From: exotica-owner@xmission.com To: exotica-digest@xmission.com Subject: exotica Digest V2 #14 Reply-To: exotica@xmission.com Errors-To: exotica-owner@xmission.com Precedence: exotica Digest Thursday, 11 July 1996 Volume 02 : Number 014 In this issue: [none] [none] Re: sergio mendes and dmitri Future Trends Future Trends Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon 78S? Re: sergio mendes and dmitri Re: sergio mendes and dmitri Re: Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissveltand Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon Re: Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon Re: 78S & where to play 'em! 78 players Re: 78S? HONEYMOON POLL, THANK YOU! LA lounge scene? others? Re[2]: 78S? Re: 78S? Re: LA lounge scene? others? Re: HONEYMOON POLL See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the exotica or exotica-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@boston.wgl.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:36:23 -0400 Subject: [none] Laurie Chase wrote: You are definately on to something, Jon. I collect 78 rpm records, and the big items are now hillbilly/C&W. The songs are fingersnapping and funny, and downright melodic. Of course, I am not talking about the new C&W crap you hear on commercial radio, I am talking about Hank Williams Sr., Marty Robbins, Rose Maddox & the Maddox Brothers, Little Jimmy Dickens,T. Texas Tyler, Jimmy Rogers, Buck Owens, Tennesee Ernie Ford, even Les Paul and Mary Ford (who have a great Hawaiian album called LOVER'S LUAU, too). End Quote Yes! I just scored a few hundred 78's from an attic in Maine. Still in boxes from the Jukebox distributor. I've long been a fan of C&W/String Band from the 20's-50's. It's really hard to convince folks that it's _not_ Billy Ray-type stuff. Among the sides I've cleaned and listened to so far: Homer & Jethro How Much is that Hound Dog in the Window/Koo-Liger Great parody record from this duo with outstanding mandolin playing. T.Texas Tyler Courtin' in the Rain/ (can't remember right now) How did I miss this guy for so long? Courtin' is a swingin' C&W side that I absolutely can't get out of my head. Not really exotica, per se, but swell music, nonetheless. Craig Groveland, MA craig_carlson@wgl.com ------------------------------ From: ccarlson@boston.wgl.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:58:01 -0400 Subject: [none] Gene Hopstetter wrote: ...and Culpepper's Orchard and White Noise and Comus and Fifty Foot Hose...my point is, collecting psyche has been popular for quite a while. Heck,I myself have been doing it since 1986. Sorry, but I don't think psyche collecting's gonna get any bigger. Too bad, though, because the major labels got tons of acetate I'd love to see reissued by them, and not by tiny reissue labels, who charge $20 to $40 a pop, but hey, if you want it, you pay for it, no? Craig writes: I guess this is a plug (unsolicited), but find the Arf! Arf! and/or Stanton Park web site and get their catalogue, nice folks, good prices, excellent service. They specialize in psyche/gagrage and beyond. Gene Hopstetter wrote: Yup. I wouldn't give up my copy of Morton Downey, Jr.'s "I Love America" and my Lenny and the Squigtones album for nothing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Craig writes: There's your next trend. As TV saturates the living experience of our young more and more, their strongest feelings of nostalgia and innocence will be connected to the TV shows of their youth. All you need to do is follow the birth rates, and project 10 years ahead to find your market for nostalgia. Was there a birth rate spike in 1978? Then TV-related stuff from ca. 1988 has potential. At least that's my take on it. I'm saving cereal boxes with TV tie-ins, but TV-themed records seem like a good bet. Craig Groveland, MA craig_carlson@wgl.com ------------------------------ From: cremieux@mbinter.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:35:16 +0000 Subject: Re: sergio mendes and dmitri Dimitri is a DJ from Paris ( nothing to do with DeeLite).....his album "sacrebleu" is on Yellow records....he also got a tune on the sourcelab #2 compil....I heard from friends in Paris ...he has a radio show on Radio Nova.. peace - -- http://mbinter.com cojax747@interport.net ------------------------------ From: ccarlson@boston.wgl.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:46:34 -0400 Subject: Future Trends Laurie Chase wrote: You are definately on to something, Jon. I collect 78 rpm records, and the big items are now hillbilly/C&W. The songs are fingersnapping and funny, and downright melodic. Of course, I am not talking about the new C&W crap you hear on commercial radio, I am talking about Hank Williams Sr., Marty Robbins, Rose Maddox & the Maddox Brothers, Little Jimmy Dickens,T. Texas Tyler, Jimmy Rogers, Buck Owens, Tennesee Ernie Ford, even Les Paul and Mary Ford (who have a great Hawaiian album called LOVER'S LUAU, too). End Quote Yes! I just scored a few hundred 78's from an attic in Maine. Still in boxes from the Jukebox distributor. I've long been a fan of C&W/String Band from the 20's-50's. It's really hard to convince folks that it's _not_ Billy Ray-type stuff. Among the sides I've cleaned and listened to so far: Homer & Jethro How Much is that Hound Dog in the Window/Koo-Liger Great parody record from this duo with outstanding mandolin playing. T.Texas Tyler Courtin' in the Rain/ (can't remember right now) How did I miss this guy for so long? Courtin' is a swingin' C&W side that I absolutely can't get out of my head. Not really exotica, per se, but swell music, nonetheless. Craig Groveland, MA craig_carlson@wgl.com PS: My apologies if this was posted twice. By Lazlo's note, though, I think my e-mail address needed to be corrected, so I tried re-sending with my current address. ------------------------------ From: ccarlson@boston.wgl.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:43:50 -0400 Subject: Future Trends Gene Hopstetter wrote: ...and Culpepper's Orchard and White Noise and Comus and Fifty Foot Hose...my point is, collecting psyche has been popular for quite a while. Heck,I myself have been doing it since 1986. Sorry, but I don't think psyche collecting's gonna get any bigger. Too bad, though, because the major labels got tons of acetate I'd love to see reissued by them, and not by tiny reissue labels, who charge $20 to $40 a pop, but hey, if you want it, you pay for it, no? Craig writes: I guess this is a plug (unsolicited), but find the Arf! Arf! and/or Stanton Park web site and get their catalogue, nice folks, good prices, excellent service. They specialize in psyche/gagrage and beyond. Gene Hopstetter wrote: Yup. I wouldn't give up my copy of Morton Downey, Jr.'s "I Love America" and my Lenny and the Squigtones album for nothing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Craig writes: There's your next trend. As TV saturates the living experience of our young more and more, their strongest feelings of nostalgia and innocence will be connected to the TV shows of their youth. All you need to do is follow the birth rates, and project 10 years ahead to find your market for nostalgia. Was there a birth rate spike in 1978? Then TV-related stuff from ca. 1988 has potential. At least that's my take on it. I'm saving cereal boxes with TV tie-ins, but TV-themed records seem like a good bet. Craig Groveland, MA craig_carlson@wgl.com PS: My apologies if this was posted twice. By Lazlo's note, though, I think my e-mail address needed to be corrected, so I tried re-sending with my current address. ------------------------------ From: jpmckay@cyborganic.net (Paul McKay) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:59:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 Ye-Me-Le (A&M SP 4236) is by Brasil 66 but it really isn't in the same league as their earlier recordings. It just doesn't have that Brasil 66 sound. Most of it I wouldn't recognize as Brasil 66 if I were to hear it without knowing. Ciao, Paul jpmckay@cyborganic.net >Is it Ye-Me-Le? Or is that a later release. I remember seeing this >more than once in thrifts, never picked it up. But if I remember >correctly, it's by SM & Brazil '66. > > >kevin king >xanadu@radix.net >http://www.radix.net/~xanadu ------------------------------ From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:38:58 +0000 Subject: Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon Hello all ;) I just donated a copy of this amazing record to KFJC-FM. They are gonna play the shit outta it!!! It was also released on Phillips called The Elektrosonics-Electronic Music It is sooooooooooo wonderful. Anyone else have it/heard it ? "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under its influence including myself, to irrational, compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 Jack Diamond ------------------------------ From: "Laura Taylor" Date: 11 Jul 1996 12:45:13 -0400 Subject: 78S? OK---first I must vent by saying I am sick of the future trend thread...But "ya'll" are obviously digging it, so I won't be a jerk...However, something has arisen that is useful to me, and that is the 78s discussion...Where would you exoti-cat/kits recommend that I get a working 78 player? Are they reasonable? I know that several old turn-tables have a 78 speed, but that you need a special large stylus...Where are those found? Also, who is the woman singing on parts of JUNGLE JAZZ? You can reply to me individually at: laura@wusf.usf.edu p-s...Stefan and Jill-I mailed your tapes Monday, so they're flying overseas as we speak. ------------------------------ From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:13:49 -0400 Subject: Re: sergio mendes and dmitri jordana robinson (jbr109@psu.edu) wrote: >This Dmitri in Paris thing: is this a new album or a reissue. Is it the >Dmitri from Deee-Lite? It's a new album, from Yellow Productions in Paris {catalog #: YPO 11A}. It's available as double LP or CD (w/2 extra tracks). I think the album is great : lots and lots of samples from exotica/EZ LP's (it was only a matter of time......including Esquivel, J.Barry, "B at Tiffany's", Sound Gallery, How to Speak Hip) and film dialogue mixed up with lots of Trip Hop and bossa nova. Great cover version of Mancini's "Nothing To Lose" [from "the Party"]. And the cover itself jumped at me off the rack when I saw it. It's a take on the Living Stereo logo ("Yellow Stereo"), and states it's in "Spectra-Q-Lar Electrosonics". When I asked the clerk (at Soho Jazz & Soul in London) what it was, he said "Easy listening Trip Hop" and played some for me. If you really hate dance music, don't even think about this. If you like Pizzacato 5, Towa Tei, The Gentle People, or the Dutch Easy Tune sound on the various "Drive-In" compilations, by all means get this. And he plays stylophone on it. And it isn't Dimitri from Dee-Lite, unless the back cover photo is a fake. [Dimitri also has 2 tracks on the soundtrack "LA Yellow 357", including a great faux movie trailer for a spy film] br cleve ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:23:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: sergio mendes and dmitri >This Dmitri in Paris thing: is this a new album or a reissue. Is it the >Dmitri from Deee-Lite? > >Jordana, It is a new LP and it is NOT Super DJ Dimitry from Deee-Lite. It is also not Dimitri from Amsterdam, who is a top international DJ. It is Dimitri from Paris, which is why he calls himself Dimitri from Paris. There are just too damn many Dimitris! Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissveltand Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon Yes, I have heard it, Jack. It is TOM DISSEVELT, yes? A friend of mine (PEOPLE LIKE US), Vicki Bennett has it. And it is wonderful. By the way, check out PEOPLE LIKE US. There are a few CDs including "Beware the Whim Reaper" on Staalplaat. It is warped and treated easy stuff and sonic ambience. Really fascinating and quite a good listen. A bit odd. Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ From: sax therapy Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:39:19 -0600 Subject: Re: Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon Jack Diamond wrote: > > Hello all ;) > > I just donated a copy of this amazing record to KFJC-FM. > They are gonna play the shit outta it!!! > It was also released on Phillips called The Elektrosonics-Electronic Music > > It is sooooooooooo wonderful. Anyone else have it/heard it ? > oh yes, I used to play a lot of that on my radio show in the 70's. I had the domestic issue on Limelight whcich by the way was an excellent label. Just about anything on Limelight was way out there. Some of my faves include 50 Foot Hose, Don Robertson, Pierre Henry "Variations for a Door and a Sight", Roland Kirk, Ruth White........ - -- :| :| <::< .::\ \:/ :::| :::| :~~/ :::| .::\ :::\ :\:| >::> `::| /:\ :| :|:| :::, :| `::| :::/ `::| saul smaizys/saxmania@ripco.com :| .,:' .........................web page=http://pages.ripco.com/~saxmania .............................voice (312)907.8229 fax (312)907.8521 - -- ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:46:09 PST Subject: Re: 78S & where to play 'em! Search out old Voice Of Music consoles & portables. Most of 'em still work! We've got two of those at home (recently got one at an estate sale for $5.00), and an old Magnovox stand up (that we got at a church sale for $35.00) that is in the Dionysus office. There is a Voice Of Music newsletter you should subscribe to: V-M Collector's Voice Newsletter c/o Gary Stork, 37530 E. Meadowhill, Northville, MI 48167-8915. $4.00 for a year! If you wanna play 78's on your regular stereo, Sure makes styli for those. You can interchange them with your regular stylus on some Sure carts. Just call your local audiofreak store & ask, or pick up one of those stereo mags, they usually have ads in the back for stylus & cart specialty stores. Spinning round & round.... Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 78S? Author: exotica@xmission.com at INTERNET Date: 7/11/96 10:29 AM OK---first I must vent by saying I am sick of the future trend thread...But "ya'll" are obviously digging it, so I won't be a jerk...However, something has arisen that is useful to me, and that is the 78s discussion...Where would you exoti-cat/kits recommend that I get a working 78 player? Are they reasonable? I know that several old turn-tables have a 78 speed, but that you need a special large stylus...Where are those found? Also, who is the woman singing on parts of JUNGLE JAZZ? You can reply to me individually at: laura@wusf.usf.edu p-s...Stefan and Jill-I mailed your tapes Monday, so they're flying overseas as we speak. ------------------------------ From: sax therapy Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:56:42 -0600 Subject: 78 players Laura Taylor wrote: > > OK---first I must vent by saying I am sick of the future trend thread...But > "ya'll" are obviously digging it, so I won't be a jerk...However, something > has arisen that is useful to me, and that is the 78s discussion...Where would > you exoti-cat/kits recommend that I get a working 78 player? Are they > reasonable? I know that several old turn-tables have a 78 speed, but hit the thrifts and try to find a 1950's Webcor or RCA table model player, usually wood or plastic cabinet with a lid. I've found that the amps and speakers in these boxes give me the best sound for 78's. These will have a flip over cartridge for LP's and 78's. I've had some that had output jacks for recording. My favorite is the Califone Director 12V-9. Califone made a lot of players that were found in most school a/v departments. The low end models are quite sturdy and play all 4 speeds and have the lip over cartridge. The Director is a real nice machine and is it the high end of their line. It has a continuosly variable speed control, strobe, stereo flip-over cartridge, output for extra channel, hefty 12" speaker in the lid, seperate bass and treble pots, microphone input with seperate volume control, 6L6 tubes.. BTW an electric guitar plugged into this machine sounds great! If you ever see one of these pick it up in any condition cause it's well worth restoring.......Saul :| :| <::< .::\ \:/ :::| :::| :~~/ :::| .::\ :::\ :\:| >::> `::| /:\ :| :|:| :::, :| `::| :::/ `::| saul smaizys/saxmania@ripco.com :| .,:' .........................web page=http://pages.ripco.com/~saxmania .............................voice (312)907.8229 fax (312)907.8521 - -- ------------------------------ From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 15:59:24 EDT Subject: Re: 78S? i wish i worked for russ meyer. i wish i worked for oscar meyer. this place blows. ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 13:04:47 PST Subject: HONEYMOON POLL, THANK YOU! Hey gang, Thanks for all the responses to our honeymoon poll. At this point, it is leaning more towards two weeks of thrifting! I am fortunate to be in a relationship with a beautiful person who appreciates the same aesthetics I do. Aime loves tiki culture, 40s & 50s furniture, is a collector of Bakelite and loves records, especially 78s and kids pic discs from the 50s. Pretty cool for a 25 year old who just as easily could've been into Pearl Jam & Gen X coffee houses! Pssst: one of her biggest wants is the bakelite "Alice In Wonderland" or "Snow White" RCA 45rpm player. If any of you know where I could score one of these at a decent price, let me know! Lee ------------------------------ From: "kevin s. lee" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:12:33 EST Subject: LA lounge scene? others? aloha, i'm movin' to LA soon and want to immediately check out every Tiki/Exotica/Lounge thing/place to check out. can anyone help or direct me to help? Say, has anyone compiled or tried to compile current lounge scenes (cool bars, cafe's, hangouts, even record stores, etc.?) across the u.s.? perhaps some web pages with this info? zines? i haven't checked the exotica FAQ yet, and i've been off the list for awhile so forgive me if this has been covered. someone was telling me about this cool as hell james bond type bar in milwaukee ( i believe). it sounded amazing. you need a passport to get past the receptionist... if you don't have one you need to become a spy and do what they tell you to do, like dance like a chicken or something stupid. they let you in thru this hidden door or something and you find out that you had a camera on you the whole time and everyone in the bar could see you. of course, there's all these secret passageways and all sorts of britannia paraphenalia around. i have a hard time believing all this, but it sounds cool anyway. all i can say is, thanks to mr. evolution control committee, mark gunderson, i had the honor and pleasure of hanging out at The Kahiki restaurant in Columbus, OH. tikis galore, plus all the nautical, tropical, south seas stuff you could imagine. amazing. where i live, Ann Arbor, and probably all of michigan, there is NOTHING cool and swanky. we had to resort to going to Major Magic's All Star Pizza Revue for some fucking bizarre as hell animatronic lounge acts. and i mean bizarre... can anyone report on any exotic places in detroit or thereabouts? kevin lee > lee@anti.com wrote: > > > > While not a tiki bar, The Galley is a fine nautical/south seas > > restaurant/bar in Santa Monica, || | ||| | | || | ||| | || | || |||| | | || anonymous productions anon@scribble.com http://kzsu.stanford.edu/uwi/endtimes || | ||| | | || | ||| | || | || |||| | | || ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 13:55:57 PST Subject: Re[2]: 78S? On 7/11/97 some moron wrote: >>i wish i worked for russ meyer. >>i wish i worked for oscar meyer. >>this place blows. A very confused person into hot dogs and boobs. What a weiner! ------------------------------ From: "Laura Taylor" Date: 11 Jul 1996 17:12:38 -0400 Subject: Re: 78S? RE>>78S? 7/11/96 Is that you, patrick? lounge laura - -------------------------------------- Date: 7/11/96 5:11 PM To: Laura Taylor From: exotica@xmission.com i wish i worked for russ meyer. i wish i worked for oscar meyer. this place blows. ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:25:56 PST Subject: Re: LA lounge scene? others? aloha, i'm movin' to LA soon and want to immediately check out every Tiki/Exotica/Lounge thing/place to check out. can anyone help or direct me to help? GLENDALE: Damons on Brand Ave ROSEMEAD: Bahooka on Rosmead Blvd. HOLLYWOOD: Lava Lounge on La Brea (the only place on this list where you will find a 'lounge scene scenario' as the rest are just cool places to go with freinds) Tiki Ti on Sunset Blvd. NORTH HOLLYWOOD - VAN NUYS Tonga Hut on Victory Blvd (divy neighborhood place, but quite fun for a visit!) SANTA MONICA: The Galley on Main St. Chez Jay's on PCH Have a blast, bring a sober driver!!! ------------------------------ From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:31:19 PDT Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL Ashley writes: >Head further east to Ft Lauderdale to check out the Mai Kai restaurant - it >outdoes Disney's Adventureland! While you are on the West Coast of Florida >check out the fabulous Tiki Gardens at Indian Rock Beach. YOW! This place still exists! I aquired an old Viewmaster packet of the Tiki Gardens not long ago, and I figured it looked too good to be true for it to have survived. Really gotta find an excuse to make it to FL now that I know it's still there... Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com ------------------------------ End of exotica Digest V2 #14 **************************** To subscribe to exotica Digest, send the command: subscribe exotica-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-exotica": subscribe exotica-digest local-exotica@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "exotica-digest" in the commands above with "exotica". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/exotica/archive. These are organized by date.