". and then there's those little white spots, i think they are paper fragments; they never occur on Command and other vinyl from that period. when i have a choice with a new release, i choose the CD, even if it costs more. did they lose the "art of making good vinyl" somewhere in the 1960's or 70's or what? Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotica-related book bargains! Date: 18 Dec 2000 16:54:07 +0100 do they have an e-mail address for overseas listees? thanx! Johan - - - RLott wrote: >* Album Covers from the Vinyl Junkyard, $9.95, #BK-537 >* The Album Cover Art of Soundtracks, $9.95, #BK-641 >For what it's worth, I highly recommend the first two. Call 1-800-336-4627 to >order. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 10:13:08 -0800 (PST) VARIOUS ARTISTS, "WORLD IN WINTER" on El/Cherry Red (1999) AKA EL CHRISTMAS, available by searching Cherry Red under labels at http://www.othermusic.com Again this Christmas this is my most played comp. I can't get Louis Philippe's "13th day of Christmas" out of my mind. Everyone I have ever played this song before for , except my girlfriend, just loves this song. I'll have to play it for her again because she has soft spot for sunshine pop. Valerie Masters's "Christmas Calling" sounds like a lost classic from 1965/66. While, HER's "Psychedelic Christmas" is a sublime psychedelic/pop romp. Momus does a great job also but my hats off to Mike Alway and El records for making the best sunshine pop Christmas lp ever! What a great album. Of course the very very best, creme ala creme Christmas lp always will be the Phil Spector's Christmas Collection. Darlene and Ronnie's voices are in fine form and the Spector "wall of sound" is in full throttle. These songs just are so full of energy that hardly anything compares to them. Also I should mention the song and various artists comp "Santa's Got A GTO" This is my favorite punk girl 3 chord rock Christmas song ever!! (As if I have a lot of punk girl 3 chord rock Christmas songs to listen to) The rest of the comp has only a few bright moments. I just thrifted, thanks to Mimi, the A & M Christmas lp. That great A&M sound with the Christmas vibe is a real winner. This lp has been my most played vinyl this season. My other most played Christmas comps are from Johan dada Vis and Ron Grandia. These are 4 different comps I would recommend to everyone on the list! Just got a great new Christmas comp in from Vern. This packaging has got to be seen to be believed! Another sure fire recommendation for Exoticats! The Hugo Winterhalter cuts are fantastic. Just thrifted Hugo's lp too. Thanks Vern!!!!!!! And my very very favorite Christmas song is the Blue Hawain's "Have Yourself an Exotic Little Christmas" from their fantastic "Christmas On Big Island", $10 at cdnow! I just can't believe how well exotica and Christmas go together. For me though, its not Christmas without Coniff! My little girl has been chanted by the Coniff Singers Christmas albums and will love them the way I do for the same reason I do, thats what I listened to as a kid. Also I have the Roches Christmas cd, which is overflowing with their Christmas harmonizing, but one song is sung in strong accent Brooklynese and its hiliarious. I also love the Big Band Christmas cds out. Get the ones that have "I Love the Winter Weather, (so the two of us can get together") and Little "Jack Frost (Get Lost Get Lost") if you enjoy great swinging big band vocals. Some really wonderful amazing vocals singing great (many unknown) melodies are to be found on these comps. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Orpheus on TCM (w/ a Godard tangent) Date: 18 Dec 2000 13:25:53 -0500 Jean Cocteau's "Orpheus" (1949) gets an airing on TCM late this Friday at 2:00am (eastern). Nat? Mo? Could the Godard film you were trying to remember be "Le Petit Soldat" (1963)? This is a rather blunt and nasty French vs. Algerian spy story. I don't recall if it included the exchange you recall, but I remember a scene where it could have happened. TCM lists this late Sunday night at Midnight. A strange programming choice for Christmas Eve! m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Exotica-related book bargains! Date: 18 Dec 2000 13:31:07 EST In a message dated 12/18/00 1:10:25 PM, quiet@village.uunet.be writes: << do they have an e-mail address for overseas listees? >> I don't see one, but the catalog does say, "Outside the U.S., please call (610) 649-7565." --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Best Christmas Albums Date: 18 Dec 2000 10:35:18 -0800 (PST) And it would not be a very special christmas in my house if not for The Rudy Ray Moore Christmas album or Andre Williams's exotic variation on The Night Before Christmas (Santa gets as good as he gives). ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Dean Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 18 Dec 2000 12:46:42 -0600 I have been lurking for years, just reading the digests. But I have made a good friend through the list (hey Chuck!) and now that I am un-digested I plan to participate more actively in the proceedings. I recently found an LP thrift shopping that I bought for the shiny silver cover, because the LP itself was scratched to hell and back. It was a wreck. But when I got home and played it , it actually sounded pretty good (no clicks or popping at ALL on some tracks, and just slight trouble on others.) The record was Bongo Rock by The Incredible Bongo Band, from 1972, and I am thrilled that I found it! It has a couple of heavily sampled break beats that I recognized instantly, but the Exotica content is even better: Disco Quality versions of Let There Be Drums and Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida. I will never pass up another record simply because the vinyl LOOKS trashed. paul dean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) introduction Date: 18 Dec 2000 14:34:58 -0500 At 09:45 AM 12/18/00 +0100, Phil Ford wrote: > >Hello -- > >I am a new subscriber to his list, and I wanted to introduce myself. I'm >a pianist and a Ph.D. student in musicology at the University of >Minnesota. I've gotten interested in >west coast TV and movie jazz (aka crime jazz) lately, which I guess is >my intersection with exotica. Anyhow, hello. Hi Phil. Are you related to Lou Ford? Don't often get a chance to make "Killer Inside Me" references but I figured a student of the forties and fifties and crime jazz would appreciate it. Is the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis? It must be. Minneapolis is the best used record store town I've ever been to. It also had the only all-78's used record store I've ever seen. But mostly I'm thinking of Hymie's. Is he still there? Please talk more about crime jazz. We need more of all the fake jazz forms discussed here. AZ > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) "Hooray for Santy Claus" MP3??? Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:07:03 EST Does anyone have, or know the whereabouts of, a MP3 of "Hooray for Santy Claus," aka that wonderful theme song to the timeless, enduring holiday classic "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"? The cheesiness of my 2001 Christmas compilation depends upon it. (Yep, you read right: 2001 -- I'm already assembling next year's.) Thanks in advance! --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Orpheus on TCM (w/ a Godard tangent) Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:19:30 -0500 At 01:25 PM 12/18/00 -0500, m.ace wrote: >Nat? Mo? Could the Godard film you were trying to remember be "Le Petit >Soldat" (1963)? No. It was in the seventies. Late seventies. Maybe so late that it was the eighties. POST Godard's classic period. You forced me to find a Godard filmography. I'm guessing that the film I was referring to was called "Detective" from 1984 but unfortunately there's no cast list at this website. Okay, had to resort to the imdb and here it is: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0089066 But they don't quote dialogue so I can't be sure. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:25:26 -0500 At 12:46 PM 12/18/00 -0600, Paul Dean wrote: > >I recently found an LP thrift shopping that I bought for the shiny >silver cover, because the LP itself was scratched to hell and back. It >was a wreck. But when I got home and played it , it actually sounded >pretty good (no clicks or popping at ALL on some tracks, and just slight >trouble on others.) > >The record was Bongo Rock by The Incredible Bongo Band, from 1972 I did the same thing but the copy I bought WAS trashed. Still I kept it for a year or so, hoping it would spontaneously improve. Tried to appreciate it for the odd passage that played clean. Then in the purge of 2000, it was sent back from whence it came. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) introduction Date: 18 Dec 2000 14:23:35 -0600 alan zweig wrote: > Minneapolis is the best used record store town I've ever been to. It also > had the only all-78's used record store I've ever seen. > But mostly I'm thinking of Hymie's. Is he still there? Sadly, Hymie Peterson passed away a few months ago. I believe one of his long-time employees has kept the store going, however. -Indy Rutks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Orpheus on TCM (w/ a Godard tangent) - Correction Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:33:12 -0500 >"Le Petit >Soldat" (1963)? >TCM lists this late Sunday >night at Midnight. A strange programming choice for Christmas Eve! So strange that I checked other sources and it doesn't look like it's really going to be on. Incorrect listing. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) chad and jeremy Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:37:31 -0500 At 08:13 AM 12/18/00 -0800, chuck wrote: >So I read your post and went straight to cdnow. They list a cd >called "Distant Shores" that had fantastic sound samples to it, >though its hard to tell in short real audio samples. Do you know >when this lp, Distant Shores was released? I just made a Chad and Jeremy CDR (actually half of one, shared with Peter and Gordon and a little bit of Herman's Hermits) and even though I do this basically to get rid of records, I decided to keep Distant Shores. I think it's from 1966. Of Cabbages and Kings is a big money record. Even on ebay methinks. I just tried to bid on their other "psychedelic" record on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=522139526 Thought I might grab it with just a few hours to go. But it seems the first bidder has a maximum that's a bit rich for my blood. But check out some of these titles: "Painted Dayglow Smile", "Pantheistic Study for Guitar and Large Bird". So yes I would say that Chad and Jeremy definitely had their psychedelic period. Distant Shores hints at it but doesn't quite go there. Still, it's a great record. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) "Hooray for Santy Claus" MP3??? Date: 18 Dec 2000 14:35:18 -0600 RLott@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have, or know the whereabouts of, a MP3 of "Hooray for Santy > Claus," aka that wonderful theme song to the timeless, enduring holiday > classic "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"? > > The cheesiness of my 2001 Christmas compilation depends upon it. > (Yep, you > read right: 2001 -- I'm already assembling next year's.) I've got 2 versions. I think I have the original version on a vinyl "Golden Turkey" compilation. (I haven't quite yet figured out how to transfer tunes from vinyl to my computer). The other version is on the CD "Hooray For Santa Claus", performed by Al Hirt (other tunes on the CD include "I'm Gonna Lasso Santa Claus" by Brenda Lee, "Must Be Santa Claus" by Lorne Greene, and "Santa's Coming In A Whirlybird" by Gene Autry). I could get 'em to you somehow by next year... -Indy Rutks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) cd vs lp Date: 18 Dec 2000 12:49:21 -0800 (PST) I saw this album Paul is talking about. It really looked gauged bad. If ever you get the chance, listen to one of Paul's cd comps mixed from various lps/cds. I have been lucky enough to hear Paul mix live and have some of his homemade mixes. They are to die for, fantastic voyages of sounds mixed with fantastic beats and/or sounds that you know you/ve heard what you're listening to but don't know where. He mixed some of Umiliani's moog sounds with easy/psychedelia breakbeat now sounds and I didn't even recognize the Umiliani!!!! Too cool Paul!!! I expect you will be professioally djing and mixing your own comps in a short time. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck > Paul Dean wrote: > > >I recently found an LP thrift shopping that I bought for the > > shiny >silver cover, because the LP itself was scratched to > hell > and> back. It >was a wreck. But when I got home and played it , > > it actually sounded> >pretty good (no clicks or popping at ALL on > some tracks, and> just slight> >trouble on others.) > >The record was Bongo Rock by The Incredible Bongo Band, from 1972 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Music vs Format Date: 18 Dec 2000 13:11:57 -0800 Hello, >There are too many audiofiles on this list. I personally (and im sure you >all want to know what I personally prefer) love music, and whether its a cd, >cd-r, Lp, 8track, cassette, reel to reel, 78, vhs, beta, mp3, wav, aiff, >edison cylinder,etc etc, isnt the point. Its that I have access to the music >which I love and the music itself is what I want. the sound quality runs a >far second to that. I actually agree with you that the music is what counts. The weird thing is, I've heard songs on CD that didn't really impress me, only to hear the exact same song on 78 or vinyl and have them really grab me. Music is like a plant... whenever it's repotted (from one format to another) there is always a chance that it's going to whither. Most of the time, music sounds more alive in its original format. I don't care about VU meters and charts. I care about the music itself. Unfortunately, there is a LOT of music that is only available on "obsolete" formats. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rino Vincken" Subject: (exotica) Italian films Date: 18 Dec 2000 22:11:14 +0100 Hello, we're all getting flooded by excellent re-issues of music used in French and Italian movies from end sixties/early seventies. But where can we get the films themselves ? Through swopping maybe ? I'm all ears and eyes. Rino cody@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Orpheus on TCM (w/ a Godard tangent) - Correction Date: 18 Dec 2000 16:30:09 -0500 >So strange that I checked other sources and it doesn't look like it's >really going to be on. Incorrect listing. Well, it actually is on TCM's schedule for midnight EST Dec 24th though that slot is usually reserved for silent films. I'll check with TCM programming to find out which is correct. LT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Italian films Date: 18 Dec 2000 13:44:19 -0800 (PST) This looks promising: http://www.wwvideos.com/press.htm --- Rino Vincken wrote: > ...But > where can we get the > films themselves ? > Through swopping maybe ? I'm all ears and eyes. > Rino > cody@xs4all.nl ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Who wants my records? Date: 18 Dec 2000 17:09:28 EST I don't have many vinyl LPs, but I don't have a turntable, either, so they'r= e=20 doing me absolutely no good. If you want them, you can have them, all for=20 free. The catch? 1) You pay for the shipping (your preference of methods). 2) You have to be able to convert a couple of these albums into MP3s for me=20 (I'd tell you which ones later), and slap the files on a CD-RW for me, which= =20 I'll include with a postage-paid envelope. And that's it. Here's the complete list: * "Something Festive!" (A&M Christmas comp w/ Bacharach, Alpert, Baja Marimb= a=20 Band, Sergio Mendes, Claudine Longet, etc.) * Esquivel, "Strings Aflame" (apparently, this one's fairly rare, or at leas= t=20 according to a current listing on eBay) * "Moog Espa=F1a" * Henry Mancini, "Our Man in Hollywood" * Billy Strange, "Secret Agent File" * Ramsey Lewis, "Maiden Voyage" * Mystic Moods Orchestra, "One Stormy Night" * Voices of Walter Schumann, "When We Were Young" * Santo & Johnny, "On the Road Again" * Paul Mauriat, "Love Is Blue" * Lalo Schifrin, "New Fantasy" * Martin Denny, "Quiet Village" * Esquivel, "Latin-Esque" * Johnny Puleo and His Harmonica Gang, S/T * Danny Welton, "Harmonica Hi Jinx" * Smoke City, "Underwater Love" * Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops, "What the World Needs Now: The Burt=20 Bacharach/Hal David Songbook" Drop me an e-mail if you're interested. First one wins. Thanks! --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Christmas Albums Framed Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:03:14 -0800 (PST) I have this framed on my wall on the right side of my Christams Tree! Christmas in Sweden is next to it. A Disco Christmas Album is nearby. Theres so many of these zany Christmas covers that this one just stands right out. Believe it or not I think I have 50 Christmas lps up on my walls. Took down the Halloween covers for Christmas things like Sy Mann, Phil Spector, Jack Benny, Joanie James, Grant's Store, Christmas 2001, Radio City Music Hall, Tijuana Christmas, Crickets Christmas, Various Disney, Hugo Winterhalter, Jackie Gleason Christmas, Liberache, Ding Down Dandy and on and on.... I just pop the albums out of the steel/glass frames and put in another one to change the feel of my pad. There are adorable albums hanging up in my little girls room. One of my favorite covers is a high school Christmas choral group dressed up as a giant "Christmas Tree" From a distance you think you are staring at a Christmas Tree, up close its another story. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- alan zweig wrote: > > I'm sure you've all seen this but if, like me, you like to change > your computer's wallpaper occasionally, to suit your mood or the > season, you might want to be reminded of this gem.... http://www.arrowweb.net/frame/kmartin.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) introduction Date: 18 Dec 2000 19:31:28 -0600 alan zweig wrote: > Is the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis? It must be. Well, there's more than one UofM, doncha know, but the campus in Minneapolis is certainly the biggest and best. > Minneapolis is the best used record store town I've ever been to. Amen, brother. It's also just a damn good vinyl town in general. I've been shopping at Let It Be and Oarfolkjokeopus Records for years and have scored many a rarity at somewhat-less-than-reasonable prices at both of these fine establishments. > It also had the only all-78's used record store I've ever seen. > But mostly I'm thinking of Hymie's. Is he still there? Hymie's gone, but his store lives on. Let It Be's selection of 78's is also very impressive. Check out their website: http://www.letitbe.com -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Chet Baker joke Date: 18 Dec 2000 19:43:06 -0600 Brad Bigelow wrote: > (Bear in mind that Chet personified the image of the jazz cat who was so cool > he was on > another planet most of the time) [heh] He also personified the image of the jazz cat so smacked out of his mind that he could barely hold his horn to his lips. -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) Italian films Date: 18 Dec 2000 23:29:10 -0500 >we're all getting flooded by excellent re-issues of music used in French and >Italian movies from end sixties/early seventies. But where can we get the >films themselves ? The best source is definitely European Trash Cinema who I highly recommend. I've been dealing with them for a few years and they're very reliable, reasonably priced and honest about the quality. There's a website at http://www.diabolik.demon.co.uk/ but despite the URL Euro Trash Cinema is in the US. The site lists only a *very* small part of what they have available; in fact there is no master list so the best thing to do is write or email with a list of titles that you're looking for. There may still be a printed catalog which is quite extensive and has lots of things you wouldn't otherwise know about. And don't be thrown off by the word "trash" since though they've got tons of exploitation/B-movie/low-budget/etc items ETC also carries a lot of rare Godard, Pasolini, Fassbinder, etc films. Lang Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Outsider Music Mailing List http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm Documentary Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 12/18/00 Date: 18 Dec 2000 22:09:17 -0800 The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 12/18/00 Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. Go directly to the show page here, http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Hit the personal Show pages here, http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp Christmas time is upon us and this time round I called up Dana Countryman from Cool and Strange Music Magazine to help me co-host this week's show. We have pulled some dusty records off the shelves, uncovered some sticky cassette tapes and rummaged through stacks of CD's to bring you a fun week of holiday music of the cool and strange variety. Now go find some miseltoe you big kid. Cheers! - Otis and Dana The Playlist: Red Sovine - Here It Is, Christmas Kip Adotta - I Saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus Martin Mull - Santafly National Lampoon - Kung Fu Christmas 7th Day Adventists - PSA Durwood Douche - The Christmas Gift The Bobs - Christmas in L.A. Oscar The Grouch - I Hate Christmas Riders In The Sky - Sidemeat's Christmas Goose Rod Rogers, Teri Summers and The Librettos - Santa Claus Goes Modern Slim Spincter - Jingle Bells (Something Smells) Brave Combo - O Holy Night Cha Cha Cha The Four Seasons - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town Bobby 'Boris' Pickett - Monsters' Holiday 7th Day Adventists - PSA Little Marcy - Suzy Snowflake The Waikikis - Sleigh Ride 3 Blonde Mice - Ringo Bells Hamsterdamned - Twelve Dazeuh Xmas Red Peters - You Ain't Getting Shit For Christmas Johnny Cash - The Little Drummer Boy Kirsten & Heather Mayne - Silver Bells Little Marcy - C H R I S T M A S Gayla Peevey - I Want a Hippopotamus For Christmas Slim Spincter - Santa Claus Is Coming Sherwin Linton - Santa Got a DWI Wayne Newton - Jingle Bell Hustle Claudine Longet - I Don't Intend To Spend Christmas Without You Free Design - Christmas is the Day Al Zanino and Cliff Juranis - A Message From Santa Ho Ho Ho! Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com Issue #19 is out now! WEIRD AL YANKOVIC is on the cover. This issue features a big interview with WEIRD AL YANKOVIC, as well as with VIC MIZZY and FAY LOVSKY. Other articles cover XAVIER CUGAT, JEAN JACQUES PERRY and the ONDIOLINE, records about DRINKS AND DINING, the career and records of SOUPY SALES, and much, much more! Our big catch this issue is an interview with the "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" girl from the Herb Alpert and the TJB LP of the same name!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chet Baker joke Date: 19 Dec 2000 07:50:20 EST In a message dated 12/18/0 8:43:13 PM, mjmarch@charter.net wrote: >(Bear in mind that Chet personified the image of the jazz cat who was so cool >> he was on >> another planet most of the time) >[heh] He also personified the image of the jazz cat so smacked out of his mind >that he could barely hold his horn to his lips. I once heard (here, maybe?) that all that Mexicali Brass stuff was money for dope # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) European Trash Cinema Date: 19 Dec 2000 13:47:48 -0000 Thanks to whoever posted about this site, what a great one. All those films which we have the soundtracks, if you can work your way through the translations. I can feel another magazine subscription coming on... Merry Christmas El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Valerio Longoria, et al Date: 19 Dec 2000 10:45:10 -0500 December 19, 2000 Valerio Longoria, Conjunto Musician, Dies at 75 By BEN RATLIFF Valerio Longoria, an accordion player and a prominent early figure in south Texas conjunto music, died on Friday in a nursing home in San Antonio. He was 75 and lived in San Antonio. Conjunto is a hard-driving dance music in which the accordion leads a small band that also includes the guitarlike bajo sexto and the drums. In the development of the music, Mr. Longoria was the next major innovator after creators of the form like Narciso Martinez and Santiago Jimenez. Mr. Longoria was born in Clarksdale, Miss., in 1924, one of nine children of cotton field workers, and spent his early childhood in Kennedy, Tex. He began playing accordion at age 7, and he was soon under the spell of Martinez, the accordionist who in the mid-1930's helped conjunto become a popular, working- class dance music and created a new, more indigenously Texas-Mexican style of playing the accordion, with fewer bass notes and more focus on the melody. Mr. Longoria played at weddings and parties in Harlingen, Tex., as a teenager, then joined the Army in 1942. Toward the end of his military service, he was stationed in Germany, where he played the accordion in nightclubs. In 1946 he was discharged and soon made his first recordings, for the Corona label in San Antonio. When he began his career, conjunto was strictly instrumental music, but Mr. Longoria sang with it, and through his influence singing became part of the genre. He originally played the standard prewar repertory of Texas border music — waltzes, huapangos and schottisches — but then began to add new elements. He learned the Colombian cumbia while living among Puerto Ricans in Chicago in the late 1950's, and after he adopted it, it became an important part of Mexican-American conjunto. He popularized, if not pioneered, the practice among south Texas conjunto musicians of playing the accordion while standing up and it is said that he was the first to use the modern trap drum set in conjunto, in 1948. Mr. Longoria created a different style of playing, improving on that of Martinez — "a smoother style, with longer extended runs," said Juan Tejeda, a conjunto music historian. He also sang while playing the lead line on the accordion, another innovation. His voice, more stylized and sophisticated than that of many other conjunto singers, was suited to the romantic bolero; when that style became popular in Mexico, he was among the first to play it in south Texas. He also popularized the canción ranchera, a sentimental song sung in waltz tempo. "He had a real spark to him," said Chris Strachwitz, who produced some records by Mr. Longoria for Arhoolie Records in the 1980's. "I believe he had one of the best voices of any of the singers from San Antonio." Mr. Longoria's other innovations involved the accordion. He turned around and retuned the reeds of the instrument to transpose them to other keys. He also customized them in a manner that he called octavación: changing the reeds so that single notes could be voiced in two octaves at once. Ultimately, he used three accordions in his performances, all in different keys: diatonic accordions in F and G, and a special chromatic accordion that he built himself. After living for a time in Los Angeles, Mr. Longoria moved back to San Antonio in 1980 and began a 20-year teaching career at the Guadalupe Cultural Center, where he taught beginning and master's-level accordion classes to more than 1,000 students. In 1986 he was awarded a National Heritage Fellowship Award. Mr. Longoria is survived by his wife, Rebecca; four sons, Valerio III, Alex, Juan and Flavio; two brothers, Steve and Rudy; and several grandchildren and great-grandchildren. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Valerio+Longoria%22 http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B99310 http://www.dallasnews.com/obituaries/240762_longoriaobit17.html ======== Paddy Chambers The career of guitarist Paddy Chambers, who has died of cancer aged 56, was the stuff of the 1960s rock era. A member of Paddy, Klaus and Gibson, his other bands included Faron's Flamingoes and the Big Three. http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,397709,00.html ===== Russ Conway, star of Sixties TV, dies at 75 The pianist Russ Conway, who was one the most popular stars on television in the Sixties and Seventies, died yesterday after losing his battle with cancer. He was 75. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/This_Britain/2000-11/conway171100.shtml ==== Vancouver Pianist, composer, teacher, Kathy Kidd died early Saturday. She had been diagnosed with cancer early in October. Kathy was a remarkable woman and a wonderful piano player who had a huge love for jazz, Latin and Arabic music. Kathy released three fine albums with her group Kongo Mambo, "Serious Fun", "Do What You Love" and most recently "Hajji". http://www.coolname.com/pipermail/maplepost-mirror/2000-November/002259.html ===== Libertad Lamarque Tango singing star of the 1930s who was forced to leave Argentina after a bitter quarrel with Eva Peron LIBERTAD LAMARQUE, who has died aged 92, was Argentina's first female singing star of tango; but after falling foul of the future "Evita" Peron, she was frozen out of work and moved to Mexico, where she became a popular actress in films and soap operas. http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/dt?ac=003989447804370&rtmo=LxL3GLSd&atmo=rrrrrrrq&pg=/00/12/14/db03.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Dean Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 19 Dec 2000 09:48:23 -0600 alan zweig wrote: >The record was Bongo Rock by The Incredible Bongo Band, from 1972 > > I did the same thing but the copy I bought WAS trashed. Still I kept it > for a year or so, hoping it would spontaneously improve. Tried to > appreciate it for the odd passage that played clean. Then in the purge of I think there are two kinds of scratches, "smooth scratches" that only bend the surface and "deep cuts" that slice right into the vinyl. I lucked out and got a copy with smooth scratches. I will look for these in the future. By the way, the Incredible Bongo Band deserves the name. SUPER HIGH FIDELITY!!! The production is fantastic, and the music is great. I love it. On the cover the name Michael Viner is prominent, it was recorded in Vancouver, released in 1972, but that's all I know. I am wondering, does anyone know if there's any more of this out there? The first cut is the deepest, paul dean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Ford" Subject: (exotica) odds against tomorrow Date: 19 Dec 2000 11:42:16 -0600 Thanks for the welcome, everyone. To all the radio DJs and assorted other media people who normally get comped for stuff: you should be able to get a comp copy of "I Dig." The album is on Innova, which is the American Composers Forum label. (An exotica album is sort of a departure for them.) The guy who runs that program is named Philip Blackburn, and he can be emailed at pblackburn@composersforum.org. >Hi Phil. Are you related to Lou Ford? >Don't often get a chance to make "Killer Inside Me" references but I >figured a student of the forties and fifties and crime jazz would >appreciate it. >Is the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis? It must be. >Minneapolis is the best used record store town I've ever been to. It also >had the only all-78's used record store I've ever seen. >But mostly I'm thinking of Hymie's. Is he still there? >Please talk more about crime jazz. We need more of all the fake jazz forms >discussed here. > I'm on the Minneapolis U of MN campus. I don't even own a turntable, so I didn't even know that Minneapolis is a good town for used/rare records. I am a slave to CDs, which are OK for mainstream jazz and classical reissues but, I'm realizing, not so good for exotica. Favorite new discovery: John Lewis's score to the film "Odds Against Tomorrow." (Well, that and the movie, too.) I'm a big MJQ fan, and I love this film's odd fusion of a crime jazz mood with Third-Stream compositional weirdness. Phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Chet Baker joke Date: 19 Dec 2000 11:45:47 -0600 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > I once heard (here, maybe?) that all that Mexicali Brass stuff was money for > dope Do you mean the "Mariachi Brass" LP that Baker played on? Yeah, I would strongly suspect that was made simply to earn drug money. I have a hard time picturing him recording tunes like "La Bamba" and "Tequila" for the sheer artistic joy of it... -- Matt Marchese mattm@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/mattm_americas/ Service Publications and Training, Silicon Graphics, Inc. "If there's no ear then there's no sound if there's no tree then there's no ground" -Imperial Teen *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Tracking down Italian films Date: 19 Dec 2000 11:49:20 -0800 >we're all getting flooded by excellent re-issues of music used in French and >Italian movies from end sixties/early seventies. But where can we get the >films themselves ? Another good place for obscure films is Something Weird . They've been offering an ever expanding collection of German and Italian crime films for years. They can be a little pricey though, but they have a lot of odd titles, and often offer box cover art if you find that appealing like I do. Plus plenty of sexploitation too. Luminous Films and Video Wurks has a ton of Italian films, as well as a lot of Euro Westerns. I've got a catalogue, and I go to the site and look around sometimes, but I've never actually ordered videos from them so I can't vouch for quality. Keep in mind that if someone doesn't have a title, it's likely someone else does. There are also a number of video dealers that don't have websites. I buy a lot from dealers who you have to do snail mail with. In fact, for example, it took me about six months to track down someone who could dupe me a copy of the original Cat People. And note that Anchor Bay Entertainment has been doing a lot of legit reissues of Italian exploitation films in the past few years -- though more in the horror/giallo area. Mr. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, crime jazz, free jazz, soundtrack music, and Now Sound, on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). http://www.supersphere.com Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at http://comm.lycos.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Tracking down Italian films Date: 19 Dec 2000 15:43:59 -0500 "F. Cobalt" wrote: > > Luminous Films and Video Wurks has a ton of Italian films, as well as a lot of Euro Westerns. I've got a catalogue, and I go to the site and look around sometimes, but I've never actually ordered videos from them so I can't vouch for quality. I've ordered from Luminous - the quality is so-so (I assume he's using European tapes, and transferring them to North American - PAL to VHS or whatever), but he has a lot of titles that you'll never otherwise find...He can take an awful long time to ship things, though. cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 19 Dec 2000 15:50:00 -0500 The Incredible Bongo Band had two LPs out - you have the first one. The second is called "The Return Of The Incredible Bongo Band", on GRT - I can't find a reference to the year on it. It's equally as good as the first - I think they were just reissued, so you can probably track them down. I saw a very obvious bootleg copy of the first album a while back, but I believe Dusty Groove carries the legit reissue (although I could be wrong...) And I can't recommend highly enough a compilation called "Kinky Beats" (how's that for a convoluted sentence?) It's on Lacerba, and has "Apache" by the Incredible Bongo Band on it, along with a whole mix of old and new beats. Still one of the best compilations I've come across in the past while... cheryl Paul Dean wrote: > By the way, the Incredible Bongo Band deserves the name. SUPER HIGH > FIDELITY!!! The production is fantastic, and the music is great. I love it. > > On the cover the name Michael Viner is prominent, it was recorded in > Vancouver, released in 1972, but that's all I know. > > I am wondering, does anyone know if there's any more of this out there? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Dark Side Of A Christmas Tree in the "Disquarium" with CHRISTMAS CDs Date: 19 Dec 2000 12:50:46 -0800 (PST) Hi Johan Your site is always fantastic. This new Christmas cds part is just great! I saw how high you rated Dark Side of A Christmas Tree! So I clicked on your Arf Arf Records link and emailed the guy and he said he had 3 copies left and would be happy to send one out before he got my check in the mail. In case any other exoticats have been looking for this comp I suggest going to the link below reading Johan's review and click on the Arf Arf link. The guy said the cd has been out of print for years. He also warned me how wild some of the songs are and I shouldn't let my 4 year old hear them. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Johan Dada Vis wrote: > *** new in the "Disquarium": a first special feature list, with > CHRISTMAS CDs http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Tom Waits tv from 1978 Date: 19 Dec 2000 16:28:56 -0500 I can't give you a precise airtime for this, as it's on PBS and will air whenever your local affiliate schedules it. If they carry it. Anyway, the "Austin City Limits" series will be dusting off a Tom Waits hour from 1978. Now there's a holiday treat. Watch for it this week, this weekend, next week? Somewhere around there. Even more than usual: "check your local listings." m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Quality of Vinyl Date: 19 Dec 2000 13:31:44 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Brian Karasickt wrote: > >> Then there is the argument that there are different >>qualities of vinyl itself, the older heavy stuff being better than the >>newer lighter stuff (not proven in my opinion) This is absolutely true. I distinctly remember when vinyl took a nose dive in quality. It was when the first oil crisis hit. The record manufacturers started buying up old records and melting them down to mix with virgin vinyl. The surfaces got a lot noisier. Around that time RCA came out with "Dynaflex" records that were touted as being wonderful technological breakthroughs... What they really were was records that had half the amount of vinyl. They warped and had noisy surfaces. The best vinyl was in the late fifties. The audiophile records at that time were big and heavy and had incredibly clean, precise pressings. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Dark Side Of A Christmas Tree in the Date: 19 Dec 2000 17:05:18 -0500 Erik should have mentioned that The Jethros, who have the best cuts on the CD, have a website at http://thejethros.com . They (he?) have a page with their/his offerings at: http://thejethros.com/Musix.html. You can get The Dark Side of the Xmas Tree II (CDR only for the moment) from there. lousmith@pipeline.com chuck wrote: > Hi Johan Your site is always fantastic. This new Christmas cds part is just great! I saw how high you rated Dark Side of A Christmas Tree! So I clicked on your Arf Arf Records link and emailed the guy and he said he had 3 copies left and would be happy to send one out before he got my check in the mail. In case any other exoticats have been looking for this comp I suggest going to the link below reading Johan's review and click on the Arf Arf link. The guy said the cd has been out of print for years. He also warned me how wild some of the songs are and I shouldn't let my 4 year old hear them. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Quality of Vinyl Date: 19 Dec 2000 17:08:23 -0500 i always liked the Dynaflex...i thought they sounded fine but then again i never had a great system and never owned audiophile records. and i especially liked "playing" them by bending and squeezing quickly, getting cool and exotic warpy sounds out of 'em. similar to playing a saw. i gotta start sampling it! bump >Around that time RCA came out with "Dynaflex" records that were >touted as being wonderful technological breakthroughs... What >they really were was records that had half the amount of vinyl. >They warped and had noisy surfaces. > ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) wow I wish I was rich Date: 19 Dec 2000 15:16:36 -0800 (PST) Hi Alan This is a wonderful record! I saw it go for big bucks and understand $100 and over is normal. I have it near mint. Its one of my favorite finds. Some time I'm going to frame this up in a guest room with lots and lots of Outer Space Albums. I have a lot of cds and records but I just don't have the time to absorb them like I did before I got into exotica. The cover is to die for on this. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- alan zweig wrote: > > Here's a record I'd love to be able to bid on: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=527319012 > > It seems to be an early record by the brilliant Stu Phillips. > And not only that but it's also a Harry Revel thing. And not only that but it's "space-themed". > Sometimes I hate that things like this are so "identified" that > it has a reserve price around 20 bucks. > Then again, a lot of things that you'd think would get past 20 > bucks at least, stop at seven or eight. > But not the Free Design. Every one of those buggers goes for > over twenty bucks. > Anyway, I thought maybe someone here might be enough of a > "collector" to go after this record. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Tom Waits tv from 1978 Date: 19 Dec 2000 19:20:03 -0500 > Anyway, the "Austin City Limits" series will be dusting off a Tom Waits > hour from 1978. Now there's a holiday treat. Watch for it this week, this > weekend, next week? I believe its on this Saturday. I saw this appearance listed on a page at the cdnow.com website that's quite interesting. Titled 'Seen and Heard' , it identifies many of the popular songs that one hears in commercials, movies, and tv shows so people can then goand buy the cds on-line. Sergio Mendes's 'Mas Que Nada' is currently listed for its use in the Nike ad. The quite lengthy e-mail link is ..... http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1153655041/pagename=/MN/PROMO/promo_in_the_media.html/promoid=882 I discovered a song here that I've been trying to track down for some time now. I became first impressed with it while visiting the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland - it was being used as background music for a collage of mtv videos. I asked several employees there what the song was, but noone knew. Turns out the song is Carl Orff's 'O Fortuna' , currently being used in a Guinness Beer ad. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Strouth" Subject: (exotica) Off Topic: Singer Kirsty MacColl dies Date: 19 Dec 2000 18:31:06 -0600 SO Sad, her and Julie London In one year.... Singer Kirsty MacColl dies MacColl was a much-loved figure in the music industry Singer and songwriter Kirsty MacColl has died after an accident on a diving holiday in Mexico. The singer was killed on Monday in the sea close to the coral island of Cozumel, off the Yucatan peninsula. Details are sketchy, but it is believed she was hit by a speedboat which was in an area reserved for swimmers. Her two sons were both with her in the water, but they are said to be unhurt. Their father and McColl's former husband, music producer Steve Lillywhite, has flown out to Mexico to comfort them. The daughter of folk singer Ewan MacColl, she is best known for her 1987 Christmas hit with The Pogues, Fairytale of New York, and the hit single There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvis. Once in punk band Drug Addix, her first solo release was They Don't Know, in 1979. It failed to reach the charts, but became a hit some years later when it was covered by Tracey Ullman. MacColl's solo career started when she split from punk band Drug Addix MacColl's other hits include a cover of Billy Bragg's song A New England, and a version of The Kinks' track Days. She also sang backing vocals for acts including Talking Heads, Simple Minds and Robert Plant. Her last album, Tropical Brainstorm, was a tribute to Cuban music, which had influenced her throughout the 1990s. McColl's manager, Kevin Nixon of Major Minor Management, who worked with her for four years, said: "We are absolutely distraught. "I was personally immensely proud to be her manager after being a fan for so many years before that." On Wednesday, BBC Radio 2 was due to begin broadcasting a documentary series she had made about Cuban music. She had recorded the series in Havana, interviewing musicians from the Buena Vista Social Club and Ry Cooder. The series has now been postponed and the station will consult her family to see if they want the broadcast to go ahead. A spokeswoman said: "We have decided to delay the broadcast of Kirsty MacColl's Cuba as a mark of respect until we have had the opportunity to consult the family as to their wishes. "We are devastated at her loss which is a tragedy for her family and has robbed the world of a major musical talent. She will be much missed." Ironically, the singer spoke about how she would spend this Christmas "with my family and friends" in BBC promotional material to accompany the series. This is the pho mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.4. To send a message to the list, email pho@onehouse.com. To send a request to majordomo, email majordomo@onehouse.com and put your request in the body of the message (use request "help" for help). To unsubscribe from the list, email majordomo@onehouse.com and put "unsubscribe pho" in the body of the message. -- ---> The revolution will not be televised...it will be webcast<--- while online visit: http://www.futureperfect.org http://www.stanridgway.com http://www.alliedchemical.com http://www.ultramodern.org end of transmission... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Up With People Date: 19 Dec 2000 19:40:36 -0500 There's a great article in the Washington Post today about the demise of 'Up With People' My favorite line: The inexplicably perky always have a way of creeping out the rest of the world when all they mean to do is bring cheer. My second favorite line: The world is made up of people who want to clap along and those who don't. Up With People never understood just how many, on principle, don't." Full story at ..... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24594-2000Dec18.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: Subject: (exotica) Orpheus, Charlotte & Cronenberg Date: 19 Dec 2000 19:22:54 -0800 I think the movie FOLLOWING Orpheus this weekend looks tres interresant! A young Charlotte Rampling hitchin' through Europe in 1969, I'm there. See blurb below. Music by Laurence Rosenthal, who worked on Fantasy Island and a jillion other '70's shows. And since Mike brought up Christmas Eve TV scheduling, the Independent Film Channel is showing 3 Cronenberg films: Rabid: Marilyn Chamber's armpit makes everyone in Montreal spit up their eggnog; The Brood: Great for reminiscing about how big all the kids have grown; Crash: Who needsh a deshignated driver? Gimme dose dere car keys and watch me wave bye bye...... Happy holidays, James-Yun Fat - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: Subject: (exotica) Orpheus, Charlotte & Cronenberg Date: 19 Dec 2000 19:22:54 -0800 I think the movie FOLLOWING Orpheus this weekend looks tres interresant! A young Charlotte Rampling hitchin' through Europe in 1969, I'm there. See blurb below. Music by Laurence Rosenthal, who worked on Fantasy Island and a jillion other '70's shows. And since Mike brought up Christmas Eve TV scheduling, the Independent Film Channel is showing 3 Cronenberg films: Rabid: Marilyn Chamber's armpit makes everyone in Montreal spit up their eggnog; The Brood: Great for reminiscing about how big all the kids have grown; Crash: Who needsh a deshignated driver? Gimme dose dere car keys and watch me wave bye bye...... Happy holidays, James-Yun Fat - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re: (exotica) Italian Films etc. Date: 19 Dec 2000 21:35:12 -0500 Rino wrote: >we're all getting flooded by excellent re-issues of music used in French and >Italian movies from end sixties/early seventies. But where can we get the >films themselves ? Through swopping maybe ? I'm all ears and eyes. French movies are available here in any corner video store.. one of the benefits of living in a French speaking place with a number of major film festivals. In fact, the best store one in town "La boite noire" (The Black Box) is just about the best video store I've ever seen... We're talking sections by director by country! They also sell films (now more DVDs than ever) by mail order and have a website: http://www.boitenoire.com As for Italian films I'd swear they are almost as many obscure ones out there as there are regular films from India! Must have been some serious output in the 60's & 70's. And most of them are very obscure and lots of them very extreme (Spain & Italy seem to have been the hotspots for over the top b-movies in those days). I've dealt with Luminous Film & Video Wurks in New York and except for one time when my order was almost lost always came out satisfied: http://lfvw.com But the films I want to get my hands on are German, particularly those with Gert Wilden sound or TV series we've heard scored by the likes of Peter Thomas or Berry Lipman. These are not so easy to find and believe me I've looked hard! I've found some good sources for more mainstream German films, that is if you think May Spils or Herbert Achternbusch are mainstream, believe it or not via Amazon.de! So any tape traders with similar interests please do let me know. You won't be sorry! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: Subject: (exotica) Orpheus, Charlotte & Cronenberg Date: 20 Dec 2000 00:01:07 -0700 jim gerwitz wrote: > Channel is showing 3 Cronenberg films: > Rabid: Marilyn Chamber's armpit makes everyone in Montreal spit up their > eggnog; there's a scene in this movie where a shopping mall santa claus gets machine gunned to death (accidentally) by the army. the film society crowd i saw this with cheered! mike ewanus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Incredible Bongo Band and Abrax scores Date: 20 Dec 2000 10:35:18 -0000 Got the Return of the Incredible Bongo Band lp today and was a little disappointed. Where the first lp is rough and raw, with a real edge to it, this lp sounds like a soundtrack or easy listening funk record. Nobody can really get the funk going here and the producer has gone for a smooth feel rather than the harsh funk sound of the first outing. Its still a pretty good record with a few breaks (one excellent one) but its definitely too late-seventies and not enough late-sixties. I also got a copy of the French lp Abrax vol 2. Very weird possible library record with a variety of almost funky cuts sounding like a mid-70s Duke of Burlington. Not brilliant but not bad. Charlie Editor C3 Magazine 3 St Peter's Street London N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 (direct) +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 (switchboard) Fax: +44 (0) 207 226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 20 Dec 2000 09:21:42 -0500 > when i have a choice with a new release, i choose the CD, even if > it costs more. did they lose the "art of making good vinyl" somewhere in > the 1960's or 70's or what? Not necessarily. Max Picou issues 180 gram vinyl of fine quality. Also, the Audiophile Blue Note reissues from Japan were fine indeed. I have a Hazel Scott reissue, "Relaxed Piano Moods", which sounds wonderful to this day. Chess' reissues of the 1980's all were great. I heard, with no confirmation, that some labels recycled vinyl by melting old classical recordings. I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. In your defense, I can say that some of the latter-day vinyl, just before the onslaught of the CD, really did stink. My copy of "Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Record" on Arista skipped mercilessly. Also, a Prestige reissue of Etta Jones' "Don't Talk to Strangers" had a defect in the first track that seemed to be on all the copies we stocked. So, as far as I am concerned, the first song goes, "Yes sir, that's my baby, No sir, I don't mean maybe. Yes sir that's my ba*tick*...wwwww" Brian Phillips. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 20 Dec 2000 14:43:52 -0000 I don't remember his name but there is a Chicago pressing plant owner who is Mr Trax Records - a local house label who had some outstanding releases and drove the success of early house music. Anyway, he is, it seems, a bit of a shark and regularly represses his artists' records without paying them but he often represses onto recycled vinyl - I assume he charges artists to destroy unsold stock and uses it to press reissues onto. Some of the records I own on that label are superb and often shake the needle, vibrate, make horrible noises and sound rough. Luckily that is the way they should be - part of the sound. I think Marshall Jefferson's House Music Anthem is the worst with a surface that looks like an arid dessert, off-centre hole, broken label all over the run-off area and a needle shaking track. Both sides are the same two tracks and the record came in a Macola disco cardboard sleeve (apparently he uses any old sleeves to put out the records). It was only when I read the story in a DJ magazine recently that I finally worked out why all those records sound the way they do. Charlie Editor C3 Magazine 3 St Peter's Street London N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 (direct) +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 (switchboard) Fax: +44 (0) 207 226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ultrasuoni Subject: (exotica) Italian MONDO EXOTICA a la Christmas Date: 20 Dec 2000 16:43:56 +0100 Hi you all, first of all Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Secondly: a huge thanx to all the people that keep ordering my book Mondo Exotica at Plastic.it. In case of interest this is to inform that: "Mondo Exotica-Visions, Sounds, Manias of the Cocktail Generation" (Einaudi Publishing Group), is a 550-page book just out in Italy. Francesco Adinolfi, the author, is Italy's most relevant expert on Space Age Pop, also hosting "Ultrasuoni (Ultrasounds) Cocktail", a radio programme live on air in Italy every saturday (9.40 pm-11 pm). Those who can read Italian or Spanish may appreciate: 1) A detailed history of Space Age Pop in Europe and in the Usa with exclusive interviews with Esquivel, Martin Denny etc. 2) An ultradeep and detailed plunge into the music of Italy's, Europe's and Usa's Spy, Crime, Secret Agents films and tv serial 3) Tens of records to cook, read, kill and make love by 4) A guide (alphabetical order) to contemporary Generation Cocktail's bands: from Joey Altruda to Mike Young. Plus tens of interviews (from Man Or Astro-Man and Combustible Edison to Montefiori Cocktail) 5) Chapters on Stereo Records; Rat Pack; Strip Music and Las Vegas Grind kind of sounds; Martini and other musical cocktails (from Negroni to Mai Tai), and many other exotic subjects 6) A very detailed history of Italy's Cocktail Culture (music & drinks) from early 1900's to 1960's La Dolce Vita 7) A history of Italy's most incredible 50's-70's b-movies and their music with exclusive interviews with: Umiliani, Piccioni, Fidenco and many other composers 8) The history of Italy's most flamboyant and exotic night clubs of the Fifties and Sixties with tens of interviews and comments from barmnen, club owners and original musicians 9) The history of the ambiguous and dangerous relationship between colonialist invasions (France, Italy, England, Usa, Soviet Union and Exotica) ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION 10) A 60-page chapter of discography (with label, catalogue number, original and reprint date of issue) and bibliography: FOR NON SPEAKING ITALIAN/SPANISH PEOPLE this chapter is worth the whole book. Many foreign people are buying for this reason. Check out for yourself. ORDER AT: WWW.PLASTIC.IT (just send an order e-mail and Plastic will answer back with all necessary details) Mondo Exotica swings, vespas, tikis and cocktails the reader to the limit. And it's a good opportunity to learn Italian... P.S. Write back if you have any question and last but not least: If you know of "other cocktail world denizens" please let us know, we will e-mail them news about the book "Mondo Exotica". Ciao # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Enoch Light on Vinyl Date: 20 Dec 2000 16:55:46 -0000 I see that a number of Enoch Light LP's have been repressed on Vinyl. Including 'Permissive Polyphonics', which Robbie recommended after I enjoyed 'Spaced Out' so much, Another one was 'Brass Menagerie 73', A great looking cover and a track selection that could be good, but it says 'number 3 in the Brass Menagerie' series, and I'm a little bit wary once you get past 2, even with Mr Light. So, how is it? TIA El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch Light on Vinyl Date: 20 Dec 2000 17:24:46 +0000 Quoting G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk: > I see that a number of Enoch Light LP's have been repressed on > Vinyl. I'm only aware of Permissive Polyphonics and BM73 getting the, er, "reissue" treatment recently. > Including 'Permissive Polyphonics', which Robbie recommended after > I enjoyed 'Spaced Out' so much I think I prefer it to Spaced Out - it's much more Moogy. > Another one was 'Brass Menagerie 73', A great looking > cover and a track selection that could be good, but it says > 'number 3 in the Brass Menagerie' series, and I'm a little bit > wary once you get past 2, even with Mr Light. > > So, how is it? There are at least three *extremely good* reasons for getting BM73: Season of the Witch (with Vinnie Bell's electric sitar) Theme from "Shaft" (with tablas!) Dick Hyman's "Explorations for Moog" (quite why this ended up on this LP is anyone's guess!) Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ This message was sent by Easymail - http://www.easynet.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Chet Baker joke Date: 20 Dec 2000 12:34:00 -0500 At 11:45 AM 12/19/00 -0600, Matthew Marchese wrote: >Do you mean the "Mariachi Brass" LP that Baker played on? Yeah, I would strongly >suspect that was made simply to earn drug money. I have a hard time picturing >him recording tunes like "La Bamba" and "Tequila" for the sheer artistic joy of >it... Well actually I can. But it's probably true that Chet couldn't. Maybe Chet was more "serious" jazz musician than the other jazz musicians who sold out and tried to make pop records. But of all the jazz pop "crossovers" - to use the kind term - the Mariachi Brass records are by far the most disappointing. They just suck. Art Blakey did an okay job of it. So did Oliver Nelson. And Joe Pass. And Howard Roberts. And then there's Bud Shank. And Stan Getz. I think most people would call Stan a real jazz musician. But boy he was good at selling out. His Bacharach record is a thing of beauty, not to mention all his bossa nova collaborations. But Chet couldn't do it. And I can't really blame him. But it would have been nice if he'd tried a bit harder. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: Subject: (exotica) Orpheus, Charlotte & Cronenberg Date: 20 Dec 2000 12:49:38 -0500 At 07:22 PM 12/19/00 -0800, jim gerwitz wrote: >And since Mike brought up Christmas Eve TV scheduling, the Independent Film >Channel is showing 3 Cronenberg films: >Rabid: ; >The Brood: >Crash: Or you could go rent Videodrome and go to the end and watch the credits and see my name come up. I know that's small of me to be proud of that but I'm clutching at straws today. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch Light on Vinyl Date: 20 Dec 2000 12:55:44 -0500 At 04:55 PM 12/20/00 -0000, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > , Another one was 'Brass Menagerie 73', A great looking >cover and a track selection that could be good, but it says 'number 3 in the >Brass Menagerie' series, and I'm a little bit wary once you get past 2, even >with Mr Light. Supposedly this is the good one. I have Volumes 1 and 2. They're all right but not as good as for instance, his "discotheque" records. And not nearly as good as Permissive Polyphonics or supposedly Spaced Out - which I haven't actually heard. But Vol.3 of this series is supposed to be the one that's all mooged out, which the first two volumes aren't. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Holy Heck! BEST OF 2000 Date: 20 Dec 2000 13:43:29 EST The TOP 10 BEST CD compilations of the year have been announced by MOJO magazine (Check-out #6! How did this get on a list with Bowie, Hendrix, The Supremes, and Iggy Pop??): 1. Jimi Hendrix - 'Experience' 2. David Bowie - 'Live at the Beeb' 3. Dave Godin - 'Deep Soul' 4. various - 'Harry Smith's Folk' 5. various - 'New Orleans Funk' 6. RAYMOND SCOTT - 'MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC.' < < < 7. Iggy Pop - 'Fun House Sessions' 8. The Supremes - 'The Supremes' 9. Otis Rush - 'Good Uns' 10. ESG - 'A South Bronx Story' . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Up With People Date: 20 Dec 2000 16:23:21 -0500 >There's a great article in the Washington Post today about the demise of >'Up With People' Favorite parody of them came from the Simpsons: Announcer: And now, halftime entertainment, brought to you by Up With Everybody! UWE: Hey, world! Take a walk on the wild side! And all the races of the world go, Do doo-doo, doo-doo, doo, doo-doo, doo, doo-doo... I suppose this is common knowledge but, there is an Up With People album from the sixties with Glenn Close on it, singing with the Green Glenn Singers. Do. Doo-Doo...(Dang, that IS catchy!), Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Milt Hinton, "Pops" Staples, Dotty Todd, Wilson Date: 20 Dec 2000 18:26:50 -0500 LOS ANGELES (AP) - Doris ``Dotty'' Todd, a concert pianist and singer who= with her husband, Art, had one of the biggest hits of 1958 with ``Chanson= d'Amour,'' died Tuesday. She was 87.=20 Todd was diagnosed three months ago with Alzheimer's disease.=20 Todd, who was also a popular performer on Broadway and radio in the 1930s= and '40s, debuted at New York's Carnegie Hall when she was 13.=20 She and her husband were nightclub headliners when they recorded Wayne Shanklin's ``Chanson d'Amour'' in 1958.=20 The two were married in 1941. They worked the lounge circuit in California= in the 1940s and '50s and also appeared regularly on radio.=20 They traveled to Hawaii in 1960 to open a supper club, but were lured back= to the mainland to work as headliners at Las Vegas casinos in the town's early years as an entertainment destination.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) - Wilson Rosaline, one of Brazil's most popular performers in the 1960s as a masked wrestling villain called= ``Executioner,'' died of gunshot wounds, media and hospital officials said Saturday. He was= 80.=20 Rosaline was shot seven times after arguing with a man who had struck his daughter, the O Globo newspaper reported. The man who he had argued with= shot him.=20 The Regional Hospital in Gama, near the capital of Brasilia, said Rosaline= died on Dec. 11, although the death was not made public until Saturday.=20 Rosaline was popular in the 1960s, the heyday of professional wrestling in Brazil. Fans would pack arenas like Rio's Aluminum Palace to root for stars like Mongol, Samurai and the Bronze Bull, and the Saturday night bouts drew huge TV audiences.=20 As ``Verdugo'' - Portuguese for Executioner - Rosaline fought dressed= entirely in black, with cape and a skull mask. Sponsors offered a prize to any= adversary who could take it off, but no one ever did.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D PARIS (AP) - French actor and filmmaker Gerard Blain, whose good looks and rebellious style drew comparisons to James Dean, died Sunday in Paris. He= was 70.=20 As an actor, Blain worked with France's New Wave filmmakers, including= Francois Truffaut, Jean-Luc Godard and Claude Chabrol.=20 France's Culture Minister Catherine Tasca voiced her ``emotion and sadness''= in a message of condolence issued Sunday.=20 ``It was a singular and rare personality that left us today,'' Tasca said, referring to Blain as ``one of the incarnations'' of the New Wave, who made ``ambitious films on delicate subjects.''=20 Blain got his start at the age of 13 in the French classic, ``Les Enfants du Paradis,'' but it was not until the 1950s when he was cast in films by= Julien Duvivier and Chabrol that his career was launched.=20 In 1958, Blain appeared in Chabrol's ``Le Beau Serge'' and in ``Les= Cousins'' the following year.=20 He eventually moved behind the camera, winning two Gold Leopards at the= Locarno film festival. The first came in 1970 for his directorial debut, ``Les= Amis,'' and the second came 1999, for lifetime achievement. Blain's last film, ``So= Be It,'' was released in France in 1999.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) - Edmund Ntemi Piliso, a saxophonist who= helped shape South African jazz, died Monday. He was 75.=20 He died after a long illness related to diabetes, South African Broadcasting Corp. television news reported.=20 Piliso, along with his trumpeter brother, Shadrack, helped create the= distinct sound of South African jazz by blending American urban big band music with traditional African influences.=20 His Alexandra All-Star Band was an essential part of the jazz scene in the early 1950s in Sophiatown, a black community whose very existence irked apartheid authorities. In 1955, the government forcibly removed the area's black residents and Sophiatown was razed to make way for a whites-only= suburb.=20 Piliso later thrived with African Jazz Pioneers as apartheid began to= crumble. After the international cultural boycott of South Africa ended in 1990, the group began traveling abroad to jazz clubs and festivals in Europe,= Australia, Japan and Africa.=20 One of the group's most famous compositions, ``Sip n' Fly,'' is a humorous= ode to sneaking alcohol past the apartheid police.=20 ``He contributed so much,'' said fellow musician Pops Mohamed, ``he was a school of our heritage in himself.''=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D LONDON (Reuters) - British singer-songwriter Kirsty MacColl has died aged 41= in a boating accident in Mexico, her agent said Tuesday.=20 It is believed the daughter of folk singer Ewan MacColl and dancer Jean= Newlove was swimming off the coast when she was run over by a speedboat.=20 MacColl first shot to fame in 1981 with her single "There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop (Swears He's Elvis)," and scored her biggest hit with the= Pogues in 1987 with Christmas favorite "Fairytale in New York."=20 "Pop music has always been my first love," she said in a recent interview= with the Times newspaper.=20 She collaborated with several bands including the Smiths, Talking Heads and Billy Bragg.=20 Her latest album, "Tropical Brainstorm," released earlier this year,= reflected influences from Brazil and Cuba and critics praised her latest live performances.=20 She was due to present "Kirsty MacColl's Cuba," an eight-part series on the development of popular Cuban music which was scheduled to start Wednesday on BBC Radio 2.=20 A spokesman for the channel said the programs had been pre-recorded but it= was unclear when they would now be broadcast.=20 MacColl leaves two children from her marriage to producer Steve Lillywhite.= =20 Kirsty MacColl, 1959 - 2000 A statement has been issued on behalf of KIRSTY MacCOLL's management company, which says that the speedboat which struck her was allegedly travelling illegally in an area reserved for swimmers.=20 The statement in full reads:=20 "Singer Kirsty MacColl died tragically yesterday afternoon in a boating accident in Cozumel, Mexico, where she was holidaying with her two sons.=20 Kirsty, who was aged 41, was taking a holiday after a busy and successful year.=20 "The accident happened when Kirsty, a keen diver, was hit by a speedboat travelling illegally in an area reserved for swimmers. Her two children were with her in the water at the time, but both of them are alright.=20 Kirsty's former husband Steve Lillywhite is flying to Mexico to be with the children.=20 "Kirsty has a long and illustrious career in music ranging from hits of her own like 'There's A Guy Works Down The Chip Shop Swears His Elvis' to work with everyone from Johnny Marr to Big Country to Simple Minds and most famously Shane MacGowan and The Pogues on the poignant 'Fairytale of New York' - coincidentally in the charts again, this time courtesy of Ronan Keating. She comes from a musical dynasty and her father Ewan MacColl was one of the stalwarts of the British folk scene throughout the sixties.=20 "Kirsty MacColl was a bright, fun loving person as well as a talented singer and writer who was loved by anybody and everybody she came into contact with. Manager Kevin Nixon, who has worked with Kirsty for four years, said: "We are absolutely distraught. I was personally immensely proud to be her manager after being a fan for so many years before that". =20 http://elvispelvis.com/popsstaples.htm =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CARMEL, Calif. (AP) - Gloria Somborn Daly, who operated the landmark= hat-shaped Brown Derby restaurant in Los Angeles for years and was the daughter of= actress Gloria Swanson, died Dec. 11 from brain cancer. She was 80.=20 Her blonde good looks, which often brought comparisons to her mother, led to offers from Hollywood. But she chose to follow her father into the= restaurant business after inheriting most of his estate.=20 Herbert Somborn, a movie producer-turned restaurateur, was said to have= created the restaurant on a bet with screenwriter Wilson Mizner, who told him, ``If= you know anything about food you can sell it out of a hat.''=20 The distinctive, hat-shaped eatery flourished for decades as a popular destination for celebrities and tourists alike until its Wilshire Boulevard location lost much of its luster in the 1970s.=20 Daly closed the restaurant in 1980, planning to have the building razed.= When local preservationists protested, she donated it to them instead.=20 Its dome still stands as the centerpiece of the Brown Derby Plaza shopping center that has replaced the restaurant.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D NEW YORK (AP) - Milt Hinton, a jazz bassist and photographer called ``The Judge'' by the jazz greats he worked with and photographed during a 70-year career, died Tuesday. He was 90.=20 Hinton died at a hospital in Queens after battling an extended illness, his longtime friend and collaborator David Berger said.=20 During his career, Hinton performed with almost every luminary of jazz and popular music, from Louis Armstrong, Cab Calloway, Dizzy Gillespie and John Coltrane to Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand and Paul McCartney.= =20 Hinton also documented his world with a camera, compiling close to 60,000 negatives depicting hundreds of jazz artists and popular musicians on the= road, in the studio, backstage and at parties.=20 After years of playing in and around Chicago as a free-lance musician, Hinton joined Cab Calloway's band in 1936. During his 15-year stint with Calloway, Hinton was also featured on dozens of recordings with Benny Goodman, Lionel Hampton, Coleman Hawkins and Billie Holiday, among others.= =20 When Hinton left Calloway's band in the early 1950s, he moved to New York and continued to work as a studio musician. For the next 20 years he played on thousands of jazz and popular music albums, jingles and film soundtracks.= =20 Hinton was humble in his role as an accompanist, once saying, ``It's necessary that you have enough humility to make somebody else sound good.''= =20 He was known for his outstanding ability to keep time, earning him the nickname ``The Judge.''=20 Hinton's collection of photographs has been featured in two books, ``Bass Line: The Stories and Photographs of Milt Hinton'' and ``OverTime: The Jazz Photographs of Milt Hinton,'' as well as in dozens of magazines and= newspapers.=20 Hinton received eight honorary doctorates, a ``Eubie'' award from the New York Chapter of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, as well as a Living Treasure award from the Smithsonian Museum.=20 Hinton is survived by his wife, Mona, a daughter and granddaughter http://elvispelvis.com/milthinton.htm =3D=3D=3D=3D http://elvispelvis.com/popsstaples.htm Roebuck "Pops" Staples, patriarch of the gospel and rhythm-and-blues group the Staple Singers, died Tuesday. He was 85. Staples had suffered a concussion recently in a fall near his home in suburban Dalton. He and his group gained fame in the 1960s by singing music that urged social and religious change.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D Spanish Singer Cano Dies at 54=20 MADRID, Spain (AP) - Carlos Cano, a singer whose velvety voice and commitment to social causes made him one of Spain's most beloved entertainers, died Tuesday of heart failure. He was 54. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001219/wl/obit_cano_2.html =3D=3D=3D=3D Bebop Saxophonist With an Ear for Pop Hits by Kenny Mathieson Copyright =A9 2000 Kenny Mathieson The Scotsman, 2000 Al Timothy was part of the wave of West Indian musicians who brought a new vitality to the London jazz scene in the late 1940s and early 1950s. His robust, hard swinging tenor playing brought him many admirers within the jazz community, while his talent for writing popular hit songs brought his music to a wider audience through artists as diverse as Shirley Bassey, Edmundo Ros, David Essex, and an American known simply as The Charmer, who later turned out to be the man who went on to lead the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan.=20 While Timothy cashed in on the hits scored by pop artists, notably Shirley Bassey=92s version of =93Kiss Me, Honey Honey, Kiss Me=94, he never saw a= penny for The Charmer=92s unlicensed hit with his rather risque calypso =93Don=92t= Touch Me Nylon=94.=20 He was born Albon Timothy in Trinidad, and took up his first instrument, the flute, at the age of eight. His father was a musician and instrument maker, and encouraged his progress, but his mother opposed a musical career, and he became a tailor, opening his own shop at the age of 20.=20 The lure of music was too strong, however, and Timothy, who now played bass and saxophone, put together his own band, initially for local competitions, and then for a residence at an exclusive club. By the time he joined the exodus to London in 1948, he was well-established on the island, and immediately plunged into the nascent West Indian music scene then growing in the capital.=20 He accompanied the calypso artist Lord Kitchener, and worked as a featured saxophone soloist with bandleader Cab Kaye, but was also involved in the emerging bebop scene in London. He met the famous American jazz patron and Rothschild heiress, Baroness Nica de Koenigswarter, when sharing a bill with pianist Teddy Wilson, and she installed him as the resident bandleader when she opened a modern jazz club in the city.=20 He co-led the Timwu-Kee Sextet with Singaporean pianist David Wu and trumpeter Shake Keane at the Celebrity restaurant in Mayfair, a venue which became famous, and even hosted a broadcast of BBC radio=92s popular Two-Way Family Favourites. Timothy also appeared on British television=92s ground-breaking teen music programme, Oh Boy!.=20 His connection with the Baroness, known to all as Nica, brought him to New York in 1956, where she opened doors to the saxophonist, and introduced him to pianist Thelonious Monk.=20 His career suffered a decline in subsequent decades, although he continued to work as a saxophonist and bandleader, and as a songwriter. Eventually, he turned to cabaret, touring the working men=92s club circuit in England, and playing summer season in resorts. One of his sons, Michael, was featured on piano with his father when only 12, and is now a professional keyboard player who has worked with Boy George, Hugh Masekela, and Massive Attack, among others.=20 He is survived by his English wife, Joy, and their three sons, Adrian, Nicky and Michael. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Wednesday December 20 1:38 PM ET Guitarist for 10,000 Maniacs Dies=20 PITTSBURGH (AP) - Rob Buck, lead guitarist for the rock band 10,000 Maniacs, has died of complications from liver failure. He was 42. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001220/en/obit_buck_1.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chet Baker joke Date: 20 Dec 2000 20:38:28 EST In a message dated 12/20/0 12:34:04 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >But of all the jazz pop >"crossovers" - to use the kind term - the Mariachi Brass records are by far >the most disappointing. They just suck. Art Blakey did an okay job of it. > So did Oliver Nelson. And Joe Pass. And Howard Roberts. >And then there's Bud Shank. And Stan Getz. >I think most people would call Stan a real jazz musician. But boy he was >good at selling out. His Bacharach record is a thing of beauty, not to >mention all his bossa nova collaborations. >But Chet couldn't do it. >And I can't really blame him. Its not really like Chet "did" it Its more like, lets schedule a tiajuanabee session for mariachi brass on Tuesday. Let's schedule a whole day in the studio and be all set up. Then when precious jazzbo Chet, who'll sell the rekkids, shows up... let's turn on the 'record' button! he probably had a 50-50 show up record...JB/speculating like mad here # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Odds Against Tomorrow & Kiss Me Kill Me Date: 20 Dec 2000 21:12:47 -0800 Having watched at least 100 noirs over the past two years, this score is a personal crime jazz favorite for the way Lewis integrates the score and the film. (Sweet Smell of Success, Mister Buddwing and Chico Hamilton's Repulsion are the others at the top of my list.) There is a score LP of this movie as well as an MJQ version. I'm sure that's the MJQ in the OST I have, playing with a crime jazz orchestra. Belafonte is fine as a low-on-cash vibe player, while redneck Robert Ryan and horny kook Gloria Grahame (in a spectacular 2 minute appearance) are all wonderful in this late noir caper film. Director Robert Wise won a lifetime achievement award from some trade organization for his career use of music in film (West Side Story, and way back to the non-horror fantasy Curse of the Cat People with its shimmering Roy Webb score.) Yahoo Broadcast.com broadband section is showing Italian thriller Kiss Me Kill Me with Carroll Baker and music by Piero Umiliani. Starts with a good bass line and theme, but it's the usual tinny sound from a net broadcast with a small picture.The lead actress is a fashion photographer so there are quite a few costume changes if you get my drift. Unfortunately, a lot of the european stuff coming out now is kinda dull, some good music occasionally but otherwise labnguid vampire or routine slasher films. Maybe in Jan I'll post a best-of the 200 euro/asian/trash DVD's I've bought or rented from Netflix or bite the bullet and do a web page or at least post the best links for y'all. In the meantime, Doris "Nude On the Moon" Wishman can do no wrong, and Space Thing is the best/worst film ever - think stunning technicolor Plan 9 in the nude with groovy music by the guy who supposedly scored surf film The Endless Summer. Ah hell, here's a start in no particular order: Barbarella Space Thing Nude on the Moon Bad Girls go to Hell/Another Day Another Man - lounge/bossa/bebop/surf/stripper jazz, so hip it hurts, all thrown together in lieu of a plot Juliet of the Spirits Black Cat - Jade Leung HK Erotic Ghost Story - HK Exotica - Atom Egoyan Robotrix - HK Reincarnation of Isabel - one of the best eurotrashies on Redemption Fruit is Swelling - HK Blood Feast - you know it, you love it, you're hungry Emerald Forest - due in February JB reviews at mondo-digital.com imdb.com asiandvd.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Dean Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD vs. LP Date: 21 Dec 2000 01:13:40 -0600 I've been thinking about this, the difference between CDs and LPs. (Excuse me if this has all been discussed and I'm just repeating ourselves . . . . ) Having been over and back, I prefer LPs. Perhaps because I grew up loving records, and looking at and reading the covers while the records played, they seem much more real to me. They have so much more impact than a little cd in a "jewel case". You can watch a record spin. They are also physically easier to control (speaking as a DJ). And now that people can dub a cd for a couple of dollars, records seem MUCH more valuable to me as objects. (The smart labels are keeping their cd releases valuable by turning them into real objects, like the stunning Manhattan Research, which is essentially a beautifully designed book too.) And today I thought that perhaps I've worn basic black ever since my punk rock days because of the LP. Black (vinyl) is beautiful! paul dean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Odds Against Tomorrow & Kiss Me Kill Me Date: 21 Dec 2000 02:43:57 -0500 At 09:12 PM 12/20/00 -0800, jim gerwitz wrote: > There is a score LP of >this movie as well as an MJQ version. I'm sure that's the MJQ in the OST I >have, playing with a crime jazz orchestra. Wait a second. Are you saying that the OST does or does not feature the MJQ of which John Lewis is a member? Or are you saying that there are two records? One an OST and the other a MJQ record with some music from the film. In any case, all members of the MJQ do play on the OST but they're not identified as such. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop Music page Date: 09 Dec 2000 05:48:39 New additions to the Space Age Pop Music page: New biographies of Hoyt Curtin, who wrote the theme to "The Flintstones" and most of the other Hanna-Barbera cartoons, and Randy Van Horne, whose singers sang that theme, as well as countless jingles and Esquivel's zu-zu-zus Find them at: http://www.spaceagepop.com/whatsnew.htm Enjoy! Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: Cool Fact: Gramophone Needles Date: 21 Dec 2000 08:25:02 -0500 The Learning Kingdom's Cool Fact of the Day for December 21, 2000 What were the very best gramophone needles made of? In the 1920s, gramophones (wind-up phonograph players) were all the rage. These primitive sound machines used a sharp needle to trace the undulations of a groove spiraling around a flat disk that rotated under the needle mechanism. The changing position of the needle was mechanically amplified to produce audible sound vibrations. The least expensive gramophone needles were made out of hard steel, which eventually wore out the records. Because they were inflexible, the steel needles also reproduced the micro-bumps made by tiny dust particles, adding undesirable noises called hiss and crackle. The most expensive needles, which also produced the best sound, were made out of softer materials like pig bristles or carved bamboo slivers. These soft needles did not produce as much hiss and crackle as the steel needles and did not wear out the records. The very best needles were made out of the spines of prickly pear cactus (Opuntia), which are not only sharp and flexible but also very durable. Tips for needle care in old phonographs: http://www.garlic.com/~tgracyk/needletips.htm Listen to sound clips from old gramophone recordings: http://wap03.informatik.fh-wiesbaden.de/weber1/grammo/clips.htm Cool Fact of the Day list membership: 604,981 If you like Cool Fact of the Day, sign up a friend! Free gift subscriptions: http://lists.LearningKingdom.com/giftsub/ To join, visit: http://lists.LearningKingdom.com/join/ Copyright (c) 2000, The Learning Kingdom, Inc. http://www.LearningKingdom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: (exotica) It's a Jane Fondle Xmas! Date: 21 Dec 2000 09:15:00 -0800 (PST) Seasons Greetings, all! I am sorry I have lurking, but a gals gotta work it at work, you know! But all these Christmas music posts just got me in the mood... These are in no particular order-just some faves-o-mine! I am unsure of some of the titles as I am at woik! Love, Jane 1. SWITCHED ON SANTA by Sy Mann=20 2. RAMSEY LEWIS-MORE SOUNDS OF CHRISTMAS=20 3. ESQUIVEL - MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM A SPACE AGE BACHELOR PAD 4. ELLA FITZGERALD - ELLA WISHES YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS - On Verve records, 5. PHIL SPECTOR - A CHRISTMAS GIFT TO YOU, THE VENTURES CHRISTMAS =20 6. ELVIS CHRISTMAS 7. T. REX-CHRISTMAS BOP=20 8. HERB ALPERT'S CHRISTMAS 9. LOU RAWLS - HO!HO!HO! =20 10. A&M CHRISTMAS 11. JAMES BROWN-FUNKY CHRISTMAS COMP 12. KEELY SMITH -KEELY CHRISTMAS 13. FRANK SINATRA - A JOLLY CHRISTMAS=20 14. JOHNNY MATHIS - MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM JOHNNY MATHIS 15. JINGLE BELL JAZZ=20 16. VINCE GUIRALDI - A CHARLIE BROWN CHRISTMAS 17. "The Merriest" by JUNE CHRISTY and "Warm December" by JULIE LONDON=20 18. COMBUSTIBLE EDISON - "Sleigh Ride" and"Christmas Time is Here" 19. =A0"Christmas With the Devil" - Spinal Tap=20 20. =A0CHRISTMAS COOKIN' WITH JIMMY SMITH=20 21. =A0THE RUDY RAY MOORE CHRISTMAS RECORD=20 22. PAUL REVERE AND THE RAIDERS XMAS 23. SPIKE JONES XMAS 24. THE RHINO COOL YULE COLLECTION 25. "Super Sunny Xmas" by Redd Kross 26. Bing Crosby/David Bowie "Little Drummer Boy/Peace on Earth" I am SURE I forgot something, alas! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas on video Date: 20 Dec 2000 19:20:17 +0100 to Bump, and all other folks into Peter Thomas : this is a list of movies/series with score by Peter Thomas, sent to me by Suitbert: Der Buckelige von Soho Das Geheimnis der weiSen Nonne Der Gorilla von Soho Der Hund von Baskerville Im Banne des Unheimlichen Das Indische Tuch Jerry Cotton: Dynami in... " " Der Morderc... J.C: Mordnacht in J.C.:Die Rechnung... J.C. Schusse aus... J.C.:Der tod im... J.C.: Todesschusse... J. Cotton: Um null Uhr... Der Mann mit dem Glasauge Neues vom Hexer Raumpatrouille Orion 1-3 " " 4-5 " " 6-7 Der Stoff, aus dem die Traume sind Die Totes aus der Themse Der unheimliche Monch Winnetou und sein Freund Zimmer 13 Der Zinker Heinz Ruhmann erzahlt... they can be bought on-line from http://www.jpc.de/ for DEM 20 and up. PAL only i think. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) It's a Jane Fondle Xmas! Date: 21 Dec 2000 13:04:03 EST In a message dated 12/21/0 12:16:00 PM, jane_fondle_69@yahoo.com wrote: >Seasons Greetings, all! I am sorry I have lurking, >but a gals gotta work it at work, you know! But all >these Christmas music posts just got me in the mood... > These are in no particular order-just some >faves-o-mine! And as promised, my list of fave 45's of the season Toni Wine-My Boyfriend's Coming Home For Christmas Royal Guardsmen-Snoopy's Christmas Stridels-I Remember Christmas (on Curtom) Eartha Kitt-This Year's Santa Baby (followup version) Reggie Lamb-Christmas Confessions (soul) Soul Duo-Just A Sad Christmas Soul Searchers-Christmas In Viet Nam Private Charles Bowens-Christmas In Viet Nam (different song) Ebonys/O'Jays-Christmas Just Ain't Christmas (Without The One You Love) Christina-Things Fall Apart Nancy Wilson-That's What I Want For Christmas Honey & The Bees-Jing Jing A Ling Uniques-Merry Christmas Darling Roy "C"-A Merry Black Xmas J Hines & The Boys-A Funky Xmas To You Dee Irwin & Mamie Galore-All I Want For Christmas Is Your Love Kurtis Blow-Christmas Rappin' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: Re: (exotica) It's a Jane Fondle Xmas! Date: 21 Dec 2000 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) Thanks B-man, for the new wish-list! Gotta hear the BLOWFLY Xmas, damn! Jane $%(W&*% Fondle > > And as promised, my list of fave 45's of the season > Toni Wine-My Boyfriend's Coming Home For Christmas > Royal Guardsmen-Snoopy's Christmas > Stridels-I Remember Christmas (on Curtom) > Eartha Kitt-This Year's Santa Baby (followup > version) > Reggie Lamb-Christmas Confessions (soul) > Soul Duo-Just A Sad Christmas > Soul Searchers-Christmas In Viet Nam > Private Charles Bowens-Christmas In Viet Nam > (different song) > Ebonys/O'Jays-Christmas Just Ain't Christmas > (Without The One You Love) > Christina-Things Fall Apart > Nancy Wilson-That's What I Want For Christmas > Honey & The Bees-Jing Jing A Ling > Uniques-Merry Christmas Darling > Roy "C"-A Merry Black Xmas > J Hines & The Boys-A Funky Xmas To You > Dee Irwin & Mamie Galore-All I Want For Christmas Is > Your Love > Kurtis Blow-Christmas Rappin' ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Kerstfeest Muziek Date: 21 Dec 2000 11:32:10 -0800 (PST) Think I got that right. A Sunny Day with Sanny Day. This features a swinging version of Let it Snow (the only Christmas song on this live and lively collection of lounge-pop standards). Sanny is or was Dutch, and very popular overseas (according to the liner notes). Her band, on this lp, is very fine. Really not much information on her on the web. Christmas with Heintje: Don't know the word for horrible, but this is. ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: Re: (exotica) Odds Against Tomorrow & Kiss Me Kill Me Date: 21 Dec 2000 15:49:19 -0500 The MJQ version is called "Patterns," I think - it was re-issued later with a different title, & I forget which was which. Maybe not as good as the OST to my ears, but I'm with you all as far as having Odds at at the top of my soundtrack list, so no, uh, crime. I like a lot of the 3rd Stream stuff of that era; much of it strikes me as pretty soundtrack-y as well, like the "Gunther Schuller presents the Brass Society of..." - can't recall exactly, I'm at work - but it was reissued on CD a couple years ago, w/compositions by Lewis, Schuller & JJ Johnson + soloists Miles Davis & Dizzy Gillespie, etc. gh >alan zweig wrote: > >Wait a second. Are you saying that the OST does or does not feature the MJQ of >which John Lewis is a member? >Or are you saying that there are two records? One an OST and the other a MJQ >record with some music from the film. >In any case, all members of the MJQ do play on the OST but they're not identified as >such. >AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Odds Against Tomorrow & Kiss Me Kill Me Date: 21 Dec 2000 17:05:58 -0500 >Maybe in Jan I'll >post a best-of the 200 euro/asian/trash DVD's I've bought or rented from >Netflix or bite the bullet and do a web page or at least post the best links >for y'all. In the meantime, Doris "Nude On the Moon" Wishman can do no >wrong, and Space Thing is the best/worst film ever - think stunning >technicolor Plan 9 in the nude with groovy music by the guy who supposedly >scored surf film The Endless Summer. Ah hell, here's a start in no >particular order: No list of astounding movies would be complete without "Autopsia de un Fantasma" ("Autopsy Of A Ghost", Mexico, 1966). Perhaps it would be less inexplicable and amazing if I knew Spanish, but not much less. A disorienting horror/comedy in full color. Imagine Bunuel colliding with 60s US monster mania. Or something like that. John Carradine plays Satan, Basil Rathbone is a ghost, Cameron Mitchell is a mad scientist with a wacky family. Also Basil's ambulatory skeleton, a robot, a gorilla, babes in bikinis, comedians with scary high voices (one is an early-Jerry-Lewis-from-hell), weird machines, garage rock teenagers packing the jury box in a courtroom scene, etc, etc. Music ranges from a garage rock instrumental under the opening titles (presented as a puppet show!) to passages that remind me of the Mothers Of Invention late 60s chamber music-style stuff (circa "Uncle Meat"). This movie is impossible for me to accurately describe. It's one that you just have to see to believe. Long live (director) Ismael Rodriguez! m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoTone@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Up With People Date: 21 Dec 2000 18:22:59 EST I thought they were called "Hooray For Everything" on the Simpsons. I remember them coming to my highschool for a performance. They did jubilant cover versions of such songs as Sussudio. May they rest in peace. Jon Cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: Re: (exotica) Kerstfeest Muziek Date: 22 Dec 2000 01:24:25 +0100 =20 >Think I got that right.=20 Almost. Kerstmuziek. >A Sunny Day with Sanny Day. This features a swinging >version of Let it Snow (the only Christmas song on >this live and lively collection of lounge-pop >standards). Sanny is or was Dutch, and very popular >overseas (according to the liner notes).=20 Was Dutch, from Amsterdam, and Sanny Day was not her real=20 name, wasn't it Suzy M=F6ller or was she someone else?=20 Popular? Maybe before my time, but certainly not very. >Her band, on >this lp, is very fine. Really not much information on >her on the web. That band is probably The Millers, named after bandleader/ guitarist Ab de Molenaar, Miller in Dutch. >Christmas with Heintje: Don't know the word for >horrible, but this is.=20 Have no idea whether Jantje Smit, the new Heintje and also=20 hugely popular in Germany, has already a Christmas CD out, but it'll be something to dread far more than anything=20 Heintje ever did.=20 'Verschrikkelijk' is the word, seems too horrible for an=20 American to pronounce anyway. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Members of our staff may be available ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ for private parties after the egg dishes. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/w34779.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) Enoch/Moog/etc Date: 21 Dec 2000 20:23:05 -0500 I have Spaced Out on a budget cd from SJB (or somesuch label). It is very good, however the cd seems to be like a cd-r, where I can here a lot of popping at quiet parts and beginnings before it kicks up. Is this possible or is this "due to limitations of analog recording" circa 68/69? Robbie--I wrote you back in the summer about my thrift store finds of 6-lp box sets from Motorola of Command lps. They are in very good shape, with actual Command inner sleeves and stating on the front of the box "set B, set C", etc...Also picked up Best of Moog, 60s and 70s CD, featuring Perrey/Kingsley, Hayman, Hyman, Hot Butter, etc. Very Moogy indeed. Do any of you feel the Ventures qualify to be discussed here? Just wondering, as I picked up several 2 in 1 lp on CD sets...Thanks for listening--J Workman theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch/Moog/etc Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:39:16 -0500 > I have Spaced Out on a budget cd from SJB (or somesuch label). It is very > good, however the cd seems to be like a cd-r, where I can here a lot of > popping at quiet parts and beginnings before it kicks up. Is this possible > or is this "due to limitations of analog recording" circa 68/69? Yeah, I'm guessing it's due to the limitations of the vinyl they probably cut it from. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch/Moog/etc Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:41:27 -0500 At 08:23 PM 12/21/00 -0500, The Workmans wrote: > . Do any >of you feel the Ventures qualify to be discussed here? We do and we have. Go ahead. I have three (more) on their way here via ebay. I am not, however, attempting to collect ALL the Ventures records, only the ones recorded between 1964 and about 1973. Which ones do you like? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Mexican Horrors Date: 21 Dec 2000 20:57:38 -0600 > No list of astounding movies would be complete without "Autopsia de un > Fantasma" ("Autopsy Of A Ghost", Mexico, 1966). Mexican horror movies are the coolest! Back in my misspent youth, I worked at a low-rent TV station in Texas. The owner leased a batch of horror movies, all of which turned out to be dubbed Mexican horror and sci-fi films from the late '50s to the mid '60s. The package had everything from "Wrestling Women vs. the Aztec Mummy" and "The Braniac" to "The Black Pit of Dr. M" and "Castle of the Monsters". The Mexicans expertly captured the classic look of the Universal horror films of the '30s and '40s, but grafted onto them elements of movie serials, comic books and professional wrestling. What a bizarro combination! See! The big-headed monster in "The Brainiac" suck out people's brains with his super-long tongue! See! Two gorgeous Mexican babes (Gloria Venus and The Golden Ruby, no less!) kick the crap out of two dozen bad guys -- without even messing up their hair! See! Superhero Angel (you know he's The Angel because he wears a dirty white t-shirt with a big "A" on the front) spout such dubbed drivel as, "I've devoted my life to fighting crime. There's so much of it around." What th--?? Haven't seen these movies in a long time, but they were incredible. At the time, I thought I was watching movies from another planet! If anything defines "cinema exotica", it's Mexican horror movies. And speaking of things South of the Border, anybody here check out "Mambo Santa Mambo" yet? It's a swell collection of Christmas tunes done Latin-style, with tracks by Esquivel, Joe Loco, Celia Cruz, The Flashcats, The Enchanters and Hernando Hopkins. It was worth the price just for Hugo Winterhalter's "Christmas Song Cha Cha". Pass the jalapenos! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Organic Needles Aren't What They're Cracked Up To Be Date: 21 Dec 2000 19:47:57 -0800 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:25:02 -0500 >From: Lou Smith >Subject: (exotica) fwd: Cool Fact: Gramophone Needles > >The most expensive needles, which also produced the best sound, were >made out of softer materials like pig bristles or carved bamboo >slivers. That actually isn't true. The best sound comes with a loud tone steel needle for acoustic recordings, and soft tone steel needles for electrical recordings. There are several problems with bamboo or cactus needles. For one thing, they are so soft, they can become worn before the side even finishes playing. And they have a nasty tendency to leave piles of organic matter in the grooves. If the record is washed, this turns to goo. A pass with a steel needle will clean the groove out, but if you play it on a modern turntable, your needle will become encased in the goo. A real mess. (It happened to me on some stuff I got at ebay.) A modern cartridge and turntable is the safest when it comes to wear, followed by steel needles, then organic needles, and lastly the so called "permanent" Tungstone needles. By far the worst thing for a record (aside from a rusty nail) is a worn steel needle. They should be replaced religiously after each side played. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Mexican Horrors Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:50:36 -0600 Darrell Brogdon wrote: > Haven't seen these movies in a long time, but they were incredible. > At the time, I thought I was watching movies from another planet! If > anything defines "cinema exotica", it's Mexican horror movies. And leave us not forget "El Rey de las Películas Mejicanas del Horror"...El Santo...AKA Samson. I grew up watching the big silver-masked hombre in Lucha Libre monster classics like El Santo Contra El Cerebro Diabolico (Samson Vs. The Diabolical Brain) at 3AM on local TV in Los Angeles and they are queso of the highest quality. There's a mighty fine webpage on El Santo here: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~dwilt/santo.html -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Double Odds Against Tomorrow Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:13:03 -0800 There were indeed two releases, the OST with JL & the MJQ(doh, Belafonte played the vibes in the film): http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=A84490 and the MJQ doin' their own thing stretching out on a few of the numbers: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=A144105 BTW can you get find me one of those Videodrome TV's in case Shania Twain ever gets back to work again? Ever grateful, JB (wishin he were Gloria Grahame's stepson) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch/Moog/etc Date: 22 Dec 2000 00:14:39 EST In a message dated 12/21/00 8:23:23 PM, theworkmans@mics.net writes: << I have Spaced Out on a budget cd from SJB (or somesuch label). It is very good, however the cd seems to be like a cd-r, where I can here a lot of popping at quiet parts and beginnings before it kicks up. Is this possible or is this "due to limitations of analog recording" circa 68/69? >> Personally, I think that and the antiquated stereo effects (now we're in the left speaker! Now we're in the right!) is part of what makes this album so charming. Good budget CDs are so few and far between, but this is one of the best $6 or $7 I've ever spent. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Soy Sauce Music CDR Track Listing Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:46:23 -0800 I finished creating a comp of all the "oriental" tracks from my Martin Denny and Arthur Lyman CDs. These are pretty much arranged chronologically for each artist. I know I'm missing some songs which never made it to CD but you know... Interestingly, while Lyman and Denny both covered a lot of the same material, only one song is represented by both artists. Martin Denny 1. Hong Kong Blues 2. China Nights 3. Ah Me Furi 4. Japanese Farewell Song 5. Little China Doll 6. Narcissus Queen 7. March Of The Siamese Children 8. Sukara 9. Buddhist Bells 10. M'Bira 11. On A Little Street In Singapore 12. Chinese Lullaby 13. Ringo Oiwake 14. Limehouse Blues 15. Sake Rock 16. Firecracker 17. Sukiyaki Arthur Lyman 18. Ringo Oiwake 19. China Clipper 20. Katsumi Love Theme 21. Sakura 22. March of the Siamese Children 23. Ye Lai Sian 24. Otome San (Japanese Drinking Song) -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Tiki Exotica CDR Track Listing Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:53:20 -0800 Went through my Exotica CDs and created a "tiki" exotica best of. Don't worry, Baxter and Sumac fans, a "jungle" exotica CD is next (Oriental exotica also excluded). This comp is obviously heavy on the Denny and Lyman (as it should be!) with a few others sprinkled in for extra spice. The idea here was to create a CD you could give to someone new to the genre and give them an idea of the "tiki" style music. Would love to see similar lists from others out there... (esp. based off of relatively available material) 1. Martin Denny - Quiet Village 2. Don Tiki (w/Martin Denny) - Exotica '97 3. Chaino - Bad & Beautiful 4. Martin Denny - Coronation 5. Martin Denny - Similau 6. 80 Drums Around The World - Caravan 7. Martin Denny - The Girlfriend Of The Whirling Dervish 8. Arthur Lyman - Babalik Ka Rin 9. Robert Drasnin - Voodoo 10. Martin Denny - The Young Savages 11. Arthur Lyman - Taboo 12. Arthur Lyman - Hawaiian War Chant 13. Wesley Edwards - Alika 14. South Seas Serenaders - Taboo 15. Robert Drasnin - Chant Of The Moon 16. Martin Denny - Voodoo Dreams 17. Robert Drasnin - Desiree 18. Martin Denny - Aku Aku 19. Martin Denny - Hypnotique (sitar) 20. Arthur Lyman - Taboo Tu 21. The Gene Rains Group - Bangkok Cock Fight 22. Martin Denny - Taboo 23. Arthur Lyman - Yellow Bird 24. Martin Denny - Exotica - Voodoo Love -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Tiki Exotica CDR Track Listing Date: 21 Dec 2000 21:53:20 -0800 Went through my Exotica CDs and created a "tiki" exotica best of. Don't worry, Baxter and Sumac fans, a "jungle" exotica CD is next (Oriental exotica also excluded). This comp is obviously heavy on the Denny and Lyman (as it should be!) with a few others sprinkled in for extra spice. The idea here was to create a CD you could give to someone new to the genre and give them an idea of the "tiki" style music. Would love to see similar lists from others out there... (esp. based off of relatively available material) 1. Martin Denny - Quiet Village 2. Don Tiki (w/Martin Denny) - Exotica '97 3. Chaino - Bad & Beautiful 4. Martin Denny - Coronation 5. Martin Denny - Similau 6. 80 Drums Around The World - Caravan 7. Martin Denny - The Girlfriend Of The Whirling Dervish 8. Arthur Lyman - Babalik Ka Rin 9. Robert Drasnin - Voodoo 10. Martin Denny - The Young Savages 11. Arthur Lyman - Taboo 12. Arthur Lyman - Hawaiian War Chant 13. Wesley Edwards - Alika 14. South Seas Serenaders - Taboo 15. Robert Drasnin - Chant Of The Moon 16. Martin Denny - Voodoo Dreams 17. Robert Drasnin - Desiree 18. Martin Denny - Aku Aku 19. Martin Denny - Hypnotique (sitar) 20. Arthur Lyman - Taboo Tu 21. The Gene Rains Group - Bangkok Cock Fight 22. Martin Denny - Taboo 23. Arthur Lyman - Yellow Bird 24. Martin Denny - Exotica - Voodoo Love -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Kerstfeest Muziek Date: 21 Dec 2000 23:50:59 -0800 (PST) > >A Sunny Day with Sanny Day. This features a > swinging > >version of Let it Snow (the only Christmas song on > >this live and lively collection of lounge-pop > >standards). Sanny is or was Dutch, and very popular > >overseas (according to the liner notes). > Was Dutch, from Amsterdam, and Sanny Day was not her > real > name, wasn't it Suzy Möller or was she someone else? > God knows. Not mentioned. Sounds sort of faux Korean. > > That band is probably The Millers, named after > bandleader/ > guitarist Ab de Molenaar, Miller in Dutch. Seems Sanny had her heyday during the 40s, but kept her groove at least up until the 60s, filling in as a ski instuctor (a Bond girl). The Millers and The Atlantics are mentioned on the lp. This seems to be a latter day combo. Guitarist is Frans van Lankeren, brother Rob on piano, Coen van Nassou on vibes. My lp is signed, I just noticed. Joy. > > >Christmas with Heintje: Don't know the word for > >horrible, but this is. > 'Verschrikkelijk' is the word, seems too horrible > for an > American to pronounce anyway. I think I pronounced that once with my femur. Compound fracture. ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch/Moog/etc Date: 22 Dec 2000 10:41:34 +0000 J Workman wrote: > I have Spaced Out on a budget cd from SJB (or somesuch label). It > is very good, however the cd seems to be like a cd-r, where I can > here a lot of popping at quiet parts and beginnings before it kicks up. > Is this possible or is this "due to limitations of analog recording" > circa 68/69? It's nothing to do with the original recordings: Enoch Light's recording techniques are widely accepted as being pretty impeccable and certainly wouldn't have had any pops or crackles. No, sadly this is due to the fact that SPJ mastered the CD from a vinyl copy of the album. SPJ/Intercontinental actually now own the Project 3 catalog (and all the master tapes)* and when I found this out I was worried that the tapes for Spaced Out might have disappeared or disintegrated but it turns out that they simply couldn't find them!!! I have to say I find this slightly hard to believe and surprising that they didn't bother to put more time into locating the tapes before issuing the CD. However, I gather they have also had a request to license Spaced Out for another Japanese re-issue so hopefully they'll manage to lay their hands on the tapes by then! [ * listees might also be interested to know that SPJ own the Vox and Turnabout catalogs! ] Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ This message was sent by Easymail - http://www.easynet.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) fwd: Cool Fact: Gramophone Needles Date: 22 Dec 2000 07:59:18 EST In a message dated 12/21/00 5:26:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, lousmith@pipeline.com writes: << The most expensive needles, which also produced the best sound, were made out of softer materials like pig bristles or carved bamboo slivers. These soft needles did not produce as much hiss and crackle as the steel needles and did not wear out the records. >> they also made a special tool to re-sharpen the bristle, thorn and bamboo needles. and in all fairness to steel needles, they are a "soft" steel. these steel needles actually wear down pretty quickly -- say 3 or 4 plays. some people would (do) rotate the needle after a few plays to get more life from the needle. this practice does wear down the record. the 78's were pretty "hard" compared to almost all of the steel needles produced. i don't think they wear as much as this discussion has suggested. i have some records, like the Christmas ones, that i have played hundreds of times (and were probably played a lot before i got them) and they do not seem to have appreciably worn. there was a big concern when LPs started hitting the scene because most knew that vinyl is much softer than the old 78s (shellac or otherwise). there is supposedly no (to the most minimal) wear of diamond and sapphire styli. in vinyl, if something is going to give, it is going to be the vinyl record. you cannot judge a 78s' condition on appearance as you can vinyl. if you see a big scratch on vinyl, you can bet you will hear it. i have some 78s that look like someone drug a knife across them and it doesn't effect the playback. now DON'T read this email and think that i think the 78 is the best medium of all time. i am just sharing information that i have gathered over the last 11 years of 78 and Victrola collecting. the most common hiss problem with Victrola-like players is that the seal on the amplifying diaphram is bad, or even worse, the mica diaphram itself is cracked or broken. btw, my fav Xmas 78 is Yogi Yorgesson's "I yust go nuts at Christmas." My favorite non-Christmas 78 is Johnny Hemp and the Kentucky Serenaders' "Keep your sunny side up." i have played those records hundreds of times and the are not appreciably showing wear. i hope everybody has a good Christmas weekend. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Organic Needles Aren't What They're Cracked Up To Be Date: 22 Dec 2000 08:03:23 EST In a message dated 12/21/00 7:43:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, bigshot@spumco.com writes: << By far the worst thing for a record (aside from a rusty nail) is a worn steel needle. They should be replaced religiously after each side played. See ya Steve >> i agree with steve on the above statement. i usually replace the needles after about 3 plays. the steel needles are so cheap that i probably should replace them as steve says above. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Amiga-A-Go-Go, Vols. 1 & 2 Date: 22 Dec 2000 15:03:17 +0100 Two new compilations out on BMG Ariola, compiled by Stefan Kassel (who is also responsible for the usual cool artwork) and Frank Jastfelder. 'A collection of Beat and Pop nuggets from the archives of East-Germany's former Amiga-Label - now owned by Bertelsmann. Recorded between 1964 and 1979 these tracks demonstrate that the British invasion didn't stop at the wall.' state the liner-notes... Vol.1: Deutsch-Demokratische Rare Grooves Vol.2: Deutsch-Demokratischer Beat The band names alone: Modern Soul Band, Dresden Sextett, die Sputnicks, Team 4, Rote Gitarren (Red Guitars), Baltic Quintett etc. These compilations include amazing material by bands from the former GDR as well as a few tracks from other socialist brother countries such as Poland. Musically ranging from Schlager, Beat, Surf, vocal Easy Listening to Soul, Funk and Disco many of these rare tracks even outdo most of the music made in the western part of Germany at that time, at least from today's point of view. Is this because all bands in the GDR had to pass a musical education and exam before they were allowed to play and record? Among my favorite tracks are the German versions of such killer-evergreens as "Wully Bully" ("Volle Pulle") by the Theo Schumann Combo, "An einem Tag im September" ("She's Not There") by the Dresden Sextett and "Es steht ein Haus in New Orleans" by Orchester G=FCnther Gollasch... (British invasion? These are all American songs) According to Stefan Kassel, he and Frank Jastfelder did an exhausting lot of research in the Amiga archives and really told the few top tracks from 95% crap, almost never agreeing with the old Amiga managers on what to choose. So the impression you get from these selections does not give a typical picture of the musical standards of the Prussian-socialist culture, but nevertheless are great compilations. I must say, I was surprised even after knowing the "Amigamore" compilation. -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Ventures was Enoch/Moog/etc Date: 22 Dec 2000 10:52:25 -0500 My $.02 on the Ventures. My favorite albums, in order from most: 1. A Go-Go 2. In Space 3. Xmas Album 4. Telstar, The Lonley Bull 5. Surfing 6. Underground Fire 7. Flights of Fantasy 8. Tenth Anniversary =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: RE: (exotica) Odds Against Stan Kenton Date: 22 Dec 2000 11:04:07 -0500 >Phil Ford wrote: > >I think a lot of that stuff was released on a CD called "Birth of the Third >Stream," which combined a couple of LPs worth of stuff. (Milton Babbitt's >oddball serialist piece "All Set" was omitted, though.) There's a beautiful >three-movement piece on there by John Lewis called "Three Little Feelings," >which features Miles Davis as soloist. As you say, some of this stuff sounds >sort of sound-tracky. Actually, the score for "Odds Against Tomorrow" sounded >more modernistic than most of the crime jazz stuff I've heard -- does anybody >else know of other films from the 1950s that have a comparably biting >modernist crimejazz style? > >Phil That's the one! I have another Lewis score at home, I believe it's called "The Milanese Affair." Very good, tho a bit more "jazz" than Odds (this is not a bad thing). Among the other non-soundtrack period releases I enjoy are the Stan Kenton "Innovations orchestra" discs from the early 50's. Seems to have been panned somewhat roundly at the time for overreaching & lack of subtletly (esp compared to Lewis, Schuller et al), but I enjoy a great deal for those very reasons & the whole Stravinsky-with-a-big-beat concept, while at times funny, remains compelling. The tie-in (or "criminal element") would be Pete Rugulo, who was responsible for several of the arrangements. I believe there are a couple re-issues available; "Innovations Orchestra" (2 discs) and another compilation of the Bob Graettinger (feel free to correct my spelling) pieces which appeared on a series of moody-looking & highly adorable 10-inches records. A friend of mine, recording with John Fahey a couple years ago, told me that Fahey cited this stuff & it's at times crashing, violent qualities as an eye-opener & influence on his own sense of chromaticism & dissonance. Apparently, his mom used to play it around the house. gh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) betty page Date: 22 Dec 2000 00:45:38 +0800 hi all, i spied these at a local cd shop here. any ideas what these are? i'm sure some of these may of been discussed here previously and i just didn't know what they were at the time. i'm not sure if they are worth picking up but they look interesting. music for gracious living electronic toys(this has a naked woman on the cover). betty page - jungle girl danger girl(burlesque) kazuko hohki - chante brigitte bardot i'm real curious about the betty page discs. any idea of what that music sounds like? i don't remember who put these out but they look like the same label that put out those russ meyer soundtracks(from germany i think). william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Amiga-A-Go-Go, Vols. 1 & 2 Date: 22 Dec 2000 17:11:05 EST In a message dated 12/22/0 9:02:36 AM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >Two new compilations out on BMG Ariola, compiled by Stefan Kassel (who >is also responsible for the usual cool artwork) and Frank Jastfelder. 'A >collection of Beat and Pop nuggets from the archives of East-Germany's >former Amiga-Label - now owned by Bertelsmann. Recorded between 1964 and >1979 these tracks demonstrate that the British invasion didn't stop at >the wall.' state the liner-notes... a couple of new compilations came into our station last month called "They Did 'Em In German", mainly garage/brit/pop 6T's tunes played and sung by German bands of the era...I'll try to give them a listen tonight...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 22 Dec 2000 16:22:52 -0600 This week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast is the annual holiday show, featuring cool tunes for the Yule by Esquivel, The Three Suns, Frank Sinatra, Jaymz Bee and the Royal Jelly Orchestra, Les Baxter, the Randy van Horne Singers, June Christy, Duke Ellington, Eddie Dunstedter and more. Among the highlights: Marco Rizo's South-of-the-Border spin on "Sleigh Ride"; Vox Bop mixes up "We Three Kings" with the "Mission Impossible" theme; Art Carney's goofy "Santa Claus and the Doodle-Li-Boop"; Xavier Cugat and Les Brown meet The Nutcracker; rare tracks from "The Merriest of Christmas Pops"; Christmas songs done bossa nova and cha-cha-cha; and, of course, Nat King Cole does "The Christmas Song". Roast up some chestnuts and visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html When you stop by the website, enter our weekly CD giveaway. This week, you can win a free copy of the Christmas show! Happy holidays to all, and thanks for the space. Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence KS 66045 Listen to KANU on the Web at http://kanu.ukans.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: RE: (exotica) betty page Date: 22 Dec 2000 16:41:56 -0800 > betty page - jungle girl > danger girl(burlesque) > I enjoy both of these. They contain instrumental tunes, many of which are slightly jazzy with either a crime or latin feel. Jerry Larson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) betty page Date: 22 Dec 2000 22:09:13 -0500 William asked: > music for gracious living This a sampler from QDK Media (and I believe there is a second volume) label. It covers quite a bit of ground including selections from some of their soundtracks, the Betty Page cds, some psychedelia and so forth. > electronic toys(this has a naked woman on the cover). There are two volumes of this with the first being production library moog tracks from David Vorhaus, Ron Geesin and a few more unfamiliar names. The second volume features selections that were commercially released from Mort Garson,Walter Sear, Bruce Haack. etc. > betty page - jungle girl > danger girl(burlesque) Good but not earth-shattering. Library music with a few gems. Hope this helps, Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Amiga-A-Go-Go, Vols. 1 & 2 Date: 23 Dec 2000 01:38:55 -0500 I believe the ones you're talking about are "They Sing It In German" - there are three volumes, all of which are interesting (for want of a better word) - there are a few real gems on them, and mostly it's just fun to listen to all these well-known artists attempting to sing versions of their hits in German. (Johnny Cash is the best...) But the Amiga comps are quite different - more jazz influenced, not really top 30 pop hits at all. I haven't heard the "Amiga A Go-Go" CDs yet, but have heard some other pieces, all of which were good. Coincidentally, last week's Space Bop consisted of two Amiga compilations - however, due to "minor technical problems" (my computer was totally %#$$*%, thanks to Intel and their stupid PC camera) we couldn't post a playlist. Dusty Groove will be getting the Amiga comps in on CD after the holidays - they had volume one on vinyl a few weeks ago, but it's sold out now. They also stock the Amiga compilation put together by Jazzanova ("Formation 60"). (No, I don't work for them - I just spend all my money there...) cheryl DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/22/0 9:02:36 AM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: > > >Two new compilations out on BMG Ariola, compiled by Stefan Kassel (who > >is also responsible for the usual cool artwork) and Frank Jastfelder. 'A > >collection of Beat and Pop nuggets from the archives of East-Germany's > >former Amiga-Label - now owned by Bertelsmann. Recorded between 1964 and > >1979 these tracks demonstrate that the British invasion didn't stop at > >the wall.' state the liner-notes... > > a couple of new compilations came into our station last month called "They > Did 'Em In German", mainly garage/brit/pop 6T's tunes played and sung by > German bands of the era...I'll try to give them a listen tonight...JB > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Amiga-A-Go-Go, Vols. 1 & 2 Date: 23 Dec 2000 02:45:17 -0500 At 01:38 AM 12/23/00 -0500, cheryl wrote: > I haven't heard the "Amiga A Go-Go" CDs >yet, but have heard some other pieces, all of which were good. Okay, speaking of all things "a go go" and things that come in multiple volumes, can someone tell me if one of the volumes of this new "Blow Up" series is better than the other? I heard some of it in a store and it was the best thing of its kind I'd ever heard but I didn't realize there were other volumes so I don't know which one I heard. I'd buy myself one for a Chanukah present but I have to at least try to choose the right one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Chenault" Subject: (exotica) Coffin Joe Date: 23 Dec 2000 08:40:13 -0500 Hello All, Talk of the Mexican Horror films prompted me to think of my ALL TIME favorite import films by "Coffin Joe". Like "Autopsy of a Ghost" (which I would love to see) the language barrier prevents me from understanding the dialogue but it doesn't matter. The scenes are intense, in color and completely surreal. Start out with either "At Midnight I'll Steal your Soul" or "Hallucinations of a Deranged Mind". What a title!!!! Happy Holidays All, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: MJQ (was: Odds Against Tomorrow & Kiss Me Kill Me) Date: 22 Dec 2000 19:51:50 +0100 who or what is MJQ? Johan ----- jim gerwitz wrote: > I'm a big MJQ fan...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Amiga-A-Go-Go, Vols. 1 & 2 Date: 23 Dec 2000 16:50:14 +0100 cheryl schrieb: > > Dusty Groove will be getting the Amiga comps in on CD after the holidays > - they had volume one on vinyl a few weeks ago, but it's sold out now. > They also stock the Amiga compilation put together by Jazzanova > ("Formation 60"). (No, I don't work for them - I just spend all my money > there...) "Formation 60" is a "real" jazz album, much less "loungy" than those A-gogo CDs. Even "Karavane" by Theo Schumann Combo isn't a cover version of "Caravan" but a generic composition of Theo Schumann himself and absolutely jazz. This compilation is also an interesting insight into the music scene of the former GDR, giving you a totally different impression of a socialist country than the (western) propaganda image of singing Young Pioneers and folk groups singing "along" for world peace, that dominated our view of the east at that time. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) betty page Date: 23 Dec 2000 11:30:09 -0800 > betty page - jungle girl > danger girl(burlesque) I would tend to recommend Danger Girl over Jungle Girl. The thing with QDK is that they had this Betty Page fixation. They're interesting for the photos, which is how I gave my copy of Danger Girl away to a Page fan I know. Danger Girl is more crime jazz oriented. Jungle Girl is sort of like they still had a bunch of crime jazz tracks left over from Danger Girl, in more of a Latin style, so they threw them on it, and then filled up the rest of the CD with a bunch of other Latin tracks. Lots of mambos and such. Musicians like Nino Nardini, Johnny Hawksworth, John Cacavas, John Barry, and so on. They're interesting but for this label the Electronic Toys records are probably more worth the money. Mr. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, crime jazz, free jazz, soundtrack music, and Now Sound, on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). http://www.supersphere.com Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at http://comm.lycos.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: MJQ (was: Odds Against Tomorrow & Kiss Me Kill Me) Date: 23 Dec 2000 20:09:56 +0000 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > > who or what is MJQ? > > Johan > > ----- The Modern Jazz Quartet... they had a distinctive piano, vibes, bass, drums lineup. My favourite is 'Space' (on Apple, 68?) which is very listenable. They cover one movement from Rodrigo's guitar concerto, which is always nice. Some of their other stuff, although very gentle and smooth, can be a little heavy-going if you're not in exactly the right mood. If you are though, it's all wonderful... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) FREE "The Later Lounge 2" CD Date: 23 Dec 2000 15:23:04 EST For all those who enjoyed "The Later Lounge" CD, given away free with Later Magazine early this year, you'll be pleased to know the new issue is out now with "The Later Lounge 2." This one contains 21 songs, including stuff from the "Sound Spectrum," "Blow-Up!" and "Le Jazzbeat" compilations, among other artists. Haven't listened to it yet, but it looks like fun, the last one was great and it's a wise investment for only $6.95. Check your local Borders or B&N. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re: MJQ (was: Odds Against Tomorrow & Kiss Me Kill Me) Date: 23 Dec 2000 16:15:19 EST In a message dated 12/23/0 3:10:37 PM, michael@moreover.com wrote: >who or what is MJQ? The Modern Jazz Quartet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mexican Horrors Date: 23 Dec 2000 16:20:38 -0500 >There's a mighty fine webpage on El Santo here: >http://www.wam.umd.edu/~dwilt/santo.html Good one, thanks. And don't forget another studio's wrestler/superhero, Neutron. He's no Santo, but Neutron movies are fun and always include a song or two. I recall one having a very complicated plot involving transmigration of souls and other strangeness. I get the impression that unlike Santo and his gang (Blue Demon, Mil Mascaras, etc), Neutron was just an actor playing a part -- no real-life wrestling career. And of course, from Europe (Italy? Spain?) there's Superargo. A choice non-wrestler Mexican flick is "La Nave de los Monstruos" ("Ship of the Monsters", 1960). Two space women and a robot land their monster-laden rocketship in the Mexican countryside and get involved with a singing cowboy who reminds me of Ernie Kovacs. Songs, dancing and good ol' fashioned monster fighting. Or "Munecas Infernales" ("The Curse Of The Doll People", 1960). A voodoo revenge story with genuinely creepy shrunken zombies sent out on murder missions. Featuring a surprisingly (considering the era) strong and smart female heroine. Of course, in that vein there's also Las Luchadoras and their film series. Or, or, or... must stop. Ho Ho Headlock! Happy holidays everyone, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Sid & Mart Krofft scandal revealed? Date: 23 Dec 2000 16:27:23 -0500 Well, I don't know how much scandal there is to dig up, but "True Hollywood Story" on E! is featuring them Sunday night at 9:00pm (eastern). These are the guys who did "H.R. Pufnstuf", "The Bugaloos", "Land Of the Lost", and on and on. Mentioned on-list occasionally. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, December 24 Date: 23 Dec 2000 17:49:48 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #123 A Quirky Christmas This week is the annual Christmas show - as usual, not your typical holiday music! V/VM: What's In Our Christmas Stocking?? "Turkey" Buschmusik: Friedensmarsch "Santa Monika" Mark Mothersbaugh: Peace And Goodwill "Joyeux Mutato" Kristian Peters: Ethadecorre "For Friends" Mark Mothersbaugh: I Don't Have A Christmas Tree "Joyeux Mutato" Pyrolator: Ein Weinachtsmann Kommt in die Disco "Denke Daran" Surf: Wonderful Christmas Time "Santa Monika" Blubbery Hellbellies: I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day "How Much More Black Can It Be?" V/VM: Christmas Turkey Fanfare "Turkey" Gisele Mackenzie: Too Fat For The Chimney "The Cannot Become Obsolete Christmas CD" (thanks, Vern!) Klaus Beyer: 2000 Jahre Weihnachten "Santa Monika" Crass: Merry Crassmas (Be Happy) "Merry Crassmas" Rabe: Manic Christmas "Santa Monika" Little Marcy: I'm Glad I'm A Christian (thanks, AZ!) Hybrid Kids: Deck The Halls "Claws" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. Happy holidays to all of our listeners. We'll be taking next week off, but we'll be back in 2001 with plenty of musical madness! cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) European Horrors Date: 23 Dec 2000 16:59:16 -0600 "m.ace" wrote: > And of course, from Europe (Italy? Spain?) there's Superargo. I picked up a VHS copy of "Superargo Vs. the Faceless Giants" several years ago. It's a very cartoonish Italian action film in the vein of "Danger: Diabolik". Superargo doesn't do much wrestling, but he does practice levitation with his own personal swami and battles a bunch of robotized zombies who are neither faceless, nor giants. His bulletproof leotards get him out of several sticky situations as I recall. Damn you, m. ace! Now I've got an irresistible urge to go down to my basement television laboratory and watch this turkey again. Mebbe if I play Brave Combo's Christmas CD one more time, the incessant polka rhythms of "Must Be Santa" will cause this unholy desire to depart from me... -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) Ventures Date: 23 Dec 2000 19:05:30 -0500 I haven't gotten to listen to many of the 2 on 1 CDs I have just bought, but of the ones I have listened to excerpts from, I seem to like the Super Psychadelics/1000000 Weekend and Hawaii Five-O/Swamp Rock. I have bought about 10 of these twofers, but I always seem to buy more than I get to listen to before I buy again.....I haven't got any of the original lps, but I do recommend these cds--they sound very good given the source material in the times....Thanks for chatting...J Workman theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Superargo Review Date: 24 Dec 2000 10:51:47 -0600 Okay, the polka therapy didn't take. I succumbed and wound up rewatching Superargo last night. It was actually quite an entertaining slice of Eurotrash Spycheese. Better than I remembered. The film sported an excellent crimejazz soundtrack by someone identified only as "Humbert Pinkerton"...a pseudonym if I ever heard one. The score featured a prominent electric guitar/vibraphone theme along with requisite blasts of sleazy horn charts. If anyone knows what Humbert's secret identity really is, I'd appreciate knowing. The scenes of Superargo and his swami levitating, breaking vases telekinetically, and generally being each other's Psychic Best Friends were priceless, as were the scenes of him taking hot lead in his red bulletproof Dr. Dentons. The wires used in the levitation scenes are clearly visible. The mad scientist antagonist, Dr. Juan, was a dead ringer for the Professor from Gilligan's Island. He foments his evil plans from a way-cool castle on a huge cliff which conceals the standard-issue mad scientist underground cave labratory. His army of "faceless giants" comprises a bunch of Italian extras with pantyhose pulled over their heads and wearing colander helmets with lots of vacuum cleaner hose on the sides. They appear to be invincible until Superargo takes them out with a couple of flying scissor kicks and a well-placed zap from his electric raygun. Inspirational Dubbed Dialogue: "The man of the future is the man who develops his spiritual powers!" "I suppose you're wondering why I wear this red costume and black mask? The answer is very simple really..." ...um, because you're a sexually repressed freak who get's aroused by carrying out vigilante justice in a bondage outfit? I give it 3 1/2 spycheese wedges out of a possible 5. After that, I watched Blondie perform on Mad TV. How utterly depressing. Debbie Harry looked like a potbellied Slavic Punk Grandma, and an extremely frail-looking Chris Stein appeared to be nodding off throughout and in danger of being pulled ass over teakettle by the weight of his guitar. "Hope I die before I get old," indeed... -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: betty page Date: 24 Dec 2000 19:03:18 +0100 at posts like these, i wonder why i ever put so much time in it... ;-) anyway, find your answer at the "ANNOTATED eXotica Releases Overview": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm a searchable and annotated hyperdiscography of 2561 "exotica" & related CD's and new LP's. "exotica" & related means: "music talked about in the Exotica Mailing List", including: lounge, exotic music, cocktail music, Space Age Bachelor Pad Music (SABPM), space age pop, incredibly strange music (ISM), Moog, organs, interesting EZ, camp, novelty, cartoon music, celebrity vocals, stupid rock'n'roll, music with sound effects, sleazy or greasy listening, strange covers, strange crossovers, ethnic music, percussion music, bizar instruments, instro pop guitars, outer space exotica, beatnik, spy jazz, crime jazz, nervous jazz, spoken word, TV & film Soundtracks, production music, library records, mambo, samba and other Latin rhythms. Johan ----- > i spied these at a local cd shop here. any ideas what these are? i'm sure >some of these may of been discussed here previously and i just didn't know >what they were at the time. i'm not sure if they are worth picking up but >they look interesting. > > music for gracious living > > electronic toys(this has a naked woman on the cover). > > betty page - jungle girl > danger girl(burlesque) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 24 Dec 2000 14:43:26 -0500 At 10:51 AM 12/24/00 -0600, Matt Marchese wrote: >After that, I watched Blondie perform on Mad TV. How utterly depressing. Debbie >Harry looked like a potbellied Slavic Punk Grandma, and an extremely frail-looking >Chris Stein appeared to be nodding off throughout and in danger of being pulled ass >over teakettle by the weight of his guitar. > >"Hope I die before I get old," indeed... I totally disagree. Although yes, Chris Stein seemed to be NOT playing and leaving it all to the young bucks. But I really really think we have to get away from this idea of young skinny beautiful rock stars. Everybody's getting older. Everybody's going to be fifty sooner or later. What do we want them to do? Just hide somewhere? We have to train ourselves to be able to look at older people onstage playing rock n roll just like we are able to do with jazz or even rhythm n blues. This past summer,.Canada's national pride the Guess Who, did a cross country reunion tour. Sounding hotter than ever. I resisted it and resisted it but finally tuned it to one of their TV appearances and they were irresistible. Yeah they were huge in more ways than one. But the Guess Who were pretty fat even in their skinny days. I've gotten used to Debbie Harry being chubby. I certainly don't think she's become a worse singer. I know this is way off exoticatopic but once more I reiterate, let's try to lose this "hope I die before I get old" thing. Some people should not get onstage when they get older but in most cases that's because they really had no business up there in the first place. Demanding that rock musicians LOOK a certain way is bad and stupid. I think there'd be a lot more good music in the world if we didn't look at people and go "Oh don't tell me he's the guitar player. This is gonna suck!" signed, an old fart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taro HOSHIJIMA Subject: Re: (exotica) betty page Date: 25 Dec 2000 06:47:24 +0900 On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:45:38 +0800 "william" wrote: > kazuko hohki - chante brigitte bardot I think I have a vinyl version of this mini album, but I haven't been able to find it yet in my house. Anyway, she is a founding member of the Frank Chickens (of "We Are Ninja" fame). It's one of her solo projects recorded in France during 1980s. The songs were mostly written by Serge Gainsbourg for BB, if I remember them correctly. Taro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 24 Dec 2000 17:04:55 -0600 alan zweig wrote: > > I totally disagree. Although yes, Chris Stein seemed to be NOT playing and > leaving it all to the young bucks. But I really really think we have to get > away from this idea of young skinny beautiful rock stars. Everybody's getting > older. Everybody's going to be fifty sooner or later. What do we want them > to do? Just hide somewhere? We have to train ourselves to be able to look at > older people onstage playing rock n roll just like we are able to do with jazz > or even rhythm n blues. Ok, I'll admit that I'm a bit spoiled having seen Blondie seven or eight times back in the late 70s, but... I don't consider my statements to be ageist. I just think most performers come off poorly unless their music and their look matures with them. I also feel compelled to point out that separating Rock 'n' Roll from its youth-orientation and accompanying fashion statements is like trying to rip the Hawaiian shirt off the back of Don the Beachcomber. Unthinkable. Before the current Blondie reunion, Debbie was actually making a pretty respectable showing as a jazz chanteuse. I found this side of her to be quite charming and very age-appropriate. So I'm not advocating that anyone hide themselves...rather that they act their age. What you're tagging as ageism, is me saying that people go through different stages in life, and what might be appropriate to someone in their 20s might not be for someone much older. Anyone who's ever seen a 50-year old guy in baggy rap jeans riding on a skateboard or a 70-year old woman in a halter top and thong knows exactly what I'm talkin' 'bout here; there aren't many who can pull it off without looking utterly ridiculous (unless that's the effect they were going for in the first place). While performers like Elvis Costello have aged quite gracefully from angry punks into Burt Bacarach collaborators, Mick Jagger is still trying come off like Young Beelzebub with a cucumber stuffed down the front of his trousers. I find Ms. Harry to be quite attractive when she's NOT trying to dress-up like a teenager. I now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast of "Thrift Store Record Bin Roadshow"...B-) Oh yeah, Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa/Whatever! -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 25 Dec 2000 01:29:07 EST In a message dated 12/24/0 2:43:23 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >Demanding that rock musicians LOOK a certain way is bad and stupid. I >think there'd be a lot more good music in the world if we didn't look at >people and go "Oh don't tell me he's the guitar player. This is gonna suck!" >signed, >an old fart Another old fart weighing in on this...Music and music-making is not the province of the young, lean, and fethingly fashionable. Especially when you can make a good song in your computer. In fact, the older I get the more I realize that most, if not ALL "stars" in the pop arena are genetically selected for waistlines, jawlines, hair, eyes and all the rest of the stuff we find sexually irresistible. But none of us is gonna fuck these people...and most of us in the mature range see the sexploitation inherent in the process....So Debbie and all others who still feel the feeling, you go right on... JB/beginning swimming daily on 1.1.01 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 25 Dec 2000 01:41:33 EST In a message dated 12/24/0 6:10:05 PM, mjmarch@charter.net wrote: >I just think most performers come >off poorly unless their music and their look matures with them. Welll..apparently Mr MJM feels that a look and music can mature hand in hand..NOT the case Mr MJM. Having "matured" I say that your point of view is fucked. (and that I wish I were young forever!) You don't know how you'll turn out (gym and classes be damned) until you get there. and the future is filled with surprises my friend. So...let the musicians play the music as they see fit. Let the brainwashed public judge appearance (as you've seen fit to do). And let the sound dictate the quality, not the bullshit appearance. Stop looking at advertising...unless you're as perfect as you want the "stars" to be. And if you are, post your model perfect picture here so we can all dream as big as UUUUUUUU..JB/doing situps as I type # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 25 Dec 2000 01:59:06 EST In a message dated 12/24/00 3:10:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, mjmarch@charter.net writes: << So I'm not advocating that anyone hide themselves...rather that they act their age. What you're tagging as ageism, is me saying that people go through different stages in life, and what might be appropriate to someone in their 20s might not be for someone much older. >> Would this apply to fans as well as performers? (if so I'll let you be the one to tell folks such as Bomp's Greg Shaw that he's too old to be listening to that childish garage punk) What would the cutoff age be for when someone would have to switch from rock to more "appropriate" music? Would it be like Logan's Run where everyone gets one of those doohickeys in their hand, so when it starts glowing.... Let's face it, for every Jagger or Tina Turner who come off as embarrassing beyond belief, there are still others (Neil Young comes to admittedly sleep-deprived mind, not to mention folks like Eugene Chadbourne, Yo La Tengo, and Sonic Youth who go beyond "rock") that actually still seem to feel the urge (and I'm not just talking about commercial-related desire either) to continue to create music utilizing said art form. I'm not saying that folks should be stuck in a formula-cum-rut and not be allowed to evolve, but if they still honestly feel the need to "rock" and can create obviously "valid" works while doing so, why then should they stop doing it? Rock (and Lounge) Against Ageism, DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 25 Dec 2000 16:22:38 +0100 Hi MJM, JB and Al Zed, you guys sound quite antagonistic here. What a subject to discuss around Christmas, but why not... I'm not a christian. I think you don't disagree that much. In one of those documentaries on John Lennon, recently broadcasted in memory of the 20th anniversary of his death, John says, he doesn't want to end up like Chuck Berry, doing the duck walk on some Las Vegas stage forever. He said that in justification, why he left the Beatles, why he played with Yoko in the Plastic Ono Band, why he was doing performance art instead of only music and why he wanted to live some private life instead of playing the public figure that everybody expected from him. Or in short, why he wanted to change. It was not very hard to understand his point. I thought, what a difference to a Mick Jagger, who never dared or was capable to perform any significant change in his life. At this point even the most dogmatic Stones fan should have had some respect for this Beatle. I think I just appreciate people, who stay vivid and try new things in their lives and I am sure it is possible till into a high age. Seeing the new Blondie video 2 or 3 years ago was definitely a different feeling: I saw tired faces trying to pretend they were young with too much make-up and bleached out video effects. I felt sad for them, especially as I always thought Blondie are sympathetic people. So feeling sad when you see Debbie Harry trying to be Blondie'77 doesn't mean you don't tolerate her being on stage, because she is too old. It's more that you get the feeling that she isn't really where she belongs, maybe because she failed in her jazz chanteuse thing, maybe she thinks she has to fulfill stupid public expectations to still have some success, be it for financial reasons or be it for her self-confidence. It didn't look as if she had much fun with what she was doing, let alone that I didn't like the music. It really looks different to see a 60 year old Willie Nelson on stage or a Johnny Cash or a Herbie Hancock... I guess it also has something to do with what especially Rock music and Punk meant to the generations. Both were a good deal youth revolts, which may lead one to believe that neither Mick Jagger nor Debbie Harry really understand what they were standing for, and now unconsciously betray what they once believed in. And this conclusion may lead to a feeling that you don't want to see them on stage like this. For the sake of music history, if you want. I wouldn't call this ageism. Quite the opposite actually: The message that Mick Jagger confirms with his contemporary life appearances is a sort of ageism. It says in fact, that you have to act as if you were young, to still be accepted. His is the wrong message, not mine when I don't like that. It's ageing celebrities like him, who make us believe, that it is more important to stay sexually attractive in age, than for instance to say something intelligent in an interview, let alone using their fame to support some important issues. It's style reduced to a form without content. Difficult subject... I hope I get old enough to be able to understand what I am talking about here... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 25 Dec 2000 09:41:40 -0600 Moritz R wrote: [...snip...] Apparently my humble opinion on this topic has stirred up some rather personal responses. I certainly don't mind if you disagree with me, however, I don't see any justification whatsoever for attacking me personally on the basis of that opinion. If you get off on watching middle-aged performers acting like teenagers, more power to you. Buy their records, go see their shows. But don't be slapping me with a specious tag like "ageist" in some sort of attempt to delegitimize my viewpoint. Keep that kind of bullshit in politics where it belongs. -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 25 Dec 2000 13:56:43 -0500 At 09:41 AM 12/25/00 -0600, Matt Marchese wrote: > I don't see any justification whatsoever for attacking me personally on the basis of that opinion. > >If you get off on watching middle-aged performers acting like teenagers, more >power to you. You had me, then you lost me. I'm sorry you took it as a personal attack. I usually have my tongue partway inside my cheek when I argue things on this list. But I recognize that's not obvious so if someone takes a disagreement personally, I can see their point of view. On the other hand, you can't ask people not to attack you in one breath and then in the next breath belittle and mischaracterize their opinions. My point is that I don't think that playing rock n roll is synonymous with "acting like teenagers". Merle Haggard still looks good to me playing a cut from his new record on TV. He's not the beautiful young man he once was. He's a grizzled old fart. But it works for me. And while you can certainly make a distinction between country and rock, all I'm saying is that we can perhaps begin to think of rock more like we apparently think of country and then rock performers won't have to move to country music in order to be allowed a longer stage career. And whoever made that point about fans being in their fifties so why can't performers be in their fifties too... right on man!!!! Maybe you're not doing it but somewhere someone is criticizing audience members for being too fat or too middle-aged or too unhip. And I can understand that. I have those reactions too. Look at that old fart on stage. Look at that old hippie in the audience. But I feel guilty about those reactions. I think they're small-minded and elitist and also self-defeating. I still occasionally want to go see bands. I don't want anyone looking at me going "Who brought their Dad???" Nobody should be made to feel like they don't have the right to go see a band. It bothered me when you criticized Debbie Harry for being overweight. You get older, most people gain weight. Women get fat. I don't particularly want to read someone belittling her for that. And if you say "I don't care if she gains weight. I just don't want to see her onstage anymore", well... I don't think I have to finish that sentence. >Buy their records, go see their shows. But don't be slapping me >with a specious tag like "ageist" in some sort of attempt to delegitimize my >viewpoint. Keep that kind of bullshit in politics where it belongs. You referred to that "hope I die before I get old" thing. How do you want me to interpret that after you just criticized a fat, old Debbie Harry for getting onstage? I thought the implication was pretty obvious. I'm sure you'll say that mostly you were criticizing her for still singing the old songs and not singing them very well. You'll point out that you liked it when she sang the more dignified torch songs - the more age-appropriate material. But you mentioned that she'd gotten fat. What's that got to do with the material she was singing? You're saying that it somehow makes it worse that she sang Blondie material with extra weight on her belly? I use the term "ageist" not to delegitimize your viewpoint but simply to label it for the purpose of my semi-facetious subject line. And everything is political. Calling someone too fat or too old to do something, that's political. Merry xmas. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 26 Dec 2000 09:30:56 -0500 > > I totally disagree. Although yes, Chris Stein seemed to be NOT playing and > > leaving it all to the young bucks. Knowing what little I know about Blondie's history, Chris Stein was ill for an extremely long time, so the fact that he is able to get up on stage at all must do quite a lot of hearts good. Young, old, I don't much care, as long as I enjoy the music. Me, I was in a band for a little while and had the time of my life and I am 37 (which is downright decrepit in "Wild in the Streets" years). Although bad looks would have spared me Christopher Cross' music.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 26 Dec 2000 09:30:56 -0500 > > I totally disagree. Although yes, Chris Stein seemed to be NOT playing and > > leaving it all to the young bucks. Knowing what little I know about Blondie's history, Chris Stein was ill for an extremely long time, so the fact that he is able to get up on stage at all must do quite a lot of hearts good. Young, old, I don't much care, as long as I enjoy the music. Me, I was in a band for a little while and had the time of my life and I am 37 (which is downright decrepit in "Wild in the Streets" years). Although bad looks would have spared me Christopher Cross' music.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Bimbo Jet Date: 26 Dec 2000 18:18:14 +0100 First time I found something in the internet on Bimbo Jet: BIMBO JET made an imprevisble link between disco and Cuban/spanish cha cha. This is the result of the immagination of Claude MORGAN, a young producer in the 70's. He traditionnal toured the french label in order to propose them his title, and he met Laurent ROSSI. Oooh, yes that name surely tell you someting....that's the son of TINO ROSSI. Laurent immediatly saw the commercial impact of this song and recorded it with studio musicans...an few hours later, "El bimbo" is in the box. Out in june 1974, at summer time, the title is performed so much it's impossible not to hear it. More then 1,3 million selling in France. But the success break out the frontiers in europe, and even in UK or the States, where it climbed into the Charts. The song popularity is dued to it's speciafical dance (a concept that re-appers later with the lambada for i.e), and to his slang word..."bimbo" (aka Bitch). That song openned the way to other people such as The CHOCOLATE's in 1975 or The TWO MAN SOUND "Quel tal tropical"..... The mystery goes on.... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) new years resolution - stamp out ageism Date: 26 Dec 2000 16:17:04 -0500 wow! xmas up in flames!!!! burn baby burn! i understand both views on this aging rock star situation... i certainly agree with matt when the music they are making SUCKS. regardless of how great it was in the past. they and we must still be able to FEEL the spirit of what they are doing. if the magic does not pass thru us then it is just overweight decrepit rock stars on stage pathetically holding on to a dead dream, however if they are truely rocking out then it is an incredible thing... right now my favorite rock stars are 50+ in years...Question Mark (+ his Mysterians) and Jim Dandy (of Black Oak Arkansas). both still rockin' hard + blowing away most of the youngsters i see and hear today. don't sweat the personal attacks! just like Blondie preached back in the day, DIE YOUNG, STAY PRETTY! maybe she should have taken her own advice, i don't know. flame on bump >Apparently my humble opinion on this topic has stirred up some rather personal >responses. I certainly don't mind if you disagree with me, however, I >don't see >any justification whatsoever for attacking me personally on the basis of that >opinion. > >If you get off on watching middle-aged performers acting like teenagers, more >power to you. Buy their records, go see their shows. But don't be slapping me >with a specious tag like "ageist" in some sort of attempt to delegitimize my >viewpoint. Keep that kind of bullshit in politics where it belongs. ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Coffin Joe Date: 26 Dec 2000 17:59:14 -0500 you GO with the Coffin Joe!!! i have seen only 3 of his films including the two you mention but my favorite one so far is Awakening of the Beast. probably the most bizarre film i have ever seen. its like Jodorowsky having sex with Bunuel while Kenneth Anger films them. another good mexican freakshow is Snake People with Boris Karloff. (with rather creepy exotic soundtrack) footage with Boris was shot by Jack Hill (Coffy, Pit Stop, Spider Baby) while the twisted neatherworld scenes are done by a mexican director/film crew. very interesting clash of filmculture. bump >Talk of the Mexican Horror films prompted me to think of my ALL TIME >favorite import films by "Coffin Joe". >Like "Autopsy of a Ghost" (which I would love to see) the language barrier >prevents me from understanding the dialogue but it doesn't matter. The >scenes are intense, in color and completely surreal. Start out with either >"At Midnight I'll Steal your Soul" or "Hallucinations of a Deranged Mind". >What a title!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bimbo Jet Date: 26 Dec 2000 21:42:03 EST In a message dated 12/26/0 12:16:53 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >BIMBO JET made an imprevisble link between disco and Cuban/spanish cha >cha That's a reasonable assertion. It shouldn't be too hard to find a copy of "El Bimbo" a nice latinized disco rekkid with great background wordless vocals. It falls into my informal "Disceau" category...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) my new years resolution-stop going off-topic Date: 26 Dec 2000 21:15:48 -0600 Apologies to all for yet another off-topic posting. After this, I'm going to shut up and play with my Christmas presents for a couple of weeks and let the list return to some semblance of normalcy. Alan Zweig wrote: >You had me, then you lost me. I'm sorry you took it as a personal attack. I have no beef with you, Alan. I don't mind people who actually take the time to lay out their opinions in a rational and well-considered way. My comments were directed to DJJimmyBee who most thoughtfully characterized my opinions as "fucked" and then went on to make a couple of what I considered to be rather snotty personal comments. Maybe he had his tongue firmly buried in his cheek as well, but I couldn't tell. I should have quoted his response when posting my reply. Too much eggnog sloshing around in my brain, I guess. Sorry. >On the other hand, you can't ask people not to attack you in one breath and >then in the next breath belittle and mischaracterize their opinions. True, but remember that I was belittling Jimmy's opinions...not yours...B-) >My point is that I don't think that playing rock n roll is synonymous with >"acting like teenagers". Nor do I necessarily, but most performers tend to evolve over time and very few can do what they did at 25 when they turn 50. R. Moritz did a far better job than I did of summing up my depression at seeing Debbie Harry abandon what I thought was a very promising new musical direction in order to rehash her glory days with Blondie. I saw Ms. Harry perform many times and even met her at a Bomp Records party back in the late 70s. I was shocked by her appearance the other night. It's hard to let go of your youthful images of people. If that's my bad, so be it...I'm not going to spend a lot of time agonizing over my opinion of a celebrity who I'm sure couldn't give a rat's ass what I think of her. >Nobody should be made to feel like they don't have the right to go see a band. I agree, and as far as I know, I never said or implied anything like this. It truly makes no difference to me if Blondie makes a bazillion dollars off their current tour and album, but none of that money will be coming from me. >It bothered me when you criticized Debbie Harry for being overweight. You >get older, most people gain weight. Women get fat. I criticized Debbie for doing something that, in my opinion did not show her in the best possible light, and I know a lot of middle-aged women who aren't fat in the slightest and wouldn't be too happy to hear you generalize like that! >But you mentioned that she'd gotten fat. What's that got to do with the >material she was singing? You're saying that it somehow makes it worse >that she sang Blondie material with extra weight on her belly? I was unhappy to see some of my fondest teenage memories thrust into the harsh spotlight of time and I was depressed by a band that doesn't seem to have anything new to say after 20 years. I'd also seen some photos of her taken last year and she'd clearly gained a bunch of weight since those pics were taken. Imagine Bettie Page coming out of retirement today to do a Playboy spread. No doubt there are some people who'd really enjoy it, but I wouldn't. Would that somehow make me a bad person? >And everything is political. Only because we live in a society where everything is rapidly becoming politicized, which I feel is quite unfortunate. I think that older people should be free to do whatever they want unless it threatens my health or personal well-being, but I also reserve the right to criticize those activities if they choose to perform them in the public eye. BTW, Clem Burke looked GREAT! Ok, I'm outta here... -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) my new years resolution-stop going off-topic Date: 26 Dec 2000 22:35:21 EST In a message dated 12/26/00 7:15:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, mjmarch@charter.net writes: << Imagine Bettie Page coming out of retirement today to do a Playboy spread. >> Actually, I didn't think the Nancy Sintara (another over-40) spread was that bad... Going off-topic and into a ditch, DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) my new years resolution-stop going off-topic Date: 27 Dec 2000 11:15:20 EST In a message dated 12/26/0 10:15:58 PM, mjmarch@charter.net wrote: >My comments were directed to DJJimmyBee who most thoughtfully >characterized my opinions as "fucked" and then went on to make a couple >of what I considered to be rather snotty personal comments. Well, you paid me back with THAT opinion >True, but remember that I was belittling Jimmy's opinions...not >yours...B-) Oh no! Now you're one up on me...Damn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Blow Up Date: 26 Dec 2000 19:50:16 +0100 my personal fave is the recent third volume, but you can't go wrong with any of them. more about volume 3 later... Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Betty Page CDs Date: 27 Dec 2000 13:07:51 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:45:38 +0800 >From: "william" >Subject: (exotica) betty page > > i spied these at a local cd shop here. any ideas what these are? > betty page - jungle girl / danger girl(burlesque) These are stock music cues from the Chappell Music Library. This particular stock music library is the best for vintage suspense and crime related music. We use a lot of it in our Weekend Pussy Hunt show on icebox.com. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Casa Nostra" 12.22.00 Date: 27 Dec 2000 16:56:39 EST Casa Nostra airs on WMBR-FM, 88.1 Cambridge, MA @MIT Fridays @ midnight We play Loungecore, Breakbeat, House, SABPM, Exotica, and Popnouveau Casa Nostra is hosted & programmed by James Botticelli Wonderboy-Let The Music Play (Barry White reborn) Beanfield-Corso Ian Pooley-Bay Of Plenty Joe Harnell-Desafinado Ursala 1000-Destination Paradise SunnyFace-Temptation -Shirley Bassey-Where Do I Begin? (remix) -Namaste-Star Of The Pettier -Armando Trovajoli-Masquerade (Gak Sato remix) -Caesar Frazier-Hicky Burr ('73 funk instro) -Himiko Kikuchi-What's Baby Singing (Glucklish 4) -Soulstance-Room 26 (Looking For Lalo EP) The Quartet-Tribute To WF Zeb-Artichoke Funk Mo' Horizons-Flyin' Away Marvin Gaye-T Plays It Cool La Plata-I Love You Too Much Nicola Conte-Jet Sounds -Transistors-Mission On Venus (Gak Sato Mix) -Michael Airhart-Shapes From Da Windy City (disco-house 12") -Towa Tei-Congratulations! (On The Finest Turntable In The World) -Masters At Work-Brazilian Beat Is Back Again (Featuring Lilliana) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 27 Dec 2000 16:22:07 -0600 This is one of the coolest articles I've ever read in a medical journal. You can read the whole thing at: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/321/7276/1577 Here's the premise of the article... ========================================================= BMJ 2000;321:1577-1579 ( 23 December ) Music to be born to, music to die to People say that birth and death are lonely events as you are the only one experiencing them at that very moment. But music can be a birth or death companion. We asked a range of contributors which music they would choose at either end of life. ========================================================= So, what would *you* pick as entrance and/or exit music? -Indy Rutks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 27 Dec 2000 15:06:38 -0800 (PST) If its just one song, I'd enter to Lolita Ya Ya OST and exit to Star Dust by Tommy Dorsey with a young Blue Eyes on vocals. If its an album, I'd come in listening to Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys and exit to Rubber Soul, US version, by the Beatles Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck So, what would *you* pick as entrance and/or exit music? -Indy Rutks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 27 Dec 2000 20:26:10 -0500 > So, what would *you* pick as entrance and/or exit music? With the risk of being thought of as a Heaven's Gate cult member, waiting for the next comet to arrive, my choice for my exit song is Sun Ra's 'Space is the Place' I think that would be a good song to 'let go' to. And as for my entrance song ..... well .... if I'm ever reincarnated, I think it would be nice to renter this world to the theme song from 'Welcome Back Kotter' Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 12/25/00 Date: 27 Dec 2000 18:42:40 -0800 The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 12/25/00 Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. Go directly to the show page here, http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Hit the personal Show pages here, http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp Slight delay in this week's show appearing. Sorry about that. Holiday rush and all. This show will be online until Late Monday evening on the 1st of January. It's a fun show this week too for I would like to present, "THE ELVIS SHOW" to you. In the process of putting together an end of the year show I decided upon a theme. For months now I have wanted to do an Elvis show. There was so much material to sift through, so be forewarned that there will be a second Elvis show in a couple of months. There's a good chunk of Elvis material performed by Presley himself (all rare except for the silly Do The Clam number). Some noted points will be the Dialog pieces (check out the 2nd one where Elvis really gets mad), the laughing and general wackiness on Polk a Little Sock Salad, Track 13 where there is a nice collage of Elvis cussing and foolin' around from various studio outtakes, the try and try again recording of King of the Whole Wide World (which is a kick song period), and the great center bridge on Hurt where Elvis lets out a few vulgar emotions. Other notable tracks include the comedy routine of Heartbreak Hotel by Stan Freberg and Company, the fan song Elvis by Julie Lang, The Swedish Elvis Eilert Pilarm doing a medley that deserves an encore, Wesley Willis sings about Elvis, and one of my favs, Johnny Murrell's Elvis In Heaven (such cheese). So, I hope you enjoy and next week I'll be playing the usual smorgasbord of treats (including some rare new pieces just sent my way). Have a fantastic New Year, Viva Las Vegas Baby! Otis Uh, Thank ya very much, Thank You.. Now on to the King's Playlist: Elvis Presley - Dialog (September 2, 1974) - 01 Elvis Presley - Polk a Little Sock Salad (Studio Recording - August 14, 1970) Wesley Willis - Elvis Presley Sammy Davis Jr. - In The Ghetto Bob Rivers - There's A Santa Who Looks a Lot Like Elvis Stan Freberg - Heartbreak Hotel Elvis Presley - Dialog (September 2, 1974) - 02 Elvis Presley - Do The Clam Julie Lang - Elvis Ivan Gregory - Elvis Presley Blues The Hoosier Hotshots - Hound Dog Elvis Presley (various studio and live outtakes) Eilert Pilarm - Megamix Pinkard and Bowden - Elvis Was A Narc Dennis Leary - Elvis and I Ann Margret - Heartbreak Hotel Elvis Presley - King of the Whole Wide World (Studio Recording) The Johnnys - Elvisly Yours Elvis Presley - Hurt (Studio Recording - September 5, 1976) Johnny Murrell - Elvis In Heaven Frank Zappa - Elvis Has Just Left The Building Hollyridge Strings - Heartbreak Hotel / Don't Be Cruel Arthur Lyman - Blue Hawaii Mr. Otis F. Odder The Friendly Persuasion Radio Show Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com Issue #19 is out now! WEIRD AL YANKOVIC is on the cover. This issue features a big interview with WEIRD AL YANKOVIC, as well as with VIC MIZZY and FAY LOVSKY. Other articles cover XAVIER CUGAT, JEAN JACQUES PERRY and the ONDIOLINE, records about DRINKS AND DINING, the career and records of SOUPY SALES, and much, much more! Our big catch this issue is an interview with the "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" girl from the Herb Alpert and the TJB LP of the same name!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mkg@calle22.com Subject: (exotica) Ageing and Santo Date: 27 Dec 2000 23:39:52 -0800 The best remedy for old age? A wrestler's mask. Nobody cared that El Santo was overweight. With his iron tummy he beat all those bad guys... Has anyone seen the Santo Fotonovelas? Those are even more exotic than the films. They were made in México and distributed all over Latin America. Well... I'm not sure all over... but they arrived here in Colombia. The backdrops of the stories were drawn so the characters were cut from photographs... they are really surreal because most of the time two characters that are supposed to be talking are seen from different perspectives. And let's not get into those story lines... since they had no limit on how many locations they could use or anything like that... man, they let those imaginations loose. Witches, kings, zombies, vampires, werewolves... A friend suspects that the writing team had some peyote mixed in their morning coffee. And there were other fotonovelas put out by the same team... There was a cowboy called El Valiente... and it was just like Santo, only that he rode a horse and had a gun. In one of his adventures he discovers that a gang of women that rob banks is not a gang, but a guy that uses latex masks as a disguise. And this was 16 years before Face-Off proved scientifically that putting a different face and confusing everyone can be done!!! For more about mexican wrestling fotonovelas you can see http://www.santostreet.com/Santostreet/comicpg.htm Cheers, Manuel P.S. Happy New Year. Have a very Santo 2001. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Dean Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 28 Dec 2000 12:54:22 -0600 > > So, what would *you* pick as entrance and/or exit music? If I could be reborn, it would be to Hendrix's If Six Was Nine. Really loud. Particularly appropriate would be the heartbeat/footsteps effect. A good exit song might be Sun Ra's Nuclear War. "If they push that button, your ass has got to go . . . . What you gonna do, without your ass?" paul dean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 28 Dec 2000 22:55:52 +0100 ageing, dying... this year's chrissmas holydays subjects have a dark tone... for the few lonely souls still on the list. OK... i'd probably like to be born with my mother from Rarotonga quietly singing the "good-morning"-song only for me. and on the deathbed I probably want to hear something like Celine Dion or Elton John, something that makes me rather want to go than to stay... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 28 Dec 2000 17:01:38 -0500 At 10:55 PM 12/28/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > >and on the deathbed I probably want to hear something like Celine Dion >or Elton John, something that makes me rather want to go than to stay... I was ignoring this thread but that's an excellent choice Moritz! Better still, if you could do a murder-suicide thing. Kill Celine and then turn the gun on yourself. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Ventures and Surf Date: 28 Dec 2000 14:06:17 -0800 (PST) OK. Someone was asking about The Ventures and the quality of the sound? I just picked up the 2-fer “Surfing” and “The Colorful Ventures” and the quality seems to be OK. This may not be on the same label as the others. The only other Venture CD I have is “The ventures Play Telstar-The Loney Bull and others/Ventures In Space” And that’s OK too. Question: I saw an expensive import of “The Colorful Ventures”. The record in mono and in stereo with a few bonus tracks. What’s up with that? Glad I found mine in the used bin! I’ve always wanted to get into surf music Picked up some Del-Fi surf CD’s, Dick Dale and the Blue Hawaiians. I even did an all surf/exotica show last week on the first day of winter and played a lot of this stuff. The Ventures are always talked about in these circles but I think I prefer some of these other groups on these comps. Surf Rider and Pipeline done by the Lively Ones seem to be a lot more exciting. And The Blue Hawaiians are incredible. When they are hard or soft. Does not matter. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html(On Real Audio) -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 28 Dec 2000 19:23:06 -0800 (PST) Hey Mo. Great comment. I’m still laughing! Time to weigh in: Born to: Enya’s Watermark CD. Die to: JS Bach’s St Matthew’s Passion. Or almost anything by Bach. Oh. And the voices of my wife and children. Because the last thing's got to count. -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soy Sauce Music CDR Track Listing Date: 28 Dec 2000 20:32:23 -0800 <<>> Speaking of oriental tracks, I came across this very nice LP from Jack Diamond which I have never seen or heard of and have found no info on the artist. Still nicely perfumed with his trademark scent of nicotine and incense. :) I love the discovery of collecting LP's. One the one hand, there are all the familiar ones, which seem to pop up all the time. Then, just when you start to think that you've seen em all (of course, that will never happen) you dig deeper and reach another level. EAST TO WEST Paul Mark and his Orchestra Imperial LP 9120 recorded live at the Oasis Nightclub in Honolulu, looks like late 50s. instruments: organ and celeste; guitar; bass; bongos; percussions; samisen (similar to a banjo); koto and an occasional vocalist. see the cover here: http://www.basichip.com/new_arrivals/mark.jpg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Soy Sauce Music CDR Track Listing Date: 28 Dec 2000 21:26:23 -0800 At 08:32 PM 28-12-00 -0800, "Basic Hip" wrote: >I love the discovery of collecting LP's. One the one hand, there are all >the familiar ones, which seem to pop up all the time. Then, just when you >start to think that you've seen em all (of course, that will never happen) >you dig deeper and reach another level. I totally agree! And for me it usually happens at a thrift store when I can actually afford to take a risk. It makes the search that much more rewarding! I ran into one with a very intriguing title this weekend: One Night of Madness, Instrumental Novelties by Van Lynn and His Orchestra (Decca DL 8065). I bet the cover is great! Anyone ever see the cover? Unfortunately it was along the lines of orchestral pop bon bons, Arthur Fiedler, etc. (not what I was hoping but okay for 80 cents). Of course, sometimes you find something you wouldn't have otherwise have been interested in...except that someone on this list makes you aware of a title and you get it! Wow! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Exotic Xmas Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:38:07 EST My xmas haul was loaded with exoticity. Got the Tiki Book, the Shag book, and the Shag illustrated drink guide. Got another book on vintage cocktails too. Took my gift certif down to Amoeba and got Miles Davis' Blue Moods and now I'm listening to his version of "Nature Boy" with vibes. Swank. Also got Bola Sete with Vince Guaraldi. Gorgeous Brazilian guitar (up there with Joao, better than Laurindo) and Vince's fine touch. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Vic Mizzy Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:38:06 EST The lastest issue of Cool and Strange has an interview with Vic Mizzy and he mentions that he's working on two compilations of his music, one CD of just his TV cues and themes and one of his movie work. I've been meaning to mention that his theme for Don Knotts' The Love God is very cool - electric bass and guitar with all those quirky, jazzy Vic Mizzy touches. There's another cue later in the film over a montage of Don's character dressed in a variety of super-suave mod outfits and being escorted by voluptuous babes that also has a swinging, Now Sound feel. Can't wait to see those collections. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ventures and Surf Date: 29 Dec 2000 02:38:51 -0500 At 02:06 PM 12/28/00 -0800, Domenic Ciccone wrote: > > >The Ventures are always talked about in these circles but I think I prefer some of these other groups on these comps. Surf Rider and Pipeline done by the Lively Ones seem to be a lot more exciting. The Ventures aren't surf. I find surf gets boring fast. I prefer the Ventures who, like I said, aren't surf. I won't argue that surf bands play a more exciting brand of surf music than the Ventures but that would partly be attributable to the fact that the Ventures aren't surf. Also, I much prefer the records the Ventures did in the later sixties when they REALLY weren't surf. Having said all that, I can't imagine too many surf records more exciting than the Ventures doing "Solar Race" or "Out of Limits" on their Ventures in Space LP. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Soy Sauce Music CDR Track Listing Date: 29 Dec 2000 02:50:47 -0500 At 08:32 PM 12/28/00 -0800, Basic Hip wrote: > >I love the discovery of collecting LP's. One the one hand, there are all >the familiar ones, which seem to pop up all the time. Then, just when you >start to think that you've seen em all (of course, that will never happen) >you dig deeper and reach another level. I'm not sure it is a deeper level since I always assume that one man's rarity is another man's familiar record. For all you know that Paul Mark record is in every Goodwill bin in some city. Or maybe not. I'm still surprised how certain records always go for "real" money on ebay. It seems like certain artists or particular records get what I call "identified" and then almost instantly they become just rare enough that you have to pay for them IF you find them. It's an interesting phenomenon given the relatively small number of "seekers" that we're talking about. It just takes a few people. We read about this record on this list. At the next record show, a few of us ask a few dealers "Have you ever seen this Paul Mark record?" Yeah they have. They left it at home because in five years no one's even picked it up to look at it. But at the next show, it'll be there and it'll have a twenty dollar sticker on it to replace the one dollar sticker. I'm only looking on that other layer now. And I'm finding stuff. But everytime I do, it costs something. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) are these soundtracks groovy? Date: 29 Dec 2000 03:11:34 -0500 I like groovy soundtracks. I saw these two but didn't buy them. Anyone have an opinion? Buck Rogers "in Space" or something like that. By my hero Stu Phillips but it's 1979 and I was afraid that would be too late for him. Three Bites of the Apple by Eddy Manson. The appearance of David McCallum on the soundtrack attracted me but I've gotten burned so many times thinking something would have groovy content. So, you soundtrack experts.... AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) are these soundtracks groovy? Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:33:11 -0800 At 03:11 AM 29-12-00 -0500, Alan wrote: >Buck Rogers "in Space" or something like that. By my hero Stu Phillips but >it's 1979 and I was afraid that would be too late for him. The soundtrack to Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (no, not Duck Dodgers in the 23rd and a half Century) on MCA. There are some orchestral cues and so on, but also disco type stuff. If you liked the Battlestar Galactica soundtrack (which, I believe, was also Stu Phillips) you might like half of this album. Its been a while since I pulled mine out, but that is my recollection. Not Groovy at all. Where is Twiki when I need him...or at least Dr. Huer?! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ventures and Surf Date: 29 Dec 2000 08:14:15 -0500 For you Ventures fans, I would like to suggest Laika and the Cosmonauts from Finland, who don't strike me as a strict Surf band, either. Start with the Amazing Colossal Band, which has a rather nice version of the "Get Carter" theme as well as great originals, such as "Delayrium". Currently listening to: Like, Long Hair - Paul Revere and the Raiders Hey Sah-Lo-Ney - Mickey Lee Lane (does anyone have a copy of this?) Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 29 Dec 2000 08:48:53 -0500 Born to: The Anvil Chorus played on my rear end...hey wait, that happened already! OK, then perhaps "Lenox Avenue" by William Grant Still, which is not only a very striking piece of music, but it also is the street my father was born on (there don't seem to be any songs called "West Street", where I grew up and "West End Blues" seems to be stretching the point a bit). If I ever do pass away (don't jinx it, I have a bet going on with a friend), there is always "I Won't Be Back" by the Caravans, which is a rousing Gospel number, but I could also choose "Sinfonia Concertante" by Peter Schickele (P.D.Q. Bach), because I would rather hear my loved ones (provided anyone is there) than crying at that particular moment. For those who haven't heard this piece, it's hard for me not to smile when I hear an orchestra playing Classical music augmented by out-of-tune lute and bagpipes. "You will learn about life...when you play the game of Life..." - Bradley, Milton Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) If any of you are Northern Soul fans... Date: 29 Dec 2000 08:57:14 -0500 ...you are missing a good deal on Ebay right now. "Karate" by the Emperor's (that's how they spelled it!). http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1400680720 When you hear it, you will say, "Hey isn't this, "Everybody's Everything" by Santana?" and you'd be right, because the song is credited to Moss-Bacon, but it has different lyrics. Put on your dancing pants, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Bettie Page CDs Date: 29 Dec 2000 10:35:13 EST In a message dated 12/29/00 8:12:39 AM US Eastern Standard Time, bigshot@spumco.com writes: << These are stock music cues from the Chappell Music Library. This particular stock music library is the best for vintage suspense and crime related music. We use a lot of it in our Weekend Pussy Hunt show on icebox.com. >> I have the Bettie Page - Jungle Girl CD. It appears that the LP has a few more tracks on it than the CD. The titles for the bonus tracks are printed on the jacket, but not the artists, so I have no idea who recorded the bonus tracks. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Gas music from Jupiter Date: 29 Dec 2000 10:32:49 -0500 http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/space/12/19/jupiter.sounds/index.html Spacecraft tunes in to the music of Jupiter (CNN) -- NASA's Cassini space probe is listening to an eerie melody as it approaches the giant planet Jupiter. ( Hear a .wav file at above URL) The robot ship is picking up low-radio frequency patterns that, when converted to audible waves, suggest the faint strains of some alien folk tune. But these signals aren't signs of extraterrestrial life. The waves happen as the solar wind, a thin gas of charged particles that streams from the sun, crashes into the powerful magnetic field enveloping Jupiter. The energy of the resulting bow shock likely creates the electronic wave oscillations, according to NASA scientists. Jupiter's boisterous bow shock resembles the sonic boom from supersonic jet airplanes as they break the sound barrier above Earth. Cassini picked up the space "sounds" at a distance of 23 million km (14 million miles) from Jupiter on December 8. ==== For more Space Sounds, check out: http://body-mind.com/1bmrindexSPACE.htm No comment about this product description found at the above URL: RING'S OF URANUS: Now one of our most popular Space Sound CDs. Like being inside 5,000 miles wide Tibetan Bowls and Bells. Extremely centering and relaxing. lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoTone@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 29 Dec 2000 12:00:08 EST has anyone else got this second Lounge CD with Later mag? I've only listened to it once, but I like it even more than the first- and I loved that one. It even has the track they used over the closing credits of the original People's Court ie Judge Wapner era. A worthwhile purchase. jon cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J o h n Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 29 Dec 2000 09:11:53 -0800 (PST) Is Later mag available in most stores? Online? I can't find it at the bigger stores, al a Borders, B&N, etc. in Boston. Thx! JC --- RoTone@aol.com wrote: > > has anyone else got this second Lounge CD with Later > mag? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Taub Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 29 Dec 2000 12:16:46 -0500 Not suprised. I tried all around Boston to find the first one. The = closest I came was at a B&N that said they threw the discs away because = they kept coming off the covers- I was completely bummed. Eric On Friday, December 29, 2000, J o h n wrote: > >Is Later mag available in most stores? Online? I can't >find it at the bigger stores, al a Borders, B&N, etc. >in Boston. Thx! JC > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) are these soundtracks groovy? Date: 29 Dec 2000 18:10:04 -0000 >Three Bites of the Apple by Eddy Manson. The appearance of David McCallum >on the soundtrack attracted me but I've gotten burned so many times >thinking something would have groovy content. i got this a while ago for two bucks. it's barely worth even that. there's one track that i thought was o.k. and the others i found wretchedly dull: your standard soundtrack Muzak from the early-mid 60's. From the same style and era you could probably find the "Oh Dad, Poor Dad..." OST and the "How Sweet It Is" OST for around the same price, and they're much better. but, hey, this is only my humble opinion. others may like this OST more. never heard the that stu phillips score but 1979 is beyond my OST cutoff date (with rare exceptions) hope this helps and good luck vinyl hunting jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 29 Dec 2000 10:13:49 -0800 (PST) I was at Tower Boston on Newbury Street yesterday. They had 2 Later's. Both without CD's. The one in Haaaaavaaad Yad? zip. not may mags there anymore. And it's the January one. This one is going to be hard to find. Domenic -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 29 Dec 2000 13:15:48 EST What stupid bookstore throws CDs away?!? I'll check the stores here tomorrow where I got mine. If there are any left, I'll buy them up and offer them to the list. It's too good not to miss. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 29 Dec 2000 11:03:01 -0800 (PST) Well, I called Tower in Burlington MA and they had 2 copies. holding em now.Sometimes it pays to live in the un-hip suburbs. Eric. I got your copy for ya pal. I'm babysitting WJUL before the Hockey game. If real audio's working check it out between 3-5 PM EST. I'm playing it! Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html(On Real Audio) -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bar Review Pages and Left Orbit Temple Date: 29 Dec 2000 13:51:31 -0500 Hi everyone I thought I'd fill you guys in on the status of my two main projects - The Tiki Bar Review Pages and Left Orbit Temple, since both of them may have appeal to list members, and since both of them have news to report. Pardon me if this is considered off-topic. It has been commented on that I have not updated the Tiki Bar Review Pages in a few months. This is mainly due to the fact that 'real life' has reared it's ugly head and thrown four solid months of 70-80 hour work weeks at me! This torture has recently ended, and now that I have some time to myself again, I do plan to get caught up with the web site in the next few weeks. Have a peek at it after New Years and you will find plenty of new stuff that has been piling up on my desk since this summer! Remember the quick URL for the Tiki Bar Review Pages: http://www.tydirium.net (this is much easier than that long geocities URL!). I do want to mention that I still have a complete inventory of Tiki Mugs and statues as seen on the sales page, and orders are still being accepted! The other reason that the pages haven't been updated much lately is that I have been focusing my energies on completing my multimedia project, Left Orbit Temple. After three years of work, the CD - titled Prolusion - is now available. It contains fifty-three minutes of music (composed by yours truly with help from about a dozen friends - some famous, some not), along with a CD-ROM section (that you can look at on your computer) which contains an art gallery on CD. Nine artists show off their work, including David 'Duke' Carter whos work you may know from the book 'The Art of Tiki'. More information on Left Orbit Temple can also be found at http://www.tydirium.net - once you're there, click on the 'Left Orbit Temple' icon rather than the 'Tiki Bar Review Pages' icon! The disc is $12 postpaid, and can be ordered directly from me! The music is not strictly in the retro, exotica, or surf genres that appeal to so many readers of the Tiki Bar Review Pages and the Exotica Digest, but I think that many of you will enjoy it, as it does have an exotic flavor to it while occupying a space in a more electronic/modern-tribal/soundtrack-ish genre that does appeal to the tastes of many list members. Have a great New Year, much Aloha to you all! Iorana! James Teitelbaum of The Tiki Bar Review Pages and Left Orbit Temple .... - www.tydirium.net: * Tydirium Multimedia * Left Orbit Temple * Blue Harvest * Tiki Bar Review Pages ...and my own weird ramblings and tour journals # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Taub Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 29 Dec 2000 17:24:02 -0500 Wow! Domenic, that's so great. Thanks.=20 I just got in and missed your heads up on WJUL.=20 Let's see if I have any recordings that I can copy for you as thanks. I'= ll email you off list after the first. Have An Exotic New Year All! Eric=20 On Friday, December 29, 2000, Domenic Ciccone = wrote: > >Eric. I got your copy for ya pal. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Flanger Date: 29 Dec 2000 18:05:47 -0500 I really like this Flanger CD I found (Midnight Sound). Does this mean I'll also probably like Burnt Friedman and Atom Heart? (if you don't know what I'm talking about, you can take it as a philosophical question.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Flanger Date: 29 Dec 2000 18:34:01 EST In a message dated 12/29/00 5:11:43 PM Central Standard Time, azed@pathcom.com writes: << I really like this Flanger CD I found (Midnight Sound). Does this mean I'll also probably like Burnt Friedman and Atom Heart? >> Can't speak for Burnt Friedman, but Atom Heart's music is different, in all his different guises. If you like Flanger, though, you're sure to like The Cinematic Orchestra. At least, I sure do. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) Ventures, etc. Date: 29 Dec 2000 19:23:58 -0500 I have several of the 2on1 CD on OneWay. They do sound very good. I particularly enjoy the twofer of Hawaii 5-0/Swamp Rock, which includes Suspicious Minds and Proud Mary. I also have several of Dick Dale (He calls his fans dickheads...) later efforts, Tribal Thunder and Unknown Territory. These are excellent--the man rocks and hasn't lost a step. BTW, Misirlou (sp?) by Mr.Dale would make a great music to be born to. We Have All the Time in the World, by Louis Armstrong from the OHMSS Bond OST seems appropriate exit music....I will have to give this topic more serious thought and reply again soon. Thanks, as always, for the forum to blab...J Workman theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ZuZu" Subject: (exotica) Ray McVay Sound/Orchestra Date: 30 Dec 2000 00:41:33 -0000 Hi all, Does anyone know whether or not the Ray McVay of the Ray McVay Sound and of ...and his Orchestra is the same one that's currently touring as the new bandleader of the Glenn Miller Orchestra UK? Seems too close to be a coincidence. The Glenn Miller Orchestra UK bandleader has also played with a Rock 'n' Roll package that included Eddie Cochrane (gave up his seat in the car for Eddie the night he died), Gene Vincent and Billy Fury, and played on Gene Vincent's Pistol Packin' Mama (tenor sax rock solo). Any info appreciated. Cheers, ZuZu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) cover scan wanted Tony Hatch: "Hatchback" Date: 30 Dec 2000 13:56:42 +0100 is there anyone who can provide me with artwork (color front cover, traycard) for the cd by Tony Hatch: "Hatchback"? maybe somebody is looking for something similar, and we can help eachother out? thanx! Johan - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 30 Dec 2000 14:05:33 EST Sorry, fellas, but no "Later"s left round here. Went to both B&N and Borders this morning. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) timothy leary Date: 30 Dec 2000 13:28:38 -0700 a while ago i heard this radio broadcast show that profiled some pioneering radio station or DJ or something. anyway, when they got to the late 60's they played a snippet of a sixties psych tune where the chorus was timothy leary sung over and over again: "timotheeeee leareeeeee timotheeeee leareeeee... etc." anyone know where this song is from and who does it and where i could find it? i actually have the snippet on tape still. but its not doing me much good - want to hear the whole song! any help is appreciated! kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: (exotica) Later CD Date: 30 Dec 2000 17:30:10 -0500 I picked two of these up in a Cinci suburb. One, I'm keeping, but one I'd like to trade it if anyone's interested. Let me know. Thanks, Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) The Magic Record? Date: 30 Dec 2000 20:41:18 -0500 Here's an interesting question that floated in through the e-mail. Sounds like a nifty record. >I am looking for a 78 rpm record I had as a child. I believe the >singer's name was Peter Lynn Hayes and the name of the record was The Magic >Record. It went something like--I'm Genie the magic record and I can sound >like (a train or other sounds). >Do you recognize this song? If so, do you know where I might locate it? Anyone? Thanks. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) timothy leary Date: 30 Dec 2000 20:45:30 -0500 >a while ago i heard this radio broadcast show that profiled some pioneering >radio station or DJ or something. anyway, when they got to the late 60's >they played a snippet of a sixties psych tune where the chorus was timothy >leary sung over and over again: "timotheeeee leareeeeee timotheeeee >leareeeee... etc." > >anyone know where this song is from and who does it and where i could find >it? Isn't that "Ride My See-Saw" by The Moody Blues? Actually, I like Bongwater's version better, but that's not the question, I suppose. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) timothy leary Date: 30 Dec 2000 20:44:30 -0600 m.ace wrote: > >a while ago i heard this radio broadcast show that profiled some pioneering > >radio station or DJ or something. anyway, when they got to the late 60's > >they played a snippet of a sixties psych tune where the chorus was timothy > >leary sung over and over again: "timotheeeee leareeeeee timotheeeee > >leareeeee... etc." > > > >anyone know where this song is from and who does it and where i could find > >it? > > Isn't that "Ride My See-Saw" by The Moody Blues? Right band, wrong song... Their tune that references Leary is "Legend Of A Mind". -Indy Rutks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Magic Record? Date: 30 Dec 2000 20:58:32 -0600 m.ace wrote: > Here's an interesting question that floated in through the e-mail. Sounds > like a nifty record. > > >I am looking for a 78 rpm record I had as a child. I believe the > >singer's name was Peter Lynn Hayes and the name of the record was The Magic > >Record. It went something like--I'm Genie the magic record and I can sound > >like (a train or other sounds). > >Do you recognize this song? If so, do you know where I might locate it? The singer's name may be Peter Lind Hayes. All I remember about him is that he and his wife were frequently a celebrity couple on the game show "Tattletales". Beyond that, I learned from IMDb that he was in "The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T.", among other things. A quick search on gemm.com found some PLH 45's, but no Magic Record. -Indy Rutks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) More fun with budget labels Date: 30 Dec 2000 22:12:06 EST I wouldn't have noticed this otherwise, but I found these two LPs on the same day. One is called "Percussion Sounds and Harmonica", is credited to Eddy Manson and is on the Spin-O-Rama label. The other is called "Harmonica and Percussion", is credited to Boris Draper and is on the Coronet label. The track titles are identical but in a different sequence. I just listened to "Old Devil Moon" from both LPs and have concluded that the arrangement and instrumentation from both LPs is identical, but there are subtle differences in the recordings. One can draw one's own conclusions. This could mean that the same arranger was working for both labels. Or, maybe the two labels were somehow affiliated and wanted to expend the effort for one LP but produce two? We will never know... Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) FREE E-Magine CD Date: 31 Dec 2000 11:23:05 EST Currently, E-Magine Entertainment is offering a free sampler CD on their website, www.emagine.com. Not everything on it will be of interest to this list, but there are several tracks that may hold appeal. For example: * Waldeck -- if you like Thievery Corporation, you'll probably like this * The Diablo Project -- self-described as "twisted lounge music" * Operatica -- opera meets electronic music Plus, it has a naked lady on the cover. Oh, and it's free. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) The Magic Record? Date: 31 Dec 2000 11:30:03 -0500 At 08:41 PM 12/30/00 -0500, m.ace wrote: > >>I am looking for a 78 rpm record I had as a child. I believe the >>singer's name was Peter Lynn Hayes and the name of the record was The Magic >>Record. It went something like--I'm Genie the magic record and I can sound >>like (a train or other sounds). Peter Lind Hayes with James Carroll's Orchestra: Genie, The Magic Record on Decca (DV 90002) 78rpm. I've got it recorded on the second of the tapes I submitted to the Exoticaring music swap thingy. I don't know where in the world that tape is now, nor do I know what I did with the original 78 (I thing it's gone missing somewhere between Texas & Mass.). And it is a cute yet verging on the annoying record. If anyone ripped my tape to mp3, perhaps they can send you the cut. Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) FREE E-Magine CD -- Oops, wrong URL Date: 31 Dec 2000 11:44:21 EST Try www.emaginemusic.com. My apologies. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) FREE E-Magine CD -- Oops, wrong URL Date: 31 Dec 2000 12:02:00 -0500 Rod wrote: > Try www.emaginemusic.com. My apologies. There is a catch. They asked for five e-mail addresses which sounds like they want us to help them spam. Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) FREE E-Magine CD -- Oops, wrong URL Date: 31 Dec 2000 12:10:04 EST In a message dated 12/31/00 12:02:28 PM, telstar@albedo.net writes: << There is a catch. They asked for five e-mail addresses which sounds like they want us to help them spam. >> I signed up for this a couple months ago, and I did get one e-mail before Christmas promoting the site, so yes, you and anyone else are likely to get an e-mail, but you can remove yourself. Or, if you have five different e-mail accounts, you can submit those! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: (exotica) record collecting sob story Date: 31 Dec 2000 11:38:17 -0800 here is something new. rather than a list of recent finds, how about the other side of the coin - records you had in your hot, little hands and let them get away, for whatever reason. last week, I experienced my all-time, hall-of-shame record collecting blunder and here it is... It's Saturday, December 23, about 4pm. I go to Village Music in Mill Valley (CA) to do a "scouting report" for the day after Xmas 50% off sale. I look around and jot down whatever looks interesting. Then on Tuesday, I show up before the doors open with my little note pad, ready to hit my spots. with me so far? I'm in the E's of the Pop / Nostalgia section and started flipping thru Les Elgart records. Not sure why, I certainly did not expect to find "Impressions From Outer Space" (Brunswick) a rare 10 incher with a cover to die for. BUT I DID!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pretty good shape, too (VG) and a steal at $20. I'm not quite sure what happened next - I was in some kind of blackened vinyl fog - because wrote it down on my list, put it back, then walked away. I guess saving that ten bucks was more important than picking up a record that who knows when will come around again and if it does, chances are it won't be twenty bucks. Even if it turned out to be lame, I could have easily recoved my money AND seen a nice profit by selling it on ebay. Two days later... I'm right there when the doors open. First thing, I dash to Les Elgart to get "my record" and, of course, it's gone. Then I spend alot more that $20 on so-so stuff just to cheer myself up. what a numbskull. I see Mickey McGowan making his rounds and shared my heartbreaking story with him. Turns out he did his own scouting report the day after I did and decided saving $10 was not worth the risk of not gittin' it. So he got it. Git it? I felt about an inch tall the rest of the day.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) record collecting sob story Date: 31 Dec 2000 17:33:15 -0500 At 11:38 AM 12/31/00 -0800, Basic Hip wrote: Thank you for sharing your shame. Once more my favourite record-collecting rule rears its ugly head. "You don't regret what you buy; you regret what you DON'T buy". But don't feel so bad. It's just a record. You have lots of records. Here's the other thing. It seems to me that you were attracted to the record because it was neat and rare and collectible and you could make money on it. Well it seems to me that you're not driven by those considerations. I dabble in that mindset sometimes myself but I think it requires a whole other way of looking at the world and at records, if you want to be someone who's trying to make money on them. Under normal circumstances you would have picked up that record But this was a fifty percent off sale, a moment in time in which records are sold at a price that approaches the price they SHOULD ALWAYS be sold for. It's understandable how those rare moments can cloud your mind. I went to a fifty percent off vinyl sale and my mind was also clouded but in the other direction. I bought things for two bucks that I wouldn't have bought for four bucks. But if you wouldn't buy something for four bucks, maybe that's something you shouldn't buy. Worse still, I buy things on ebay all the time only because they seem cheap "by ebay standards". In other words, if I think "Oh this will probably go for 25 bucks" and I can get it for 8 bucks, I grab it. But the thing is, all my standards for what a record should cost are in Canadian dollars. For me, 20 dollars is about the most I'll spend on an LP and I try to do that only a couple of times a year. At least that was true before ebay. A record which I win for eight dollars on ebay will cost me, with shipping, about 28 dollars Canadian. Even something I "win" for three dollars, which seems like nothing, costs me about twenty dollars Canadian. (It's not that the exchange is THAT bad but it's also that you start by adding five dollars for shipping and then a few dollars for the money order itself....) So I've bought about 35 records on ebay in the last four months. Probably the cheapest one was about twenty dollars CANADIAN. And a few of them were twenty dollars American which ended up being more like fifty dollars Canadian. I would NEVER buy a record for fifty bucks if it was on the shelf at a store here. But I definitely wouldn't do it for the records that I actually bought for that much on ebay. So don't be ashamed. If anyone's going to be ashamed, it'll be me. >last week, I experienced my all-time, hall-of-shame record collecting >blunder and here it is... >I see Mickey McGowan making his rounds and shared my heartbreaking story >with him. Turns out he did his own scouting report the day after I did and >decided saving $10 was not worth the risk of not gittin' it. So he got it. >Git it? > >I felt about an inch tall the rest of the day.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) record collecting sob story Date: 31 Dec 2000 19:00:21 EST In a message dated 12/31/0 5:33:46 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >I would NEVER buy a record for fifty bucks if it was on the shelf at a >store here. But I definitely wouldn't do it for the records that I >actually bought for that much on ebay. >So don't be ashamed. If anyone's going to be ashamed, it'll be me. Its interesting, the standards we apply to ourselves when it comes to buying records. I made a decision about 2 years ago to splurge on only one thing in my life......Besides my 2 kids, that is.. Records. If I want it and can get it, I'll buy it. I really don't care how much it is. Its amazing to me that someone would go to all the trouble to sell a record on e-bay for $4.00 american. If I sold a record on ebay I'd want $100 for it. I refuse to do e-bay because I don't want to chance losing something I might have gotten if I didn't have to play the stupid bidding game. I'd rather pay the price. Just like I'd rather pay a mechanic to fix my car. I don't want the record dangled before me to jump for it along side a hundred other bidders. Its a form of gambling to me and I don't gamble. If I walk into a record store in NYC and there's a copy of the original 45 of the Ribbons singing "Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya" priced at $75....ba-da-boom, ba-da-bing...its mine. Its only money and like a good friend of mine sez: "Hey Jimmy when I die, I don't wanna die a millionaire..I wanna die owing a million." JB/My best to everyone here on this New Year # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) record collecting sob story Date: 31 Dec 2000 16:55:29 -0800 >>Its interesting, the standards we apply to ourselves when it comes to buying records. << You can say that again! I am so inconsistent with my buying that only when I take a good, hard look at myself, do I realize how screwed up I am. :) For example, had that "Impressions from Outer Space" record been on ebay or another online source or at a record swap for twice as much as the $20 I balked on, I probably would have cheerfully forked over the $$$. Another example: I bid on a record and was outbid. A few days later, a person emailed me saying that they had a sealed copy of that record for a few bucks more. This time, I had to think twice about it. I must not be alone. I've lost count of the times I've seen heavy ebay bidding on a particular record while at the same time, the exact same record sits with no bids. Do you CD people suffer from the same disorders? Have a safe and happy new year # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Freida Pushnik, Al Gross, Julius Epstein, Date: 31 Dec 2000 20:23:31 -0500 COSTA MESA, Calif. (AP) - Frieda Pushnik, ``the Armless, Legless Girl Wonder'' who spent years touring with Ripley's Believe It or Not and Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus, died Dec. 24 after a battle with bladder cancer. She was 77. Born Feb. 10, 1923, in Conemaugh, Pa., Pushnik lost her limbs as the result of surgical complications during an appendectomy on her pregnant mother. Newspaper cartoonist Robert Ripley offered the girl a job at his first show at the 1933 World's Fair in Chicago. Ripley's ``odditorium'' was the attraction most heavily attended by the fair's 2 million visitors, said Edward Meyer, archivist at the Ripley headquarters in Orlando, Fla. In 1943, Pushnik was hired by Ringling Bros. for its sideshow tent, where she kept company with the Bearded Lady, two eight-foot giants and others. Pushnik always maintained she enjoyed the circus life and didn't feel exploited, but most states finally outlawed what came to be known pejoratively as freak shows. The circus closed its sideshow tent in June 1956, and Pushnik faded from the spotlight. === Al Gross - ham radio call sign W8PAL - died four days before this past Xmas. His first invention in 1938 was a portable hand-held radio transmitter-receiver he called the walkie-talkie. That led to the US Office of Strategic Services (OSS - the CIA's predecessor) utilizing his abilities which led to the invention of a two-way air-to-ground communications system used by the military behind enemy lines during the World War II "Cartoonist Chester Gould asked if he could use Gross' concept of a miniaturized two-way radio in his Dick Tracy comic strip. The result was the Dick Tracy two-way wrist radio. "'If you have a cordless telephone or a cellular telephone or a walkie talkie or beeper, you've got one of my patents,'Gross once said. He added that if his patents on those technologies hadn't run out in 1971, he'd have been a millionaire several times over. === http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?p=avg&sql=B89052 LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Screenwriter Julius Epstein, who co-wrote the screenplay for one of cinema's classics, ''Casablanca,'' died on Saturday at age 91, hospital officials said on Sunday. A highly visible and well-respected figured in the Hollywood writing community, Epstein died on Saturday morning at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center and is survived by his son, James, his wife, Ann, and daughter Elizabeth Schwartz. The Oscar-winning writer was born the son of a livery stable owner on Manhattan's Lower East Side on Aug. 22, 1909. Epstein turned out 50 produced screenplays, both with his twin brother, Philip, who died in 1952, and by himself during a career that spanned 60 years. ``Casablanca'' brought the brothers and Howard Koch a shared Oscar for the screenplay. The 1942 Humphrey Bogart-Ingrid Bergman romantic drama also won the Oscar for best picture. Epstein, revered for his wit, later commented that the screenplay contained ``a great deal of corn, more corn than in the states of Kansas and Iowa combined. But when corn works, there's nothing better.'' Casablanca has achieved cult status due largely to the Epsteins' unforgettable dialogue, which includes such gems as ''Here's looking at you, kid,'' ``We'll always have Paris,'' and ''Round up the usual suspects.'' Epstein was a boxer in college and originally planned to be a sportswriter, but had trouble finding work after his graduation in 1931 in the midst of the Depression. He came to Los Angeles in 1933 to ghostwrite a script and by 1935 was placed under contract with Warner Bros. The Epstein brothers were very much in demand in the years preceding World War II, and ``Casablanca'' came out of one of their typical writing assignments for the studio. They were asked to write a script based on an unproduced play called ''Everybody Comes to Rick's.'' The making of the movie, considered by movie buffs to be one of the finest films ever made, was subject to the same chaotic conditions of other movies made under the studio system, according to Aljean Harmetz, who wrote about the film in her book ``Round Up The Usual Suspects.'' ``Movies made under the studio system were accumulations of accidents, and Casablanca was no exception,'' she wrote in her book. ``A classic movie is the biggest accident of all,'' she added. Despite their success, the brothers' tenure was tumultuous at Warner Bros. and Epstein frequently disparaged ``Casablanca'' and most of the films he wrote during his 17-year stint there. During the 1940s and 1950s when government investigators were trying to root out alleged communists in Hollywood, Epstein, a critic of communism, was asked if ever belonged to a subversive organization. ``Yes,'' he replied. ``Warner Bros.'' His other film credits include ``The Strawberry Blonde'' The Man Who Came to Dinner,'' ``Four Daughters,'' and ``Pete 'n' Tillie.'' == ===== Sad end for a rising star 21.12.2000 By TONY WALL (New Zealand Herald) Garreth MacFadyen was an over-achiever. Last week, the young gun was promoted to an overseas position with sharebroking firm Merrill Lynch that his bosses told him would normally have been filled by someone at least 15 years his senior. So the 24-year-old had good reason to party when the firm's (Hawaiian theme) staff Christmas function was held at Quay West Hotel on Friday night. But the party ended in tragedy, and three days later the promising young futures trader was dead. His Hawaiian grass skirt was allegedly set alight in the men's toilets of the hotel's fifth-floor function centre. Manslaughter charge after death at Christmas party (New Zealand Herald) 22.12.2000 12:15 PM Fresh charges of manslaughter and disfigurement have been laid against the man who allegedly set fire to Gareth MacFadyen's grass skirt at the Merrill Lynch office Christmas party last week. Name suppression for Matthew Paul Schofield, aged 26, of Takapuna was lifted this morning in the Auckland District Court when new charges were laid against the investment banker following Mr MacFadyen's death last Monday. Defence lawyer Stuart Grieve QC told Judge Stan Thorburn that the incident had been a practical joke which had "gone terribly terribly wrong." Mr MacFadyen and Angela Offwood had been in a men's toilet cubicle wearing grass skirts when Schofield had allegedly lent under the cubicle and set fire to one of to skirts with a cigarette lighter. === ISLAMABAD, Dec 23 (Reuters) - Pakistan's top woman singer, "Melody Queen" Noor Jehan, died in the port city of Karachi on Saturday at the age of 72, family sources said. Jehan, who started as an actress and singer before the independence of Pakistan and India from Britain in 1947, was a contemporary of living Indian superstars like actor Dilip Kumar and female singer Lata Mangeshker. Equally popular in India, Noor Jehan shot to fame because of her singing and won the Pakistani title of Melody Queen in the 1970s. She also won popularity in Pakistan for singing martial songs during the country's 1965 and 1971 wars with India. She was considered one of the top singers of the sub-continent and was sometimes referred to as the Umm Kalthoum of the region after the legendary singer of Egypt. The official APP news agency reported Noor Jehan died in the afternoon of heart failure. She will be buried in Karachi, it said. 08:04 12-23-00 Melody Queen Noor Jahan passes away The Hindu Karachi, Dec. 23 (DPA) - Noor Jahan, an actress and singer known as the Melody Queen, has died in Karachi after a protracted illness, hospital and family sources said today. Noor Jahan, 74, started her career at the age of five, when she performed on stage in Calcutta. She became the subcontinent's first female child star at the age of nine when she acted in a Punjabi language film in Lahore (Pakistan). Later, she abandoned acting and concentrated on singing. ''She was an institution and with her death a reign covering almost three-quarters of a century ended,'' one of her many fans said. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Carlson Subject: (exotica) 2001 Date: 01 Jan 2000 00:46:40 -0500 To all, It's 17 degrees and I'm workin' the bar-b-que. Italian sausage, teriyakai chicken and Henry Mancini! Happy real millenium to you all! Craig List member since '95 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.